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Forum: Movies, Television, Books (Does anyone still read?) Topic: The Dark Knight Returns started by: GORDON Posted by GORDON on Jul. 13 2006,15:03
I swear to god, this comic should be required reading.Batman is retired, crime rates grow and grow in Gotham. Officials blame poverty. Batman comes out of retirement, starts cleaning up the gangs. Officials claim all crime is now inspired by/or the result of Batman's interference. Mayor of Gotham meets with gang leader to declare a truce. Gang leader immediately rips out mayor's throat with his teeth before the first word is said. New mayor immediately states, "We are still willing to negotiate!" Batman continuously blamed for the crime, even though Gotham is now the only major city in the country not rioting (due to other plot lines). Batman is now wanted on murder charges. It was written long before George W, but reads like an extremely prescient roadmap to the world of today. There's even an airliner crashing into a skyscraper. I swear to god, this comic should be required reading. Posted by Leisher on Jul. 13 2006,17:36
Yes, it is quite awesome. What's next on your reading list? Posted by Vince on Jul. 16 2006,09:20
I'm so proud
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 17 2006,06:44
I read the sequel, "The Dark Knight Strikes Back" right after, but truth be told I went through it so fast nothing much comes back to me... besides the Superman/Wonder Woman sex that caused the tidal wave.The "shadow government" stuff was interesting, though. Posted by Leisher on Jul. 17 2006,06:59
The sequel wasn't as good. Funny you mention the politics though. I was reading an interview with a comic creator who happens to be helming Batman right now and he said the The Dark Knight Returns is very tough for him to read as a "left wing liberal" (his words). He praised it highly though and said it's one of the all time great stories. Now whether it was tough to read because it goes against his politics or because it's such a great example of how his politics are wrong... Posted by thibodeaux on Jul. 17 2006,09:13
Or maybe it's tough for him to read because he's borderline illiterate, being a left-wing comic-book writer, and thus completely stupid.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 17 2006,10:21
I have no idea who you're attacking there. Everyone? Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 17 2006,11:01
I think just left-wingers and stupid people, although those groups do have a huge percentage of overlap.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jul. 17 2006,12:52
That's what I'm saying:Comic book writer = probably not very good at anything in school Left wing = probably not very good at thinking, period Left-wing comic-book-writer = teh stupid Posted by Vince on Jul. 17 2006,16:18
This one's always been hard for me. I look at it almost the same as people saying Unbreakable wasn't as good as The Sixth Sense. It was a completely different movie, and I think people were expecting almost a sequel to The Sixth Sense (keeping that in mind one could argue the merits of each movie). Now granted, with The Dark Knight Strikes Back actually being a sequel it's understandable that people would expect it to be more like a sequel, but it was pretty much an entirely different mindset to the writing. Also, I read in a couple of places that Frank Miller was on the verge of being invited to his very own alcohol intervention by his friends and family when he wrote the second one. Posted by GORDON on Jul. 18 2006,15:19
Is there a sequel to The Dark Knight Strikes Back?
Posted by Vince on Jul. 18 2006,17:06
No, but it took, like... 15 years for Miller to make the first sequel.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jul. 18 2006,19:45
I always liked The Long Halloween.
I felt that it was more of a comment on right wing politics with the jabs at Regan and Superman. Posted by Leisher on Aug. 08 2008,10:52
Frank Miller told Zack Snyder (300, Watchmen) at SDCC that he was welcome to make "The Dark Knight Returns" anytime he wants. On top of that, rumors are everywhere that things seem to be falling into place perfectly for an adaptation of Miller's work. I vote for Bruce Campbell to play the older Superman. He'd need to get into shape, which could be played into a storyline on Burn Notice. Posted by GORDON on Aug. 08 2008,11:50
Would be kick-ass if not doctored.Also, how to tie in with existing new Batman story? Posted by Leisher on Apr. 25 2015,18:51
Speaking of the books...< Miller is working on the third Dark Knight book. > Posted by GORDON on Apr. 04 2016,14:04
They made a 2-part cartoon of this comic, and it is perfect. I watched it over two nights, and then watched it again with the kid over two days. He loved it, too. It is a perfect adaption of the source material. Werf."Peel." |
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