Vegas Shooting

Post by **GORDON** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:19 pm

Does anyone know if the hotel had signs on the door declaring it is a gun-free zone?

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:09 pm

No idea, but that'd be a great trolling FB post.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:29 am

A friend posted this:

Until the greater good of the many becomes more important than an individual's selfish wants we will never have change. Listening to the news this morning, over 700 people killed in mass shootings in the past 10 years. When will we say enough is enough?! "The right to bear arms." Give me a fucking break with that bull shit. What about the right for little kids to go to school with out being killed?! Or the right to attend a concert and not be killed?! Or go to the movies?! Or a church?! Or getting fast food?! The safety of PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS should be more important than you having the "right" to own a gun. It really should not be that hard!!!!!!

I refuse to debate with people on FB or I'd simply ask her if she also demands alcohol be banned since it takes 10,000+ lives a year just in auto accidents alone. We don't need alcohol except for selfish reasons. At least with guns there is always the purpose of stopping an out of control government, self defense, hunting, etc.

Emotions should never be involved when setting policy.

As for the killer, the guy was retired at 64, had an arsenal, had two homes, wired $100K to the Philippines before the shooting, and played $100 a hand at the tables in Vegas, which he frequented often. However, his work history is as follows:
-July 1976 to January 1978: Letter Carrier, US Postal Service
-January 1978 to February 1984: Internal Revenue Agent, Internal Revenue Service
-February 1984 to September 1985: Auditing, Defense Contract Audit Agency

What the fuck am I missing here? Where did this guy get his money? Is he retired from not working?

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:43 am

He did lots of other stuff after government work

He was worth more than $2 million, relatives said. Before retiring, he made a small fortune from real estate deals and a business that he and Eric Paddock sold off. He traveled a lot and had millions of free airline miles.

At various points of his life, Stephen Paddock worked for defense contractor Lockheed Martin and as an accountant and property manager. As a retiree, he had no children and plenty of money to play with. So he took up gambling.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:10 pm

Well fuck you CNN for presenting his employment as only covering 10 years.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:02 pm

YouTube and FB are filling up with conspiracy theory bullshit.

My two favorites are the strobe light people think is machine gun fire and the second shooter that can be heard (Hint: When her window is down it sounds like one shooter and when it's up it sounds like another.)

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:18 pm

Someone said the echo between buildings made it hard to pinpoint from where the shots from coming.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:29 am

I used to think gun control was the answer. My research told me otherwise.
That's in the Washington Freaking Post!

Instead, I found the most hope in more narrowly tailored interventions...rhe next-largest [after suicides] set of gun deaths — 1 in 5 — were young men aged 15 to 34, killed in homicides. These men were most likely to die at the hands of other young men, often related to gang loyalties or other street violence.

"Young men." I think can get it even narrower than that...but that would be RACISSSSSS

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:06 am

all 33,000 lives ended by guns each year in the United States

That number seems really high.

Two-thirds of gun deaths in the United States every year are suicides.

Wait, so 22,000 people each year commit suicide by gun?

Of the 11,000 left around 1,000 are shot by cops. Another 500 or so by accidental discharge.

So you're looking at around 9,500 murders by gun each year with the VAST majority being by handgun. That's important because nobody is talking about banning handguns.

YET.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:02 am

Leisher wrote:
So you're looking at around 9,500 murders by gun each year with the VAST majority being by handgun. That's important because nobody is talking about banning handguns.

YET.

Not Lately, you mean.

Post by **GORDON** » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:04 am

I liked the FB pic I saw recently of Jewish concentration camp peeps that said, "Here's 6 million reasons for allowing citizens to own guns."

Post by **Leisher** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:55 pm

He exhibited symptoms of a mental illness.

Shocking.

Post by **Vince** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:10 am

Leisher wrote:Wait, so 22,000 people each year commit suicide by gun?

Of the 11,000 left around 1,000 are shot by cops. Another 500 or so by accidental discharge.

So you're looking at around 9,500 murders by gun each year with the VAST majority being by handgun. That's important because nobody is talking about banning handguns.

YET.

Take out the gang related shootings and it starts getting really small.

I think the bump stocks might get some heightened regulation, but that's about it.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:51 pm

Shooter's brother was just arrested on child pornography charges.

Post by **Vince** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:53 pm

Is it just me, or does it feel like people in power really don't want any answers on what the hell was going on there? This is a weird ass story that just keeps getting more weird.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:58 pm

Vince wrote: Is it just me, or does it feel like people in power really don't want any answers on what the hell was going on there? This is a weird ass story that just keeps getting more weird.

That family is definitely weird. Did you see the interview with the other brother? And apparently the dad was a bank robber or something.

Post by **Vince** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:08 am

thibodeaux wrote:That family is definitely weird. Did you see the interview with the other brother? And apparently the dad was a bank robber or something.

I only saw the one brother in FL talking from the day after the shooting. There's another brother interview now? I seem to recall having heard about the father.

Post by **Leisher** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:03 am

The father was on the FBI's most wanted list, and yes it was for bank robbery.

Post by **thibodeaux** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:37 pm

Vince wrote:
thibodeaux wrote:That family is definitely weird. Did you see the interview with the other brother? And apparently the dad was a bank robber or something.
I only saw the one brother in FL talking from the day after the shooting. There's another brother interview now? I seem to recall having heard about the father.

The on in Florida is the one I'm talking about. He was really hinky. But apparently not the kiddie porn guy, which I would not have put past him.