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Posted on: Oct. 19 2010,07:43 |
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The first $200 has been spent, all on lumber and some concrete screws. Â Phase one is to frame in a few walls, leaving it all open to run wiring. Â Phase 1 ends when my $250 budget runs out, then I can save up for phase 2.
Already had all of my own tools, and some faint memories of how to build stuff. Â Last time I did any major construction, I was about 17. Â Going to separate off half the basement and build it into a man cave. Â The other half of the basement is the washer and dryer and stuff... woman's bidness.
These are the before pics, right before I cut the first board:
Looking to the right from where the door will be:
That off-white rectangle high on the wall is styrofoam covering the entrance to the crawl space that contained that big ass hornet nest. Â Black tape on floor is where I am putting the wall. Â Tape was to help visualize during the brainstorming phase. Â I also installed those glass block windows myself the first year I moved in. Â Used to have ancient glass pane windows, and I was getting snow drifts inside the sill that first winter. Â The tiny hole to the left of the window is where an outside spigot used to run. Â Last year when I decided I was going to do this project, I moved that spigot higher so the plumbing wouldn't be in the way of my wall. Â Was part of a different project to fix a burst copper pipe, so I was doing a plumbing project, anyway.
Black thing on wall is access to a different crawl space. Â My house is a hodgepodge of room additions, and I have 4 separate crawl spaces with the only access to each from the basement.
Looking left from the door, my pile of lumber. Â 50 2x4's, 5 sheets 3/4" ODB plywood. Â I chose the ODB because it was less than half the price of regular plywood... and I figure with the money saved I could actually double it up on the unfinished side if I want further sound proofing. Â Also 4 2x2 squares of underlayment, to go unter the wall, in case the basement seeps. Â It has a rubber coating with feet on the bottom so if my basement does spring a leak somewhere, it won't get the wood wet. Â I'll post pics of that in the next post. You can see them from the side in the bottom left of the pic, leaning up against some stuff.
I already have a day of work done, but I am just now getting around to making this post.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Oct. 19 2010,12:57 |
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This is what I actually got done last night.
Base plate and underlayment, a few studs.
Crippler studs and top plate.
I left a little notch in the top corner so I could run conduit. Â I plan on lots of Cat-5e and speaker cable going through the room, and I want it to be future proofed.
Anchored to the basement floor with Tapcons.
This is the underlayment. Â It comes in 2x2' squares, about 7 dollars per. Â I may or may not do the entire floor with those... kinda pricey at 17' x 12'.
Looking back at this pics, I see some small mistakes I have made... I am thinking "Why did I do it that way?" Â Seemed right at the time.... I'm pretty out of practice, but it isn't like this is a load bearing wall. Â Hell with it.
I have gotten more done this afternoon. Â Pics later.
Edited by GORDON on Oct. 19 2010,13:20
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Posted on: Oct. 19 2010,16:58 |
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Here's today's progress. Â The wall to the right of the doorway is done, except for sound proofing (which will probably just be another layer of 3/4" OSB, possibly sandwiching a sheet of drywall. Â I read that works well).
This is the unfinished side facing the man cave. Â Again, leaving it open for the running of wires.
The open spaces at the top of the new plywood aren't really open. Â There's a floor joist up there. Â I will probably stuff that area with insulation and put a strip of plywood straddling those 2 joists for further sound proofing.
The black line on the floor is the other part of the wall... on the docket for tomorrow. Â I will also be enclosing a small room down there for a pantry (and it also contains the house demarc). Â I will need to move one of the fluorescent lights into the pantry... I may also do that tomorrow if the existing wiring is long enough. Â If I need to buy more wire it won't be done this week.
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Posted on: Oct. 19 2010,18:14 |
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How come you are using plywood instead of drywall?
You sure do have a lot of Berk-Tek in that last pic. . .
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Posted on: Oct. 19 2010,18:17 |
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Sound proofing. There will be layers.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Oct. 20 2010,20:14 |
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Had distractions today, so didn't get a ton done.
This is the same wall opposite of where the door will be. Â Base plate/underlayment is in place and achored to the floor. Â The stud against the wall is anchored down. Â Have the top plate in place. Â All that is really left is to put in a couple studs.
Because of the overhead air ducts, the ceiling on this side of the room will be coffered by about a foot. Â This is the side I planned on having the big screen TV, so it will work out well.
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Posted on: Oct. 21 2010,17:44 |
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Another fuller schedule today, so not a lot done, but here it is:
"Main Wall," opposite side of the door.
The header over the doorway is kind of funky, but that is a cold air return vent and it has exactly 6'2" of clearance. Â I was trying to leave as much room as possible for whatever ceiling/door frame ends up going there. Â Door is probably going to be custom, since they don't make pre-hung doors 6'2" high. Â I'm thinking of recreating the Tardis out there... see, you walk in and it's bigger on the inside.... Â Â
The area where those racks are is going to be the pantry. Â That is the next set of walls I'm building, hopefully tomorrow.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Oct. 22 2010,20:36 |
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Worked on it a couple hours this afternoon, and then a few hours this evening.
This is the pantry/demarc area. Â I had a basic idea of what I wanted to do, but hadn't gone as far as planning the details of it, so I spent a good hour today figuring out how I should proceed.
The original plan called for a door, but I didn't like how small and confined it was when I laid it out that way, so I decided to skip the door and bring the wall out at an angle. Â This gives me a basic enclosure for food stuffs and network equipment, yet is still open and easy to access. Â I will be finishing the walls inside as this area is directly between the furnace and the man cave... noisy when it kicks on and is blowing air. Â A couple finished walls should deaden most of the noise.
That's the house demarcation point (demarc) in there. Â Phone, cable TV, and internet all come into the house at that point and I have them split off from there. Â The switch is dangling from the wall. Â It slipped its screws when I leveled that existing wall. Â The big white thing on its own shelf on the left is the dehumidifier. Â It has been sitting on a box for about 2 years since the basement was waterproofed... I finally have a permanent spot for it.
This is the wall to the right of the entrance to the pantry, and the man cave behind and to the right.
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Posted on: Oct. 24 2010,19:12 |
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If you think insulation will deaden sound you will be wasting your money. It really doesn't. You might want to look into other options. I have none to give but know for a fact insulation is a waste.
Without looking it up what does OSB mean?
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Posted on: Oct. 25 2010,14:35 |
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If you can pull a vacuum in the middle, that would be the best sound-proofing possible.
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Posted on: Oct. 25 2010,15:43 |
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Where's the lotion and/or basket?
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GORDON
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Posted on: Oct. 25 2010,18:12 |
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You're an amateur if you need a dedicated room for your raping.
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Posted on: Oct. 26 2010,01:23 |
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Oriented Strand Board.
I have 2 sliding closet doors down here next to the truck if you can recycle them in your room.
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Posted on: Oct. 26 2010,11:27 |
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(GORDON @ Oct. 26 2010,06:21)
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(unkbill @ Oct. 26 2010,04:23)
QUOTE I have 2 sliding closet doors down here next to the truck if you can recycle them in your room. Maybe not in the basement but talk to my wife, we have a lot of doorless closets in the house. Â I won't be back to town until tomorrow afternoon.
Won't be back in town untill Nov 19 help yourself they might not stay good in this weather.
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Posted on: Oct. 26 2010,21:26 |
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Having been in insulated attics trying to drop cable down through a wall and trying to communicate with the person below you. . . I can assure you, insulating is a VERY good sound proofer. Screaming as loud as I could, and the person still couldn't hear my instructions.
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I had an extended project come up at the end of October, and by the time it ended in December I had lost my momentum.... but I was always thinking about it. Â Specifically, whether or not I trusted the basement waterproofing company I hired, "Everdry," to have done a good job laying down new concrete on the floor along the wall where they put in new drainage tile. Â The concrete they put down developed hairline cracks every 4 feet or so, and it sounds very thin when I walk on it.
In the end I decided I didn't trust it enough to anchor the wall plates with the Tapcons, and made the decision to put the underlayment down on the entire floor. Â It is doubling my materials cost, but I just think that concrete is too thin to take the torque of a Tapcon without crumbling. Â
I had another $100 in the budget a few weeks ago, so I bought a couple new tools and $80 worth of underlayment. Â I got the first row down against the concrete wall, and framed most of a new wall:
The little window-looking thing is a crawl space access. Â I am going to frame the inside with a 1x10, and then I can build a real weather-sealed access panel. Â As it is a get breezes from the crawl space.
I was only using the existing 2x4's I had, so I had to skip a few studs, because I really need to get the other crawl space access weather sealed. Â It is covered with black plastic held on with duct tape, but it gets so cold the duct tape stops sticking and then I have strong, cold wind pouring into the basement. Â As it is I go down twice a day to restick the tape with the heat from my hands.
I used my last 6 2x4's to get it to the point where I am ready to go get the finishing stuff for that access hatch. Â
I mentioned the underlayment...
2x2 foot squares, the last batch I bought were $6 each. Â I have to prop up a portion that you can see that picture because the basement floor tilts to drain leaking water into a sump that is on the other side of that wall.
So that is it for now. I have no uncut boards in the basement. I'll post again when the next bit starts, which will hopefully be soon.
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