England
Re: Brexit
Leave - 51.46% with 166 of 382 reporting. I really expected it to start swinging towards "stay" as the count continued and (I would assume) larger population areas got counted.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Re: Brexit
Detroit always decides Michigan... has London been counted yet?
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Re: Brexit
It's barely 5am in London right now.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Re: Brexit
Yeah, and didn't they vote yesterday?
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Re: Brexit
It was supposed to be done counting "by breakfast time" England time. So before I go to bed I think we'll know for sure.
Re: Brexit
This would be a huge dick punch to Cameron. Pound went down 10%. Sweet.With 323 of 382 counting centers reporting results, the "leave" side is ahead by over 900,000 votes.
Oh shit, Ricky.The Betfair market predicted a 51 percent chance of Britain leaving the EU — the first time in the referendum campaign the option has become the favorite. Bookies' odds on Brexit also shortened to as short as 6-5. They had been 5-1 only hours earlier, as polls pointed to a "remain" win.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Re: Brexit
I don't really know they whys or wherefores or predictions of consequences for leaving, but good for them.
If Texas secedes I'm going to Texas. FYI.
If Texas secedes I'm going to Texas. FYI.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Re: Brexit
Official. The margin is enough such that the remaining votes don't matter.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Re: Brexit
Does anyone know why this happened? I didn't even know it was happening until about 2 days ago.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Re: Brexit
There will be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth from the progressives, but I'm glad to see this actually. It will hurt financially from them especially (all way around really) for the short term, but I remember hearing that about 90% of the countries' policies for EU members are implemented by the EU rather than the member nations. I suspect it's very much how those of us in fly over country feel about DC.
Dow futures are down over 500 points right now. Gold is up.
I was wondering about a Texit as well.
Dow futures are down over 500 points right now. Gold is up.
I was wondering about a Texit as well.
I'm not sure of all the specifics. I know that the immigration policies set by the EU have not been well received at all. That's a big part of the recent dislike of it.Does anyone know why this happened? I didn't even know it was happening until about 2 days ago.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Re: Brexit
I was wondering if it was an immigration issue.
I kept hearing "they are all just ignorant racist fascists who dont like brown people" from the one side, and I am surprised that wasn't received as a persuasive argument from the "let's leave the EU" side.
I kept hearing "they are all just ignorant racist fascists who dont like brown people" from the one side, and I am surprised that wasn't received as a persuasive argument from the "let's leave the EU" side.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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Wow. Did not see that coming. Good thing I don't bet on this crap.
It's not me, it's someone else.
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Honestly, I think that's just the latest issue. Lack of sovereignty, bailing out other countries too lazy or scared to make hard choices, and then the proverbial straw of immigration.GORDON wrote:I was wondering if it was an immigration issue.
"... and then I was forced to walk the Trail of Tears." - Elizabeth Warren
Re: Brexit
I know all. This was something Cameron had been promising since 2012. In 2015, the Conservative Party (major get the fuck out of the EU proponents) won their general elections. The UK Independence Party, dudes so far to the right they make Conservos (Tories) look like commies, actually won a seat in Parliament. They're becoming increasingly popular/popularist.GORDON wrote:Does anyone know why this happened? I didn't even know it was happening until about 2 days ago.
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Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
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To further clarify: Cameron's a Conservative, and to mollify his own party he promised an independence vote. He thought it would fail.Malcolm wrote:I know all. This was something Cameron had been promising since 2012. In 2015, the Conservative Party (major get the fuck out of the EU proponents) won their general elections. The UK Independence Party, dudes so far to the right they make Convervos look like commies, actually won a seat in Parliament. They're becoming increasingly popular/popularist.GORDON wrote:Does anyone know why this happened? I didn't even know it was happening until about 2 days ago.
It's not me, it's someone else.
Re: Brexit
They should have been better prepared to find "oops these ballots were misplaced" like in the better American elections. I'm sure they wont make that mistake again.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
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I'm betting Scotland would give a year's worth of the finest haggis they've got for another go at that independence vote.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Re: Brexit
Malcolm wrote:This would be a huge dick punch to Cameron.With 323 of 382 counting centers reporting results, the "leave" side is ahead by over 900,000 votes.
Resignation.
Diogenes of Sinope: "It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC: "Better dead than smeg."
Re: Brexit
That's a bit of a dishonest statement.The EU, which rose out of the ashes of two world wars fascist and communist totalitarianism to unite a continent of prosperous democracies, faces economic and political damage without Britain, which has the EU's biggest financial centre, a U.N. Security Council veto, a powerful army and nuclear weapons.
"Be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
Re: Brexit
Yeah, I'm not entirely certain the impact of all this. What if England says OK, we're leaving, but let's have a free trade, open borders agreement? Or some such.
It's not me, it's someone else.