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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,10:53 |
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It hasn't been brought up here, and probably rightly so. I needed a little time to crystallize my own thoughts about it.
In my opinion, there shouldn't be a law stopping its construction, and government should not try to stop it.
BUT, whoever is responsible for building it MUST know by now how it is being perceived as a "9/11 Victory Mosque," and if they really cared about improving Islam's image in this nation, they would gracefully back away from it. Islam's stock would rise a lot in this country with a simple, "Sorry, we didn't realize the effect this would have on y'all." Hell, support for the mosque would probably rise at that point, for more than one reason.
There shouldn't be a law against it, but the apparent intent of it at that location should not be dismissed.
In my opinion.
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,11:02 |
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I'd agree with that opinion.
The government should absolutely not be involved, but the people behind the mosque shouldn't be drawing lines in the sand, particularly there...
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Leisher
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,11:20 |
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(TheCatt @ Aug. 18 2010,14:06)
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(Leisher @ Aug. 18 2010,14:02)
QUOTE ...the people behind the mosque shouldn't be drawing lines in the sand... Racist.
Ha! I didn't even think about that when I wrote it.
Which is more racist? Writing that or implying/believing that all Muslims live in the desert?
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,11:37 |
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Much as I hate to cite the Catholic Church for proper procedures, once upon a time some nuns wanted to put up a nun recruitment center or something similar near the site of a Nazi concentration camp. The pope stepped in & put a stop to it, rightly so.
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,12:03 |
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1) It's not a mosque, it's a community center. Â Like a YMCA for muslims. Â That's a big difference, IMO.
2) The reason it's not a mosque and the reason they want to build it there is because it's intended to support one of the largest mosques in New York city. Â Which is already only a block-and-a-half away from that location. Â And was there a couple of decades before the towers were originally built.
This whole thing is just an excuse for conservative Christian assholes to be self-righteous and make more Osama/Obama jokes.
In my opinion.
Edited by TPRJones on Aug. 18 2010,12:05
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,13:11 |
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All practical considerations notwithstanding, it looks damn bad. Bad enough that it might not be worth the trouble.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,16:19 |
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(TPRJones @ Aug. 18 2010,15:03)
QUOTE This whole thing is just an excuse for conservative Christian assholes to be self-righteous and make more Osama/Obama jokes.
For the record, you're the first person in this thread to mention Obama.
Yeah, Obama expressed his opinion about this issue, and that is one of his problems. He keeps sharing his opinion about controversial issues that are really none of his business. When he does that, he just pisses off half the country who now think, right or wrong, "there's another reason this man is an idiot."
Not his job. Keeping his mouth shut would make everyone think he is wise... talking about it just proves to half the people how stupid he is.
In my opinion.
By the way, notice the new Obama-lover meme is "Obama is so unpopular because he does the right thing instead of the popular thing." Started seeing that idea everywhere, yesterday. Must have been another memo.
Hey, look at me, derailing the thread. Stop it.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,16:48 |
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Whew, our government is on it:
Pelosi wants to spend public money to investigate people opposed to the project.
http://www.foxnews.com/politic....-decide
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2010,18:19 |
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(GORDON @ Aug. 18 2010,18:19)
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QUOTE This whole thing is just an excuse for conservative Christian assholes to be self-righteous and make more Osama/Obama jokes. For the record, you're the first person in this thread to mention Obama.
Sure, but that comment wasn't directed at people here.
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Posted on: Aug. 19 2010,15:49 |
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That kind of thing should be marketed a bit.
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Posted on: Aug. 19 2010,15:50 |
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As for Obama he spoke his mind and it was twisted out of shape for other people causes. The buck stops here. He said the same thing I do. He said they have the right. He didn't say it might not be a good idea. Religius freedom. Even for none believers. Which seems to be the way it is going. One nation under God. Can I say that?
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Posted on: Aug. 19 2010,16:33 |
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(unkbill @ Aug. 19 2010,19:29)
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QUOTE That kind of thing should be marketed a bit. Fine how do I make money on it? Just being Funny, or American.
Islam has an image problem. A local mosque showing they are not beholden to the more extreme, oppressive aspects of the religion would be good PR in general.
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Posted on: Aug. 19 2010,16:57 |
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(GORDON @ Aug. 19 2010,16:33)
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QUOTE That kind of thing should be marketed a bit. Fine how do I make money on it? Just being Funny, or American. Islam has an image problem. Â A local mosque showing they are not beholden to the more extreme, oppressive aspects of the religion would be good PR in general.
I agree. how do I make money from it? Just kidding, Guess I will just have to do it word of mouth, like here. I am tired of taking my kites to the hot as hell festival tent. But Wati is there cooking food. Introduced a knew concept to them this year. The reason my wifes booth makes the most money is she gets all the shit donated. They don't charge the Mosque for the meats or anything like the other countries do so they break even. Amagine that giving more to charity than time. I am very proud of her because that is what she wants to do. Wish Ramadon would end so I could eat before 830 at night. I eat during the day but can't bring myself to eat in front of someone fasting. I know I am a wusy.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Aug. 19 2010,17:01 |
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NAh, that's class.
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TPRJones
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2010,14:11 |
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I never expected to string these particular words together anytime soon: I think Roger Ebert is right.
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