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Pro tip: When facing the best fighter in the world, and possibly the best female fighter in history, don't talk smack about her family.
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"Don't Cry"

That article has a gif of Rhonda knocking the bitch out.
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Bethe Correia is still a dumb bitch.
I was extremely criticized and judged by lack of respect due to a bad interpretation of the current champ. All that time I saw the real face of the current champ trying to pose as a saint while she always said publicly that she wanted to make me “have a meeting with Jesus” which was her true intention. The media never gave that much coverage. I’d never would fight anyone with the intention to kill, break their neck which is something there’s no return from. I wouldn’t joke about it, because wanting to kill someone is not caring about the pain their family would feel!


No you wouldn't say anything like that in the heat of the moment because you have class, right? It's far more mature and nice to tell someone "don't commit suicide like your father did".

Bethe Correia = cunt.
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Lesnar on Rousey.
“I think she’s a super athlete in a weak division. I really do,” Lesnar said Tuesday on ESPN, as transcribed by Fox Sports. “She is a man amongst women in the women’s division. I take my hat off to her.”
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Rousey is not going to be fighting for a lot longer.

Sounds like this woman knows what she's doing. If she retires in 3-4 years with that undefeated record she'll be able to open doors and write checks using her "legend" status.
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Did anyone watch the Rousey-Holm fight?

How did she lose? Holm is a boxer with very little mat skills. All Rhonda had to do was slip in and take her down.

How the fuck did she end up getting knocked out in the second?

Dude at ESPN is implying the game plan from Rousey's camp was complete shit. Like they prepped her for the wrong fight.




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How the fuck did she end up getting knocked out in the second?

I'd check with her bookee or anyone she owed money to.
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The fight (skip the first 9 minutes):
http://weekendmma.blogspot.com.au/2015....93.html




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Is it too early to start calling her the female Buster Douglas?
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Malcolm wrote:Is it too early to start calling her the female Buster Douglas?
Someone on ESPN already did that last night.

If Rousey decides to come back, and not just retire, she'll tap Holm in the first round. Assuming she fires her trainer, which I think will happen once everyone points out what a terrible game plan he created.
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Turns out Holly's 10-0, with one split decision. Everything else was unanimous, TKO, or KO.
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Malcolm wrote:Turns out Holly's 10-0, with one split decision. Everything else was unanimous, TKO, or KO.
Knew that. The problem is that she's a boxer without stopping power. Yes, she's won by KOs, but they've all been late in the fights. She does not do well on the ground.

All Rhonda had to do was get her to the ground. Every shot I've seen of the fight is her standing toe to toe WITH A BOXER.

Like I said, the immediate reaction from the MMA world is "What the fuck was the game plan?"

At least when Tyson lost he had a good excuse. He was out drinking and boozing constantly before the fight because he didn't take his opponent seriously. Rhonda took Holm seriously, but had a terrible plan to fight her. Not sure if it was a pride thing "Let's beat her at her own game", but it was dumb.

Unless this was the greatest fix of all time...
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Not sure if it was a pride thing "Let's beat her at her own game", but it was dumb

I doubt it. Unless she really, really wanted to go out on top. But why? The only boxing strategy the average fan remembers is "rope-a-dope" and the W is what gets recorded.

Unless this was the greatest fix of all time...

I'm oscillating back and forth between this and the simple explanation of a pro having a shitty night.
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She might be a bit too full of pride, which is why I don't dismiss the "beat her at her own game thing". She's absolutely a fighter and I could see her trying to do something someone has told her she can't do.

Meanwhile, her mind has been out of fighting. Prior to the fight she tweeted she was taking time off after this fight. She's got lots of movie offers. She wants to go work for the WWE like Lesnar. Her personal life has been a distraction, including the days before the fight. Etc.

She's already tweeted that she'll be back, and Dana White has to be thrilled because the rematch will sell a ton, but if she does return I look for her to fight less than 5 more times before she quits for movies and pro wrestling.

And if she annihilates Holm in the rematch she can simply say, "I messed up last time. We had a terrible plan of trying to fight her on my feet. Not sure what we were thinking, but we've corrected it. If she wants a rematch, she'll get it, but I think that'll be my last fight, then I'll go have fake fights for more money."




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Leisher wrote:...if she does return I look for her to fight less than 5 more times before she quits for movies and pro wrestling.

I remember hearing her on a podcast (maybe Joe Rogan's) and she said that her time in the UFC is limited. She said it was all about time. I think she said that she had about 25 minutes worth of professional fight time, so she might do another ten minutes or so before moving on to better things.
She didn't like taking punishment in the ring, and saw MMA as stepping stone for her career.

I think she'll have two (maybe three) more fights.
There is too much money on the table to pass up a rematch with Holly Holm.
Holly Holm's people are going to put a stipulation in the rematches contract that if Holms loses she gets another shot at Rousey within a year.

I assume Rowsey wins the rematch, maybe she fights a straw man in between, then she fights Holms again as her last fight.






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Did you see former pro wrestler Taz grabbed headlines today by declaring the fight an obvious fix.

He was pointing out all the evidence in her recent interviews about wanting to take time off. He doesn't know who all knew, but he theorizes that she went into that fight wanting to lose.

I'd say he's batshit crazy if that game plan wasn't so unbelievably bad. It was the equivalent of getting into a gun fight and standing up and walking calmly towards your enemy with your gun at your side instead of taking cover in a firing position.
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Evidence he might be onto something:

1) As has been pointed out, the planning was worse than piss poor.

2)
A guy or girl is going to take a break or go away


3)
You do not want your champion sitting home or making a movie ... you don’t want that person sitting home ... IT’S BAD FOR BUSINESS! TAKE THE BELT OFF HER!


4) Does she make cash for her fights? Sure. Do I think she'll pull more for a rematch? Oh fuck yeah.
There is too much money on the table to pass up a rematch with Holly Holm.


Laila Ali also slams her pretty hard.
“In order to be the best in the world, you definitely don’t ever get beat up like that in your prime, period,” Ali said.
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“I don’t think she should have a rematch with Holly Holm,” Ali said, “because I think it would go the same way the second time. Probably worse.”


Other than an undefeated record, she hasn't lost much.
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