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Should the Confederate Flag be generally banned? (outside of history, historical battlegrounds, etc)

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I used to be pretty live and let live about the confederate flag. But I honestly think it should be banned. Do similar as Germany did with Nazi symbols. The confederates started a war, they lost. Fuck em.
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TheCatt wrote: The confederates started a war, they lost. Fuck em.
That has a lot of merit, but they weren't some foreign power. They were us.

I don't think the flag should have anything to do with our government, but the government has no business telling people if they can own them or not.
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The people who want to start a civil war and break off from the federal government changes every time the party of the president changes.
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Leisher wrote: That has a lot of merit, but they weren't some foreign power. They were us.
The Nazis were Germans...
GORDON wrote: The people who want to start a civil war and break off from the federal government changes every time the party of the president changes.
Kinda, but I mean, these people did try to break out, and did start a civil war. So fuck em.
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It's because of South Carolina. Shit always starts in South Carolina.

That being said, SC did give lots of fair warning for federal troops to leave Fort Sumpter. In a way, the north started the war. *ahem*
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Eye roll
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TheCatt wrote: The Nazis were Germans...
I was referring to the Confederate flag.
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Leisher wrote:
TheCatt wrote: The Nazis were Germans...
I was referring to the Confederate flag.
Right, just saying, we didn't get rid of Germans, we got rid of Nazis.
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TheCatt wrote:
Leisher wrote:
TheCatt wrote: The Nazis were Germans...
I was referring to the Confederate flag.
Right, just saying, we didn't get rid of Germans, we got rid of Nazis.
And what group did we eliminate in the civil war?
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Slaves.

Ha.
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GORDON wrote: Slaves.

Ha.
Right? So we have to ban Irish, Chinese, and black people?
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Just the ugly ones.
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Leisher wrote: And what group did we eliminate in the civil war?
Confederates.
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TheCatt wrote:
Leisher wrote: And what group did we eliminate in the civil war?
Confederates.
I'd argue that phrasing.
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GORDON wrote:
TheCatt wrote:
Leisher wrote: And what group did we eliminate in the civil war?
Confederates.
I'd argue that phrasing.
Hah. (I think, if I understand you correctly).

But seriously. They lost. no flags of traitors.
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I'd argue the label "traitor," as well. What they attempted wasn't technically illegal. They were not rebelling against the USA any more than the Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves... they decreed themselves a separate country, and said, "Leave us alone now."

The same thing millions of liberals are saying who want their little enclaves of Blue to be separate from Trump's federal government.
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GORDON wrote: I'd argue the label "traitor," as well. What they attempted wasn't technically illegal.
You can argue anything you want. SCOTUS has ruled it illegal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession ... ted_States

So it is. And they were traitors. They only get to be revolutionaries or patriots if they win.
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TheCatt wrote: SCOTUS has ruled it illegal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secession ... ted_States
They also ruled on Obamacare incorrectly. Just saying...
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I think the rights of all losers should be violated.
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