Topic: Prometheus
started by: Leisher
Posted by Leisher on May 05 2010,05:54
Yes, prequelS. Two of them to be exact. Before you throw up your hands in disgust the guy bringing them to the screen is Ridley Scott who says he wants these films to trump Avatar. (Cameron made Aliens...Scott made Alien.)
An early rumor is that perhaps the Aliens are man made...
Here's hoping they don't go that cliche route.
Posted by Malcolm on May 05 2010,07:44
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An early rumor is that perhaps the Aliens are man made...
So the Aliens, who are man-made, are the favoured prey of the Predators (an old-ass space-faring race), who hung around with ancient man ... ? Wtf?
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 14 2011,13:38
It has evolved from an Alien "prequel" into its own movie, "Prometheus." It might still be a prequel, though. Ridley Scott directing, HR Giger doing sets, and the look of these stills from the set makes it look a shitload like Alien.Probably spoilery, but honestly I can't see any context to these pics.
< http://www.shadowandact.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/prometheus.jpg >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 14 2011,13:42
H.R. Giger, creative director of classic horror flicks and < other films >.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 01 2011,20:59
More set pics released.Even if the movie sucks, well........ at least it might be visually interesting.
< http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2011/08/28/prometheus-vehicles-revealed/ >
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 22 2011,20:38
Trailer.If you can get screen grabs of whatever that static is near the end in the credits. I couldn't time it right.
Posted by Paul on Dec. 23 2011,05:51
I used Keepvid.com to download the clip.Then I viewed it with QuickTime player and just dragged the timeline bar to the static.
All three static points have nothing interesting.
The first is just fades to generic snow.
The second has a warp, like the VHS tape is adjusting, but no hidden image.
The third could be construed as blurry stars by conspiracy theorists, but no living or man made creature is obvious. I think it's just static with no hidden content.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 29 2011,16:59
I didn't see a fully formed alien?
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 28 2012,17:51
Some viral stuff. Well done.< http://blog.ted.com/TED2023/ >
Posted by Troy on Feb. 28 2012,18:04
Love it. (and TED too)
Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 28 2012,20:02
Rather melodramatic for a TED talk.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 10 2012,21:43
< http://www.yutanicorp.com/ >
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 12 2012,11:40
Holy shit, they released a trailer for the upcoming new trailer:< http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/prometheus/ >
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 13 2012,17:11
Metamarketing
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 18 2012,14:39
This is the full trailer that they had a trailer for.Looks awesome.
Also, you may want to skip it since I think it spoilers at least half the movie.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 11 2012,07:04
Buncha new images.That eyeball situation would suuuuuuck.
< http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/533 >
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 17 2012,10:56
Weylan promotional vid. Stop what you're doing and watch it.< http://youtu.be/DOOJl5lWNfM >
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 17 2012,11:01
Weyland website updated.< https://www.weylandindustries.com/ >
Posted by Troy on Apr. 17 2012,11:39
Random YouTube comment in one of the Prometheus Trailers struck me as funny:QUOTE
Since it's a prequel, and you know the world didn't end because of Aliens, why is one of the tag-lines for this movie 'what they discovered may be the end'?
I mean, it's right to a certain extent, but that's not why I want to watch, hopefully we get:
1. Evil corporate America pushing the envelope, causing problems (Space corporations!) (Did I mention I'm playing EVE again?)
2. Highly detailed alien world
3. Few, if any survivors.
4. Good Aliens
5. Someone saying "Game over, Man"
Posted by TPRJones on Apr. 17 2012,11:54
David is creepy.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 17 2012,12:23
He is able to do things for you that humans may not find to be "ethical."
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 17 2012,12:30
Eve? Really?
Posted by Paul on Jun. 13 2012,16:38
I'll try not to spoil things.I saw the film last night.
I was not impressed.
I didn't really like any of the characters. Well, maybe the ship captain, who was sort of a minor character.
It's always more difficult to answer questions in a film than it is to ask them, but I think the writers really stretched and contorted things to make things fit their story.
And then at the end some really important stuff that has no why is told to us
Early in the film they showed something and I thought, "deus ex machina will actually be a machine." You'll think the same thing when they have to explain a piece of equipment that even they admit is out of place.
When the Scooby & Shaggy characters meet the dick monster they should run, not try to stroke it.
Don't expect an answer to anything important by the end of the movie.
The movie brings up some stuff at the end that doesn't make much sense, which I guess they hope to answer in Prometheus II.
Posted by Troy on Jun. 15 2012,06:21
There may have been a movie here somewhere. But someone certainly screwed it in writing, editing, or both.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 15 2012,06:39
I am not hearing good things about this film from anybody. This doesn't bode well for WWZ as they just hired the writer of Prometheus to fix their script.
Posted by Troy on Jun. 15 2012,08:44
Yep.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 24 2012,19:34
It was.... interesting. Bad decision making, all around.Need time to digest.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 17 2012,22:01
Just watched my blu ray copy, and the deleted scenes, I think, really added a lot to the movie. I watched a couple of the deleted scenes with director commentary on... and he said both times something to the effect, "We felt like this explained too much, so we cut it to make the film more mysterious."Which is just stupid.
I guess I will pirate the version of the movie where the deleted scenes are put back in, because I am not going to pay for it again just to get the finished version.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 07 2013,17:08
So, I'm assuming everyone has seen the movie by now. . . So, Spoilers:So, we did create the Alien? Or did we create a human/alien hybrid at the end? And ya, TONS of "Why are you doing that" came up. Shaggy and Scooby scared of potential life forms, dead bodies, etc. When they actually find life, they try to pet it. The rolling donut scenario. C-Section chick running around, diving across gaps, etc, like a champ. Sometimes it hurts, other times it doesn't. The robot chamber can perform automated surgical operations, except stop the pain. Could have at least administered a local. They forgot to put that in there? Calibrated for men only? And it's in the part of the ship where the selfish woman lives? Etc.
Not a fan.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 27 2013,22:29
Suckfest.This franchise stopped being good after Aliens. Not one decent movie since.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 29 2013,06:02
And why did they have to come about because of us? How fucking arrogant are human beings that we think everything exists because of us?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2013,16:18
Tonight, I will answer the age old question that has been facing generations since June 8, 2012: how much must one drink before Prometheus is good? DVR'd it, and since I just paid too goddamn much to register my car I bought ten months ago, I'm in the mood to be cheated again.
Posted by thibodeaux on Sep. 06 2013,17:19
< This blog post > made me want to watch it:QUOTE
I saw the new Ridley Scott movie, Prometheus, this weekend. Over at Language Log there is an ongoing discussion in an attempt to translate a sentence spoken in the movie, which is thought to be proto-Indo-European.
The movie’s connection to proto-Indo-European language and mythology doesn’t end there, however.
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This scene’s inspiration no doubt was drawn from the creation myths of the Indo-Europeans. “Analysis of all these tales indicates that the Proto-Indo-Europeans believed that the progenitors of mankind were *Man (Indic Manu, German Mannus) and *Twin, the latter of which was sacrificed and carved up by his brother to produce mankind.” J.P. Mallory, In Search of the Indo-Europeans, Language, Archaeology and Myth, p. 140 (Thames & Hudson 1989).
The movie’s connection to proto-Indo-European language and mythology doesn’t end there, however.
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This scene’s inspiration no doubt was drawn from the creation myths of the Indo-Europeans. “Analysis of all these tales indicates that the Proto-Indo-Europeans believed that the progenitors of mankind were *Man (Indic Manu, German Mannus) and *Twin, the latter of which was sacrificed and carved up by his brother to produce mankind.” J.P. Mallory, In Search of the Indo-Europeans, Language, Archaeology and Myth, p. 140 (Thames & Hudson 1989).
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 06 2013,18:25
The movie really does make more sense than one originally thinks.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 06 2013,19:43
It sucks.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 06 2013,19:46
no u doBURN
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2013,20:09
Oh. My. Fucking. God. I feel like the movie is only halfway done and hasn't even really started yet. But it's over. WTF?Then again, this only felt like half a movie anyway. I say that as someone that fucking admires Ridley Scott's first four flicks (The Duellists, Alien, Blade Runner, Legend). The last three would have to rank in my top 20 of recent history.
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I didn't really like any of the characters. Well, maybe the ship captain, who was sort of a minor character.
Yeah, Idris Elba was easily the most sympathetic character. The only dude who seemed to have anything resembling a right brain. Everyone else deserved the shit they got except maybe the geologist because he had the instinct to get the fuck out of Dodge at the right time, he just didn't follow it.
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But someone certainly screwed it in writing, editing, or both.
I mainly blame the producer and the director ... who happen to be the same person. Does he even remember how to make compelling cinema anymore? Evidence...
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"We felt like this explained too much, so we cut it to make the film more mysterious." Which is just stupid.
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Shaggy and Scooby scared of potential life forms, dead bodies, etc. When they actually find life, they try to pet it.
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Calibrated for men only?
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Shaggy and Scooby scared of potential life forms, dead bodies, etc. When they actually find life, they try to pet it.
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Calibrated for men only?
I cannot overemphasize how much that last one drills the over-the-top dumb-ass bulls-eye right down the middle.
In terms of stupidity, this point in the story ranks somewhere between Kevin Costner shooing away his superpowered son during a tornado and the previous season of Dallas being a dream.
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So, we did create the Alien? Or did we create a human/alien hybrid at the end?
The scenes with David walking around discovering shit, the holo-projections happening, the albino and the starfish-looking monster going at it? Goddamn, all that was awesome. Ship captain said something like, "They aren't stupid enough to make a weapon of mass destruction on their own planet." The thing that chestbursts from the albino at the end, that's like a proto-Alien/xenomorph. They make it painfully obvious the snake-thing and starfish-thing are supposed to be really early versions.
I do see a problem, though. The thing that erupts from albino is the proto-Alien. Then what were the Predators hunting back in the day? Aside from the Weyland Corp mention and the obvious proto-Alien at the end, this could be a completely separate fictitious universe.
As far as why, who gives a fuck? The robot might have it right. Maybe life on Earth was their hobby and they felt the need to reset shit. Would it be interesting to find out? Only if Ridley Scott isn't calling the fucking shots.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 06 2013,20:44
I don't even feel like splaining shit I have read about since he movie came out... too much. I don't know where it falls between, "Look at it from another perspective" and "deleted scenes/expanded material that wasn't in the movie." The first thing is valid, and is discussion. Things that you only understand from deleted scenes and "companion motion comics" or whatever companion piece that comes out is kind of weak. You shouldn't need a comic to understand motivations in a movie.But there was some youtube video that came out at one point that explained a lot of the seemingly dumb decisions people make in this movie. Don't feel like searching for it right now.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2013,21:24
What's the other perspective? It doesn't matter how much cool linguistic/scientific/biological whatever they injected, the core entertainment value is sapped, drained, enervated, and withered due to the shitty plot, shitty characters, and shitty setting.I should not need a youtube video to explain a 2+ hour movie to me. The people who made it had over 120 minutes to explain it. That means the movie fucked up.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 06 2013,22:05
(Malcolm @ Sep. 07 2013,00:24)
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I should not need a youtube video to explain a 2+ hour movie to me.
If you say so... apparently you do. ;-)
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2013,09:58
1) no weapons, neither ship or personal, in case any hostiles are found2) no astrobiologists or whatever in case they encounter new life and someone needs to analyze it
3) medical unit not configured for women because ... they don't get sick I guess
4) complete lack of protocol when it comes to interacting with an alien atmosphere, alien lifeforms, etc., because you can breathe and touch whatever you want with no consequences
5) dumb-ass ulterior motives that include introducing alien DNA to your crew on purpose
I'll let the last one slide because that's one of the "Hey, these fuckers are evil," plot points, but the other four make the trip a deathtrap.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2013,11:40
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I just hope that chick goes to their planet, or base, or whatever, and kicks ass.
I remember a lot of running away in Prometheus.
I remember a lot of running away in Prometheus.
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As far as why, who gives a fuck? The robot might have it right.
Since this thread is spoiler laden anyhow, consider the woman scientist's choice (can't remember her name, so I'll refer to her as Ripley Sr.) to set course for the Engineer homeworld instead of going back to Earth. Why? I'll paraphrase things as best I can...
Ripley Sr.: Set a course for the Engineer homeworld.
Android: Are you fucking insane? You just made a ship and its crew kamikaze one that you believed had intent to pull a global genocide on at least your species and who the fuck knows how many others? We're also pretty sure this isn't the first time they've done something like this, you know, wipe out an entire species on a whim.
R: Yeah but they also created us, so they wanted us to live at some point. Now they've changed their minds. I want to know why.
A: What the fuck are you smoking? Step back and examine things here. You want to go call on the homeworld of the Engineers, a race that is stronger, smarter, faster, and has technology centuries in advance of your own? Their science experiment resulted in the deaths of every other human that came with you. You gave birth to a hybrid bioweapon of mass destruction that grew larger than you in the span of a few hours into something that looks like it would fit in an H.P. Lovecraft expanded universe short story. You want to go and look up the beings who created that fucking thing, angrily knock at their door with no weapons, leverage, backup, or plan in general, and demand an answer like an angsty teenager who's meeting her biological mother that abandoned her at birth for the first time? Do you think they're going to sit down and converse with you over a fucking pint? Even if they don't smash your skull in with my own the first chance they get, and by some hitherto undreamt of miracle you actually get an answer, what the bloody fucking hell does it matter, "WHY?!?!"
R: You wouldn't understand. You're not human.
A: Fuck you, deathwish on legs. I'm already just a goddamn head, but you seem intent on maiming me further. You're just lucky my programing is locked so I can't bite your fucking toes off.
I'm inclined to agree with the Android. What's her fucking plan? You got nothing, it's over, get the fuck back to Earth, regroup.