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Leisher 
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Posted on: Nov. 29 2006,13:32 |
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The early word is that Microsoft has the lead (and with a year long head start, they SHOULD), with Wii in second, and the PS3 bringing up the rear.
Looking closer at the numbers though, this Christmas is key for Microsoft. Apparently, they expect to sell a lot of units this holiday season, although, they should've introduced a price reduction to offset the other new consoles.
The Wii is way better than expected according to early reports and consumers. Although, it does appear to have a problem. Be careful with that remote and check halfway down that page for a video. What is the deal with TV stations always finding the idiot for their "man on the street" interviews? (FYI: I still hate the MSM, they don't report anything without spinning it, even console releases.)
The PS3 is sucking up the joint. They're not selling as many as expected and even their ebay value has dropped dramatically. I guess nobody gives a shit about BlueRay and they shouldn't. At least not for $600 to play fucking video games when a PC can be purchased cheaper and can do much, much, much more.
The last Game Informer has a list of exclusive games for each console, and the PS3's list is pretty pathetic. Sure it's a listing of like 30 games, but only one "Final Fantasy" had any real name value. (GTA is now multi platform.)
The 360 and Wii lists were larger and had big name value. Sony is dropping the ball big time. First they force bullshit hardware upgrades on console customers (the whole point of consoles is "cheap and stupid"), then they charge a ridiculous price with promised high end game prices ($100?), and they lose all their good exclusive titles to the 360. Great job Sony. Way to piss away the market lead.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Nov. 29 2006,13:35 |
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Doing a bit more reading, reports EVERYWHERE, that the little strap that helps keep the Wiimote (I hate that) safely in your hand breaks rather easily. Many people are putting these things through their TVs.
Lawsuits pending?
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Nov. 29 2006,17:04 |
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I keep seeing some commercial for a Wii FPS game that shows the guy using the controller like a sword hilt, and it looks mighty awesome. No idea what the game is, though. I'll try to remember to make a note if I see it again and find it online for more info.
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Cakedaddy
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Posted on: Nov. 29 2006,17:53 |
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Perhaps Wii's number are up there because they did a better job of getting them to the market? I believe both systems are selling out as fast as they are shipping them here. Nintendo is just getting more into stores. I wonder if the wii would still be outselling the PS3 if there were enough of both systems to satisfy demand.
I bet all things being equal, the PS3 would be outselling the Wii as more people want the PS3.
The Wii is turning out to be way more fun than I thought it would be. I wanted my son to hold out for the PS3, but he bought the Wii. It really is a lot of fun to play with. Had it at my parents house for Thanksgiving. Fun was had by all.
The controls take some getting use to. But you can learn how to make them do what you want them to. My early experience was that it just didn't do what I wanted it to. But like anything else, you develope the skill to make it work. The Wii sports games are becoming more fun because we are getting better control of our characters. Side note though, that slashing game you see on TV, I think is called Red Steel. It's getting horrible reviews saying it's buggy and just a crappy game over all. FYI. Zelda is played with the slashing motion though. He has a sword and to use it, you slash.
I want to replace the wrist strap with something stronger. The one that's included is VERY thin and weak. About the thickness of dental floss, but the strength of a few pieces of thread. Dental floss would probably be about 7x stronger. We've lost control of controlers two times now. One stayed on the wrist, and the other, which was missing the strap at the time hit the floor after the hand holding it collided with a near by peice of furniture. So, no tv accidents yet. As far as law suit. . . People sue for anything. But really, you'll be suing someone cause your an idiot, not because of a faulty product.
And by the way, I'm not a Nintendo nut or anything. This is all just my opinion and observations. I wasn't too geeked about the Wii when he got it, but it's slowly winning me over as being a fun system to have.
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Cakedaddy
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Posted on: Nov. 29 2006,17:59 |
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And yes, little motions work. A flick of the wrist will swing the bat and pitch the ball just as fast as a full wind up and swing. But, the games are just more fun when you play 'for real'.
The strap serves little more purpose than keeping it attached to your wrist if you want to let it dangle for a bit. It's by no means a safety device. Bad move on their part to not put a better strap on it.
Oh, another fun game is Rayman: Raving Rabbids. Games are. . . different. You have to do different actions with the controlers to get the character to perform different tasks. It ends up having you do some pretty funny/wacky things. Those that can not pat their head and rub their belly at the same time will do poorly in this game. And your arms/wrists will be tired after playing.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Nov. 29 2006,21:13 |
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(Vince @ Nov. 29 2006,22:56)
QUOTE
(Cakedaddy @ Nov. 29 2006,19:53)
QUOTE Perhaps Wii's number are up there because they did a better job of getting them to the market? I believe both systems are selling out as fast as they are shipping them here. Nintendo is just getting more into stores. I wonder if the wii would still be outselling the PS3 if there were enough of both systems to satisfy demand.
I bet all things being equal, the PS3 would be outselling the Wii as more people want the PS3.. I agree with this, but I also have to wonder how much of the "Holy shit! They want HOW much?!?" factor is in there on the PS3. Not a deal breaker for probably most, but it's gotta be a factor, I'd think.
No shit. If I'm going to end up spending four figures for hardware & software, then I may as well buy a PC.
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Posted on: Nov. 30 2006,00:43 |
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(Vince @ Nov. 29 2006,23:56)
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(Cakedaddy @ Nov. 29 2006,19:53)
QUOTE Perhaps Wii's number are up there because they did a better job of getting them to the market? I believe both systems are selling out as fast as they are shipping them here. Nintendo is just getting more into stores. I wonder if the wii would still be outselling the PS3 if there were enough of both systems to satisfy demand.
I bet all things being equal, the PS3 would be outselling the Wii as more people want the PS3.. I agree with this, but I also have to wonder how much of the "Holy shit! They want HOW much?!?" factor is in there on the PS3. Not a deal breaker for probably most, but it's gotta be a factor, I'd think.
I bet it's more of a deal breaker than you think. Gramma only has a few hundred for a console for little Timmy... she aint gonna choose the PS3 and neglect her pills for osteoperosis, arthritis, and restless leg syndrome for the month.
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Posted on: Dec. 02 2006,14:38 |
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I don't think the PS3 is in any real trouble yet. This is playing out as it always does for both Nintendo and Sony.
The PS3 has the same crappy launch lineup that the PS2 and PS1 had and it didn't hurt them. Also the Wii is doing the same thing that the N64 and Gamecube did which is come out of the gate selling really well.
The N64 was killing the PS1 in the beginning and I believe the Gamecube had the best launch sales of any console at that time and both Nintendo console got their ass kicked.
I don't think right now is really all that important. It is year 2 & 3. Which is when the PS3s large number of developers starts pumping out games and the Wii owners are getting their 1st and 2nd new Nintendo games since launch.
I don't think lack of software hurts right now anyway because most people who buy consoles right at launch are just doing it to get the newest and best machine. Nintendo usually gives you one great game a launch but that is about it.
I do think the MS is fucking up somewhat. They have a year lead and second gen software should be coming out and it keeps getting delayed. 360 has one big game out for the Xmas season which is Gears of War, which for your 2nd Xmas season sucks. Halo 3 should be out now and if not that then Halo 2.5 which was canceled. They still have time because Sony won't have anything major until next Xmas but it seems like they are just sitting around twiddling their thumbs.
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Dec. 03 2006,12:03 |
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I'm still a bit surprised at the popularity of the Wii. At least a dozen people were lined up at a local Circuit City 3 hours before the store even opened.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Dec. 05 2006,07:12 |
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QUOTE I don't think the PS3 is in any real trouble yet. This is playing out as it always does for both Nintendo and Sony.
The PS3 has the same crappy launch lineup that the PS2 and PS1 had and it didn't hurt them. Also the Wii is doing the same thing that the N64 and Gamecube did which is come out of the gate selling really well.
The N64 was killing the PS1 in the beginning and I believe the Gamecube had the best launch sales of any console at that time and both Nintendo console got their ass kicked.
I don't think right now is really all that important. It is year 2 & 3. Which is when the PS3s large number of developers starts pumping out games and the Wii owners are getting their 1st and 2nd new Nintendo games since launch.
Where'd you get those facts? The PS2 sold like crazy when it came out. The "standing in line for days" started with the PS2 launch. The cube didn't sell for shit. It might have at home in Japan, but it'd do anything here. The PS2 sold something like 30 million units to the Cube and X-Box's 12 million. It was a blowout last time.
QUOTE I don't think right now is really all that important. It is year 2 & 3. Which is when the PS3s large number of developers starts pumping out games and the Wii owners are getting their 1st and 2nd new Nintendo games since launch.
I don't think lack of software hurts right now anyway because most people who buy consoles right at launch are just doing it to get the newest and best machine. Nintendo usually gives you one great game a launch but that is about it.
Well, you can't say that lack of software doesn't hurt the PS3 and then turn around in the next paragraph and say it does hurt the 360. I know it's the 2nd X-Mas for the 360, and yeah, they should have more games out by now, but perhaps they're holding them all for the PS3 2nd year? Perhaps they feel it would be better if they fight them when more of their units hit the market?
Besides, it's not the software that's out that is the problem, it's the exclusive software that's the problem. Like I said, the only major name hitting PS3 and no other console is Final Fantasy XII and I've heard rumors that might just be a release thing and it'll head to the 360 later.
The whole PS3 launch just reeks of arrogance by Sony. They felt that they had the whole market cornered and could've released a turd with PS3 stamped on it and people would buy it. That's why I'm rooting for them to do badly. Let them examine their efforts and make a bolder push to win back their fans.
If Microsoft is holding off until next Christmas so they can really take the fight to Sony, I don't think it'd be a bad strategy. Say next Christmas MS announced a huge price drop along with the release of exclusives like Halo 3. What would Sony do to counter? Their console is too new to match the price drop, and what big name games do they have to release?
Should be interesting to watch, particularly with the other sideshow MS has going on where they're trying to puch PC gaming again and link the 360 and PC worlds.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Dec. 05 2006,07:50 |
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QUOTE I agree. They need a KotOR. That sold more Xbox consoles to more people than any other title (speaking about folks I've spoken to, not any stats I've read). Bioware has Mass Effect coming out that's looking really good at this point, but it's not due out until early next year ('07).
Right now I have 4 titles for the 360. Oblivion, Saints Row, Prey and Legos Star Wars II.
Do you work for Bioware? 
Halo, by far, sold more X-Box 360s than any other game.
Believe me when I say, that is a sad fact. Halo, IMHO, is one of the most overrated games ever.
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Dec. 05 2006,08:09 |
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Wii last week: $380
Wii this week: $435
Playstation 3 last week: $1100
Playstation 3 this week: $950
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Vince
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Posted on: Dec. 05 2006,17:14 |
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(Leisher @ Dec. 05 2006,09:50)
QUOTE QUOTE I agree. Â They need a KotOR. Â That sold more Xbox consoles to more people than any other title (speaking about folks I've spoken to, not any stats I've read). Â Bioware has Mass Effect coming out that's looking really good at this point, but it's not due out until early next year ('07).
Right now I have 4 titles for the 360. Â Oblivion, Saints Row, Prey and Legos Star Wars II. Do you work for Bioware? Â Halo, by far, sold more X-Box 360s than any other game. Believe me when I say, that is a sad fact. Halo, IMHO, is one of the most overrated games ever.
I'm sure Halo has sold more, I just don't know anyone that bought an Xbox for it. I've known a couple of people that played KotOR at a friends and decided they were going to pick one up somewhere for that specific game.
Bioware should be paying me, shouldn't they? I think Bioware's done some really good stuff. Whenever they have a new release I give it a whirl, because they've exceeded most people's expectations with every release. With the exception of the OC in NWN 
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