Topic: Netflix
started by: GORDON
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 09 2010,14:46
Who has it?I can use it to stream stuff to my PS3, and I'd like to catch up on some TV, so can I do that?
I am behind on LOST, Heroes, Burn Notice, House, etc. For the most part I don't even care about movie rentals... I do pay per view once every 1 or 2 months when there is something not coming to HBO or Cinemax fast enough.
So can I stream TV, whenever I want, for $10 a month?
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 09 2010,16:56
I don't have it either, but was considering it cause Blockbuster keeps changing shit for the worse, and my BD players streams their stuff too.From what I've seen, no, you can not stream TV whenever you want. You can only stream DVDs. So, when the program releases it's DVDs, you can stream those. However, the streamable stuff is limited. Meaning, just because it's on DVD, doesn't mean it's streaming. Eventually, it will be, but you will normally have to wait a while. HD content is even more limited.
So, streaming is good to catch up on old movies you missed or want to see again and some new releases. But most of the new stuff does not stream.
Again, this is what I've gotten from my research (you can go to netflix and browse their library), and I could be wrong.
Posted by WSGrundy on Apr. 09 2010,18:14
The streaming library is way more limited. You can stream Lost and Heros but I didn't see burn notice of house on streaming list. They will let you pick individual episodes of shows but sometimes one will not be available. Episode 4 or 5 from Top Gear season 10 is not available to stream even though the rest of the season is. Two other things is if you want Blu Ray you have to pay an extra $2 a month and for you PS3 you need to get a disc from netflix and use it when ever you want to stream. I think the PS3 disc cost $1 or something.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 17 2011,15:55
Pulled the trigger on Netflix streaming to my PS3... they were offering it at $7.99/month, no disk is required any more, and I get a month free to try it out.I browsed through their library... I already noticed some things were "DVD only" and not available for streaming.... so already one small negative.
Cake inspired me to look at the BSG offerings... I saw all of season 4 on there and the description said it was "HD," so we'll see how that works out.
I plan on using it a lot for the next month and I WILL cancel it if I think it is too limited.
The PS3 was beta testing HULU last year, hopefully that will pan out and I can look at reducing the cable TV bill a bit more (I didn't have a HULU account so didn't get in on the beta). My Time Warner bill is currently at $163/month for TV, phone, and internet. TV = digital/DVR/expanded (but no HBO/Cinemax/etc).
But anyway, pulled the trigger on Netflix. Welcome to 2003, Gordo.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jan. 17 2011,19:54
For $7.99, I find plenty of streaming content. BSG was huge. I was moments away from buying it from Amazon for $150. But I decided to try Netflix for a month instead, first. Glad I went that route. I've watched stuff that I didn't think I ever would, simply because it was available. Namely, Weeds (from Showtime) and Dexter (also from Showtime). Then some other obscure stuff. Some was good, some not so. I don't watch a lot of regular programming, so having a huge library of stuff available to me is cool. I would equate the streaming content to:All of the premium channels (HBO, Showtime, etc) when they aren't showing new release stuff. So, it's made up of all the filler stuff you see on the pay channels. There are some new releases in there, but they are pretty limited. My instant view queue has about 4 times more stuff in it than my DVD/BD queue does.
Also, I've seen articles about how Netflix is investing more money in streaming content than they are DVDs now. So, I believe the streaming content is going to keep getting better.
Lastly, there have been some DVD/BDs that I was considering buying, but didn't because it's available via streaming. So, saving money there too.
I'm happy with Netflix. It does what I want it to.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 17 2011,20:12
What's the difference between "Instant Queue" and just pressing the Play button?
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 18 2011,05:04
I think instant queue is stuff in your queue that you can watch on the computer.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 18 2011,07:14
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 18 2011,08:04)
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I think instant queue is stuff in your queue that you can watch on the computer.
So that's the final answer? IQ allows me to watch on a PC?
Posted by WSGrundy on Jan. 18 2011,08:55
The instant queue just makes a list of stuff that is available for streaming. Not all system that stream have the same interface. Like the PS3 you can search for movies but many Blu Ray players don't let you do any sort of searching. It just shows you what movies are in your instant queue and you need to pick from those.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 18 2011,10:40
Oh, so it's like... bookmarks for movies? That way you don't need to scroll through the entire list when you want to find something? Or search, like the PS3 can do.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jan. 18 2011,11:34
(GORDON @ Jan. 18 2011,10:40)
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Oh, so it's like... bookmarks for movies? That way you don't need to scroll through the entire list when you want to find something? Or search, like the PS3 can do.
For some yes but for many blu rays if there is nothing in your instant queue then you would not be able to watch anything streaming on your tv.
But for the PS3 the instant queue is somewhat meaningless.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 18 2011,12:34
Things I wanted to see:[REC] - Not available for streaming
Cloverfield - Not available for streaming
Quarantine - Not available for streaming
Sigh
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jan. 18 2011,16:32
I mainly use my IQ as a bookmark service. When searching for something I do want to watch, I find a handful of things I eventually want to watch. Movies that I've forgotten about, haven't seen in forever, etc. I normally hit my IQ between DVDs. I've even marked movies I own, but like to watch. Now it's available, and I don't have to go dig up the DVD or re-search for it.One of the more recent viewings, I watched a stand up routine by that Tosh dude. Was pretty good. Worth watching. It was something I stumbled across while searching for other stuff. "Hey, I know that name. I'll check it out. 'add to queue'".
They don't have Cloverfield, but they have Zombieland. I have no idea what criteria is used when deciding what's streamed and what's not.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jan. 18 2011,16:54
Just did a quick search. Those "Megaxxxxx" movies are streamed! Mega Piranha, Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus. Worth this month's $7.99 right there!! But next to those, it suggested the 1982 version of Swamp Thing. Was that supposed to be good?
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 19 2011,04:40
How topical. Netflix says they are moving away from the physical DVD model.< http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog....er-dvds >
They're going to lose a lot of rural peeps with no broadband.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2011,06:28
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But next to those, it suggested the 1982 version of Swamp Thing. Was that supposed to be good?
If I remember correctly this was based on Alan Moore's Swamp Thing series that is highly praised.
I honestly don't remember if this was a good film or not. I'm guessing probably not, but I'm conflicted. This came out when I was a kid and it sparks a nostalgic feeling. There weren't many comic book or superhero movies back then, and this counted as one of them.
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Netflix says they are moving away from the physical DVD model.
I think Netflix is moving a bit too quickly. I think they're correct that this business model is possible, I just think they're jumping the gun a bit. I understand the reasoning behind it, they're going to save money in shipping/postage, physical inventory, storage, etc. However, there are a number of things I don't think they're taking into account.
First and foremost is the fact that most people do not have their computers in a central location, nor are their TVs hooked up to the internet. Hell, of the people I know with Blu-Ray players (and that includes the PS3) TWO have them hooked up to the internet, me and Gordon. Worse yet, only those same two people were aware Blu-Ray players occasionally needed to be updated with new firmware to play some DVDs.
Secondly, the last estimate I saw had the percentage of U.S. homes with broadband at 57%. That's eliminating 33% of the U.S. population from your consumer base immediately. Of that 57%, how many are on 1-2 MB pipes? How many are on satellite (considered "broadband" and I've seen it at speeds lower than dial-up)?
Third, what about the recent Net neutrality ruling that clears the way for ISPs to start filtering bandwidth?
Fourth, in that same vein, what about pricing models like the Time Warner(?) one we had a long chain here about where they wanted to charge people based on the bandwidth they used? I know the Net Neutrality ruling opens the door further on that. Between porn and online gaming, who has the bandwidth left for movies?
I don't know. I think the market is absolutely there to sustain the company, but I think it's too quick to turn their backs on the rest of the country. Such a move can really bite them on the ass. People who feel "betrayed" will be more likely to give a competitor a chance before returning to Netflix.
Plus, how does this make them any different than the movie on demand services the cable companies already offer? And hey, that's already connected to my TV! And FYI, those services are some of the fastest growing in the movie rental business.
And again, if the cable companies...Netflix's new competitors...decide to start charging for bandwidth used or decide to start making Netflix's traffic a lower priority on their networks, they essentially just got cock blocked from their entire customer base.
Truthfully, I think they're doomed either way.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jan. 19 2011,09:59
I actually know fewer people who don't have a networked device at their TV than don't. Not saying they should dump physical media because of that. Just sayin'.And Netflix's streaming model is WAY different than PPV. PPV is expensive, Netflix is cheap. For $12 a month, I can stream a ton of movies, and get at least 4 new releases (more if you watch and return quickly). For $12 a month with PPV, I get, maybe 4 movies total? I don't use it, so maybe they are cheaper than $3 sometimes?
I don't know enough about the other points to talk about them.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 19 2011,10:26
(Cakedaddy @ Jan. 19 2011,12:59)
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For $12 a month with PPV, I get, maybe 4 movies total?
Only 2, if you watch them in HD. At least on Time Warner PPV.
That Vudu one too, IIRC.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2011,10:43
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I actually know fewer people who don't have a networked device at their TV than don't. Not saying they should dump physical media because of that. Just sayin'.
How many of those devices are consoles?
How many of those console owners are aware that Blu-Ray players need to be updated? How many are interested in TVs, on which you can surf Facebook or Twitter (And didn't this fail in the 90s? Do we really need to re-visit this shit? Nobody wants to surf the web on their TV.)?
Point being is while they might have a kid or one adult who plays online games, the rest of the household doesn't give a shit. My wife wouldn't have the slightest idea how to turn on the X-Box or PS3 and DL something from netflix, and she doesn't care.
I just think Netflix is taking their product, which is currently mainstream, and re-inventing it for a much smaller audience.
As for pricing, I think you'll see the VOD models change based on competition.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 19 2011,11:57
(Leisher @ Jan. 19 2011,13:43)
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How many are interested in TVs, on which you can surf Facebook or Twitter (And didn't this fail in the 90s?
I was thinking just the other day that Gateway 2000 was at least a decade ahead of their time with their.... I think they were called... "Gateway Destination" home theater TV/PCs. IIRC, the last ones made were P2 350MHz systems. Rolled off the line while I was still working there.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jan. 19 2011,11:59
3 are consoles (only one of which is wireless), 2 are BD players and both owners know they need to be updated. I have two wired TVs in my house, and I'm about to add a third. Those that do Netflix streaming will know how to turn on a console system and get their movies. My parents don't use their WII to stream Netflix (it's hooked to the wrong TV), they use their laptop that's hooked up to their TV for viewing Netflix streaming.Point is, I don't think Netflix is alienating all that many users. I would bet that most people that have Netflix, use the streaming. And of those that use the streaming, most have the ability to turn on a console (or many other Netflix streaming capable devices) and watch their movies. Yes, they are alienating some. . . but I would bet the majority of Netflix subscribers are on board with them shifting to a stronger streaming model. I think the biggest problem people have with the idea is that the streaming content is still pretty weak. So, as long as Netflix strengthens their streaming library, then, I support the idea, and would still pay the $12 per month to be able to instantly get any movie I want, and give up the in mail disks.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 19 2011,13:39
They'll lose rural users. They'll also lose a handful of low-tech folks, but then most of them are probably already using RedBox instead.You have to have some sort of idea of how a computer works to be able to get DVDs from them anyway. Not much, but enough to push you into the realm of almost knowing enough to use the streaming in a useful way.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2011,17:19
I'd say the public backlash, including front page stories on the issue, show it's more than country folk who they'll lose. Don't forget, this news was broken on their Twitter page, and that's where they started getting slammed. And again, we're ignoring multiple issues here in convenience, competition, and the units that will deliver the content, and what the content will be watched on.
Netflix is making some big assumptions that I don't think its thinking through.
The convenience and competition go hand in hand. If cable companies alter their VOD models to push out Netflix, Netflix would have zero chance of winning that battle. The cable companies already have THEIR box connected to your TV and that's all you need. With Netflix, you'd still need something else to deliver the content. If prices are similar, it's a no brainer.
Those units delivering Netflix's content are consoles (how many U.S. homes have them AND have them hooked up to their "movie watching TVs"? How many times will playing a game prevent a Netflix rental?)), desktops/laptops (not really family viewing devices), and TVs with internet...do they do Netflix?
I don't know. It just seems to be an odd choice to immediately limit your market AND move exclusively into someone else's backyard where they have just been authorized by the government to make whatever rules they want.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jan. 19 2011,22:21
I think you are underestimating Netflix's infiltration into/onto devices. Pretty much all BD players have it built in and some TVs do. So, a console is hardly needed. In fact, it was on my BD player before it was on the PS3.Also, there's no 'rental' with Netflix. So, someone using the console to play a game isn't stopping revenue. It's just delaying the streaming of a movie that's already been paid for.
It's VERY easy to get Netflix to the TV now.
Again, I don't know much about the net neutrality stuff, so, can't speak about it. However, if cable companies can kill their competition simply by cutting off access to them. . . well, I think there will be some anti-monopoly lawsuits being kicked off. Because Netflix isn't the only company entering that market. You've got Hulu, Amazon, Vudu, and Cinema Now just to name the ones that come to mind.
And as far as their rural customers. . . I dunno. I can only assume they aren't that profitable. Also, the articles I've read say that Netflix is investing more in streaming than they are physical. Not stopping the physical trade all together. And if they were, it's over the next couple of years. And I predict that in 2 years (a very conservative estimate, in my opinion) every BD player and TV will have the Netflix app (among many others) built in. If not all of them, at least 90% of them. Hell, there are remotes coming out with Netflix buttons on them. Netflix is like the AOL of movie watching.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 20 2011,10:05
Plus, this isn't just about losing some revenue. It's about what happens to profits. If they lose less in revenue then they gain in shutting down the several physical media storage and shipping centers they have around the country, then it's a net gain, not a loss.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 21 2011,10:19
I don't think you're seeing my points, and I'm sure vice versa. No worries as none of us have a horse in this race, and time will tell if Netflix is making a good move or not. All I know is that as a company, I wouldn't put all my eggs into one basket, particularly when that basket is owned and controlled by my competitors. Sure, they're saving a ton in shipping and inventory (one of my first points TPR), but will it be at the cost of the company being run out of business? We'll see.
Personally, I'd like them to survive. I don't have an account currently, but have pondered getting one for quite some time now as there is a growing list of films I want to see that I can't find elsewhere...ok, elsewhere legally...
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 21 2011,10:25
Is Blockbuster's by-mail thing still happening?
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 21 2011,11:15
No idea, but I've heard they're really going to push their own Redbox-like kiosks.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 21 2011,11:47
I bet Netflix is seeing a lot of their physical DVD bidness going to redbox, so they are just giving up that market niche.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 21 2011,18:19
(GORDON @ Jan. 18 2011,15:34)
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Things I wanted to see:
[REC] - Not available for streaming
Cloverfield - Not available for streaming
Quarantine - Not available for streaming
Sigh
[REC] - Not available for streaming
Cloverfield - Not available for streaming
Quarantine - Not available for streaming
Sigh
Inception - Not available for streaming
And a couple other things I looked up.
And the great majority of this stuff is not in HD... another bummer.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 23 2011,07:57
Wife and I watched a Kevin Smith Q&A last night called, "Too Fat for 40," and she liked it and I was telling her, "An Evening with Kevin Smith" was even better. So I searched, and An Evening with Kevin Smith - Not available for streaming.
An Evening with Kevin Smith 2 - Not available for streaming.
When I search for random things, I get a big list of search results, and invariably only 20% of the search results are available for streaming.
I'm not sure what they are accomplishing with that practice. I assume they will be fixing that if they are trying to steer people away from the physical DVD service.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 24 2011,09:50
(Leisher @ Jan. 21 2011,12:19)
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I don't think you're seeing my points, and I'm sure vice versa. No worries as none of us have a horse in this race, and time will tell if Netflix is making a good move or not.
No, I get you, and you are making some good points. But the fight over net neutrality and prioritized traffic is still just getting started. Is it risky to pin a business model to that fight? Absolutely. But on the other hand I think Netflix may be what ends up being the tipping point that causes the fight to really get going. And in the end I think the consumers are going to trash any company that tries to limit their access to Netflix.
I expect in the next few years some big name cable companies will start to have some serious fights with their customers, who will start to leave in droves for any alternatives they can get their hands on. And all these customers up for grabs will drive the broadband market into further development of better choices for those consumers.
So, good business decision by Netflix? Probably not. Good for the rest of us in the long run? Probably.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 24 2011,09:54
(GORDON @ Jan. 23 2011,09:57)
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I'm not sure what they are accomplishing with that practice. I assume they will be fixing that if they are trying to steer people away from the physical DVD service.
Netflix would love to have everything up for streaming, but it's up to the rights holders. Some will let them stream and some won't. And most have a third option of letting them sometimes stream and sometimes not depending on how long the movie has been out. It's all weird, because it's up to the traditional movie guys that don't have any idea what they are doing in a digital world, and most of them think streaming = stealing.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2011,10:46
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...it's up to the rights holders...
The U.S. has a long, proud history of bending over backwards to protect intellectual property rights holders, even if the holder is a < complete and utter fuckwit so frightened of change > that he locks away his < ideas in a legal closet so they remain untouched by the scary future >.
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...it's up to the rights holders...
The U.S. has a long, proud history of bending over backwards to protect intellectual property rights holders, even if the holder is a < complete and utter fuckwit so frightened of change > that he locks away his < ideas in a legal closet so they remain untouched by the scary future >. Fortunately, such pratts get < shown up eventually. >
To take an absurd example:
If someone patented a medicine that cured cancer, does the creator get the right to shelve it for two decades instead of producing and distributing it?
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2011,10:51
Fucking edit function.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 30 2011,08:30
"Why Netflix Avoids New Movies."Short answer: New stuff is more expensive, and Netflix is not really in the new release business.
< http://money.cnn.com/video....fortune >
Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 02 2011,08:11
I never did think of it as being about new releases. I used it more as my own personal library of DVDs. Like having shelves of good old movies somewhere else where people were taking care of them for me.For new releases I went to Redbox.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 07 2011,20:31
Got to say, I have been using the shit out of Netflix. I actually feel bad... ordinarily I would be buying all these TV-DVD collections, and give money to the people who make good shows, but now I'm just paying $8 a month to Netflix and the peeps who make the good shows can't be seeing much of that.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 09 2011,18:34
Questions (I apologize if they were answered elsewhere, I haven't read this chain):If I sign up for it, can I then access it from my X-Box, PS3, iPad, laptops, and PCs or do I need to pay for each? Only one person at a time? Or can I watch a movie on my PC while the wife watches one on the iPad?
Posted by WSGrundy on Mar. 09 2011,18:47
Everything is free on the PS3 but you need to have a gold account on the 360. Free viewing on PC. I don't have an ipad so not sure but since they are not charging for anyone else I assume the app is free.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 09 2011,18:59
Is there a limit to the number of active streams? Like if you are watching one show on your computer can your wife watch another on the TV with the same account at the same time?
Posted by WSGrundy on Mar. 09 2011,19:20
(TPRJones @ Mar. 09 2011,18:59)
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Is there a limit to the number of active streams? Like if you are watching one show on your computer can your wife watch another on the TV with the same account at the same time?
Not sure if there is a limit but two works.
Doing anything other than streaming on one device or any other internet related activities does hurt the quality a bit.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Mar. 10 2011,07:29
You can watch on up to 5 devices, all at the same time. If you have more than 5 (like we do), you have to remove something from your list and add a new one. We have:BD player
Xbox 360
My PC
Wife's 2 laptops
If I'm on the road and want to use my laptop, I have to remove a device.
Oh ya, my iphone is in the mix and the Wii was taken out of the list due to lack of HD connectors. Small inconvenience to swap around, but it's pretty quick and painless through their web interface.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 10 2011,07:54
I want to hear Leisher's thoughts on Netflix after he's used it for a week or two.Personally, I am surprised how much I like it.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 10 2011,07:54
Multiple users/devices was going to be my next question.Thanks!
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 10 2011,08:32
This + ESPN on my XBox, and I'd be done with cable.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 19 2011,19:35
Is Netflix running like shit for anyone else, tonight? My internet otherwise seems fine, so I was wondering when they would oversell their network.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Mar. 21 2011,13:47
Finally got around to connecting the kitchen BD player and added it to my Netflix device list. They bumped the limit up to 6 devices now, so I didn't have to remove an old one.So, they support 6 devices now. Which is cool.
I have not experienced constant network delays from them. I have on occasion tried to watch something, and got a 'network is busy, try again later' message. But, I would try to watch something else, and it would stream. I'd go back to the other thing and get the message again. This implies that the server hosting that show was unavailable, or something. We've had other times where it would have issues and lower the picture quality to match the current download speed, only to bump it back up to normal shortly after. That could be anything between me and Netflix though. I just live with it as being part of how the Internet acts.
Oh, and we can play Sudoku on our BD player. I bet the PS3 and Xboxes can't do that!
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 21 2011,14:09
I'd never seen network problems on Netflix. I figured it was Saturday night, and their network was overloaded. I couldn't even connect to it, and the one time it finally did connect prior to 11pm all of the "Recently watched" queue was blank and I couldn't get anything to launch.If it happens again they will receive a polite yet somewhat strongly worded email. Proper feedback, really. I mean, it IS only $8 a month...
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 22 2011,12:01
Whenever anything goes weird with my internet services, 9 times of 10, it's my internet (not service) provider fucking up.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 22 2011,12:21
And that was my first thought, but every other internet service I tried was fine, including my phone.Could have been Time Warner peering/routing, I suppose.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 22 2011,13:10
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I want to hear Leisher's thoughts on Netflix after he's used it for a week or two.
Personally, I am surprised how much I like it.
Personally, I am surprised how much I like it.
So far, I'm very pleased with it, but I do have some negative things to say:
1. I don't love limiting the number of devices. I have two Blu-Rays, a PS3, an X-Box 360, an iPad, an iPhone, two laptops, and one main desktop. All those devices are in my home behind one router. No reason they shouldn't all be enabled for the same Netflix account. If any were to leave the house, I'd be ok with the limited number of devices.
2. Thus far, I'm not a fan of the Netflix browser for a number of reasons. First, I don't like how it categorizes movies. Second, I hate how limited your shown choices are as opposed to your actual choices. For example, if I look at "Movies" there might be 250 boxes I can look at, but in reality I might have thousands to choose from, but I have to search for them all by letter. I found Alice in Wonderland by simply searching for "A". Never did see a box cover for it. I have yet to see a box cover for any season of Buffy except for #1, yet I searched by letter and they're all there. However, I've seen the box cover for every season of Scrubs, and they were randomly thrown around in the TV shows box covers, which is another complaint. Third, list those box covers by "something", I guess I'd prefer by date of release as the newer ones would obviously be what folks are looking for rather than movies from the 50s. Fourth, the browser should have a list of new titles every time you long on. You're telling me Grown Ups has been the most recent title they've made available for streaming in the last few weeks?
3. This is minor, but I don't like the rating system. I'd prefer to see it change. 1 star for hated it? No, I'd prefer giving it 0 stars. 2 for disliking it? I'd prefer 1. 3 for liking it? I'd prefer 4. 3 should be for mixed feelings. 5 for loving it. Also, comments wouldn't be horrible or the rotten tomato rating or a meta score of critic's reviews or a link to the imdb page...
I do love how quickly it streams. I love how many older titles are available. I'm sure I'll be watching Airplane II and Robocop really soon. I love how it's trying to learn my tastes and recommend films. I love how simple it is to quickly scan through a movie you stopped the night before the find where you left it.
Are there parental controls? Can you assign a user ID and password to your kids different from your own that limits them to certain films?
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 22 2011,20:33
Couldn't connect again, tonight. Tried at 8:45, 9:30, and 11:15. Couldn't even log in. Rest of the internet working fine.edit - Just now I was able to start a show on my PC, but the TV and shit is all off so I can't check to see if it is still dead, there.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 22 2011,21:03
Down for me too tonight.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 23 2011,18:09
Just got this in email:QUOTE
Dear steve,
Recently you may have had trouble instantly watching TV episodes or movies due to technical issues.
We are sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused. If you attempted and were unable to instantly watch TV episodes or movies yesterday, click on this account specific link in the next 7 days to apply your 3% credit to your next billing statement for your Watch Instantly Unlimited plan. Credit can only be applied once.
Recently you may have had trouble instantly watching TV episodes or movies due to technical issues.
We are sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused. If you attempted and were unable to instantly watch TV episodes or movies yesterday, click on this account specific link in the next 7 days to apply your 3% credit to your next billing statement for your Watch Instantly Unlimited plan. Credit can only be applied once.
I never even got around to complaining.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 23 2011,18:23
It wasn't just you. Apparently it was down for everyone for several hours. There's news stories and whatnot.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 23 2011,19:05
< Here's one of the news stories. >
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 23 2011,19:50
(Leisher @ Mar. 23 2011,22:05)
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< Here's one of the news stories. >
Says they are removing Dexter completely.
Thanks, Showtime.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2011,05:56
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Says they are removing Dexter completely.
Thanks, Showtime.
Thanks, Showtime.
I fully expect to see a lot more of this in the future.
Think about it, Showtime would make a hell of a lot more money getting a Dexter fan to subscribe or buy the DVD set than watch the shows on Netflix.
Does Netflix even carry HBO shows? And I expect this trend to carry over to all network and cable network shows.
I think what we'll start seeing is shows that aren't as successful and/or don't sell well on DVD appearing on Netflix, but the big name stuff being held off until their popularity dies down. Perhaps they'll even figure out a way to charge extra money for the "popular" shows.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 24 2011,06:00
Thing is, they would have gotten SOMETHING from Netflix, and it increases exposure to the show for new fans.I'm still going to see Dexter, but now I'm not going to pay a thing for it.
Originally streaming music/video was seen as a way to combat piracy, and offer stuff at a price peeps would be willing to pay instead of expensive DVD sets. Now they are going the other direction, again. This move will only encourage more piracy of Showtime products, nothing more.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2011,06:31
< Another dumb move by Netflix. >Damn, I just signed up and they're already throwing customer service out the window. This seems like a REALLY stupid move to me. Why force your customers to use their PC when you're doing everything you can to get them using Netflix on their TVs, Blu-Ray players, game consoles, etc.?
Not well thought out at all.
On the positive side of Netflix news:
< They're getting the libraries from three more studios. >
< Adding more ABC shows. > This is only cool because I'll watch the seasons of Scrubs I missed when I stopped watching. ABC, for me, is all about their Wednesday night lineup. I can't name any ABC shows that air on other days.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 24 2011,07:01
(Leisher @ Mar. 24 2011,09:31)
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< Another dumb move by Netflix. >
Damn, I just signed up and they're already throwing customer service out the window. This seems like a REALLY stupid move to me. Why force your customers to use their PC when you're doing everything you can to get them using Netflix on their TVs, Blu-Ray players, game consoles, etc.?
Damn, I just signed up and they're already throwing customer service out the window. This seems like a REALLY stupid move to me. Why force your customers to use their PC when you're doing everything you can to get them using Netflix on their TVs, Blu-Ray players, game consoles, etc.?
What's a DVD?
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 24 2011,07:18
(TheCatt @ Mar. 24 2011,10:01)
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(Leisher @ Mar. 24 2011,09:31)
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< Another dumb move by Netflix. >
Damn, I just signed up and they're already throwing customer service out the window. This seems like a REALLY stupid move to me. Why force your customers to use their PC when you're doing everything you can to get them using Netflix on their TVs, Blu-Ray players, game consoles, etc.?
Damn, I just signed up and they're already throwing customer service out the window. This seems like a REALLY stupid move to me. Why force your customers to use their PC when you're doing everything you can to get them using Netflix on their TVs, Blu-Ray players, game consoles, etc.?
What's a DVD?
I was using that queue as a bookmark system to remind myself of things I stumbled upon but wanted to watch later.
I guess I could just keep a notebook next to the TV remote and write things down..............
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2011,07:23
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I was using that queue as a bookmark system to remind myself of things I stumbled upon but wanted to watch later.
Ditto.
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What's a DVD?
When Netflix streams everything, we can make this a relevant question, until then DVDs are necessary. I went on last night looking for something to put in front of my kids for a few minutes and the first three shows I looked up were all unavailable for streaming.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 24 2011,07:25
I think I own 1 DVD. I've never had any need for it.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 24 2011,07:31
(Leisher @ Mar. 24 2011,10:23)
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I went on last night looking for something to put in front of my kids for a few minutes and the first three shows I looked up were all unavailable for streaming.
My kid discovered Scooby Doo movies, and loves them. Once you watch a few kid movies, tons more get recommended.
Netflix for $8/month is so awesome.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2011,07:52
I just saw their email about the outage. Because I'm still in the free trial phase they extended it by a day. I can't fault their customer service on this issue.
Posted by Troy on Mar. 24 2011,10:50
You guys actually search for movies on your BR players and Xbox's?I always just use the laptop. Otherwise it would take forever.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2011,12:04
Why would it take forever? My capable devices connect just as fast as my desktop or laptop.Plus, they have search features that are pretty easy to use.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 24 2011,12:20
Yeah, it doesn't take that long to search on the PS3. Just as fast as texting on a phone, basically.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Mar. 24 2011,14:37
I don't use anything but the PC due to lack of keyboard on other devices. I'm at my PC too much for it to matter to me that they are making this change.
Posted by Troy on Mar. 24 2011,15:04
(Cakedaddy @ Mar. 24 2011,14:37)
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I don't use anything but the PC due to lack of keyboard on other devices. I'm at my PC too much for it to matter to me that they are making this change.
Yeah, lack of keyboard was my main thought. No big deal for me, either.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 24 2011,15:28
The change is the instant queue, not the search function. I hope they still implement some sort of bookmarking system.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 09 2011,13:56
Found something I don't like about Netflix and it's pretty major: they censor content.Archer season 1, episode 5 has a line where one of the gay hit men says "i said let's hire a couple of cracked out mexicans (or puerto ricans)" and they bleeped out the nationality.
This comment is on the DVD set which is the only other place I've watched the show.
Makes me wonder what else they're censoring.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 09 2011,14:00
All Star Treks ever coming in July.< http://www.tekgoblin.com/2011....e-it-so >
I have never seen DS9 or Enterprise in their entirety; I may do that now. Heard DS9 got really good in it's last few season, and Enterprise very good in its last season.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 09 2011,14:49
(Leisher @ Apr. 09 2011,16:56)
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Found something I don't like about Netflix and it's pretty major: they censor content.
Archer season 1, episode 5 has a line where one of the gay hit men says "i said let's hire a couple of cracked out mexicans (or puerto ricans)" and they bleeped out the nationality.
This comment is on the DVD set which is the only other place I've watched the show.
Makes me wonder what else they're censoring.
Archer season 1, episode 5 has a line where one of the gay hit men says "i said let's hire a couple of cracked out mexicans (or puerto ricans)" and they bleeped out the nationality.
This comment is on the DVD set which is the only other place I've watched the show.
Makes me wonder what else they're censoring.
Maybe... but not definitely...
Venture Brothers are censored on TV, but then the DVD's are not censored.
Netflix MAY by just airing what was on TV, and not the DVD versions........ which does seem a little odd considering their business model...... but it doesn't necessarily mean Netflix is censoring. FX just may have given them the censored versions for streaming, which DOES actually make a little sense, because then there is still some value to be had from buying the DVD's.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 09 2011,15:09
Awesome trek news.Sound reasoning on the censorship thing. I might write them and ask.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 09 2011,18:03
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I have never seen DS9 or Enterprise in their entirety; I may do that now. Heard DS9 got really good in it's last few season, and Enterprise very good in its last season.
As for the former, that's pretty much the dual of my opinion on the series. As for the latter, it's got a fucking theme song popularized by Rod Stewart.
Posted by WSGrundy on Apr. 21 2011,13:50
< Streaming of mulitple movies/show at the same time. >
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 21 2011,16:39
That's weird. I could have sworn you could already do that. I can't believe that we haven't had a conflict yet. Three family members here watch stuff all day long independent of each other. Hard to believe we haven't had any overlap yet.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 21 2011,16:44
I've also heard of multiple peeps watching 1 account several different places at once. Not sure what is up with that.If I weren't so lazy I could test it myself, now.
And to add my own content, trying to watch Netflix on hotel internet can suuuuck. Once 8pm hit, my bandwidth must have dropped to a trickle because with stops to buffer every 4 minutes, it took about 70 minutes to watch a 22 minute tv show.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 21 2011,18:08
Free hotel wifi sucks, cuz people use it.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 21 2011,18:40
Yeah, people are the worst.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 28 2011,17:28
More people on Netflix than on Comcast.< http://consumerist.com/2011....st.html >
Sort of a strange metric, granted.
I still say Netflix is going for massive penetration into the American market ahead of bandwidth caps, which are arguably aimed at damaging Netflix.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 28 2011,18:10
If netflix had live ESPN, I'd have it.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 28 2011,18:12
By the way, tested watching Netflix on multiple devices last night. Worked fine. TV and PC were both streaming.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 28 2011,18:13
Wack.
Posted by TPRJones on Apr. 29 2011,04:14
There's a chance that's something that will stop working once the Family Plan is in place.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 29 2011,04:16
That will bug me. Instead of arbitrarily applying download caps like an ISP, they'll be applying device caps.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 29 2011,05:58
QUOTE
By the way, tested watching Netflix on multiple devices last night. Worked fine. TV and PC were both streaming.
Ditto. I was running it on the PS3, and the wife was watching something on the iPad.
I've also seen no indication that I'm limited to a certain number of devices...?
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 29 2011,07:38
So they're going to up the cost of the service in order to let you maintain the same functionality.If they grandfather that only for new users I won't be ticked.
Posted by GORDON on May 09 2011,17:29
Netflix isn't interested in taking on cable companies over bandwidth caps.< http://money.cnn.com/2011....dex.htm >
That's exactly the opposite of what I thought they were doing, based on WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
QUOTE
Netflix CEO Reed Hastings is pleased with his company's massive growth, but he fears that getting too large will start "an Armageddon" with cable networks.
Welp, unless they slow down subscribers, cable companies are going to take steps, and/or we're all going to have downgraded video quality in our streams. How do we slow down new subscribers? Raise streaming plan rates.
Posted by TPRJones on May 09 2011,17:48
That didn't sound like a retreat to me. The bit about not clashing was specifically about new up-to-the-minute content, not bandwidth.It sounds like posturing, like they're getting lined up with the "we are just a little company don't hurt us big mean cable man" rhetoric because they know things are about to start getting ugly.
Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2011,23:18
The cable companies can suck my left nut. They're the ones that make me pay every month for signals I never tune into. Half-assed industries positively invite pissed off ex-customers to come in and run the incompetents out of Dodge.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 17 2011,18:42
Sony is apparently pulling movies from streaming.< overly long url >
Now is certainly the time for Sony to look like d-bags to their customers.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 17 2011,19:52
It's hard to piece out exactly what is going on there from that snippet, but it sounds like Starz might be the d-bags on this one, and Sony is forced to do this because of their contract with them. I think.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 17 2011,21:14
Agreed. I think Starz probably had that clause in because they're trying to protect their market, which Netflix will obviously destroy.< In other Netflix news. >
Honestly, this could suck for those with the ability to hear if every movie and TV show must be given the CC treatment before it can be streamed.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 17 2011,21:25
From what I've heard about them, the deaf are the biggest asshole bastard fuckers of the handicapped world.The subtitled karate flicks I've watched recently have had subtitles, and they worked fine, but a couple months ago I watched Let the Right One In and somehow the subtitles kept slipping behind the black bars that go over and under a film when it has a more extreme aspect ratio than the shape of your TV. All of a sudden you'd see the top 3% of a letter peeking out from under the black bar, and I'd have to stop/restart to get the words visible again. Did it about 30 times through the entire movie, because it was a good movie.
Anyway, as long as you can turn them off in the audio options that the 5.1 stuff has, I don't care. I can't imagine they would force subtitles on everyone.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jun. 18 2011,10:04
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We must have equal access to the biggest provider of streamed entertainment.
What? Why? Who says? Fuck you.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2011,10:49
If the worst shit you got going in your life is that your streaming movies/shows aren't closed captioned, then your life must be pretty fucking easy.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 18 2011,11:42
They'll probably win that suit. Or at least get a court order for Netflix to comply and make closed captions an option within a set amount of time.And I can see their point. Imagine they streamed all their stuff without any audio, and everyone else seemed to be fine with it for some reason. You'd want them to start streaming audio with their video, too, and if there was a federal law stating they had to accommodate you you might use that to make them do so. After all everyone talks about how Netflix is taking over everything and going to shut down all their competitors some day, so from their point of view they have to do this or they won't be able to enjoy entertainment at all in a few years.
On the bright side it's won't be too difficult. Almost all their content already has captions. They just need to update their streaming software to include them as an option.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 18 2011,12:03
Aren't actual CC systems actually a separate data stream from the media itself?
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2011,12:32
(GORDON @ Jun. 18 2011,14:03)
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Aren't actual CC systems actually a separate data stream from the media itself?
That seems like some bullshit easily overcome with some software modification.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 13 2011,19:33
So what happened... did Netflix increase the price for peeps on the physical DVD plan?
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 13 2011,20:55
(GORDON @ Jul. 13 2011,21:33)
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So what happened... did Netflix increase the price for peeps on the physical DVD plan?
Got my e-mail today. Effective September 1st.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 13 2011,20:57
Soooo... yes?I am streaming-only and didn't get an email. Only see peeps raging against the machine on facebook.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 13 2011,21:04
(GORDON @ Jul. 13 2011,22:57)
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Soooo... yes?
I am streaming-only and didn't get an email. Only see peeps raging against the machine on facebook.
I am streaming-only and didn't get an email. Only see peeps raging against the machine on facebook.
Affirmative. My 2 DVD per month plan is clocking in at $11.99 or something. It's more than the streaming-only access.
Posted by Troy on Jul. 13 2011,22:40
I Heard Sony movies had already been pulled. About to lose a lot of content.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 23 2011,22:38
Got on tonight and my instant queue was gone. I hope that isn't permanent. Having to search anew every time I want to watch something on Netflix would be annoying as hell.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 24 2011,12:01
If the yank it permanently, then I'm cancelling my subscription. I don't know who's running shit up there now, but they're fucking insane.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 24 2011,15:19
I agree. The instant queue is my "to watch" list and considering their browsing feature is three notches below ridiculously awful, it's pretty important to me.I'm anxiously awaiting a Netflix competitor to come along and blow their doors off.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 24 2011,17:11
My instant queue is back. Must have just been one of those things.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 02 2011,05:52
Starz is pulling their shit.< http://www.tekgoblin.com/2011....netflix >
QUOTE
Netflix stands to lose a large amount of content as Starz has licenses for first run Sony and Walt Disney movies.
So fuck you, Starz.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 02 2011,11:50
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Starz is getting killed. They don't have the hit series like HBO and Showtime, and between Netflix, VOD, Redbox, etc. they are dying a slow death.
So this makes sense, but will be a small obstacle for Netflix to wait out until Starz goes under.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 02 2011,12:28
So Starz is having money problems, so they refuse to come to an agreement with the biggest movie provider in order to make more money?No wonder they are going under.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 02 2011,12:37
I don't think money is the issue so much as nobody wants to subscribe to Starz. Compare their annual cost to all their competitors, and then examine what each brings to the table.
Starz sucks.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 02 2011,12:43
Just read that Starz previous deal was to provide their catalog for $30 million, and the deal Netflix was offering now was for $250 million, and Starz declined.If I were a Starz investor, I'd be pissed. I wonder if cable TV companies are compensating Starz to play hardball.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2011,06:48
< No more multi-streaming >
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 07 2011,06:52
Netflix is becoming a little less awesome lately.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 07 2011,07:20
Yeah, that's pretty shitty. I can't watch Star Trek, while my wife is upstairs watching Charmed? Then why do I have a Netflix account?
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 07 2011,07:23
I remember something about a small fee for multiple streaming.. was that earlier in this thread?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2011,07:24
Meanwhile, TPR and I can watch whatever we want, whenever we want.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 07 2011,07:26
(GORDON @ Sep. 07 2011,10:23)
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I remember something about a small fee for multiple streaming.. was that earlier in this thread?
"Family plan," approximately page 4. No pricing info.
< http://money.msn.com/investm....1=33002 >
And Catt... how long will that be the case for you, you think?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2011,07:36
I dunno. I've been doing some kind of filesharing for 25 years now... At times it's been harder than others, but we'll see.We buy some stuff here and there. The problem is that it's all sooooo inconvenient. I don't want physical media, and I don't want to be restricted on where I can watch something. Streaming doesn't work in a car/plane/slow Internet land. Hell, sometimes it doesn't work in a place with real Internet.
My wife asked about Red Box the other day. I said they only do big/recent releases. She then asked about Vudu - well, it doesn't work on our Xbox. She didn't want the monthly of Netflix, but even that, to work on XBox requires a Live account, we don't have. And has the other restrictions.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 07 2011,07:40
The PS3 now has Hulu Plus, Vudu, and 2 sports channels.... I forget which (NHL and Baseball, maybe? i dunno. doesnt sound right.).... in addition to Netflix. New within the last month, or so.Hulu only has a 7 day free trial. I would sign up if it was a month, but 7 days is too short to really give it a spin, for me.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2011,07:56
Hulu is on the XBox too. If I could get ESPN without cable, I would probably cancel cable and get Hulu.
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 07 2011,07:57
(TheCatt @ Sep. 07 2011,09:36)
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We buy some stuff here and there. The problem is that it's all sooooo inconvenient. I don't want physical media, and I don't want to be restricted on where I can watch something. Streaming doesn't work in a car/plane/slow Internet land. Hell, sometimes it doesn't work in a place with real Internet.
I no longer want - nor can even use - physical media. But from time to time if I liked something enough to want to support the artists that created it, I'll buy it anyway. Typically one or two movies or albums a month. Then when they come in the mail I throw them away, because I already have the digital versions I want. Seems wasteful, but what can you do?
Sometimes I find a better way. Like this one guy with music I liked that wasn't for sale digitally but he did have one other song on Amazon so I bought 8 copies of the same MP3 I didn't want to cover the cost of the album I would have tossed in the trash. Saved on shipping, still gave him money.
It's true that I do almost nothing to support the movie production companies or recording companies. The big boys of the industry see almost nothing from me, ever. But I don't feel bad about that one bit, considering how shitty they treat their consumers. When they get their heads out of their asses and start to let we the consumers have proper control over how we get our entertainment from them, then I'll consider starting to play by their rules again.
Netflix was - at one time - a good middle ground. But not anymore. At least not for me.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 07 2011,08:42
(TPRJones @ Sep. 07 2011,10:57)
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Typically one or two movies or albums a month. Then when they come in the mail I throw them away, because I already have the digital versions I want. Seems wasteful, but what can you do?
Dude, if it is the principle of the thing, just have them shipped to my house and tell yourself you are supporting dtman.com. ;)
edit - I also think you should vote with your dollars and support BBCA and buy Doctor Who season 5 on BLU RAY.
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 07 2011,08:55
I don't throw them away because the offend me, but because I really have no way to play it. I have no DVD player, and even my computer has no physical media drives. But if I gave it to you that would defeat the whole purpose of it, since now you wouldn't buy it. Nope, it must be purchased and then removed from circulation to count.Of course I'd rather just get pay for it for digital (and DRM free and not tied to any specific platform or program) to begin with, but that's often not a legitimate option. *sigh*
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 07 2011,09:01
Trust me, I aint gonna buy DW5-BD when the price doesn't ever drop below $61 for 12 episodes.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 15 2011,13:33
< Stock drops 15%. >
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 15 2011,13:50
Yikes.Kind of screwed though when everyone wants to charge 10 times more for their content. I guess the cable companies are winning when they also own the internet lines.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 19 2011,06:28
< Qwikster is born. >The CEO of Netflix said the recent bad press over the price hikes were all his fault, and he owes everyone an explanation.
I think I'd ask him, "Do you really think separating your company into two entities helps to hide the price hikes?"
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 19 2011,06:32
Well, what they really want to do is get out of the DVD business altogether. You don't just come up with a new company like this overnight, so no doubt this was the plan all along and pissing everyone off with the change in rental plans was just a by-product. Get the anger over with early - mostly directed at Netflix itself - and Qwikster has a slightly better chance of surviving. So smart move in that Netflix is now finally almost out of the DVD business. Mission Accomplished!However, I don't expect much out of Qwikster. It'll struggle along for a little while, but it'll eventually shut down in a couple of years.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 19 2011,06:44
I honestly don't give them enough credit to come up with that plan. I agree that Qwikster is doomed to fail, and they know that, but I would bet that Qwikster WAS conceived overnight. It's right there in the title, QWIKster.
Netflix was completely caught off guard in how many people were pissed about their price hike and dropped their service.
This move allows them to get those people back in a sneaky way, it's not called "Netflix"...nobody is mad at "Qwikster".
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 20 2011,06:57
I received this in my email today. I'm sure most of you did too...Dear Leisher,
I messed up. I owe you an explanation.
It is clear from the feedback over the past two months that many members felt we lacked respect and humility in the way we announced the separation of DVD and streaming and the price changes. That was certainly not our intent, and I offer my sincere apology. Let me explain what we are doing.
For the past five years, my greatest fear at Netflix has been that we wouldn't make the leap from success in DVDs to success in streaming. Most companies that are great at something – like AOL dialup or Borders bookstores – do not become great at new things people want (streaming for us). So we moved quickly into streaming, but I should have personally given you a full explanation of why we are splitting the services and thereby increasing prices. It wouldn’t have changed the price increase, but it would have been the right thing to do.
So here is what we are doing and why.
Many members love our DVD service, as I do, because nearly every movie ever made is published on DVD. DVD is a great option for those who want the huge and comprehensive selection of movies.
I also love our streaming service because it is integrated into my TV, and I can watch anytime I want. The benefits of our streaming service are really quite different from the benefits of DVD by mail. We need to focus on rapid improvement as streaming technology and the market evolves, without maintaining compatibility with our DVD by mail service.
So we realized that streaming and DVD by mail are really becoming two different businesses, with very different cost structures, that need to be marketed differently, and we need to let each grow and operate independently.
It’s hard to write this after over 10 years of mailing DVDs with pride, but we think it is necessary: In a few weeks, we will rename our DVD by mail service to “Qwikster”. We chose the name Qwikster because it refers to quick delivery. We will keep the name “Netflix” for streaming.
Qwikster will be the same website and DVD service that everyone is used to. It is just a new name, and DVD members will go to qwikster.com to access their DVD queues and choose movies. One improvement we will make at launch is to add a video games upgrade option, similar to our upgrade option for Blu-ray, for those who want to rent Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 games. Members have been asking for video games for many years, but now that DVD by mail has its own team, we are finally getting it done. Other improvements will follow. A negative of the renaming and separation is that the Qwikster.com and Netflix.com websites will not be integrated.
There are no pricing changes (we’re done with that!). If you subscribe to both services you will have two entries on your credit card statement, one for Qwikster and one for Netflix. The total will be the same as your current charges. We will let you know in a few weeks when the Qwikster.com website is up and ready.
For me the Netflix red envelope has always been a source of joy. The new envelope is still that lovely red, but now it will have a Qwikster logo. I know that logo will grow on me over time, but still, it is hard. I imagine it will be similar for many of you.
I want to acknowledge and thank you for sticking with us, and to apologize again to those members, both current and former, who felt we treated them thoughtlessly.
Both the Qwikster and Netflix teams will work hard to regain your trust. We know it will not be overnight. Actions speak louder than words. But words help people to understand actions.
Respectfully yours,
-Reed Hastings, Co-Founder and CEO, Netflix
p.s. I have a slightly longer explanation along with a video posted on < our blog >, where you can also post comments.
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 20 2011,07:38
QUOTE
Most companies that are great at something – like AOL dialup or Borders bookstores
Really? Those are his big shining examples? Does he not know that AOL has been sliding downhill for almost a decade, and that Borders just closed it's doors for good?
Not the sort of comparison he should really be making, I would think.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 20 2011,08:03
(TPRJones @ Sep. 20 2011,10:38)
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QUOTE
Most companies that are great at something – like AOL dialup or Borders bookstores
Really? Those are his big shining examples? Does he not know that AOL has been sliding downhill for almost a decade, and that Borders just closed it's doors for good?
Not the sort of comparison he should really be making, I would think.
You missed the point of what he was saying there. He said they were great at what they did, but they failed to change. He was implying that Netflix is great at what it does, but if it didn't change it would wind up like them.
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 20 2011,09:52
Ah, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I totally missed what he was saying there.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 08 2011,18:33
Netflix down?I just tried launching it and it said my PS3 was not a recognized device, then when I try to relog it in it says it can't.
And their webpage appears to be slow/broken.
So is it just me?
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 10 2011,06:11
Remember that whole Qwikster thing?< It's already gone. >
Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 10 2011,06:27
Well, so much for my theory that they are brilliant strategists. Clearly they're instead idiots.The separate company was a good idea, and they should have stuck with it. They should also have enabled API tools to allow the two accounts to communicate about items in queues for easy use by customers that want both as if they were one and the same. But they really should spin off that DVD business before it sinks them.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 10 2011,08:17
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They should also have enabled API tools to allow the two accounts to communicate about items in queues for easy use by customers that want both as if they were one and the same.
Exactly.
I bitch about the same thing with AT&T. If I call my sales rep, who is crazy overworked and has no support staff, he can do certain things to my account that the local store can't. That's stupid. My account is password protected, and I'm the only authorized user. I should be able to walk into that store and do ALL my business as if I was talking directly to my rep. However, they're on two different systems. And please understand I'm not talking about anything that would take away commission, so that's not an issue.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 10 2011,08:47
We canceled the streaming, and they are only $1 cheaper than Blockbuster now. They only thing keeping from dumping them entirely is the availability of television series' that I'm watching. Once those are watched, I may cancel it entirely and just use Red Box. Already started using Red Box for new releases while I finish all the series in my Netflix queue.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 10 2011,09:15
As someone who has only ever had streaming, and has only ever wanted streaming, I have seen absolutely no changes in Netflix, besides content coming and going.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 10 2011,09:34
It was getting harder for us to find stuff to watch. We started adding things to our queue that seemed like they might be interesting/funny and more often than not, weren't. They have a shit ton of stuff out there, but it started to seem like a ton of it was shit. We decided our entertainment dollar was better spent for us with Red Box. We are also considering Blockbuster just to stick it to Netflix.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 10 2011,11:01
Archer.The League.
Scrubs (Seasons 1-4, although the rest are watchable, but not the same level...)
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 10 2011,11:09
Farscape.There's a Netflix sticky thread, post things that should be watched, there.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 10 2011,11:30
I started watching Archer, and liked it. I've watched a shit ton of Scrubs, but not all of it. Watched The League as well. But honestly, TV shows are much like PC games for me. Have a HUGE list of both I want to go through, but don't have enough time to do them all. So, I let the streaming go. So, I guess that also contributed to dumping the streaming. Because watching a season and a half of Scrubs, marathon style would burn me out and I wouldn't go back to it for weeks/months. So, again, the service sat unused. Would watch the other shit shows hoping to find another hidden gem that was something different from whatever I had just over watched.Long term, I might find myself switching between streaming and dvd by mail. But I think Red Box will stay a constant.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 10 2011,11:43
One thing that streaming Netflix got me watching that I hadn't anticipated is documentaries. I've always liked them, but wouldn't go out of my way for them (except "A Fistful of Quarters"...). Now I find they're easy to find and watch thanks to Netflix.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 10 2011,11:50
I can no longer fathom going to a store or a Redbox kiosk and renting a physical copy of a movie. Partly it is because the nearest iteration of either is a 15 minute drive for me, but the other part is... why would I? There's more content on Netflix than I can keep up with, and if there is something I want to watch that Netflix, Vudu, or Time Warner On Demand doesn't have, if no one wants to take my money, then it is always available on torrent 5 minutes away. Everything is seemlessly hooked into the big screen TV so I sacrifice nothing in the audio/visual department.Have a membership to rent flicks at a brick and mortar, and then get dirty, scratched up media? As if.
At least, that is how the shit at Blockbuster used to be, when I last used them 6 years ago. They even started a new policy back then that NO, you MAY NOT inspect the disk before you leave the store. Fuck that. This was right when they started "No Late Fees/Except yeah there are late fees" thing. Last 3 DVDs I rented from Blockbuster were scratched all to hell.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 10 2011,12:11
RARELY had a problem with Blockbuster DVDs. We rented A LOT from them. Would get them through the mail and we could return them to the store instead of mailing them back for three from the store. There were times when we would have 6 DVDs from them. It was rare that one wouldn't play because of damage. I would say that playability problems with the DVDs happened as often as playability problems with Netflix streaming did. Neither happened enough that I'd dump the service completely. And as far as watching TV, I put new releases/movies above other things. That's why I like Red Box and DVD through the mail.
Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 10 2011,12:36
I quit using Blockbuster when they lied to me. They stated in an ad that you could get a free rental for every Netflix envelope that you brought in. Not "limit one per customer" or anything like that. Just any you brought in = a DVD rental.I just happened to have 642 of them in a box I had been tossing them in next to the TV. So I took them in. I didn't expect to get 642 rentals, but it was the start of Spring Break so I could have gone for six or so pretty easily. It was more for the chuckle we would have at the store together, me and the nice video guy.
Nope, no six rentals. Just one. And the guy was a raging dick about it, too. So I tossed my rental card on the counter and told them to fuck off.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 25 2011,06:10
< Netflix from 300 to 78/share. >
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 19 2011,17:00
New episodes of Arrested Development coming exclusively to Netflix in 2013.< http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id....41a69eE >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 29 2012,07:07
< More movies dropped as they shift more to TV. >
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 29 2012,07:31
1. They lose Starz content, today. I *think* that might include Disney stuff, but I could be wrong about that.2. Remember the conversation about Netflix killing the ability to watch on 2 devices at the same time, with a single account, unless you had some sort of family plan? I did it last night with no trouble, so maybe they dropped that plan when they had their Quickster fiasco.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 29 2012,07:32
(GORDON @ Feb. 29 2012,10:31)
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1. They lose Starz content, today. I *think* that might include Disney stuff, but I could be wrong about that.
And if I would hit the link before I commented on it, I would see that I am correct.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 29 2012,08:12
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2. Remember the conversation about Netflix killing the ability to watch on 2 devices at the same time, with a single account, unless you had some sort of family plan? I did it last night with no trouble, so maybe they dropped that plan when they had their Quickster fiasco.
I've been doing that for some time now. The wife would be upstairs watching Grey's Anatomy, and I'd be downstairs watching Burn Notice.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 29 2012,10:26
(Leisher @ Feb. 29 2012,11:12)
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2. Remember the conversation about Netflix killing the ability to watch on 2 devices at the same time, with a single account, unless you had some sort of family plan? I did it last night with no trouble, so maybe they dropped that plan when they had their Quickster fiasco.
I've been doing that for some time now. The wife would be upstairs watching Grey's Anatomy, and I'd be downstairs watching Burn Notice.
Last night the wife was in the bedroom watching Jericho and I was in the living room with Sports Night.
Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 29 2012,12:42
Yay, Sports Night! Too bad it ended so soon.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 29 2012,12:45
Two episodes into season 2.
Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 29 2012,16:38
Ah. You just met Sam.I liked Sam.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 29 2012,17:44
(TPRJones @ Feb. 29 2012,19:38)
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Ah. You just met Sam.
I liked Sam.
I liked Sam.
Yep, just did.
Posted by Troy on Feb. 29 2012,21:00
Netflix recommended I watch < TrollHunter >.You should watch it. It's awesome.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 29 2012,21:30
(Troy @ Mar. 01 2012,00:00)
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Netflix recommended I watch < TrollHunter >.
You should watch it. It's awesome.
You should watch it. It's awesome.
< Yeah I liked it. >
Posted by Troy on Mar. 01 2012,06:17
(GORDON @ Feb. 29 2012,21:30)
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(Troy @ Mar. 01 2012,00:00)
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Netflix recommended I watch < TrollHunter >.
You should watch it. It's awesome.
You should watch it. It's awesome.
< Yeah I liked it. >
Searching is hard. Also, still worth watching.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 01 2012,07:17
Yep, very good flick.I may pick it up on bluray one of these days just to reward the film makers.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 01 2012,07:26
It keeps recommending that film to me.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 08 2013,05:51
Netflix just made a content deal with Time Warner.Also, they signed a deal to get the Disney stuff back.
< http://money.cnn.com/2013....t=hp_t2 >
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 08 2013,05:52
Also,TRRROOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 08 2013,09:55
CHUCK!!!!I recommend Fringe too. Pretty decent show. The final season is airing right now, so in a few months, you'll be able to watch the complete series on Netflix.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2013,09:58
Fringe? That show looks immensely stupid from every preview/teaser I've ever seen.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 08 2013,11:28
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That show looks immensely stupid from every preview/teaser I've ever seen.
to be fair, I imagine that's your reaction to ALL previews/trailers.
Actually, let's have a little fun with this...and DON'T CHEAT!!!!!!!!
Going just on what you see regarding the trailers, tell me the plot of the show or as much as you can about the show.
This might be a new fun thing. Ask people to describe a show or movie they've never seen, and see how closely the trailers/previews get them.
Anyway, the show is actually solid.
I think the TV pitch would be "The X-Files meets CSI" or "The X-Files with House only he's retarded." That last one made me laugh.
The acting is great across the board, there's tons of Sci-Fi, there's a Scully and Mulder relationship, and the most brilliant acting you'll see on the small screen thanks to John Noble. Although, you don't really get to see just how amazing he is until...well, I won't spoil it for you.
If he never wins an Emmy for his portrayal here, it proves those awards are bullshit.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2013,12:27
I know there's at least three characters:1) blond chick who's there to ... be a blond chick in a suit, I guess
2) twerp from Dawson's Creek, I think he's the wacko scientist's kid or something
3) insane scientist
I gather from the previews that he gets sprung from the crazy house due to some, maybe gov't entity, so he can harness some of that crazy to further his experimental research.
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I think the TV pitch would be "The X-Files meets CSI" or "The X-Files with House only he's retarded."
CSI and all its spin-offs need to die. The second doesn't sound that repellent.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 08 2013,13:45
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1) blond chick who's there to ... be a blond chick in a suit, I guess
2) twerp from Dawson's Creek, I think he's the wacko scientist's kid or something
3) insane scientist
2) twerp from Dawson's Creek, I think he's the wacko scientist's kid or something
3) insane scientist
1) No. Blonde chick is arguably the main character. She's a really good actress too. Oh, and not always blonde...
2) I never was a fan of his, but I think he's a decent guy in real life as he did save those two girls from drowning or whatever it was. Anyway, he's tolerable because he's surrounded by so much talent. His character...the jury is still out on that.
3) Yes and a HUGE no. That's confusing huh? Can't explain without spoilers.
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I gather from the previews that he gets sprung from the crazy house
Yes
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due to some, maybe gov't entity, so he can harness some of that crazy to further his experimental research.
Government - Yes
"Further" - No...
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CSI and all its spin-offs need to die. The second doesn't sound that repellent.
I used CSI because every episode of that show has them using science and odd theories to solve murders. However, I think I'm off with that.
The House one is pretty dead on the more I think about it.
Remember the formula for The X-Files? 1-2 episodes to start the season that was about the overall plot line, a bunch of episodes about the actual "files", and a few episodes at the end about the overall plot line.
Fringe is much faster. Technically, there isn't a single episode that isn't about the overall plot line. There are some throwaway, goofy episodes as with any show, but most are entertaining. Some are downright cool.
The first year felt a touch odd, like they were going for something and then changed course, but they molded it and it works. There was a plan here, and they stuck to it. There was a beginning, and there's going to be an ending this year.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 11 2013,20:27
Netflix put out a list for the ISPs that best handle their streaming.< http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa >
Surprised to see UVerse coming in so low. I heard it was the shiznit.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 11 2013,21:56
I've known quite a few people who went UVerse and hated it. I know fewer who love it.
I think your experience depends on what you want out of your phone/TV/internet service.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 18 2013,08:38
It's been almost all good for me. For some reason the router randomly reboots once or twice most days, and when that happens while I'm in an online game / watching something online / DVR'ing some show then it's very annoying. But only briefly, and only once every week or so does it happen at an annoying time.Other than that, it's been six years of service with no problems.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 04 2013,09:48
A bunch of Adult Swim shows just went on.I saw seasons 1 of Venture Brothers, Squidbillies, Robot Chicken, Boondocks, and a couple others I can't think of. These are shows you don't want your young children watching,,,, if you are a good parent, anyway.
Also the final season of Eureka went on, in case you missed the last episodes and just 2 weeks ago torrented them to get caught up, like I did.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2013,13:19
Netflix badly needs parental controls. Daddy watches Archer, and thus, it shows up in the "Recently watched" section with Spongebob and Phinas and Ferb...
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 04 2013,13:37
(Leisher @ Apr. 04 2013,16:19)
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Netflix badly needs parental controls.
Daddy watches Archer, and thus, it shows up in the "Recently watched" section with Spongebob and Phinas and Ferb...
Daddy watches Archer, and thus, it shows up in the "Recently watched" section with Spongebob and Phinas and Ferb...
PS3, when you launch Netflix, asks if you want regular Netflix, or Kid Netflix. Kid Netflix only gives you the kid shows.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 27 2013,22:36
Clicking the trailer for "End of the World", there was a Netflix commercial showing scenes from the final season of Breaking Bad. Said "See the finale episode on Netflix". So, I went to Netflix to watch the rest of the last season. Wasn't there. So I googled for info.Turns out, the final season is available on Netflix in the UK. And with an extension installed on Chrome, you can log into the UK Netflix servers and see stuff that isn't in the US. I tried it, and it's working.
When I went back to the trailer to verify what I had seen (before I googled and found the UK options), it showed the Hobbit movie as a trailer. So, you might be able to see that in the UK as well.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2014,10:51
So I was trying to figure out why Netflix hasn't started streaming Season 4 of Archer, and whatever is the latest season of The League (and Psych for that matter), when I discovered < this article >. Interesting.
If I'm reading this right, I'm rooting for FX. They'll get to stream more episodes of their shows on their website until the season ends. At that point, the show gets handed off to Netflix, and at a reduced rate? Good luck trying to raise your prices Netflix!
Recently I convinced my wife to give Brooklyn Nine-Nine a chance. We hit the Fox website, and they only have the last 5 episodes online. That sucks. How is she supposed to learn the characters?
To my knowledge, Netflix doesn't, and has NEVER streamed a show during it's season. If it does, let me know because I've never seen it. They air everything after entire seasons have ended.
Anyway, I figured out that Hulu Plus actually has all the episodes of B99 right now. So that's cool, but it doesn't have other shows that Neflix does...
In related news, Amazon just bought exclusive rights to some NBCU shows. So yeah, fuck you Amazon. Way to follow the EA model for being assholes.
Here's hoping networks get to stream their shows for free during the season, and to 1 or more of these streaming services failing so the remaining ones have more options.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2014,11:10
I'm wondering how the fuck Netflix doesn't have Metalocalypse season 4 on DVD yet when that shit was released in 2012.
Posted by Troy on Mar. 03 2014,11:18
House of Cards is pretty solid, if there isn't a thread for it already?It's a pretty good Netflix original series. Kevin Spacey with that southern drawl, ya'll.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2014,11:26
They probably don't have the rights Malcolm.Netflix has the best originally programming, no question. However, I've noticed their selections are falling off. They lost Spongebob pissing my kids off. They don't air shows during their seasons, ala B99 and Hulu Plus. They lost getting new FX shows. They haven't thrown up new Psych episodes. The new Arrested Development episodes were so boring I stopped watching them. Their movie selection is terrible.
It's like they're waging a personal war on me. Do I really have to subscribe to Netflix and Hulu Plus just to get the shows I want?
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 03 2014,11:38
There are ... other options.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 03 2014,11:38
(Leisher @ Mar. 03 2014,14:26)
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It's like they're waging a personal war on me. Do I really have to subscribe to Netflix and Hulu Plus just to get the shows I want?
No.
But, if you want to pay for them, yes.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2014,11:43
Yes, I realize there are illegal options.And don't think you can't pay for those in the long run...
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 03 2014,11:45
< Illegal downloaders have six lives >
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2014,12:36
So are they monitoring you for SHARING or if you download from a site? Big difference. 6 strikes doesn't seem like a lot considering they can see everything you do.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2014,12:52
(TheCatt @ Mar. 03 2014,13:45)
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< Illegal downloaders have six lives >
That policy sounds ineffective and worthless. I'm not surprised it's gotten support. Time-Warner wants to do for P2P what "Just Say No" did for drugs. I hope they burn.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 03 2014,13:36
(Leisher @ Mar. 03 2014,14:36)
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6 strikes doesn't seem like a lot considering they can see everything you do.
Considering that my ISP is one of the ones supposedly giving out these warnings and I have gotten none, this is not true. There is something to how they monitor activity that I am somehow avoiding.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 03 2014,13:38
(Malcolm @ Mar. 03 2014,14:52)
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That policy sounds ineffective and worthless. I'm not surprised it's gotten support. Time-Warner wants to do for P2P what "Just Say No" did for drugs. I hope they burn.
Well, after the 6th warning they - or at least my ISP - will throttle your internet speed down to 1% of whatever it usually is. Permanently.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 03 2014,13:50
(TPRJones @ Mar. 03 2014,16:36)
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(Leisher @ Mar. 03 2014,14:36)
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6 strikes doesn't seem like a lot considering they can see everything you do.
Considering that my ISP is one of the ones supposedly giving out these warnings and I have gotten none, this is not true.
Same. And I'm not really doing anything surreptitious.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 03 2014,13:51
I imagine the 6 strikes policy is either:1) You get reported by © holders, or
2) They get mad at how much bandwidth you are using.
They have no incentive to proactively go after people.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2014,14:15
(TheCatt @ Mar. 03 2014,15:51)
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I imagine the 6 strikes policy is either:
1) You get reported by © holders, or
2) They get mad at how much bandwidth you are using.
They have no incentive to proactively go after people.
1) You get reported by © holders, or
2) They get mad at how much bandwidth you are using.
They have no incentive to proactively go after people.
Probably. Still annoying that it's now one of those "we could technically nail you to the wall on this one, depending how good of a morning we've had" things.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 03 2014,14:42
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1) You get reported by © holders, or
2) They get mad at how much bandwidth you are using.
2) They get mad at how much bandwidth you are using.
This seems likely. And I'm a dirty dirty leecher that has it set up to automatically hop on in the wee hours of the night on the weekends for my activity, and shut itself down again before dawn. Hardly a massive amount of bandwidth being used that way.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2014,18:46
Yeah, this seems to target the big time seeders more than anyone. They're hoping that somehow collapses things. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 04 2014,06:03
Netflix is currently advertising that they got the rights to stream The Blair Witch Project like it's a huge deal.Are they aware how much that movie sucked, and how pissed off it made audiences?
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 04 2014,06:52
I think you are remembering that wrong. It polarized audiences, and made a shitload of money.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 04 2014,08:11
It was critically acclaimed...until audiences saw it.
It also made a ton of money, but I attribute that to it being the first of its kind. There were people who saw it who honestly thought the found footage angle was real. I wish I was kidding.
The proof is beyond the numbers for that film. For example: It still gets mocked throughout pop culture.
Further, two sequels were immediately green lit. The first bombed and was critically panned. The second was dropped, and never even got made.
Ditto for the two video games they made based on the movie.
The Matthew Broderick Godzilla made a fuckton of money in its first weekend, breaking records. However, that film isn't seen as a success, but exhibit A is how badly Hollywood can fuck up an existing property.
Posted by Vince on Mar. 04 2014,08:20
(Leisher @ Mar. 04 2014,10:11)
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Further, two sequels were immediately green lit. The first bombed and was critically panned. The second was dropped, and never even got made.
I actually liked the sequel better than the first Blair Witch. I read that the original idea was to do more of a mocumentary. But the comparisons to The Last Broadcast made them change directions and just release the movie as the raw footage. I don't know if that's true, but I hope it is. Otherwise these guys just suck really, really bad.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 04 2014,08:42
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I read that the original idea was to do more of a mocumentary. But the comparisons to The Last Broadcast made them change directions and just release the movie as the raw footage.
< That's not how it went down. >
They knew what they were doing from the start.
Their marketing campaign was brilliant. Not taking that away from them.
The movie? Not so much.
I don't think the movie was awful, and in fact, believe parts of it were smart. However, they weren't the first folks to do found footage, and their movie did draaaaaaaaaaagggggggg on for the majority of time on screen. It was 90 minutes of cursing and snot for a payoff shot that lasted two seconds?
They needed an element of danger throughout the film to explain the snot and the cursing. Random noises and people getting lost in a forest doesn't equal horror.
Posted by Vince on Mar. 04 2014,08:48
(Leisher @ Mar. 04 2014,10:42)
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Their marketing campaign was brilliant. Not taking that away from them.
The movie? Not so much.
The movie? Not so much.
I agree 100%. The web site was about10x creepier than the movie ended up being.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 04 2014,09:19
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The second was dropped, and never even got made.
In development hell. Not officially dead.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 04 2014,10:12
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 04 2014,10:58
Can I go somewhere and plug in shows I actually watch to create a list like that?
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 04 2014,11:22
(Leisher @ Mar. 04 2014,12:58)
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Can I go somewhere and plug in shows I actually watch to create a list like that?
There really should fucking be an app for that.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 04 2014,11:25
Is Hulu in the same league as the other two? Netflix streaming is $8 a month, and that's practically free. Amazon Prime is "free" when you pay for amazon prime shipping, which almost everyone I know already does, so it is essentially "free" as an added gift with something else that already has value.
With Hulu plus you pay for it and STILL get commercials, and last I heard none of it was HD.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 04 2014,11:34
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which almost everyone I know already does,
I do not. Explain to me why I would. I'm not being sarcastic, I've just never signed up for it or researched it. Why would I need it?
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 04 2014,11:39
(Leisher @ Mar. 04 2014,14:34)
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which almost everyone I know already does,
I do not. Explain to me why I would. I'm not being sarcastic, I've just never signed up for it or researched it. Why would I need it?
We've had Amazon Prime for a few years now. the first year was free. We order tons of stuff off of Amazon. Prime means lots of fast shipping for presents, households items, consoles to resell, etc. so you get them fast. The video is a mild bonus, but needs more content.
The no minimum order size, and no weight limit stuff are nice.
That, and every time they are late, you get a free month of Prime.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 04 2014,11:45
Last I heard it was $70/year, and it got you free shipping on almost everything they sell. Yes, they had "super saver" shipping once with most orders over $30, but do they even do that any more? With the free "super saver" shipping they would basically fill your order when they had time... I remember waiting a couple weeks on some orders. Amazon Prime shipping is usually 2-day, for free.To me, just for the christmas shopping in October/November, that was worth the cost of $70/year. Then they started their streaming service, and made it free to amazon prime peeps, and that was just like a free gift they added for free. AND..... when they first started the streaming service, they often had blu-rays that you ordered available immediately on their streaming service. Order the blu ray, pay for it, leave the computer, turn on amazon streaming in your living room, and the movie you just bought is there right now to watch. I am not sure if they still do this.
So, I didn't know you didn't have it. I retract my statement.
Here's the official amazon perks page. There is also a lot of kindle stuff I don't personally use.
< http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200444160 >
Posted by Vince on Mar. 04 2014,12:17
(Leisher @ Mar. 04 2014,13:34)
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which almost everyone I know already does,
I do not. Explain to me why I would. I'm not being sarcastic, I've just never signed up for it or researched it. Why would I need it?
I have it and like it. We're in the process of getting rid of the TV side of Uverse now and streaming everything we watch if possible. Should be able to cut a good % of that bill out by doing that.
Honestly, if you don't order a lot from Amazon I'm not sure it would be worth it for you. Especially if you still use regular cable with a DVR.
There are a number of free movies every month. Some pretty old. Some maybe a couple of years. I'll usually flip it on when I have time to watch something, but need something other than the recorded shows me and the wife both watch. Watched Galaxy Quest and The Avengers (Marvel) in the last 2 or 3 weeks.
But I consider the streaming a good supplement to our new non-cable life.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 25 2014,15:50
(GORDON @ Mar. 04 2014,14:45)
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Last I heard it was $70/year, and it got you free shipping on almost everything they sell. Yes, they had "super saver" shipping once with most orders over $30, but do they even do that any more? With the free "super saver" shipping they would basically fill your order when they had time... I remember waiting a couple weeks on some orders. Amazon Prime shipping is usually 2-day, for free.
Coincidentally, just after we had this conversation Amazon bumped the price of Prime up to $99/year. Considering there is also the "free" shipping, Amazon Prime video streaming alone is worth that $8.50 per month. And I think for all of us here, $8.50 per month isn't even a blip in our monthly budgets, so. I think it's still worth it at $100.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 30 2014,06:25
< Netflix in talks for new Star Trek series. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 30 2014,08:22
(Leisher @ Jun. 30 2014,08:25)
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< Netflix in talks for new Star Trek series. >
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Update: Nemecek has posted a rebuttal of the original report, saying he never stated there were ongoing talks about a new Trek series on Netflix. Apparently there have been “overtures” in the past, but as far as he knows nothing is happening right now.
?
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 30 2014,08:35
Google it. Everyone is talking about this story, but as of right now, it's "rumors".With Hollywood, rumors mean either wild speculation or there is something going on that nobody is publicly discussing.
We've past the wild speculation part as people are confirming at least one conversation has taken place.
This could make a lot of sense for Paramount, and I'd do two series, not just one. Sign the deal with Netflix, but also sell the syndication rights. Syndication gets the episodes one per week six months after Netflix puts the show online. Netflix gets a percentage of the Syndication fees.
For the first series, you use the actual crew. Have 10 episodes written and ready to be shot when the next movie begins. It's a short season, but it won't take long to shoot.
For the second series, just make it TNG in this new universe.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 02 2014,06:38
< Signed Adam Sandler to a four picture deal. >Between this and the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon sequel that several theater chains refuse to show, Netflix is rapidly making itself a player.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 02 2014,06:41
Theaters not showing a movie because of who made it.... smells like illegal collusion or something like that. I always mix up those big complicated words for stuff.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,06:54
Theatres have been fucking themselves over for a bit now. Much like Xfinity and Comcast, I assume we're just not paying enough.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 02 2014,07:07
I admit theaters do get fucked over by the big distributors... they don't make anything playing a movie for the first couple weeks, and only make money from concessions, and most movies suck and are gone after 2 weeks. So why would they ignore Netflix? Is Netflix gouging them as well? I bet a dollar theaters got pressure from the people with whom Netflix are starting to compete. "Would be a shame if we stopped delivering movies to you."
Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 02 2014,07:18
It's probably something they've decided themselves. "What's the point of having it on the screen if people can watch it on Netflix at home instead? No one will come see it." After all, for the price of a movie ticket you can get a whole month of Netflix.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 02 2014,08:32
Then it's a stupid decision. They lose nothing by having the thumb drive with the movie and reserving a screen for it when nothing else good is playing anyway. Not everyone has netflix streaming.
Posted by Vince on Oct. 02 2014,10:42
Heheh... I agree that they're becoming a player, but not sure signing Adam Sandler is an indicator of that.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 02 2014,11:30
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Sandler’s films have grossed about $3.9 billion worldwide at the box office.
< Sandler's place on the list of box office draws. >
Kind of a misleading list considering many of the actors above him are there because of whatever franchise film they were in and not based on their merits.
Still, it's a pretty high ranking and this is a guy without a single franchise movie.
Give credit where credit is due.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,11:32
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Give credit where credit is due.
He only made the same movie 50 fucking times.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 02 2014,11:36
Samuel L. Jackson is #3 on the list and he's the same character in every movie he's ever made.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,11:39
(Leisher @ Oct. 02 2014,13:36)
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Samuel L. Jackson is #3 on the list and he's the same character in every movie he's ever made.
Yeah, but at least the movies are different. Also, he's done mostly action flicks. Bad non-comedy movies can usually work well as comedies (laughing "at" and not "with"), think MST3K. Like in Deep Blue Sea when Sam makes his speech about man being the deadliest animal of all. Laughed my ass off.
A bad comedy is just truly bad, though. Like 50 First Dates, Jack and Jill or anything else Adam's gotten near in the past twenty years.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 02 2014,13:17
I liked 50 First Dates. Very far from his worst stuff.
Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 02 2014,15:15
Indeed, 50 first dates was charming.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,15:35
Fuck that movie. His one and only decent film was Airheads. Parts of Happy Gilmore, Big Daddy, Billy Madison were tolerable. Three of the same movie. Fuck Mr. Deeds, too. Four of the same movie.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 02 2014,15:50
As long as we agree that Punch-Drunk Love sucked balls, I don't care what you people think of the other movies.
Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 02 2014,15:54
Airheads was good. Big Daddy and Billy Madison were 100% worthless, but Happy Gilmore was okay. He had a decent run from 50 First Dates through Spanglish to The Longest Yard remake. Click had some parts that didn't completely suck.Everything else he's touched has been awful.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 15 2014,13:32
< Movies and shows leaving Netflix as of Jan 1st 2015. >This is part of the reason streaming sucks and why I have kept my DVD collection.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,14:29
Come the fuck on. Why is content getting yanked? Why am I forced back to scratchy media disks?
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 15 2014,14:43
This happens all the time. New stuff arrives, old stuff goes away for a while.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,15:15
(GORDON @ Dec. 15 2014,16:43)
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This happens all the time. New stuff arrives, old stuff goes away for a while.
Why? Is there a HDD timeshare going on? Do they have bizarre agreements stipulating they have to pull some shows or movies every so often?
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 15 2014,15:19
Yes to the second question. They sign contracts with whomever to show their content for X number of days. Contracts either get extended, or not. Maybe Netflix doesn't want to pay as much any more, maybe the content producers want a pay raise, whatever. If nobody is watching Movie A and studio wants more money for Netflix to make it available for another year, Netflix is going to say no thanks.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,15:24
Cockblockers of progress.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 15 2014,15:54
Yeah, streaming is great compared to stealing.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 15 2014,16:36
It has only ever affected me once in however many years when we were watching some educational show and it got pulled midway through the season (as we were watching it). Otherwise, there's always something else to watch.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 15 2014,17:05
Agree with Gordon. From day one, stuff comes and goes. They've never had everything available at all times. I've never been under the impression that Netflix had everything and would always have everything.If you click on the link near the bottom of Leisher's article, you'll see all the movies that left 12/1 and all the movies the came through the month of 12.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 31 2014,06:36
< Netflix throwing parents a bone on New Year's. >
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 31 2014,06:53
That's.... amusing.
Posted by Vince on Dec. 31 2014,07:46
The comments on that article are interesting. I fall in the camp of "go to bed" instead of "pretend they're staying up for New Years". When did it become wrong to set milestones for your kids that they can start doing different things at different ages?
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 31 2014,08:59
(Vince @ Dec. 31 2014,10:46)
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The comments on that article are interesting. I fall in the camp of "go to bed" instead of "pretend they're staying up for New Years". When did it become wrong to set milestones for your kids that they can start doing different things at different ages?
The first time I let my kid stay up til midnight for New Year's... the first time til midnight in his life, actually... he was 5. He got so overly tired he puked all over his bed 15 minutes after the ball dropped.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 31 2014,09:02
And parents wonder why their children aren't fully honest with them...
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 31 2014,09:30
(Malcolm @ Dec. 31 2014,12:02)
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And parents wonder why their children aren't fully honest with them...
Mine is. He has an anxiety attack if he tries to keep something from me.
At least that is what he has led me to believe....
Posted by Vince on Dec. 31 2014,10:23
(GORDON @ Dec. 31 2014,10:59)
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(Vince @ Dec. 31 2014,10:46)
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The comments on that article are interesting. I fall in the camp of "go to bed" instead of "pretend they're staying up for New Years". When did it become wrong to set milestones for your kids that they can start doing different things at different ages?
The first time I let my kid stay up til midnight for New Year's... the first time til midnight in his life, actually... he was 5. He got so overly tired he puked all over his bed 15 minutes after the ball dropped.
So maybe he hit that milestone a little too soon?
I don't feel so bad now. Your kid just generally pukes whenever anything out of the ordinary happens. He's like Stan from Southpark.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 31 2014,10:35
Actually, he has puked fewer than 10 times his entire life. I can almost list every time. There was like 4 years between 1 and 5 when he hadn't puked at all.edit - One of the more memorial times was the day after we got new carpet. He wanted to camp out on it overnight. In the middle of the night he puked tacos all over it.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 31 2014,10:38
I don't think letting kids stay up to see the ball drop is where the "Be a better parent" flag needs to be stuck into the ground. It's a single night of the year and if parents want to deal with crabby kids for 3 hours while they wait for the ball to drop, who does it affect except them? Those annoying little shits are the reason they're not out drunk with their friends, why can't they enjoy them?
As for what Netflix is doing, just accept that it's kind of a cool thing a corporation is doing for parents that they didn't have to do and move on.
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One of the more memorial times was the day after we got new carpet. He wanted to camp out on it overnight. In the middle of the night he puked tacos all over it.
That's your fault. How could you not see that was a setup? That situation had only one possible outcome.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 31 2014,10:45
(Leisher @ Dec. 31 2014,13:38)
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That's your fault. How could you not see that was a setup? That situation had only one possible outcome.
I was actually online gaming with you when it happened. I didn't know he had puked in his sleep until my drunk wife got home from the bar and started screaming. She's uptight even when sober. That was a fun night.
Gordo had to Regulate.
Posted by Vince on Dec. 31 2014,10:53
(Leisher @ Dec. 31 2014,12:38)
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I don't think letting kids stay up to see the ball drop is where the "Be a better parent" flag needs to be stuck into the ground.
It's a single night of the year and if parents want to deal with crabby kids for 3 hours while they wait for the ball to drop, who does it affect except them? Those annoying little shits are the reason they're not out drunk with their friends, why can't they enjoy them?
As for what Netflix is doing, just accept that it's kind of a cool thing a corporation is doing for parents that they didn't have to do and move on.
It's a single night of the year and if parents want to deal with crabby kids for 3 hours while they wait for the ball to drop, who does it affect except them? Those annoying little shits are the reason they're not out drunk with their friends, why can't they enjoy them?
As for what Netflix is doing, just accept that it's kind of a cool thing a corporation is doing for parents that they didn't have to do and move on.
I don't mind parents letting their kids stay up. Doesn't make them a bad parent. Don't think they're bad parents if they tell their kids they're too young yet to do it. It's just the pretending it's midnight for the kids because you don't want them staying up, but are too gutless to tell them to go to bed that bothers me I guess. If you can't make a decision on something simple like this without resorting to lying to your kid, then you probably weren't ready to have them.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 31 2014,10:54
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Gordo had to Regulate.
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It's just the pretending it's midnight for the kids because you don't want them staying up, but are too gutless to tell them to go to bed that bothers me I guess.
You're WAY overcritical of this. What is wrong with some folks pretending it's midnight so they can celebrate with their kids while still being responsible parents and getting them to bed at a good time?
Santa, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, religion, etc.
I'm just not seeing the harm to society.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 31 2014,10:59
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If you can't make a decision on something simple like this without resorting to lying to your kid, then you probably weren't ready to have them.
Atticus Finch had it figured. You lie to your kids, they lie to you.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 31 2014,14:00
Ya, holy shit Vince! Do you tell 5 year olds there's no Santa too!?
Posted by Vince on Dec. 31 2014,14:54
Telling kids there's a Santa because you want them to have that magic of Christmas is a different beast from telling kids it's midnight when it's actually 9 PM because you don't have a sack big enough to tell them they have to wait until they're older before they can stay up with you.Santa is hard. It's something you're doing FOR your kid. This is just lazy and something the parents are doing for themselves because apparently parenting is hard.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 31 2014,14:56
It's midnight somewhere.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 31 2014,15:51
Wow. Vince is a psycho!!
Posted by Vince on Jan. 01 2015,06:53
I also hate the damn commercial for whatever bank it is where the mom and daughter show up for school and the class is taking a field trip and the kid forgot to give mom the permission sheet and now the kid needed money to go and instead of being a teaching moment where the daughter learns consequences for not being responsible for what she's supposed to do, mom bends over backwards to transfer money, blah, blah, blah...Kid is at the zoo and will remain as responsible as a 2nd grader until her mom dies and stops bailing her out.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 01 2015,07:02
I have a comment but we are soooo off topic at this point.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 26 2015,09:55
< Netflix is rebooting Inspector Gadget > and four other lesser known shows.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 26 2015,10:02
I'm geek-offended you included Danger Mouse into the "lesser known shows."
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 26 2015,10:16
I'm sure I've heard of Danger Mouse, but I've never seen an episode.
Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 26 2015,14:55
Don't you know he's the greatest? He is also fantastic. This is because he is the strongest, quickest, and best. Duh.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 27 2015,06:54
I know about Mickey and Minnie Mouse. I know about Jerry.
I know about Speedy Gonzalez.
I know Mighty Mouse.
Danger Mouse I do not know.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 27 2015,07:16
Wasn't there some shitty band called Danger Mouse?
Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 27 2015,07:19
You are such a Penfold.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 27 2015,07:21
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Danger Mouse I do not know.
L4m3r.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 27 2015,07:21
No YOU are the one who is a penfold.Whatever that is.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 27 2015,07:23
So far you people aren't making me think I've missed anything. I haven't even been inspired to google the fucker.
Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 27 2015,07:38
Truth be told if you are over about 10 years of age don't bother.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,08:39
(GORDON @ Feb. 27 2015,10:16)
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Wasn't there some shitty band called Danger Mouse?
Artist.
He worked with Ceelo Green as Gnarls Barkley.
Posted by Leisher on May 20 2015,09:32
< New UI coming. >
Posted by GORDON on May 26 2015,05:33
Starz and Disney wanted Netflix to introduce tiered pricing to charge people more for their "premium" content, Netflix said no, Starz and Disney pulled their content because making zero dollars is better for them than making $300million.< http://www.electronista.com/article....cribers >
Posted by Leisher on May 26 2015,06:29
You need to correct your language slightly. Disney didn't make that call, Starz did as they have the rights for the Disney titles. This is all on Starz.
Go back through the years and you'll see that nobody has been more incompetent and greedy in the world of online streaming than Starz.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 16 2015,21:35
< Prices will rise. >Raise your hand if you thought Netflix would be $8/month forever while buying the rights to show you other people's content, and developing their own content.
If your hand is up, you're an idiot.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 17 2015,06:10
I have noticed the last few months that they have very few big movies at the moment. I have been catching up on really old ones/indies/old TV shows.It has crossed my mind that they might actually get frozen out of the content game by studios since copycat services now exist.
So yeah, I've always thought 8 was too low. I'm not willing to pay double that price, but I could go as high as 50% more.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 17 2015,06:57
It's going to get messy, just like software distribution. Everyone is going to want to be the one distributing the movies/shows and getting all the pie. The problem is most of them will be shitty, they won't have good libraries, and the fees for every service will force consumers into hard choices for content.
So you might be saying "I'm not willing to pay double that price, but I could go as high as 50% more", but what are you paying when Netflix moves to $10, but you're also paying for HBO for GoT and Starz for Evil Dead and Paramount because they have exclusive rights to Star Trek TV shows and movies, etc., etc., etc.
Hell, if case nobody has noticed Steam is now distributing movies.
Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 17 2015,07:13
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The problem is most of them will be shitty, they won't have good libraries, and the fees for every service will force consumers into hard choices for content.
The further down that road they go, the bigger Pirate Bay will get.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 17 2015,07:27
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but what are you paying when Netflix moves to $10, but you're also paying for HBO for GoT and Starz for Evil Dead and Paramount because they have exclusive rights to Star Trek TV shows and movies, etc., etc., etc.
I'm not worried.
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The further down that road they go, the bigger Pirate Bay will get.
Because of this.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 17 2015,08:33
I'd pay $25 a month to Netflix if they were the sole content provider for all studios' films and TV shows. Maybe more. Definitely more if the shows were updated constantly with the new stuff and not a year after airing. Because then cable would be irrelevant.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 17 2015,08:37
(Leisher @ Jul. 17 2015,11:33)
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I'd pay $25 a month to Netflix if they were the sole content provider for all studios' films and TV shows. Maybe more.
Definitely more if the shows were updated constantly with the new stuff and not a year after airing. Because then cable would be irrelevant.
Definitely more if the shows were updated constantly with the new stuff and not a year after airing. Because then cable would be irrelevant.
Yeah, but being the sole content provider means you end up sucking. So I don't know what the solution is. Netflix needs to be declared a utility?
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 17 2015,09:33
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Netflix needs to be declared a utility?
Don't give them ideas.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 03 2015,06:05
< Netflix gets three live action Star Wars series. >
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2015,06:45
< Epix takes their movies to Hulu after Netflix deal ends. >The disturbing part is that Netflix just let the deal end. They didn't bother renewing. Could be that Epix wanted too much, ala Starz?
However, Netflix has the Disney catalog coming in 2016 and that's all Marvel, Star Wars, and Pixar, so...
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,07:29
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Starting Oct. 1 a grip of blockbusters will hit Netflix's rival. Some of the major films that will become available for streaming immediately upon launch include:
Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Transformers: Age of Extinction
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Star Trek: Into Darkness
World War Z
Wolf of Wall Street
Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit
Robocop
And these will be uploaded in "coming months:"
Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1
Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation
Interstellar
Selma
Top Five
Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Transformers: Age of Extinction
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Star Trek: Into Darkness
World War Z
Wolf of Wall Street
Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit
Robocop
And these will be uploaded in "coming months:"
Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1
Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation
Interstellar
Selma
Top Five
Fuck every one of those movies.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 09 2015,07:44
< Prices going up. >$9.99 for new customers right now. Existing customers will still be at $8.99 for a bit.
The $1 doesn't phase me even slightly. Especially, with the new content they give us, and the Disney/Marvel/Star Wars catalog coming online in 2016.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 18 2016,09:53
< Would make a spinoff for every character in the Marvel universe. >Netflix is no dummy.
< In talks with Matt Groening for new animated show. >
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2016,11:18
From an Imgur poster, so I don't know how legit it is, but it seems like it'd be a good tool.I recently stumbled over a post with the top 10 blahblah on netflix.
And the comments section was full of people not being able to watch the movies mentioned in the post because of region-locked content. Most fixes was to either download the movie via torrent or use a vpn/proxy to connect to the Netflix-region that offered that specific movie.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2016,11:46
Netflix has moved to blocked VPNs.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 28 2016,10:54
< Comcast is adding a data cap. >Of note is that Comcast's streaming service doesn't count against your total...Netflix does...
And 300GB? WTF kind of cap is that? My local provider has me on a cap, but it's 1 TB and I've come up against it once. It used to be 500GB and we blew through it every month.