Shit goes to hell. EMP strike, no more gasoline, strategic nukes go off in 10 American cities, whatever. No more food is getting from farm to market, civil order is breaking down, and dark clouds are on the horizon.
What are you prepared for?
What are you prepared to do?
And use reality. Don't just say, "Go to my neighbor and rob him of all his food" unless you have the firepower and the will to use it.
WHAT ARE YOUR PREPPER PLANS
Probably die in the nuke on the Port of Houston.
But if Houston is not nuked, then there's two possibilities. One is to hunker down here. There's an office building around the corner that is built like it's set up to withstand an armored assault. I know several nearby locations that regularly get Sparklett's water delivery to hit for that, and there's tons of food all around here. My main problem will be dealing with other humans in this urban environment, but fortunately most of them will be dumb enough to hop in their cars and get stuck on the interstate. I don't have firepower, but I do have the will to use what I can find and a decent sword to get me started.
If that doesn't look to be likely to work out depending on the circumstances, I try to make my way to the mountains of New Mexico where my folks have a survival bunker set up and waiting.
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But if Houston is not nuked, then there's two possibilities. One is to hunker down here. There's an office building around the corner that is built like it's set up to withstand an armored assault. I know several nearby locations that regularly get Sparklett's water delivery to hit for that, and there's tons of food all around here. My main problem will be dealing with other humans in this urban environment, but fortunately most of them will be dumb enough to hop in their cars and get stuck on the interstate. I don't have firepower, but I do have the will to use what I can find and a decent sword to get me started.
If that doesn't look to be likely to work out depending on the circumstances, I try to make my way to the mountains of New Mexico where my folks have a survival bunker set up and waiting.
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Heh. Not exactly. Dad's a nuclear scientist (retired) and my step-mom was a psychologist turned small-business owner. They're only part-time survivalists, and mostly gave it up by the mid-00s. They still have the bunker, though, and like to live in a bus from time to time when they aren't busy scuba-diving in Thailand or Hawaii.
Even at their peak they were, like 50% survivalist and 50% hippies.
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Even at their peak they were, like 50% survivalist and 50% hippies.
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We typically have enough food in the house to hunker down for a month, depending on the time of year, to perhaps lose a few pounds, but we would not be malnourished. Late Spring we have the least as all the stuff I preserved the previous Summer/Autumn is about used up.
Have enough lumber on hand to build false walls here and there, hide what I want to hide.
I am ashamed to say I have no firearms, mostly because they are an expense I have not yet felt justified in spending.... seems like there is always something that has to be fixed in this old house. I do, however, have an unkbill about 400 yards away with an assortment of shotguns, muzzle loaders, and hand guns. I assume he wouldn't shoot me on sight, and would loan me one.
This doomsday scenario would be worse if it hit America in, say, March.... no crops in the field yet. I probably have more kin in this small town than anyone else.... one assumes we could band together. Safety in numbers.
Have enough lumber on hand to build false walls here and there, hide what I want to hide.
I am ashamed to say I have no firearms, mostly because they are an expense I have not yet felt justified in spending.... seems like there is always something that has to be fixed in this old house. I do, however, have an unkbill about 400 yards away with an assortment of shotguns, muzzle loaders, and hand guns. I assume he wouldn't shoot me on sight, and would loan me one.
This doomsday scenario would be worse if it hit America in, say, March.... no crops in the field yet. I probably have more kin in this small town than anyone else.... one assumes we could band together. Safety in numbers.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
I also have an invite to a compound in the Ozarks that was never rescinded, wink. I'd head there if we had to leave the area and it was the best option. I would definitely not want to live in this region without a steady source of heat in the winter.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Head for the wilderness. Where ever food lives and people don't. Primary early objective would be securing a jeep of some kind and stock piling gas to get to the wilderness. Live in the jeep while building a house.
My biggest fear would be that real life would become just like Rust (or any other MMO). Half the people you meet will want to kill you. The other half wouldn't. But you'd pretty much have to shoot everyone to avoid being shot.
My biggest fear would be that real life would become just like Rust (or any other MMO). Half the people you meet will want to kill you. The other half wouldn't. But you'd pretty much have to shoot everyone to avoid being shot.
We keep probably 1-2 months of food on hand here. At least a half tank of gas in all our vehicles at all times. Unless it's an EMP that takes out the cars, we plan to drive to my dad's place in western Ky. He has about 400 acres of timber land that we can hunt off of. I have non GMO seeds up there and he keeps his own garden every year. We started canning this past summer. Want to get semi good at that.
In the event of an EMP, we have the shortest distance map to Covington where we'd pick up the rails to follow to my dad's. We could pick it up here in town, but we'd have to travel to, and stay in, a pretty bad area for some miles going that route.
Plenty of firearms here and at my dad's. Building an AR-15 because it sounded like a good time.
If we have to bug out of Memphis, the lizard cages get opened and the back door left cracked open and the reptiles are on their own.
Hoping to spend some time at my dad's this year doing stuff like building a chicken coop and a green house and what-not.
In the event of an EMP, we have the shortest distance map to Covington where we'd pick up the rails to follow to my dad's. We could pick it up here in town, but we'd have to travel to, and stay in, a pretty bad area for some miles going that route.
Plenty of firearms here and at my dad's. Building an AR-15 because it sounded like a good time.
If we have to bug out of Memphis, the lizard cages get opened and the back door left cracked open and the reptiles are on their own.
Hoping to spend some time at my dad's this year doing stuff like building a chicken coop and a green house and what-not.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Loot the fuck out of the mini-shopping center across the street. Loot the everloving fuck out of the Mall of America. I can be there in under 20 minutes and they have 10 of every goddamned thing imaginable there. You'd need an army to secure it.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Like most people I have a months worth of food around the house.
Coincidentally I went through my bug out bag a few days ago. I'd pilfered it for rice awhile back and had to restock it.
It has a water purification straw, those shiny reflective blankets (and a Snuggie), a brown tarp, para cord, bottles of water, dry packets of soup, some canned goods, a tiny folding stove with a half-dozen fuel canisters, a Swiss Army knife, instant noodles, plastic utensils, fire striker/matches/lighter, bags of instant rice (pre-measured, in zip-top bags), medical supplies, and a probably a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting about.
It's heavy.
Last summer when I told my brother about the bug out bag he said, "What do you need that for? You live where I'd flee to!"
He had a good point. It's unlikely that I'd have to flee to anywhere.
Heck, my house has a cistern so I can use that water, assuming that fallout doesn't reach me.
I don't own assault weapons but have some firearms to hunt and defend the homestead with.
I got into reloading so I have a good supply .44 magnum rounds laying around, and I have the supplies to make a lot more. My father-in-law has about the same supply for his .357 magnum (which also does .38 Special).
I should probably get more ammo for my carry/conceal weapon.
I bought some bricks of .22LR ammo a couple year ago, before the ammo crisis.
In fact, I bought the specifically because a friend told me how, if there was a bad situation like Gordon described, that .22LR will be a highly sought after item and can be used as currency. My bricks of 500 rounds come in 10, 50-round boxes.
Hunting is going to dry up very quickly. I've talked about this with a wildlife biologist that I used to date.
Right now there is regulated pressure on wildlife, but when people get hungry most of the game will be gone within the first year.
I own 45 acres but little of it is good for farming. I guess I could turn the front and back lawns into gardens but sadly I lack heirloom seeds. Those would be good to have.
I'm friendly with neighbors who own farms, so I'm sure I'll be alright. that's one big advantage to living in the country.
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Coincidentally I went through my bug out bag a few days ago. I'd pilfered it for rice awhile back and had to restock it.
It has a water purification straw, those shiny reflective blankets (and a Snuggie), a brown tarp, para cord, bottles of water, dry packets of soup, some canned goods, a tiny folding stove with a half-dozen fuel canisters, a Swiss Army knife, instant noodles, plastic utensils, fire striker/matches/lighter, bags of instant rice (pre-measured, in zip-top bags), medical supplies, and a probably a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting about.
It's heavy.
Last summer when I told my brother about the bug out bag he said, "What do you need that for? You live where I'd flee to!"
He had a good point. It's unlikely that I'd have to flee to anywhere.
Heck, my house has a cistern so I can use that water, assuming that fallout doesn't reach me.
I don't own assault weapons but have some firearms to hunt and defend the homestead with.
I got into reloading so I have a good supply .44 magnum rounds laying around, and I have the supplies to make a lot more. My father-in-law has about the same supply for his .357 magnum (which also does .38 Special).
I should probably get more ammo for my carry/conceal weapon.
I bought some bricks of .22LR ammo a couple year ago, before the ammo crisis.
In fact, I bought the specifically because a friend told me how, if there was a bad situation like Gordon described, that .22LR will be a highly sought after item and can be used as currency. My bricks of 500 rounds come in 10, 50-round boxes.
Hunting is going to dry up very quickly. I've talked about this with a wildlife biologist that I used to date.
Right now there is regulated pressure on wildlife, but when people get hungry most of the game will be gone within the first year.
I own 45 acres but little of it is good for farming. I guess I could turn the front and back lawns into gardens but sadly I lack heirloom seeds. Those would be good to have.
I'm friendly with neighbors who own farms, so I'm sure I'll be alright. that's one big advantage to living in the country.
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That's what most hunters today don't understand. Ask your grandparents about how often they ate deer during the depression. Squirrels were a treat to find and kill. That's why those 22 rounds will be so valuable. Also, get over the yuck factor on eating rats. As long as they're grain fed country rats. City rats... not so much.Paul wrote:Hunting is going to dry up very quickly. I've talked about this with a wildlife biologist that I used to date.
Right now there is regulated pressure on wildlife, but when people get hungry most of the game will be gone within the first year.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
I would, if for no other reason than to show him you often have to take matters into your own hands and not rely on what the "authorities" say to keep you safe (see Katrina in New Orleans).GORDON wrote:I wonder if we should screen Alive next.
If you've been lost for three days, assume they aren't going to find you any time soon. Then you might not have to eat dead people.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Ha, that's one of the frequent "morality" conversations he and I have when he doesn't realize I am giving him a lesson in morality. Things like, "School may have zero tolerance against fighting, but I do not. If someone starts a fight with you, defend yourself. The school may be mad at you for fighting, but you will never be in trouble with me for defending yourself." Little lesson about defying authority, when the situation requires it.
I just have to make sure he has enough sense to recognize that situation when it comes.
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I just have to make sure he has enough sense to recognize that situation when it comes.
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"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."