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Cakedaddy 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,13:37 |
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Could you get someone in trouble by cutting a silhouette of a handgun out of tin foil and then putting that into a book that someone is going to take on an airplane? Or a notebook in their laptop bag. When it gets x-rayed, would it be obvious it's not a gun? Too thin to register?
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TPRJones 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,13:41 |
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Considering that you can't wear a t-shirt with a picture of a sci-fi gun on it onto a plane, I think it's safe to say your concealed gun-shaped piece of metal will be considered a serious attempt to hijack the plane. Only do it to someone you want to see in prison.
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Paul 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,13:42 |
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I think it may register as a shadow, but not as a solid object, so it would obviously not be a gun. But yeah, they'd still hunt it down because I don't think you're even supposed to have toy guns. Plus, even though it would be obvious to a person of average intelligence that it was not a weapon, I don't think it' would be obvious to the people working at the airport.
Edited by Paul on Dec. 16 2013,17:22
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Malcolm 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,13:55 |
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QUOTE Considering that you can't wear a t-shirt with a picture of a sci-fi gun on it onto a plane, I think it's safe to say your concealed gun-shaped piece of metal will be considered a serious attempt to hijack the plane. That's the UK.
QUOTE Could you get someone in trouble by cutting a silhouette of a handgun out of tin foil and then putting that into a book that someone is going to take on an airplane? Yes. I'm pretty sure the "zucchini in tinfoil" thing from Spinal Tap would get you arrested.
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Malcolm 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,14:17 |
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(TPRJones @ Dec. 16 2013,16:10)
QUOTE (Malcolm @ Dec. 16 2013,15:55)
QUOTE That's the UK. When it comes to airport security, is there really any difference these days? Oh yes. They're far more strict. They tend to be nicer about it, though.
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,15:13 |
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Make an aluminum cutout of a gun. Cut the cutout into different, non-gunnny shapes.
Put the individual pieces in the pages of a book... layed out just so so an xray would see a gun, but when the bag/book is searched, there is nothing that is gun-shaped.
Flip off the TSA on the way out.
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,17:13 |
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Yeah... that's why I can't fly any more. I haven't flown since the cancer scanner/or grope option went in. I am not willing to take a bite out of the shit sandwich any more.
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Paul 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,17:24 |
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If you want to bully people around but you're not smart enough to be a police officer (or can't pass the psychological test) then you become a security guard, like the ones at the airport. So yeah, you're in for bad times if you screw with them.
They look for excuses, and a gun shaped thing is a beautiful excuse.
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,17:46 |
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Yeah but I also don't want anyone groping him.
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Paul 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,17:51 |
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No searches. You both walk through the metal detector. I think any kid under 12, and the accompanying adult both only get the metal detector.
At least that was the case in the three airports I remember going through.
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Malcolm 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,19:13 |
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I only have to walk through the metal detector.
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GORDON 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,19:14 |
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Have the naked rape cancer scanners been removed from everywhere?
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Malcolm 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,19:18 |
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(GORDON @ Dec. 16 2013,21:14)
QUOTE Have the naked rape cancer scanners been removed from everywhere? When going through security, I can tell which lines go to which variety of machine that provides a false sense of security, so it's half and half. I had some kind of liquid-hand-wipe test last time, presumably to check if I'm a human ignition system or I've been handling various blow-uppy chems recently. No more annoying than using a moist toilette after eating wings. I was entirely willing to trade that for not taking out my laptop and leaving on my shoes. It's not breaching Byzantine's most inner wall, but it's cracking the outermost ones.
-------------- Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Paul 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,21:19 |
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I had my bag swapped at the Burbank airport once. I had to stand there as they opened the bag.
It tested positive for gunpowder, but I told them I shoot guns in my back yard, and they let me go without any more searching.
My "best" security experience was within a year or two of 9/11. My drivers license had expired and the people in Burbank wouldn't let me use it, so I had to go to the "special screening" area.
It ends up there was no line there. I walked through a metal detector and they gave me a quick pat down. My daughter was with me and she got a half hearted pat down too. It took 3 minutes to go through the special section rather than the 20 minutes it would have taken in the real line.
Plus, since they let me know that my license had expired I was able to get it renewed one day before the grace period had ended, so I only had to pay the renewal fee rather than retake the test.
Edited by Paul on Dec. 16 2013,21:20
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TPRJones 
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2013,21:32 |
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If I ever try to fly again I'll probably end up on the news with my pants around my ankles screaming "YOU WANT TO SEE MY JUNK, HERE IT IS!!" at the TSA agents.
Although being on the no-fly lists is also an issue.
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Malcolm 
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2013,09:52 |
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I have come up with a proper name for the TSA agents. "Reject rent-a-cop" is still accurate, but I like "hall monitor" better.
-------------- Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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