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Leisher 
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Posted on: Jul. 19 2012,11:51 |
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Yesterday, I noticed something being built around 10 minutes from my office, and was excited to see it was a Chik-Fil-A. I like their sandwiches. I know it's junk food, but something about them is good.
Anyway, today Chik-Fil-A admitted that they hate the gays.
Ugh. Now I'll have to avoid protestors just to get a tasty piece of chicken.
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Jul. 19 2012,17:16 |
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Two gay news items this week
Boy Scouts hate gays, won't include them
Owner of Chick-fil-A supports traditional marriage.
You know what? They still sell chicken to gay people, even, I imagine, gay married couples in Iowa/wherever else it's legal.
I have no problem with Chick-fil-A based on their owners beliefs. But I do have an issue with the BSA. Since I have daughters, I guess the best I can get to boycotting them is not buying their shitty overpriced popcorn.
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2012,06:54 |
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(TPRJones @ Jul. 20 2012,09:11)
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(TheCatt @ Jul. 19 2012,19:16)
QUOTE I have no problem with Chick-fil-A based on their owners beliefs. I wish I could say the same. Â I already miss those delicious sandwiches. Â But I just can't stand anyone that preaches that someone should not have the same civil rights just because they were born different.
SO... corporations ARE people, or corporations AREN'T people?
I will bet money there isn't a line in their operations guide or mission statement that says, "Don't sell to fags."
My point being, if you are going to boycott the retailer because of the opinions of the owners, then shouldn't you boycott their chicken farmers, and everyone else in their supply chain? Boycott the feed supplier that feeds the chickens? Boycott the fertilizer company that helps grow the feed? How deep are your convictions?
I don't even have a Chic-Fil-A near me, but my boy is in the BSA and I think I have said here before that I don't like how religious-y they are.
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Jul. 20 2012,09:12 |
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Corporations aren't people, but they are made of people. And usually there are some key ones in charge that make policies that effect the rest. And while I'm sure they don't have a policy to not sell to homosexuals, I wouldn't be surprised at all if there is an institutional tendency to avoid employing them. It's always been a pretty clearly religious restaurant, what with being closed on Sunday because it's the sabbath and having various biblical quotes and iconography displayed as decoration on the walls in some locations.
Anyway, I don't paint everyone involved with the brush, though. No need to try to carefully avoid everyone that has anything to do with Chik-Fil-A. Just not giving them in particular any further money is sufficient for me.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Jul. 21 2012,11:52 |
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Had to go to the mall around lunch today, couldn't resist grabbing Chick-Fil-A for lunch. It was delicious.
After digesting my meal, I don't feel like I hate gay people. Rather I feel like I'm supporting the fact that people are allowed to have differing opinions.
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Jul. 21 2012,16:35 |
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I went to Chick-fil-A for breakfast, yummy.
QUOTE First of all, Chick-fil-A is not a hate group. In a statement released yesterday, company leaders made their commitment to equal service clear, "The Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect -- regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender."
Right, this isn't the BSA wheres gays are excluded.
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2012,06:20 |
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Sure, sure, they can espouse any beliefs they want. And all because they hate fags doesn't mean they are making them eat at a different lunch counter or something. This is on the whole a much more gentlemanly fight for equal rights than it was for the African Americans back in the day. Generally the only deaths involved are bullying-induced suicides with only a small number of actual lynchings.
Still, it is also well within my rights to not give them money as long as they continue to espouse views I consider backwards, barbaric, and contemptible.
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2012,06:22 |
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But the sammitches... so yummy...
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Posted on: Jul. 25 2012,11:53 |
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Today we are at cub scout day camp.
Each little pack has a little song they sing to gain access to various places.
One of them had a song that was a derivation of Queen's 'We Will Rock You.'
It occured to me to mention that the boy scout organization dislikes gays, and by extension Freddie Mercury, but i kept it to myself.
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Leisher
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Posted on: Jul. 26 2012,08:52 |
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I've got a pretty big debate going on FB with some random over this issue.
Why do people think it's disgusting to not believe in same sex marriage, but acceptable to force your beliefs upon people?
How do they not see the irony?
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Jul. 26 2012,12:18 |
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I'm trying to understand that, Leisher. Are you saying they are not only advocating same-sex marriage should be legal, but further saying that straight people must get married to someone of the same sex?
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Leisher
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Posted on: Jul. 26 2012,13:51 |
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No TPR, they're saying if you don't agree then you don't have the right to exist.
This whole Chick-Fil-A fiasco is a great example of it. Chick-Fil-A doesn't have a policy of not hiring gay people. They also don't have a policy stating they won't serve gay people. What their company president did was state that they don't believe in gay marriage.
In response, they've been called bigots, told they need to shut the fuck up, they've been asked to leave cities, they're facing protests, and politicians have gone on record as saying they will attempt to block new Chick-Fil-As from being built in their areas.
I guess freedom of speech only applies if the person listening agrees with the person speaking?
It's very similar to the issue of race in this country. How do you get a majority of the population to accept the minority? Do you reward good behavior and educate? Nah. You create racist programs at every turn and punish anyone who dares not meet your quotas. It creates more animosity, more hatred.
Look, I'm pro-gay marriage. I thought Chick-Fil-A going public with that statement was REALLY fucking stupid from a business stand point. I also don't have a problem with anyone personally boycotting Chick-Fil-A. What I do not advocate is people trying to hurt them just because they have a different point of view on a social issue.
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Posted on: Jul. 26 2012,14:32 |
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Ah, in that case I agree with you to a certain extent. Â I do think their position is rather despicable and bigoted and I don't intend to eat there. Â And I think a few protests against their stance are certainly reasonable, given that Chik-Fil-A has done more than just talk the talk, they have also donated funds to various conservative organizations some of which are fighting to keep that bigoted stance codified as law. Â But some of the response - especially that of the mayor of Boston who is using governmental bureaucracy to punish them - is also despicable. Â
I have absolutely no problem with a person that says "I think gay marriage is wrong so I will not marry someone of my own gender." I do have a problem with people that say "I think gay marriage is wrong so I won't let other people marry someone of their own gender." Chik-Fil-A has every right to hold that position and espouse it publicly if they wish, and people have a right to be angry about it and protest and boycott if they wish, but the mayor of Boston and other such politicians have absolutely no right to abuse their power thus.
Edited by TPRJones on Jul. 26 2012,14:35
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TheCatt
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Posted on: Aug. 02 2012,16:55 |
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Want to post something like "Chick-Fil-A: Still can't vote in 50 states" on my FB... so f'ing tired of the posts.
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