2020 General Election Thread

Post by **TheCatt** » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:37 am

Vince wrote:
I told you I liked Gabbard.

Vince admits to being a Russian agent!

Post by **Vince** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:31 am

Heheh... I'm starting to think the "Russian Asset" smear has already reached the realm of sexist/bigot/homophobe.

Post by **GORDON** » Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:00 pm

I've been using it as a punchline for a long time.

Post by **Leisher** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:19 pm

Hillary Clinton is making her presence felt lately.

Remember what I was saying about political favors?

Post by **Vince** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:54 am

Crowder shows proof that YouTube is meddling in election…

Not a site I'd normally source, but more sourcing Crowder than the site. Crowder is a right wing comic and has been exposing YouTube for shadow banning his channel for a while. That's how he stumbled into their doing it to Tulsi Gabbard after the Hillary comments.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:03 am

Eh, I buy it, but only because it's not a huge stretch of the imagination.

It's not like Google pretends to be politically unbiased.

Post by **GORDON** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:42 am

"TRUMP WANTS TO CENSOR THE INTERNET. HE'S BAD."

Everyone else wants to censor the internet more.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:10 pm

CNN poll has Biden winning in a landslide.

[Insert joke about their polls showing Hillary winning in a landslide.]

In other news, CNN wants you to know Russian trolls are on FB attempting to meddle in the election again.

Post by **TheCatt** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:34 pm

Leisher wrote: CNN poll has Biden winning in a landslide.

The primary, not the 2020... just to be clear.

Post by **Leisher** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:35 pm

TheCatt wrote:
Leisher wrote: CNN poll has Biden winning in a landslide.
The primary, not the 2020... just to be clear.

I honestly didn't read the article. Just saw the headline, which was "Poll spells bad news for Trump 2020" and saw the summary was Biden winning in a landslide.

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:27 am

Warren releases her medicare for all plan. It's threaded into a bunch of posts.

* No more private insurers
* No taxes on anyone but the "1% and large corporations" (Better enforcement of existing taxes, financial transaction tax (boo), raise corp tax back to 35% including foreign earnings)
* Any doctor, choice, medicine, etc.

Post by **GORDON** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:10 am

If she WILL put the insurance companies out of business, she has my vote.

I don't see the legislators who are paid by insurance companies letting that happen.

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:12 am

GORDON wrote: If she WILL put the insurance companies out of business, she has my vote.

I don't see the legislators who are paid by insurance companies letting that happen.

Part of her argument is that administrative costs for insurance companies is around 12.5% vs 2.5% for Medicaid.

Post by **Vince** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:46 am

TheCatt wrote: Warren releases her medicare for all plan. It's threaded into a bunch of posts.
* No more private insurers
* No taxes on anyone but the "1% and large corporations" (Better enforcement of existing taxes, financial transaction tax (boo), raise corp tax back to 35% including foreign earnings)
* Any doctor, choice, medicine, etc.

I think it came out to $52-53 Trillion over 10 years. For some perspective, per year that's about $1.5 trillion more than we collected in taxes in total last year. If you think the economy will last those 10 years by saddling them with that additional burden on them...

Also, she's talking about a wealth tax on that top 1%. Currently, a federal wealth tax is unconstitutional. They had to pass an amendment to allow for the income tax way back when. For shits and giggles, go back and see what percentage of Americans they promised that would be limited to and what the percentage caps was promised. Then go see how quickly they broke those promises (wanting to say it was less than 10 years).

If she gets elected on this, we're too stupid to exist as a nation.

Post by **Vince** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:00 pm

Also, do you think the billions they extract from businesses to cover this will come from their profits, or from that pool of money that pays their employees?

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:25 pm

Vince wrote: Also, do you think the billions they extract from businesses to cover this will come from their profits, or from that pool of money that pays their employees?

Well, the giant tax cuts they just got went to profits and not employees, so....

Post by **Vince** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:17 pm

Robert Francis is out. Everyone is trying to anticipate where his 1% is going.

Post by **Vince** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:18 pm

TheCatt wrote:
Vince wrote: Also, do you think the billions they extract from businesses to cover this will come from their profits, or from that pool of money that pays their employees?
Well, the giant tax cuts they just got went to profits and not employees, so....

So you're saying the increase in taxes will in fact come from salaries.

Post by **TheCatt** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:24 pm

Vince wrote:
TheCatt wrote:
Vince wrote: Also, do you think the billions they extract from businesses to cover this will come from their profits, or from that pool of money that pays their employees?
Well, the giant tax cuts they just got went to profits and not employees, so....
So you're saying the increase in taxes will in fact come from salaries.

Well, no.

Post by **Vince** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:30 pm

So they're so greedy they kept all the tax deductions for themselves, but they're so altruistic they will cut their profits rather than they employees salaries and benefits to pay the extra tax burden to cover the government health care.

Roger that.