Search Members Help

» Welcome Guest
[ Log In :: Register ]

Page 1 of 3123>>

[ Track This Topic :: Email This Topic :: Print this topic ]

 reply to topic new topic new poll
Topic: This Iran Thing< Next Oldest | Next Newest >
 Post Number: 1
GORDON Search for posts by this member.
90%
Avatar



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 36125
Joined: Jun. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 20 2009,15:00  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Watching the protests, the masses, the mobs, the riots, against their government.

I'm a little jealous.  The first step is always the hardest.

Here's cheers, and I hope y'all can keep your momentum and actually change something.

--------------
I don't give a fuck!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 2
Malcolm Search for posts by this member.
I disagree.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 27168
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 20 2009,18:19 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

(GORDON @ Jun. 20 2009,17:00)
QUOTE
Here's cheers, and I hope y'all can keep your momentum and actually change something.

To quote Dave Lister, "Not a dog's chance in hell."

--------------
Diogenes of Sinope:

"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."

"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."

Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:

"Better dead than smeg."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 3
GORDON Search for posts by this member.
90%
Avatar



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 36125
Joined: Jun. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 20 2009,20:03 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
I don't know.  I saw Iraq's government change in my lifetime.  And Afghanistan's.  And the Soviet Union's.  And Yugoslavia's.  And The Socialist States of Obama's.

Edited by GORDON on Jun. 20 2009,20:03

--------------
I don't give a fuck!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 4
TPRJones Search for posts by this member.
I saw The Fault in our Stars opening night.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 12384
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,08:20 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
There's a lot of online technical support to assist the protestors with communication and coordination.  It might be enough to help them keep going with this.  We'll see.

http://iran.whyweprotest.net/

--------------
Vidi Perfutui Veni
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 5
TPRJones Search for posts by this member.
I saw The Fault in our Stars opening night.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 12384
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,09:29 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Somewhat NSFW (clip from CNN; blood, death):

http://paulocoelhoblog.com/2009/06/22/iran-by-neda/

--------------
Vidi Perfutui Veni
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 6
Malcolm Search for posts by this member.
I disagree.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 27168
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,09:45 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
I ain't counting success till the Iranian prez & his advisers are permanently removed.

A few strategically placed illegal arms shipments in that country could do wonders right about now.

--------------
Diogenes of Sinope:

"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."

"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."

Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:

"Better dead than smeg."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 7
TPRJones Search for posts by this member.
I saw The Fault in our Stars opening night.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 12384
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,09:56 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jun. 22 2009,11:45)
QUOTE
I ain't counting success till the Iranian prez & his advisers are permanently removed.

If I'm understanding the garbled Google translations right on what's coming out of Iran right now, it's gone beyond that.  Who is President is no longer much of an issue.  Apparently there's some sort of major split among the ayatollahs, with those wanting to return to a more pure theocracy without all these silly elections backing the sitting Pres, and those wanting to move forward to a western democracy and get away from religious law backing the other guy.  None of the major players wants to go back to the way things were before the election, they're both pulling towards the extremes.

And the Iranian people are caught in the middle.  As usual.

--------------
Vidi Perfutui Veni
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 8
Malcolm Search for posts by this member.
I disagree.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 27168
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,10:05 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Makes it an even better time to pick off some troublesome fundie psychos over there, then.

--------------
Diogenes of Sinope:

"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."

"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."

Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:

"Better dead than smeg."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 9
GORDON Search for posts by this member.
90%
Avatar



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 36125
Joined: Jun. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,10:28 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jun. 22 2009,12:45)
QUOTE
A few strategically placed illegal arms shipments in that country could do wonders right about now.

The Leader of the Free World can't even bring himself to say "tyrants are bad," so I don't think we'll be sending any help.

--------------
I don't give a fuck!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 10
TPRJones Search for posts by this member.
I saw The Fault in our Stars opening night.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 12384
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,10:45 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Today in Tehran.

Got to be honest, I don't think we should.  If they do this themselves it will be a lot more ... lasting.  

Now, if we were to sneak in and secretly assassinate a few key people and make it look like their own people did it, as long as NO ONE ever finds out about it that would probably help.

--------------
Vidi Perfutui Veni
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 11
Malcolm Search for posts by this member.
I disagree.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 27168
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,11:03 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

(TPRJones @ Jun. 22 2009,12:45)
QUOTE
Now, if we were to sneak in and secretly assassinate a few key people and make it look like their own people did it, as long as NO ONE ever finds out about it that would probably help.

Hell, yeah.  It's understood that no one ever finds out about it.  Surest way for us to kill the rebellion is to support them openly.

--------------
Diogenes of Sinope:

"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."

"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."

Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:

"Better dead than smeg."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 12
TPRJones Search for posts by this member.
I saw The Fault in our Stars opening night.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 12384
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,11:10 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
It's refreshing to hear marching protesters in Iran shouting something besides "Death to America".  From what I've read the top three chants are currently "Death to the Dictator", "Do Not be Afraid", and "Where is Neda".

http://www.cnn.com/video....osearch

--------------
Vidi Perfutui Veni
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 13
GORDON Search for posts by this member.
90%
Avatar



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 36125
Joined: Jun. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,11:15 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

(TPRJones @ Jun. 22 2009,13:45)
QUOTE
Got to be honest, I don't think we should.  If they do this themselves it will be a lot more ... lasting.  

So we've replaced our long standing tradition of support, even when only verbal, of those who would stand up with tyranny with.... we're afraid of our own shadows.  Lovely.  That's great progress.

--------------
I don't give a fuck!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 14
TPRJones Search for posts by this member.
I saw The Fault in our Stars opening night.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 12384
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,11:30 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

(GORDON @ Jun. 22 2009,13:15)
QUOTE

(TPRJones @ Jun. 22 2009,13:45)
QUOTE
Got to be honest, I don't think we should.  If they do this themselves it will be a lot more ... lasting.  

So we've replaced our long standing tradition of support, even when only verbal, of those who would stand up with tyranny with.... we're afraid of our own shadows.  Lovely.  That's great progress.

Sorry for being unclear, I was refering to the "help" part of your statement.  I'm all for denouncing them.  I'd need to consider the ramifications, but I think I'd also be in favor of stationing troops all around their borders and providing support to those individuals trying to get out that ask for our help.

But without first having some official or widespread grassroots request for help from inside Iran itself I think driving into Tehran in tanks would do far more harm than good at this point.

Edited by TPRJones on Jun. 22 2009,11:32

--------------
Vidi Perfutui Veni
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 15
thibodeaux Search for posts by this member.
RAG
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 6494
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,11:39 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Iran is lucky we don't have a huge military presence in any of the countries on their borders.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 16
Malcolm Search for posts by this member.
I disagree.
Avatar



Group: Privateers
Posts: 27168
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,13:44 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
If there is an Islamic jihad apocalypse scenario, it might start like this.  Let's see if this "global" fundamentalist uprising they've been threatening for years actually happens.  If not, we'll just have to dismantle each psycho state in turn.  Might take a couple centuries, though.

--------------
Diogenes of Sinope:

"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."

"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."

Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:

"Better dead than smeg."
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 17
GORDON Search for posts by this member.
90%
Avatar



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 36125
Joined: Jun. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 22 2009,15:12 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
You know, the joke used to be, "Uh oh, they messed up... now we're going to send them a strongly worded letter."  Obama won't even go that far.

What a leader.

Better get nationalized health care passed.

Edited by GORDON on Jun. 22 2009,15:12

--------------
I don't give a fuck!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 18
GORDON Search for posts by this member.
90%
Avatar



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 36125
Joined: Jun. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 23 2009,21:19 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
The Nanny State isn't afraid to meddle.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world....plomats

--------------
I don't give a fuck!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 19
Leisher Search for posts by this member.
Top 3%, yo.
Avatar



Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 26651
Joined: May 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 24 2009,05:24 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
This whole situation has got to be a nightmare for Obama's re-election staff.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 20
Troy Search for posts by this member.





Group: Privateers
Posts: 3857
Joined: Jun. 2004
PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 24 2009,06:14 Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE
I'm sorry guys, but I just don't get it.

Why on earth do you think that we can:

1)Afford to do dick about the situation, the whole point was the pull troops and hopefully cut expenses. You know, to pay for things like fixing banks, economy and health care, you know, stuff we actually care about.

2) Want to help the "oppositions" (same fucking guy) with basically the same beliefs. The last time we did this, didn't the majority party go "hey look America is helping the opposition, if your with the opposition you're with America" and that pretty much ended the whole thing.  That was even pre- "everyone hates America" era.

Edited by Troy on Jun. 24 2009,06:17
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
59 replies since Jun. 20 2009,15:00 < Next Oldest | Next Newest >

[ Track This Topic :: Email This Topic :: Print this topic ]


Page 1 of 3123>> 		reply to topic new topic new poll

» Quick Reply This Iran Thing
iB Code Buttons
You are posting as:

Do you wish to enable your signature for this post?
Do you wish to enable emoticons for this post?
Track this topic
View All Emoticons
View iB Code