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TheCatt wrote: To be fair, he's an idiot

No argument here.

As for the Climate Change stuff, neither of you are wrong. The U.S. could stop using fossil fuels tomorrow, and it wouldn't mean shit because India and China won't stop. However, we should do something.

TheCatt wrote: Dont just do something, stand there while the world burns.

Flap your wings as hard as you can, you still won't put out the fire. Get a million of your closest friends to flap with you, and it still won't make a difference. Choose your battles.

And we are doing something. New windmills go up every days, electric cars make up (something like) 1.4% of all car sales, and the number is growing. People are choosing to live a more sustainable lifestyle on their own, local towns and cities are passing their own legislation about it. Big picture, all this stuff doesn't matter, compared to China and India. But it isn't like Trump's personal ignorance actually matters. Things move forward, without him.

I know I burned like 20% fewer tires this year in my back yard, for example, and not because of what Trump thought.

Trump wants to create a state run media outlet.

So much for a free press.

To compete with Stars and Stripes, and Voice of America?

Most of CNN's headlines this morning are news bits and opinion pieces that Trump is in trouble.

I promise you the vast majority of Americans, both pro and anti Trump folks, have little to no idea what Trump is being investigated for, and they don't care. They would probably just say, "The Russians helped Trump steal the election!" People are just rooting for their "team" and regurgitating bullet points.

Trump and China declare ceasefire in trade war.

China to cut tariffs on U.S. cars.

DOW is up big on the news.

CNN is here to explain how this makes Trump evil.

Leisher wrote: Trump and China declare ceasefire in trade war.

China to cut tariffs on U.S. cars.

DOW is up big on the news.

And back down 700 as of this moment

And Democrats cheer!

GORDON wrote: And Democrats cheer!

Honestly, until I'm ready to retire, the stock market can stay as low as possible.

Republican campaign was hacked significantly during midterms.

The thought process is that it did indeed affect election efforts.

The government at the behest of Dems are immediately moving to create a task force to investigate and hold someone responsible.

No, I'm kidding. Nobody gives a fuck.

Leisher wrote: No, I'm kidding. Nobody gives a fuck.

They are both children who can go fuck themselves.

They control all mass media, and it is indeed YOU who can go fuck yourself, if they deem you should.

It won't change. They won't let it. If a popular movement like the Tea Party threatens their hegemony over the government, you can be damned sure the media will destroy it in the minds of the people stupid enough to believe them. And that's more than 50%.

Nothing's going to change without blood. If you aren't going to pick up a gun, you aren't going to change anything, and raging about it is nothing more than a waste of energy.

Trump wants iPhones made in the U.S. and CNN is here to tell you why that's bad.

In other news, Trump is going to cure cancer and CNN will explain to you why that's bad.

Leisher wrote: Trump wants iPhones made in the U.S. and CNN is here to tell you why that's bad.

In other news, Trump is going to cure cancer and CNN will explain to you why that's bad.

CNN.com seriously needs an ombudsman to get their shit straight.

Giuliani makes typo, thinks he was "invaded" due to his own mistake

Stormy Daniels ordered to pay Trump's lawyers.

The CFO of Huawei takes center stage in the U.S.-China trade war.

Dude should go bald and rock a beard.

Chief of Staff Jose Canseco?

I mean, why the fuck not? It's already a complete circus. What's another clown?

Leisher wrote: Texas judge kills Obamacare.

Well, maybe. I'm guessing the decision gets stayed + appealed.

But, really, the Republicans killed it, not the judge, by changing it last year.