Diet....contest?
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thibodeaux
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Resting energy expenditure in short-term starvation is increased as a result of an increase in serum norepinephrineLeisher wrote:I cannot remember the source, I think it was a network morning news show, but the whole eating all day thing was confirmed to help your metabolism. I remember it not being "the key" or end all be all of dieting, but it was proven to have some effect.
I may be completely wrong, but I swear I just saw something about that. The reason it's in my head is because I came up with this eat every two hours thing on my own 2 years ago when I lost 30 pounds in 30 days doing this diet and Wii Fit. I remember thinking the report was validation of my methods.
Your metabolic rate INCREASES with fasting.
It has been along time since I read the Adkins book. Part of what I remember about grains was if you grind it very small there is something in the body that can't process it right. If you have to eat bread whole grain bread.thibodeaux wrote:Yes, it's the entirety of RECORDED human history, but anatomically modern humans have been around 200k years. And yes, agriculture is what made civilization, but if you look at the bones of the people that adopted it, vs. the bones of their contemporaneous hunter-gatherer neighbors, the farmers were smaller and sicker.GORDON wrote:Civilization first rose in Mesopotamia approx 10k years ago with the advent of agriculture, when one person could then feed two, leaving one person free to do something besides gathering food all day. I always assumed they were farming grains, though I guess I don't know for certain right at this moment.
Civilization in China was certainly founded on millet... as far as what my Ancient Civ prof told me 20 years ago.
SO..... geologically and evolutionarily speaking, 10k years ago is a blink, but it is the entirety of human history, strictly speaking.
Can people eat grains and survive, even flourish? Of course; it's obvious. Should YOU eat grains? No, not if you want to be the healthiest you can be.
Wonder if that parallels sugar. 150 years ago the amount of sugar you would eat a year might be a cup if you had money enough to buy it. Now it is a cup or two a week. Funny how much more diabetes we have now than then.
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thibodeaux
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But you never HAVE to eat bread! Even the whole grains are unhealthy.unkbill wrote:It has been along time since I read the Adkins book. Part of what I remember about grains was if you grind it very small there is something in the body that can't process it right. If you have to eat bread whole grain bread.
Wonder if that parallels sugar. 150 years ago the amount of sugar you would eat a year might be a cup if you had money enough to buy it. Now it is a cup or two a week. Funny how much more diabetes we have now than then.
As for sugar and diabetes: absolutely!
Your metabolic rate INCREASES with fasting.
That doesn't disprove that it can also increase with multiple small snacks.
Still, you've had some good answers thus far. I think I'm sold enough to give it a shot. What the hell. Three months should be plenty of time to see how well it works.
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As far as I am concerned sugar is a poison. During the holidays and I am weak and eat candy it taste so good but later I feel so much like shit. If we put holidays closer together I might be able to remember this.thibodeaux wrote:But you never HAVE to eat bread! Even the whole grains are unhealthy.unkbill wrote:It has been along time since I read the Adkins book. Part of what I remember about grains was if you grind it very small there is something in the body that can't process it right. If you have to eat bread whole grain bread.
Wonder if that parallels sugar. 150 years ago the amount of sugar you would eat a year might be a cup if you had money enough to buy it. Now it is a cup or two a week. Funny how much more diabetes we have now than then.
As for sugar and diabetes: absolutely!
As for grain. Have to have my piece of toast with my eggs in the morning and I do like the occasional sandwich.
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
Hit a brick wall as far as weight loss goes and can't emass enough facts to decide how to handle it.
Things I know. This week I started my regiment of walking and lifting weights. I was doing some before but now it is on a schedule. I count my calories as close as possible. I eat around 2000 or less. Most of what I have read I could eat up to 2700 and still lose weight.
Things I don't know. If my calorie count is correct is a 700 calorie defficit to much and could make my body hit survival mode. I don't see my exercise putting on that much muscle this quick to nullify my weight lose.
Have done alot of reading but can't seem to nail down an answer.
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Things I know. This week I started my regiment of walking and lifting weights. I was doing some before but now it is on a schedule. I count my calories as close as possible. I eat around 2000 or less. Most of what I have read I could eat up to 2700 and still lose weight.
Things I don't know. If my calorie count is correct is a 700 calorie defficit to much and could make my body hit survival mode. I don't see my exercise putting on that much muscle this quick to nullify my weight lose.
Have done alot of reading but can't seem to nail down an answer.
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In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
Just thought of a varible I didn't mention from above. I started an anti-biotec last week. I was having some side effects so the doctor had me quit taking my vitamins. The magnesium and zinc screw up the drug. I try to eat balanced but I know better. I need a supliment you need proper diet to burn fat. Still don't know.
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In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
Ha Ha I guess the joke was on me. Thought I was doing well. Have been eating between 1800 and 2000 calories a day and I am not ever hungry. That is about 1000 cals less than I need to lose a pound a week. Have been doing alot of reading and I guess that many cals is like me going on a starvation diet. My body has stalled and gone into survival mode. I even gained a few pounds which is hard to take when I was doing the math and knew it was impossible.
Sticking to my daily walk but am going to raise the cals. Soemtimes I hate the holidays.
Sticking to my daily walk but am going to raise the cals. Soemtimes I hate the holidays.
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
How'd people do? I went back to eating around 2600 cals a day and have been losing weight. Pretty sure I should lose enough this week that if I gain some over new years I will still be down from x-mas. ie words less to lose back to be back to my low for the year.
Eating all those cals half fucks with my brain. When I was eating 1800 I didn't feel hungry at all. Now I feel like I am cheating or something.
Eating all those cals half fucks with my brain. When I was eating 1800 I didn't feel hungry at all. Now I feel like I am cheating or something.
In marriage there is always one person right. And the other one is the husband.
Yeah, starting before the holidays is always rough. You needed to wait until mid-January.
“Every record been destroyed or falsified, books rewritten, pictures repainted, statues, street building renamed, every date altered. The process is continuing day by day. History stops. Nothing exists except endless present in which the Party is right.”
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thibodeaux
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I've been taking in fewer calories than I have been burning. That's the big secret. Can't fail.
Down 12 pounds right now, and my appetite is growing smaller. Rarely ravenously hungry any more. Having an easier time ignoring the desire for a big snack at night.
My big problem is psychological. My brain equates eating with happiness, and I like my comfort food (I bet this is the major problem for 95% of overweight people). Have a cold right now and all I want to do is scarf down a pound of chicken wings, because that'll make me 'happy.'
Down 12 pounds right now, and my appetite is growing smaller. Rarely ravenously hungry any more. Having an easier time ignoring the desire for a big snack at night.
My big problem is psychological. My brain equates eating with happiness, and I like my comfort food (I bet this is the major problem for 95% of overweight people). Have a cold right now and all I want to do is scarf down a pound of chicken wings, because that'll make me 'happy.'
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