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Leisher 
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Posted on: Oct. 31 2014,10:01 |
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Stop raising rapists.
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2014,04:54 |
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(Malcolm @ Nov. 19 2014,23:34)
QUOTE QUOTE This began a pattern of the federal government using the issue and student loan money as leverage in order to affect college administrators' behavior. Would help if an education in this country wasn't fucking obscenely expensive. Â All the fun of paying off a mortgage without the troublesome burden of a house. It's expensive exactly because it is subsidized.
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TPRJones 
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2014,10:57 |
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It's expensive because there are twice as many administrators as people actually teaching classes at most colleges these days.
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2014,11:08 |
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Which is because it is subsidized.
Businesses charge what their customers can afford. Government-backed student loans mean their customers can afford a lot more than they used to.
Edited by GORDON on Nov. 20 2014,11:09
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TPRJones 
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2014,12:08 |
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It's a feedback loop, both reasons are true. And sadly all those administrators are working 50 and 60 hour weeks because the reporting requirements keep piling up. They keep adding new things that must be done but none of the old things are ever taken away.
It's just a mess. Actual teaching and education is getting lost in the mix.
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2014,12:36 |
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BUT ANYWAY.......
Sure sucks to be a male in a college environment, eh?
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Nov. 20 2014,12:55 |
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(TPRJones @ Nov. 20 2014,15:42)
QUOTE (GORDON @ Nov. 20 2014,14:33)
QUOTE Cut the loans, and watch the colleges get back to basics go bankrupt and shut down. Fixed. Are you suggesting there were no colleges before the advent of government-backed student loans?
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TPRJones 
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Posted on: Nov. 21 2014,17:33 |
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No, I'm saying that if you think taking away the loans - and thus the money - will mean they let go of all the extra admins they can no longer pay for then you don't know anything about how government bureaucracy works.
The rest of the post you quoted is relevant to that point.
Edited by TPRJones on Nov. 21 2014,17:34
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Nov. 21 2014,19:27 |
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I can't gather enough... care... to think we need to keep shoveling mountains of debt on college graduates because the government rules require an army of administrators at the schools. Fix it all.
Loans are nice because otherwise only rich kids can afford college, but college tuition increases should have been controlled when the loans were put into effect.
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TPRJones 
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Posted on: Nov. 21 2014,19:33 |
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I don't think we need to shovel money at it anymore either. Â It's monumentally broken. Â And it's not the college grads that have massive debt that are the real problem, it's the five times as many college dropouts with massive debt and rotten job prospects that are going to completely wreck our economy in the long run. Â In no way am I saying to maintain what we are doing.
But to change it smoothly you have to start the transition with the part where you cut back tremendously on government-mandated bullshit that required the hiring of all those admins before you take away the money to pay for it. Â If you take away the money first instead, you'll essentially be shutting down the entire system. Â Unless you think you can get 50 state legislative bodies to actually do some sane legislating in a timely manner?
Personally I think the whole thing collapsing under it's own weight would probably be the best thing in the long run. Â Burn it all down and build an entirely new system from scratch.
Edited by TPRJones on Nov. 21 2014,19:34
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Nov. 21 2014,20:20 |
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Agreed. And also don't be a male on campus getting accused of rape.
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TPRJones 
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Posted on: Nov. 21 2014,20:24 |
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Perhaps just being gay for four years would solve that problem. Then one would be a member of a protected class and immune from such accusations.
I've heard being gay is a choice, after all.
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Nov. 21 2014,20:55 |
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Hmm. Since there is no defense from a rape accusation, is being gay a defense? I thin it is the ownership of the penis that makes one guilty.
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