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Leisher 
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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012,11:43 |
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Long story short, he tells Obama to release all of his college paperwork and passport paperwork, and he'll give $5,000,000 to the charity of Obama's choosing.
Trump is a nut job, but if this gets enough press, it could hurt Barry Sorento IF, and ONLY IF, there is actually something in those documents.
But again, a LOT of people will have to demand a legit answer for this to gain any credibility.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012,11:51 |
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He just has more cash than he knows what to do with. Â If there's something, a big something, in any of those docs, then they'll either never see the light of day or they've been covered up sufficiently well such that no one will be able to find anything wrong. Â That being said, Trump's a dick and I take nothing he says at face value.
Edited by Malcolm on Oct. 24 2012,11:51
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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012,12:03 |
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Yeah, like i said after the Bush National Guard Memo.... all future forgeries will be perfect.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Oct. 25 2012,07:38 |
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Obama campaign is trying to avoid the challenge by blaming Romney...
If there is even one actual journalist still working in the MSM, I hope they have a chance to ask Obama point blank why he wouldn't accept the challenge to shut Trump up and make him look like an idiot AND help a charity.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Oct. 25 2012,10:41 |
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Who the fuck watches Leno?
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Leisher
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,10:25 |
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Deadline expired.
Quite honestly, this just gives Trump credibility. Outlandish claims aside, if all you have to do to shut up someone like Trump and get $5 million for charity is show your college paperwork, why not do it?
In fact, if he shuts Trump up with those documents publicly, and everything is on the up and up, I guarantee you that he wins votes. He could go in and be as condescending to Trump as he wants and his voter base who come unhinged (in a good way) cheering him on for shutting up a right winger.
Anyone know of a legit reason why he wouldn't release his records?
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,10:28 |
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The buzz I saw from the left was, "He thinks he can boss the black President around." Spun it as a "Obama has too much dignity/Trump is a racist."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,10:52 |
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Exactly. Those aren't answers. They're bullshit spin to avoid the issue.
This guy promised the most transparent presidency in history. So far, we're seeing the least transparent.
Clinton was more honest about Monica than Obama has been about pretty much everything.
And again, by all accounts Obama has spent millions in legal fees to protect those records. What is he hiding? Meanwhile, Romney was essentially forced by pressure from the MSM and Obama to release his taxes because for some reason we need to know what he makes and how much he pays in taxes, but we don't need to know anyone's educational background...?
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,11:07 |
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"I want to avoid crazy people" is bullshit spin?
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"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,11:08 |
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I dont get why his college records matter at all?
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Leisher
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,11:43 |
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QUOTE I dont get why his college records matter at all?
Well, there's a reason he won't release them right?
According to some folks in the MSM who have looked, and some documentary film crew, nobody remembers Obama at school. Well, they remember him, but apparently he was a terrible student who rarely attended class, and spent all his time getting high.
From what I've heard, the big controversy is that he may have attended college on a foreign student aid loan/grant.
That's where this all stems from.
I don't necessarily agree that there's something to find, but I do find it interesting that he won't release the records. What's he worried about? People seeing he got bad grades? Who gives a shit?
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,12:03 |
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(Leisher @ Nov. 01 2012,13:43)
QUOTE QUOTE I dont get why his college records matter at all? Well, there's a reason he won't release them right? According to some folks in the MSM who have looked, and some documentary film crew, nobody remembers Obama at school. Well, they remember him, but apparently he was a terrible student who rarely attended class, and spent all his time getting high. From what I've heard, the big controversy is that he may have attended college on a foreign student aid loan/grant. That's where this all stems from. I don't necessarily agree that there's something to find, but I do find it interesting that he won't release the records. What's he worried about? People seeing he got bad grades? Who gives a shit?
1) There's not necessarily a reason he won't release them. Were I B-Rock and Trump made me this offer, I'd do the same thing and not respond to him. I don't buy the fact that releasing these docs wins him votes he didn't have before. I don't buy the fact that releasing them will get people off his back for everything else. Your supporters don't like seeing deal seriously with people they view as a dumbass.
2) Obama was a bad student, didn't show to class, and got wasted a lot? Sounds like Bob Dylan and 75% of the dudes I went to undergrad with.
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"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,12:12 |
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QUOTE 1) There's not necessarily a reason he won't release them. Were I B-Rock and Trump made me this offer, I'd do the same thing and not respond to him. I don't buy the fact that releasing these docs wins him votes he didn't have before. I don't buy the fact that releasing them will get people off his back for everything else. Your supporters don't like seeing deal seriously with people they view as a dumbass.
No. You're leaving off the part where he's been keeping them under wraps since before the first election. I don't give a rat's ass if your people don't cater to you dealing with the likes of Trump. They wouldn't vote for Romney if they caught you fucking their wife/husband. You need to care about indy voters.
QUOTE 2) Obama was a bad student, didn't show to class, and got wasted a lot? Sounds like Bob Dylan and 75% of the dudes I went to undergrad with.
Exactly. He's already the president, so who gives a shit? Again, his voters will still vote for him, and he'll bolster his support by standing up to the "bullies".
So what is he hiding in there? What is so damaging that he simply won't reveal them?
And this isn't some new issues that Trump dreamed up. This has been going on since the last election cycle.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,12:23 |
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QUOTE You need to care about indy voters.
I'd argue "independent" voters don't give a fuck about these docs. There's not enough of a return (not even for $5 mil for charity) for him to give a shit.
QUOTE So what is he hiding in there? What is so damaging that he simply won't reveal them?
Personally, I'd be doing it out of spite about now.
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"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
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"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2012,12:45 |
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Well, he can't release them now. Now it will hurt him as people will ask why he didn't stand up to Trump and earn some charity $5 million.
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Nov. 07 2012,10:23 |
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Always avoid crazy people.
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"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
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"Better dead than smeg."
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Leisher
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Posted on: Nov. 07 2012,11:25 |
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I actually started following Trump to see the challenge, and haven't unfollowed him yet.
Thus, I saw the tweets this morning when I logged in, and I think that article is biased. In fact, I know it is, which is why the writer talks about the rants more than shows them, so he can put them into his own context.
Besides, Trump is a self made billionaire, so call him as crazy as you want, but he has the brains to run a business, which is more than can be said for every politician walking this planet.
Oh, his challenge to Obama went up to $50 million prior to the deadline. Are we still seriously saying that it's not worth it to release those records? Call some of the dying kids that Make-A-Wish deals with and tell them that.
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