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I'd like to see that bluff called.


I already think the Big Ten and other conferences should walk from the NCAA due to the treatment the SEC receives, but that's a topic for another day.

And while you might think it's a ridiculous statement, don't think for a second that it isn't an option. ALL of the Div I schools could simply disband Div I football and head to the lower brackets where the NCAA and the schools would have more power.

I mean seriously, what do you think is more likely to happen:
1. Schools stay in Div I and pay billions to the lawsuit.
2. Schools disband Div I, join another division, and pay nothing, or nothing going forward.

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I'm pretty sure the schools and NCAA are in on the greed as well.


I'm not saying they're not. I'm saying the players already get a salary, but that is completely ignored because this suit is being filed by people who wanted to go pro or did, but failed. This isn't former players who wanted a degree, and just happened to also be good at sports. This isn't guys who did their time and then made millions as a pro. This is the guys who lived in limbo. What's ironic about that, is they're the ones who will be hurt the most by changes to the system.

I also think there's a lot less money available than the players believe. For every OSU or Alabama, there are dozens of Northwesterns. More schools run their programs on shoestring budgets than have massive budgets. OSU, Alabama, Michigan, USC, etc. are not the norm. We just hear about them the most.
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According to this article, the total profits of all profitable program was $331 Million.  That doesn't include the ones that lost money.  Remember, football/basketball subsidize all other sports at a lot of schools.  So a) the pie isn't that big and b) with a smaller pie, say goodbye to a lot of the Olympic sports.

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ALL of the Div I schools could simply disband Div I football and head to the lower brackets where the NCAA and the schools would have more power.

Seriously, I'd love to see it for sheer entertainment purposes.  I don't think they have the balls (no pun intended) to do it.

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This is the guys who lived in limbo. What's ironic about that, is they're the ones who will be hurt the most by changes to the system.

So the failures are expressing their discontent?  Surprise, surprise.  When did self-delusion become the basis for a lawsuit?

You've obviously got a disconnect between "dudes who think pro sports will be their career" and "dudes who aren't under any illusion they'll make it big in pro sports."  Among the former group, you've got a small portion that has what it takes to make it, and then the vast majority who may or may not get drafted, but invariably wash out.  Those classes of dudes all want different treatment.

For the record, I think the argument O'Bannon's making is completely full of shit.
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They want all current and future college athletes to be able to make licensing deals of their own.

Not pro sports, not the same.  University and a professional sports team are two different entities, two different worlds, two different games.

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Whatever happens from here, the O’Bannon case has already performed a valuable service: It has exposed a system whose sole purpose is to deny the value of talented athletes.

Sort of.  It's brought light on a system run by greedy douchebags.  Unfortunately, it was brought to light by a cadre of equally greedy douchebags.

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Div I schools could simply disband Div I football and head to the lower brackets where the NCAA and the schools would have more power.

That's just a delay tactic until the suit finds its way down to the lower division.


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According to this article, the total profits of all profitable program was $331 Million.  That doesn't include the ones that lost money.  Remember, football/basketball subsidize all other sports at a lot of schools.  So a) the pie isn't that big and b) with a smaller pie, say goodbye to a lot of the Olympic sports.


Thanks for backing up my argument with some facts.

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When practicing law became a business rather than a tool to settle disputes.
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When was practicing law anything but a business?

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If O'Bannon's case succeeds, we might lose this:


Fuck you O'Bannon!
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I would choose that over bacon.

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Football alone does make a fair amount of money, at least at the big schools:
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The athletic department money has followed suit: 2012 produced revenue of $124.5 million and profit of $19.4 million, according to data from USA Today, up from $67.7 million in revenue and $7.1 million in profit in 2007. Football accounts for about two-thirds of all revenue and $45 million in profit, while the school’s other sports teams collectively lose money.

So all other sports combined lose $25+ million.


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Rutgers' new AD is a cunt.

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A $300,000 verdict in favor of Banker was overturned earlier this year, as a judge ruled she could not prove her firing was because of her complaint.

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Golfer fined for washing her car on campus.

Fuck you NCAA.

I'd say fuck you in the ass, but the SEC's dick in already up there.

Keep fucking over kids like this while guys like Cam Newton get paid hundreds of thousands to play in the SEC.

Go fuck yourselves.
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Good to know college sports execs are the same type of pricks that run the pro leagues.

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Judge tosses lawsuit about Penn State's sanctions.
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So where will that $60 million in taxpayer dollars to pay the fine go?

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Ducks get probation and scholarship loss.

For those keeping score at home, paying for players and breaking recruiting rules equals minor penalties, while not knowing that your players are selling their own property equals major penalties.

Meanwhile, the SEC is still shrouded in recruiting scandals and oversigning and nobody at the NCAA seems to give a fuck.

Fuck the NCAA.
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Good luck UNC.

As a Buckeye fan, I know that this shit sucks.
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At this point, I'm surprised UNC even has an athletics program left.

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Hairston was driving a rented vehicle linked to a convicted felon facing pending drug charges at the time of the arrest.

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Johnny Manziel is a ticking time bomb.

"I overslept" doesn't match the reports of his behavior that have come out of the camp.

Throw this in with him not attending classes on campus EVER, his luxury cars, flashes of huge wads of cash on Twitter, etc. and this kid could be the next Ryan Leaf. I hope JaVon Clowney gets a chance to teach him some reality.
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