NCAA

What about... let them do what the fuck they want, and if they don't like their draft position, let them go back to college, since, you know, it's about education?

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:18 am

TheCatt wrote: What about... let them do what the fuck they want, and if they don't like their draft position, let them go back to college, since, you know, it's about education?

And let's give them all trophies for participating!

jk

Ok, there really is a flaw in what you're proposing. They already do that. Kids who contemplate entering the draft are allowed, and I believe the NCAA facilitates, an analysis showing them where they would be drafted. It's legit opinions from NBA GMs. So the kids know if they're considered a lottery pick, late first round, second round, etc.

That's why when you see two kids from Zona declaring right after they lost, it's shitty. I'm not certain, but I don't believe those evaluations happen until after the tournament. So for the one guy at the center of the Zona scandal, he makes sense. He's considered a lottery pick by the MSM, and no point in staying if the word about him taking money is true. The other kid that declared nobody talks about, so that was odd. It shows he didn't give a shit about the tournament and his team. He just wants to get paid. That's a character issue, and teams will make note of it.

FYI, there is word around Columbus that due to the upcoming NBA draft being so loaded, Bates-Diop might return for another season. Hooray!

Post by **TheCatt** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:51 am

Leisher wrote: Ok, there really is a flaw in what you're proposing. They already do that. Kids who contemplate entering the draft are allowed, and I believe the NCAA facilitates, an analysis showing them where they would be drafted.

No, they do not allow what I am saying. If they are a 2nd round draft pick, or even not drafted, or whatever, they can come back to college AFTER the draft.

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:09 pm

TheCatt wrote: If they are a 2nd round draft pick, or even not drafted, or whatever, they can come back to college AFTER the draft.

They would already be told that they'd probably be second round or not drafted. So...why leave school? And how would that system be fair to the NBA and the team that drafted them?

Oh, you took a big risk, burnt a bridge and it didn't work out? Tough shit. That's life. Welcome to reality. I don't see other kids getting free parachutes, why do the athletes deserve them?

If they want protection from being taken in the 2nd round or not being drafted they could...wait for it...stay in school and finish their education!

Post by **TheCatt** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:31 pm

Leisher wrote: And how would that system be fair to the NBA and the team that drafted them?

Alright, if they are not in the first two rounds. How about that?

Leisher wrote: If they want protection from being taken in the 2nd round or not being drafted they could...wait for it...stay in school and finish their education!

This is complete bullshit. If I go pro in software development, guess what, I CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:55 pm

Ya, but can you rejoin the amateur programming league sponsored by the school and does the school give you a scholarship?

They can go back too. They just can't play ball and they have to pay for their classes.

Post by **TheCatt** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:03 pm

Cakedaddy wrote: Ya, but can you rejoin the amateur programming league sponsored by the school and does the school give you a scholarship?

They can go back too. They just can't play ball and they have to pay for their classes.

Schools give academic scholarships. Doesn't prevent me from using my skills professionally.

Post by **TheCatt** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:27 pm

Loyola has now won 3 games by a total of 4 points.

Post by **Cakedaddy** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:44 pm

And if they qualify for an academic scholarship, I'm sure they can use it.

If you are smart, you get an academic scholarship. You provide value to the school, academically, or something. If you are good at ball, you provide value by playing on their team. If you can't play on their team through ineligibility, then you provide no value to them.

This comes down to them keeping their amateur status. If they give it up by trying to go pro, then they lose their scholarship. Not their ability to go to school.

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:00 pm

TheCatt wrote: Alright, if they are not in the first two rounds. How about that?

So not drafted...the NBA only has two rounds. Again, they get told by professionals where they can expect to be drafted. If you're a second rounder, you probably suck and should stay in school.

TheCatt wrote: This is complete bullshit. If I go pro in software development, guess what, I CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

No it's not. They are on scholarship and once they renounce it that scholarship opens up for a new kid to go to school for free. But fuck that person? Oh, and fuck the school who can't recruit someone to take your spot because they have to wait and see if you like where you get drafted?

Cakedaddy wrote: This comes down to them keeping their amateur status. If they give it up by trying to go pro, then they lose their scholarship. Not their ability to go to school.

Exactly.