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PostIcon Posted on: Apr. 21 2010,06:27  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/04/19/our-tech-savvy-supreme-court/

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According to the story, the first sign of trouble came was about midway through the argument, when Chief Justice John Roberts asked what the difference was “between email and a pager?” (Cue sound of hard slap against forehead.)


Reminds me of "a series of tubes."

At least he asked.  Didn't just assume he knew.

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Wow.

I followed the link that had more details, and came across this:
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But then think about it in your own context. Do you assume that your employer is reviewing every text you send from your work phone? Is it fair for your employer to look at every email that goes out from your work computer? Does it matter whether it’s going from your work account or your personal gmail account?

1) I would never send a text from my work phone.
2) I limit all personal activity on work computers.  In fact, not only do I have a smart phone for email/web browsing/texting; I have my own personal laptop and cellular internet account at work.

Seriously?  Texting from your work phone?  Are you retarded?

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According to the story, the first sign of trouble came was about midway through the argument, when Chief Justice John Roberts asked what the difference was “between email and a pager?” (Cue sound of hard slap against forehead.)

It could have been a rhetorical question.  Or maybe a legal one.

If I were a journalist, I wouldn't be mocking other people's ignorance of technical matters.  Well, I guess actually I *would*, since as a journalist I would believe I'm one of the smartest people in the world.

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It could have been a rhetorical question.  Or maybe a legal one.

Nope.  I listen to some law oriented podcasts, and the people on it have so far always been excruciatingly fair in how they report these sorts of things, enough so that I trust them.  They did a piece on this and had someone there from the day and apparently it's pretty much exactly as it's been made out to be.  The justices honestly have zero understanding of any of these technological concepts.  They may be legal geniuses, but they seem to be unable to grasp these sorts of basic modern ideas when explained to them.  

You know, like Congressmen.

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As an example, here's another fun quote:

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At one point, Justice Anthony Kennedy asked what would happen if a text message was sent to an officer at the same time he was sending one to someone else.

“Does it say: ‘Your call is important to us, and we will get back to you?’” Kennedy asked.


Please note this was after basic attempts at explanations had been made, and made again, at least according to testimony on the podcast I listened to about the incident..

There's more like this.  I don't know how counsel was able to keep from giggling.

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Shit like that ought to bar you from making any decisions that impact said technology.  The legal system in this country continues to drag its knuckles along the ground.

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http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/04/19/our-tech-savvy-supreme-court/

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According to the story, the first sign of trouble came was about midway through the argument, when Chief Justice John Roberts asked what the difference was “between email and a pager?” (Cue sound of hard slap against forehead.)


Reminds me of "a series of tubes."

At least he asked.  Didn't just assume he knew.

Okay, Roberts isn't that much older than us, and he's used both over the years, I'm quite sure.

I took that question to probably be in a legal context.  What's the difference between the two as far as the job is concerned.  In other words, what's your stated difference that makes a pager off limits but email isn't (as has been previously decided by the court).
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Let's remember this is the same government that granted a patent for the ingenious invention of "click one button to buy things on the internet" functionality.  There's also another for a two-click version from another company (because the other one sued them, claiming that they had invented one-click buying).  The higher-up legal minds of this country apparently do know next to nothing about technology past steam engine.

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