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Is border enforcement in the USA racist?

Yes, enforcing borders is racist.
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No, it is not racist.
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Total votes: 5

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Postby GORDON » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:44 pm

Just checking the DTMan barometer.
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Postby Vince » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:39 pm

I want to keep out white people that come here illegally, too.

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Postby Leisher » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:20 pm

I really want the yes vote to explain their stance. Perhaps they can change my mind?
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Postby TheCatt » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:26 pm

Leisher wrote:Source of the post I really want the yes vote to explain their stance. Perhaps they can change my mind?

Troy? I dunno.
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Postby Troy » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:31 pm

This is a dumb poll and I didn’t vote in it.

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Postby thibodeaux » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:30 pm

broke: enforcing borders is racist
woke: America is a racist country and we should keep non-whites out for their own safety

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Postby GORDON » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:34 pm

Is it true that the people who were trying to get into the country can leave the "concentration camp" detention centers at any time, as long as they go back home? Saw that said, somewhere. Don't know how to verify.
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Postby TheCatt » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:37 pm

GORDON wrote:Source of the post Is it true that the people who were trying to get into the country can leave the "concentration camp" detention centers at any time, as long as they go back home? Saw that said, somewhere. Don't know how to verify.

Aren't they only in the centers to try and get into the US?
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Postby GORDON » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:40 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post
GORDON wrote:Source of the post Is it true that the people who were trying to get into the country can leave the "concentration camp" detention centers at any time, as long as they go back home? Saw that said, somewhere. Don't know how to verify.

Aren't they only in the centers to try and get into the US?


I'm not sure if it's a holding station for getting in, or a holding station for being sent home. Or both, depending on circumstances?

But apparently there's ovens and gas chambers and shit, according to someone who one would think would be highly educated.
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Postby TheCatt » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:05 pm

GORDON wrote:Source of the post I'm not sure if it's a holding station for getting in, or a holding station for being sent home. Or both, depending on circumstances?

I thought it was both/either, depending. They want asylum, they wait there. They get caught crossing, maybe they get sent there? Maybe they get sent home?

GORDON wrote:Source of the post But apparently there's ovens and gas chambers and shit, according to someone who one would think would be highly educated.

You're confusing "concentration camp" with "Nazi concentration camp"
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Postby GORDON » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:06 pm

I thought the intended imagery comparison was obvious.

Anyway, if they can leave any time they want, then she's even more retarded than I originally thought.
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Postby TheCatt » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:25 pm

Apparently it's hard to leave

As of July 2019, migrants are "free to leave" U.S. immigration detention centers and return to their countries of origin, at will.

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It's possible, under a policy called "voluntary departure," for a migrant to obtain an immigration judge's permission to pay for their own flight out of the U.S., as an alternative to being deported.

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Migrants in detention facilities are in the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and attempting to leave a facility without authorization is a criminal offense. The option of "voluntary departure" is blocked off to many by significant legal and financial barriers, and the entire process is subject to the authority and discretion of immigration officials and courts. Migrants cannot simply "leave at any time."
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Postby Vince » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:36 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Apparently it's hard to leave

As of July 2019, migrants are "free to leave" U.S. immigration detention centers and return to their countries of origin, at will.

What's True
It's possible, under a policy called "voluntary departure," for a migrant to obtain an immigration judge's permission to pay for their own flight out of the U.S., as an alternative to being deported.

What's False
Migrants in detention facilities are in the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and attempting to leave a facility without authorization is a criminal offense. The option of "voluntary departure" is blocked off to many by significant legal and financial barriers, and the entire process is subject to the authority and discretion of immigration officials and courts. Migrants cannot simply "leave at any time."

If only there was a way to avoid them.

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Postby Vince » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:38 pm

TheCatt wrote:You're confusing "concentration camp" with "Nazi concentration camp"

Apparently AOC (the one who started the whole "concentration camp" analogy) was also confused since she threw in the phrase "never again" when making the comparison.

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Postby GORDON » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:49 pm

TheCatt wrote:Source of the post Apparently it's hard to leave

As of July 2019, migrants are "free to leave" U.S. immigration detention centers and return to their countries of origin, at will.

What's True
It's possible, under a policy called "voluntary departure," for a migrant to obtain an immigration judge's permission to pay for their own flight out of the U.S., as an alternative to being deported.

What's False
Migrants in detention facilities are in the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and attempting to leave a facility without authorization is a criminal offense. The option of "voluntary departure" is blocked off to many by significant legal and financial barriers, and the entire process is subject to the authority and discretion of immigration officials and courts. Migrants cannot simply "leave at any time."


Though I usually take Snopes with a grain of salt, I will accept that answer.

But as Vince said... "If only there were some way to not leave my country of origin, travel through a number of others, and get caught in a detention center at the US border before requesting asylum. None of us are safe."
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Postby thibodeaux » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:28 pm

Come on guys. These people are just looking for a place to live.

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Postby Vince » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:08 pm

Vince wrote:Source of the post
TheCatt wrote:You're confusing "concentration camp" with "Nazi concentration camp"

Apparently AOC (the one who started the whole "concentration camp" analogy) was also confused since she threw in the phrase "never again" when making the comparison.

Also, someone might want to let Antifa know about the softer, gentler definition of "concentration camp", as the dead Antifa terrorist that attacked the ICE facility had a manifesto filled with AOC's talking points. Including use of the term "concentration camp".

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