Forum: Sports Ball (BALL FONDLERS)
Topic: NFL
started by: Leisher

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 30 2010,10:21
Never too early to talk NFL.

< Favre says he needs surgery to play again. >

He might be the best player ever in terms of coming up with excuses to skip training camp.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 30 2010,10:47
When the universe collapses on itself & is crunched down to the size of a singularity, there will be two things I'm certain of ...

1) The cockroaches will survive.
2) Brett Favre will be playing his millionth "final season" until he finally wins the Intergalactic Cockroach Football League Super Bowl.

Posted by Troy on Apr. 30 2010,13:53
Still can't believe we drafted Clausen. Good or Bad, still haven't decided myself.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 30 2010,15:01

(Troy @ Apr. 30 2010,16:53)
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Still can't believe we drafted Clausen. Good or Bad, still haven't decided myself.

I think good, but not great.  But you never know with quarterbacks.  I think Peyton Manning has been about the only sure thing QB in the past 15 years.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 03 2010,08:42
< Bye Favre... ? >


Posted by Leisher on Aug. 03 2010,10:10
I've heard he just hasn't healed from last season.

Still, I wouldn't say this 100% confirms he's gone. I think we won't know until the season has started.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 03 2010,10:36

(Leisher @ Aug. 03 2010,12:10)
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I've heard he just hasn't healed from last season.

Still, I wouldn't say this 100% confirms he's gone. I think we won't know until the season has started.

He's got a weird knack for making some leaps of recovery right around the time training camp is done.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 04 2010,11:41
< August 4th - "I haven't made a decision." >

Fuck the MSM. These assclowns made Favre saying he was going to retire the #1 story all yesterday, last night, and this morning. The problem is they did so without any legit sources, including any statement from Favre himself.

Once they caught up to him this morning at the high school he's been working out at, he stated that he never sent the texts and that if he's healthy, he's playing.

Now the MSM is blaming Favre for the bad report and saying he's worse than LeBron.

Go fuck yourself MSM. Seriously.

LeBron is 25 and held a nationally televised "Fuck You" to Cleveland after holding a ridiculous "Worship me" parade of suitors despite having made a decision about where he'd be playing months earlier.

Favre is 40 and coming off surgery. 3 years ago he was forced into retirement by a franchise who thought he didn't have it anymore. He asked to be released so he could play for a similar offense. That same franchise that was forcing him out and thought he couldn't play anymore said no. Favre still wanted to play so he went to the Jets. Things didn't work out great, so he quit. That's when Minnesota made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

And if you want to say he planned it all out just to go to Minnesota, so what? Seriously. So what? If Green Bay doesn't like it, they shouldn't have released him.

Anyway, he had a career year and beat GB twice. He was beaten up badly by the end of the season and had surgery. He is now trying to let his body heal before deciding if he'll again return to a sport that the vast majority of the world's 20-somethings aren't physically able to attempt, let alone perform at an elite level.

I realize that he holds out to skip training camp, and as a former football player, I sympathize. Training camp sucks. It's got to really suck for a banged up 40 year old.

You know why the Favre story drags on in the media every day? Because the media puts it there every day. Favre doesn't.

Posted by unkbill on Aug. 04 2010,18:14
So does anyone have a league set up 4 us? Never to early to start. Hear there is a Sunday night game this week.  Don't mean shit but playing.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 04 2010,19:23
Do we have enough for a DTMan league or are we piggybacking off someone else's?  I can prep the standard two no spread/spread pick 'ems.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 17 2010,17:22

(TheCatt @ Aug. 03 2010,11:42)
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< Bye Favre... ? >

Well, < ... > indeed.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 17 2010,19:49
I'll bet Vegas is pissed.

Savvy gamblers probably threw some bets down when they boosted the odds on the Vikings after the erroneous reports of his retirement.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 18 2010,07:43

(Leisher @ Aug. 17 2010,21:49)
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I'll bet Vegas is pissed.

Savvy gamblers probably threw some bets down when they boosted the odds on the Vikings after the erroneous reports of his retirement.

Anyone who really thought he was retiring doesn't deserve to be called a gambler.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 18 2010,08:29
That's the point, Vegas thought he was retiring and changed the odds on all the NFC teams.
Posted by unkbill on Aug. 18 2010,14:57
Why couldn't he have gone fishing with that famous congressman (or whoever) from Alaska. Back with my Vikes, Asshole better do good.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 18 2010,15:27

(unkbill @ Aug. 18 2010,16:57)
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Why couldn't he have gone fishing with that famous congressman (or whoever) from Alaska. Back with my Vikes, Asshole better do good.

Was sitting in the bar last night listening to all the sports folk redo their NFL predictions because of his "return."  Who, honestly, who in the fuck thought he wasn't going for another season?  Also has the effect of raising expectations through the roof.  Anything less than a Super Bowl is going to seem disappointing.
Posted by Troy on Aug. 18 2010,15:54
I was kind of happy to see that Jake did well on his first drive with the the Browns. Even if it was the preaseason, and didn't mean anything, now that he is off my team I wish nothing but the best for him and whatever team he plays on.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2010,10:30
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Posted by Troy on Sep. 09 2010,14:23
Sit/Start WR decision, Week one.

Steve Smith (NYG) @ Carolina
or
Percy Harvin (MIN) @ New Orleans

I kind of want to start Percy, so I don't have to start Smith and root for him scoring against my home town team.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2010,17:34
Would go Steve over Percy.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 10 2010,06:07
Definitely SHOULD have gone with Steve over Percy. 1 Catch, 2 rushing yards. -7.0 from his projected.

Andrew and Carolina Steve are my 1 and 2s, hopefully they can help carry the load.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2010,07:32

(Troy @ Sep. 10 2010,09:07)
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Definitely SHOULD have gone with Steve over Percy. 1 Catch, 2 rushing yards. -7.0 from his projected.

Andrew and Carolina Steve are my 1 and 2s, hopefully they can help carry the load.

Always listen to Malcolm.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2010,11:39

(Troy @ Sep. 10 2010,09:07)
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Definitely SHOULD have gone with Steve over Percy. 1 Catch, 2 rushing yards. -7.0 from his projected.

Andrew and Carolina Steve are my 1 and 2s, hopefully they can help carry the load.

I started Nicks today, so I feel your quandary.

So far it's working out.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 12 2010,12:04

(TheCatt @ Sep. 10 2010,09:32)
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(Troy @ Sep. 10 2010,09:07)
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Definitely SHOULD have gone with Steve over Percy. 1 Catch, 2 rushing yards. -7.0 from his projected.

Andrew and Carolina Steve are my 1 and 2s, hopefully they can help carry the load.

Always listen to Malcolm.

Never let personal bias get in the way of your fantasy football starts.  Plenty of times I've benefited from folk lighting up the Vikes.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2010,15:26
For at least one drive... Michael Vick is making it look like he never left.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 12 2010,17:30
Regardless of who else I started, Peyton Manning was my starting quarterback. He has an epic outing, despite losing. 433 yards, 3 TD.

If Cooley can score 4 points tonight, i'll win despite half my team not even playing until tomorrow.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 12 2010,20:06
I'm down 40 goddamn points because I played Chris Johnson's ass & had Ochocinco benched.  Still got the Rice Burner & Phil Rivers versus his 40 points + SD kicker.  Just need it to be a slugfest.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2010,20:28

(Malcolm @ Sep. 12 2010,23:06)
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I'm down 40 goddamn points because I played Chris Johnson's ass & had Ochocinco benched.  Still got the Rice Burner & Phil Rivers versus his 40 points + SD kicker.  Just need it to be a slugfest.

Why would you bench Ochocinco against NE's shoddy D?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2010,20:39
So... the Redskins still don't have a consistent O, but the D pretty much held - and the Boys' O-line suckkkkkkks.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 12 2010,20:41

(TheCatt @ Sep. 12 2010,22:28)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 12 2010,23:06)
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I'm down 40 goddamn points because I played Chris Johnson's ass & had Ochocinco benched.  Still got the Rice Burner & Phil Rivers versus his 40 points + SD kicker.  Just need it to be a slugfest.

Why would you bench Ochocinco against NE's shoddy D?

I was expecting his results & Owens's to be swapped.  Not going to be fun if they go sinusoidal this season.  Barber tanked on me, though.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2010,09:09

(Troy @ Aug. 18 2010,18:54)
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I was kind of happy to see that Jake did well on his first drive with the the Browns. Even if it was the preaseason, and didn't mean anything, now that he is off my team I wish nothing but the best for him and whatever team he plays on.

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The turnover-plagued Delhomme wound up throwing two interceptions in Cleveland's 17-14 loss at Tampa Bay, a game the Browns once seemed comfortably in command of, at 14-3. Not a good development for Mike Holmgren's rebuilding program in Cleveland. If the Browns can't defeat the Bucs, who can they be expected to handle? And if Delhomme keeps throwing two picks a game, my prediction of Seneca Wallace as the team's starting QB by October has a great shot of coming true.


Yep.  Still the same.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2010,10:07
Delhomme's career is pretty much done.  Just call him Tommy Maddox II.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 14 2010,13:25
This is nothing against Browns fans at all, but at this point I sort of want their bad luck streak to keep going. It's fascinating to watch an entire city have nothing but bad breaks in sports.

On a totally different note, my fantasy team sucks:
QB
-Aaron Rodgers - Bad week, but he'll be my best player, by far.
-Kyle Orton - Not looking like a bad backup...
RB
-Shownn (or whatever retarded way it's spelled) Green just got dumped as the sole starter.
-LeSean McCoy sucked in week 1 as did that whole offense.
-Clinton Portis - I'm hoping Shanahan lights his fire again.
-Chester Taylor - This one pisses me off the most. I grabbed him because rumors were swirling that he could take Forte's job. I had Forte last year and he sucked. Week 1 this year the asshole goes out and has a monster game. Fuck.
-Larry Johnson - I handcuffed Portis because someone else took LT and Phily has no real #2.

WR
-Donald Driver - See Aaron Rodgers above.
-Robert Meachum - Too many weapons in NO.
-Mike Wallace - He'll be a lot more valuable when Ben comes back.
-Brian Hartline - The #2 in Miami who got 0 points this week.
-Mohamed Massaquoi - A late round grab and as a #1 I look at him as a potential steal or good bye week fill in.

K
David Akers - A kicker is a kicker.

Def
Jets - This looked great until half their starters went out injured, their offense proved it can't move the ball, and they started talking shit to the rest of the league.

To save myself I made the following moves today:
-Dumped Chester Taylor, Larry Johnson, and Brian Hartline.
-I grabbed Austin Collie and Legedu Naanee.
-Later I saw the reports of Ryan Grant being done for the year and picked up his backup Brandon Jackson before the team that owned Grant could get him. I suspect they'll grab Chester Taylor.

My lineup looks a lot better immediately, but I have a hunch I'll finish middle of the pack this year.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2010,21:40
FUCK!  Forgot my picks.
Posted by unkbill on Sep. 20 2010,05:15

(Malcolm @ Sep. 19 2010,21:40)
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FUCK!  Forgot my picks.

Me too. Computer was screwing up. Then I was so fucking angry about the Vikings. WTF.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2010,08:07

(unkbill @ Sep. 20 2010,07:15)
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Me too. Computer was screwing up. Then I was so fucking angry about the Vikings. WTF.

Yeah, when the hell did Miami get a team?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2010,10:21
The Panthers' season is over.
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The Jimmy Clausen(notes) era is under way in Carolina, ahead of schedule.

Panthers coach John Fox said Monday he’s benching the struggling Matt Moore(notes) and will start the rookie from Notre Dame on Sunday against Cincinnati.

Moore has had two miserable weeks. He threw three end zone interceptions and lost a fumble before leaving with a concussion in a Week 1 loss to the New York Giants. After being cleared to return Sunday, Moore threw an interception and lost another fumble before getting yanked early in the fourth quarter in a 20-7 loss to Tampa Bay.

Moore has led Carolina on only two touchdown drivers, completed just 41 percent of his passes and has a passer rating of 41.8.

Clausen is 7 of 15 for 59 yards and one interception in two brief stints.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2010,10:46
The ghost of Delhomme persists.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 20 2010,13:08
They'll fire Fox, but the front office in Carolina is the real problem.

Miami has been getting better since Parcels arrived. They're just not getting any press because they're in the same division as the Patriots and the Jets.

Minnesota is a mess, but I think they're going to end up as a dangerous wild card team. They need Rice back in a big way.

Anyone else enjoying Dallas' start as much as me?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2010,13:16
Yes.  Although it kinda makes the Skins win against them less valuable.  On the other hand, maybe we can do better than 8-8.

Looking forward to Atlanta versus NO.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2010,11:06
FUCK!  FUCK!  Forgot all my picks again & forgot to set my league lineup to boot.  Fucking awesome.  Just fucking awesome.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2010,11:17
You suck worse than Clausen.
Posted by unkbill on Oct. 01 2010,16:55
When are you allowed to make your picks on this pool. I am trying to make them tonight and am not able. Well hopefully be home by noon sunday. If not I guess I can flush that tiolet
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2010,05:47
Picks.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2010,09:47
I actually remembered to make them.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2010,16:03
Hey, Ray Rice, stop sucking so much ass.
Posted by unkbill on Oct. 05 2010,05:30
1 Bay City Rollers, T. West 11 9 6 8 0 0 0 0 0 28  
2 Colorado MTNHORS, D. Nehring 7 8 11 6 0 0 0 0 0 26  
3 unkbill2000 1, w. rost 9 0 6 10 0 0 0 0 0 25  
4 Northeast Divers, J. Santino 7 7 7 10 0 0 0 0 0 24
4 gregstyp 1, G. Stypulkowski 8 9 7 4 0 0 0 0 0 24
6 RockyTop, J. Seal 7 7 7 4 0 0 0 0 0 21
6 danmathers 1, D. Mathers 6 7 8 5 0 0 0 0 0 21
8 Smoothmagne 1, m. magne 4 7 7 6 0 0 0 0 0 20  
8 BillTheCatt 1, T. Catt 8 4 7 5 0 0 0 0 0 20  
10 cyril_st_michael 1, C. St. Michael 10 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 18

Whose your daddy? That 0 in week 2 sucks. I'm sure it will come back to haunt me. Just happy with 3rd for now.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 05 2010,06:24
Well, the nice thing is that your lowest week doesn't count.  

Damn I suck.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 10 2010,17:02
< Nice work Delhomme >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2010,19:35
Goddamn Vikings.  Going to get field goal'd to death at this point.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2010,20:30
That kickoff return cut short the Favre-Moss circle jerk-fest.  Fucking pathetic.  Nothing but offensive penalties and shit play.
Posted by unkbill on Oct. 12 2010,15:48

(Malcolm @ Oct. 11 2010,20:30)
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That kickoff return cut short the Favre-Moss circle jerk-fest.  Fucking pathetic.  Nothing but offensive penalties and shit play.

last minute interception and the touchdown cost a friend of mine 1400$ in a football pool. I didn't tell him to take the Vikes. He may forgive me someday. But other people in the bar today road him hard. I just told him that is what Favre does. So busy trying to win a Superbowl ring to see he is throwing it all away.(Hehe) Hope the guy take more pictures of his pecker and retires in the next few weeks.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2010,17:05
I'm also betting (barring injury) that he starts every single damn game this year so he can bring the total up to 300.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2010,09:22
Since no one else has posted anything about Favre's off-field shit, I figured I'd toss a link to Ditka's opinion...

< Here >.

QUOTE
"I'm not going to be as sympathetic to the woman as a lot of people are," Ditka said. "It's two years after the fact. Cut it out, you know? If you had a problem, you could have said it back then."
...
Le Batard: "But it is sexual harassment, Mike."

"I don't know about that," Ditka said. "If it's sexual harassment, if it's not reported until two years after the fact. I really don't, I'll be honest with you."


I'll give the first statement to Mike & completely agree with him.  The second ... I'm not entirely sure.  I'm inclined to disagree.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 18 2010,08:26
Looking at the NFL this year, I'm glad I'm not a big time gambler. They've got to be losing their asses.

How great is the parity in the league?

Meanwhile in the NBA and MLB, it's all about a handful of teams and the majority of their leagues are also-rans.

On a different note, who will be the first coach fired?

John Fox? Mike Singletary? Marvin Lewis? Eric Mangini? Lovie Smith? Brad Childress? Wade Phillips? Chan Gailey? Tom Cable? Norv Turner?

I think Fox, Phillips, and Mangini are done after this year. I think Singletary, Lewis, Cable, Smith, and Gailey will get one more year to show what they've got. However, I wouldn't be stunned to see any fired.

The guy that really interests me is Norv Turner. I hesitate to say he sucks, but damn his teams are so inconsistent. I really believe the only reason he has a job still is because the GM doesn't want to lose face by firing him. Doing so would mean he was wrong to get rid of Schotemheimer (sp?) for him a few years back. How do you lose to St. Louis if you're a legit contender? Answer: You don't. The fucking Lions housed that team the previous week!!!!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2010,09:30

(Leisher @ Oct. 18 2010,10:26)
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Brad Childress?

God, I hope so.  He's got Favre, Moss, Harvin, Shiancoe, & A.P. and the fucker can still barely generate offense.
Posted by unkbill on Nov. 01 2010,22:10
Read my buddy Brett took a few lumps in the game Sunday. Fall down and go boom. Getting ready to quit or get benched. Wish the asshole would have broke his knee last year, but no he has to screw my team this year.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2010,05:13

(Malcolm @ Oct. 18 2010,12:30)
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(Leisher @ Oct. 18 2010,10:26)
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Brad Childress?

God, I hope so.  He's got Favre, Moss, Harvin, Shiancoe, & A.P. and the fucker can still barely generate offense.

Fixed.

Part of me thinks: Hell, the Skins already are mediocre/suck, why not pick him up?

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2010,09:45
Said this when we traded the fucker years ago -- he's a locker room cancer.  There's nothing he can do on the field to make up for the prick he is off it.  I almost want him to go to the Bengals so they can bring the 1-2-3 ego WRs.
Posted by unkbill on Nov. 10 2010,23:26
Thursday pick this week
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 11 2010,04:36

(unkbill @ Nov. 11 2010,02:26)
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Thursday pick this week

Worst part is I kept thinking yesterday was Thursday and was like "Oh fark - gotta pick now"

Then I kept waiting for the score of the game.

Posted by unkbill on Nov. 11 2010,22:34

(TheCatt @ Nov. 11 2010,04:36)
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(unkbill @ Nov. 11 2010,02:26)
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Thursday pick this week

Worst part is I kept thinking yesterday was Thursday and was like "Oh fark - gotta pick now"

Then I kept waiting for the score of the game.

Well I'm twelve hours ahead and it is fudging me all up. I've been afraid to look at my ticket home. Bet Inchon to Chicago is going to be a long ass flight.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2010,08:48

(TheCatt @ Nov. 11 2010,06:36)
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Worst part is I kept thinking yesterday was Thursday and was like "Oh fark - gotta pick now"

FUCK.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2010,09:34
Did the Steelers give Mike Wallace some meth later on in the game or did they just dress Hines Ward up in his jersey?
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 15 2010,10:07
Mike Wallace is way underrated. He's lightning fast and really stepped up when Ward got hurt.

The problem with the Steelers right now is that 3 of their starting 5 O line are out hurt and the two best defensive linemen are out hurt. They're getting killed on both sides of the ball in the trenches.

They might still make the playoffs, but they're really going to have to focus on this area in the draft and via free agency.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2010,10:10
I'm officially calling the Vikings dead for this season.  Their new team name is "Better than the Lions."
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 15 2010,10:16

(Malcolm @ Nov. 15 2010,13:10)
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I'm officially calling the Vikings dead for this season.  Their new team name is "Better than the Lions."

Only cuz Stafford keeps going out.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 15 2010,18:08
So in my fantasy league... Michael Turner sucked, but I was only down 25 points going into tonight's game.

She has no players playing.

I have 1... Michael Vick.

10 minutes into the game, I'm now down 4.

I'm  dying as a Skins fan... but mildly optimistic about winning the fantasy game.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 15 2010,19:19
QB Michael Vick @Was Q2 1:12, 42-14 18.36 41.16

Well, at least I won... assuming he doesn't throw like 8 interceptions.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2010,08:57
I had a 20 point lead plus LeSean McCoy going against Vick last night.

Fucking seriously.  Just what the fuck?  He somehow had 50 points by half-time.

Posted by unkbill on Nov. 16 2010,21:39
Another Thursday game this week all.
Posted by unkbill on Nov. 21 2010,12:50

(Malcolm @ Nov. 15 2010,10:10)
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I'm officially calling the Vikings dead for this season.  Their new team name is "Better than the Lions."

After today yes Vikings dead. As far as better than the lions that could still be up for debate.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2010,13:33

(unkbill @ Nov. 21 2010,14:50)
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(Malcolm @ Nov. 15 2010,10:10)
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I'm officially calling the Vikings dead for this season.  Their new team name is "Better than the Lions."

After today yes Vikings dead. As far as better than the lions that could still be up for debate.

The Lions just got clocked by the Cowboys & Jon Kitna, if that's any indication what level they're at.  The only plus about the MIN v. GB game was my starting Greg Jennings at WR in my league this week.

And given how shitty the Vikes have been, I don't feel a bit bad about it, either.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 22 2010,09:17
< Childress just got fired. >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2010,09:53

(Leisher @ Nov. 22 2010,11:17)
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< Childress just got fired. >

Sweet.  Years overdue.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 22 2010,11:16
Green Bay sure knocks out coaches well.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 22 2010,13:00
Anyone see what happened in the Steelers game?

-AFC West division leader Oakland came to town and got beat 35-3.
-The Steelers were penalized 14 times for 163 yards.
-Oakland had 182 yards total offense.
-The officiating was so bad there's an article up on ESPN accusing the NFL's officials of being out to get Pittsburgh (I wouldn't bet against it. When players rip the refs, the refs sometimes have a habit of paying them back. I know that from actual refs I know...granted, they're b-ball refs, but still...)
-Not since 1933 has a team given up that many yards in penalties and won by so much.
-The Steelers had not one, not two, but THREE TDs called back on penalties.

In other words, Oakland got steamrolled.

And what's with the trend of good teams getting beat up one week only to turn around and house someone the next week?

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2010,13:06
Some teams can barely put up a facade of being a cohesive unit.  Oakland is there, so is Minnesota currently.  Other perennial losers (the Lions, the Cowboys this year) follow the same trend.  A decent performance is the exception, not the rule.  Putting those sort of folk up against teams that do have it together sometimes results in a rout.


Posted by unkbill on Nov. 24 2010,15:05
Three picks tomorrow.
Posted by unkbill on Dec. 05 2010,10:53
Screwed, I got back late from deer season only got half my picks in.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2010,09:51
Clinched a playoff berth in my only league this year with a win over my division leader.  Now I just have to make my way through the teams with the two best records.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2010,10:21
I'm #1 in points scored in my league.  But am in 6th place at 6-6, and will probably lose this week to be 6-7.

I'm #2 in points against.

So basically, i have the best team in the league, but almost the worst luck.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2010,12:25

(TheCatt @ Dec. 06 2010,12:21)
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I'm #1 in points scored in my league.  But am in 6th place at 6-6, and will probably lose this week to be 6-7.

I'm #2 in points against.

So basically, i have the best team in the league, but almost the worst luck.

There's at least three games I've lost by ten points or fewer.  I've got the highest points against (far and away) of anyone that made it in the playoffs.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 06 2010,13:18
I qualified for the playoffs yesterday with a 7-6 record. That made me the wild card team with the best record and I was tied with a division winner.

Our fantasy league's year was as weird as the NFL's.

Similar to Catt, I'm #2 in points for and #2 in points against. My division leader is 10-2 and has scored well over 100 points less than me.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 07 2010,08:07
Second place in my league, with a first round bye next week. (Which I came within a point of losing thanks to FUCKING TOM BRADY) (Alternatively WORTHLESS DWAYNE BOWE)

I have more points scored than the leader, but the third place guy has like 150 more points than everyone else (Vick effect)

Posted by Troy on Dec. 07 2010,08:07
Second place in my league, with a first round bye next week. (Which I came within a point of losing thanks to FUCKING TOM BRADY) (Alternatively WORTHLESS DWAYNE BOWE)

I have more points scored than the leader, but the third place guy has like 150 more points than everyone else (Vick effect)

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2010,08:55
Of the teams in playoffs in my league ... points for, points against, and records

For           Against
1584 1335   ... Lucky motherfucker ... 10-3
1737 1531 ... 9-4
1437 1282   ... What the hell? ... 9-4
1682 1501   ... 8-5
1571 1617   ... Me ... Highest points against of any team .500 or over, second-highest of any team in the postseason, third overall.

The two teams that have more points against than me?
1573 1633 5-8 ... Slides into the playoffs in the last spot.
1560 1619        5-8

I damn near always have the highest points against of any team in the playoffs.   Those two dudes in the 1200-1300 range, I don't know how the HELL they get so fucking lucky, because they've always got the lowest points against every goddamn year.  That stat drives me insane because it's the one bit you have no control over.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2010,13:34
Boo, suck, I'm out of the playoffs.  We only had a 4 team playoff (out of 10).
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2010,16:41

(TheCatt @ Dec. 07 2010,15:34)
QUOTE
Boo, suck, I'm out of the playoffs.  We only had a 4 team playoff (out of 10).

I slid in with #5 seed.  Another week & I could've overtaken the #3 and #4 dudes, probably.
Posted by unkbill on Dec. 12 2010,10:24
Catt didn't make your picks this week?
Heard a good one about Farve. Why would any team want to hurt the shoulder he uses to throw so many interceptions with?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2010,10:25
< Minnesota Vikings: Now, one stop closer to being the Lions >.
Posted by unkbill on Dec. 12 2010,11:06

(Malcolm @ Dec. 12 2010,10:25)
QUOTE
< Minnesota Vikings: Now, one stop closer to being the Lions >.

The video of it from inside was awesome. As far as being Lions. Isn't it funny where they are playing tomorrow night.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 12 2010,12:17

(unkbill @ Dec. 12 2010,13:24)
QUOTE
Catt didn't make your picks this week?
Heard a good one about Farve. Why would any team want to hurt the shoulder he uses to throw so many interceptions with?

I gave up.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2010,10:50
Dome game canceled due to snow, but the Chicago game took place, in the same storm.

Domes suck.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2010,11:19

(TheCatt @ Dec. 13 2010,12:50)
QUOTE
Dome game canceled due to snow, but the Chicago game took place, in the same storm.

Domes suck.

Places like that are built to be exposed to the elements.  I don't think the interior of the Metrodome is.  And that could be the death knell for that place.

Twins have their own stadium, Wild have their own, T-Wolves have their own (for all dozen of their fans), college team has their own big-ass stadium, Vikes are probably going to demand their own, now.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2010,19:00

(Malcolm @ Dec. 06 2010,11:51)
QUOTE
Clinched a playoff berth in my only league this year with a win over my division leader.  Now I just have to make my way through the teams with the two best records.

One down, one to go.  Had a couple slackers last week that made me nervous a bit.  Can't afford such that this week.  Taking on the #1 seed.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 15 2010,20:36
I was knocked out as soon as Aaron Rogers went down.

QUOTE
Vikes are probably going to demand their own, now.


You must have missed Magic Johnson a few weeks back when he said he was trying to help move an existing NFL team to LA. Minnesota wound up being the speculated team and a new arena was mentioned as being needed to keep them there.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2010,20:39
QUOTE
I was knocked out as soon as Aaron Rogers went down.

That killed Greg Jennings for me.  He was gold right before that.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 15 2010,22:02
#1 in points.  #1 in points against.

Welcome to 6th place, me (out of 10).

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2010,11:14
Shall I keep Jennings in this week, despite the probably loss of Rodgers?  It's not like GB's second-stringer isn't going to have to throw a lot against NE and he's as likely to get targeted as anyone.  The alternatives are starting...

Derrick Mason
Chad Ochocinco
Owen Daniels
Mike Thomas

Based on Owen's past week, I'm tempted to start him as he looked to be back to his old self for the first time in a bit.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 17 2010,17:04
The Ravens will be passing a lot too considering they're going to get scored on a lot.

Ochocinco is the second option on that team behind TO.

Owen Daniels dropped a ton of balls last week.

Who is Mike Thomas?

Flynn was BRUTAL against Detroit. How do you think he's going to do against New England?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 18 2010,16:30
Every week, the Ravens seem to alternate between Boldin & Mason as the go-to dude.  Daniels, despite all the dropped balls, injuries, etc., is still the #2 dude behind Andre Johnson, who routinely gets double-teamed.  Mike Thomas is the Wes Welker of Jacksonville.  The real problem there is the last word in that sentence.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 19 2010,13:25
Ray Rice has just saved my ass in a big, big way.  I'm up by about 20 with Atlanta's D, Welker, and Hines Ward versus Tom Brady and Gronkowski.  Will be close.
Posted by Troy on Dec. 19 2010,13:26
I was up by like 30 against a guy playing the entire Eagles Offense. Then the fourth quarter happened. Fuck me.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 19 2010,15:08

(Troy @ Dec. 19 2010,15:26)
QUOTE
I was up by like 30 against a guy playing the entire Eagles Offense. Then the fourth quarter happened. Fuck me.

If I win this week, next week is the team that's just had Arian Foster & Mike Vick taking turns crushing the opposition.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 19 2010,17:18
Ugh.  I'm up 5, we each have 1 player left.

I have GB's defense.  He has NE's defense.

Sigh. I meant to drop GB's D after Rodgers went out, oh well.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 19 2010,18:14
Welker needs to get his standard ~20 PPR league points so I can go to the bar without worrying.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 19 2010,19:47
New England's D is getting rung by a second-string pseudo-Favre.  But since it's killing their offense, go for it.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 19 2010,20:33
One more week till total victory.


Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2010,12:02
I have 15 more points than any other team in the league this week.

Except the team I'm playing... who was the #7 seed in our tourney (I'm #6).

Seriously, worst luck ev4r.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2010,17:35
29 years of the dome, no super bowls, versus 4 in the prior 15 years.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2010,20:42
Favre looks done.  Permanently.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2010,09:36
Everyone pray Mike Vick gets shot or something so I can seriously fuck with the dude I'm playing this week.  He's had a two-month period where he hasn't lost because Vick, even on the shittiest of days, gets at least 30 fucking points.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 26 2010,14:51
Vick is my only prayer of getting 7th place in my league.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2010,08:47
I had too many of my starters do a shitload of nothing yesterday.
Posted by Troy on Dec. 27 2010,09:10
I scored enough points that if Vick hadn't have gone off and knocked me out last weekend, I would have gotten 1st. Typical.


Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2010,10:20
Well, I've got 3 players left (including Vick and Turner), and down 13 points.  GO 7TH PLACE!
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 27 2010,12:41
< Singletary fired. >

That's four down. John Fox is certain to join the party. How many more after that?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2010,12:47

(Leisher @ Dec. 27 2010,14:41)
QUOTE
< Singletary fired. >

That's four down. John Fox is certain to join the party. How many more after that?

I'm betting the Bills are going to ax their coach.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2010,17:47
My ranks: (10 team league)

Points scored: #1
QB: #2 (Vick)
RBs: #2 and #8 (Hillis and Turner)
WRs: #2, 7, 9, and 12
TE: #4
K: #5
Def: #3

Rank: #6 regular season... and currently playing for the #7 position, assuming that Vick can score >9 points.

WTF?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2010,20:24
Hines Ward & Wes Welker fucking sandbagged it for me this week.  So did Ray Rice and Phil Rivers to an extent.  Didn't even have a bad week.  Just not a kick-ass one.  Which my opponent did.  150 fucking points.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2010,20:26
My RBs sucked this week, combined 7 pts for Hillis and Turner.

I still won, but barely.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2011,12:16
Interesting year.

Big Ben learned not everyone thinks he should be given everything he wants.

Favre learned time exists.

Albert Haynesworth might have set free agency back 10 years.

The NFL is on the precipice of a major PR blunder.

We learned the league hates defense.

Minnesota had about as bad a season as possible (sorry guys).

Detroit looks like a threat next year. No seriously.

A 7-9 team just won their division and will host the defending champs in a playoff game. Again, seriously.

12 teams made the playoffs, but we're being told only one matters. Fuck NE and Tom Brady.

I see NO routing Seattle, GB upsetting Phily (although I wouldn't be shocked to see Phily in the SB), the Ravens over the Chiefs, and the Colts over the Jets.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2011,12:18
NO
Philly
Ravens
Jets

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2011,12:41
QUOTE
Favre learned time exists.

He was mentally done when he tossed that pick in the NO playoff game last year.  I think he was physically done when he got sacked during the second quarter on the ground of the TCF Bank Stadium a couple weeks ago.  It's nice to think that Brett Favre may have played his last game and taken his last hit, perhaps on the very spot where I used to park my car.  Fucker should've hung it up permanently years ago.

QUOTE
Detroit looks like a threat next year. No seriously.

If they can stop self-destructing in 75% of the games they play, maybe.  They're also in one of the two shittiest divisions in the NFL.

QUOTE
The NFL is on the precipice of a major PR blunder.

Which one?  There's more than a couple to choose from.

The Jets and Colts I'm not sure about.  There's been plenty of games Indy wanted to win this year and they couldn't do it.  In years prior, they could seemingly pull a win out of their ass at will.  The Jets also look like a legit team when Sanchez is on.  His consistency as a QB is nowhere near Peyton's, though.  The running game from either team isn't exactly blowing me away, either.

GB could take out Philly if Aaron Rodgers is on.  Then again, maybe a part of me just wants to watch Vick suffer.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2011,12:44
Philly has kinda sucked these last few games.  No surprise if GB pulls it off.

As for two worst divisions:
NFC West
AFC South

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2011,12:49
Detroit still gets to play some not terribly difficult teams twice a year.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2011,12:59
QUOTE
If they can stop self-destructing in 75% of the games they play, maybe.  They're also in one of the two shittiest divisions in the NFL.


I completely disagree. The Bears are the #2 seed in the NFC and the Packers are the most dangerous #6 since the Steelers in 2004. Meanwhile the Vikings are Bret Favre from last shy of being in the playoffs. The NFC North is not a weak division.

The NFC West, without a doubt, is the single weakest division in football. It's impossible to argue.

#2 is a good question. For this year alone, Catt might have a point about the AFC South. However, I'd argue that the Colts were injury plagued, and the Texans are a defensive effort away from being a playoff contender. Hell, the Jaguars were in the playoffs until the final week, and the Titans are one good quarterback away from being a contender.

I think the AFC West is the second weakest division currently. SD is a horribly coached and managed team. The Raiders were a pretender, but rising. The Chiefs are good, but a fraud this year. And the Broncos imploded.

Ask me this the last several years and you would have heard the AFC East. I think that's something overlooked in the Patriots' recent history. They've played in a cupcake division for years. The Jets, Bills, and Dolphins have more history behind their names than recent wins.

QUOTE
Which one?  There's more than a couple to choose from.


CBA



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2011,13:04
QUOTE
the Titans are one good quarterback away from being a contender

They need more than a QB.  If you want to talk shittily managed teams, Tennessee goes near the top of my list.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 08 2011,20:03
Wow, great couple of games today.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 08 2011,20:07
Stunning upset in Seattle and with the Colts out, we'll have two new teams in the Super Bowl this year.

Steelers get the winner of tomorrow's Chiefs-Ravens game.

Does it get more fitting in the AFC this year than Jets-Patriots and Steelers-Ravens?

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 08 2011,20:17
That'd be kinda awesome.  And, since those are the only four teams worth a damn in the AFC...
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 09 2011,05:56
Bah.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2011,12:27
I just want to see Vick lose in the first round.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2011,22:15

(Malcolm @ Jan. 09 2011,14:27)
QUOTE
I just want to see Vick lose in the first round.

Sweet.  Fuck you, Vick.
Posted by unkbill on Jan. 10 2011,05:07
Green Bay lucked out. Not that I care. But it could have went south on them very quickly.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 10 2011,06:04
Outside of Kansas City-Baltimore, some very good games this weekend.

That Marshawn Lynch run was the stuff of legend. Not sure if that was his effort or more the Saints' lack of effort. I saw 9 really lazy attempts at a tackle and 1 attempt to strip the ball instead of tackle. Back to back Super Bowl winners seem even more impressive to me lately. I see SB winners play flat and lazy year after year. Tough to fire your team up to win another SB right after winning one.

The Jets beat Manning by not blitzing. I think they were also helped by the Art Shell impression Caldwell is doing on the sideline. Give this idiot ANY other quarterback in the league and Indy goes 5-11 if they're lucky.

GB-Philly I only saw parts of thanks to my kids. Still, I expected the outcome. Vick has had an amazing year, but people seem to forget that he wasn't that good in Atlanta. Yeah, I know all his numbers now are better, but that's because he's listening to his coaches now. (His words.) The problem isn't his talent though, it's his head. He still can't read defenses, he still stares down receivers, and he still makes bad choices. Watching Philly in the offseason should be interesting. Will they keep Kolb or trade him away? You've got to think Arizona or San Francisco would love to get him. Also, Philly might be the town that keeps putting too much into good, but not great QBs.

Baltimore-KC was crap. And despite Cassell's 70 yards passing this game was a lot closer until late in the third when KC starting turning the ball over every drive inside their own 20. That helped hide the fact that Baltimore's offense didn't look that good.

This upcoming weekend:
GB at Atlanta - I'll take GB. They just seem to be on a roll.

Seattle at Chicago - Chicago should win, but how great would it be if Seattle pulled off the upset? They did win there earlier this year...

Jets at Patriots - Patriots win. Might be another rout depending on Sanchez.

Ravens at Steelers - Hopefully the Steelers without a lot of people getting injured.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2011,06:35
We were one touchdown away from every home team losing this past weekend, and only 4 divisions being left in the playoffs.

Atlanta
Chicago
Patriots
Steelers

I was 2/4 last weekend, but the teams I cheered for were 4/4.  i should hire myself out as a fan.  That has worked so well for the Redskins and Panther lately.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 10 2011,06:45
QUOTE
I was 2/4 last weekend, but the teams I cheered for were 4/4.


Please root for the Steelers. Thank you.

Also, root for the Jets so the Steelers can play them in Pittsburgh. Thanks again!

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 14 2011,06:34
Watching the media's coverage of the NFL's upcoming games this weekend, and I have to say that I've been quite irritated by the bias in reporting.

Every outlet can only talk about one game, Jets at Patriots (New York versus Boston).

The last time these two teams met, which was earlier this year, the Patriots won 45-3. How exciting.

Meanwhile, the NFL's best current rivalry Pittsburgh versus Baltimore is going to take place and what happened the last time these two met in the playoffs? The winner went on to win the Super Bowl. I guess that's not very important though.

Interestingly, these two teams met on the same week the Patriots beat the Jets by 42 points. In that game, the Steelers won by 3 in a nail biter. Multiple players were hurt, including Big Ben getting his nose broken.

Up in the Patriots-Jets game I think Brady broke a nail.

And did you know that there's a whole other conference in the NFL? Apparently, Atlanta has an NFL franchise and is hosting the Green Bay Packers this weekend. I don't blame you if you didn't know this since nobody is talking about it.

In Chicago, the streaky Bears are hosting the NFL's only team to ever make the playoffs with a losing record. They also happen to be the only team to win a playoff game with a losing record. More interestingly, these Seattle Seahawks beat the defending Super Bowl champions last week and now play a Chicago team they beat earlier in the year. NFL history is happening and the media doesn't care because Brady is playing against Rex Ryan's crew of overpaid nobodies.

Yet another reason to hate the MSM. Although, I have gained respect for the few columnists who have actually pointed this slant in coverage out like < David Flemming of ESPN's Page 2. >

ESPN's HQ should be based out of someplace without any local sports so they give fair reporting to all games. How about Eastern Montana?

In related news, did anyone see Suggs' recent interview where somehow Brady's name was brought up in comparison to Big Ben. Suggs, who HATES the Steelers, said Big Ben was by far the better QB. When reminded of Brady's accomplishments, Suggs went on to say "let's see how he won those Super Bowls...the tuck rule incident, the video taping of other teams...and he's the only QB in the league who can tell the officials when to throw a flag."

Ouch!!! You know if Suggs is saying it, other players feel the same way.

I was so happy to hear him say that stuff because I've been going nuts since the videotaping scandal due to all the credit the Patriots get. They got caught cheating during their super bowl runs yet NOBODY talks about it. It's stunning. They haven't won shit since they got busted, but NOBODY brings that up. Why? Why is Belicheck considered a mastermind when he was caught cheating? Why isn't Brady's legacy forever tarnished FOR CHEATING, yet Brett Favre's legacy is forever damaged because he likes women?!?!? WTF? It's insanity.

(Sorry for the ranting. It's Friday and aside from dealing AT&T again, I've had a light work week.)

Posted by Troy on Jan. 14 2011,08:16
All of the sporting sites that I go to are talking about how good the Ravens v Steelers game and rivalry is. If you are getting your sporting news from like CNN or some other general news site, what are you expecting?


ESPN even made a cool photoshop for it.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 14 2011,08:30
ESPN and FOX Sports, particularly their radio and TV shows.

Sure, they talk about Ravens-Steelers for a minute, then spend 5 on Jets-Patriots. Pretty much zero on the NFC. It's ridiculous.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 14 2011,08:30
Yeah, I agree that the NFC has been ignored, but I haven't seen more Pats/Jets coverage than Steelers/Ravens.  In fact, I thought I'd seen more Steelers/Ravens, especially the whole "series has tied # of points, Steelers lead by 1 game, etc, etc" facts.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2011,08:40
Favre's legacy is damaged because he's a wishy-washy multiple-time retiree douchebag.
Posted by Troy on Jan. 14 2011,11:06
Woah. I lazily hotlinked to the ESPN site.

They switched Ben and Polamalu's heads at some point. Ben's head looks waaaay worse.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2011,11:29
Where's the knife that goes in Ray Lewis's hand?
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 14 2011,11:45
< Polamalu gets AFC Player of the Year award. >

Duh.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 15 2011,14:21
Fumble.  Good goddamn.  And NO ONE picked that up.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 16 2011,08:19
I didn't have any dog in the Steelers/Ravens, so I let my daughter decide, and she said we should cheer for the yellow team.

So you are welcome.

To the teams: If there is a ball on the ground, always jump on it.  Just like if someone hits the ground, make sure he's actually down.

1/2 on picks, 2/2 on cheering for.... that makes me 3/6 and 6/6 respectively.  

I'm definitely cheering the Jets, picking Pats... no idea on the NFC game, just don't care about either team.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 16 2011,10:14
Thank you.

I thought the game was over after the first half and that ridiculous fumble. (22 guys on the field that have played football since they were little kids, and only 1 is smart enough to pick it up?!?)

I just couldn't see how the Steelers could overcome a 14 point deficit in a series where the winning team usually scores 17 points. Not to mention that the Steelers looked terrible in the first half. Turnovers, penalties, bad calls, sloppy play, zero energy, etc.

Well something happened at halftime to fire them up, and the teams switched roles in the second half. Great game.

Meanwhile, what the hell happened in Atlanta? When's the last time a #1 seed was routed at home?

I think the Bears win today setting up an interesting outdoor match up next week.

I'll also be rooting for the Jets, but think the Patriots will win.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 16 2011,10:32
QUOTE
Well something happened at halftime to fire them up, and the teams switched roles in the second half. Great game.

As much as the Steelers looked better after the half the Ravens looked fucking worse.  Holy dear Jeebus, that was an implosion of epic proportions.  They looked like the Baltimore Vikings/Minnesota Ravens most of the second half.

QUOTE
Meanwhile, what the hell happened in Atlanta? When's the last time a #1 seed was routed at home?

Regular season performance isn't the greatest indicator of postseason performance, either.  I've never been a fan of Atlanta's D under any kind of real pressure.  I do not doubt their ability to run up points.

But there looks to be an asymmetry in football (and many sports) ...
There's more ways to stop a kick-ass offense than there are ways to get through a kick-ass defense.  If your D can't hold out the other team the majority of the time, you lose.  If your offense works 50% of the time, you'd call it god-like.  

The Falcons D got lit up like a Christmas tree on the Fourth of July.  GB's D didn't have that great of a day either, but when your opponent lets in 40+, all you need to do to be safe is keep it under 30 (which any average D can do on an average day).  That was the entire philosophy that led the Greatest Show on Turf win a Super Bowl about a decade ago.  GB's D was average, Atlanta's was hideous.  But since GB's offense was on the field so much (GB's ToP was ~38m, Atlanta's ToP was ~22m), their average D was probably pretty well rested, which only made them play better against an Atlanta offense that couldn't take the slugfest.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 16 2011,10:36
Seattle owes their punter a raise.  He just did correctly what a shitload of special teams players have fucked up.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 16 2011,16:48
SUCK IT PATS!

7-7 on teams cheered for (I ignored the NFC game today)...

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 16 2011,17:25
I'll call GB v. Steelers.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 16 2011,19:51
I'd like to see Bears versus Steelers as I think that maybe that's a better matchup for the Steelers than the pass happy Packers, but who knows?

If the Steelers play like they did in the first half this week, they won't be in the Super Bowl.

If they play like they did in the second half, they can beat anyone.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 17 2011,07:52
A little tidbit that is getting little press this weekend is the revelation that New England has been doing those punt walls since before the Jets got caught. This was hinted at previously, but apparently they have it on tape.

Funny how the media isn't going nuts with this little tidbit like they did when the Jets got caught.

This is the third year the Patriots have been one and done in the playoffs. They haven't won a Super Bowl since they got caught cheating, "Spygate". Now they have been caught on video cheating again.

Can we please stop calling Bill Belicheck the best football coach in the world?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 23 2011,18:23
And Sanchez chokes in the red zone.  Game over.  Hello GB v. Steelers.

EDIT : Wow.  Fortunately, Big Ben chokes bigger.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 23 2011,18:53
Amazing how important chemistry is between a center and quarterback.

That second half was like watching the Sugar Bowl all over again. Up huge and go ridiculously conservative. I hate that.

Still...Super Bowl bound!!!

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2011,11:28
Saw the story today about Palmer wanting a trade out of Cincinnati and < Mike Brown's response > and had to say something.

You want to see the difference between teams like Pittsburgh, New England, etc. and teams like Cincinnati? Here it is:
QUOTE
The Bengals have made no significant changes coming off a 4-12 season. Coach Marvin Lewis returned even though Brown said the front office didn't need to change. The Bengals have only two winning records in the last 20 years.


Meanwhile, Palmer says he's going to retire if not traded, TO is a free agent, Ochocinco will probably be gone, Benson is a free agent and will probably leave, and one of their other big name guys is a free agent (can't remember who though).

If you're a free agent, why would you stay or go to this franchise? It's obvious that they're committed to mediocrity.

I actually think it has to be worse to be a Cincy fan than a Browns fan. At least the Browns try...

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2011,13:06
He's calling a retirement bluff on a dude that's been making seven figures a year for ... I dunno, how long now?  Yeah, that's a brilliant gamble.  Fuck, if you just straight up gave me a $100,000 head start once, I could probably retire right now and live the remainder of my life comfortably.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 06 2011,14:06
Catt, do me a favor and root for the Steelers tonight?

The Packers are the team I least wanted the Steelers to face.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 06 2011,17:36
Steel Curtain a bit rusty, Leish?


Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 06 2011,19:51
Sorry, Leisher... I was rooting for the Packers.

I'm not sure if this is a rule, but I generally root for whoever won the Super Bowl least recently.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 06 2011,20:28
Steel Curtain was fine. I figured they wouldn't stop Rogers the whole game, but the 4 injuries, no penalties for the Packers, and two turnovers in the first half killed them. Without the three turnovers, the Steelers win that game easily. Ben played like shit too and that didn't help.

Oh well, 6 wins in 8 Super Bowls in still pretty good. I don't hate Green Bay, so it doesn't hurt that much. Losing to Arizona would've sucked a lot more.

Not bad for a team picked to finish third in their division.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 06 2011,21:30
Since Favre is gone, it's hard to hate the Pack-Queers as much.  And Jennings saved my ass in a few games this season.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 07 2011,06:02
I did cheer for a close game one GB went up 14-0, though. :)
Posted by Paul on Feb. 07 2011,11:26

(TheCatt @ Feb. 07 2011,06:02)
QUOTE
I did cheer for a close game one GB went up 14-0, though. :)

It was down to 3 with just a few minutes left in the 4th.
Posted by TheCatt on May 26 2011,13:45
< OSU football program.... >

QUOTE
Hundreds of Buckeye players and ex-players were potentially involved. There were thousands and thousands of items, jerseys, cleats and so on available to be profited off. There was a player’s parking lot full of cars mostly bought from just two used car lots. There were question upon question over behavior that shouldn’t pass anyone’s smell test waiting to be answered.

Yet Smith said the Buckeyes had checked it all out in 11 days flat.

No other NCAA violations …

Sitting next to Smith was coach Jim Tressel, who in fact had committed other NCAA violations all by himself. Eight months prior he’d been made aware of the memorabilia sales but stayed quiet and covered it up. He then knowingly played ineligible players for the entire 2010 season and then let his athletic director lie for him that December night.

So far, I'm just stunned that nothing more has happened.  And I still can't believe the players weren't banned from the post season game.

Posted by TheCatt on May 26 2011,13:46
QUOTE
Earlier this week, former Buckeye basketball player Mark Titus wrote on his blog that he’d long been curious of how football players kept driving cars beyond the means of most students, let alone scholarship athletes. “I’ll be shocked if the NCAA doesn’t find anything when they look into this car scandal,” he wrote.

I always wondered the same thing about UNC basketball players, quite frankly.  Brand new SUVs, driving around campus, "on loan" from dealerships, or some such.

Posted by Leisher on May 26 2011,18:19
QUOTE
So far, I'm just stunned that nothing more has happened.


Me too.

I don't care for Yahoo Sports as they are famously anti-Big Ten, but the article makes good points, especially with what happened at USC today.

Everyone here thinks the hammer is going to get dropped on OSU and the NCAA has to make an example out of them after letting Cam Newton and Auburn off the hook to protect the national title game.

The problem with that is that the NCAA let Cam Newton and Auburn off the hook. Meanwhile, they blasted USC, and now are going after Oregon. Bye Bye Pac 10. The Big 12 is decimated, and is really a two dog show (if that). The Big East is a joke. The ACC hasn't been the same in years. Notre Dame hasn't been a true contender in many decades. Of the small schools, Boise State is now under investigation. Taking Ohio State off the board means the Big Ten is less relevant.

Who is going to play the SEC darling of the year in the national title game?

No wonder the SEC dominates college football, outside of Tennessee, nobody gets busted for shit. Over the last two years, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, and South Carolina have all been under investigation for serious violations. To date, only Tennessee has faced any punishment. Meanwhile, the NCAA does it's best to take out any decent competition in other conferences.  :D  

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And I still can't believe the players weren't banned from the post season game.


Why? What's more important, a multimillion dollar deal with corporate sponsors or punishing some kids for getting free or 50% off tattoos? The NCAA had no choice.

Again, let me point out that Cam Newton played in the national championship game. They caught him with both hands in the cookie jar, but punishing him would have been a disaster because the scandal broke too late. If Auburn had lost a late game, I think the NCAA would have miraculously found evidence against him.

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I always wondered the same thing about UNC basketball players, quite frankly.  Brand new SUVs, driving around campus, "on loan" from dealerships, or some such.


EVERY school has players who cheat. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. Hell, even Harvard and Yale students get preferential treatment.

While I don't think these athletes should be given massive salaries (they already get a free education at the school of their choice), I do think more could be done by the schools to reign them in, and more done by the NCAA to acknowledge that taking classes and participating in a full time sport is difficult enough without also trying to fit in a part time job to help make ends meet.

Back to OSU, I personally think it could go either way.

The NCAA's recent letter of charges seemed to suggest that they didn't hold the school responsible for the majority of the infractions, but that Tressell was in trouble. I wouldn't be surprised to see similar sanctions that USC got or minor sanctions on OSU, but the end of Jim Tressel at Ohio State. In fact, no matter what, I think we've seen the end of Jim. Pretty sad considering had he told the school back when he first found out, neither he nor the school would be facing ANY sanctions.

Posted by WSGrundy on May 26 2011,19:30
I don't get why all the TV personalities are acting so shocked about Tressel. There have been players getting in trouble for stuff or being found out after they left school all through his run in college. Clarrett, Holmes, Smith, etc. Plus shady stuff was going on at Youngstown St. I don't know how much he knew about so saying that he was encouraging it or was just putting his head in the sand and not wanting to know about it is up for debate. You listen to the talking heads and they keep saying stuff like "Well if you can't believe Tressel who can you believe?" The answer is nobody because there are kids taking money at all schools but how is this a big shock?

I do remember telling my wife who is an osu fan that he was going to get them in trouble when he was hired because crooked things were going on at Youngstown.

Posted by Leisher on May 26 2011,19:42
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that he was going to get them in trouble when he was hired because crooked things were going on at Youngstown.


I said the same thing about Rodriguez and Michigan.

Posted by TheCatt on May 27 2011,06:08
I'll be surprised if Tressel is still there, and there isn't some larger institutional punishment.  It's one thing to have the head coach not know (these teams are huge, kids are going to do dumb things).  But to know about it, and do nothing.  

As for Newton, the only thing they could prove is that the dad shopped him around, and that he didn't go to the place from which his dad demanded money.  To me, the kid is innocent.  Banning his dad from football contact (or whatever they did), is just dumb though.  

Crap like this is just going to continue to happen though as long as the colleges are the lower league of pro football.  Honestly, I'm fine with them getting more stipends, resources, or whatever it takes through college.  The NCAA < is already a fraud. >  The Fiesta Bowl should have been removed, or given the death penalty.

Posted by Leisher on May 27 2011,09:23
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I'll be surprised if Tressel is still there, and there isn't some larger institutional punishment.  It's one thing to have the head coach not know (these teams are huge, kids are going to do dumb things).  But to know about it, and do nothing.  


Thing is, Tressel nor the school set this benefit up. Tressel found out and hid it, but once the school actually found out they self-reported immediately. That's what the NCAA's letter said too.

I'd be stunned if the school gets hammered really hard, but I expect Tressel and the players to get hit pretty big. In fact, I think Tressel is a dead man walking.

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As for Newton, the only thing they could prove is that the dad shopped him around, and that he didn't go to the place from which his dad demanded money.  To me, the kid is innocent.  Banning his dad from football contact (or whatever they did), is just dumb though.  


That's not true though. Newton texted one of the guys involved a statement like "I'm going to Auburn because the money is too good." He knew what was going on. We're not talking about Tebow, this is Newton. His record coming into Auburn was already really shitty and people were wondering why he was still eligible at all. NCAA violations AND criminal activity on campus were in his immediate past before arriving at Auburn.

The NCAA didn't bother to go looking for those texts during their "investigation". That's why a lot of people are so critical of them right now. The first thing they did in the Tressel situation was ask for records of phone calls and texts. When the Newton story first broke we learned that all communication was done via phone calls and texts. The NCAA didn't bother looking there, why?

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Honestly, I'm fine with them getting more stipends, resources, or whatever it takes through college.


The whole system needs to be re-evaluated.

Posted by TheCatt on May 27 2011,09:41
Do you have links for that? I've never heard that Cam sent texts like that.
Posted by Leisher on May 27 2011,23:56
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Do you have links for that? I've never heard that Cam sent texts like that.


No, I don't. This is just my memory of the story when it was first coming out, BEFORE it was really getting big national attention. I could be remembering things incorrectly, but I'm 99% sure that I'm not. I know of two other people who claim to remember the same quote, but I also know people who never heard it, like you.

This quote came from the former Miss State player who was trying to recruit Cam. He's the one who talked to the feds. And FYI, that's the interesting twist to the Cam Newton situation. The feds haven't cleared (or arrested) anyone. I know I'm not the only person who has pointed that out either.

The information about the NCAA not going after the phone records I've seen in various places as criticism for how differently they're handling the Tressel case versus the Cam case.

Cam Newton was dirty. He knew what was going on with his father. Every single person on the Miss State side of that story said Cam was fully aware of what was going on, yet the NCAA cleared him? Bullshit.

Posted by TheCatt on May 30 2011,06:28
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Report: Tressel resigns

The Columbus Dispatch says Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel has resigned from his job amid growing scrutiny.

Well, there we go.

Posted by WSGrundy on May 30 2011,11:58
OSU must feel they are going to get nailed or knew they would and are now praying for a lesser punishment. I am guessing a little worse then whatever usc got.

Perhaps that rumored SI story is coming out and maybe it does has some major issues for osu.



Posted by WSGrundy on May 30 2011,15:55
Looks like there NCAA is opening a new investigation into pryor.
Posted by Malcolm on May 30 2011,16:46
Publicly crucify them all.  College sports are rapidly reaching parity with professional ones with respect to general douchiness and corruption.


Posted by Leisher on May 30 2011,18:50
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I am guessing a little worse then whatever usc got.


That seems to be the wishful thinking from all the fans of schools that Tressel dominated for the past decade. I don't say that to be mocking, but as a serious point.

As things stand, the school didn't know about the infractions, and the minute it did, it reported them. That was NOT the case with USC, which is why they got hammered. This is echoed in the letter the NCAA sent OSU. Suggesting anything more at this stage is nothing more than hate fueled speculation.

The focus of this scandal has always been on when Tressel found out about the players getting perks and the players themselves. Remember, EVERYONE keeps saying that this wouldn't even be a story if Tressel had reported it the day he got that email.

And for precedent looking no further than Cam Newton. Auburn wasn't under investigation (in that case), only Cam Newton. And this was despite former players coming out during that investigation admitting that Auburn gave them perks. (I love how people forget these little details.)

Tressel is now gone, but he is still going to get hammered. That will prevent him from ever coaching again.

As for the players, I think their punishment is probably done, except Pryor. It wouldn't stun me to see him booted and banned from the program.

Again, as it stands, I think the school will have to forfeit some losses, probably not be eligible for a bowl game next year, loss a handful of scholarships, etc.

If things get worse, in terms of the school knowing (the big key people keep forgetting about), then I think they face much bigger sanctions.

On a side note, I do find it interesting that since this story has broken the NCAA is now having meetings about increasing benefits to players.

Let's be honest, anyone who thinks this isn't going on at their favorite school is a fool. The big problem for the NCAA is that with communications the way they are now they've got to change the rules now before every school is suspended. You don't think that will happen? Do you know how many people are involved with college athletics? Do you know how many will gladly grab their 15 minutes of fame due to something like this? The longer this goes on with OSU, the more chance of someone else coming out about a different school. Hell, I guarantee that there are former players out there right now from schools across the nation either writing or contemplating books on their experiences.

I think that no matter what happens to OSU or Oregon or Boise State or the school that gets caught up in a scandal tomorrow, the NCAA will have to dramatically alter its way of doing business in the next 10 years.

Posted by WSGrundy on May 30 2011,22:13
The SI article pretty much just lays out that tressel has been at the very least putting his head in the sand over what his players were doing. The stuff below is just part of the article but one that just made me laugh. Why would a player choose a school because of cleats or little shit? Why even do this? I think this makes him look the worst.

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One of Tressel's duties then was to organize and run the Buckeyes' summer camp. Most of the young players who attended it would never play college football, but a few were top prospects whom Ohio State was recruiting. At the end of camp, attendees bought tickets to a raffle with prizes such as cleats and a jersey. According to his fellow assistant, Tressel rigged the raffle so that the elite prospects won -- a potential violation of NCAA rules. Says the former colleague, who asked not to be identified because he still has ties to the Ohio State community, "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

Posted by Leisher on May 31 2011,07:12
< The article. >

< A summary if you don't want to read it all. >

Despite the new allegations (and there's really nothing stunning in the new allegations, it's just more of the same), it's still all about Tressel.

What a way to go.

Bye bye coaching, bye bye AD job, bye bye personal appearances, bye bye commentating, etc.

Oh, and FYI, Tressel wasn't the big recruiter for OSU. The guy taking the interim job, he's the guy who gets the kids to the school. (The best recruiters are typically an assistant, not the head coach.)



Posted by TheCatt on May 31 2011,07:32
I don't think you can say "bye bye commentating," cuz let's face it - you have to say something "racist" to be banned from that.

But yeah, Tressel clearly knew something, and didn't say anything.

Posted by Leisher on May 31 2011,07:40
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I don't think you can say "bye bye commentating," cuz let's face it - you have to say something "racist" to be banned from that.


I originally had "(I assume)" behind the commentating comment, but deleted it during an edit.

You're right, of course. However, I don't think a commentating job will be coming anytime soon unless he completely opens up about his mistakes.

That's pretty much the only move he has left to salvage credibility.

Posted by Malcolm on May 31 2011,18:03
Marv Albert got his job back.  So did Pat O'Brien.

Jimmy the Greek should've held back for another two decades and I bet he would've been in the clear.  You can do a lot of despicable shit and still get a commentating job.



Posted by WSGrundy on May 31 2011,18:38
How much longer does the A.D. hold on to his job. He has to be on his way out. Maybe he stays around till the punishment is handed down and then he is fired.

Plus if this is going to spill over into the basketball team the president might be in some trouble also.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 05 2011,00:19
< Everywhere... >

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Marv Albert got his job back.  So did Pat O'Brien.

Jimmy the Greek should've held back for another two decades and I bet he would've been in the clear.  You can do a lot of despicable shit and still get a commentating job.


Excellent point.

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How much longer does the A.D. hold on to his job. He has to be on his way out. Maybe he stays around till the punishment is handed down and then he is fired.

Plus if this is going to spill over into the basketball team the president might be in some trouble also.


The rumor mill has all scenarios covered. It'll all depend on what else comes out. If anything else is there to come out.

These two made a huge mistake backing Tressel once he admitted knowing what was going on.

Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 05 2011,13:21
The A.D. is gone at this point. He is just as guilty as tressel. On top of that he lead a phony investigation and the cover. usc let their A.D. hang around for some time to but in the end he had to go.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 05 2011,18:43
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The A.D. is gone at this point. He is just as guilty as tressel. On top of that he lead a phony investigation and the cover.


That's a pretty strong statement. You're saying that Gene Smith:
-Knew about the rules infractions.
-Knew Tressel knew about the rules infractions.
-Reported neither.
-Held a bogus investigation that resulted in OSU self-reporting (seriously, explain that).
-And since Tressel's misdeed has come to light, he's green lit two more investigations. One that led to Tressel being given the resign or be fired option.

So...proof?

And I'm not arguing whether he should or will get fired. I'm simply saying that your statement is unfounded and based more on speculation/wishful thinking than fact.

By the way, < this is interesting. >

If he wins, that's a game changer.



Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 05 2011,20:04

(Leisher @ Jun. 05 2011,18:43)
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The A.D. is gone at this point. He is just as guilty as tressel. On top of that he lead a phony investigation and the cover.


That's a pretty strong statement. You're saying that Gene Smith:
-Knew about the rules infractions.
-Knew Tressel knew about the rules infractions.
-Reported neither.
-Held a bogus investigation that resulted in OSU self-reporting (seriously, explain that).
-And since Tressel's misdeed has come to light, he's green lit two more investigations. One that led to Tressel being given the resign or be fired option.

So...proof?

And I'm not arguing whether he should or will get fired. I'm simply saying that your statement is unfounded and based more on speculation/wishful thinking than fact.

I will rephrase it. Smith is either a liar or a total fucking idiot. Either ones mean he should be fired from his position.

He didn't know about the infractions? Seeing as how everyone else saw the infractions driving around town and knew about them I find it hard believe he didn't and if he didn't then again he should be losing his job.

As far as the investigation, how can every blogger and newspapers in Columbus and the surrounding area be aware of all the cars and tattoos and yet the osu internal investigation turns up nothing? One investigation turns up 8 years of illegal benefits and the A.D.s investigation discovers that this was just an isolated incident involving just 5 players(even though several others had already been caught in previous years breaking rules) and they found nothing else besides what had been reported by others. I will let the ncaa and school decide which it is but he either headed up a bogus investigation that wouldn't find any more problems or he is an idiot. Either way he should lose his job.

Yeah he started two more investigation once the SI article had been leaked and it was proven that his own investigation was a total crock of shit. Yeah he back tressel until the evidence he ignored/missed was so overwhelming and then he fired the coach. Through this whole process he has done nothing more than what he felt he absolutely had to. Probably his job but what can also lead to the ncaa firing him with their sanction threats. Sure they are participating in a joint investigation with the ncaa but what other choice do they have? Say no and get an even bigger punishment?

I guess my statements are unfounded because I find it hard to believe the the A.D. of a school wouldn't have spent some time around the practice field or campus and seen one of pryors 8 cars. It isn't like pryor was hiding it. He obviously doesn't give a damn about osu because all he has done since he has been there is flaunt his rule breaking so unless you didn't want to know what was going on it would have been very hard not to see it. There was the whole corvette being loaned to him and tests drives back home to Pennsylvania long before the tattoo story came out yet the A.D. didn't see any problems other than that one isolated incident.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 06 2011,07:46
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Smith is either a liar or a total fucking idiot.


I think there's a bit of both at play here, but not in such extreme terms as you put them.

All ADs lie. That's their job. They're politicians for the school.

Catt pointed out how the UNC basketball players drive nice cars. When Michigan self-reported its program, they didn't reveal everything (trust me, not everything about the Fab Five came out). Recruiting violations happen all over the country as multiple former players have been talking about this entire past year.

However, I also think Gene Smith was an idiot in trying to protect Tressel. Once they found out he knew something and didn't report it, they should have asked him to resign.

Hindsight is 20/20, and I don't think hesitating to fire one of the winningest coaches in history makes you a "fucking idiot".

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As far as the investigation, how can every blogger and newspapers in Columbus and the surrounding area be aware of all the cars and tattoos and yet the osu internal investigation turns up nothing? One investigation turns up 8 years of illegal benefits and the A.D.s investigation discovers that this was just an isolated incident involving just 5 players(even though several others had already been caught in previous years breaking rules) and they found nothing else besides what had been reported by others. I will let the ncaa and school decide which it is but he either headed up a bogus investigation that wouldn't find any more problems or he is an idiot. Either way he should lose his job.


You didn't hear the actual facts then. What really happened is that they hired former cops, now PIs, to do the investigation. They interviewed players and people at the tattoo shop. The story they got it what they filed. Only later when they found the Tressel emails and shit started hitting the fan did people start telling more of the truth.

Ok, I just made that paragraph up, except for OSU finding the emails. They dug that dirt up on Jim after finding out that such emails might exist. However, my point is that we have no idea what the scope of the investigation was or any details about it. OSU does, and so does the NCAA.

And again, let me point out that I'm not defending the man. I honestly agree with you and think he should be fired. More so for sitting by and watching OSU get fucked with one of the toughest brackets in years during March Madness (he's on the selection committee), but also because he's forever stained by this as well.

I'd also like to see G. Gordon Gee gone, but I don't think it'd be fair to say only for this situation. This asshole wouldn't fire Cooper until 13 years of losing big games had passed. Plus, his name is stupid.  :D

Anyway, to continue talking this topic is pointless. Everything, EVERYTHING, is pure speculation at this point, and the vast majority of it is fueled by folks who want the absolute worst outcome for Ohio State because it'll give their school a better shot at winning, or because their pathetic egos get a boost from seeing a big boy fall.

Sadly, most of the people screaming about the Ohio State thing are too stupid to understand that this sort of treatment for athletes occurs on every single college campus in the nation. Whether players are getting paid, are being loaned cars, are working bogus jobs to make their pay "legit", are getting laid on recruiting visits, etc. It all happens.

It just happens to be OSU's turn to get busted for it.

And is anyone else stunned that Pryor appears to be staying in school? Insane. His teammates barely tolerated him before and now they blame him for Tressel's resignation, he's banned for the first 5 games, and he's under investigation for the cars. Why stick around? I wonder if it's because of the NFL's labor situation?

Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 06 2011,10:52
So you just agree with me though. No A.D. is going to put everything forward about their school if their is an issues. alabama and oregon aren't going to do it in a few years when they get caught and no one else will but that does mean that they are not lying. They feel that part of their job is lying. So of course gene smith is lying unless he is the biggest fucking idiot in the world and really was not aware of anything but both should lead to him losing his job.

I think it comes down to how would you characterize the first investigation that found only the 5 players guilty and turned up no other information and proved that osu did not have a systemic problem with its football team?

Did smith engage in a very intense and hard hitting investigation and was just real unlucky and had players/people stonewalling him at every turn because of their loyalty to the school and team? So despite his best efforts and total desire to clean everything up the rest of the system was just too corrupt for one man to get anything done?

Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 06 2011,11:08
As for the pryor situation I have no idea. I think that he has such a high opinion of himself that I am not even sure if he realizes that fans/players are pissed at him. At this point he can go back to osu and be hated or go to the nfl and get no money and be turned into a TE.

My guess would be that he thinks he is going to walk onto the field in nebraska and light it up and the fans will love him again and then he will be one of the top 3 QBs taken in the next draft.

I don't know why osu hasn't shown him the door yet? What are they really holding onto to? How many games has he been that important in? They have always been a defense and run kind of team where the QB is only somewhat important. With this investigation depending on how long it takes he is going to have to get more for these cars and seeing how pryor has handled everything so far I doubt that is the only thing he has done.



Posted by Leisher on Jun. 06 2011,11:13
I agree that he probably needs to be fired, but I am not willing to agree to your original statement before you rephrased it.

There is always going to be head turning when it comes to athletes. That's a fact. That fact happens every day in grade schools, high schools, colleges, and even the pros.

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Did smith engage in a very intense and hard hitting investigation and was just real unlucky and had players/people stonewalling him at every turn because of their loyalty to the school and team? So despite his best efforts and total desire to clean everything up the rest of the system was just too corrupt for one man to get anything done?


IF he was getting stonewalled, and let's be honest, it wouldn't be that hard to get stonewalled here, then he might get to save his job. Hell, if proven it might spare OSU from ANY major penalties, but not Tressel or the players.

Quite honestly, it might be a case of them simply looking at the emails Tressel got, taking Tressel's word for it, and maybe even contacting the person who contacted Tressel, who may not have known about anyone else. They really wouldn't have suspicion to look further or possibly even access if the main guy was in jail?

Anyway, my point is that we don't know all the facts. To speculate that he intentionally covered things up or is a complete moron is just that: speculation.

We'll find out later if he was just unlucky or if he fucked up, beyond protecting Tressel for too long...

Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 06 2011,11:46
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IF he was getting stonewalled, and let's be honest, it wouldn't be that hard to get stonewalled here, then he might get to save his job.


But why would players/friends/family/fans not talk to the A.D. but then just run their mouth and open up about everything to some stranger who shows up in town writing an article about the school? So the stonewalling doesn't seem all that believable.

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They really wouldn't have suspicion to look further or possibly even access if the main guy was in jail?


Except for the players who had already been busted or accursed of cheating previous to this during tressels career.

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Anyway, my point is that we don't know all the facts. To speculate that he intentionally covered things up or is a complete moron is just that: speculation.


Yes were are just guess at what will happen and what was done right now and your argument that he is clean might prove to be correct but if I am laying money down I am going all in on the lying/cover up/idiot bet.

What is the bigger reach? That he under reported, lied, covered up info or that he really tried hard to clean everything up and he was just real unlucky and despite his best efforts he couldn't dig up any other info even thought several others could.



Posted by Leisher on Jun. 07 2011,08:51
< Interesting article > written by a player not involved.

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But why would players/friends/family/fans not talk to the A.D. but then just run their mouth and open up about everything to some stranger who shows up in town writing an article about the school? So the stonewalling doesn't seem all that believable.


The school has almost zero leverage. It's a school. They don't have much ability to get people to talk who don't want to talk, especially since there are no cameras...

As for people who talked to the SI guy, are you aware that one week removed from the article and there are already two lawsuits from players' parents (players can't sue) claiming the allegations against their kids are false? I read one of the cases and it seems pretty strong. The article alleges that the player sold trophies and team awards, but the problem is his dad has them ALL.

Take a camera out to the mall in your area, and just ask random people questions about a store robbery that happened an hour prior (NOTE: Obviously, it didn't happen.), and you will get people claiming to have seen it happen. I worked in the MSM, and that was a well known fact: If a reporter looks long enough and you'll find someone to tell you exactly what you want to hear, but it doesn't make it true.

Point of all that? People lie to the media. A lot. Not saying this whole situation is bogus, just saying that it's a lot easier for a media guy to get people talking than it is for a school.

As for that SI article, let's just say that the general opinion in the MSM is that it landed with a fizzle after a lot of hype.

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Except for the players who had already been busted or accursed of cheating previous to this during Tressel's career.


Who?
-The Youngstown State stuff never latched onto Tressel or he never would have been hired.
-Clarrett left on his own and hired an agent. He never went into any allegations of violations except skipping classes.
-The thing about Holmes was something academic too, which he denied.
-Some recruit during the Cam thing said he went to a party where there were girls.

Point being is that while one could argue there was smoke, it wasn't more than what other schools see over the same amount of time. Nothing was put into the NCAA's hands, so there was no precedent.

I'd like to note here again that during the Cam Newton investigation former Auburn players, recent ones, came out publicly and told stories of how they got paid to play and current Auburn assistant coaches were involved. So if the NCAA doesn't need to dig into those allegations, why do we place a much harsher expectation onto OSU's investigation?

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Yes were are just guess at what will happen and what was done right now and your argument that he is clean might prove to be correct but if I am laying money down I am going all in on the lying/cover up/idiot bet.

What is the bigger reach? That he under reported, lied, covered up info or that he really tried hard to clean everything up and he was just real unlucky and despite his best efforts he couldn't dig up any other info even thought several others could.


Exactly! Speculation, and quite honestly, I'm betting some wishful thinking. Who is your team?

Personally, I am pretty apathetic about Gene and G. Gordon Gee. If they go, they go. If they stay, they stay. However, I can assure you that like USC fans and fans of all other schools who are getting investigated by the NCAA and getting hit with sanctions, it pisses me off to no end to see the double standard in judgment and investigation methods when it comes to SEC schools and non-SEC schools.

As it stands, I'll be surprised if the school gets off with nothing or if they get the same as USC or worse. I think it'd be somewhere in the middle.

Meanwhile, Cam Newton is on his way to the pros and has a Heisman and a national title.

Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 07 2011,11:30
Some wishful thinking sure. I would love to see Texas get nailed and Alambama, Florida, and Oregone because they aren't all on the up an up but you obviously see no guilt throughout tressels run so there isn't much to discuss anymore.

I don't see much difference between that usc and osu are accused of doing. For each of them the cover up is the problem but I am sure with the clout the Big 10 has it will lead to a reduction in the penalties they get.



Posted by Leisher on Jun. 07 2011,12:10
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but you obviously see no guilt throughout tressels run so there isn't much to discuss anymore.


And you're either skimming or letting that wishful thinking blind you.

I've actually been wondering why you've been arguing this point so much. There is NOTHING I'm saying that is absolutely contrary to what you're saying, yet somehow you think that means I think nothing went on and everyone is innocent?

You seem to be so upset and/or hopeful for OSU's demise that you're not even remotely paying attention to what I'm saying and instead you keep going on and on about Tressel's guilt, and Gene Smith's guilt or ignorance, and a big cover up, and they all knew all along, etc.

And that's my only point: You can't jump to conclusions about who knew what and who did what. I mean really, that's the wrong stance to take? Perhaps you think "Innocent until proven guilty" is horseshit as well? Maybe we should just take everyone involved out to a lake, and if they float they're witches (and thus guilty)?

And again, I'm NOT defending Tressel. I'm NOT defending the players. I'm not even suggesting that Gene Smith or G. Gordon Gee are innocent. I'm simply saying that we should give them due process.

You've already convicted them and want to move ahead to sentencing.

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I don't see much difference between that usc and osu are accused of doing.


I've heard it said that USC was far more involved in the Bush situation. Remember, a coach lost his job over it. Not because like Tressel he got an email that he hid for months, but he was more actively involved.

And FYI, I know people, both fans and haters, who are claiming OSU will get nothing to OSU will get hit worse than USC (because the NCAA has zero credibility and wants to establish some by hammering OSU). I choose to think and hope it'll be somewhere in the middle of that.

QUOTE
Some wishful thinking sure. I would love to see Texas get nailed and Alambama, Florida, and Oregone because they aren't all on the up an up


Again let me ask, who do you root for?

Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 07 2011,16:17
Pryor is out.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 07 2011,16:51
I'm not on the jury and this is just a message board so we don't really have to worry about due process because we have no affect on it. People were discussing the situation and and I gave my two cents on what I thought happened. You have fallen back on the laughable defense "innocent until proven guilt" on a message board(My guess would be because it is your team in trouble, how quick were you to jump on usc?). Yeah he will get his day in court but gun to my kids head I need to guess at who is guilty I'm saying the A.D. knew more and covered up. Gun to your kids head I am guessing you would say the same. Even if they are your team you can't be that naive or gullible to truly believe he had no knowledge what so ever.

All were are doing is speculating and I was giving you my reasons for why I was leaning in a certain direction. Too many unlikely situations would have had to take place for him to be totally innocent. Since none of us are sitting on the jury it really doesn't matter.

Forget innocent until proven guilty because all this is is a bunch of guys discussing a bunch of other guys who run around with a ball. Given the speculative reports of 28 football players trading stuff for benefits, a star QB having several different cars all beyond his means, having Clarett take thousands of dollars in benefits(former osu athletic director words), Heisman winning QB took money, another article claiming Holmes took money, and the coach now has a history of top players at both of his schools getting benefits whether he was active in it or not. How intense and complete do you really think the A.D.s internal investigation that found no other wrong doing was? What is your gut feeling? He is still innocent until proven guilty no matter what yours or my gut feeling is.


usc and osu did the same thing. They had players breaking the rules and they covered it up. Right now bush probably got as much money himself as everyone at osu but this happens everywhere.  It is the cover up that is the issue IMO. They both saw shit going on and did nothing about it.

Miami.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 08 2011,10:40
I had a longer post typed up which addressed your post line by line again, but to be honest, I deleted the entire thing because I'm tired of discussing this subject. However, I don't feel you deserve the oft used "Bah", so this is my "summary until we hear what the punishment will be" post.

I think we agree more than you realize, but I'm not willing to publicly execute someone until all the facts come out. You seem to be more willing to do so, although as I said, I doubt you'd be as willing if this was happening to Miami.

Also, I get the hate from a Miami fan because of '02, but you'd think there would be a bit of sympathy on your part considering how the rest of the country views Miami's integrity during the 80s and 90s. (I'm not about to get into that debate though...)

As for USC, no I never got crazy on them. What made me pissed about that situation is that the story broke via Yahoo, and then nobody at the NCAA did shit about it. They just sat there like nothing was happening until Yahoo kept digging up even more stuff to where everyone in the MSM was talking about it and the NCAA was finally forced to act. It's also what is currently pissing off OSU fans, and other Big Ten fans I know, about Auburn and Cam Newton. The evidence was all there: texts, emails, phone calls, voicemails, former players, and all reported by Yahoo, but the NCAA investigated for about a week and declared nothing wrong. They acted like Officer Barbrady: "Nothing to see here". I imagine USC fans aren't big fans of how Auburn and Cam Newton were handled either.

Onto the OSU thing:
-The scandal outside of Tressel's email and Pryor's everything: The kids knew they were wrong in doing that (Those who actually did), however I don't understand the rule at all. It's their stuff. Why can't they sell it? The minute they graduate or leave school they can, so why not while in school? To take this further, did you know that these kids get swag bags at bowl games (ditto for other sports)? These bags contain game consoles, games, CDs, DVDs, etc. If they turn around and sell those items, is that also illegal? What gives the NCAA the power to tell players they can't sell their own possessions? Trust me, I get the distinction they're trying to maintain between an amateur athlete and a pro, but it's an odd line that sometimes seems arbitrary.
-Tressel: Probably had an idea that some kids were gaming the system, and made a terrible mistake by not reporting that email immediately. Had he done so, this thread wouldn't even exist, and he'd be retiring in 2-3 years.
-Gene Smith: Should have fired Tressel immediately, and whether intentional or not, isn't looking so great right now. I think he should be fired for chairing the Selection Committee and allowing OSU to be stuck in a brutal bracket. If I had to guess, I'd say he won't survive this scandal.
-G. Gordon Gee: Refused to fire Cooper. For that reason alone, I've never liked him. No idea whether he stays or goes. I imagine he stays. And yes, even OSU fans thought his "I hope he doesn't fire us." comment was ridiculous.
-Pryor: The overwhelming feeling is that everyone is thrilled he's gone. He wasn't exactly loved by players, and fans were always 50/50 on him. With the scandal he is hated in the locker room, and fans wanted him gone. He was acting very much alone in breaking NCAA rules (not the tattoo stuff) with the memorabilia he was selling (that he didn't own and would sign for cash) and the cars he was driving. I doubt he'll be a good pro athlete.

The most important thing to remember about Pryor is that every school in the country wanted him, and they'd be in the same boat right now if they had taken him.

-OSU: Labeling the program as dirty is sour grapes from other programs, just like people have done to USC, Miami, Florida State, Florida, Michigan, etc. To back that point up, I think Michigan, a school I loathe, is one of the classiest, cleanest programs in the country. However, they've had a MAJOR scandal in basketball and minor scandals in football. This shit happens everywhere. You can't stop thousands of kids, most of whom are from poor families, from accepting benefits and/or cash from people not associated with that school's sports programs. It's going to happen. I think OSU should be punished for failing to notice what was happening, but not as heavily as USC because a coach wasn't directly involved in obtaining the benefits. That's the difference between the scandals. Plus, the NCAA moves so slow that at this point they're doing nothing but punishing players who weren't involved, fans, and the bowl games. (That's not a cocky remark. The bowls love OSU because they're the #1 traveling team and they are a huge ratings draw.)

So there's my final word for now.

P.S. I fully expect you guys to beat the hell out of us this year. Too many defensive players gone, and the two QBs likely to play aren't very good. Although, if Braxton Miller gets to start as a true freshman, you might get to see something special. 5 star recruit with a laser who can run, has good pocket awareness, and has a block O tattoo on his arm. I doubt he'll be doing anything to stain the program.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 14 2011,10:10
Back to the NFL, I have a hunch we'll see the lockout end before July 1st.
Posted by Troy on Jun. 14 2011,10:46
Hurray!

Since the Barcelona vs Man U game, I've tried watching a few other sports, as is usual for this time of year.

Baseball is only fun live, Basketball is mildly entertaining, Hockey (even the Stanley Cup) is pretty boring.

I need football, stat.

Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 14 2011,12:21
Yeah, once the NCAA tournament ends... it's summer vacation for real sports.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 14 2011,13:01
ESPN is reporting that the players and owners met for the third week in a row and nobody is getting pissy and walking away. Apparently, everyone is committed to getting something done finally.

Also, I've seen two rumors now about coaches and/or players being told to get ready to report. Rumors, but where there's smoke...

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 14 2011,15:45
QUOTE
but where there's smoke...

There's Ricky Williams?

Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 26 2011,12:56
It was nice hoping that our football program would rise above mediocrity....

QUOTE
North Carolina has identified eight football players who accumulated 317 parking tickets that were uncovered in documents requested by media outlets covering the ongoing NCAA probe.

The school released a chart Friday that links those players’ names to their license plate numbers on vehicles that included a Land Rover, BMW and an Acura.

A week ago, the school released records that showed some players combined for 395 citations totaling more than $13,000 between March 2007 and August 2010.

< Article >

Investigation wraps up next month I think.

Maybe some football players actually come from wealthy families, but somehow I have my doubts.

Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 11 2011,14:52
< OSU vacates bowl game they never should have played in anyway >

Nice job stealing that Big Ten title too.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 12 2011,07:32
FYI: I don't know a single Buckeye fan who believes the NCAA will think that's enough punishment. Since this year is already a write off, they should have thrown on at least a bowl game ban as well.

I've never bought into the concept of vacating wins being a punishment. There are no Michigan fans up here running around saying "We beat the Buckeyes!". Fans don't care about vacated wins. And how do record books display them? With an asterisk? I can see it now: "Ohio State beat Arkansas on the field in the Sugar Bowl, but it doesn't count...even though all the stats do...because 5 of their players sold their own property and got tattoos."

USC had to vacate their title, and the other team in that bowl, Oklahoma, immediately released a statement saying that they didn't want it. Vacated wins don't do shit. You can't alter the past.

People up here are still expecting the NCAA to hammer OSU, although the implied scandal is way bigger than the actual infractions.

-The whole thing about cars was a big non-issue. All sales were found to be legit and did not break NCAA rules.
-Everyone involved in the tattoo thing has been punished.
-Tressel is gone.
-Pryor had the biggest potential scandal in signing helmets and such for money, but he is now gone and is refusing to cooperate with the NCAA. Rumor has it that he paid north of $20,000 during his time at OSU. Not by a booster to play there or anything (like the Reggie Bush situation), but by some memorabilia guy who was paying him just to sign things.

So I guess the focus is going to be on the compliance department and whether or not they were doing their jobs properly. Should be interesting.

In related news, did you see that "recruiter" rolled on Chip Kelly and said he authorized a $25,000 payment to help bring in athletes? Apparently this guy also had dealings with Cal and LSU...

So to review:
-The Pac 10 might as well not even show up this year since USC is being punished and the conference's other team , Oregon, is about to get nailed.
-Boise State is going to be sanctioned.
-In the Big Ten, Illinois has already been hit, Michigan just got hit, and now OSU faces sanctions. Plus, there have been rumblings about some stuff going on in Wisconsin...
-Apparently, the QB at Oklahoma has been getting paid, and they're in trouble now. And without Nebraska, the Big 12 looks really weak.
-Auburn is still under investigation, and the NCAA's one hour investigation turned up nothing despite recent former players coming out saying they were paid and actually naming coaches who helped facilitate those payments.
-North Carolina is getting nailed.
-Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee are either currently under investigation or have some sort of scandals brewing.

And this is all just football...

Yeah, the NCAA is doing a great job, and really understands their student athletes.

Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 12 2011,07:40
Vacating is the stupidest punishment ever.

It's like saying to a CEO "Ok, you were fraudulently changing our financial records, so we're going to remove your name from the history page of our website, and burn all copies of annual reports from that time period, but go ahead and keep your bonuses and stock options you exercised."

It doesn't give Michigan State the Big Ten title, does it?  Or get their players into the BCS game?

Or get Oklahoma their championship?

I don't know what the answer is, but in my mind college major sports may as well be semi-pro leagues.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 27 2011,07:13
So by now everyone knows the NFL is returning, hooray!

Now can someone explain to me how the NFLPA isn't a union?

Back to the OSU saga, < OSU bans Pryor. >

August 12th is rapidly approaching, which will be OSU's day in court in front of the NCAA.

< Although, this has helped ease the worry. > Hopefully, this has made my prediction correct that OSU won't be getting USC's punishment.

Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 28 2011,10:20
Davis is gone, and our AD is now stepping down as well, with punishment for possible major violations coming.

Oh well.  It was a nice dream.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 01 2011,07:47
< Now Duke is under investigation. >

I think it'd be easier to list the schools not under investigation than to list those who are...

Heading to the NFL, and please make time for these articles, they're pure entertainment, you might not know who Chris Kluwe is, but you should because he is teh awesome. He's the punter for the Vikings, and here are his latest exploits:

< It starts here. >

< Then he did this. >

< Which prompted a response from Nate Jackson. > (What a dick. He's everything wrong with athletes today.)

< Chris Kluwe fires back at Nate. >

Now with McNabb coming into town, he'll be wanting #5, which Chris happens to wear. Well, < Chris has a deal for him. >

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 01 2011,08:04
Well, he's the most entertaining punter in the league.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2011,19:42
QUOTE
Also, I will take number 4, since pi is not an option. #iwantanimaginarynumber, #Brettwontmindright

Yep, Favre’s old number. Sounds good to me. No better way to put an end to that chapter in Vikings lore than to have a punter assume the iconic #4 jersey.

Sweet.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 08 2011,18:02
< Pittsburgh Steelers in Dark Knight Rising. >

What NFL team has had the most players do cameos or get roles in movies?

Pittsburgh has to be up there thanks to Burt Reynolds, and now Christopher Nolan. Oakland is a contender too. Surprisingly Buffalo has to be considered. Miami thanks to Marino. The Packers got their Favre cameo. Who else?

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 15 2011,12:14
Buckeyes had their day in court. They're now awaiting punishment. Lots of people rooting for the hammer. "Haters gonna hate!"

There's also a lot of people saying the short meeting with the NCAA bodes well for OSU.

I've already seen conspiracy theory stuff going both ways. If OSU gets nailed, it's because of ESPN and their deals with the SEC and Texas. If OSU gets a slap on the wrist it's because of the networks and bowl games who don't want the country's #1 draw to go away.

Meanwhile, < Miami is under investigation. >

The SEC continues to escape scrutiny despite players admitting payment, and photos of a player signing jerseys, which were then sold.

Whatever.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 15 2011,12:20
The fact that Tressel knew about what was going on means: more than a slap on the wrist to me.  That being said, it shouldn't be a huge penalty either, given that, ultimately, it looks like little more than the stuff for tattoos was going on.

IMHO, Tressel's resignation should help.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 15 2011,20:27
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The fact that Tressel knew about what was going on means: more than a slap on the wrist to me.


I think the big difference that people don't get between OSU and USC is that Tressel didn't facilitate the cheating. He fucked up in not reporting. Just a tremendously stupid move that has cost him his reputation and career. At USC, a coach was actually helping the deals go down.

I still don't understand how you don't report it. You suspend your players for the first three games, which the NCAA probably would have accepted at that point because YOU caught it, and YOU reported it.

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That being said, it shouldn't be a huge penalty either, given that, ultimately, it looks like little more than the stuff for tattoos was going on.


Lots of relief in Ohio when the cars thing turned out to be bunk. If that stuff were true, I could've seen USC penalties.

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IMHO, Tressel's resignation should help.


Hopefully that and the pay back of the Sugar Bowl money...

OSU got mocked by the rest of the Big Ten when the scandal hit and the other teams were acting very morally superior. When the pay back of the Sugar Bowl money news hit the UofM's official football twitter feed made a joke about the $333K being Terrell Pryor's annual salary. I laughed, but then wondered if the other "morally superior" schools would be giving back their ill gotten money or if Michigan gave back any of their Fab Five money... (they didn't)

It'll be interesting to see what happens. Lots of folks want OSU hammered for personal reasons, while others just think the NCAA needs to prove their power. That being said, is this really the case that warrants that display of power? According to the NCAA, the school actually did its job, and the fault lies with Tressel and 6 players. Tressel is gone, as is one of those players. The rest have already been punished.

No matter how it comes out, OSU had better crack down on this shit.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 16 2011,21:26
< Miami's allegations hit. >

< The actual Yahoo story detailing everything. >

Fucking holy shit...

WSGrundy, I feel for you. As I'm sure Catt does too with what's going on in NC.

If nobody at the school knew, and let's be honest, a lot of these boosters do this shit on their own, then how can Miami or any school be expected to control these guys throwing cash and women around to kids who aren't exactly rich.

However, if all of this guy's allegations are proven true...this is going to get ugly for a lot of folks.

First, I think the NCAA should do the fair thing and nail every coach involved no matter what school they're at now. For example, just because that basketball coach is now at Missouri doesn't mean he shouldn't get punished if he was involved.

Second, the 10 athletic department employees is the dagger. Once Miami gets the evidence, and if it fits this asshole's story, they need to clean house in a big way to get out ahead of the NCAA and avoid what will surely be massive penalties. Do what OSU and USC failed to do and be proactive. Fire the employees immediately, have the AD step down, make major changes to the compliance department (or institute one), and suspend or boot players depending on their crimes. I'd also go the OSU route and abandon wins and give back bowl money. I'd also self-impose a post-season ban for at least two seasons.

Third, this could seriously affect the agents involved. The NFL could revoke their licenses.

Fourth, the NCAA has got to figure this out. Their rules are out of date, but the "pay the players" rhetoric will do more damage than good, especially to every school's other sports and students. I mean if they go that route, why even offer scholarships? Just call college the minor leagues and don't even let these players associate with the student body.

These scandals don't even touch the other bullshit with teams switching conferences and the whole BCS thing.

College football is a mess.



Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 17 2011,17:13
Can anyone explain why Donna Shalala still has a job? Don't even need to give her time to resign.

Fire Shalala, fire the A.D., fire anyone involved with the football or basketball team and isn't a new hire this year.

Missouri probably needs to think about firing Haith too.

Plus what is the SEC doing if they were still able to steal recruits from Miami with all of this going on?

Plus Miami should have know you can't continue to go to title games or be good with Coker as your coach and not be suspected of cheating.



Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 17 2011,17:17
A new NCAA rule should be if you go to 2 title games in a 5 year period then there should be an automatic investigation from the NCAA or newspapers.

If you go to 3 title games in a 10 year period you need to automatically be put on probation because you are cheating.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 17 2011,20:04
QUOTE

Plus what is the SEC doing if they were still able to steal recruits from Miami with all of this going on?


GREAT question.

Posted by Troy on Aug. 25 2011,12:46
I don't even... < What? >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 01 2011,16:22
< Professor resigns from UNC >.  Professor who was head of the department, and who had a decent # of athletes as students.

QUOTE
In Thursday's announcement, Thorp said UNC officials have been looking at “possible irregularities with courses that included undergraduate students" in Nyang’oro’s department.

Nyang'oro's students included one of McAdoo's teammates, Marvin Austin. According to a transcript published by The News & Observer. Austin earned a B+ in the 400-level class in African-American studies as a freshman, despite SAT scores that indicated he was a poor reader. Nyang'oro would have had to give his consent to allow Austin into the class.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 09 2011,08:34
< Lou Holtz calls Mark May an idiot. >

That's my favorite moment of the college season so far. I fucking hate Mark May because he HATES OSU, and cannot even remotely hide it. I have never heard him pick them to win a single big game. When they win, he makes excuses for the other team. When they lose he trashes them. When they win huge, he finds things to destroy them for.

If you're wondering Mark May went to Pitt, and was on the team when OSU beat them 72-0.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 11 2011,16:45
Cam played well.

And apparently, Rex Grossman is now an < elite quarterback. >

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2011,06:14
My 2nd favorite stat of the day
QUOTE
Donovan McNabb had 39 yards passing for the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday.


My favorite, obviously, is Redskins 1-0.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 12 2011,06:33
I had a terrible football weekend.

The Buckeyes looked like shit against Toledo in a slim win. Granted we're rebuilding, and on hold for sanctions and a new coach, plus Toledo is good this year, but still...

The Steelers got rolled in Baltimore. I'm not too concerned because this game mean a LOT more to Baltimore since we've owned their asses for the past few years, plus the 7 turnovers we had in the game, but still...

In my NCAA Football league I had 13 turnovers in 2 games, and lost both...ugh.

I'm afraid to go look at my fantasy score.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2011,06:49
UNC won (barely, ugly - 5 turnovers), Redskins won(!), Wake Forest won (grew up rooting for them), Michigan State won (wife's team)... then the Panthers just couldn't get it done....  

So 3 of my 4 teams won.  And the Redskins schedule, based on yesterday's results from other teams, suddenly looks a lot less fierce: Cardinals, Cowboys, Rams, Eagles, Panthers, Bills, 49ers, Dolphins to get through 9. 6-3 through that and the playoffs are certainly a possibility (Jets/Patriots near the end, so that's 2 automatic losses).

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 12 2011,06:56
QUOTE
And the Redskins schedule, based on yesterday's results from other teams, suddenly looks a lot less fierce: Cardinals, Cowboys, Rams, Eagles, Panthers, Bills, 49ers, Dolphins to get through 9. 6-3 through that and the playoffs are certainly a possibility (Jets/Patriots near the end, so that's 2 automatic losses).


Don't get too wrapped up in week 1 results. Lots of misleading things can happen in the first week of the NFL season. For example: Buffalo looked like world killers, but they'll finish 3rd in their division...maybe 4th.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 12 2011,11:15
So. Cam Newton certainly is a thing.

Let's see if we can develop a team around him.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2011,13:04

(Leisher @ Sep. 12 2011,09:56)
QUOTE
QUOTE
And the Redskins schedule, based on yesterday's results from other teams, suddenly looks a lot less fierce: Cardinals, Cowboys, Rams, Eagles, Panthers, Bills, 49ers, Dolphins to get through 9. 6-3 through that and the playoffs are certainly a possibility (Jets/Patriots near the end, so that's 2 automatic losses).


Don't get too wrapped up in week 1 results. Lots of misleading things can happen in the first week of the NFL season. For example: Buffalo looked like world killers, but they'll finish 3rd in their division...maybe 4th.

I'm a Redskins fan... this is the only time of the year I get to have hope.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2011,19:28
Hey Leisher, maybe teach your new coach how to call a timeout?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 18 2011,05:43
< ACC first to 14 teams. >

QUOTE
“The ACC has enjoyed a rich tradition by balancing academics and athletics and the addition of Pitt and Syracuse further strengthens the ACC culture in this regard,” said Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford. “Pittsburgh and Syracuse also serve to enhance the ACC’s reach into the states of New York and Pennsylvania and geographically bridges our footprint between Maryland and Massachusetts. With the addition of Pitt and Syracuse, the ACC will cover virtually the entire Eastern Seaboard of the United States.”

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 18 2011,11:48

(TheCatt @ Sep. 17 2011,22:28)
QUOTE
Hey Leisher, maybe teach your new coach how to call a timeout?

I wouldn't bother. He'll be gone before bowl season.

He had his shot and blew it. Not by losing, but because his team has been completely unprepared for two consecutive weeks.

Posted by thibodeaux on Sep. 18 2011,13:19

(TheCatt @ Sep. 18 2011,08:43)
QUOTE
< ACC first to 14 teams. >

In the future, ALL restaurants will be Taco Bell.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 18 2011,15:01

(Leisher @ Sep. 18 2011,14:48)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 17 2011,22:28)
QUOTE
Hey Leisher, maybe teach your new coach how to call a timeout?

I wouldn't bother. He'll be gone before bowl season.

He had his shot and blew it. Not by losing, but because his team has been completely unprepared for two consecutive weeks.

Yeah, I know yall are missing some players, and Miami is a pretty decent team but DAMN.  That and Toldeo?  

Redskins:
Grossman intercepted at Arizona's 6
Grossman intercepted at Arizona's 39
Get to Arizona's 3, and kick FG.
Touchdown!
Arizona 12 - blocked FG

A win's a win, but an that was painful.   4 red zones trips = 10 points.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 18 2011,19:19
QUOTE
Yeah, I know yall are missing some players, and Miami is a pretty decent team but DAMN.  That and Toledo?  


The defense is fine, but they get tired when they play almost the whole game. And yes, the O is very young (literally almost all freshmen), but coaching is what is killing the team.

The Bucks still have Tressel's O coordinator, and I've hated that guy since day one. Very boring and predictable play calling.

Fickell is not preparing the kids for the games at all, and he refuses to go away from Bauserman because of the "gotta play the senior" mentality. I know Miller turned the ball over twice, but that's because he's young and green. He needs experience to learn not to force plays or over extend them. However, the offense looked completely different with him in the game. There was energy, excitement, and you felt any play could go for a big gain. With Bauserman in you wonder three things:
1. Will Hyde go up the middle?
2. If Hyde is out, will Rod Smith go outside? (Did you notice they actually do that? The poker equivalent is someone sscreaming "yes" when they get a good hand.)
3. How far will Bauserman over throw his receiver?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2011,13:46
< These people should be suspended. >

I saw them do the fake injuries last night, and was just like WTF?  How did the ref not make them take a time out?

The players should be banned, along with the coach who told them to do it.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2011,13:23

(Leisher @ Sep. 12 2011,09:56)
QUOTE
Don't get too wrapped up in week 1 results. Lots of misleading things can happen in the first week of the NFL season. For example: Buffalo looked like world killers, but they'll finish 3rd in their division...maybe 4th.

Wow, just wow on today's game, though.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 25 2011,13:44
Shockingly, they look good.

I'll revise my prediction to 2nd or 3rd in the division depending on what the Jets do.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2011,18:24
If the Redskins knew where the fucking end zone was, they'd be awesome.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2011,12:03
QUOTE
After holding off the Rams 17-10 in St. Louis on Sunday, the Redskins are 3-1 for the fifth time in nine years.


I'm calling 9-7.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 23 2011,13:04

(TheCatt @ Oct. 03 2011,15:03)
QUOTE
QUOTE
After holding off the Rams 17-10 in St. Louis on Sunday, the Redskins are 3-1 for the fifth time in nine years.


I'm calling 9-7.

And now... 7-9.... 6-10....
Posted by Troy on Oct. 24 2011,11:50
CAM!

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzOphXV2hmo >

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 26 2011,06:21
< Cowher to Dolphins? >

I don't see that happening unless the Dolphins get Andrew Luck.

Cowher is going the Phil Jackson route. He's not looking to rebuild, just help a veteran team with a lot of talent over the hump.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 26 2011,09:59
Cowher should go to UNC.  Or the Redskins.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 26 2011,10:27
Or Ohio State.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 26 2011,11:01
< NFL isn't really filled with criminals. >

The order goes:
NBA
MLB
NFL

Oddly, they don't mention the NHL.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 26 2011,11:53

(Leisher @ Oct. 26 2011,14:01)
QUOTE
Oddly, they don't mention the NHL.

The what?
Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 26 2011,16:48

(Troy @ Oct. 24 2011,04:50)
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CAM!

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzOphXV2hmo >

Is a classless turd.  Every highlight I see of him has him ripping his shirt open, Superman style.

Maybe stuff like that is prevalent in the NFL.  I don't know, I don't watch the pros.  But when I see the dances, and other shit, it just makes me not want to watch it even more.

Cam can suck it and I hope he gets hurt ending his delusions of grandeur.  Same with all the other classless turds that do similar stuff.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 27 2011,10:43

(Cakedaddy @ Oct. 26 2011,16:48)
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(Troy @ Oct. 24 2011,04:50)
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CAM!

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzOphXV2hmo >

Is a classless turd.  Every highlight I see of him has him ripping his shirt open, Superman style.

Maybe stuff like that is prevalent in the NFL.  I don't know, I don't watch the pros.  But when I see the dances, and other shit, it just makes me not want to watch it even more.

Cam can suck it and I hope he gets hurt ending his delusions of grandeur.  Same with all the other classless turds that do similar stuff.

I agree, people should never show emotion. Especially rookie quarterbacks. Especially rookie quarterbacks everyone said would be terrible.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 27 2011,10:44
Cake's a fan of the No Fun League, apparently.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 27 2011,10:53
I think Cam is playing great and he should show emotion, but I'll always dislike him because the entire country knows he got paid to play at Auburn. Keep in mind, this is after he was stealing and cheating at Florida.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 27 2011,11:28

(TheCatt @ Oct. 27 2011,10:44)
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Cake's a fan of the No Fun League, apparently.

Last game game scored a rushing TD, and did his awful celebration.

Then he handed the ball to the youngest panther fan he could find.


Jerk.


Edit: That kid is wearing a UNC visor, awesome.



Posted by Troy on Oct. 27 2011,11:30

(Leisher @ Oct. 27 2011,10:53)
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I think Cam is playing great and he should show emotion, but I'll always dislike him because the entire country knows he got paid to play at Auburn. Keep in mind, this is after he was stealing and cheating at Florida.

I agree their were some issues in his past. He's also 22.

Lot of growing up to do.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 27 2011,11:53
I love it when players give the ball to kids. Classy move.

Doesn't excuse his past. I want him to admit taking money at Auburn.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 07 2011,11:15
Lots of Cleveland fans around here as you can imagine, and the constant losing is starting to get to them.

My brother-in-law is a die hard Cleveland fan. He loves the Browns, Cavs, and Indians, but lately he's been thinking of quitting as a Browns fan. He says it's been 20 years of consistent mediocrity and bad moods on Sunday.

I imagine < this is how all Browns fans feel. >

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 13 2011,13:13
Rex Grossman gets the start for the Redskins.... reminds us why Rex Grossman lost the starting job for the Redskins.

3-13, baby!  We might get a top 4 draft pick!

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 28 2011,14:46
Dammit Redskins, winning is not the goal.

Nice hire, OSU.  Guess that's one candidate UNC won't have an option for.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 28 2011,21:22
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Nice hire, OSU.


Yeah, the state is pretty stoked about it. It was a needed "win" after the last year.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 29 2011,07:06
UNC posted a "Beat Duke" picture on OSU's Facebook wall.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 29 2011,07:30
Lol.

I was going to say "Good luck tonight"

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 30 2011,05:37
Wow, OSU man-handled Duke (according to the intertubes, I didnt watch the game), and Big Ten goes up 4-2 in ACC/Big Ten challenge.  B10 might win another year.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 30 2011,05:51
I figured that would make your day.

Duke was never in the game. It was a blowout from start to finish. Coach K looked pissed afterwards. He actually sat 2-3 starters for almost the whole game.

It was so bad that Thad Matta put in subs with 4 minutes left. He NEVER does that.

OSU will get another test soon when they head to Kansas.

And yeah, the B1G is loaded again this year.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 30 2011,06:26
So... when does your conference get a new name?
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 30 2011,06:28
Great question. I don't think they ever will.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 06 2011,10:21
< This guy is just a piece of garbage. >

However, I'm posting it because right in the middle of the article, there's a sentence that makes you do a double take, and think "WTF?"

QUOTE
One of the women in the vehicle is quoted in the police report as saying she told Suh that she needed medical attention. She said Suh refused her request and told her she was fine. She then walked down the street and had her husband pick her up and take her to a hospital.


That immediately made me want to know who she was and why she was in the car.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2011,11:51
Ditto.
Posted by unkbill on Dec. 11 2011,13:35
What a fixed game. Vikings against Lions. How the hell did they miss the quarterback getting facemasked on the last play.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 11 2011,18:12
< SERIOUSLY?! >

QUOTE
Tim Tebow led the Broncos to another comeback victory, with Matt Prater’s 51-yard field goal with 8:34 left in overtime giving Denver a 13-10 win over the Chicago Bears on Sunday.

It was Denver’s sixth straight win, and half of them have come in OT since Tebow was promoted to starter.

After failing to score on their first 11 possessions, the Broncos (8-5) erased a 10-0 deficit in the final 2:08 of regulation.

Tebow hit Demaryius Thomas with a 10-yard touchdown pass, then got the ball back with 58 seconds left and drove Denver downfield for Prater’s kick.

The Bears (7-6) won the toss in overtime and were in field goal range when Marion Barber coughed up the football at the Broncos 34 and Elvis Dumervil recovered

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 12 2011,21:39
< Titans accuse Saints of cheating. >

This could actually be quite serious, especially if the Titans do have it on tape.

The final sentence of the article is an interesting shot at another coach:
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For what it’s worth, Sean Payton and Bill Belichick are close friends.

Posted by thibodeaux on Dec. 16 2011,06:44
< Detroit and New Orleans SUCK >

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There's two cities, like, I don't go out to eat or don't do anything. It's Detroit and New Orleans. New Orleans looks like I'm driving through a third-world country every time I get off the plane. I'm like, 'Oh, flak jacket.' I'm trying to get down. I'm like, 'Ah, crap, I can't carry my gun here. This sucks.'

Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 19 2011,22:26
People are just loving < this play >.  And when I read the article about it's legality, it wasn't for what I thought it would be.  When I watch the play, the linemen never set.  Some are pointing and looking around.  They don't move their feet, but they are never stationary.  Do they not have to be because they are standing?  You only have to get 'still' if you take a three point stance?  Anyone know the rules?  I thought everyone had to be motionless when the ball is being snapped.  Except when 'in motion' or the QB.  They seem to get away with a lot.  But again, are linemen aloud to be pointing and talking when the ball is snapped?
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2011,05:51
According to < wikipedia >, they have to be set, and the center was the only set player.

I was watching that live, and was just like what-what?

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 20 2011,11:21
If you watch, Cam's fake didn't fake anyone. The defense was simply caught off guard by the standing O linemen, and the RB beat them to the outside.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2011,17:25
< Ohio St gets 1 year bowl ban. >

Funny how they didn't get banned from the bowl the year they discovered this stuff.

Posted by WSGrundy on Dec. 22 2011,12:26

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 22 2011,13:33
Gene Smith needs to be fired for the bowl thing. Nobody wanted to go to a bowl this year at 6-6. Now watch us go undefeated next year.

On a different note, why is it that Yahoo had black and white proof of Auburn cheating, including former players saying they were paid, and naming coaches, but the NCAA found no evidence in their 1 day investigation?

How is it that Auburn, LSU, and Alabama oversign every year, yet nobody in the NCAA does shit about it? This is public knowledge!!!

How is it that one of the reasons Urban Meyer left Florida was because of the recruiting he saw in the SEC, yet that doesn't raise a red flag at NCAA HQ?

How is it that Miami was paying players and giving them huge perks, including getting them laid on yachts, but they were still losing recruits to the SEC? Nobody at the NCAA thinks that's odd?

How is it that Auburn gets investigated for 1 day, while Alabama, LSU, and Florida are all untouched, yet OSU, USC, Miami, UNC, Oregon, Boise St., Michigan, and Oklahoma among others have all gone through long NCAA investigations and all have faced penalties?

For some reason, I get the feeling that the world of college football isn't exactly running the same rules for all of its members. Perhaps OSU should apply to the SEC?  :D

Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 22 2011,13:38
The more I learn about the NCAA, the less fun college football becomes.  Which is pretty much the only sport I enjoy watching.

They remind me of EA.  The fans get fucked over in the name of making money, and yet, the fans keep paying them so there is no incentive to change.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2012,07:54
Tebow.  More like Te-Wow.  Or something.

At any rate... Seriously?

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2012,08:48
I actually told people during the week that the Steelers were being setup to lose. Way, way too many people hurt (Starting QB, RB, C, T, OLB, FS, DT, not to mention several role players), Harrison being targeted by the refs (his "late" hit wasn't any later than a Denver players tackle on Ben after a throw and that guy didn't shove Ben, he drilled him AND led with his head), the tragedy involving their RB coach, the high altitude, and the game being on Sunday because Teebo is Jesus' pet project.

The Steelers were paper tigers coming into the playoffs. Too many injuries to sustain any sort of push. I'm glad they lost now instead of getting routed by New England, which Denver will now do.



Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 09 2012,09:46
< Hah >
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 23 2012,10:25
Weird way for both of those games to end.

And what a great day to not be a Harbough!!! Speaking of little brother, what a dick. He barely shook Coughlin's hand, and then refused to speak to the media. It's shocking that a U of M grad would be an arrogant prick...

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2012,10:02
< Poor Cundiff. >
Posted by thibodeaux on Feb. 05 2012,10:30
So who's gonna watch the big game?
Posted by unkbill on Feb. 05 2012,10:39
Be at the bar watching game and boards. Thinking Giants.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 05 2012,14:00
Patriots win.
Posted by thibodeaux on Feb. 05 2012,15:44
Angelica Huston looks like an elderly drag queen.
Posted by Troy on Feb. 05 2012,17:08
Onsite, been working all weekend. At least I can stream it on another screen.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 05 2012,17:26
I liked the Madonna show.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 05 2012,19:36
Great game.

I liked that the Giants won. I think Coughlin is underrated as a coach, and Manning getting another ring makes the draft with him and Big Ben look more impressive. It also has got to kill Phillip Rivers who is as big a dick as they get.

Plus, Belichik's string of not winning shit since he got caught cheating continues, which is great since he cheated the Steelers in Big Ben's first AFC Championship game. The only way I felt bad for the Patriots tonight was they were playing for Robert Kraft's late wife.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Feb. 05 2012,19:51
Wanted to see NE win by 2 points.  Was rooting for NE because they had more Michigan players that I knew of than NYG and I wanted 50 Cent to win his bet.  But, it's cool that Manningham (Michigan!!) made super key plays giving NYG the win.  I felt bad about the wife thing too.

Madonna looked old and decrepit.  She stumbled on the bleachers.  At one point, she was on her knees singing something.  When she had to get up, she looked like a 60+ year old woman getting up after falling down some stairs.  I expected one of the back up dancers to come over and help her up.  All the somersaults, etc where 10% her and 90% the dancers picking her up and placing her where she was supposed to be.  It reminded me of that video from the late 80's or early 90's of that 80 year old dancer with the 20ish male dancer and all the acrobatic moves they did.  She just stayed stiff and hoped the guy didn't drop her while spinning her around.  Madonna can still entertain and the regular dance moves, singing and stuff was fine.  She should have stuck with that.  Doing all the other stuff just made her really show her age.

Posted by unkbill on Feb. 05 2012,19:59
I thought that was lady Gaga playing herself at 70.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 05 2012,21:52
Anyone notice the dual company commercials?

Chevy and Twinkies did a commercial together, as did Budweiser and GE.

I think Tampex/Trojan commercials write themselves...

Posted by thibodeaux on Feb. 06 2012,04:31

(unkbill @ Feb. 05 2012,22:59)
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I thought that was lady Gaga playing herself at 70.

Zing!
Posted by thibodeaux on Feb. 06 2012,04:32

(Leisher @ Feb. 06 2012,00:52)
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Chevy and Twinkies did a commercial together, as did Budweiser and GE.

I did notice the Bud/GE one, and I was like...wait, was that a commercial for beer or for jet engines?
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 06 2012,05:39

(Leisher @ Feb. 05 2012,22:36)
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Great game.

I liked that the Giants won. I think Coughlin is underrated as a coach, and Manning getting another ring makes the draft with him and Big Ben look more impressive. It also has got to kill Phillip Rivers who is as big a dick as they get.

Plus, Belichik's string of not winning shit since he got caught cheating continues, which is great since he cheated the Steelers in Big Ben's first AFC Championship game. The only way I felt bad for the Patriots tonight was they were playing for Robert Kraft's late wife.

Agree, 100%, same reasons I was cheering for the Giants.

And was cheering for Hakeem Nicks (former Tar Heel)

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 06 2012,05:41

(Leisher @ Feb. 06 2012,00:52)
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Anyone notice the dual company commercials?

Chevy and Twinkies did a commercial together, as did Budweiser and GE.

I think Tampex/Trojan commercials write themselves...

I wasn't sure the Twinkies one was complimentary to Twinkies.  The running gag about having so many preservatives they'd survive a holocaust or whatever.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 06 2012,05:41
I caught the Clint Eastwood one talking about Detroit, and how it is half time for America and "the world will once again hear the roar of our engines."

Has Clint seen the price of gas, lately?

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 06 2012,08:03
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I wasn't sure the Twinkies one was complimentary to Twinkies.  The running gag about having so many preservatives they'd survive a holocaust or whatever.


I think it showed they have a sense of humor about an urban myth. It also showed someone eating their product and probably made a lot of folks at home think "It's been a while since I've had a Twinkie."

What made me curious about the ad was that all these guys were thrilled to see each other after the apocalypse and sad that some other guy didn't make it. The first thing I thought was "Where are the chicks? Why are these guys so happy?"

QUOTE
I caught the Clint Eastwood one talking about Detroit, and how it is half time for America and "the world will once again hear the roar of our engines."

Has Clint seen the price of gas, lately?


Yeah, I did not dig that spot at all. I'm usually all for "ra ra go US!" bits, but that one seemed way, way off base. It really came across as propaganda and not truth. It reminded me of an ostrich with its head in the sand.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 06 2012,08:06
Yeah... and since Hostess is bankrupt, I guess any publicity is good publicity.

Gay people own Chevys?

I didn't see the Eastwood ads.  But I liked the Eminem one from last year.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 06 2012,08:06

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Posted by Leisher on Feb. 17 2012,11:05
< TCU is next on the scandal list. >
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 07 2012,17:48
QUOTE
“We were sitting there watching and [the owner] called as soon as they wrapped up and Peyton was walking off the stage with [Indianapolis Colts owner Jim] Irsay,” said a junior executive with one of the many teams rumored to be interested in Manning. “[Our general manager] kept assuring him, ‘We’re going to get a meeting with Manning and we’re going to do all our homework.’

Please don't be Snyder... Please don't be Snyder...

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 28 2012,10:16
< This is hilarious. >
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2012,07:29
< I'm pretty sure he spelled his name wrong. >
Posted by Leisher on May 01 2012,11:25
Did anyone see where Jim Harbaugh (or John...whichever one coaches the Ravens) blasted New England this week saying all of their titles have asterisks thanks to Spygate.

Love it!

Posted by TheCatt on May 01 2012,16:32
John.  

Didn't see it, but I did now.  Awesome.

Posted by Leisher on May 08 2012,13:28
< Guy gets NFL camp invite thanks to YouTube video. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 16 2012,18:30
< Cal Tech gets NCAA sanctions. >

QUOTE
The academic-oriented Division III school received a public reprimand, three years of probation and a 2012-13 postseason ban in men's basketball and 11 other sports for using 30 ineligible student-athletes the past four years.
At issue is Caltech's unique academic policy allowing students to shop for courses during a three-week period each quarter before cementing their class schedules. Since many students weren't registered for all the classes they attended during that period, that meant under NCAA rules they were not considered full-time students when they took the field.

Hey, NCAA... fuck it, nevermind.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 16 2012,19:08
That's ridiculous.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to Penn State.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Jul. 16 2012,19:19
I don't think NCAA should do anything to Penn State.  What Sandusky was doing didn't affect the program.  He broke the law.  Should Michigan have been punished when that coach who got fired a long time ago got drunk or whatever the hell it was?  (Actually, did MI get in trouble for it?!).  NCAA isn't in place to enforce laws.  It's there to keep good, clean sports happening.  Ya, I know, they don't.  But that doesn't mean they should punish Penn state.  The state of Pennsylvania should punish Penn State.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 17 2012,06:38
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I don't think NCAA should do anything to Penn State.  What Sandusky was doing didn't affect the program.  He broke the law.


Ohio State got busted because their players sold their own property without anyone, at that time, in the program knowing about it. They were already at the school, and it didn't affect the on field product one bit. However, this up coming year they won't be eligible for any bowl games, including the Big Ten championships because of those violations, which were committed by people who aren't even with the program anymore.

Oh, and by the way, none of those players broke any laws.

So "laws" and what "affects the program" doesn't mean shit.

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Should Michigan have been punished when that coach who got fired a long time ago got drunk or whatever the hell it was?  (Actually, did MI get in trouble for it?!).


No, that was a personal thing that didn't involve the school in any way, and they weren't punished.

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NCAA isn't in place to enforce laws.  It's there to keep good, clean sports happening.  Ya, I know, they don't.  But that doesn't mean they should punish Penn state.


Here's where I'm pretty sure you haven't followed the latest news. The Freeh report shows that Penn State's administrators knew about Sandusky's crimes, helped to cover them up, and thus, allowed him to continue molesting kids. One of those administrators was Joe Pa.

If Penn State was harboring a child molester so he could keep coaching that's something that involves the NCAA. Especially when you consider that the head coach was helping to hide the crimes.

We're talking about protecting a child molestor who is working within your football program and using it to molest kids.

Even if this was an SEC school the NCAA would have to do something.

< NCAA prez hints at big sanctions. >

Posted by Cakedaddy on Jul. 17 2012,17:30
The players selling goods they earned while playing (Trophies, jerseys, etc) and getting free tattoos made them paid professional players and were thus ineligible to play college ball.  But OSU let them anyway.

I knew they were all covering for him, and they should all go to jail for that.  If they can prove they did it so he could keep coaching, then the NCAA might have to do something.  But I don't know what Sandusky was doing there.  Was he actually involved in the program, or just one of the boys?

Ya, over all, I don't have enough info to have a strong opinion.  I'm just assuming that the NCAA will do what's best for the NCAA.  Again.  Where it goes overboard for minor stuff that won't hurt the NCAA and does nothing on major stuff that WOULD hurt the NCAA.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 17 2012,21:49
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The players selling goods they earned while playing (Trophies, jerseys, etc) and getting free tattoos made them paid professional players and were thus ineligible to play college ball.  But OSU let them anyway.


Uh, no.

First of all, OSU didn't let them, Tressel failed to report it when he found out. He's gone.

Secondly, you're missing an important element. OSU gave the players awards for their on field play. The players then sold those items without the school's knowledge. That's not the school paying players.

If you think it is, then I believe the NCAA let Michigan off easy when they punished the school for extra practice time. Obviously, the school enslaved the players...

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I knew they were all covering for him, and they should all go to jail for that.  If they can prove they did it so he could keep coaching, then the NCAA might have to do something.  But I don't know what Sandusky was doing there.  Was he actually involved in the program, or just one of the boys?


The allegations go back many, many years. He was allowed to continue coaching, to retire with honor, maintain an office on campus, and most importantly, have access to kids via camps, the school, and that charity.

Did Penn State gain a competitive advantage due to the cover up? An obvious advantage? No. However, I would argue that they did benefit from not reporting the crime. They avoided a scandal that could have tarnished their reputation, particularly among recruits.

Stephen A. Smith made a great point on ESPN tonight. He said that Penn State is a state school, and he thinks the state of Pennsylvania needs to take action since it funds Penn State.

Still, a football coach molested kids while he was associated with Penn State's football program. His bosses, including the head football coach, covered it up. All of these men deserve jail. I think the school will have no choice, but to disassociate itself from Joe Pa.

Football sanctions? You can't deny that this is football related.

What punishments beyond that? Time will tell.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Jul. 18 2012,13:07
Didn't say the school was paying them, only that they were paid.

Not tarnishing doesn't equal advantage.  It's avoiding a disadvantage.  Not justifying, only clarifying.

Stephen said that?  Been there, said that:
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The state of Pennsylvania should punish Penn State.


Agreed that those involved deserve jail time and punishments.

It's a slippery slope to punish a school for crimes committed by staff.  And this crime has NOTHING to do with football.  Him banging kids didn't bring better players, make better players, etc.  He was associated with the program.  But the program was not affected by his actions.  This didn't change the eligibility of players, increase/decrease coaches' influence on players like extra practice would, etc.  The program wasn't affected at all.  The only 'affect' that could be argued would be the 'avoidance of affect' by avoiding a scandal.  Would the NCAA have been involved if Penn State had blown the whistle at first notification?  The crime was still committed.  But since it wasn't covered up, then no harm, no foul?  I guess you could argue that it certainly would have affected his eligibility as a coach (assuming conviction, which is obvious) due to being in prison.  But I bet there are no NCAA rules against hiring a former child molester. And yes, I know Sandusky wasn't a former. . . but an active.  I'm just saying, there are no rules regarding child molesters.

So, if there are rules saying that the program has to inform the NCAA of anything that would affect the eligibility of a coach to be a coach, then the NCAA should do something.  As it stands, they just want to punish a football program at a school for the criminal activity of some of their staff.  Non-football related activity.  I think they should avoid that.  Punish the school because a player gets in a fight at a bar and kills someone?  Punish for football related rules only, I say.  Let the state and DA take care of the offenders.  Leave the innocent (guilty only by association?) football program alone.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 20 2012,18:35
< Miami is cheating again. >

I think they get the death penalty now.

QUOTE
Didn't say the school was paying them, only that they were paid.


Yes, they were paid...for their personal property they sold. They were NOT paid to play. You understand that distinction right?

[/QUOTE]It's a slippery slope to punish a school for crimes committed by staff.  And this crime has NOTHING to do with football.  Him banging kids didn't bring better players, make better players, etc.  He was associated with the program.  But the program was not affected by his actions.  This didn't change the eligibility of players, increase/decrease coaches' influence on players like extra practice would, etc.  The program wasn't affected at all.  The only 'affect' that could be argued would be the 'avoidance of affect' by avoiding a scandal.  Would the NCAA have been involved if Penn State had blown the whistle at first notification?  The crime was still committed.  But since it wasn't covered up, then no harm, no foul?  I guess you could argue that it certainly would have affected his eligibility as a coach (assuming conviction, which is obvious) due to being in prison.  But I bet there are no NCAA rules against hiring a former child molester. And yes, I know Sandusky wasn't a former. . . but an active.  I'm just saying, there are no rules regarding child molesters.[QUOTE]

I completely disagree.

It was a football crime because the key figure was a coach, the guy making the final call on NOT reporting him was the head coach, he had access to kids thanks to the program, when they found out they still allowed him access to the program, etc.

And what I mean by tarnished image is being associated with a child molester.

I have no idea how so many grown ass men could not only turn their back on this monster, but also continue to work with him, and be friends.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Jul. 20 2012,19:16
As soon as they sold the goods they were given while playing, those items had a cash value that was redeemed while in college.  They were paid.

"Here is a token.  Because you are a good player.  Now, if you take it over to that guy over there, he'll give you $100 for it."

They are earning a trophy while playing and cashing it in for the payout.  How can that not be getting paid?  Not to mention the free goods they were receiving.  What's the difference between a car and a tattoo?  Well, besides about $30,000.  But still.  The amount doesn't matter.  They are receiving compensation while playing college ball.  You can't do that.

If players were allowed to sell 'their own personal property that was given to them by the school and it's boosters', then every college would be giving out all kinds of meaningless crap that the boosters would then buy.

"Come play at Michigan!  We give you these M tokens.  We'll give you 100 every week because you'll do so well in practice.  And as it turns out, just outside the stadium are these machines that you can put the token in and it gives you cash!!"  But don't worry, we aren't paying you to play so it's all good.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 20 2012,19:20
QUOTE
As soon as they sold the goods they were given while playing, those items had a cash value that was redeemed while in college.  They were paid.

"Here is a token.  Because you are a good player.  Now, if you take it over to that guy over there, he'll give you $100 for it."

They are earning a trophy while playing and cashing it in for the payout.  How can that not be getting paid?  Not to mention the free goods they were receiving.  What's the difference between a car and a tattoo?  Well, besides about $30,000.  But still.  The amount doesn't matter.  They are receiving compensation while playing college ball.  You can't do that.

If players were allowed to sell 'their own personal property that was given to them by the school and it's boosters', then every college would be giving out all kinds of meaningless crap that the boosters would then buy.

"Come play at Michigan!  We give you these M tokens.  We'll give you 100 every week because you'll do so well in practice.  And as it turns out, just outside the stadium are these machines that you can put the token in and it gives you cash!!"  But don't worry, we aren't paying you to play so it's all good.


Well, no. You're implying the school gave them permission. They didn't. That's a BIG difference.

Former players and other players on the team made public statements about how disgusted they were that people would sell those items.

Also, if you make a bowl game, players are given goodie bags by the bowls. X-Boxes and stuff like that are in those bags. Players around the country sell those items. That's not illegal according to the NCAA.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Jul. 20 2012,19:38
But the school knew, and didn't do anything.  Until it was too late.

And I'm not surprised the NCAA has double standards like that.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 20 2012,19:53
QUOTE
But the school knew, and didn't do anything.  Until it was too late.


No, they didn't. Tressel knew way after the fact and then didn't report. That's why he's gone.

QUOTE
And I'm not surprised the NCAA has double standards like that.


Let's not forget how they pretend nothing is going on in the SEC.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 23 2012,07:51
< Penn State gets punished. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 23 2012,08:36
I've been torn on this, but I cannot object to it at all.  It certainly seems like the environment was not academics first.  And say as much as you want about that being true anywhere, but football may as well not exist if people involved in the program knew about this and didn't stop it.

I also feel UNC should be punished more strictly than they have been, especially with the fraudulent courses coming to light.    Sure it was just the one professor and his one staff person doing it, but UNC should have monitored the academics of their students more closely.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2012,09:32
My draft is tomorrow.  It's a keeper league, PPR, auction with $100 budget, can keep up to 4 players...

My potential keepers...

Ray Rice ... $27
Marshawn Lynch ... $3
Brandon Lloyd ... $6
Wes Welker ... $11
Marques Colston .. $10
Owen Daniels ... $6
Ahmad Bradshaw ... $15
Fred Davis ... $1
Matt Schaub ... $9
Tim Tebow ... $1

Much as it goes against my natural instinct to pay more than $20 for a player, I'm inclined to fork out $27 for Rice.  He's the sole RB on the team, he's a receiving back, he's about as consistent as you get, and a PPR league makes him a virtual lock for 10 points a week minimum.

Also going to shell out $11 for Wes.  In PPR, I'd be stupid not to.  The only thing keeping him from being a god is Gronk.

Then it's cheapo time.  Going with Fred David for $1 since he impressed me last year until that stupid delayed suspension.  Also thinking of keeping Lynch for $3 as it looked like he was getting legit in the second half of the year.

Thoughts?

Posted by Troy on Aug. 10 2012,10:19
HBO Hard Knocks is back, and the first epsidoe is on HBO.com for free.

They have plenty of gratuitous shots of bikinis clad women and cheerleaders to boot (It's in Miami).



re: FF , Lynch has gotta be worth 3 bucks, even if he gets suspended for that dui

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2012,10:39
Rice is strong, but that's a lot of cash.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2012,11:38

(Leisher @ Aug. 10 2012,12:39)
QUOTE
Rice is strong, but that's a lot of cash.

Paid $25 for LeSean McCoy last year and ended up trading him for Rice.  I can virtually guarantee if I let Ray go, he'll auction for more than $27.  In our league, he was the #1 RB last year by 50 points (next closest was LeSean, and I was so close to having them both as a 1-2 killer punch).  The only downside I see is the pricetag (and perhaps slightly excessive workload, but he's proven he can handle it for another couple years).  And it's looks like the top 3 is Arian, LeSean, and Ray.

If I go with my current strategy, I'll just need a QB, #2 WR, and flex to fill out my starters.  If I don't keep Ray, I'd have to keep Ahmad instead.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2012,11:57
How much money total do you get?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2012,12:04

(Malcolm @ Aug. 10 2012,11:32)
QUOTE
My draft is tomorrow.  It's a keeper league, PPR, auction with $100 budget, can keep up to 4 players...

$100
Posted by Troy on Aug. 12 2012,13:40
Chad, that is why you don't marry crazy. Even if it turns out it was all your fault.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 12 2012,16:12
QUOTE
Johnson and Lozada agree that the incident happened inside Johnson's "black smart" car in the driveway in front of their house. The disagreement started when Lozada "located a Walgreen's receipt in the vehicle's trunk for a box of condoms."


If his recent performances are any indication, he's probably not cheating on her; he just rubs them on his hands before every game.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 12 2012,16:12

(Troy @ Aug. 12 2012,16:40)
QUOTE
Chad, that is why you don't marry crazy. Even if it turns out it was all your fault.

Oddly enough, I googled Chad Pennington and found nothing.  Figured it out.
Posted by Troy on Aug. 12 2012,16:23
It sounds terrible, but going to wait for full details before passing judgement.

One of the two has a history of violence and random spats of anger. It isn't Chad.

Posted by Troy on Aug. 12 2012,18:07
Not that it mattered, He is now kicked off the Dolphins. Police report realllly didn't sound good. Everyone needs to just wash their hands of this dude and walk away.


Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 29 2012,11:23


< I laughed, but other people are getting all whiny. >

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 29 2012,11:32
Nice.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2012,22:32
I'm questioning the intelligence of the dudes I play fantasy football with.  I didn't learn it wasn't a PPR league until after the draft, even thought the commish assured me before that it was.  And 15 waiver claims for the entire season?  Christ, I'll burn through that in a month.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2012,07:44
< Art Modell dies, football world mourns.  Well, except maybe Cleveland. >
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 06 2012,08:23
Mark Titus is currently trolling Browns fans over that news on Twitter.

Meanwhile, < here's Chris Kluwe in a hilarious piece > on the replacement refs.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 07 2012,06:50
< New NFL team logos >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2012,07:30
The Denver one killed me.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 07 2012,13:43
< Maryland politician blasts Baltimore LB for supporting gay marriage. >

< Chris Kluwe responds... >

Chris Kluwe is fucking awesome.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 09 2012,13:52
RG3!!!!!!!
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2012,12:00
< Anyone else noticing the replacement refs >?
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 19 2012,12:28
They're terrible. Crazy phantom calls, no calls, and I've never seen so many late flags. Apparently, receivers can now dictate if they were interfered with...
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2012,12:33
There seems to be no major rush to get them ousted and have the professionals get back in.  How long before all penalties are just decided by crowd or online real-time voting?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 19 2012,12:35
They aren't god awful.  But there's at least 2 more mistakes per game than there used to be.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2012,12:47

(TheCatt @ Sep. 19 2012,14:35)
QUOTE
They aren't god awful.  But there's at least 2 more mistakes per game than there used to be.

Depending upon your definition of "god awful, " I guess.  I am by no means a NFL-calibre officiating guru, but when I'm noticing shit that's going wrong, I can only imagine what the coaches and players are seeing and thinking.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2012,15:05
< Hah >.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 21 2012,10:17
< The life of an NFL punter. >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 23 2012,17:11
So... When did the nfl get replaced with a random number generator?
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 24 2012,07:31
It's fucked up. I have no idea what the hell is going on anymore.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2012,07:50
Final votes will be in after Monday night.  We'll see if Seattle triumphantly thrashes Green Bay.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 24 2012,12:22
Highest scoring offenses in NFL:
Redskins
Ravens

Imagine that?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2012,12:26

(TheCatt @ Sep. 24 2012,14:22)
QUOTE
Highest scoring offenses in NFL:
Redskins
Ravens

Imagine that?

Only one of those two surprises me.  I've got the QB/RB combo for the one that doesn't.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2012,20:15

(Leisher @ Aug. 10 2012,12:39)
QUOTE
Rice is strong, but that's a lot of cash.

Totally fucking worth it so far.  The Ravens v. Patriots game saved my ass this week.  Flacco, Rice, and Welker.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 24 2012,21:52
Wow. I've never seen an ending like that.


Posted by Leisher on Sep. 24 2012,21:55
Your Anon Sports ‏@YourAnonSports
"If the NFL replacement refs were judging the Revolutionary War, we'd all be British."

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2012,05:40
Wow.
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 25 2012,06:37
An animated version:


Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 25 2012,06:51
I normally don't watch the footballings, but this was too amusing to pass up.  I had to watch the videos for more information, and I noticed something else that no one seems to be talking about.  When the ref came back to the field with the results of the official review, he said "Touchdown Denver."

Maybe they watched a video playback from a different game.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 25 2012,07:21
You're making that up!

Right...?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2012,07:25
The replays from the front make it look a lot more like a simultaneous catch.  I dunno, I think with normal refs, even if same call is made, people don't complain so much.

Seems the pass interference call shortly before was a bigger issue, but I don't see a replay of that anywhere.



Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 25 2012,07:34

(Leisher @ Sep. 25 2012,09:21)
QUOTE
You're making that up!

Right...?

Nope.  < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....e#t=71s >

He's drowned out a bit by the crowd, but he clearly gives the touchdown to Denver.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2012,07:48

(TPRJones @ Sep. 25 2012,10:34)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Sep. 25 2012,09:21)
QUOTE
You're making that up!

Right...?

Nope.  < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....e#t=71s >

He's drowned out a bit by the crowd, but he clearly gives the touchdown to Denver.

No, he's not.

"Game is over"

Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 25 2012,08:05
Oh, okay, yeah I can hear it that way now.

My bad.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2012,09:28

(TPRJones @ Sep. 25 2012,11:05)
QUOTE
Oh, okay, yeah I can hear it that way now.

My bad.

It was still funny... I made myself hear Denver the first time, and then I was like "wait.. that didnt quite sound right"... took about 5 tries to figure it out.

They did call some team the wrong name another game, but cant find that video.  Strangely every search for something about the refs just mentions last night.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 25 2012,13:21

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 26 2012,06:21
Chris Kluwe is listing names for the MNF debacle:
The Inaccurate Reception
The Fail Mary
Golden Taint

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2012,07:19
How 'bout, "We officially don't give a fuck about the integrity of the game anymore, just give us your money?"
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 26 2012,08:05
This is what happens when you hire replacement refs that were fired from the Lingerie Football League for being too incompetent to ref the games.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 26 2012,20:58
Sportscenter is reporting that a deal was reached minutes ago and the regular refs will be back Sunday, and maybe even for tonight's game.

How awesome is it that the replacement refs' final play was that TD/Int call?



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2012,21:08

(Leisher @ Sep. 26 2012,22:58)
QUOTE
Sportscenter is reporting that a deal was reached minutes ago and the regular refs will be back Sunday, and maybe even for tonight's game.

How awesome is it that the replacement refs' final play was that TD/Int call?

Brokering a deal is all about the leverage.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 27 2012,06:02
QUOTE
Tentatively, it calls for their salaries to increase from an average of $149,000 a year in 2011 to $173,000 in 2013, rising to $205,000 by 2019.

Not bad for part-time work.

Yep, back tonight.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2012,07:06
Conspiracy theory: Replacement refs were thought up and planned long ago by actual refs as a bargaining chip.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 27 2012,11:51
Say what you want about the NFL referees, < but this is kind of awesome. >

That really speaks to how seriously they take their job.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2012,15:28
I think they all just realized they've got a chance to be heralded as saviours for a few weeks when they're normally lambasted at every opportunity.
Posted by thibodeaux on Sep. 27 2012,17:41
Haven't really been paying close attention, but to me this seems like how a strike should work.

Labor: Pay us more or we strike!
Bosses: Go ahead, you're replace-able

(turns out, replacements aren't that great)

Bosses: Uh...yeah...here's some more money

If it turns out that the replacements do fine, then I'm all for that, too. And by God if I see how it should be legal for the Labor guys who are replaceable to stand around and assault the replacements. That shit should land them in jail.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 28 2012,04:32
Well, the problem in this case is that there are many tiers of refs.
Pro
IA College - Big Six
IA college - Other
IAA College
IAAA College
High school

etc

Well, none of the college people, the ones most likely to be good replacements, were willing to risk their jobs to move up.  So the NFL had to recruit from the lowest of the low.

Posted by thibodeaux on Sep. 28 2012,05:22
Somebody told me that in Texas, high school ref is above college ref.


Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 28 2012,07:07

(thibodeaux @ Sep. 28 2012,08:22)
QUOTE
Somebody told me that in Texas, high school ref is above college ref.

Somebody told me that everyone in Texas as no idea wtf BBQ is.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 28 2012,07:59

(TheCatt @ Sep. 28 2012,10:07)
QUOTE

(thibodeaux @ Sep. 28 2012,08:22)
QUOTE
Somebody told me that in Texas, high school ref is above college ref.

Somebody told me that everyone in Texas as no idea wtf BBQ is.

yeah i know that guy
Posted by thibodeaux on Sep. 28 2012,08:41
Just now had some delicious brisket from Humble Pig
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 28 2012,10:26
Awesome...

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2012,09:39
Anyone else fuck up their draft this year?  50% of my RBs busted.  My quarterbacks, on the other hand, are kicking ass.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 30 2012,12:21
All of my WRs are injured to some degree in my main league.  I'm 2 and 1, but doubt it can last.  Also have a Bradshaw in both leagues, sadly.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2012,14:23
I'd take Bradshaw over Redman (who may as well be Method Man's buddy) or the ironically named Jahvid Best.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 30 2012,18:21
If he weren't injured, I'd be fine with him/.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 30 2012,18:30
< Cowboys fan? This site is for you... >

< Thomas Decoud is awesome. >

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2012,19:00

(TheCatt @ Sep. 30 2012,20:21)
QUOTE
If he weren't injured, I'd be fine with him/.

Had him last year and rode the injury train.  Not doing that again.  Wonder what the split between Ahmad and Andre Brown's going to be.

While my luck in RBs might suck, I have the ability to pull WRs off the waiver wire and then make them huge.  I pick up Andre Roberts, he goes 110 plus and a couple scores.  This cannot be coincidence.  He looks to be getting better chances than Fitzgerald half the time.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2012,13:46
I need Michael Bush to suck so I can win both my leagues this week.  Got upper tier scores in both places, and I'm still probably going to lose both unless Bush tanks.


Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 01 2012,14:32
I need Miles Austin, 1 TD and I win... or a bunch of yards.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2012,18:10

(TheCatt @ Oct. 01 2012,16:32)
QUOTE
I need Miles Austin, 1 TD and I win... or a bunch of yards.

Having the Bears D suck it would assist, too.  Hope he crushes them.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 01 2012,18:52

(Malcolm @ Oct. 01 2012,21:10)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Oct. 01 2012,16:32)
QUOTE
I need Miles Austin, 1 TD and I win... or a bunch of yards.

Having the Bears D suck it would assist, too.  Hope he crushes them.

I WON!

Dallas can suck now.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2012,18:56
Dallas needs to score more.  Fucking INT TD.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2012,19:23
That TD looks like it's pressuring Romo not to suck.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2012,20:14
Fuck you, Chicago defense.  Fuck you all.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2012,09:22
< NYJ owner thinking about starting Tebow >?  I guess he didn't learn from Denver.  I have yet to see Tebow throw like a pro QB for more than one quarter in a game.


Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2012,10:20
Yeah, Sanchez can do at least 2 quarters.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2012,10:37

(TheCatt @ Oct. 03 2012,12:20)
QUOTE
Yeah, Sanchez can do at least 2 quarters.

I haven't seen him have a decent game this year yet, but I've seen it at least once in past seasons.  Tebow's still just a RB who occasionally throws.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2012,10:47
QUOTE
Still, a football coach molested kids while he was associated with Penn State's football program. His bosses, including the head football coach, covered it up. All of these men deserve jail. I think the school will have no choice, but to disassociate itself from Joe Pa.


< How does this have legal merit >?  Really, how does this fucker have the balls to ask for $4 million when he stopped just short of doing anything useful?

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2012,13:07
He has no other options in life now, and is hoping PSU will settle for enough for him to live on in order to quiet the issue.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2012,13:40
He can stand on street corners and let people kick him in the balls four million times for a buck each, then.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2012,18:11
< QBs on facebook >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2012,19:50
Watching Kevin Kolb get brutalized is hilarious.  But that's probably because I picked up the St. Louis D this week.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 05 2012,05:40

(TheCatt @ Oct. 04 2012,21:11)
QUOTE
< QBs on facebook >

That shit is comedy gold.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2012,07:40
Seconded.  Fucking brilliant.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2012,15:51
Did you see that Vegas is up 66% on NFL betting from last year?

I find it hilarious that the shitty gamblers I know are having a great year, while the more conservative, safe bet type of folks are getting killed.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2012,20:53
I seem to have "break even" syndrome whereby I start losing all my close games in one league, then start inexplicably winning in another.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 08 2012,10:35
Once again this weekend was a "WTF just happened" bonanza.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 08 2012,18:27
Started A. Bradshaw in one league, but not the one I care the most about.  Oh well.  

If I had started him, I'd have won already.  As it is, need Owen Daniels or Andre Johnson to score 6 fantasy points (after Daniels' TD)...

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2012,18:40
I need Andre Johnson + the Jets kicker to have 3 or fewer points than Owen.  Son-of-a-bitch had Reggie Wayne this week.  Fuck that zombie.

Andre Johnson's really going to have to suck since enemy kickers traditionally score fucking assloads of points against me, for some unknown reason.  If your kicker's sucking, a game against me is the best remedy.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 08 2012,18:46
I JUST NEED 6 POINTS. STOP RUNNING THE BALL
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2012,19:07
Run that bitch.  Run it like a V10 on a straightaway.

EDIT: Any throws to Owen Daniels are fine.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2012,19:15
Goddamnit.  Incomplete to Daniels inside the fucking 10.  And it's the Texans kicker that needs to suck.  I'm up by 7, incredibly, but that could be gone with one long bomb to Andre.  C'mon, Owen.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2012,20:07
Hey, Shayne Graham, go fuck yourself.  Stop those fucking field goals, jack-ass.

EDIT: Ray Rice and Joe Flacco picked quite the week to suck.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 09 2012,08:51
Tim Tebow played in the 666th MNF game.

Tell me that wasn't planned out prior to the season.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 09 2012,10:57
Not sure where I saw this clip posted (hell, it might have been one of you), but it's fantastic. The East team gets redundant, but stick around through the West team.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 09 2012,11:35
Two fantasy games for me this week, both of which made me want to kill someone...

1) I'm up 89-88 on Sunday night with no players left for either myself or my opponent.  Monday morning says I lose 87-88.  FUCK YOU, score correction.  FUCK YOU.

2) I have Owen Daniels vs. Shayne Graham and Andre Johnson.  Due to Johnson sucking and Daniels doing awesome, looks like I'm going to eeek out a victory.  Then the Texans line up TWO FUCKING FIELD GOALS in the last half of the game, one of which could easily have been Daniels's second TD.  I fucking tied that one.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 09 2012,12:44
Bah... I lost by 2 points.

At least my fantasy team's as bad as my real teams.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 09 2012,16:36

(Leisher @ Oct. 09 2012,10:51)
QUOTE
Tim Tebow played in the 666th MNF game.

Tell me that wasn't planned out prior to the season.

"Played" is such a strong word.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2012,10:34
< LT to Tebow: you need to get laid >.

EDIT: As the article points out...
QUOTE
Earlier in the show, Brown did ask Taylor about his May 2010 incident with an underage prostitute. In 2011, Taylor pleaded guilty to sexual misconduct and patronizing a 16-year-old prostitute.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2012,16:36
Looks like the Vikings D took another day off for a stripper cruise again.  On the plus side, I'm 27 points up with Owen Daniels v. Arian Foster tonight.  I expect that shit to be down to the wire because both Crabtree and Lynch tanked for me.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 14 2012,16:39
WWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm totally losing my fantasy game today though.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2012,19:16
Speaking of teams whose defense isn't showing up, goddamn, Houston.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 14 2012,19:34
I'm behind in both my games, but still have guys to go Monday night, and I'm not behind by much. In fact, in one league the guy I'm playing has scored the most points this week, and I'm 6 points behind him with Philip Rivers still to play, and Jordy Nelson in play now.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2012,20:15
Looks like Foster's out unless the game gets close.  C'mon, Owen.  It's not like they're throwing less when they're behind.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2012,20:36
Last week would be the week I dropped the Denver defense.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 15 2012,20:51
I needed 5 points from Rivers tonight, and he gave me 9 in his worst performance all year. I scored the most points in my one league, and beat the guy who scored the second most. I've been there, and I know that stings.

In my other league I had McGahee and Floyd, while he had Gates. I had the lead before the game, Gates scored 18 to give him a big lead, and with 2 minutes and change left Floyd got that 12 yarder to put me up by 2 points.

Two close wins...unless there are corrections tomorrow.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2012,07:27
Every league has at least one evil motherfucker that everyone wants to see have a losing record for once.  This week, I played that dude in one of my leagues.  I'm up by thirty or so points with Daniels, Crabtree, and Lynch up against just seemingly Arian Foster.  He proceeds to have a pedestrian game and the evil mofo forgets to start Jermichael Finley for Sunday night's game.  Figure I'm golden.  He gets Joel fucking Dreessen off waivers and needs him to put up 18 points (which would be 150% of Joel's best game this year).  First half, Joel does next to nothing.  Then, he lights up in the third quarter as the Broncos get the momentum shift after halftime.  Goes from two points to eleven in about five minutes, still a full quarter and two-thirds to go.  Then he wasn't heard from again.

Fucking victory over evil, netting me first in my division.  Got stomped in the other league because I was playing Jordy Nelson and dropped the Broncos D last week (which would've easily gotten me a win there, too).

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 16 2012,08:07
I was down 34 points, only had Denver D left to play... didn't even think about it.

I still lost, but holy shit:
Denver Broncos
TM DEN 7 @SD  4INT  4Sack  2TD W 35-24 28

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2012,08:19
A couple comments from the nfl.com board during the game (which are normally 100% worthless smack talk)...

1) "Who's going to score more TDs, Peyton or the Denver D?"
2) From a Saints fan, "We got Drees Brees coasting to the Hall of Fame while San Diego is stuck with a petulant child."



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 18 2012,16:06
WSJ published an article today stating that if the NFL teams were replaced by 50-50 coin flips , there would be 10 3-3 teams on average.

11 teams in the NFL are 3-3



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2012,13:14
I'm going to win both my games this week, I think.

One of them is by far the shittiest showing I've had in a bit.

Ray Rice
Crabtree
Lynch
Phil Dawson

The only dude who's done above average is Owen Daniels.  Got Big Ben, Denarius Moore, and Welker to go.  Opponent's somehow doing worse.  Up on me by 3 with Baron Batch to go.  I like those odds.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 21 2012,13:29
I've got the Jets D to go... and a 7 point lead.  I'm screwed.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 25 2012,12:58
Retro uniforms... Steelers go a bit too far


Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 25 2012,12:59
< They looked a lot better in black and white >
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 25 2012,13:22
Those are fucking ugly.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2012,13:45
They all look like the kid from that Blind Melon music vid.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 25 2012,15:03
I feel sorry for the Redskins.  I'm pretty sure they'll be stunned into losing.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2012,17:44
Hey Leish, when did Pittsburgh change its team to the Bumblebees?

EDIT: Why are they picking the '34 uniform?  To remind everyone of the height of the Great Depression?



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 25 2012,18:13
QUOTE
Why are they picking the '34 uniform?


Because Nike hasn't sold that version yet?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2012,10:13
The bye weeks are hitting my RBs in one league where I absolutely fucked up my RB picks this year.  Ray Rice and Lynch are the only two I had worth starting and I got one half of a backup.  I paid out the ass for the only other starting RB on the waiver wire this week, LaRod Stephens-Howling (I can't help but picture the were-car from Futurama whenever I hear his name).  Rice is on bye.  This means I had to pick between were-car at Frisco on Monday night and the third RB from KC (granted, KC's playing the shitty run D of the Raiders).  I had to grudgingly start were-car for now, but I suppose I've got another three hours or so to flip-flop.


Posted by Leisher on Oct. 28 2012,10:28
I have never heard of that guy.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2012,11:20
LaRod is the dude that got the unenviable Arizona RB job with Beanie Wells hurt and William Powell sucking, and there might even have been one other dude they burned through.  The third RB in KC is Shaun Draughn, who's good for about 5 - 10 a week.  He's not a starter so unless he gets garbage time and breaks for a score, he's only useful if he's catching passes.  LaRod might see 10 carries.  I could see him getting anywhere between 3 - 15 points.  Fucking 12 team, 16 man roster leagues.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2012,11:32
Looks like Welker isn't going to do jackshit today.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 28 2012,18:01


I'm the team with 40 points.

J Feely FTW... 1 FG or a few PATs and I'm there.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 28 2012,18:03
On an un-related note, 2 pt conversion tries should totally be returnable.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2012,21:18
All my players had shitty, mediocre weeks.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 29 2012,05:42
Yeah, I've been averaging >90 pts... I'll be happy to have half that this week.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 29 2012,06:17
So-So weekend.

The real teams I root for both won easily, while both of my fantasy teams got crushed.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2012,07:50
My replacement TE didn't pan out.  My D and kicker contributed 4 combined fucking points.  Phucking Phil Dawon.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 29 2012,10:13
Well, you can't blame Dawson. The weather shut down both teams.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2012,10:31
This is the second week in a row, I believe, he's kicked one fucking point.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 29 2012,10:39
You realize he plays for Cleveland right?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2012,10:47
I'm not asking for Cleveland to get TDs or even win, just to get in the red zone 3-4 times a game and have it not end on a fucking turnover.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 29 2012,14:16

(Malcolm @ Oct. 29 2012,13:47)
QUOTE
I'm not asking for Cleveland to get TDs or even win, just to get in the red zone 3-4 times a game and have it not end on a fucking turnover.

I ask to win the lottery too... still aint gonna happen.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2012,14:30
Phil had a steady string of 10+ point games going before I took him and he starting sucking.  The Ravens kicker pulled the same shit on me, and after I drop his ass, he's back up to about 10 per game.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 29 2012,15:29
KICKERS ARE RANDOM
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2012,07:07
No they aren't.  They perform consistently well until I pick them up, then they suck.  Then after I drop them, they do well again.

In other news, benching Michael Crabtree just screwed me this week.  FUCK FUCK FUCK.  Michael Crabtree is fucking random.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 30 2012,07:50

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 30 2012,09:00

(TheCatt @ Oct. 28 2012,21:01)
QUOTE


I'm the team with 40 points.

J Feely FTW... 1 FG or a few PATs and I'm there.

43-42 bitches!

At least, I think so, given that the website appears to have been a victim of the storm.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2012,11:09
Hey, there was a game today between Chicago and Tennessee ... for about half a quarter.  Goddamn.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2012,12:09

(TheCatt @ Oct. 29 2012,17:29)
QUOTE
KICKERS ARE RANDOM

So, I drop Phucking Phil Dawson, who has 3 FGs today and 1 XP.  I picked up Justin Tucker, who has 2 XPs.  Random my fucking ass.

EDIT: Phucking Phil now has 5 FGs.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 04 2012,13:19
Yes, RANDOM, as in, JUST STICK WITH THE FUCKER.  Mean reversion, bitch.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 05 2012,07:26
Phil Dawson was lights out!  :D

I can't believe the Steelers won that game. They had to fly that day, had no hotel, no place for their typical meetings/walkthru, and the officials were crazy biased for the Giants (They were directly responsible for the Giants first 14 points.), and yet they still pulled it off.  Giood statement game. Hopefully, they won't shit it away with a poor showing against KC next week.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 05 2012,09:28
Eli could not get it going at all...
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2012,09:39
In spite of not having Phil, I win, if only because my opponent started...
RG3
Ahmad Bradshaw
Law Firm
Cruz
Santana Moss

He's got Jimmy Graham and Maclin going tonight with me up by about 60 points.  On the flip side, there was a dude in my league this week that destroyed.
Reggie Wayne
Andre Johnson
Andrew Luck
Chris Johnson
Doug Martin

He's at 170 and still has the New Orleans D going tonight.  Martin got 64 points by himself.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 06 2012,06:26

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 06 2012,19:24
Isn't it weird how the universe balances itself?

< Al Davis: Part 2 >

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2012,22:28
It's Texas.  They've got a special sort of insane going on with football.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 11 2012,12:59
I started the year with Jets defense.  But they sucked so hard I had to pick up another team.  I picked Denver:

TM DEN 7 @CAR1TD1INT7Sack1TD 5:09 4th 24

That's more than half my points so far this week.  #4 Defense in the league, and probably moving up since Giants and Texans are the ones right above them.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2012,17:04
League A: I've got the least points scored in my div, but the least points scored against as well.  1st in my div, tied for 2nd/3rd best record overall out of 12 (would be 1st/2nd but some son-of-a-bitch has Chicago D).

League B: Every RB I touch gets injured.  Every D I play has a career game against me.  I have the most points against by a 100 point margin.  Also only got 1 claim left because this psycho fucking league only allows 15 per season.  Dead last out of 10.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2012,10:40
Rex Ryan must know something.
QUOTE
“I’m not going to let anyone else convince me otherwise, because this is how I feel,” Ryan said after the game. “[Sanchez] gives us the best opportunity to win games and that’s the only reason I make any moves.”

How much does Tebow have to suck such that Mark Sanchez is the better bet to win games?



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 12 2012,11:12
Why did they even pick him up?

And how did Houston's D outplay Chicago's.

Well, my fantasy season is as over as the Redskins' real season.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2012,11:25
QUOTE
Why did they even pick him up?

I imagine the same reason the Eagles picked up Vick.  It's nice to have a backup that's actually played a real NFL game or had a starting stint, no matter how brief.  He came cheap from a motivated buyer, and he looked better than some new kid they could draft or some old dude they could pick up on waivers or trade for.

QUOTE
And how did Houston's D outplay Chicago's.

That's something I've been trying to figure.  They only outplayed them slightly, and I'd argue a non-concussed Jay Cutler means a Chicago win.  Chicago only got two turnovers (both Matt Schaub INTs) and neither were fumbles.  Also, it's not that hard to look good against Jason Campbell.  The Texans still put up an impressive D, though, and managed to crack 100+ rushing yards (while passing for only 95).

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2012,17:52
With my fantasy seasons past midway...

League A: First in div and sitting pretty for the forseeable future.  One solid wideout, one slightly flaky. Kick-ass TE.  Two serviceable QBs.  Two solid, reliable, not splitting carries RBs.  Two RBs plus one WR I can rotate in and out of flex.  In spite of perhaps jinxing myself, I've avoided any huge injuries to key dudes.

League B: Fucked.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2012,19:33
Steelers look kind of fucked without Big Ben.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 13 2012,05:44
What, 4 QBs lost for at least a game this weekend?
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 13 2012,06:17
I had forgotten how bad giant Gary Coleman's throwing motion was...
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2012,07:21

(TheCatt @ Nov. 13 2012,07:44)
QUOTE
What, 4 QBs lost for at least a game this weekend?

It's almost like having multiple 250+ pound freaks of nature who can also run 4.5s rip towards you with the combined force of a small automobile might be hazardous to your health, safety equipment  be damned.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 13 2012,09:30

(TheCatt @ Nov. 13 2012,05:44)
QUOTE
What, 4 QBs lost for at least a game this weekend?

Von Miller rocked Newton so many times, it might as well count as 5.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2012,09:51
If Carolina ever got a team, they might win some games.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 13 2012,16:42
So... last week I traded away my #2 QB figuring I could get by with my #3 (Andrew Luck) if my #1 (Vick) got hurt.

I was starting to feel pretty dumb about my trade until this morning.  My #2 had been Ben Rothlisberger.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2012,18:07
Yeah.  He and Flacco have been alternating starts.  Looks like Joe's in for a bit.  Fuck.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 14 2012,06:21

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 14 2012,18:32
I have a choice between two fucked up QBs this week...

1) Joe Flacco at Pittsburgh
2) Nick Foles at Washington

Flacco killed the Steelers last year and had a decent week previous to this one.  Given his consistency, he'll probably suck this week.  On the other hand, the other's a dude making his first NFL start.  I'm actually very up in the air on this one.  Thoughts?

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 15 2012,05:24
Gah.  I'd go with Foles, cuz Washington's D is that bad.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2012,11:01
Tebow's teammates: "< You're terrible >."

You're 3-6 and your team has no sense of cohesion or glimmer of hope of salvaging this season.  Sanchez has to have what, two or three games max where he sucks before you figure the Jets really have nothing to lose.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2012,09:25
Andre Roberts at Atlanta or Michael Crabtree going against Chicago?
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 18 2012,09:43
Andre roberts
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2012,09:47
I really wish Andre didn't have the early game.  It just feels weird putting in Arizona's #2 over SF's #1.  I am very curious to see what Mark Ingram and Pierre Thomas do to justify their existence while Chris Ivory has two weeks of doing twice as much as both of them on half the carries.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2012,10:09
Goddamnit, Foles.  50% completion ratio to the other team is not good.

EDIT: Another one?  Are you shitting me?  Foles and LaRod Stephens-Howling may cancel each other out at this point.  This is the game between me and the second place dude in my div.  I'm half a game up on him.  He already forgot to start a D and Reggie Bush sucked Thursday, so he's in a slightly worse hole than I am.  Will definitely need the second wave of players to put up decent games unless Foles can come back from the dead.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2012,15:39
Fucking Gronkowski.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2012,06:34
WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!1

First: I was at the Redskins' Eagles game.  FUCK YEAH!

Second: I have Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson on my fantasy team.  FINALLY those fuckers pay off.  I'm up 51 points, other team has 1 player left: the 49ers D

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 19 2012,07:03
I had Big Ben as my fantasy starter...now I've got to play Rivers.

I also have Antonio Brown.

I had Maurice Jones-Drew in both my leagues.

I started Willis McGahee last night.

So if you want to see someone get hurt, let me know who, and I'll pick them up and start them.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2012,07:05
The backup Texan TE got the numbers the starter should've had.  Fucking hell.

EDIT: Big Ben's injury also forced me to play Nick Foles.  Goddamnit.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2012,07:51
Is that who Graham is?  Daniels was injured, so makes sense that Graham would have gotten more action.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2012,08:06
Garret Graham recorded more points yesterday than the whole of his career up to that point.  He got more yesterday than last week, when he was actually fucking starting.


Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2012,08:14
That's about right:

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2012,11:22
bump
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2012,16:48
So... Charlie Batch, eh?
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 19 2012,16:55
Oops, accidentally locked it.  My bad!
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2012,17:13

(GORDON @ Nov. 19 2012,19:55)
QUOTE
Oops, accidentally locked it.  My bad!

So rude.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2012,20:59
Crabtree blew Andre out of the water but wouldn't've saved my ass.

EDIT: Oh my FUCKING GOD!  I WON!  And my opponent lost Gronk for a few weeks.  Sweetness.  Fucking LaRod Stephens-Howling, the Lynch fill-in, had high score.  This is also probably his last week starting for Arizona.  Tied for best record in the league, oddly enough tied with the dude I had a tie game with.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2012,10:38
Is there anyone that thinks Andy Reid is keeping his job for next year with the Eagles?
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 20 2012,10:41
No.  Not even Andy Reid.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 20 2012,10:50
No. Andy Reid is long gone, and everyone knows it.

Even if he wins the division, he'd need to make a deep run in the playoffs to save his job.

Both he and the team need a change. However, the one who really needs to be fired is whomever gave Michael Vick another $100 million contract.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2012,10:59
Speaking of people whose heyday has passed, < Look who's rejoining the Steelers >.  Hopefully he won't shoot himself in the leg, figuratively or literally.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2012,17:58
Who's watching next Monday night's game?  Carolina and Philly?  Shit, they should've scheduled some football teams.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 20 2012,18:36
The return of Plaxico.

Actually, this could be a sneaky good signing.

He's, hopefully, learned something, and he's the tall target Ben wants that allows him to toss balls high into the end zone.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2012,19:18
QUOTE
He's, hopefully, learned something...

It's important to pay attention to safeties?

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 21 2012,10:39
I fucking love this week...


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2012,11:10
Maybe some day I'll give a shit about college sports ... nah.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 21 2012,12:52
Well, it is ALL that OSU has to play for this year :)


Posted by Leisher on Nov. 21 2012,13:38
You mock my Buckeyes and my Steelers in the same post?

I'm glad Butler beat UNC...  :D

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 21 2012,15:35

(Leisher @ Nov. 21 2012,16:38)
QUOTE
You mock my Buckeyes and my Steelers in the same post?

I'm glad Butler beat UNC...  :D

There's always... oh, wait... it is basketball season.  :(



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2012,09:55
Goddamn Dez Bryant and Stafford.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 25 2012,16:05
12-0 Buckeyes, but the Steelers looked terrible today.

I predict they'll grab a young QB in the draft next year. Just someone they can groom in case Ben goes down again.

Still, to only lose by 6, on the road, when you give up 8 turnovers is kind of impressive.

Posted by GORDON on Nov. 25 2012,16:06
Who won the Sacko?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2012,20:14
When I last checked at the end of Thursday, I was more than doubled up in score.  Tonight, I took just now and I find, dumbfounded, that I'm probably going to win.  I'd like to add it's because I got Larry Tynes kicking instead of Justin Tucker.

EDIT: Unless Coughlin keeps going for it on 4th.  Wtf?  Kick the field goal, you ass.  Crabtree and Lynch let me the fuck down this week.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 26 2012,07:25
I tied as of last night.  This morning, I find out Forte got hit with a fumble, knocking my opponent down one point, meaning I win.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 26 2012,08:55
I'm in a 12 team league... we have a 4-way tie for 6th place (last spot in playoffs).  I'm leading the tie-breaker in that group, at 5-6.

3 of the 5-6 teams won, and the 1 6-5 team lost, so we'll have another 4-way tie at 6-6 for spots 5/6.  To make 7-6, I just have to beat the worst team in the league (2-9).  Unfortunately, they were the worst because their owner was lazy, and did nothing during the bye weeks, and the byes are gone now.  The team is actually pretty good, and has 2nd most points this week.

I've got Manning and Schaub as QBs.  I've used Schaub past two weeks, but I think I have to go Manning against the Redskins... Although Schaub versus Titans isn't bad either.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 26 2012,09:06
I'm still tied for best record at 8-3-1.  There's another dude at 8-4.  The top two teams get byes the first week of postseason.  Of us three next week, I've got the easiest matchup.

I had Schaub last year.  His problem was when the Texans got out too far in front too early.  They need a team that can keep up with their scoring.  The way Manning's been throwing, I'd go him over Schaub.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 27 2012,12:14
First Fireman Ed quit, and now < this video > has emerged.

Ouch.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 27 2012,13:20
I really don't see what they have to save by not starting Tebow or shaking things up in a major way.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 27 2012,14:49
Eagles to fans: Until the end of this season, < we're riding this fucking Titantic all the way to the ocean floor >, bitches.  Strap in.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 27 2012,18:33
I need 2 of 3...

Denarius Moore v Cleveland
Crabtree at STL
Andre Robers at NYJ

I'm leaning Moore and Roberts at the moment until I hear Alex Smith confirmed as the starter.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 30 2012,10:25

(TheCatt @ Nov. 26 2012,11:55)
QUOTE
3 of the 5-6 teams won, and the 1 6-5 team lost, so we'll have another 4-way tie at 6-6 for spots 5/6.  To make 7-6, I just have to beat the worst team in the league (2-9).  Unfortunately, they were the worst because their owner was lazy, and did nothing during the bye weeks, and the byes are gone now.  The team is actually pretty good, and has 2nd most points this week.

So... I was the tie-breaker winner in the 4-way 5-6 tie.  I am a tie-breaker loser in the new 4-way 6-6 tie.

Good news is that the team I'm playing this week has Brees as QB and Julio Jones as a WR.  They combined for 13 points last night.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2012,10:50
I'm betting a loss for me this week.  That doesn't bode well at it looks like that knocks me out of a first round bye.
Posted by Troy on Dec. 01 2012,10:16
Awful story coming out of KC.

Pretty sure the panthers aren't playing this week.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2012,11:53

(Troy @ Dec. 01 2012,12:16)
QUOTE
Awful story coming out of KC.

Pretty sure the panthers aren't playing this week.

Pretty sure the Panthers don't play most weeks.

But seriously...
QUOTE
The Panthers reportedly have been told by the NFL to keep plans to travel to Kansas City for the game.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 01 2012,12:28
More than a little surprised at that. The head coach literally just watched one of their own players kill himself, and all.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2012,13:48
Maybe this dude was a stable, mentally together individual and all this comes as a major shock.  On the other hand, some people exhibit signs of "crazy" long before the destructive surge, kind of like volcanoes.  Maybe he's one of those.  In that case, I'd imagine getting back to biz as usual seems the most reasonable option.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 02 2012,11:46
< Cleveland employee kills self too. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2012,11:57
Colin Kaepernick = Tim Tebow
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2012,12:21
Holy Christ.  Chris Ponder is making me remember the days of T-Jack with fondness now.  Holy fuck.  Five completed passes through 3 quarters.  Zero of those passes are to WRs playing Green Bay's D.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 02 2012,16:17
Just need Ravens to score against Pitt, preferably Ray Rice
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 02 2012,16:18
Tomorrow night: Giants vs Skins, i have Bradshaw and Morris - Who gets the start?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2012,17:10
Down by 13 with the Cowboys D and Larry Tynes against Romo.  He pretty much needs to get injured in the first half for me to win.  Good news is that the dude who was 3rd overall is probably going to lose as well and I get to keep my bye week.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 03 2012,04:20
Trick question: Apparently I should have just started Bryce Brown instead of either one.  Damn.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,07:30
Soon as McCoy gets back, Brown's gone again.  That fumble he gave up didn't help.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,10:40
< Speaking of Eagles who aren't playing this season >.  Here's hoping that Vick's career is finally over and I can stop reading/listening to/hearing about him.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,10:44
< Bob Costas goes batshit insane on SNF >.

He was quoting < this equally batshit insane dude >.
QUOTE
He quoted extensively from a piece by Fox Sports columnist Jason Whitlock, who wrote that “our current gun culture simply ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy" and concluded that “if Jovan Belcher didn't possess a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.''

Go fuck yourself, Bob.  I don't tune in to be preached to, you grandstanding, opportunistic asshole, and go fuck yourself, Jason, you delusional, statistically ignorant dipshit.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2012,12:20
Because Javon didn't own knives or have the ability to beat her to death?

I used to have a lot of respect for Costas...no more.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,13:06
I really wish history from the Dark Ages survived so we'd have a shitload of public proclamations condemning crossbows or something.

Things that annually kill more people than guns (< 9 - 10K U.S. folk per year >)

1) < automobiles at ~30K per year >
2) < prescription drugs > (~35 - 40K per year)
3) < booze (over 70K per year, but some crossover with traffic deaths) > ... better outlaw that shit right away because you can always put down a gun at a second's notice whereas immediately ceasing to be drunk is a bit more difficult

Start talking about reforming that shit before you get near firearms.  Gun owners, I'd wager most of them aren't shooting on a daily basis.  Most drivers drive damn near every day, most drug users use drugs damn near every day.  I sometimes wonder if people realize violence predates TV and firearms.



Posted by GORDON on Dec. 03 2012,13:19

(Leisher @ Dec. 03 2012,15:20)
QUOTE
Because Javon didn't own knives or have the ability to beat her to death?

I used to have a lot of respect for Costas...no more.

Had a feeling y'all would be talking about this.

My first thought when I heard of this was.... I wonder if Costas wasn't supporting and glorifying a support with a proven record of destroying mens bodies and brains, if those 2 would still be alive.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,13:35
Yeah, they've got a couple former NFL players who committed suicide who also tested positive for some neurological disease linked to increase chances for suicide.  That disease comes from repeated head trauma.  What a fucking coincidence.  Then again, this is also the same league that lets convicted felons and murderers keep playing.

Also, if more guns equals more death, then < these > < two > lists should have the same ordering.

EDIT: If you take away all the gun-related suicide deaths (people shooting themselves instead of others), you more than halve the gun-related deaths in the U.S.  The 9 countries that have fewer firearms per capita than the U.S. have a HUGE lead in terms of gun-related homicides.  I'd like to note that all 9 are in Central or South America.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,13:58
Gun debates aside...

Sanchez, Tebow, or McElroy?  Shit, Vinny Testeverde or Chad Pennington almost sound like a better options.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 03 2012,19:15
Go Manning/Garcon/Morris - Beat Nicks!  Just need them to keep their 16 pt lead.

And Redskins, go too.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 04 2012,05:44
Redskins! RG! WOoooooOOoo!  WE MAY NOT BE LAST IN OUR DIVISION THIS YEAR!!!!

And my fantasy team won last 3 games, to finish 7-6, 6th seed in the playoffs, and will play the other 7-6 team, who won their division.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 04 2012,08:06
Finished 1st in div, 2nd overall.  Got a first round bye.  Will play #3 or #6 in in the semi-final.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 04 2012,18:28
Both my teams sucked. If you were a player I drafted, you either had a career bad year or you got hurt. Sorry Ben, Maurice, Antonio, Willis, etc.

In different news, < Bob Costas backed off his statement about gun control...kinda. >

Jason Whitlock, the writer Costas mentioned as the inspiration for his remarks, wrote the piece, and here's how it ends:
QUOTE
Whitlock and Costas have gotten together on this podcast to share their insights about the myriad issues related to this tragedy.

We invite you to listen, and learn.


The fucking arrogance is amazing. I used to not mind Whitlock, but that reeks of "I'm right and you're wrong", which wouldn't be horrible if it wasn't for the fact that every single example in human history says he's wrong.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2012,07:20
< Costas bitchslapped >.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2012,09:03
Ray Rice's lightened workload is going to suck.  Hopefully Alex Green steps up, because he and Rice's handcuff are the only other RB options I got.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 05 2012,09:15

(Malcolm @ Dec. 05 2012,12:03)
QUOTE
Ray Rice's lightened workload is going to suck.  Hopefully Alex Green steps up, because he and Rice's handcuff are the only other RB options I got.

Where did you read that?  Guess I'm starting Bradshaw or Brown
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2012,09:35

(TheCatt @ Dec. 05 2012,11:15)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Dec. 05 2012,12:03)
QUOTE
Ray Rice's lightened workload is going to suck.  Hopefully Alex Green steps up, because he and Rice's handcuff are the only other RB options I got.

Where did you read that?  Guess I'm starting Bradshaw or Brown

Rumour is that he's being given fewer carries to prepare for the postseason, or rather his backup is getting more carries (at least 7 every game in the past month outside the Steelers game).  The Ravens know how screwed they'd be if their offense was put entirely on the shoulders of Flacco, and after a couple years of having him on my roster, his workload down indeed go down unless he's in a playoff race.  Baltimore's not feeling the heat from Pittsburgh until Big Ben gets back.  More work for Rice probably comes from Pittsburg going on a tear.

Pick up Bernard Pierce if you've got Ray.  I'm also trying to snag Alex Green off the waiver wire tomorrow.  Don't get me wrong, I'd still start Ray this week, but unless you're PPR, he's probably not going bring you mammoth points like you'd want.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2012,09:43
< How screwed are the Jets >?  Screwed enough to go with Mark "Dirty" Sanchez again, which I think will be his new name until he stops playing like shit.

QUOTE
In his attempt to explain the unexplainable -- a three-way quarterback competition during Week 14 of a 17-week season -- New York Jets coach Rex Ryan dug deep into his near-empty bag Monday to pull out the only line left in a season of failed rhetoric.

This decision, he said, would be based on "what gives us the best opportunity to beat Jacksonville."

Yeah, beating Jacksonville this weekend is going to keep your season next year from being a train wreck.

They're paying Tebow like a backup QB, but he's not in when the starter's performance is tanking?  What the fuck?  Did you trade for him on a drunken bet?  Were you hoping the threat of QB competition might spur Dirty Sanchez to become better?  You brought in a backup QB that has fewer career throws than Antwan Randle-El so he could run draws once or twice a game, to the tune of a few million dollars?  NYJ managers and coaches need to stop making decisions after doing lines of blow off their playbooks, because they sure as hell aren't using them for football.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 05 2012,11:26
Tebow is hurt, so I get not starting him.

What I don't get is not starting McElroy. You've seen Sanchez for 4 years now? Is he about to become the next Montana within the next 3 days? Highly unlikely.

Start McElroy and see what he brings to the table. Worst case scenario is he sucks, and Sanchez gets a fire lit under his ass.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2012,12:36
It's like Rex is daring the ownership to fire his ass.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 06 2012,08:56
< Interesting option to replace kickoffs. >

< NFL exec and retired, but well known, player about to be named in prostitution case. >

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2012,10:32
My care factor in people paying prostitutes: 0

That punt instead of kickoff idea isn't so bad...

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 06 2012,11:00
My care factor is high for two reasons:
1. I've been trying to guess who it is for fun. I'm guessing it's going to be someone on TV.
2. They're hinting Roger Goodell will be named, which would be awesome. Imagine him meeting with a player to fine him, and the player saying, "You're just taking my money so you can get laid."

As for the punt thing, I love the concept of it, but I can see it being worked by shifty QBs and WRs, like Tom "Throw the flag ref!" Brady.

Currently, an onside kick is ALL about the players on the field. As soon as you let teams throw for possession, it brings the officials into it. That's bad.

I see a LOT of shitty pass interference calls, and allowing them to determine possession is scary.

Although, if they made a mandatory rule that all pass interference calls on this specific play will be automatically reviewed and can be reversed, then I might buy more into it.

Speaking of reviews, they need to re-examine that whole system. The Steelers got fucked against the Browns on back to back plays in that game, and neither was reviewed.

It was late in the 4th with just around 2 minutes left, and the Steelers had burned their time outs stopping the clock. They were near mid field, and driving when Chris Rainey fumbled. The only problem is that turnovers are supposed to be automatically reviewed, and based on all the replays it was very clear to anyone watching, including the announcers, that his knee was down before the ball came out. But, no review, and the Browns took over.

On the very next play, Trend Richardson was standing up and got hit hard enough to dislodge the ball. He stumbled to his left and fell where they whistled the play dead and ruled no fumble. Again, everyone with eyes, including the announcers, could see that he clearly fumbled and the Steelers recovered. No review.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2012,11:36
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Speaking of reviews, they need to re-examine that whole system.

Eh, they're not concerned with getting the call right.  They're concerned with rival teams not throwing a fucking red flag every two minutes during close games at the end of the season.  The game between the Lions and the Texans on Thanksgiving cemented that notion.  Same goes for baseball.  Slow motion photography should eliminate any "close calls" at first base.  They obviously don't give a fuck, though.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2012,09:51
< Vikings reveal winning strategy against the Bears >.

QUOTE
The Minnesota Vikings' season will be on the line Sunday against the Chicago Bears. As such, linebacker Chad Greenway has asked fans to get "super-duper drunk" in order to boost the Vikings' home-field advantage at the Metrodome.

Nice, Chad.  Nice.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2012,09:26
Mark Sanchez's contract completely < fucking over > the Jets.  Also, Mark Sanchez is completely fucking over the Jets.  Looks like Tebow's his backup today, too.  Though if your starting QB has to be benched against Jacksonville, you may want to forfeit the rest of your season.

EDIT:
QUOTE
"I don't care if Jacksonville is Tebow's home town," Namath tweeted (obviously without spell-checking). "I believe we have a better chance of winning with McElroy replacing Sancez."

Damn.  First John Elway hates on Tebow in Denver, then Namath in New York.  I still have yet to see Tebow suck as badly (for four quarters) as these dudes think he does.  If I ever talked to him off the field, I'd probably smack him, but I need a legit reason to call his skills shit.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 09 2012,13:38
EPIC Redskins / Ravens game.  Just WOW.

My fantasy team looks fucked, but hey - If Redskins make playoffs, fuck fantasy playoffs.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 09 2012,16:54
Me "Oh, i'm playing against the Seattle defense, what's the worst that could happen?"

58-0
41 fantasy points. Christ.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2012,17:02
It's good to be on bye.

EDIT: Also, Cincy and Pittsburgh losing means the Ravens' loss evens everything out.  Which means they still have to play Ray because there's still a threat.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 09 2012,18:58

(Troy @ Dec. 09 2012,19:54)
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Me "Oh, i'm playing against the Seattle defense, what's the worst that could happen?"

58-0
41 fantasy points. Christ.

Wow.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 10 2012,07:15
Steelers had a huge let down game. Not a good showing against the shitty ass Chargers.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2012,07:45

(Leisher @ Dec. 10 2012,09:15)
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Steelers had a huge let down game. Not a good showing against the shitty ass Chargers.

Remember when they had a running game?
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 10 2012,07:56
Yeah, it was earlier this season.

Injuries have torn them apart this year.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2012,07:56
QUOTE
In a nice bit of gallows humor, a reporter asked Whisenhunt who will start at quarterback next week against the Detroit Lions.  Replied the coach: "Do you play?"

Yep, that about sums it up.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 10 2012,08:44
< Ha! >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2012,09:04
The Ravens are 9-4 and fired their offensive coordinator.  Meanwhile, both Andy Reid, Rex Ryan, and Ken Whisenhunt still inexplicably have jobs.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2012,17:48
Wow.  Reportedly, Vince Young is bucking for the Cardinals QB job.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 10 2012,18:21
So... who do the Patriots beat in the Super Bowl?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2012,20:47
I actually have to go Redskins unless RG3's injury goes more than a week.  Maybe the Giants if they randomly get their shit together for the postseason, but Eli's inconsistent, their D is average, their running game is unproven.  The only questions for Washington: (1) Can they protect the QB and (2) Can their defense stop a high-powered offense?

I am amazed at how bad Matt Schaub looked tonight.  I expected at least 20 points a side.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 11 2012,12:13
< Bounty ruling >.

No suspensions.  Sounds like fines though, as three of them engaged in "conduct detrimental to the league" or something.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 11 2012,12:18
I don't buy the Patriots. They're smoke and mirrors.

I also think Houston is vastly overrated.

If Pittsburgh could stay healthy for 5 minutes your question would be: "Who does New England or Pittsburgh beat in the Super Bowl?"

That being said, I like the Packers to beat the Patriots.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 11 2012,12:23
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I don't buy the Patriots. They're smoke and mirrors.

Really?  472 point scored this season (99 more than the nearest team).  Two things concern me about the Pats ... their defense and the general shittiness of their division.

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I also think Houston is vastly overrated.

Overrated, but still a contender.

QUOTE
That being said, I like the Packers to beat the Patriots.

Not after watching Detroit shutdown their passing game this past weekend.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 11 2012,12:40
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Really?  472 point scored this season (99 more than the nearest team).  Two things concern me about the Pats ... their defense and the general shittiness of their division.


Really.

They've always been able to score in bunches. Big deal. They set scoring records when they went undefeated, and that didn't work out too well for them.

They haven't won a Super Bowl since they got cheating. And when they were cheating they were only beating teams by 3 points.

They play in the worst division in football. The other three teams would be cellar dwellers in any other division. There's a reason that every year they manage to have one of the easiest schedules.

That lack of true competition has meant their doom when they get into the playoffs. Teams there are wearing their big boy pants.

They get a LOT of home calls. More than any other team. Remember the tuck rule? How about the asshole being allowed to snow plow out a spot for their kicker on that game winning field goal?

And while we're on the subject, Tom Brady is possibly the most overrated player in history. Matt Cassell took that team to 11 wins, and that's when they had less talent. It's the fucking system. Hell, Belicheck has admitted that on multiple occasions.

Fuck New England.

QUOTE
Not after watching Detroit shutdown their passing game this past weekend.


Two things:
1. Detroit's secondary is miles better than New England's.
2. Detroit is one of the worst coached teams in the league. If Jeff Fisher had gone there instead of St. Louis, they'd be leading the division.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 11 2012,13:11
New England's secondary has given up about the same number of passing TDs, more INTs, and about as many sacks.  I don't know about miles.  They give up about 50-60 more yards per game.  If your opponents can't fucking capitalize on their yards, though, then it doesn't mean shit.  Houston may be overblown, but they're a notch or two above the Lions, and they just got manhandled.

3 Super Bowl rings and he's the most overrated player in history?  Did he personally piss in your cornflakes?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 11 2012,18:33
I am eminently pissed that Denarius Moore picked this particular part of the year to suck exceptionally.

I'm down to the likes of him, Rod Streater, Clay Harbor, Joique Bell, or Alex Green for a flex start.  I'm leaning Joique, mainly because Arizona's playing Detroit this week.  Just need to snag him off waivers.

EDIT: Damn, I think I win on match ups alone.  My opponent has...

Rodgers at Chicago
No-Show Moreno at Baltimore
Decker also at Baltimore
Stevie Johnson at Seattle
Kyle Rudolph at St. Louis
DeMarco Murray at Pittsburgh
Pats D at Frisco

His alternatives are Miles Austin playing the Steelers or, if he has balls of steel, David Wilson at Atlanta.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2012,09:41
Fucking opponent outbid me for Bell.  Streater it is.

As for QB ... Big Ben at Dallas or Russell Wilson at Buffalo?  Buffalo just gave up 200+ yards and a score to Sam "Sackee" Bradford.  Then again, Dallas gave Andy Dalton about the same.  The Bills have a far shittier secondary overall, though.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 12 2012,10:46
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New England's secondary has given up about the same number of passing TDs, more INTs, and about as many sacks.  I don't know about miles.  They give up about 50-60 more yards per game.  If your opponents can't fucking capitalize on their yards, though, then it doesn't mean shit.  Houston may be overblown, but they're a notch or two above the Lions, and they just got manhandled.


Compare their schedules and opponents. New England plays Buffalo, Miami, and the New York Jets twice each. This year they also got to play the Rams, Arizona, and Joe Flacco.

Smoke and mirrors.

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3 Super Bowl rings and he's the most overrated player in history?  Did he personally piss in your cornflakes?


Ok, my comment was harsh, especially regarding a guy in the same sports league as Michael Vick (the true most overrated player ever), however consider the following:
-Belicheck stating that the system makes the QB.
-This being proven by the horrific Matt Cassell going 11-5 there when Brady went down in the pre-season. Cassell lost his starting job in KC to Brady Quinn...let that sink in...
-The Dolphins, Bill, and Jets have all been abysmal during Brady's tenure. Yeah, the Jets made two runs, but they did it with Mark Sanchez. What's that mean? The Jets D beat Brady, Sanchez didn't beat anyone.
-Tom Brady only got to start because Drew Bledsoe got hurt.
-Brady won his three rings when the Patriots were cheating. He hasn't won shit since they got caught.
-The "Tuck Rule" game resulted in one of those rings.
-Put Tom Brady on another team with a different offensive system, and does he do as well? Hard to say. Could he do what Peyton did in Indy? I doubt it.
-I know this is minor, but they have one of the best home field advantages in all of sports due to the weather.

Tom Brady is a good quarterback. I would never suggest otherwise. However, I think he gets too much praise.

As for it being personal, fuck yes it is... First of all, he's a Michigan grad, so he's a douchebag. Second, they cheated, literally, the Steelers out of two more Super Bowl appearances.

As for Ben or Wilson, I think you're going to be fine either way. Just watch the weather if they're in Buffalo...

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2012,11:08
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This year they also got to play the Rams...

The Rams do not have a bullshit defense.  They just stuffed Buffalo to less than 50% of their home points average this past week.  The reason St. Louis might have a better than .500 season ain't the fucking offense.

QUOTE
Cassell lost his starting job in KC to Brady Quinn

Shittier o-line, shittier passer protection, shittier WRs (maybe Bowe doesn't totally suck, but that's it), shittier TEs, shittier run game (Jamaal Charles is overrated as hell).  Cassell also was a good QB for about 1.5 seasons.  He's got some talent, but he ain't a Brady or (Peyton) Manning, or Aaron Rodgers.

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Tom Brady only got to start because Drew Bledsoe got hurt

Kurt Warner only got to start because Trent Greene got hurt.  Your point?  How many MVPs did he win?  How many yards did he pass for with feet made of solid concrete and the fugly pass protection in Arizona and the post-Super Bowl Rams?

QUOTE
Brady won his three rings when the Patriots were cheating. He hasn't won shit since they got caught.

Only one other team in NFL history went 3 out of 4 years with a Super Bowl win.  I'll chalk it up to statistics and the fact that players retire, or get signed or traded away.

Did I hear the commentator (can't remember if it's Gruden or Bradshaw) sucking his dick every time he opened his mouth?  Good Christ, yes.  I suppose the aura that second-coming aura settled around Brett Favre has truly been passed on to another QB.  If history is any guide, he'll be forcing passes into triple coverage in a couple years.  If he's got half a brain he'll retire in a couple years or immediately after the next championship ring.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 12 2012,11:41
QUOTE
The Rams do not have a bullshit defense.


Of the 9 games I mentioned, you highlighted a sub-.500 team as not being "easy". To top it off, you qualified it with their performance against Ryan Fitzpatrick.

I haven't seen a display like that since the Browns needed 8 turnovers and two terrible turnover calls, at home, to beat a 38 year old backup...by 6 points...

QUOTE
Shittier o-line, shittier passer protection, shittier WRs (maybe Bowe doesn't totally suck, but that's it), shittier TEs, shittier run game (Jamaal Charles is overrated as hell).


I disagree. The o-line in NE at the time was awesome at pass protection, but KC's current line isn't the worst in the league. It's working for Quinn...

Also, at that time, NE's receivers were terrible. Brady has more targets now than he ever did before.

And Charles isn't overrated. He's on the second worst team in the NFL, and still putting up good stats.

QUOTE
Kurt Warner only got to start because Trent Greene got hurt.  Your point?  How many MVPs did he win?  How many yards did he pass for with feet made of solid concrete and the fugly pass protection in Arizona and the post-Super Bowl Rams?


The point is he wasn't blowing people away with his skills or work ethic. He isn't Peyton or Luck.

QUOTE
Only one other team in NFL history went 3 out of 4 years with a Super Bowl win.


Don't forget the mention the cheating!

QUOTE
Did I hear the commentator (can't remember if it's Gruden or Bradshaw) sucking his dick every time he opened his mouth?  Good Christ, yes.  I suppose the aura that second-coming aura settled around Brett Favre has truly been passed on to another QB.  If history is any guide, he'll be forcing passes into triple coverage in a couple years.  If he's got half a brain he'll retire in a couple years or immediately after the next championship ring.


Brady is currently the QB most announcers masturbate to, yes. His retirement won't come after throwing into triple coverage, he's not a gunslinger. His retirement will be a race between him and Belicheck before the smoke drifts away and all the mirrors are broken. I wouldn't be surprised to see them both retire at the same time.

Again, not saying the guy isn't good. You have to be amazing to even be in the NFL, let alone start, and win Super Bowls.

I'm just saying that New England, Belicheck, and Brady get odd passes from the MSM. Everyone tries to pretend Belicheck wasn't behind one of the biggest scandals in modern sports, and they try to pretend that some (not going to say "a lot" just to make this debate resolve quicker) of Brady's success comes from the game plan, and not so much because of his own skills.

Right guy, right place, right time.

Could Brady go to Indy and run the offense like Peyton did? No.

Could Brady have won 2 Super Bowls, and appeared in a 3rd in Pittsburgh where the offensive line sometimes doesn't exist? No.

I do think he would have had success in New Orleans, Atlanta, Houston, Green Bay, etc., but I also think other QBs could have been put into his situation and done as good or perhaps better.

Thus, why I think he's a bit overrated. And I shouldn't just pick on him, as I think a lot of players get fame based on circumstance rather than just their own skill level.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2012,12:23
Fucking amazing.  I'm in line to lose my playoff game to a fucker who has outscored me precisely two weeks this entire season ... (i) the only regular season game I played and (ii) today.

Seriously, wtf?  This is mainly from Joe Flacco killing Ray Rice.  Get that loser the fuck out of there.

EDIT: Today is also a good example of Eli Manning and why he sucks.  He's always going to be "good enough" but never great.  His elderly brother is routing a division-leading team and he is being routed by a division-leading team.  I've got no idea how that fucker ever won a Super Bowl.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 16 2012,12:56
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I'm in line to lose my playoff game to a fucker whose outscored precisely two weeks this entire season ... (i) the only regular season game I played and (ii) today.


Huh?

QUOTE
This is mainly from Joe Flacco killing Ray Rice.  Get that loser the fuck out of there.


I hope Baltimore hangs onto Flacco forever.

QUOTE
EDIT: Today is also a good example of Eli Manning and why he sucks.  He's always going to be "good enough" but never great.  His elderly brother is routing a division-leading team and he is being routed by a division-leading team.  I've got no idea how that fucker ever won a Super Bowl.


Because he played Brady twice and AFTER the Patriots were caught cheating.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 16 2012,13:23
Ugh, I had Rice and Eli today.  

Also had Morris and Johnson, so that helped.

Too bad Hankerson lives on my bench.

Oh well... it's just fantasy... GO REDSKINS!

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2012,13:30
QUOTE
Huh?

Fixed.  I was half paying attention when I typed that, pissed after Eric Decker hauled in a 50+ yard score.  That fucker may kill me.

I've got an outside chance if Lynch, Welker, Crabtree, and Big Ben pick up the slack.  I expect next to nothing from my flex.  Opponent didn't score handily, but he's in line for 120-130 points if things keep going his way.

In other news, the QB I didn't start already has 2 rushing TDs in the first quarter.  Fuck me sideways.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 16 2012,13:37
I need Miles Austin to not get outscored by Cam Newton + CJ Spiller + Vernon Davis by 18 or more.

Go Austin and the Steelers :)

Giants 8-6
Redskins 8-6 (now leading the division, I believe)
Viking 8-6
Bears 8-6

Damn

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2012,13:45
I'm not out of it, but I can't have any big name player besides Rice have a shitty game for the rest of the day.

EDIT: Oh my fucking god, I should have played Wilson.  Not doing it is contributing to me dying.  Steve Johnson doing something in Buffalo doesn't help either.  Fuck me.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 17 2012,07:27
QUOTE
So... who do the Patriots beat in the Super Bowl?


< They won't beat the 49ers. >

Also, at this point, I'm hoping the Steelers miss out on the playoffs. They're just too banged up to make a deep run, and we could use a better draft pick.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2012,07:43
So, I'm fucked in both my leagues.

Dudes I'm thinking of keeping next year...
Russell Wilson ... dirt cheap
Marshawn Lynch ... cheap
Michael Crabtree ... cheap

Welker (maybe ... trade bait, though ... inconsistent in the fantasy postseason the past few years)
OR
Ray Rice (outside chance ... expensive trade bait ... I'm done with the Ravens offense for a bit ... unless JOE FUCKING FLACCO isn't the starting QB)

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2012,08:32
Well, I lost.  It's a keeper league, so we'll see what next year brings.

Redskins just need to beat the Eagles and the Cowboys, and WE HOST A FUCKING PLAYOFF GAME!  First time since I can't remember.

The only question then is: Go to the game?  Or sell the tickets?

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 17 2012,10:07
Go.

QUOTE
WE HOST A FUCKING PLAYOFF GAME!  First time since I can't remember.


Memories > money.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2012,10:32
Yeah, I'm 60 (go) /40 (no go)... it would be the first playoff ever that I've gone too, and I bet it would be a ton of fun.  But it's also 5 hours away each direction, and I bet the tix would get $400 each.

I guess I shouldn't think too much about it until 2 weeks from now :)

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2012,10:34
Oh man... been waiting for this email for years
QUOTE
Dear Redskins Season Ticket Holder,
The Redskins have an opportunity to host a Wild Card Playoff game on January 5th or 6th. In appreciation to our loyal season ticket holders, you have the first opportunity to secure seats for the Wild Card Game.
You will receive via US Mail your 2012 Playoff Invoice. With the Pay-When-We-Are-In program you can reserve your seats for the Wild Card Game, but your credit card will not be charged until it is certain the Redskins are hosting the game. Reserve your playoff tickets online now by logging into < www.Redskins.com/MyAccount > using your Redskins Account ID and PIN (Password). The deadline to reserve your playoff tickets is Thursday, December 27, 2012.
Ticket Delivery: After enrollment in the Pay-When-We-Are-In program or full payment for your playoff invoice before the deadline, you must login to < www.Redskins.com/MyAccount, > print or forward your tickets, and bring them with you to the game. Online tickets will be available after December 27.
Parking: To purchase parking for the playoff game, you will need to visit < www.RedskinsParking.com > to purchase parking through Click-and-Park (a third party provider). You must print your permit at home; no hard passes will be delivered.
If you want to pay by check or for more information, please visit < www.Redskins.com/Playoffs. > You can also contact the Redskins Ticket Office at 301-276-6050 or reach us by email at tickets@redskins.com.
Thank you and Hail to the Redskins!

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2012,10:34
Heh, the site is down cuz too many people.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2012,11:01

(Leisher @ Dec. 17 2012,12:07)
QUOTE
Go.

QUOTE
WE HOST A FUCKING PLAYOFF GAME!  First time since I can't remember.


Memories > money.

I'd normally say sell, but when's the next time the Redskins are going to be in the postseason with anything resembling a chance.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2012,11:18
Next year?:)
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2012,14:37
My brother and I split 4 seats. Our compromise: If there's a game, we go to the game, and sell the other 2 tickets.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 18 2012,07:19
Sanchez: 13/28 for 131, 1 TD, 4 INT, plus a fumble.  How fucking bad does he have to play before you pull him?


Posted by Leisher on Dec. 18 2012,07:26
He hits their salary cap for $17 million next year whether he's on or off the team.

Expect them to continue starting him praying that he turns a corner and starts playing well.

Meanwhile, they traded for Tebow, didn't use him, didn't trade him away when there were teams asking, and they'll lose him for nothing in the offseason to Jacksonville.

The people running that team are clueless buffoons.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 18 2012,08:24
Run the team into the ground, get a new coach, and some better draft picks, maybe wait for the next RG3 / Andrew Luck
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 18 2012,08:31
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He hits their salary cap for $17 million next year whether he's on or off the team.

If he costs you just as much not being there, then fucking toss him and open up a space for someone else with potential.

QUOTE
Expect them to continue starting him praying that he turns a corner and starts playing well.

Not a fucking chance.  Have you seen him this season?  Goddamn, even Tebow usually gives you at least one decent quarter for every three he sucks.  Sanchez is sucking every quarter, every game.  He isn't turning shit, he's never going to win.  I'd rather have Archie Manning at QB.  Troy Aikman is currently a better QB than Sanchez.  Brett Favre is currently a better QB than Sanchez.

QUOTE
and they'll lose him for nothing in the offseason to Jacksonville

Speaking of teams that are fucked.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 18 2012,09:09
Oooo, maybe they'll trade for Cousins and we'll get some draft picks back :)
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 18 2012,10:21
< Guns were totally Jovan Belcher's only problem >.  Except the chick he was fucking behind his baby mama's back and temper control issues around her.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 18 2012,12:17
The Jets have announced McElroy as the starter.  I can only assume they traded and drew up a contract for Tebow on a drunken bet.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 19 2012,15:04
< Big Ben: sorry for saying my coaches suck >.  Even though getting beat by Dallas last week means that, yes, their play calling sucks.


Posted by Leisher on Dec. 20 2012,08:10
Haley improved the run game, but I've been quite unimpressed with his approach to the passing game.

Meanwhile, Bruce Arians has made Andrew Luck into a pro bowler.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2012,08:22
QUOTE
Haley improved the run game, but I've been quite unimpressed with his approach to the passing game.

If Pittsburgh had a RB somewhere, that'd be awesome.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 20 2012,09:04
I would argue that they have 4 good ones.

Rainey is the quick back that catches passes.

Redman is Jerome Bettis without the hands and can block.

Dwyer is Bettis light and can block.

Mendenhall is the closest to a complete package, but he's insane, fumbles a lot, and gets hurt too much.

Their problem is that they need someone to be really consistent.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2012,09:05
They've all sucked this season.  Sucked hard.  If you took the good parts of all four of them, you might have a serviceable player.

In other news, the Jets are allegedly looking to trade Dirty Sanchez.  The only question becomes if they CFL player they get in exchange can play at NFL levels.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 20 2012,09:39
No they haven't.

They've all shown flashes of brilliance, but all have also been hurt for more than one or two games and all have fumbled more than we'd like.

They've far from sucked though.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2012,09:50
The Steelers running game has worse rushing yards than every NFL team except the Chargers, Falcons, Raiders, Jaguards, Cowboys, Cardinals.  These are not peers you want.  Only the Packers, Jags, Chargers, Rams, and Raiders have fewer rushing TDs.  Being in the bottom 15% in those two categories means suckage.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 20 2012,11:16
Not really. Stats don't always tell the whole tale.

The Steelers had a three game stretch where teams focused on stopping the run.

They have one of the league's best QBs, and thus, score a lot through the air.

Their line isn't just one of the league's worst, it's also one of the heaviest hit with injuries.

This is their first year with a new offensive coordinator, so the whole offense has learned a new scheme, and a new guy is calling plays.

Every RB has been hurt throughout the season and missed games so it's been hard to get consistency.

But yeah, it's all the RBs fault and they suck.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2012,11:52
Why their running game hasn't been performing isn't the issue.  The issue is that it hasn't produced like it did in previous years, and they don't have a clear starter; they've got parts of a starter in each member of their RB committee.  It'd be nice if they had one dude that could catch passes and be a north-south type bloke while another could be the blocker/snowplow back.  A 2-headed RB group might work.  The foursome ain't doing it, ask New Orleans, a team which also has an average rush yards and rush TDs per game somewhere in the neighbourhood of the Steelers.  If they could combine Sproles and Ivory, then make another RB out of Ingram and Pierre Thomas, they'd have something.

I'm also not calling Big Ben one of the league's best QBs.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 20 2012,13:24
QUOTE
Why their running game hasn't been performing isn't the issue.  The issue is that it hasn't produced like it did in previous years, and they don't have a clear starter; they've got parts of a starter in each member of their RB committee.  It'd be nice if they had one dude that could catch passes and be a north-south type bloke while another could be the blocker/snowplow back.  A 2-headed RB group might work.  The foursome ain't doing it, ask New Orleans, a team which also has an average rush yards and rush TDs per game somewhere in the neighbourhood of the Steelers.  If they could combine Sproles and Ivory, then make another RB out of Ingram and Pierre Thomas, they'd have something.


You've obviously watched every Steelers game this year and follow the team intensely.

We agree to disagree.

QUOTE
I'm also not calling Big Ben one of the league's best QBs.


In the lead for the league MVP before going down to injury this year. Yeah, he sucks!

I pray Tebow's available this offseason because we can't all start Ponder.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2012,13:31
"not the best" != "sucks."

For the record, given the chance, I'd start Tebow over Ponder.  Fuck Ponder.  Tebow's got a better chance of improving.  Big Ben was also in the lead before AP went on a tear.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 20 2012,13:36
QUOTE
"not the best" != "sucks."


Quite honestly, based on your level of negativity towards all things, I suppose saying something sucks is polite praise.

QUOTE
Big Ben was also in the lead before AP went on a tear.


AP went on a tear? Has anyone else noticed?

I'm teasing, but not. Seriously, his season might be the most unreported thing of consequence that's occurring this season. I've seen Cam Newton's asshole behavior covered a LOT more. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've only seen AP's season discussed once. (Keep in mind that I don't live in Minnesota.)

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2012,13:38
I've seen AP discussed A LOT (not as much as RG3, but c'mon - That dude is special), especially the past two weeks.  If he breaks the record, it'll be all over the place.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2012,13:38

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2012,14:52)
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I'm also not calling Big Ben one of the league's best QBs.

OK, who are the top 10 QBs in the league, ranked?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2012,16:39

(TheCatt @ Dec. 20 2012,15:38)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2012,14:52)
QUOTE
I'm also not calling Big Ben one of the league's best QBs.

OK, who are the top 10 QBs in the league, ranked?

According to me or the stats?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2012,16:46

(TheCatt @ Dec. 20 2012,15:38)
QUOTE
I've seen AP discussed A LOT (not as much as RG3, but c'mon - That dude is special), especially the past two weeks.  If he breaks the record, it'll be all over the place.

I've been hearing about him a shitload.  Then again, considering where I live, it's not shocking.  But I'm not hearing about it on the regional shows or anything, it's all national broadcast shit.  Fuck, considering the crap run Ds he's got to go (@Houston, GB), he's got a decent shot.  AP and his blockers aren't part of the offense; they are the fucking offense.  Their defense also got rung for 22 points by St. Louis.  St. Fucking. Louis.  Hell, without the 200+ rushing yards knocking up the T.O.P. for the Vikes, that easily could've been 25-30.  If the clock kept running on incomplete passes, Minnesota would be leading the division by now.

I'd bet everything I have that if the Vikings started Joe Webb, they'd have a shot at doing something interesting next year.  He's not that good, but he's a damn sight better than Mr. Samantha Steele.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2012,16:48
According to you.  You said Ben wasnt among best, so who is?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2012,17:02
I'll call "best" as my top three (roughly the top 10%), however you define it is your thing.  Big Ben will be on the top ten.

Right now (and my rankings change as I see performances, stats, and games) ...

1 Brady
2 Peyton
3 RG3
4 Brees
5 Rodgers
6 Cam
7 Big Ben
8 Matt Ryan (mainly due to numbers)
9 Luck
10 Russell Wilson (dude seems for real)

Extra special losers I've heard called "elite" left off the list: Eli Manning, Tony Romo

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 23 2012,13:01
I cant see how Cam could be a top 10 QB.  Top 15, probably.  I'd rather have Romo or Schaub than Cam.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 23 2012,13:02
Beat the Cowboys - Win the Division!

I think we otherwise need: Giants, Vikings, and Bears to lose at least once to make the wild card.

(Assuming Cowboys lose)

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 23 2012,15:05
I have 3 QBs on my fantasy team:
Eli Manning
Schaub
Foles

So far they have 4, 7, and 17 points respectively.  Wtf Eli?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 24 2012,12:44
QUOTE
I cant see how Cam could be a top 10 QB.  Top 15, probably.  I'd rather have Romo or Schaub than Cam.

Schaub's an average QB on a run-heavy team.  He's always just an Andre Johnson injury away from being worthless.  Romo is a dude that's had years to prove himself and has consistently failed.  Cam's certainly more mobile and I think his passing game is only going to improve.  I can't say the same for Tony or Matt.  I'll also say Eli's in the same category as Romo.  Foles will get better in a couple years, maybe.  If his team can keep from getting injured, he'll probably be ok.

For the first time ever, I think, I'm going to keep a QB in my league.  Keeping Lynch, Crabtree, Welker, and Russell Wilson.

In other news, let's talk about SF and their QB situation.  I'm still trying to figure out why Colin's starting.  Alex gets you a winning record, he's not screwing up especially badly, then he gets concussed and Kaepernick takes over.  Why?

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 30 2012,20:40
WWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 02 2013,09:41
Minnesota Vikings: < Delusional and embracing mediocrity >.  Oh well, nice chance we had at getting a real offense.  Were I AP, I'd be seeking a trade yesterday.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 02 2013,09:51
Hmmm, Ponder isn't that awful.  What do you think your choices are?
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 02 2013,10:22

(TheCatt @ Jan. 02 2013,11:51)
QUOTE
Hmmm, Ponder isn't that awful.  What do you think your choices are?

Ponder fucking blows.  Joe Webb (the backup or 3rd-stringer) is worth more of a look.  He's a future Dirty Sanchez.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 02 2013,11:38
Conan O'Brien just tweeted:
QUOTE
The New York Jets just fired their general manager. There, all fixed.


That made me laugh.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 02 2013,15:43
Apparently in Malcolm's world, your top 5 or suck ass.

< Ponder is mediocre. >

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 02 2013,16:10
Joe Webb passes and runs better than Mr. Samantha Steele.  Whether Ponder's shitty or mediocre, his backup's still got far more promise and potential.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 02 2013,17:54

(Malcolm @ Jan. 02 2013,19:10)
QUOTE
Joe Webb passes and runs better than Mr. Samantha Steele.  Whether Ponder's shitty or mediocre, his backup's still got far more promise and potential.

Im guessing the coaches, who see a lot more of these players than you, disagree.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 02 2013,18:45
How fantastic would it be to hear the rant if the Vikings traded Ponder for Tebow?

I mean, by Malcolm's logic, they could since he'd want them to start Webb.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 02 2013,21:15
I have yet to see Tebow truly fuck up for a whole season, although I've no doubt he could and will.  Three out of every four quarters he played, while ultimately being successful, looked awful.  I've yet to see definitive proof.  Ponder just fucked up a season.  The Vikings aren't getting Tebow.  I hear he's all but sealed up for Jacksonville.

QUOTE
Im guessing the coaches, who see a lot more of these players than you, disagree.

They're free to be wrong if they want to.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2013,06:02
Actually, Tebow has a year left, but they're dumping him. So if they wanted to, the Vikings could trade for him...

Saw an interesting article on him yesterday that says most scouts think he could become a star if he'd just switch positions. Why the Jets didn't use him like the Steelers used Kordell Stewart I'll never understand. They wasted  third round pick on a guy who saw the field less than 50 plays this year. No wonder the GM was fired.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2013,07:19
I know Tebow's entertaining offers from everywhere, but it's heavily rumoured he's going to Jacksonville.  The Vikings aren't trading for him.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2013,08:04
You realize I'm just teasing you right? I know there's no way the Vikings ever go after Tebow, especially considering their own QB situation. It'd just make it worse for no reason.

However, as I pointed out earlier, it be entertaining as fuck to watch you meltdown if they did trade for him.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2013,09:37
Whatever.  I survived the Favre debacle.  Tebow ain't got shit on that.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2013,09:53
Favre debacle?

He's the best QB Minnesota has had since Tarkington.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2013,09:57
That's a bit of a stretch.  Warren Moon had his day and Culpepper didn't suck for at least a couple seasons.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2013,10:04
How many NFC title games did they take you to?

I love Moon, but his best years were in Houston. Favre still had one great year left for you guys.

I never bought Culpepper. I think his receivers made him better than he was.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2013,10:16
Culpepper's career was dead when his knee gave out.  That was it.  Without his mobility, he's just a goddamn statue.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2013,11:26
In my $100 auction league, we draft but get to keep up to 4 players from the previous year.  Just got my prices.

Here's everyone worth mentioning, * means I'm definitely keeping them:

Ben Roethlisberger - $5: No.  Russell Wilson is $2.
*Marshawn Lynch - $6: So goddamn cheap, only 6 sub-100 yard games this year.  Hit up 49ers D for 100+ yards and a TD.  Twice.
Ray Rice - $28: No.  Joe Flacco would need to be benched.
Michael Crabtree - $17: Wondering how he got this expensive.  Either way, not a bad deal.  I'm 75% yes.
Wes Welker - $14: Thinking his ceiling is WR2.  That's awfully expensive for a WR2/Flex, and his numbers keep getting shittier as the TEs and other WRs (Lloyd and Edelman) eat into his targets and TDs.  75% no.
Owen Daniels - $7: Too much cash for inconsistent performance.
*Russell Wilson - $2: I'll buy in for $2.
Rashard Mendenhall - $1: Unless he solidifies his job in the off-season, no.

Thoughts?



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2013,15:57
QUOTE
Joe Webb passes and runs better than Mr. Samantha Steele.  Whether Ponder's shitty or mediocre, his backup's still got far more promise and potential.

< Fate decides Malcolm's theory gets a chance >.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 05 2013,17:03
Be careful what you wish for...
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2013,18:17
Christ, he looks pathetic.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 05 2013,19:05
Malcolm, NFL talent scout
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2013,19:30
I was half right, he throws just as badly as Ponder.  Still runs better.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 05 2013,19:42
Ponder >> Webb
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 05 2013,19:44
Minnesota Vikings Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int Rating
Joe Webb(notes) 7 23 61 30.4 2.7 3 23 0 1 21.8
Christian Ponder(notes) 16 28 234 57.1 8.4 1 7 3 0 120.2
Christian Ponder(notes) 12 25 119 48.0 4.8 0 0 1 2 41.9

All 3 games against the Packers.  I'm not saying Ponder's a super star, but he's decent.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2013,09:28
Of those three, maybe one's a respectable stat line.  I still don't see Ponder improving.  One 300+ yard game the entire season, nine goddamned sub 200-yard games, five coming after the week 11 bye.   He's been shit since then: just as many turnovers as passing TDs (6), one 200+ yard game (week 17), one multi-passing TD game (week 17).  For the first six weeks, I'll give him "decent."  For the remaining ones, "suck."  Toss them both, get someone else.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2013,09:38
Right, I agree with you that you'll need someone else if you want a top 10 QB.  Who the hell that would be, I have no idea, but it's certainly not Webb.  Maybe suck two years from now and try to get Johnny Manziel.

Or trade for Cousins :)



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2013,09:55
Fuck, I'll take Alex Smith over Ponder or Webb now.  I don't think Al's doing much nowadays.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2013,11:40

(Malcolm @ Jan. 02 2015,13:22)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Jan. 02 2015,11:51)
QUOTE
Hmmm, Smith isn't that awful.  What do you think your choices are?

Alex Smith fucking blows.  Joe Blow (the backup or 3rd-stringer) is worth more of a look.  He's a future Dirty Sanchez.

Post from the future.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2013,16:16
I see RG3's doing his best Joe Webb impersonation.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2013,16:35
No need to get personal.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 07 2013,05:48
RG3 was pretty hobbled and still looked better than Webb.
Posted by Troy on Jan. 07 2013,06:28

(Leisher @ Jan. 07 2013,05:48)
QUOTE
RG3 was pretty hobbled and still looked better than Webb.

Until he died.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 07 2013,07:04

(Leisher @ Jan. 07 2013,07:48)
QUOTE
RG3 was pretty hobbled and still looked better than Webb.

He traded 100 yards for a TD.  Other than that, his stat line looks goddamned near the same as Webb.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 07 2013,11:49

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2013,09:56
< Rex Ryan: It's all about me >.

QUOTE
"I don't think I've done as good a job of implementing who I am throughout this team," Ryan said.

Surprised there's space in the locker room, what with the coach's ego and all getting in the way.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 08 2013,10:56
He's going to make them all have foot fetishes?

Speaking of football, did anyone watch the massacre last night? Did anyone NOT see that coming?

Notre Dame was simply a lucky team this year. They beat Michigan because Denard Robinson was still the starting quarterback, and turned the ball over 5 times in the first half. 3 of them in the red zone. Notre Dame couldn't beat Michigan right now.

They simply caught a lot of teams on down years, like Michigan State, Michigan, USC, Oklahoma, etc.

I honestly don't know how they beat Stanford.

That's one big reason I didn't like them...besides them being Notre Dame...people tried to compare them to the 2002 Ohio State Buckeyes, and that is bullshit. The 2002 Buckeyes had a terrible offense that year, but their defense was the best in ALL categories. Nobody scored on them. They won games despite their offense. They won that championship.

Everyone scored on this year's Irish team. They didn't win games.

They had no business playing Alabama.

Questions from this college season:
1. So does Saban go pro? What does he have left to prove in college? Cleveland will give him whatever he wants and he's buddies with their GM... Plus, the guy is 61. Time to make a decision.
2. Does the NCAA finally pull the trigger on their investigations into Miami, Oregon, Auburn, Boise State, USC, and other schools or are they waiting until the Penn State penalty gets sued away or disappears from the public's memory? Why'd it take mere months to punish OSU for players selling THEIR OWN PROPERTY, while all these other schools have been caught red handed paying players or "agents", etc. and nothing has been done, in some cases for well over a year?
3. Does the NCAA finally tell the SEC that oversigning hurts kids worse than anything the schools in #2 have done, and they can no longer do it? This would mean a powerful tool for LSU and Alabama, that most other schools in the country refuse to do (It's a rule in the Big 10.), would be gone.

Odds to win 2013 BCS: Bama 3-1; Ore 8-1; LSU, OhSt 10-1; TAMU 14-1; UF, FSU 15-1; ND, UL, Clem 20-1; OU, Mia 25-1

P.S. If you wanted Te'o on your pro team, it just became a whole lot easier.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 08 2013,16:49
It was DISGUSTING that they were #1 in the nation in anyone's rankings.  Pitt by 3 in OT? SERIOUSLY?  At least Alabama played some real times.  First half was pretty much exactly what I was expecting.

Bama is just dominant.  Saban finally got to a program that had enough prestige (sorry MSU) to match his skills, and once he could recruit the best in the nation, game over.  At this point: Yeah, he's got nothing to prove, cept maybe "Yes, I am the best ever"... but I dunno, maybe that's more fun than going pro and losing.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Jan. 08 2013,17:13
ND didn't win their games, the other teams lost them.  ND just got super super lucky all season by playing teams on their bad weeks.  They were 'beating' overrated teams which caused them to be overrated.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2013,13:38
< Jets owner also insane >:
QUOTE
Ryan met no such fate (like getting fired or quitting). "No," (Jets owner Woody) Johnson said, "I never considered that because my confidence in him as a coach obviously gives me the confidence to keep him as a coach."
...
"I think Rex Ryan is perfect for the New York Jets."

Did the spirit of Al Davis possess a couple people after he died?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2013,09:15
< Tebow not going to Jaguars >.  While it's hard to say with 100% certainty he's not ever going to get a starting QB job, it's starting to look that way.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2013,09:42
Looks like you can actually motivate Flacco not to suck.  If only he didn't slack off so goddamned much in the regular season.

Green Bay finally found a team that can outscore them.  Course, if their defense didn't phone it in, they might have had a chance.  A running game would help, too.  Come to think of it, Green Bay is an Aaron Rodgers concussion away from being the next Philadelphia Eagles.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 13 2013,10:13
Yeah, GB's walking a fine line, and I think it's catching up to them.

I could play Safety for Denver's prevent D, btw.  I was watching that, and just. could. not. believe it.  Wow.  What a fuck up.

Go Falcons/Texans.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2013,11:02
Denver: 40 rushing attempts spread over 3 RBs with roughly a 2:1:1 ratio.  115 rushing plus six catches for 48 yards.  Peyton has a decent stat line (290 + 3 TDs) with roughly a 67% completion score over 43 attempts.  Except those two picks, not bad.

Baltimore: 35 rushing attempts from 2 RBs, 30 of them from Ray Rice.  145 rushing plus a score.  No catches, though, which is shocking as hell for Ray Rice.  Flacco, ~50% completion for 40 more yards with ~20% fewer attempts and gets just as many TDs.  He does not throw one pick, which is what may have saved Baltimore.

Conclusions:

1) Denver's secondary wasn't that bad this season.  However, they did give up the big play a bit too much and you'll notice Flacco threw a couple long TDs in addition to Ray Rice ripping a 30+ yard run.

2) The sum of 3 mediocre RBs still doesn't add up to what 1 good RB can do.  "Keeping the position fresh," is another way of saying, "We really need the other team's defense to be way, way more tired than our tailback before we hope to achieve success."

3) Turnovers kill, do not take stupid chances while throwing.  Both Baltimore and Denver lost a fumble.  Flacco threw zero INTs.  Peyton threw 2, one got returned for a score.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2013,11:07
QUOTE
Go Falcons/Texans.

I'd like seeing the Texans go against the Ravens.  I'm pulling for Seattle mainly because I'd like to see them go against Frisco.  I'm pretty certain the 49ers would stomp the Falcons right now.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 14 2013,09:29
From Bill Simmons' latest column:
QUOTE
By the way, the big winner of that Vikings-Packers game was Christian Ponder — he would have almost definitely stunk in that game, followed by a spring and summer of "Are the Vikings wasting Peterson's prime with Ponder?" questions. Instead, Vikings fans are saying things like, "I can't believe how much we missed Ponder!"

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2013,10:10
Does he look better compared to Webb's shit-tacular performance?  Yeah.  Doesn't change the fact that a couple years from now, he'll be gone.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2013,10:11
NE and Frisco or NE and Atlanta?
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 14 2013,10:42
NE/Frisco.  Gotta imagine the odds are like, uh, 1:3 or something.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 15 2013,04:05
< Baltimore fan. >

That's all that needs to be said.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 16 2013,12:26

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2013,14:45
Frisco's secondary is getting incessantly picked on by the same four dudes.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2013,18:43
Baltimore and Frisco?
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 20 2013,18:48
Two of the biggest assholes in the NFL coaching against each other, and they happen to be brothers.

Meanwhile, The Patriots' streak of no Super Bowl victories since they were caught cheating continues...

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 20 2013,18:54
SUCK IT NEW ENGLAND!

Fan of the Harbaughs, go 49ers.  Honestly dont care too much who wins.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 20 2013,19:09
Belicheck declined to be interviewed following the game. What a piece of shit.

Shannon Sharpe just called him out on it too. Said he's a poor sport and does this whenever he loses.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 21 2013,06:51


Way to put the cup back instead of throwing it out.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 21 2013,10:28
< Suggs rips the Pats. >

He and I agree on #12 being overrated.

Posted by WSGrundy on Jan. 21 2013,13:32
Shannon Sharpe calling someone classless is interesting but beyond that what exactly is the losing coach of any team suppose to do or say?

I don't think Belichick would be a very fun person to be around by any stretch of the imagination so what really did we miss out on?

"Losing is never fun, I tip my cap to them."

"They made more plays."

"Take a few days off and then start planning for next year."

"Take it one game at a time and give 110%."

What has ever been learned from a half time or post game interview? Other than John McKay being asked what he thought of his teams execution and him replying "I'm all for it."

If I spent all year working towards something and then came up just short I think think my response to Erin Andrews(or whatever other pointless reporter was there) stupid questions would be to fuck off.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 22 2013,12:56
< Wes Welker's wife on Ray Lewis >:
QUOTE
"Proud of my husband and the Pats. By the way, if anyone is bored, please go to Ray Lewis' Wikipedia page. 6 kids 4 wives. Acquitted for murder. Paid a family off. Yay. What a hall of fame player! A true role model!"


Classless. Disrespectful. Reeks of poor sportsmanship. Ray's legacy on the field can't and shouldn't be questioned by anyone.

But is there a good point in there? After all, without sports Ray Lewis does what with his life? On the same note, without Notre Dame's fluke run to the title last year, isn't Brian Kelly still that coach who got a kid killed?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 22 2013,13:23
That's someone making idiotic statements out of frustration.  The better athlete is sometimes a bigger asshole.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 22 2013,13:39
There's a difference between asshole and killing someone.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 22 2013,13:59
The courts acquitted him.  Meanwhile < other players > actually kill people and don't get hammered as badly.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 22 2013,18:21
QUOTE
The courts acquitted him.


No they didn't. He made a deal to testify against the other two, and then he did, in fact, pay off the families of the victims.

Not saying he murdered someone, but we don't know the truth of that night. Nor do we know where the white suit he wore that night went.

Look, I don't mind Lewis. He's made it very clear to the league, including rookies, that he is ALWAYS available if they need someone to talk to. Hell, he has had conversations with Steelers, including Big Ben, to help them through tough times.

I see a guy who was involved in two murders, in some way, who reversed the course of his life on the spot. Is the world better because of his experience? Maybe. Seriously. Who knows who else he has helped. Who knows what other tragedies were avoided because he grew up really fast one evening.

I just find Welkers' wife's comments to have some truth to them. Sometimes we forgive because of celebrity.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 22 2013,18:53
QUOTE
Sometimes we forgive because of celebrity.

< Rehab is celebrity, and vice versa >.  Does it help he's a famous football player?  Yeah.  But how many people have had best sellers on their own "overcoming adversity" schtick?  The public, unless you do something taboo (Sandusky-esque), is apt to forgive because then it means all the times they fuck up, they believe they've got company and the potential to unfuck things.

EDIT: In retrospect, the Ravens should've hired a dude to stand on the sidelines, wear a sign that says "Tape this", and just flip off NE the entire night.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 23 2013,05:57
A lot of folks have forgiven Polanski for raping a child. Why? Because he made some movies? Whoopie! The standing ovation he was given at the Oscars a few years back was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen.

Is Ray Lewis a great player? Yes.
Is he a role model on the field? Yes.
Is he a role model off the field? Probably not.

Mrs. Welker's post was all sour grapes, but as I said, it had some truth to it.

And the Ravens aren't the team who should be doing the middle finger thing at the Patriots. The Steelers should be that team. The Patriots, literally, cheated the Steelers out of the Super Bowl a few times during Spygate.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 23 2013,08:04
< JaMarcus Russell's sanity lessens further >.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 23 2013,09:43
QUOTE
People are always saying that I'm a bust. I want show them I'm not. I'm committed to this now

5 years too late.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 23 2013,09:59
"I miss having money"

Hate that dude.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 23 2013,10:19
C'mon, his weight's down from 320 to 308.  That's twelve less pounds for a pass rusher to grab at.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 23 2013,10:27
From the world o' football:

< Junior Seau's family sues >.  This could be interesting.  If they get cash, the NFL turns into an ATM for families of any player that died under a certain set of circumstances.  Think of the impact on other sports in terms of precedent (I'm looking squarely at you, hockey).

Perhaps case in point, < Tim Brown accuses > former Raiders coach of throwing the Super Bowl.    I'd normally call total bullshit out of the gate, but the only thing salvaging this rumour is that Jerry Rice is backing it.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 23 2013,10:38
QUOTE
JaMarcus Russell's sanity lessens further.


He's batshit insane.

QUOTE
Junior Seau's family sues.  This could be interesting.  If they get cash, the NFL turns into an ATM for families of any player that died under a certain set of circumstances.  Think of the impact on other sports in terms of precedent (I'm looking squarely at you, hockey).


Unless they can absolutely prove the NFL knew more about concussions than it did/does, they will lose.

It's a violent sport. You assume certain risks when you suit up. Deal with it. It's a trade off really. Fame, fortune, and your family's security versus the risk of permanent injury.

Next thing you know, a hockey player will sue the NHL after he gets into a melee on the ice. He can claim the league knew fights were a part of the game, but did nothing to protect players.

QUOTE
Perhaps case in point, Tim Brown accuses former Raiders coach of throwing the Super Bowl.    I'd normally call total bullshit out of the gate, but the only thing salvaging this rumour is that Jerry Rice is backing it.


Nobody on a football team is a bigger Prima Donna than the receivers. (Excluding New England, of course.) Brown played a terrible game in the Super Bowl. Ditto for Rice. The rest of the team supports the coach, and the coach himself has ripped their claims.

Seems a lot like sour grapes.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 23 2013,12:38
Jerry seems less likely to bitch about losing his last Super Bowl considering he's won them before.  They probably do just hate the coach or whatnot.  Raiders have sucked since that loss.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 23 2013,12:40
QUOTE
He can claim the league knew fights were a part of the game, but did nothing to protect players.

I'm waiting for that shit.  Fighting in hockey is something the NHL could easily stop but won't.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 29 2013,10:25
In the world of football today...

< Randy Moss is all-time best WR >, according to Randy Moss.  This has "troll" written all over it, so I'll let the final lines of the article speak for themselves.
QUOTE
He has 982 catches for 15,292 yards and 156 touchdowns in his 14-season career.  Hall of Famer Jerry Rice, who now is an ESPN NFL analyst, leads the all-time lists in those three categories with 1,549 receptions, 22,895 yards and 197 touchdown receptions.


< Joe "Mr. Inconsistency" Flacco > weights in about the 2014 Super Bowl venue.
QUOTE
I think it's retarded. I probably shouldn't say that.


< Dirty Sanchez or JaMarcus? >  Kind of like asking which testicle you'd like to be kicked in.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 30 2013,06:13
< Ray Lewis haunted by double murder questions and new reports he used PEDs. >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 02 2013,10:01
Joe Flaco, you just cost your team the Super Bowl! What will you do now?

< I'm going to eat some Jell-O... >

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2013,10:28
They could also provide some salt to rub in their wounds.  Also, up for hypocrite of the year is Roger Goodell, who is simultaneously saying he wants to protect players, their health, and their future, but also wants to tack on another eight quarters of pain to the regular season.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2013,10:09

(Leisher @ Dec. 20 2012,15:36)
QUOTE
AP went on a tear? Has anyone else noticed?

I'm teasing, but not. Seriously, his season might be the most unreported thing of consequence that's occurring this season. I've seen Cam Newton's asshole behavior covered a LOT more. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've only seen AP's season discussed once. (Keep in mind that I don't live in Minnesota.)

< Someone noticed >.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 03 2013,11:10
Now lets sit back and wait for his drug scandal.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2013,17:23
Wow.  You know you're fucked when Joe Flacco is dissecting your secondary.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 04 2013,10:47


Saw the photo below posted with a "WTF!?". I agree.





Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 04 2013,11:00
QUOTE
Saw the photo below posted with a "WTF!?". I agree.

Maybe it's supposed to be from the point of view of the bookie.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 04 2013,15:00
Right, that's how I read it too.  But I mean, it's a 2% return on your money.  Why bother?
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 05 2013,22:02

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 20 2013,17:23
< Wonderlic test > that recruits take.

15 sample questions (don't scroll down too far or you'll get spoiled on the answers).

15/15.  I'm too smart for the NFL.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 20 2013,21:05
I don't think I could get less than 100% on that test unless I actually put effort into fucking up.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 21 2013,10:57
I checked it out and figured it was a joke.

There's no way someone scores 7 or 11 or whatever Vince Young scored.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 21 2013,11:00
Said that was 15 sample questions.  Actual test is 50, or so they say.  Still, the only risk of getting something wrong is not giving a shit or paying attention.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 21 2013,11:26
I dunno, I think a lot of athletes would fail algebra.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 21 2013,12:07
More than a few.  Not all the NFL players are dumbasses, though.  After the QB, the offensive linemen are typically the most mentally proficient, believe it or not.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 02 2013,12:50
< Joe Flacco begs > fate to kick his ass.
QUOTE
As everyone has heard by now, Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco became the NFL's highest-paid player when he agreed to a six-year, $120.6 million contract Friday.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 08 2013,07:01
This guy:


is getting a try out with the Lions.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 08 2013,07:16
Did you guys see this embarrassing exchange between Richard Sherman and Skip Bayless?


Skip Bayless is an unqualified asshole who has his job only because he says shocking things, but Richard Sherman is proving to be among the league's elite assholes. When you say to someone that isn't your mortal enemy, "I'm better at life than you", you've immediately discredited yourself.

I also find people who continuously talk over other people during discussions/debates to be full of shit.A tactic used by cowards.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 08 2013,11:38
< They're doing Major League, but with the Browns. >

I guess losing has its rewards...

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 08 2013,12:26
QUOTE
The film, which is reportedly titled "Draft Day" was supposed to be shot in Buffalo, NY, but the city lost out to Cleveland

Oh Buffalo, you can't even win at losing.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 11 2013,08:16
< The 30 most hated college BBall players of the last 30 years. >

Catt (and Troy?) will love the brackets.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 11 2013,08:40
LOL

QUOTE
If Duke weren't confined to its own quadrant, half the athletes in the competition might be Blue Devils.

Truth.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 11 2013,09:02
By all accounts, < Tom Crean is an asshole >.

I've been hearing a LOT of this lately. Obviously, he's getting more press with Indiana being good, and the negative stories tend to leak out with the positive ones.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 11 2013,09:22
Helluva coach, though.  Maybe cuz I'm not in B10 territory I don't hear the stories.  I wouldn't quite call him an asshole for these comments, but it did seem like an awfully strange time to bring up 5 year old issues that the guy was cleared on.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 11 2013,09:44
I just posted that story as it reminded me that people think he's a dick.

The talk in the Big Ten is that he's a complete asshole. I've heard stories about him threatening multiple people with lawsuits, the other coaches don't like him, he left his old school in a really shitty way, etc.

I guess to be successful in Indiana, you need to be something of an asshole...

On a different note, I was thinking about that most hated college player thing, and had a funny thought: "I'll bet Michael Jordan feels slighted for being left off that list."



Posted by WSGrundy on Mar. 11 2013,16:00
He studied under tom izzo who also has a rep for being an a hole too.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 11 2013,16:36
Awww, I like Izzo.  

Helps that my wife went to MSU, though.  He honestly seems like a decent guy to me.  No Coach K.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 11 2013,22:01
I've heard Izzo is an ass, but like Knight, he's well respected.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 12 2013,11:16
< Jets sign yet another QB. >

That puts 6 on their roster.

They should just fold the franchise.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2013,11:41
You might be able to Voltron them all into one QB.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 12 2013,12:30
I think you just wrote an episode of South Park.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2013,12:43
I think they'll leave the Jets alone, they already did < this > for lampooning football.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 18 2013,09:50
Hey Catt, did you see the finals of that < "Most Hated Player" bracket >?

Hats off to Laettner for having a sense of humor about it.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2013,10:47
< Another rule to minimize contact >.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 18 2013,10:55
Easily the stupidest rule I've ever seen proposed, and I'm inclined to agree with the guy who says it's a ruse to protect them from lawsuits.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 18 2013,12:00

(Leisher @ Mar. 18 2013,12:50)
QUOTE
Hey Catt, did you see the finals of that < "Most Hated Player" bracket >?

Hats off to Laettner for having a sense of humor about it.

I do not know for whom to vote.

But Laettner is clearly the worst.    Don't give Dook it's own bracket, and it's a Dook-only Sweet 16.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 19 2013,11:36
< Leaked NFL uniforms? >

I HIGHLY doubt it. NFL teams do their own re-branding and designs.

I could see it as a single day promotion by their uniform sponsor, ala what Oregon and Nike do, but it's more likely to be some artist or designer's vision for uniforms.

There are some solid ones in there, and some not so solid.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2013,08:22
With all the trades flying around the NFL, a couple have affected my keepers next season so I've now got 5 legit choices for 4 keeper slots:

Russell Wilson QB Seattle ... cheap, have to keep
Rashard Mendenhall RB Arizona ... cheap
Wes Welker WR Denver ... $14
Marshawn Lynch RB Seattle ... cheap, have to keep
Michael Crabtree WR Frisco ... $17

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2013,10:42

(Malcolm @ Mar. 18 2013,12:47)
QUOTE
< Another rule to minimize contact >.

< Passed >.  Tuck rule has been rescinded.

EDIT: Rescinded over the Steelers whining.
QUOTE
Rooney said the Steelers were the only team to vote against getting rid of the tuck rule.



Posted by Leisher on Mar. 20 2013,11:05
The rule about offense players leading is going to lead to lots of flags, and hurt players.

Don't discount what a negative impact this is going to have on your fantasy football teams either.

QUOTE
Tuck rule has been rescinded.

EDIT: Rescinded over the Steelers whining.


Why is that "whining"? You'll have to explain the logic there.

Is it odd that the Steelers would vote to keep a rule they got fucked on this year, and one that really should be called "The Tom Brady Rule".

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2013,11:40
QUOTE
Why is that "whining"? You'll have to explain the logic there.

You'll notice Tom Brady's team voted to get rid of it.  Why the hell would Pittsburgh vote to keep it?

QUOTE
Don't discount what a negative impact this is going to have on your fantasy football teams either.

QUOTE
Rashard Mendenhall RB Arizona ... cheap

Yeah, I think I'll leave him behind.  Will be interesting to see how much of a slot machine Welker can still be in the 2-WR world of Denver.  Of course, considering that NE's offense has half a dozen WRs and he's been producing pretty well, I probably shouldn't be worried.  Was totally going to cut him or use him as trade bait before.  This makes this more interesting.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 20 2013,13:17

(Malcolm @ Mar. 20 2013,14:40)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Why is that "whining"? You'll have to explain the logic there.

You'll notice Tom Brady's team voted to get rid of it.  Why the hell would Pittsburgh vote to keep it?

Again, how is that "whining"?
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2013,16:02
Actually, it appears the Pats abstained in their voting.

In reality, I was going to put "disagreement" instead of "whining."  But I knew one would annoy you more.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 29 2013,10:28
< Mediocre ex-QB tutors sucky current QBs >.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 03 2013,11:01
< Holy shit, Brian Banks is back >.  For those of you who don't know, he fucked some chick back in high school, she said she was raped, he took a plea instead of a trial, and did jail time.  Then, years after the fact, years after the bitch had time to spend all the cash she won from school system, she admits she lied.  However, being a bitch...
QUOTE
More recently, Gibson has backed off her recantation, Brooks said. Nevertheless, when presented with the Innocence Project's findings, Los Angeles County prosecutors agreed that the case should be thrown out.
...
He said prosecutors had no plans to charge Gibson, saying it would be a difficult case to prove.

Fucking seriously.  She lies, destroys a dude's career and life for at least half a decade, profits a million and a half from it, and suffers no consequences.  She deserves to be publicly executed.



Posted by Leisher on Apr. 03 2013,11:53
She should have just stabbed and paralyzed him, then you'd be arguing she was just a dumb kid instead of demanding her public execution!  :D
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 03 2013,12:27

(Leisher @ Apr. 03 2013,13:53)
QUOTE
She should have just stabbed and paralyzed him, then you'd be arguing she was just a dumb kid instead of demanding her public execution!  :D

He got her on tape saying she lied, years after the fact.  Had she come forward a decade ago and admitted the lie, before the dude was forced to register as a sex offender, I'd be more forgiving.  I can see lying to the cops initially if you're a stupid teenager that just got into some shit.  I'm not nearly as nice after you've lived off the $1.5M settlement you extorted out of the school, destroyed someone's life, and your best defense is the following:
QUOTE
According to Banks and his private investigator, Gibson refused to tell prosecutors that she had lied, so that she wouldn't have to return the money she and her family had won in court.

She also said she feared it would affect her relationship with her children, Banks' attorney alleged in court papers.

That level of selfishness should legally prevent you from ever getting anywhere near a child, let alone being responsible for one.



Posted by Leisher on Apr. 03 2013,12:40
QUOTE
He got her on tape saying she lied, years after the fact.  Had she come forward a decade ago and admitted the lie, before the dude was forced to register as a sex offender, I'd be more forgiving.  I can see lying to the cops initially if you're a stupid teenager that just got into some shit.  I'm not nearly as nice after you've lived off the $1.5M settlement you extorted out of the school, destroyed someone's life, and your best defense is the following:


I'll bet the guy who is paralyzed for life would agree to give up 1.5 million dollars to be able to walk again.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 03 2013,13:26
I got zero background on Mr. McStabby.  For all I know, he deserves paralysis and worse because he up and knifed his friend in the spine one day.  On the flip side, maybe McStabby stabbed his buddy over some other bullshit dispute they or their families had.  Maybe McStabby's buddy raped his sister or screwed him out of money and knows the right people in town to get away with it.  Before the plunger drops on that syringe, such questions need to be thoroughly investigated.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 03 2013,13:51
And before you execute this woman publicly, shouldn't you give her the same benefit of the doubt?

Perhaps this guy raped her or did some other shit to her? Maybe this is karmic justice because this dude actually raped and murdered someone else and nobody knows about it. (Some would say that happened to OJ.)

You've got to allow your argument to be applied both ways...

Or maybe he's going through this because he broke that lamp in 1974 and lied about who did it? Maybe his father wants to meet this girl and thank her? (Who else is old enough to get that?)

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 03 2013,14:03
QUOTE
Perhaps this guy raped her or did some other shit to her?

Apparently that $1.5M healed the pain enough for her to be quiet for a bit.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2013,06:20
QUOTE
Apparently that $1.5M healed the pain enough for her to be quiet for a bit.


Oh, now you know what helps rape victims?  :)

Ok Malcolm, we're beyond silly at this point. You got caught in a contradiction, but are too stubborn to admit it. I'm sure you and your future wife will have fun discussing your inability to admit making a mistake in therapy, but I think this topic has lost steam. Let's wait for an actual sports story to come up and we can start debating in this thread again.

For example, it'd be fun if someone wrote an opinion piece about the Vikings called: "Best Vikings QB Ever - Tarkinton or Favre?"

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 04 2013,07:03
Fran all the way.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2013,07:57
I would vote that too, but I thought it'd be an awesome joke to run an opinion piece in Minn's biggest newspaper with the headline: "Brett Favre, the Vikings' Best QB Ever".

You'd have to do it on April 1 so folks wouldn't burn the building down.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 04 2013,08:02
< The Star and Sickle >, the local paper.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 05 2013,17:53
Anthony Jezelnik:
"Rumors abound that a current NFL player is about to come out of the closet. Experts wonder if he'll be ostracized or praised for QBing the New England Patriots to 3 Super Bowl win."

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 05 2013,23:55
QUOTE
Anthony Jezelnik

Going to see him when he comes to town later this month.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 07 2013,08:54
< Joe Flacco's ego > set for record inflation levels.  I hope he throws single digit TD passes this year.

< Gronk out for the season's start >?  All this because his ass couldn't sit out and let his injury heal properly.  Would certainly help if my keeper league chances if he were going to miss the first few games.



Posted by Troy on Apr. 25 2013,08:26
My wish list for the Panthers in the 1st round:

1) Star
2) Austin
3) Vaccaro/Cyprien

1+2 are probably gone by 14.



Posted by Leisher on Apr. 25 2013,09:23
I saw a mock draft that had the Steelers trading out of the 1st round for Philly's 1st round next year and second this year. I'd love to see that happen.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 25 2013,10:22
< EA seeks to avoid Madden Curse this year >.
The cover player for Madden NFL 25?  Barry Sanders.  Yeah, that one.  No, he's not coming out of retirement.



Posted by Troy on Apr. 26 2013,07:24

(Troy @ Apr. 25 2013,08:26)
QUOTE
My wish list for the Panthers in the 1st round:

1) Star Lotulelei
2) Austin
3) Vaccaro/Cyprien

1+2 are probably gone by 14.

Well, that worked out nicely.

A+ 1st round, would draft again.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 26 2013,07:57
The Steelers wanted Jones or Vaccaro and got Jones.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 27 2013,12:11
< Joe Flacco no longer QB with most ca-ching >.  Whether or not he's the most overpaid is still up for debate.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 27 2013,12:43
I like that we picked up Landry Jones, but we'll regret letting the Ravens get John Simon.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 27 2013,15:24
What do you think of Bell?
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 27 2013,16:41
Well, I've watched him play for 4 years, and he's a good back. He's no AP, but he'll be a solid passing down back. Kind of like Mewelde Moore.


Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 29 2013,12:52
Not sure how we missed this: < Viking Draft a Punter >

Kluwe out?

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 29 2013,12:57
I'd bet he has a very slim shot of "winning" the job, mainly because of how outspoken he is in social media.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 29 2013,19:17
< Big "Ten" realigns. >

QUOTE
The East division will be Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State and Rutgers. The West division will be Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue and Wisconsin.


That West is a joke.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 29 2013,19:37
I have no idea what they're thinking putting OSU and Michigan in the same division.

If I was aligning the conference I'd break them up based on their traditional "strength":
OSU                        Michigan
Penn St                   Nebraska
Wisc                        Mich St
Purdue                    Iowa
Northwestern         Rutgers
Maryland                 Indiana
Illinois                     Minnesota

Now move teams sharing the same line back and forth for rivalries, and allow for special matchups, like OSU-Mich every year or Mich-Mich St if they ended up in different conferences, and call it a day.

How can you setup a system where of all the potential matchups that could happen twice in one year, you ensure OSU-Mich isn't it? Because that game NEVER gets good ratings and national exposure...

And maybe that's the problem. They might be worried that it would come down to OSU-Mich playing twice every year.

Posted by WSGrundy on Apr. 30 2013,21:06
From everything I have read it was mich and osu that pretty much said we are in the same division. The system before had you playing certain teams in the opposite division every year and then rotating the others. So if mich and osu are in separate divisions they will still always play each other. Allowing for ups and downs that happen mich will always have to play either the best or second best team in the conference in osu and osu will have to do that same with mich. While msu, neb, wis will end up getting to always play the ind, purdue, ill of the world.

The old system made mich and osu's cross conference schedules much harder then everyone elses.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 30 2013,21:52
I can't imagine a world where there is a season where MI doesn't play OH.
Posted by Leisher on May 01 2013,10:07

Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2013,10:27
I'm waiting for the first catfish to get thrown on the field or put in his locker.
Posted by Leisher on May 06 2013,11:27
< Chris Kluwe tweets that he's been released. >
Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2013,11:35
QUOTE
Kluwe’s outspoken ways on everything from gay rights to former punter Ray Guy not being in the Hall of Fame wore thin with special teams coordinator Mike Priefer.

“I don’t even want to talk about that,” Priefer said last year after Kluwe put athletic tape over the Hall of Fame emblem on his jersey and wrote “Vote Ray Guy” on it, an action that drew a fine from the NFL.

“Those distractions are getting old for me, to be quite honest with you,” Priefer continued. “Do I think Ray Guy deserves to be in the Hall of Fame? Absolutely. But there’s other ways about going about doing it, in my opinion.”

Yeah, I couldn't even focus on that game, with Kluwe standing on the sidelines for most of it, wearing his emblem and distracting everyone from the game of football ... by bringing attention to a disparity in the game of football.

Posted by TheCatt on May 06 2013,11:58
Well, shock.  Wonder if anyone picks him up?
Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2013,12:05

(TheCatt @ May 06 2013,13:58)
QUOTE
Well, shock.  Wonder if anyone picks him up?

Vikings special teams was good last year.  He'll get picked up by someone.
Posted by Leisher on May 06 2013,12:13
Didn't one of the union heads get dumped by his team two years ago (?) and not get picked up by anyone despite being a starter?

Don't discount potential collusion in the NFL, nor should you discount teams simply not wanting a potential distraction...especially as a punter.

Posted by Troy on May 06 2013,12:18

(Malcolm @ May 06 2013,12:05)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ May 06 2013,13:58)
QUOTE
Well, shock.  Wonder if anyone picks him up?

Vikings special teams was good last year.  He'll get picked up by someone.

I thought Kluwe did really shitty last year.
Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2013,12:19
They're punters for fuck's sake.  Give them something to do for the 55:00 they're not on the field.


Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2013,12:26

(Troy @ May 06 2013,14:18)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ May 06 2013,12:05)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ May 06 2013,13:58)
QUOTE
Well, shock.  Wonder if anyone picks him up?

Vikings special teams was good last year.  He'll get picked up by someone.

I thought Kluwe did really shitty last year.

Had a mediocre year.  Not horrible.
Posted by Leisher on May 06 2013,12:29
A mediocre year in a dome...
Posted by TheCatt on May 06 2013,15:29
Leisher won.
Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2013,10:28
< Who wants to play in Miami's stadium >?
QUOTE
Miami Dolphins CEO Mike Dee said in a television interview Sunday his team won't pay for any renovations to Sun Life Stadium after the Florida Legislature ended its session without passing any funding plan that would assist the team's quest to refurbish the stadium.

Posted by Troy on May 07 2013,11:26
No no, the stats I read were like 30th in NFL at pinning the opponent behind the 20. So, terrible.
Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2013,11:28

(Troy @ May 07 2013,13:26)
QUOTE
No no, the stats I read were like 30th in NFL at pinning the opponent behind the 20. So, terrible.

When your QB can't move the ball downfield, you find yourself punting from a ways away.
Posted by Troy on May 07 2013,11:56
FUUUCKK YOU GUY I'VE NEVER HEARD OF!!!

< http://www.nfl.com/news....-newton >

The most obvious Panther troll article on NFL.com

Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2013,12:11
QUOTE
When I look at the young group of quarterbacks, I don't put Newton in the category of Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. He hasn't earned it.

Wtf?  Newton looks to be the second-best in that sentence.  RG3 has shown a bit more playing ability, but all these dudes are fairly green.  Give them a few years.

Posted by Leisher on May 07 2013,14:08
< The Onion weighs in on Kluwe. >

The last line is brilliant.

Meanwhile, Kluwe is writing his own satire piece on Twitter in response.

Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2013,12:12
< Titus Young, arrested twice in a little over 12 hours >.  Arrested once, car impounded.  Arrested again ... for trying to steal the car from the tow company's lot.
Posted by Malcolm on May 12 2013,14:28

(Malcolm @ May 08 2013,14:12)
QUOTE
< Titus Young, arrested twice in a little over 12 hours >.  Arrested once, car impounded.  Arrested again ... for trying to steal the car from the tow company's lot.

< Third time's a charm >.  Christ on crutch.  Gangsters in the '20s didn't get hauled in this often.
Posted by Malcolm on May 16 2013,10:36
< Kluwe signs with Raiders >.  Presumably, just in case old man Janikowski's leg flies off.
Posted by Troy on May 16 2013,10:55
< Not everyone can have the best punter/QB in the league. >
Posted by TheCatt on May 16 2013,11:21

(Malcolm @ May 16 2013,13:36)
QUOTE
< Kluwe signs with Raiders >.  Presumably, just in case old man Janikowski's leg flies off.

J is a kicker.
Posted by Malcolm on May 16 2013,11:31
Seabass is the one of the few dudes I can think of that handle kickoffs, FGs, and punts.  He's also about 35, which is only like 20 in NFL kicker years, so he's got mileage left, but I think his leg strength might be losing a bit.
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 10 2013,19:09
< Tebow to Patriots. >

At least Belichick was smart enough to wait for Tebow to be a bargain.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 10 2013,19:29
Yeah, now Danny Woodhead has a backup.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 20 2013,13:06
"Hoe, where in the fuck did you come from?"

< Pacman on ESPN Radio. > The 1:00 mark is when it starts.

Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 20 2013,13:07

(Malcolm @ Jun. 10 2013,19:29)
QUOTE
Yeah, now Danny Woodhead has a backup.

Or Gronkowski. Or starting TE if he has any more surgeries.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 20 2013,13:21
QUOTE
Or Gronkowski. Or starting TE if he has any more surgeries.
This Hernandez situation seems to be destiny.

No Gronk.
No Hernandez.

There's our 3rd string QB Tebow who has a TE built...

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 20 2013,13:23
Reports say that Tebow can't run passing routes, catch, or (maybe most importantly) block.  I don't see him doing the TE switch.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 20 2013,13:27

(WSGrundy @ Jun. 20 2013,15:06)
QUOTE
"Hoe, where in the fuck did you come from?"

< Pacman on ESPN Radio. > The 1:00 mark is when it starts.

Sounded like "Oh" instead of "Hoe" to me.
Posted by Troy on Jun. 20 2013,14:59

(Malcolm @ Jun. 10 2013,19:29)
QUOTE
Yeah, now Danny Woodhead has a backup.

Danny's with the Chargers now.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 20 2013,15:21

(Troy @ Jun. 20 2013,16:59)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jun. 10 2013,19:29)
QUOTE
Yeah, now Danny Woodhead has a backup.

Danny's with the Chargers now.

Leon Washington, then.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 21 2013,07:07
< It's looking more and more like he's the shooter. >

What a fucking moron.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 21 2013,07:10
The Patriots can pull another TE out of their ass, I'm certain.  Just like they did with the other two.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 26 2013,08:11
< Arrested. >

The Patriots released him this morning after his arrest.

Again, what a fucking moron.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 26 2013,08:14
< The Browns have a murderer too. (attempted) >
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 26 2013,08:32
QUOTE
Cleveland Browns rookie linebacker Ausar Walcott was arrested Tuesday and charged with attempted murder for allegedly punching a man outside a club in Northern New Jersey.

Jesus.  Attempted murder for a shot to the head?  Still a dumb-ass move, but isn't that assault?

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 26 2013,12:13
< Murder was the case that they gave him. >

Again, what a fucking moron.

Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 26 2013,15:28
QUOTE
Former NFL Tight End Aaron Hernandez Charged With Murder

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 27 2013,10:26
< Two more bodies from a year ago >?
QUOTE
Abreu, who was driving, stopped at a traffic light on Shawmut Avenue, about to make a left onto Herald Street, when a silver or gray SUV with Rhode Island license plates pulled alongside the sedan. Someone from the SUV opened fire, killing Abreu, 29, and Furtado, 28.

The men who were with them survived the attack and the killings were left unsolved.

The officials said investigators now believe that Odin Lloyd, the man Hernandez is charged with killing in a North Attleborough industrial park June 17, may have had information about Hernandez’s role in the double slaying.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 09 2013,16:30
< Cashing in on murder >.
QUOTE
But when the sordid details about the case piled on by the day, Lamothe looked at the Number 81 Aaron Hernandez Patriots jersey in his house and knew he wanted it gone.

“I thought about giving it to Goodwill,” he said, “but I didn’t think anybody would want it.”

So instead, he put it on eBay, the online auction site. “I thought I might get $15 for it,” he said.

On Sunday, it sold for $289.



Posted by Leisher on Jul. 26 2013,06:17
< Vince Young forced to sell his possessions. >

Signed in 2006 to a guaranteed $26 million contract, and broke in 2013.

Blame your financial adviser all you want Vince, but the majority of the blame still has to fall on you.



Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 26 2013,09:51
I feel like I could be these people's advisers, and get their shit together.  But I have a feeling way too many of them would just fire me so they could do stupid things.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 26 2013,09:58

(TheCatt @ Jul. 26 2013,11:51)
QUOTE
I feel like I could be these people's advisers, and get their shit together.  But I have a feeling way too many of them would just fire me so they could do stupid things.

QUOTE
You can't fix stupid.

  - Ron White



Posted by Leisher on Jul. 26 2013,10:12

(TheCatt @ Jul. 26 2013,12:51)
QUOTE
I feel like I could be these people's advisers, and get their shit together.  But I have a feeling way too many of them would just fire me so they could do stupid things.

Pro Tips for Professional Athletes:

#1 - Your friends will hang out with you even when you're not picking up the tab. The rest of your "posse" isn't needed, dismiss them.

#2 - Rich people don't stay rich by giving all their money away.

#3 - Absolutely help out parents and siblings, but after that, it's not up to you to take of everyone that's ever attended a family function.

#4 - Live the life of a man who isn't worried about day to day expenses, not the life of a man who is guaranteed to be rich forever.

#5 - Live off the interest.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2013,12:01
< Vince Young and the Packers >.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 06 2013,12:04
Yeah, I don't get that signing at all.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2013,14:52

(Leisher @ Aug. 06 2013,14:04)
QUOTE
Yeah, I don't get that signing at all.

Hey, Aaron Rodgers and two or three other QBs might get hurt.  Maybe their o-line is really weak.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 14 2013,11:58
< ESPN fires Hugh Douglas over a racial incident. >

Riley Cooper wonders why this isn't getting more press...

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 14 2013,12:23
< Most Valuable teams. >

This seems like bullshit.

The Jets are at #6. Why? Seriously, someone explain to me how a team that struggles to be irrelevant is #6 on the list. They also, as stated, had one of the lowest attendance figures last year. I also know they're never near the top of the sales charts in terms of licensed gear. How the fuck are they #6.

The Steelers are at #14 despite having more Super Bowl victories than anyone else, the second highest all time winning percentage, always being the top 5 in licensed gear sold, selling out every game, and being the number one road team in terms of fan attendance.

I don't get it.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 14 2013,12:48
The Cowboys at #1?  Fucking please.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 14 2013,18:04
If the Steelers are selling so much gear, why are their operating margins so low?

I totally believe Dallas as #1, look at those profits.  "America's team" may be BS to us, but people buy their shit.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 15 2013,07:14

(TheCatt @ Aug. 14 2013,20:04)
QUOTE
If the Steelers are selling so much gear, why are their operating margins so low?

I totally believe Dallas as #1, look at those profits.  "America's team" may be BS to us, but people buy their shit.

Selling football gear in Texas is like shooting already dead fish in a thimble.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 19 2013,17:59
Nice O-Line, Leisher.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 19 2013,18:18
They're a work in progress. Going on about a decade of work...

If they had an offensive line, the Steelers might actually be impressive. All those expensive skill players don't mean shit if you can't protect or open holes.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 19 2013,18:44
I'm hoping Ponder goes down in preseason so Cassel can take over.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 20 2013,10:35
Eagles < spin the wheel > again.


Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 21 2013,17:45
It's FF keeper league time for me again.  One draft Saturday, another a week from today.  The former is the $100 keeper auction league and I get to keep up to 4 from ...

Ben Roethlisberger - $5
Marshawn Lynch - $6
Ray Rice - $28
Michael Crabtree - $17
Wes Welker - $14
Owen Daniels - $7
Alex Green - $1
Denarius Moore - $5
Bernard Pierce - $1
Robert Turbin - $1
Russell Wilson - $2
Rod Streater - $1
Andrew Hawkins - $1
Rashard Mendenhall - $1
Fred Davis - $1

Dudes in bold are ones I'm definitely keeping.  No, I didn't mean to get 2 Seahawks, it just kind of happened.  I'm not shelling out for two-thirds of a hobbled Crabtree season.  Rice is too expensive and he's got to give out eventually.  Denarius just killed me in a few games last season, and he's a Raider.  I can't see myself forking out $1 for Rashard in Ari-fucking-zona.

In spite of telling myself I was cutting Welker loose, considering keeping him since I think he'll do well in Denver with old man Manning throwing to him, because they sure as shit aren't winning over there with the run.  That leaves one spot.  I don't have to fill it, but I could see myself going $5 for Big Ben (backup QB/trade bait) or a $1 flyer on Fred Davis (backup TE).

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 22 2013,10:38
< Aaron indicted >.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 23 2013,09:41
< Congress threatening to get involved in HGH testing. >

They have no business being involved, but it's interesting that a D is calling out a union.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 25 2013,17:16
Draft results:

1. QB: Russell Wilson, $2, kept
2. QB: Big Ben, $3
3. RB: Lynch, $6, kept
4. RB: Ray Rice, $28, kept (still halfway hating myself for doing this), tied with Megatron for most expensive player
5. RB: Danny Woodhead, $1
6. RB: Vick Ballard, $2
7. WR: Welker, $14, kept
8. WR: Roddy White, $13
9. WR: Bryan Quick, $1
10. WR: Greg Jennings, $6
11. WR: Kenny Britt, $4
12. WR: Andre Roberts, $1
13. TE: Owen Daniels, $5
14. TE: Gronk, $9, for three reasons: (i) worst case ... just a Gronk postseason is worth $9 and (ii) this is a keeper league, I'll happily IR him and bank him for next year, and (iii) Owen Daniels is good enough to start, just not elite.
15. random kicker, $1
16. Broncos D, $1

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 26 2013,06:58
The New York Jets are an embarrassment to the league.

You play your backup, who by accounts has been stinking up training camp, in the third pre-season game when everyone else is playing their first string people. He proceeds to show that all the draft hype about him was premature by tossing three picks and inexplicably giving up a safety. So then, in the 4th quarter you bring in your projected starter for game 1, who then gets injured.

Ladies and gentlemen, the New York Jets.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 26 2013,07:03
Jets: The Raiders of the East.

Seriously though, the AFC East is a joke this year.  The Pats will win by showing up.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 26 2013,07:18

(TheCatt @ Aug. 26 2013,10:03)
QUOTE
Seriously though, the AFC East is a joke this year.  The Pats will win by showing up.

How has that been different from the last 10 years or so?

Ok, the Jets made two runs, but still, arguably the worst division in football for the past two decades. I mean, at least the NFC West made improvements.

The Dolphins have stunk since Marino retired.

The Bill have stunk since the Kelly/Thomas team.

The Jets have had two decent years under Ryan, but prior to that haven't been a contender since Broadway Joe.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2013,07:20

(TheCatt @ Aug. 26 2013,09:03)
QUOTE
Jets: The Raiders of the East.

Seriously though, the AFC East is a joke this year.  The Pats will win by showing up.

Would still take Matt Flynn over Mark Sanchez.  The Raiders aren't going to be setting the standard for god-awfulness this year.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2013,10:25
< NYJ cutting Braylon Edwards >.  That leaves them with Santonio "Concrete Hands" Holmes and a host of scrubs to catch the passes thrown by whatever Gong Show of a QB they get this year.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 26 2013,11:25
I get it, they love Johnny Manziel - But do they have to be so obvious?
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 27 2013,11:27
< Punters are athletes too >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2013,10:09
< Wow. >  Allegations of PCP usage.  Regular usage.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2013,21:19
Second auction draft done.  More questionable results, though a similar team resulted.  Crossover players:

Owen Daniels
Gregg Jennings
Gronk
Ray Rice
Big Ben
Welker

Took 2.5 hours because it's the first online auction draft for lots of folk and we use $250 instead of $100.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2013,10:57
< NFL QB autocomplete >.
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 30 2013,11:37
What is a buttfumble?
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 30 2013,11:57
buttfumble is < lol >.
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 30 2013,14:52
The commentators were talking about #65 getting pushed back, but I didn't see that.  The QB just ran straight into dat ass.

Slightly lol.  Not nearly as lol as that list was, though, and I don't even know who any of those people are.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 31 2013,09:09
Tebow gone.  Vince Young gone.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2013,09:47
The Pats cut Tebow but keep Gronk on the roster.  Sweet.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2013,09:54
Heard they wanted to keep Tebow but couldn't justify it. I can't believe Young got cut. A week ago they cut their other backup all but assuring him of the job.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 31 2013,11:56
Guess they heard Tebow was available and wanted to make room :)
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2013,13:41
Fantasy football trade:

In one of my leagues, week 8 is going to kill me.  Both my starting RBs and my best 2 WRs have byes then.  I'd like to add that one of those starters is crap & I'd like to unload him plus 1 of the aforementioned WRs for a starting RB.  I have the chance to kill two birds with one stone.

Brian Hartline + Ahmad Bradshaw
... to me in exchange for  ...
Wes Welker + Ben Jarvus Green Ellis (the crap RB).

This is not a PPR or keeper league, there aren't any starting RBs on waivers, and I only got .  I might be able to get my hands on Bradshaw's handcuff/co-RB, but I'm assuming Ahmad gets the lion's share plus goal line carries.  I expect the law firm to platoon with or lose his job to the rookie RB Giovanni Bernard.  Thoughts?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 03 2013,18:30
Hartline won't have the year Welker is going to have by a long shot.

However, the lawyer is barely the starter, but Ahmad is playing in a passing offense...

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2013,19:43
The value of the trade hinges on my bye week disentanglement.  I got 8 weeks before that bites me in the ass, but got some big RB issues to sort out.  My only currency is WRs.

I think that draft is completely fucked because:
1. League is only 2-3 years old.
2. Second season of auctioning.
3. Fucking $250 as opposed to $100 just because people "want bigger numbers."
4. 12 teams

Result: Huge run on RBs/WRs such that top tier dudes go for way more than they should.  You want to stay out of that shitstorm, but you know you can't compete without at least two standout dudes because of the craptacular limit of 20 claims for the season.  Can't afford to roll the dice on 3-4 nobody RBs/WRs  a week to see if one pans out.  You've got no incentive to have cash left after the auction is done.  Dudes are stingy as fuck on trades, too.

Bonus: Pretty much everyone said, "I fucked up my draft," after the auction.

Got a day or so to mull it over.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2013,08:57
< Urlacher: Bears faked injuries > to stop the clock.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2013,10:12
Some dumb-ass dropped Marcel Reece, so when Run DMC gets his annual injury, I'm good.  Dropped the ultra crap RB for him.  Leaves me with Ray Rice/Law Firm and Welker/Demaryius Thomas on bye in week 8.  Got to split those.

McFadden may be the only RB I can think of that's spent more time hurt than Fred Taylor.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2013,09:41
< Warren Sapp on a fuckload of drugs >.
QUOTE
"The second year won't be a sophomore slump for Ryan Tannehill," Sapp said. "He will break Dan Marino's (mark) of 5,084 yards. That's right ... he's gonna break it."

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2013,10:25
< Eagles set for awesome season >.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 05 2013,10:30
Warren Sapp is a moron.

As for Cooper and the Eagles, his teammate is apparently a dick. Not defending Cooper's tirade, but that shit was eons ago and did you see who came to Cooper's defense? His black teammates, including Vick who seemed VERY agitated.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2013,10:34
I think he's got more to apologize for because he was at a Kenny Chesney concert.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2013,20:58

(Malcolm @ Apr. 07 2013,10:54)
QUOTE
< Joe Flacco's ego > set for record inflation levels.  I hope he throws single digit TD passes this year.

< Gronk out for the season's start >?  All this because his ass couldn't sit out and let his injury heal properly.  Would certainly help if my keeper league chances if he were going to miss the first few games.

1) Flaccid Flacco is back, baby.

2) I suppose Gronk being reckless was what let me get him on the cheap this year.  Grapevine says he's back by week 3.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2013,21:40
Christ on a crutch.  First 7 TD pass game in 44 years.  Nice that four of them belong to dudes on my teams (Welker double counting).  Glad I sat Baltimore's D.


Posted by Leisher on Sep. 05 2013,22:08
In one of my leagues I had the fourth overall pick (12 team league) and took Marshawn Lynch. I figured I'd grab another RB1 in round 2.

But guess who fell to me in round 2? Peyton.

Woohoo!

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 06 2013,06:06
Welker and Manning are on my opponent's team this week.  So yeah... fun!  I'm already losing 73 to 20, he's had 3 players, I've had 2.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2013,07:23
Peyton should have only had 6 TD passes.  That dumb-ass on the Denver D prematurely celebrated and dropped the ball on a pick six.  Unfortunately for him, he let go before his foot hit the end zone.  Touchback.  Fucking idiot.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2013,11:09
< Mike Vick >: I get no respect.  I fucking wonder why.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 06 2013,11:38
< Interesting article on passing analysis. >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2013,11:45

(Leisher @ Sep. 06 2013,13:38)
QUOTE
< Interesting article on passing analysis. >

I've been looking for raw info like that for forever.  Where do they get those stats?



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2013,10:25
Pitt 4, Tenn 0

Has that ever happened before?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2013,10:52
Can't find any reference.  Then again, I didn't look too hard.  But, holy shit, the Lions v. Vikings game:

1) Detroit has two TDs in the first half nullified by penalties ... one by that asshat Suh getting his first personal foul of the season.

2) Detroit makes a pick with the Vikes backed up to the 20, then take the penalty I mentioned, then throw a pick on the next play.

Best comment I've seen on nfl.com in awhile:
I just bought a Lions bumper sticker for my old broke down vacuum cleaner and now it sucks again.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2013,11:20
Meanwhile the Panthers and Seahawks are fighting over which team is the most hungover.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2013,13:04
Apparently the 2nd safety was overturned or something.

Little surprised Indy and Seahawks didn't win by more.  And NE struggling against Buffalo.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2013,14:21
The Steelers' season is over. Pouncey is gone for the year (again), and four other players left with injuries and didn't return. That's on top of all the starters already out hurt.

Then there's the RB situation where they cut fumble fingers Dwyer, and today fumble fingers Redman got benched after two fumbles. Then got back in when the backup went out with injury.

If I was the GM, I'd blow up the team now and start trading anyone with value. Get draft pick sand rebuild. You're not winning shit this year.

I look forward to the draft.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2013,15:22
Malcolm's Scrub of the Week Golden Toilet Brush Award Winner: Marshawn Lynch.  Him and AP's performance against Detroit today have killed the 40 point start Welker and Rice gave me.

As for the Steelers, wow.  I didn't think they'd be in a situation where Rashard Mendenhall would look like an upgrade.  Le'Veon Bell better be Walter Payton reincarnated or they're fucked.

The Vikings ... where to begin?  AP was the offense.  Eventually he'll get hurt or come across a real defense that contains the run.  Then Christian Ponder comes on in fine form: 1 fumble, 3 picks, 1 score, and 230 yards plus change.  140 of those to one dude.  His performance was more impotent than < Jimmy Johnson doing an Enzyte commercial >.  Get him the fuck out.  The defense was laughable.  Reggie Bush shouldn't be able to hang 190 yards on your D.  Joique fucking Bell made your goal line look more open than Paris Hilton's legs.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2013,18:00
Romo's apparently ok from his hit last night, the likes of which I've not seen outside Tecmo Bowl.  RG3 is looking more and more like he plays for Washington.


Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 09 2013,18:21
Wow, just wow...
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2013,19:22
He made it a game, he just showed up about 10 minutes too late.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 09 2013,20:54
Well hell.  If I had started Leonard Hankerson, I would be winning my fantasy game despite Peyton Manning being on the other team.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2013,21:00
Fucking AP and Victor Cruz.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2013,21:26
Damn.  Eddie Royal going from obscurity to waiver wire fodder.  It's like 2008 all over again.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2013,21:26
My fate is in Owen Daniels's hands.  He needs a repeat of his first half stats.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2013,22:59

(Malcolm @ Sep. 09 2013,23:26)
QUOTE
My fate is in Owen Daniels's hands.  He needs a repeat of his first half stats.

One league, Victor Cruz and Reggie Bush destroyed me.  The other league, Owen Daniels pulls a miracle.  Multi-TD game.  Rare shit.  That comes from someone who's owned him every season since he was fantasy relevant.  He's my backup until Gronk gets better.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2013,04:14
Well, I won thanks to O Daniels and A Johnson.  I've got Daniels in my keeper league, and today he paid off.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2013,07:20

(TheCatt @ Sep. 10 2013,06:14)
QUOTE
Well, I won thanks to O Daniels and A Johnson.  I've got Daniels in my keeper league, and today he paid off.

I despise Houston's insistence on keeping two TEs involved in the passing game.  First it was Joel Dresesen, now it's Garret Graham.  Vultured 4 catches, 20+ yards, and a score.  Matt Schaub doesn't connect 34 times for 350 yards and 3 TE TDs every week.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2013,13:08
Captain Douchebag < fined > $100K.  I'm sure he doesn't give a fuck.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 11 2013,12:08
Brandon Lloyd < retiring >?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 11 2013,12:11

(Malcolm @ Sep. 10 2013,15:08)
QUOTE
Captain Douchebag < fined > $100K.  I'm sure he doesn't give a fuck.

< This dude > needs a PR agent.
QUOTE
Suh specifically apologized to linebacker DeAndre Levy, whose pick six was negated by Suh's unnecessary roughness penalty for a low block on Minnesota Vikings offensive lineman John Sullivan. The Lions won the Sunday game, 34-24.

"Levy accepted it," Bell said of the apology. "So if he can accept it, everybody should be able to accept it."

No, fuck you.  The dude you ought to apologize to is the one whose knee you could have destroyed.  You get the feeling if he weren't out on the field playing football, he'd be beating the shit out of people as a club bouncer or hip-hop bodyguard.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 12 2013,08:48
< Sanchez gone >?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 15 2013,09:49
Fucking Roddy White.  Have to bench him for at least another week.  Maybe Jennings wakes up this week.  I can't see Jerome Simpson lighting up Chicago's D, and AP can't run it every play.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 15 2013,14:59
So... NFC East is 2-5 so far... with both wins against the NFC East.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 15 2013,21:13
Ray Rice's injury has just gutted both my fantasy seasons.  One team may as well start over.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2013,06:18
I've got Rice on one team and David Wilson on another.

I'll be hitting the waiver wires this week.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 16 2013,08:09
I've got Rice and A Johnson... so yay!

The NFC East is the AFC North of the NFC.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2013,08:27

(Leisher @ Sep. 16 2013,08:18)
QUOTE
I've got Rice on one team and David Wilson on another.

I'll be hitting the waiver wires this week.

I was already running a 2RB system to begin with.  There weren't any viable starters on the wire (some asswipe jacked Bernie Pierce a couple weeks ago) to begin with.

The other league severely caps your claims (20) and limits your bench spots (5 bench, 9 starters).  Over there, the injury roulette wheel landing on you spells the end of your year.  Getting someone from the claims list ain't an option and no one trades.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2013,10:16
AFC North will be 2-6 after tonight with both wins being against AFC North teams.

Last year...let me repeat that...LAST YEAR these teams were the #1, 2, 3, and 4 ranked defense in the NFL.

Cincinnati was picked by many to be the AFC's Super Bowl representative.

Again, the Steelers need to blow it up and get some picks to rebuild. How much money would we save by trading Ben to someone like the Vikings? Let him go be on a contender for the last third of his career and not sit through rebuilding.

As for fantasy, I was pissed last night down 15 or so with 2 guys playing and my opponent had 1 playing. I was projected to score 68 (he had 65 at the time), and he was projected to get to 78.

I was just reading a recap of the week and saw Marshawn Lynch had 3 TDs last night. I stopped and thought, "Wait, I have Marshawn!" Sure enough, I pulled off the win thanks to Lynch!

I'm now 2-0 in that league.

And holy shit, I just checked my other league (the first is with friends/family and this second league is with work peeps) and I doubled the score of my opponent who has the Steelers defense left to play. Unless some miracle occurs, I'm 2-0 in both leagues!

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2013,10:16
< Is Kerry Rhodes jobless because he might be gay? >
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2013,10:18

Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 16 2013,10:31

(Leisher @ Sep. 16 2013,12:16)
QUOTE
< Is Kerry Rhodes jobless because he might be gay? >

We'll know for sure if Jason Collins also never plays again.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2013,10:42

(Leisher @ Sep. 16 2013,12:16)
QUOTE
< Is Kerry Rhodes jobless because he might be gay? >

No, it's because he thinks he's worth more than he is.
QUOTE
There's also the fact that Rhodes may well have priced himself out of his market. Rhodes, entering his ninth year, was apparently offered a $3 million guaranteed deal by the Cardinals, and other teams showed interest. But Rhodes didn't bite on any of the offers, and there have been none since March.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2013,10:43
QUOTE
Marshawn Lynch had 3 TDs last night

Couldn't even come close to saving my ass.  I still don't know why he rings up the 49ers every time.  Think that was the first time in a few games he didn't put up 100+ yards on them.  Only 2 short, though.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2013,11:37
< Jags fans protesting for Tebow. >

Honestly, why not sign him?

Your starting QB is Blaine Gabbert and his backup is Chad Henne. An aging Chad Henne...

You have the single worst offense in the NFL.

Your attendance is way down. The stadium is damn near empty on game day.

Meanwhile, there's a hometown hero sitting on the market waiting to be picked up by a team. A guy who would immediately sell a ton of tickets.

Your season is already a wash, why not make the fans happy, and sign Tebow to sell tickets while you rebuild?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2013,11:54
QUOTE
Jags fans protesting for Tebow.

Honestly, why not sign him?

The owner or GM is already on record saying no way in hell.

QUOTE
Your starting QB is Blaine Gabbert and his backup is Chad Henne. An aging Chad Henne...

While Tebow isn't necessarily an overall downgrade from either of those two, uh, quaterbacks for lack of a better term, he's not exactly someone whose arrow points "up" for the franchise future.  He's duct tape, just like the Broncos found out.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2013,12:32
QUOTE
The owner or GM is already on record saying no way in hell.


It was the GM, and honestly, the owner should help him save face by forcing the issue. After all, it's HIS money, not the GM's.

Every single empty seat on Sundays is proving that GM wrong.

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While Tebow isn't necessarily an overall downgrade from either of those two, uh, quaterbacks for lack of a better term, he's not exactly someone whose arrow points "up" for the franchise future.  He's duct tape, just like the Broncos found out.


You're missing the point.

They could bring in Aaron Rodgers and it wouldn't matter. They don't have a solid team. They're weak at most positions and in a division with three legit contenders. They have zero chances of making the playoffs let alone winning a Super Bowl. They are officially rebuilding.

Thus, it doesn't matter who your QB is right now as nobody on the staff is your future QB. So why not fill seats and throw a bone to your fan base? It's win-win.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2013,18:05

(Leisher @ Sep. 16 2013,12:16)
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How much money would we save by trading Ben to someone like the Vikings? Let him go be on a contender for the last third of his career and not sit through rebuilding.

The more I think about it, he reminds me of a white Daunte Culpepper minus thirty pounds.  Sadly enough, that was the last real QB the Vikes had.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2013,18:20
Rice's injury is reportedly not serious.  This means two things:

1) I won't know until 15 minutes prior to gametime if I'm starting Ray or one of: Danny Woodhead, Chris Ivory, or Jizz Rodgers.  Even combining all three of them might not amount to shit unless Rivers checks down to Woodhead a dozen times next week.

2) The bastard who has Pierce is going to hold on to him like grim death now.  I'll almost have to make an effort to broker a trade.  I'm in the mood to unload Ray's expensive ass rather than snipe his handcuff.  I might be able to swap him for C.J. Spiller.  We'll see if I can talk the dude into it.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 17 2013,07:07
A white Culpepper is not a horrible description. Although, Ben has more accuracy.

I'm in the Rice dilemma in one of my leagues as well.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2013,08:03
Snagged Pierce in my standard league (that opens claims at 2 fucking AM).  For the other league, I'll be picking up Chris Ivory and/or James Starks to platoon backup with Woodhead.  Christ help me.  I need Rice not to suck so I can trade bait him later in the year.  Do not want to deal with the keeper decision next year.

On the plus side, Marlon Brown has been my best WR find this year after I failed to follow through with my instinct on Edelman prior to week 1.  Averaged 1 TD + 4 catches + 40 yards over the first couple games, and that's from Flaccid Flacco's throws.  Week 3 would be a hell of a time for Gronk to stage his triumphant comeback.  Considering Brady's only got one other competent target there currently, I imagine the Pats are chomping at the bit as much as I am.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2013,09:29
Kenny Britt, keep or drop?  Yeah he sucks but he's the only WR with homerun potential on that team.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2013,11:04
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Brian Hartline + Ahmad Bradshaw
... to me in exchange for  ...
Wes Welker + Ben Jarvus Green Ellis (the crap RB).

Reoffered.  I'm seriously thinking about it again.  Hartline's had his second at least serviceable week and Ahmad's cementing himself fairly well.  This solves two bye week problems and gets me away from the Law Firm, who's splitting time wit Giovanni.  Gio looked a lot more impressive last night.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 17 2013,11:40
Welker is the gem there, but with Peyton, he's not guaranteed huge numbers every week as Peyton spreads the ball around.

Hartline is more of a likely scorer IF the Dolphins are legit.

Also I look for the law firm to get less playing time thanks to Monday night's game.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2013,11:58
Betting only two of the three WRs there get decent stat lines every week.  This ain't PPR, either, so Wes's upside is limited.  Green-Ellis looking like a doofus last night compared to the rookie is greatly inclining me to take this offer.  I still have Demaryius Thomas, Greg Jennings, and Antonio Brown for WRs.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2013,18:15
Got to pull the trigger on the deal.  Gets rid of three question marks for a relatively even trade.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 18 2013,11:38
So much stupidity...


Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 18 2013,11:40
Yeah, FedEx field is much better.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 18 2013,11:46

That just set the "women in football" movement back about fifty years.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 18 2013,11:50
< Eyebrow bet was a hoax. >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 18 2013,12:02
< Tony Brown wants more balls thrown Tony Brown's way >.  So do I.  

Sanders is the new Mike Wallace in training and you should be running him long and deep on more plays.  Big Ben can hurl it down the field with some degree of accuracy.  Maybe if you back up the D on the on long pass, you'll get more dink three to five-yard gains on short passes and the run.

The Cotch Rocket is not a dude whose production is going up.  He's plateaued and he'll never be anything more than a WR3.  He's hasn't been worth shit in three or four years.  Antonio Brown is the closest the Steelers are getting to a new Hines Ward.  He's in his fourth season and getting better.  Fucking throw to him more.

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Brown was targeted just three times in the first half of Monday night's game and ended up with nine total targets, catching six passes for 57 yards. Fellow receiver Emmanuel Sanders was targeted a team-high 10 times and caught five passes for 78 yards. The elder statesman of the group, Jerricho Cotchery, was Ben Roethlisberger's most-targeted receiver in the first half with five passes (all incompletions) and ended the game with four catches for 34 yards.

Brown, the man the Steelers decided to give a six-year, $43 million contract in 2012, also complained last year about not being targeted enough, Bouchette reported.

Why are you spending that much cash on a WR and NOT getting him the ball?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 18 2013,22:05

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Got to pull the trigger on the deal.  Gets rid of three question marks for a relatively even trade.

May Indy and Cleveland both rot in hell for years to come and never win another fucking championship.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 19 2013,05:25
I simply do not understand what the fuck Cleveland was thinking.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 19 2013,06:23

(Malcolm @ Sep. 19 2013,01:05)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 17 2013,20:15)
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Got to pull the trigger on the deal.  Gets rid of three question marks for a relatively even trade.

May Indy and Cleveland both rot in hell for years to come and never win another fucking championship.

You got played.
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 19 2013,06:27

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I simply do not understand what the fuck Cleveland was thinking.

not like they were winning any games with Trent.  I get it, he might have been the best player on the team.  But the Browns desperatly need a QB in the worst way.  Not sure who that is but i cannot say i'm totally against it after digesting it over night.  

How do you think Indy fans felt after trading Manning? and they were perennial winners. Now look at where they are at.  The Browns are perennial losers and Trent wasn't winning games for us, only a QB will change our fortunes.  

My problem with it is this.. Why the hell did they do it now?!?!?!! why try and sell the fan base on a decent season just to blow it all up in week 2!!  If the front office really felt like Trent was trash then get rid of him in the offseason.  Now i've gotta watch this death march for 14 more games...

I just hope to god that whoever they get in next years draft is finally the answer.  Because if he isn't then guess what.. another new regime will be in here and maybe in 7-10 years from now the Browns will be relavent.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,07:30

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(Malcolm @ Sep. 19 2013,01:05)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 17 2013,20:15)
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Got to pull the trigger on the deal.  Gets rid of three question marks for a relatively even trade.

May Indy and Cleveland both rot in hell for years to come and never win another fucking championship.

You got played.

I'd suspect it except it was a repeat of a trade offered from a week ago.  If he wanted to be evil, he'd have isolated Ahmad or altered the trade to maximize his benefit.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,07:49
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I simply do not understand what the fuck Cleveland was thinking.

Amen.

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not like they were winning any games with Trent.  I get it, he might have been the best player on the team.  But the Browns desperatly need a QB in the worst way.

Then they should have traded for one already established instead of rolling the dice on a first rounder, especially if they're giving up their pass-catching bell cow of a sophomore RB.

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I just hope to god that whoever they get in next years draft is finally the answer.

Yeah, because Cleveland's had nothing but luck in the world of sports.  They brought it on themselves this time, though.

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 19 2013,08:16

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Then they should have traded for one already established instead of rolling the dice on a first rounder,

and who exactly would that be? Alex Smith? he was the only QB on the market this past off season.  He's ok, and has had some success of late, but San Fran had no problem getting rid of him.  It's not like teams are dangling franchise QB's for the taking.

 The Browns only hope is to get one through the draft.  Trent was a solid, hard running RB, but in his 300+ carries since he was drafted last year he has only had 2 runs over 20 yards! thats a fact.  Hardly the gamebraking RB that warranted a 3rd overall draft pick.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,08:45
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The Browns only hope is to get one through the draft.  Trent was a solid, hard running RB, but in his 300+ carries since he was drafted last year he has only had 2 runs over 20 yards! thats a fact.  Hardly the gamebraking RB that warranted a 3rd overall draft pick.

You don't need an awesome QB to make it in the NFL, you just need a good enough one who isn't going to turn the ball over every drive.  Fucking Trent Dilfer won a championship, but it wasn't because of his l33tness as a QB.  For the record, Alex Smith is a hell of an upgrade over whatever Weedon.  Hell, I'd consider Christian Ponder an upgrade over Weedon.



Posted by Stranger on Sep. 19 2013,09:10

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You don't need an awesome QB to make it in the NFL, you just need a good enough one who isn't going to turn the ball over every drive.  

Its not like that anymore.  

Here is the list of the last 10 Super Bowl winning QB's.

Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Fuck face Ben, Payton Manning, and Tom Brady.

I'd say thats a list of pretty elite QB's, not just game managers.  Trent Dilfer was an anomoly that just had one of the great defenses of all time.

If Alex Smith or Christian Ponder win the Super Bowl i eat my words, but i highly doubt it.

Bottom line, a team needs an elite QB if you wanna win the Super Bowl.  Sure you can get a serviceable QB and maybe make the playoffs, but to win it, you need elite.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,09:15
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Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Fuck face Ben, Payton Manning, and Tom Brady.

Joe, Ben, and Eli aren't in the same league as the others.  Eli might be except for his wildly inconsistent performances.

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 19 2013,09:30
regardless,  the Browns suck, and i've gotta keep eating these poop sandwiches that Cleveland keeps serving up.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,10:36

(Stranger @ Sep. 19 2013,11:30)
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regardless,  the Browns suck, and i've gotta keep eating these poop sandwiches that Cleveland keeps serving up.

Trading Richardson for what could be a worthless pick (I would laugh so hard if they picked Manziel) isn't a way to improve your chances of winning.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,11:38
< Cleveland CEO shovels some serious bullshit >.
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According to coach Rob Chudzinski, the move wasn't about Richardson being a poor fit in Cleveland's offense.

"This really has nothing to do with Trent from that standpoint," the first-year coach said. "The opportunity as an organization was there for us to have the chance to get better ultimately. We felt like it was the right decision after all."

Banner seconded that thought.

"This wasn't something negative about Trent, as much as it was the value that we think we got in terms of what we feel we need to do to move the franchise forward and get it to where we want it to be," he said. "We thought this positioned us well to do that.

I want some of whatever these dudes are smoking/snorting/eating/drinking.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 19 2013,12:01
Reading articles today on it, I get why, but like Stranger said, I don't get the when.

< Good article on the trade >

You either need an elite QB or an amazing defense. It's no coincidence that Baltimore and SF had top 10 defenses. In fact, if you go look, very, very few low ranked defenses make it far in the playoffs.

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Joe, Ben, and Eli aren't in the same league as the others.


You are wrong on top of wrong.

Eli has two super bowl rings to show he's in the top ten QBs in the league.

Ben also has two.

Tom Brady has three, but none since his team was caught cheating, which they were doing when he won his three... On top of that, he got hurt one year and Matt Cassell went 11-5 there. Brady is overrated. He's a system guy.

Of your "elite" QBs, tell me which ones could play in Pittsburgh's no offensive line system where Ben has been hit 100 times more than the second place guy over the past few years (MNF stat).

I'm not saying he's better, I'm just saying that you're basing your opinion on stats, but not looking for the story behind them.

Some day people will think Barry Bonds was the greatest HR hitter ever if they just look at the stats.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,12:23
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Of your "elite" QBs, tell me which ones could play in Pittsburgh's no offensive line system where Ben has been hit 100 times more than the second place guy over the past few years (MNF stat).

He's elite because he makes a durable tackling dummy?

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Eli has two super bowl rings to show he's in the top ten QBs in the league.

I'm not calling the top ten "elite."  I'm not calling any "top [insert number here]" list to be definitive role call of "elite."  Stats determine the tiers of quality for a set of players.

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Brady is overrated. He's a system guy.

Take Matt Cassell right now and throw him in the Patriots offense.  He'd get slaughtered.  Systems change with the personnel in them.  Brady has consistently been a good QB.  I might as well flip a fucking coin for Eli.  Does it help that Bill relentlessly makes all his dudes conform to his idea of what a football offense should be?  Kind of.  But Bill's not the dude out there executing the plays.

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I'm just saying that you're basing your opinion on stats, but not looking for the story behind them.

Some day people will think Barry Bonds was the greatest HR hitter ever if they just look at the stats.

Only if you ignore his stats prior to the turn of the century.  Before then, he's just another solid outfielder that could go 30-30.  Contrast that against someone with real talent, like Hank Aaron.  There's a clear disconnect in the stats where certain scores start jumping.  Not too many players in their mid thirties start seeing a massive uptick in home runs and slugging percentage.

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 19 2013,12:46
Elite or not, call it what you will.  If your team is going to win or even go to the Super Bowl you better have one helluva QB.

Hell, with the exception of Dilfer and Brad Johnson i can go back 20 years and say all QB's that won the super bowl are elite.

Warner, Elway, Farve, Aikmen, and Young.  Shall i continue?  

Sure some people are gonna say Brady is a system guy and would fail elswhere. But so what, that doesn't matter, what matters is he wins in the system he is in and gets the job done.  Period.

Ben, prolly not the smartest QB ever, and maybe his star is fading.  But goddamnit, that mother fucker keeps his team in the game and gets the job done.  Even when everything else around him is falling apart.  I've seen it way too many times.

Eli, very up and down.  But when the biggest games have been on the line he has won.  He's got more rings than his brother.

The bottom line in this league is winning.  QB's get way to much credit for winning and take way to much blame for the losses.  But in the end the cream of the crop rises to the top, a great QB will get the job done over time and their team will prosper from it.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,12:59
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Hell, with the exception of Dilfer and Brad Johnson i can go back 20 years and say all QB's that won the super bowl are elite.

Flaccid Flacco?  Really?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 19 2013,13:11
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He's elite because he makes a durable tackling dummy?


He's elite because he can take that beating, yet still keep winning games. Who threw the greatest pass in SB history? Ben.

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Stats determine the tiers of quality for a set of players.


That's wrong, but even if it were correct, Eli and Ben have double the rings Peyton and Aaron have, and if you added Drew's you still wouldn't equal their rings.

SB wins is kind of an important stat. Ask Dan Marino.

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Take Matt Cassell right now and throw him in the Patriots offense.  He'd get slaughtered.  Systems change with the personnel in them.  Brady has consistently been a good QB.  I might as well flip a fucking coin for Eli.  Does it help that Bill relentlessly makes all his dudes conform to his idea of what a football offense should be?  Kind of.  But Bill's not the dude out there executing the plays.


I disagree. I think Bill would coach him to run the system that he's used forever. The system hasn't changed, just personnel. And don't pretend there were stars there before. NE has always had a rag tag bunch of nobodies with a few big names sprinkled in.

Also, it probably is in Tom's favor that he played behind the #1 O line in the NFL for the majority of his career. Completing passes is easier if you're not running for your life every play.

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Only if you ignore his stats prior to the turn of the century.  Before then, he's just another solid outfielder that could go 30-30.  Contrast that against someone with real talent, like Hank Aaron.  There's a clear disconnect in the stats where certain scores start jumping.  Not too many players in their mid thirties start seeing a massive uptick in home runs and slugging percentage.


Who was it that hit the 61 back in the day? How many did he hit the previous 5 seasons? You don't know. Know why? Nobody gives a fuck.

And your argument is invalid anyway because you ignored my point by trying to look at the story behind the stats. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too. Pick a side and live with your decision. Either stats are everything or they're not.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,13:41
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Who was it that hit the 61 back in the day? How many did he hit the previous 5 seasons? You don't know. Know why? Nobody gives a fuck.

Actually, I do know.  He had an unbelievably exceptional year, as did a number of Yankees that season.  His home run curve (except for one year) looks like is almost symmetrical around the infamous 61 HR-year.  That's why no one's been insane enough to argue for Maris over someone like Babe Ruth for power hitting.

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That's wrong, but even if it were correct, Eli and Ben have double the rings Peyton and Aaron have, and if you added Drew's you still wouldn't equal their rings.

Other than stats, what are you going with?  Gut feelings?  Barry has a chemical test that says his results are bullshit.

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SB wins is kind of an important stat. Ask Dan Marino.

For your legacy in the eyes of the fans, maybe.  Statistically, he's got better numbers than Montana, Elway, Young et al.  It's damn near criminal he gets remembered after those dudes.

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Also, it probably is in Tom's favor that he played behind the #1 O line in the NFL for the majority of his career. Completing passes is easier if you're not running for your life every play.

Yeah, totally in his favour.  It's also easier to be a QB if your D has a better than average chance of stopping the opponents from scoring.  It's easier if the opposing team has a shitty punter.  It's easier if you've got a Pro Bowl RB to keep the pass rush honest.  I could go on.

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Either stats are everything or they're not.

They're not everything but they count for the a fuckload unless you're arguing aesthetics.  Stats tell stories.  Looking at Barry's power numbers spike when he hits his mid thirties is a red flag.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 19 2013,14:04
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Actually, I do know.


That's why you listed the numbers right?

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Other than stats, what are you going with?  Gut feelings?  Barry has a chemical test that says his results are bullshit.


Again, you're trying to contradict your own previous statements to "win". I'm pointing out that if stats trump all, which is your argument, your list of elite QBs fails.

Also, Barry's test means shit. It was barely the smoking gun they wanted. It will be forgotten.

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For your legacy in the eyes of the fans, maybe.  Statistically, he's got better numbers than Montana, Elway, Young et al.  It's damn near criminal he gets remembered after those dudes.


But it happens, proving my point.

Years from now, people will talk about the helmet catch, the insane Ben to Holmes throw, Ben's ability to escape, etc. They won't talk about completion percentages.

It's the Tin Cup logic.

The greatest tennis players in history weren't McEnroe, Bjorg, Conners, or Andre, but that's who people remember because of their personalities and what they did on the courts. Today's men are boring as fuck.

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Yeah, totally in his favour.  It's also easier to be a QB if your D has a better than average chance of stopping the opponents from scoring.  It's easier if the opposing team has a shitty punter.  It's easier if you've got a Pro Bowl RB to keep the pass rush honest.  I could go on.


And it all works towards my argument about Tom.

Because the NFL ignored the snowplow, but stepped in for the tuck rule...

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They're not everything but they count for the a fuckload unless you're arguing aesthetics.  Stats tell stories.  Looking at Barry's power numbers spike when he hits his mid thirties is a red flag.


Stats tell part of a story, they don't tell all of a story.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,15:13
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That's why you listed the numbers right?

I don't know every HR total from each career year as I'm not a goddamned sports almanac.  I can tell you the curve starts in the teens and ends in the single digits, has 250ish total homers in it, peaks in the big year (61 in '61, naturally), then cuts to near 50% +/- 10% for the years surrounding it, and was in the.  I know he ended his career with the Cesspool Deadbirds during the '67-68 season, and I know he started in '57.  I know he hit under 10 HR more than a couple times.  I know while he was a good power hitter, he, much like Manning the Lesser, was streaky as hell.  Was he hitting 40 homers this year or 13?  Was he batting in 100 RBIs or 50 (probably the latter)?  Then again, I'm a bit of a baseball nerd, particularly for the more interesting players from '27 til about '95.

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I'm pointing out that if stats trump all, which is your argument, your list of elite QBs fails.

You need a large asterisk to override the stats.  A drug test does it, players throwing the game for money does it, etc.  Other than that, I will fall back on stats more than almost anything else.  Not all stats are created equal.  Just because some dude is sky high for one number doesn't make it a purely positive thing.  It's cool Ben can take hits.  The fact he's taking that fucking many worries me.

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Years from now, people will talk about the helmet catch, the insane Ben to Holmes throw, Ben's ability to escape, etc. They won't talk about completion percentages.

< Another dude like Ben >.  Has a championship, fuckload of all-star appearances, MVP wins, and baseball nerds still talk about his five strikeouts during the '34 all-star game.  You'll notice he's not in the hall of fame despite having a more than respectable ERA, record, and many other numbers.  People don't talk about percentages because that's not what people typically do.  They talk about the memories.  But when you want to rank things instead of bask in nostalgia, you need more than memories.

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Stats tell part of a story, they don't tell all of a story.

Granted.  But I can trust the numbers and any misinterpretation is my fault.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 19 2013,16:43
Malcolm, what current QBs qualify as elite?  What % of the NFL is reasonable for elite status?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2013,20:18
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Malcolm, what current QBs qualify as elite?

If I had to pick from the current starters:
Brady
Manning the Greater
Brees

Is it biased towards dudes who've been in the league a few years?  Yeah.  Takes time to be counted among the best.  

Is it biased towards dudes who've been on winning teams?  Well yeah, those QBs tend to have better numbers.  While you may speculate on what would happen if their offensive lines had other players or if they were throwing to different wideouts or if they were in a different division, whatever, it is merely that -- speculation.  The only hard evidence I have is the dudes they played with, threw to, and played against.

There are others that I might add to that list in a couple years.  I'm extremely curious where the crop of "agile QBs" is going to end up considering the prototype, Vick, is scratching his mid thirties in a couple years.

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What % of the NFL is reasonable for elite status?

Depends on the numbers.  There's no clear cut answer.  It's theoretically possible for everyone to suck evenly.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 20 2013,07:42
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I don't know every HR total from each career year as I'm not a goddamned sports almanac.


Exactly my point.

You're trying to say that stats will tell the story, but my point is that while they do tell some of the story, they don't tell the whole story.

When people talk about "greatest QB ever", Marino is getting left out of the conversation a lot, and honestly, he's probably the second best ever. He doesn't get any credit though because he wasn't flashy, and didn't win the big games. Hell, the most he's been mentioned in the last decade was to compare Peyton's career to his until Peyton won his ring.

Stats can't talk about the scheme you're in, the line you have, the defense you have, your coach, your receivers, etc. That's their weakness.

To put this in other terms, let's bring in League of Legends. Each match tracks your kills, deaths, and assists. It also tracks how much gold you earned, and minions killed. You could be your team's ADC (damage dealer), and go into fights and melt enemy health, but have other folks on your team land a killing blow with an attack that does a small amount of damage. What does that do to your stats? It makes you look like you're not doing your job.

More importantly, and this applies more to football and LoL than baseball, your stats are usually very dependent on teammates, and stats don't show that.

Did you watch the Patriots last week? Outside of Edelman, there wasn't a Patriot on the field who could catch the ball.

Anyway, long story short, asterisks or not, stats do not and cannot tell the whole story.

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If I had to pick from the current starters:
Brady
Manning the Greater
Brees


I will always argue that Brady does not belong in that list. He's a very good QB, but he's not elite. The system he plays in makes him seem elite.

And my point about Ben is that "elite" isn't always just about throwing the ball. No other QB could have won two super bowls with the Steelers during this time because no other QB has his physical abilities.

But yeah, to cut down on future walls of text, stick to this point if you still need to respond: Stats don't tell the whole story.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 20 2013,07:52
< Troy P. is cutting his hair. >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2013,08:25
Hey Eagles...

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2013,10:58
< Holmgren agrees with Malcolm >.  Though, that kind of makes my position a bit weaker.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2013,18:27
Reggie Bush and Willis McMaybe for Ray Rice?  I'm considering it, which is fucked up.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 22 2013,11:05
So, RG3... was it getting married or the knee?  Cuz you are not the same person.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2013,11:24
He will allegedly be "back to top form" next week.  I have yet to see him take off on a run the way he did last season, though.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2013,11:31
Christ.  The Browns don't even need Richardson to run through the Vikings.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 22 2013,12:08
The good news is that I didn't start Eli Manning today... the bad news is I still started Matt Schaub.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 22 2013,14:27
I started the Panthers D.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2013,15:36

(TheCatt @ Sep. 22 2013,14:08)
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The good news is that I didn't start Eli Manning today... the bad news is I still started Matt Schaub.

Started Marlon Brown in one of my leagues.  Two decent weeks, then jackshit.  Fucking Flaccid Flacco.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2013,15:36

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I started the Panthers D.

But they had that elite quarterback, Eli Manning, going against them.  HAHAHAHA
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 22 2013,15:48

(Malcolm @ Sep. 22 2013,18:36)
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(Troy @ Sep. 22 2013,16:27)
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I started the Panthers D.

But they had that elite quarterback, Eli Manning, going against them.  HAHAHAHA

He's proving my point about Ben.

Hard to play without an O line.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 22 2013,16:13
Well, the Giants are having a rough year.  And the Redskins.  SF had a terrible day today... and last week...

Miami is looking pretty good so far.  Next week against NO and 4 weeks from now against NE should be interesting.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2013,16:42
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SF had a terrible day today... and last week...

Seattle has been beating SF as of late.  But I really thought the 49ers would be able to take out Indy.

I've got a dog's chance in hell of winning both games this week in spite of some absolutely fugly lineups.


Standard league: Bernie Pierce and Brian Hartline come through while Bradshaw lingers on my bench.  Fortunately my opponent only had Julio Jones and Bilal Powell do anything.  I've got 3 players -- Big Ben, D. Thomas, Broncos D, Tony Brown -- to get 25+ points.  Possible, but unlikely.

PPR: Wes Welker and the Broncos D need to net me 17+ points.

Also, continuing my traditions of having injured RBs, Chris Ivory goes down in both leagues for me.  My standard league RB situation is so fucked, it's not even funny.  I'm anxiously awaiting Gronk's return next week.  May run with 2 TEs (Daniels and Gronk) for the rest of the year since my WRs and RBs suck.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 22 2013,17:49
Sat EJ Manuel, mistake.
Sat A Bradshaw, mistake.
If the Broncos D can score me about 20-30, I'm good. :p

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 22 2013,18:14
Shit.

Just trade Ben before he gets killed.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2013,18:22

(Leisher @ Sep. 22 2013,20:14)
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Shit.

Just trade Ben before he gets killed.

On the plus side, he'll be doing nothing but throwing from now on.  If he connects on 50% of his passes, he and Tony Brown might be worth starting.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2013,18:53
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Tony Brown wants more balls thrown Tony Brown's way.  So do I.

See what happens?  Throw to the dude more.  I'm pretty much guaranteed to win both leagues now unless Welker gets shut down.  Even then, a strong enough defensive showing would do it.  It is the Raiders, after all.

Big Ben, Brown, and Sanders are the Pittsburgh offense until the gimping LeVeon proves he can run, because no one else is stepping up to that mic.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2013,12:37
< Stripper-related injury >?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2013,12:51
< Brady texts Brandon Lloyd >.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2013,18:35
1 TD from Welker or the Broncos D and I win my PPR league.  WOOHOO!!!  Wes scores in the middle of my writing this.  I could still technically lose but he'd have to get hurt and Denver would have to give up a shitload of points.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2013,08:10
< Goddamn >.  I was going to pick him up this week, too.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 24 2013,08:20
I got 37 fantasty points from my D and still lost because Peyton is Peyton and Mike Wallace and Dwayne Bowe are fucking shit. That is all.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2013,10:47
< Ponder's leash >.
QUOTE
"I think our whole team is frustrated in where we're at," Ponder said. "But we're fine. We've got to get this thing changed around."

I think those two sentences are a telling indication of where his career's headed.  You're fine, but you have to get things "changed around."  Riiiiiiiiiiiight.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 24 2013,10:55
They get a free win next week.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 24 2013,12:17
I dunno... they lost to the Browns, this will be close.

Hah - Steelersare 1 pt favorites.

Redskins are 3 pt favorites against Raiders.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2013,13:06

(Leisher @ Sep. 24 2013,12:55)
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They get a free win next week.

You underestimate the ability of the Vikings to suck ass in the face of all reason and logic.  Childress's prevent offense is back, baby.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2013,12:10
< Vikings season may get better >.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2013,12:23
PPR league flex options:

Roddy "Decoy" White
Danny "Checkdown" Woodhead
Marlon "Flaccid Flacco is killing my upside" Brown
Owen "Matt Schaub is my Joe Flacco" Daniels

Which one?



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 25 2013,12:24
I cannot wait to post here: "Let the Josh Freeman era begin in Minnesota".
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2013,13:44

(Leisher @ Sep. 25 2013,14:24)
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I cannot wait to post here: "Let the Josh Freeman era begin in Minnesota".

Brady hinted Cassel's starting this week.

But to the Josh Freeman comment, FUCK no.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2013,17:46

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2013,15:10)
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< Vikings season may get better >.

Yeah... remember how well that worked LAST TIME yall got upset and wanted a new QB?
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 25 2013,19:08

(TheCatt @ Sep. 25 2013,20:46)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2013,15:10)
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< Vikings season may get better >.

Yeah... remember how well that worked LAST TIME yall got upset and wanted a new QB?

We need a like button.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2013,20:22

(Leisher @ Sep. 25 2013,21:08)
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(TheCatt @ Sep. 25 2013,20:46)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2013,15:10)
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< Vikings season may get better >.

Yeah... remember how well that worked LAST TIME yall got upset and wanted a new QB?

We need a like button.

A) Joe Webb is running WR routes in practice.  He's reportedly not shitty.

B) Christian Ponder has maybe T-Jack level talent.  You'll note he's serving as Russell Wilson's bitch and got some charity garbage time this past weekend.  That's all he's getting.

Ponder is decidedly not the answer.  He never will be.  I'd rather spin the wheel.  I'd give Tebow a start over Ponder.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2013,07:45
Vikings head coach: "< We really, really want to lose >."
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 26 2013,07:54
Wow.  losing to Cleveland can really get shit rolling downhill fast.  Even Adrian Peterson's daughter said "Really dad, you lost to the Browns?!"
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2013,08:12

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2012,19:46)
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I'd bet everything I have that if the Vikings started Joe Webb, they'd have a shot at doing something interesting next year.  He's not that good, but he's a damn sight better than Mr. Samantha Steele.

*cough*
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2013,08:17

(TheCatt @ Sep. 26 2013,10:12)
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(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2012,19:46)
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I'd bet everything I have that if the Vikings started Joe Webb, they'd have a shot at doing something interesting next year.  He's not that good, but he's a damn sight better than Mr. Samantha Steele.

*cough*

I said a shot.  As in, "Washington has a shot at beating Oakland this week."  They could still lose.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 26 2013,08:28

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2013,12:23)
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PPR league flex options:

Roddy "Decoy" White
Danny "Checkdown" Woodhead
Marlon "Flaccid Flacco is killing my upside" Brown
Owen "Matt Schaub is my Joe Flacco" Daniels

Which one?

PPR league?

Danny Woodhead has been getting a lot of snaps and catches. That's my vote.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2013,08:29

(Troy @ Sep. 26 2013,10:28)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2013,12:23)
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PPR league flex options:

Roddy "Decoy" White
Danny "Checkdown" Woodhead
Marlon "Flaccid Flacco is killing my upside" Brown
Owen "Matt Schaub is my Joe Flacco" Daniels

Which one?

PPR league?

Danny Woodhead has been getting a lot of snaps and catches. That's my vote.

I'm leaning in that direction more and more as game time approaches.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2013,08:59

(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2013,11:17)
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(TheCatt @ Sep. 26 2013,10:12)
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(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2012,19:46)
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He's not that good, but he's a damn sight better than Mr. Samantha Steele.

*cough*

I said a shot.  As in, "Washington has a shot at beating Oakland this week."  They could still lose.

Allow me to direct your attention to the other half of that quote.

You are wrong.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2013,09:06
I'm not basing that judgement entirely from one game's performance.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2013,12:54
< Jags fans bribed with beer >.  Blaine Gabbert is really that bad.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2013,19:34
Does your team need a boost?  Just play the Rams.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2013,10:38
< Cassel starts >.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 27 2013,10:40
I think I honestly would prefer the Steelers crash and burn so they have to admit the season is lost and start a rebuilding process.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2013,09:29
Word on the street is that the Pats wanted to put Gronk in week 2 but Gronk and his agent wanted week 6.  The hell?  Who is the Patriots team doctor?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2013,16:02
Flacco is totally worth his contract.
QUOTE
On March 4, 2013, Flacco signed a six-year contract worth $120.6 million, a record high for a quarterback at the time.

Six years for ~$120M, so $20M per year.  What does $20M buy you nowadays for an NFL quarterback?  1091 yards passing, six TD passes, SEVEN goddamned interceptions, five of those coming today.  Flacco needs to be traded to NYJ so I can start calling him "Off-Broadway Joe."  I also declare that going for Ray Rice has officially fucked both my fantasy teams this year.

As for NYG, they're a Victor Cruz injury away from being the Steelers.  Least Eli managed 1 TD this week.  Maybe he'll get twice as many next time.

Speaking of the Steelers...
Are they all committing mass suicide tomorrow or ... what's the plan?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 29 2013,16:20
What are you talking about? The Giants are FAR worse than the Steelers. The Steelers can actually score points. They're not getting blown out like the Giants or Jags.

I think this is a combination of an old defense, the youngest and most injured offensive line in the league, and Mike Tomlin not being able to get the most out of his players.

Trade Ben!

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 29 2013,17:07
The NFC East is a disaster.  Just wow.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2013,17:51
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...Mike Tomlin not being able to get the most out of his players.

He had the Tone Loc eyes going a few times.  I keep expecting him to break out "Wild Thing" on the sidelines or something.

How bad is Ray Rice?  To put it in perspective, with the exception of week 1, Danny Woodhead has outperformed him every week.  Just goddamnit.  Benching Rice for Woodhead this week would have made me bring Greg Jennings in to flex.  Looks like he had his "Thank fucking god Ponder isn't throwing" celebration and I missed out.  FUCK.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 29 2013,19:58
Woodhead got me like 20 points today, Solid.
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 30 2013,07:20
Trent Richardson, 20 carries for 60 yards against easily the worst team in football.  Getting a first round draft pick for this very ordinary running back in a league that is devaluating the RB position is like striking gold!

Good job to the Cleveland front office for making this move.  And who knows, the Browns might not even need to use that pick on a QB.

Call em the mistake by the lake all you want, but they're tied for first in the division and the Squeelers are 0-4!  And you can say the Hoyer is playing better than every other QB in that division right now.

And the Indians won 10 in a row to make it to the wildcard game! So all you Cleveland haters can suck it!!!



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 30 2013,07:27
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And the Indians won 10 in a row to make it to the wildcard game

Such high aspirations.

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 30 2013,07:40

(TheCatt @ Sep. 30 2013,10:27)
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Such high aspirations.

92 wins is no small feat in baseball.  Its not like the NBA or NHL where half the league makes the playoffs.  

So yeah, the wildcard is an accomplishment.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2013,08:44
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Woodhead got me like 20 points today, Solid.

Amen.

QUOTE
Trent Richardson, 20 carries for 60 yards against easily the worst team in football.

It's hard to get psyched when you know you're playing the retard squad and your backup's backup could handle them.

QUOTE
but they're tied for first in the division

The second worst division in the NFL.  Maybe the NFC East is shittier.  It's a close call.

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you can say the Hoyer is playing better than every other QB in that division right now

Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton, and Big Ben.  Wow.  What a crew.  I'd still take Ben's handwarmer over Hoyer at the moment.  Maybe in another couple years.

QUOTE
And the Indians won 10 in a row to make it to the wildcard game! So all you Cleveland haters can suck it!!!

They closed out the season against the Twins.  My company softball team could probably do that right now.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2013,10:50
< More from Big Blue >.
QUOTE
"I thought we should have gone for it on that fourth down," Cruz said, per the New York Daily News. "It's coach's call at the end of the day. ... We had the momentum. I felt it was a yard, not even a yard, half a yard, we've got to take a risk at some point and make something happen."

QUOTE
"If anyone turns on our coach, I would be the first one to punch him in the mouth," Tuck said. "And put that in print. It better not happen, I know that."

You can almost hear "We Are Family" playing in the background.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2013,11:31
< Dirty Sanchez's season, starting career over >.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2013,19:10
Terry Bradshaw is officially the new John Madden.

They were comparing all purpose yards among:
Sproles
Welker
Cribbs
Steve Jackson

Sproles had the most, and this is right after he scores his second TD, then Terry chimes in, "Sproles is like a combination of all three of those guys."

WTF?  I could go about any of those three, but what part of Steven Jackson is a 5'5" RB/WR combo?  He's not the dude I think of when I hear "pass catching RB" and he's more of a battering ram than a finesse runner.  He is the fucking opposite of Darren Sproles.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2013,09:58
< Giants will go 12-0 > from now on, says Giants player.

Arizona Cardinals head coach < compliments > team's offense after win.
QUOTE
On Monday, the day after the Cardinals' 13-10 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the coach succinctly described his offense.

"It was putrid," he said, per the Cardinals' official website.

A far, far nicer word than I would have used.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2013,10:36
< Terrell Suggs has taken one too many hits to the head >.
QUOTE
Interviewer Lisa Salters responded with the perfect blend of skepticism and amusement, asking whether Suggs actually thought Goodell turned the lights out at the February game in New Orleans.

“Most definitely, I thought he had a hand in it.”



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2013,11:49

(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2013,09:45)
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Vikings head coach: "< We really, really want to lose >."

< Vikings coach: > Maybe, maybe not.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2013,09:24
The Jaguar car boot sale is < open >.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,07:48
< Ravens to say they need to use Rice more >.  In other news, fish need water.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2013,08:13
Man, that'd be nice.  I've got 5 RBs... 2 are injured, one's on bye week, the other is Ray Rice, and the last is Chris Ogbonnaya, but Da'rel Scott got cut... Yeah, I'm thin.  But last year (it's a keeper league), it worked well with Rice and Morris.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,08:20
RBs seem especially thin this year.  Woodhead's saving me right now.  Fucking RB-by-committee.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2013,09:12

(Stranger @ Sep. 30 2013,10:40)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 30 2013,10:27)
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Such high aspirations.

92 wins is no small feat in baseball.  Its not like the NBA or NHL where half the league makes the playoffs.  

So yeah, the wildcard is an accomplishment.

God hates Cleveland.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,09:14

(TheCatt @ Oct. 03 2013,11:12)
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(Stranger @ Sep. 30 2013,10:40)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 30 2013,10:27)
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Such high aspirations.

92 wins is no small feat in baseball.  Its not like the NBA or NHL where half the league makes the playoffs.  

So yeah, the wildcard is an accomplishment.

God hates Cleveland.

Apparently god has taste.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 03 2013,09:36
David Wilson has been the worst first overall draft pick i've ever made. (new to a buddies keeper league)

At least Scott got cut. Can't have him stealing 3 yard carries.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,10:02
< Seahawks snap one off in 49ers' ass. >

Apparently, it was payback.

QUOTE
David Wilson has been the worst first overall draft pick i've ever made.


Ditto.

Although, I got Peyton in the late second round (#1 scorer in fantasy), and his backup is Phillip Rivers (#3 scorer in fantasy).

Also, let me address an older post from my boy Stranger.
QUOTE
the Squeelers are 0-4!


Two things about this:
1. I've never seen a fan base outside of Ann Arbor so desperate for anything bad to happen to their rival. I assume this is mainly because they can't do it themselves.
2. Do you know why Steelers fans don't use cute little joke names for the Browns? Because their name is the fucking BROWNS. They did it themselves. Making fun of their name would be like trying to trip a kid in a wheelchair.

Also, sorry about your Indians. I was pulling for them (seriously).

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,10:08
FUCK ALL OF YOU!!!

FUCK THE STEELERS!!!

Posted by Troy on Oct. 03 2013,10:14
Your team is named after a turd.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2013,10:24

(Leisher @ Feb. 04 2013,13:47)
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Saw the photo below posted with a "WTF!?". I agree.

Updated:



Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,10:26

(Troy @ Oct. 03 2013,13:14)
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Your team is named after a turd.

I DON'T CARE IF THEY WERE CALLED THE CLEVELAND DICK LICKING FAGGOTS!

...FUCK THE STEELERS!

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,10:35
Well...that's homophobic hate speech right there.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,10:37
OH YEAH.. AND FUCK DETROIT TOO! IM SICK AND GODDAMN TIRED OF TIGER'S FANS!

...i'm venting today, and if the Browns lose tonight i'm gonna get even more pissed.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2013,10:44
Lol.... Go Bills :)
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,10:48
I've always liked Stranger's undying passion for his teams. No matter how much they lose, every year, he still sees the potential for greatness, and agonizes in each defeat.

If he were a religious man, he'd be a suicide bomber.

On the bright side, the Browns are tied for first and his fantasy team is the only undefeated team in our league.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,10:50

(TheCatt @ Oct. 03 2013,12:44)
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Lol.... Go Bills :)

Amen.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,10:51
QUOTE
On the bright side, the Browns are tied for first and his fantasy team is the only undefeated team in our league.

How many Cleveland players is he starting per week?

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,10:53

(Malcolm @ Oct. 03 2013,13:51)
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How many Cleveland players is he starting per week?

LOL!! just one, Jordan Camron..  Trent Richardson got traded!
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,10:53
He had two (Cameron and Trent), but now he's down to one after the trade.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,10:55

(Leisher @ Oct. 03 2013,13:48)
QUOTE
If he were a religious man, he'd be a suicide bomber.

Hah! I'd put a Jihad on all of you
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,11:05
No wonder he's undefeated, he's not tied down having to start the rest of Cleveland's shitty team.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,11:06
Yeah, you probably would, but in typical Browns fashion, you'd end up blowing yourself up, and I'd win the holy war for the 7th time...

Also, get on our league page. Check the messages.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,11:31

(Malcolm @ Oct. 03 2013,14:05)
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No wonder he's undefeated, he's not tied down having to start the rest of Cleveland's shitty team.

Nah.. i just don't draft bum ass scrubs like David Wilson and then pin my hopes on someone like Danny Woodhead.

I took Cameron real late and he's been an unexpected surprise. I've got good talent on my bench yet.  i haven't even looked for a transaction yet.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,11:36
Woodhead's legit for PPR.  Standard, not so much.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,12:12
< Freeman a free man >.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,12:23
QUOTE
i just don't draft bum ass scrubs like David Wilson


No, but you let Peyton go by twice.

And who wouldn't draft the starting RB for a playoff team, and Super Bowl contender?

You got lucky getting LeSean McCoy. He's the shit. I had him last year, and really wanted to draft him, but took Lynch instead. I think you got LeSean a few picks later. That worked out for both of us, but had I taken Wilson, whom I got in the third round, instead of Lynch I'd hang myself.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,12:24
LeSean has been on fire this season.  I was writing the Eagles off as sputtering nothingness for offense this year, too.  Peyton is setting an ungodly pace.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,12:28
LeSean's only danger is Michael Vick. Vick's passing numbers have been steadily declining. That means defenses won't have to respect the pass as strongly.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,12:28
i got McCoy in the second round. I was the 11th pick so he was the 14th overall pick.  

I did pass on a qb in my first two picks, but i got two running backs that don't share any time.  Sure the league isn't a RB league anymore but this is fantasy football and you've gotta start 2 of them every week.  So maybe i passed on Payton, but i'm not scrambling for another RB right now cause everyone else is splitting time, thats huge!

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,12:32
When other teams are fighting over getting Bilel Powell or whoever he is, then i know i'm good at RB.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,12:47
Until one or both of your guys gets hurt.

I love McCoy, I think he's the best player on your team, but I'm not sold on Trent. Based on how you feel about the trade, neither are you  :D

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,13:06
Trent will do ok in Indy.  I'm just not sure he's the  Edge, Jr. that Indy seems to be looking for.  He's not platooning, though, and Ahmad might need season-ending surgery.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,13:15
im not totally sold on Trent as a franchise 3rd overall pick.  If you take a RB that high he should be a breakaway threat everytime he touches the ball.  He's no AP thats for sure.

But as a fantasy RB and my number 2 RB at that, im fine with it.  He will be ok for getting consistent points each week.  

As far as injuries go, well every team deals with that.  My only solace in that is i've got Bryce Brown incase McCoy does get injured and Ben Tate incase Arien Foster gets injured.  Both of those guys will get the lion share of the running duties if either one gets injured.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,13:33
Yeah, those backups are solid as both of their starters can be injury prone.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,17:36
Cleveland's awesome defense is already showing.

Let's see.  Thus far:

1) defensive pass interference penalty from their top man in the secondary that results in an easy 1-yd score

2) QB that seems to have some talent pays for a meaningless first down by getting hurt



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2013,17:54
Hoyer's out already, eh?  Good thing I picked him up in fantasy... admittedly my 4th string QB, but stilll...
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,18:09
It's a "leg injury."  On the flip side, Weeden at QB makes Willis McMaybe even more of a waste.


Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,18:19
I was excited to see Hoyer, but tune in to see Wheedon.

Fuck is he bad.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,18:22

(Leisher @ Oct. 03 2013,20:19)
QUOTE
I was excited to see Hoyer, but tune in to see Wheedon.

Fuck is he bad.

He looks like he throws in slow motion.

HAHA.  Chris Ogboy-a-something, the only member of their backfield that can catch anything besides VD, is out now.



Posted by Stranger on Oct. 03 2013,18:50
Only in fucking Cleveland!!
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,19:27
Word on Hoyer is he needs an MRI to make sure something with -CL hasn't been torn in his knee.

Good news is the Buffalo Moo Cows are just as incompetent as the Cleveland Bowel Movements tonight and their rookie QB decided to take a run against a gang of 6'+, 300+ lb. mutants that grapple with people for a living.  Looks like he'll be gone for a bit.

EDIT: That last pass interference penalty just made this the most entertaining game I've watched in a bit.  I'm halfway expecting Jim Brown to make a return.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2013,20:21
Jesus.  The 4th quarter has been the story of which offense wants it less.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2013,21:51
Honestly, I know the Browns won, but they now have a QB controversy...because they need that.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 04 2013,06:30
Doesn't look like there will be any QB controversy. Word is Hoyer is likely out for the season...

I've never been so depressed after a 3 game win streak and leading the division.  Weeden will fall flat on his face, he's slow to make decisions, has no feel for the pass rush and he's a ginger no red headed QB can be any good.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 04 2013,06:45
That sucks. I thought Hoyer was giving the team a fresh feel. Wheedon is just same old, same old.

Watching him in the pocket was painful. As you said, he simply has no awareness. He can't hit the tougher routes, and when he scrambles I was having Kosar flashbacks with his "blazing" speed. Did you see the play where he went to scramble, ran into his blocker's back, and seemed to just get stuck there like bad AI?

OIC!

You know with Cleveland in first place, and a QB down... Paging Josh Freeman!!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2013,07:04
QUOTE
Wheedon is just same old, same old.

It's like Kurt Warner's pocket presence minus his accuracy and release speed.  That leaves you with a QB somewhere in the Antwaan Randle-El region.

QUOTE
You know with Cleveland in first place, and a QB down... Paging Josh Freeman!

So they don't want to stay in first?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2013,07:47
QUOTE
Wide receiver Davone Bess was the team's emergency quarterback had Weeden gotten hurt because Jason Campbell was inactive.

That would've been fawesome.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2013,08:05
My fantasy team:
4 players Out
5 players Questionable
2 players Probable
2 others on Bye

If I get half the points of my opponent, it's a miracle.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2013,08:14

(TheCatt @ Oct. 04 2013,10:05)
QUOTE
My fantasy team:
4 players Out
5 players Questionable
2 players Probable
2 others on Bye

If I get half the points of my opponent, it's a miracle.

What beat-ass players do you have?
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 04 2013,09:10
Its official. Hoyer out for season... NOOOOOOOOO

I wouldn't be surprised if Freeman is brought in now. OUR SEASON IS RUINED!

I swear to god, you couldn't write a movie script any better than the life of a Cleveland fan.  Its pure drama all the time!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2013,11:55
< Giants lose > Pro Bowl member of their o-line.  I'm sure their depth will make up for it.  HAHAHAHA
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 06 2013,12:28
My 4 players out got upgraded to 7 players out.  F me.  I have 8 WRs... 1 is questionable, 1 is clean, the rest are out or bye week.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 06 2013,13:20
David Wilson scored and then went out for the game.

I'd take Shown Greene over him at this point.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2013,14:12
QUOTE
My 4 players out got upgraded to 7 players out.  F me.  I have 8 WRs... 1 is questionable, 1 is clean, the rest are out or bye week.

I'm down Jennings in 2 leagues and Tony Brown in standard.  On the flip side, picking up Austin Pettis to replace Brown has made me look brilliant.  Ray Rice finally got his ass in gear.  Kind of pissed Lynch didn't get a TD.

QUOTE
David Wilson scored and then went out for the game.

I'd take Shown Greene over him at this point.

I was shocked Willis McMaybe avoided the injury fairy Thursday night.  But his chance at the second rush TD from the goal line was painful to watch.  Goddamn, he's old, slow, and out of practice.  But he managed one TD and 60, so I'll take it ... even if he needed 20 carries to do it.

If you're not talking keeper, then Wilson and Greene are equally worthless at this point.  Wilson's worth stowing on your bench for another season until he proves he's really worthless, like say Daniel Thomas ... who is someone I'd take over Wilson right about now.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 06 2013,17:07
Unless some scoring correction screws me over, I just went to 4-1 in the league with Stranger after winning 86-85.

I was down 14 with Peyton and Larry Fitzgerald to go. He had Carson Palmer, Demaryus Thomas, and Prader.

The only double digit scorers I had besides Peyton were Lynch and Tucker. A miracle win.

Looks like I should go to 4-1 in my work league as well. I'm playing the last of the undefeateds, and I'm up 5 points. He has Arian Foster to go, while I have Phillip Rivers, Ryan Matthews, Antonio Gates, and Frank Gore.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2013,18:55
Standard league:
Fucked yet again.  Defense got -3 points.  Going against Peyton, too.  Limited claims is fucking killing me in this league.  Plus a shitty draft.  Got to do more homework next year.  Tied for last in div.  Fuck me.  Fucked my RBs this year big time.

PPR league:
Probably going to win.  Owen Daniels + Woodhead + Stephen Hill vs. Matt Ryan + Rashad Jennings + Julio Jones and I'm up 110.8 to 66.1.  Marlon Brown has been a decent pick up.  Greg Jennings also looks to be a steal while someone besides Ponder is throwing.  Will be in a 3-way tie for first in div by this week's end, barring a miracle.  Betting I'm 3rd on the tiebreaker, so getting Gronk back is going to be huge for me.  Might allow me to cut loose a WR along with Rice and get a huge deal going.  Can run with Daniels and Gronk for the remainder.  Just waiting for Gore to get hurt, too.  If Roddy White ever comes back to life, I'll have considerable trade bait.

I get Gronk back in both leagues next week.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2013,20:36
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Vikings signed Freeman to a 1-year deal.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2013,20:58
To support Leish's argument from a bit ago:
Jaguars may as well sign Tebow now because he will fill seats.  Shit, I'd sign a transsexual midget to Jacksonville right about now if I thought he had a chance of reviving any fan interest.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,07:18
Woodhead comes through again.  He's the new Sproles over there.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2013,07:57

(Malcolm @ Oct. 06 2013,23:36)
QUOTE
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Vikings signed Freeman to a 1-year deal.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

When I heard the news, I couldn't wait to see this blow up.

He's making more than Ponder and Cassell combined! You never know, maybe they know something we don't know?

Although, do you see what's happening to Pryor in Oakland? He's being coached by the guy who coached Freeman to good seasons. Call me crazy, but maybe that's who teams should be going for, instead of the QBs he's making look good.

On a different note, what couldn't the Steelers ask from the Texans in return for Big Ben?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,08:02
< Buffalo starts another scrub >.

QUOTE
He's making more than Ponder and Cassell combined!

More what?  Turnovers?

QUOTE
On a different note, what couldn't the Steelers ask from the Texans in return for Big Ben?

Foster.  Andre Johnson.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2013,08:15
QUOTE
More what?  Turnovers?


Money. They were talking about it on Mike and Mike this morning.

And c'mon, he'd have to work hard to turn the ball over more than Ponder.

QUOTE
Foster.  Andre Johnson.


Why would they want them? The Steelers don't need veteran help. They need young players.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,08:33
QUOTE
And c'mon, he'd have to work hard to turn the ball over more than Ponder.

Freeman looks like he's up to the challenge.  Word is it'll be a three-way competition.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,08:36
< Broncos trash-tweeting the Jags >.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 07 2013,09:58
QUOTE
The #Broncos' 51 points in yesterday's win are as many points as the Jaguars have scored all season.

LOL

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,11:23
< Gabbert's > starting career probably over.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2013,13:05
Someone please explain to me right now why Jacksonville doesn't immediately sign Tebow.

Your "golden boy" is gone for the year.

You're the worst team in the NFL.

Your attendance sucks.

Your fan base has showed some life every time Tebow is discussed.

Sign him to a one year deal. Let him boost your ratings and merchandise sales. If he does well enough, great, bring him back. If not, let him go when you sign your new franchise QB, and folks will accept it.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,13:20
QUOTE
Your "golden boy" is gone for the year.

They had one?  The only dudes with a future on that offense are Cecil Shorts and maybe Justin Blackmon.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2013,14:02

(Malcolm @ Oct. 07 2013,16:20)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Your "golden boy" is gone for the year.

They had one?  The only dudes with a future on that offense are Cecil Shorts and maybe Justin Blackmon.

< Read this. >

You'll see how insane they are in Jacksonville.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 07 2013,14:15
< LOL >

QUOTE
Rick’s Cabaret airs every NFL game, but the Giants have apparently been killing the mood every time the club televises their game. New York is 0-5, and as a result of that dismal start, the strip club has decided to stop airing Giants games.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,15:44
How bad are the Giants?  They're bad enough to kill the mood of men in strip clubs getting lap dances.  You also consider the alternative is the Jets.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,15:55

(Leisher @ Oct. 07 2013,16:02)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 07 2013,16:20)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Your "golden boy" is gone for the year.

They had one?  The only dudes with a future on that offense are Cecil Shorts and maybe Justin Blackmon.

< Read this. >

You'll see how insane they are in Jacksonville.

There are some awesome quotes in there.

QUOTE
The most famous Jaguar ever? Fragile Freddie Taylor, who murdered more than 34.8 million fantasy seasons from 1999 through 2009.

OMFG.  "Everyone set your Fred Taylor injury beepers to standby."  I managed to avoid him completely.

QUOTE
Gabbert has played so poorly that the Madden video game sarcastically included a "Blaine Gabbert Legacy Award" for this year's game. The joke was that you have to work hard and earn tons of points to qualify for different Legacy awards — Elway, Sanders, Marino, etc. — but for Gabbert's Legacy Award, you need to earn only two points. Now that's just mean.


QUOTE
It is a results league and we're trying to stay away from that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2013,19:07
If you like sports, you should be reading Bill Simmons' columns. He's hilarious and brings a lot of pop culture into them.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,19:34
Damn...

Is it the Jets D making Atlanta look bad or is it Matt Ryan?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2013,19:47
Dude, wtf?  Owen Daniels is getting his leg MRI'd.  Fortunately, much like the Jurassic Park scene where T-Rex stomps and make the water ripple, Gronk is scheduled to come back this week.  I think Brady will be ecstatic.  I'm almost expecting a multi-TD week.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2013,11:06
< Julio no longer > down by the schoolyard.
QUOTE
NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Tuesday, per a team source, that the Falcons have "legitimate concern" that wide receiver Julio Jones will miss the season with a foot injury.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 08 2013,11:24
I surrender.  I'm holding out for my fantasy league's top pick next year.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2013,11:25

(TheCatt @ Oct. 08 2013,13:24)
QUOTE
I surrender.  I'm holding out for my fantasy league's top pick next year.

I don't know of any league that works that way.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 08 2013,11:26
It's how ours works.  It's a keeper league, and worst team gets first pick.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 08 2013,11:35
That's awesome.

If you guys allow trades, you should examine your lineup and make a "you can't turn this down" trade right now to fill a gap with a guy you can keep for next year.

Also, I dare you to start as many Jacksonville players as possible in the same week.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 08 2013,13:08
lololol... I'll just rename my team the Jaguars, although, we did win 1 game.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 09 2013,14:24
Gee, guess who goes against Peyton this week?  Fucking hell.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 09 2013,17:52
PPR league:
Team is on the upswing, I hope.  Gronk is back, Ray Rice is Ray Rice again, and is looks like Seattle is ramping up Wilson and Lynch.  Only negative is losing Daniels.  Will be a goddamn slugfest this week.

Me:
QB: Wilson
RBs:  Lynch at Titans.  Tough.  Woodhead at Indy and Rice at GB.  Not bad.  Because both those dudes are currently clear top dogs, and they're reception beasts.
WRs: Welker at Jag-off-ville/New Detroit.  Problem is the passing game will be bright, but short.  I expect Peyton to ring up 4-5 scores, it's just a matter of Welker beating out Decker and T&T for the targets and routes.  Thinking Jennings at Carolina if Cassel starts, otherwise Marlon Brown at GB.
TE: Gronk.  At NO.  I fully expect a QB sling-fest.

Enemy:
QB: Fucking Peyton playing the fucking Jags.  Fucking fuck me.
RBs: Law Firm at Buffalo.  He might get a couple TDs.  Gore at Arizona.  Fuck.
WRs: Amendola at NO.  Damn.  Austin Pettis at Houston.  I expect Houston to take out its frustration on the Rams.  St. Louis receivers are a gamble any given week.  Doubt he'll get a multi-score game again.  Hankerson at Dallas.  Hanky's been quiet and he seems due for another score.
TE: Vernon Davis at Arizona.  Random.

Standard league:
FUCKED

Decent WRs, decent TE, shitty RBs, shitty QBs.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 10 2013,20:25
Wow, turnovers killed Giants again.  They look fucking awful.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2013,07:19
Was also going against the Bears D.  Goddamnit.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2013,11:10
< Steelers not playing games > anymore.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 11 2013,11:15
Knock Knock...

                        Who's there?

Owen..

                         Owen who?

0-4 You inbread, no teeth having stupid mother fucker!  HAHAHAHA

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2013,11:17
QUOTE
You inbread

Like inside a doughy, starchy food item processed from grain?

Knock knock.
  ... Who's there?

The Cleveland Browns.
  ... Sorry, the toilet's down the hall, take your shit there.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 11 2013,12:21
The skins are 1 Nd 4 and have been the cellar of the nfc east for 20 years, and im still glad im not a Browns fan.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 11 2013,12:36
Skins blow too!  RG3 is already a washed up hobbled bum.  Have fun sucking for the next 20 years after giving up all those picks to get him.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2013,12:42

(Stranger @ Oct. 11 2013,14:36)
QUOTE
Skins blow too!  RG3 is already a washed up hobbled bum.  Have fun sucking for the next 20 years after giving up all those picks to get him.

RG3's unborn grandchildren are better QBs than Weeden, and you got that human/sloth hybrid until the season's end.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 11 2013,12:43

(Malcolm @ Oct. 11 2013,15:42)
QUOTE
Weeden, and you got that human/sloth hybrid until the season's end.

Unfortunantly you are correct...

Thanks for reminding me,  our season is fucked!

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 11 2013,13:31
lololololololololoololol
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 13 2013,10:32
How much money would it take for you to accept a reality where your favorite sports team becomes replaced with the Cleveland team?  

So for me, the Redskins would become the Browns.  They'd stay in DC, be the Redskins, etc, but really, they'd "be" the Browns.

I'm thinking half a million or so.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2013,16:51
Dude.  I'm from the town with the football team that's never won a title, the baseball team that hasn't been shit since Kirby Puckett played, the thugball team that no one cares about, and the hockey team that's got an offense which may be charitably described as shit.

To quote the immortal Al Bundy, "Like I'd notice."

EDIT: Then again, the Vikes haven't been dim enough to trade away their top RB.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2013,18:00
PPR league:
In spite of going against Vernon Davis and his 41-point game, I think I may win.  Woodhead needs to outscore Hankerson.  There is literally no one else the opponent could have had at TE this week even to be in it.

Standard:
Still completely fucked.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2013,18:03
Cassel has just made up the coaches' minds.  Nothing official yet, but the vibe is in the air.

To quote one of my league opponents:
QUOTE
What the hell are you talking about. I always wanted a QB with ADHD who happens to be in stage 1 of the NFL's drug program and was recently cut from an 0-4 team for playing like shit. This is awesome.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 13 2013,20:33
Was Dal
Total Yards 430 223

Too bad we settled for 4 FG attempts, and our special teams can't cover worth a damn.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 14 2013,07:14
State of my fantasy team:
I'm lamenting having cut Nick Foles at the start of the season.

Fucking Eli or Fucking Schaub,.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 14 2013,08:12
My kingdom for a QB!!!  

I would seriously consider Vince Young or Brett Favre at this point.  

Weeden pulled one of the all time bonehead INT's yesterday.  I've never seen someone process the game so slowly.  

I really think Cleveland dropped the ball by not getting Josh Freeman, he might not have looked good in Tampa but their coach is just a complete dipshit and will be fired.  

At this point i think that Cleveland will once again finish in the cellar and the Steelers will have more wins than them.

Such is life in Cleveland, I don't wanna hear about how bad life is in Minnesota.  This city has suffered some 180 straight seasons without a championship of any kind!!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2013,08:19
Trade you Freeman for Hoyer, straight up, right now.


Posted by Stranger on Oct. 14 2013,08:26
Nah, thats cool...

I can suffer another year of losing.  I'm plenty used to it

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 14 2013,08:48

(Stranger @ Oct. 14 2013,11:12)
QUOTE
I would seriously consider Vince Young or Brett Favre at this point.  

LOL

Saw today Vince is ready to get back in the game.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2013,09:07
Favre's officially retired.  Shit, I'm surprised the Browns didn't get on the Matt Flynn bandwagon.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2013,10:41
< Bob Costas > and "Redskin."

QUOTE
"Ask yourself what the equivalent would be, if directed toward African-Americans,
Hispanics, Asians, or members of any other ethnic group. When considered that way,
'Redskins' can’t possibly honor a heritage, or a noble character trait, nor can it possibly
be considered a neutral term. It’s an insult, a slur, no matter how benign the present-day intent."

Yes, Bob, every time someone says "Redskin" they're out to rub it in the face of every member of that minority.

< How Racist is your Sports Team >: a definitive guide.

< Really offensive team names. >  Note the second to last one on the list.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 14 2013,11:28
I've never read the Onion sports before.  I have been missing something.
QUOTE

Philadelphia Eagles: At 2-3, Philadelphia looks poised to run away with the NFC East
Dallas Cowboys: The reeling Cowboys have plummeted to the top of the NFC East standings


And that last link is INSANE.  I've been to CMU several times, I'm guessing that person has not.

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 14 2013,13:37
QUOTE
Central Michigan Chippewas, University of Utah Utes and Florida State Seminoles (Division I): These three Division I teams are named after Native American tribes indigenous to their regions, and have received those tribes’ official permission. Does that really mean we shouldn’t care?

Yeah, that right there is enough to know this is not a reasonable article, but someone with an ax to grind.  And very condescending, too.  "We've got to protect these poor innocent natives from letting themselves be exploited by the white man."

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 14 2013,19:06
I started the night down 10 points.

I have Vinatieri, E. Weddle (DB), and J. Freeman (LB)
He has Luck.

I'm currently up 2 points.  I don't expect to win, but still.... a lot closer than I thought it would be.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2013,19:20
IDP?  Yeah, Luck pretty much has to get injured or you need a couple defensive scores.  San Diego's secondary looks considerably less shitty than I remember.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2013,19:40
Jerrell Freeman -- concussed -- gone for the night.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 14 2013,20:38

(TheCatt @ Oct. 14 2013,22:06)
QUOTE
I started the night down 10 points.

I have Vinatieri, E. Weddle (DB), and J. Freeman (LB)
He has Luck.

I'm currently up 2 points.  I don't expect to win, but still.... a lot closer than I thought it would be.

I was up 22 and against Luck. Looks like I'm hanging on easily for the win.

I'm now 5-1 in one league, and 4-2 in the other.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 15 2013,04:19
Wow... so Freeman got 7 before he went out, Weddle got 6, and Vinatieri got 15.  Luck had 8.

I'm 2-4 now... still worst in the league, since all the other 1-4 teams won too.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2013,07:08
I just secured first in my PPR div with my win.  Everyone else lost.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 17 2013,21:13
Holy shit.  Know anyone that wants to be on an o-line in the NFL?  I think Arizona might be hiring.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2013,07:05
PPR league:
Dude is offering me Steve Smith, Ben Tate, and Joique Bell for Woodhead.  Looking to dish off Ray Rice before trade deadline in a month, so maybe I'll counteroffer.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 18 2013,07:31
He's a 2nd RB at best, but he has occasional upside and is reliable. Depends what your bench is.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2013,07:41
Bench ain't that great.  Problem is Rice and Woodhead have the same bye in week 8.  I'd like to split them, and I really ain't keeping Ray next season.  I badly need a reliable #2 WR.

Counteroffered with Rice + Marlon Brown/Roddy White in exchange for Antonio Brown + Joique Bell.  He occasionally vultures a TD while Tate's only useful when Foster's down.

EDIT: Offered him Rice + Roddy for Ogbonnaya + Brown.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2013,10:49
< Dumb-ass > says Vikings needs to fuck up the same way the Browns did.  < Someone a bit more sane > weighs in.


Posted by Stranger on Oct. 18 2013,13:09
The Browns may be fuck ups, but i'd have to say the Trent Richardson trade was a good move.  He did finally avg 4 yards a carry in the last game 10 rushes for 40 yards! WOW!

If the Browns could get a 1st for him then the Vikings could easily get more than that cause Trent is no AP.  And i'd have to say AP isn't having the same year as last year. Amazing athlete and running back, but the Vikings aren't winning with him.  I'd have to say i kinda agree with the article, AP is getting high in miles and his trade value is prolly as high as it will be.  

The Vikings are in the same situation as the Browns, they are forever in search of their franchise QB.  Without one you ain't shit!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2013,19:41
If the Vikes had someone who didn't turn the ball over and could reliably throw a completion on third and not short, they'd be destroying the div right now.  Eventually Cordarelle Patterson will realize he can catch, but it ain't happening unless a decent QB is throwing.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2013,17:29
Dealt Ray Rice + Marlon Brown for Le'Veon Bell and Colston.

Bell is now the dude in 'Burgh, and I think he's better than he's been given a chance to prove.  Plus, he's got a week 12 match at Cleveland when Lynch is on bye.  Colston is just someone I need for a WR upgrade.

In a really interesting twist, someone's offering me Roddy White for Fred Jackson.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2013,18:55
PPR league:
Reggie Wayne versus Welker + Jennings v. NYG.  I'm up by 8.

Come the fuck on, Wes.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2013,21:01
Reggie Wayne's out and Welker's done enough damage regardless of the outcome now.  Even got Jennings to go Monday in the hope I can minimize the points scored difference between me and the dude in second place.  I'm in first for another week, but I'm -60 points behind the closest competitor.  Might be another -30 in store this week unless Jennings lights it up.  If things go as I think, I'll be tied for top record in the league.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2013,08:16
Wow.  Doug Martin, Sam Bradford, Reggie Wayne, 3 DBs for Indy, Jay Cutler, Nick Foles ... just a few of the many fun injuries this week.  Still 1 game to go, too.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 21 2013,09:32
I got to see Jay Cutler go down in person.  Sadly, McCown really helped Chicago step up their O.  Great game, and was excellent to see RG3 being last year's RG3 again.  Washington is certainly mediocre... winning the division isn't outside the question, but certainly unlikely.  Impossible in any other division in the league.
QUOTE
Over the next four weeks, Washington will face Denver, San Diego, Minnesota and Philly, teams that currently rank 32nd, 25th, 29th and 31st against the pass.

That could be fun.  Sure, our D won't seal the deal (cept maybe against the Vikings), but our O will get to have some fun.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2013,10:10
With Martin out for the season, I'm thinking of trying to vulture Mike James from the waiver wire.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 21 2013,10:21
We knocked Sam Bradford out for the year :(

Wasn't on purpose or a dirty play, feel really bad for the guy.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2013,10:46

(Troy @ Oct. 21 2013,12:21)
QUOTE
We knocked Sam Bradford out for the year :(

Wasn't on purpose or a dirty play, feel really bad for the guy.

He'd been getting pummeled all season.  The Rams have never protected him.  Surprised he lasted this long without problems.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 21 2013,11:39
Barring a 40 point night out of Brandon Jacobs, I'm going to 5-2 in my work league.

In my family/friends league my WRs got me a whole 7 fucking points this week. Anyone remember Larry Fitzgerald? Me either.

I still lead by 2, but he has Rueben Randle going tonight. I need Rueben to be held to 0 or 1 point, which has happened twice this year, or I'll be falling to 5-2 in that league.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2013,11:49
If Randle starts dropping and fumbling, his ass will get benched.  But all it'd take is 1 20-yarder, and it ain't like Eli's not throwing it tonight.


Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 21 2013,18:55
QUOTE
Tonight's game features the Vikings vs Giants, with combined winning percentage of .090%, makes it the worst MNF game in its 44 year history.

Apparently there was an 0-4 vs 0-4 game... so we'll say worse with at least 9 games decided.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 21 2013,18:59

(Malcolm @ Oct. 06 2013,23:36)
QUOTE
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Vikings signed Freeman to a 1-year deal.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

So... how's that working out?
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 21 2013,19:03
I was wondering what happened to Peyton Hillis.

Overheard at the Skins-Bears game yesterday: "Apparently Cade has a brother"
Cade McNown
Josh McCown

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2013,20:16

(TheCatt @ Oct. 21 2013,20:55)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Tonight's game features the Vikings vs Giants, with combined winning percentage of .090%, makes it the worst MNF game in its 44 year history.

Apparently there was an 0-4 vs 0-4 game... so we'll say worse with at least 9 games decided.

Oh my effing god, that hurts.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2013,20:17

(TheCatt @ Oct. 21 2013,20:59)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 06 2013,23:36)
QUOTE
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

Vikings signed Freeman to a 1-year deal.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

So... how's that working out?

It's making me long for the days of T-Jack.

EDIT: Goddamn, if he does this for another couple weeks, I'll replace "T-Jack" with "Joe Webb."



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2013,21:08
Fuck it.  Just fuck it and put Cassel in until the end of the season.  Having a chance to win is better than no chance.  Dish off everyone except AP for the most immediate return you can get inside five years and call it a season.

EDIT: We'll be making catheter tubes out of cactus before Josh Freeman is a viable QB.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2013,21:24
The Rams:
Only have Kellen Clemons on the roster.  They're talking to Brady Quinn and ... *gasp * Greg McElroy.  No word on whether or not Marc Bulger is being coaxed out of retirement, since he was the last QB that could throw under pressure there.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 21 2013,22:44
I think that was the worst MNF game i've seen.

Vikings had what seemed like the worst play calling with a week-on-the-team QB. I don't think he's any good, but I've seen him be competent occasionally, but it was like 55 long developing pass plays... really?

I don't care how bad AD is getting smoked by their run D, throw more than one(1) screen to him and see what happens.

I want my 3 hours back.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 22 2013,06:06
It was an embarrassment to the NFL.

I don't get what the Vikings are doing. Let's get a guy who got cut by another team, pay him more than our other two QBs combined, start him right away further destroying those two QBs, and preferably before he's even remotely acclimated to the offensive system.

Ponder and Cassell were probably laughing at that display last night. It was like Freeman had never played a game before.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 22 2013,06:53
Yep, i'm saying it now.. never thought i would but....

I WANT TEBOW!



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 22 2013,07:12
Gay.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,07:16
QUOTE
I think that was the worst MNF game i've seen.

That game was exciting as watching preseason WNBA matches.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,07:18

(Stranger @ Oct. 22 2013,08:53)
QUOTE
Yep, i'm saying it now.. never thought i would but....

I WANT TEBOW!

Shit, I'll take Tebow over Josh right about now.  At least everyone would be unfamiliar with the offense, since you'd have to retool it for god-boy.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 22 2013,07:39
Hell, i'll at least give the Vikings credit.  They realized their qb situation sucked and went out and got a young guy with athleticism and a good arm.  Why not give him a shot, you've got nothing to lose.  

Meanwhile in Cleveland, you've got a qb that processes the game slower than an Apple IIe and a backup that has said he's fine being a backup and doesn't want to ruffle any feather!  WTF! what a pussy!

Yeah, gimme Tebow mania running wild!  At least that mother fucker has some heart and will lay it all out on the field, something that the rest of the team will get behind.  Not one man in the Browns locker room has an ounce of faith in Weeden or Cambell, not because they suck, but because they are gutless pussies with no leadership qualities.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,07:51
Unfortunately, the Vikings don't play the Jags this year, so the anti-Super Bowl won't occur.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 22 2013,07:53
10! points down in the 3rd was the defecit at which the Vikings coaching staff stopped running the ball and just called the same 5-6 second passing play over and over. WHHHYYYY???!! you had Adrian Freaking Peterson, GOAT and a danger to take it to the house on every play.

I want the brain cells back , too.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,08:00
Buddy of mine is winless in PPR.  He needed Jerome Simpson to get 10 points last night.  Nope.  Another needed Victor Cruz and Hakeem Nicks to combine for 15 or less.  They got 17.  Just ouch.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 22 2013,08:35
QUOTE
Hell, i'll at least give the Vikings credit.  They realized their qb situation sucked and went out and got a young guy with athleticism and a good arm.  Why not give him a shot, you've got nothing to lose.


I disagree.

1. Again, they're paying him more than their other two QBs. That's not giving him a shot, that's making him your future.
2. The only way this becomes a good move is if they steal away Oakland's offensive coordinator who coached Freeman when he was good. (When he left Freeman became shit.)

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 22 2013,08:47
paying him 3 million for the rest of the year is hardly making him your future.  Thats a 10 game contract, and who cares if he makes more than the two other bums on the bench.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,08:57
Just because 10 losses roll off a Cleveland fan like water off a duck's back is no reason to think it's the same for other teams and cities.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 22 2013,09:27
Do you honestly believe that the Vikings were in a much better position to win this year with either Cassel or Ponder?  i don't.

I'm not touting that Freeman is their savior or will be any good for that matter.  But i don't see anything wrong with taking a risk on a qb for the rest of the year that is young, athletic and has had some success.  To me if i measure the risk vs reward i like it, the Vikings season was done when they started so bad.  So if Freeman blows then so be it, move on get another QB in the draft.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 22 2013,09:29
QUOTE
Coach Leslie Frazier said he considered taking out Freeman, but that the score was close enough for him to stick with his new QB.

He wanted to make sure his team lost?

Ponder > Freeman for MN this year.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,09:38
< Vikings owner > weighs in.
QUOTE
"I'm sticking with my team," Wilf said after the game, per The Star Tribune. "That's our team. We're going to stick with it."


Posted by Leisher on Oct. 22 2013,09:45
QUOTE
Do you honestly believe that the Vikings were in a much better position to win this year with either Cassel or Ponder?  i don't.


If the Vikings agreed with you, then why didn't they do something during the draft or in free agency already?

Why sign a guy who gets cut during the season, and immediately have him start even though he was clearly not ready?

What message are you sending your team? Those other two guys are so bad, we couldn't wait one more week during this losing season. We're fucked if they ever enter a game again, so just quit playing if that happens. Oh btw, we've quit on the season, so you should too.

Outside of a castoff, what free agent will want to go to Minnesota after seeing this whole fiasco go down?

Why have a guy who has one week of practice under his belt, after weeks of not playing, who got kicked off his former team, throw the ball 50 times in his first game? When it was obvious he couldn't complete a pass even if all the Giants fell down dead, why have him keep throwing? Why keep him in risking injury as he was getting pounded?

If I was the Vikings owner, I'd be replacing people today. Not players, but coaches and executives. There's no way someone could watch that game last night and think "we're on the right track".

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,09:50
QUOTE
Why keep him in risking injury as he was getting pounded?

I was waiting for that.  I assume the Giants' pass rushers just stopped giving a shit after they figured he throws just as bad with or without the pressure.



Posted by Stranger on Oct. 22 2013,09:52
Look, i'm not saying Freeman is the answer nor the front office and coaching staff are competent at all!! I didn't even know who Leslie Frasier was before he got hired. And i'm sure there will be sweeping changes in front office and coaching in the offseason.

But taking a flyer on a QB in a QB league when you have no QB is worth it! don't construe my words in any other way.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,09:52
QUOTE
Do you honestly believe that the Vikings were in a much better position to win this year with either Cassel or Ponder?  i don't.

Hell, yes.  Cassel would have had a chance to win.  Freeman's about a month away from getting to Cassel-level based on what I saw last night.  That shit wasn't exactly a confidence booster.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 22 2013,10:10
QUOTE
Look, i'm not saying Freeman is the answer nor the front office and coaching staff are competent at all!! I didn't even know who Leslie Frasier was before he got hired. And i'm sure there will be sweeping changes in front office and coaching in the offseason.

But taking a flyer on a QB in a QB league when you have no QB is worth it! don't construe my words in any other way.


I'm not. I actually disagree with exactly what you're saying.

Look, I get it, your team is terrible so why not take a flier on this kid.

The problem is that the negatives outweighed the positives. You can't just consider it a no harm test run in week 7. You've got to take into account everything else it affects.

1. You destroyed both of your other QBs, and your team's confidence in them. Now, if Freeman fails, you need three new QBs next year.
2. Matt Cassell went 11-5 in New England. Josh Freeman never came close to that record. They never gave him a real chance, yet now they're overpaying for someone they just want to kick the tires on?
3. If you want to grab him now to avoid a bidding war, you needed to sign him to a long term deal, not a one year contract.
4. You announced to the world that your season was officially over. Now your fans can stop buying your merchandise, not attend your games, etc.
5. Was Freeman going to become their superstar? The overwhelming odds suggested no.
6. Last night was the worst test drive I've ever seen. It was like going to a car dealership to see how smoothly a luxury car drives, then taking it up to 90 on an unpaved country road. They're fucking him out of the gate.

The Vikings should have rode the season out, and dumped their QBs after the season. Draft 1 or 2, and sign someone like Freeman. Make it an open competition for the job. This strategy kind of worked well in Washington.

As it is, their grabbing of Freeman looks like a desperate act.

By the way, I agree with Tebow to Cleveland. That makes sense. Campbell IS a pussy, and Wheedon sucks. Your true starter is out for the year. Bring in Tim and sell some jerseys!



Posted by Stranger on Oct. 22 2013,10:41
So lets take a look at the alternate situation.. Oh look, it just so happens to be Cleveland!

You stick to your shitty QB.. and you continue to lose.  What does that tell the rest of your team?! We're not going to go out and help you guys, we'll wait for next year.  So go ahead and throw in the towel for this season.

To me doing nothing is throwing in the towel way more than trying to see if something will work.  Whats the worst that can happen? you lose?

I am the sultan of suck! nobody has seen more inept QB play than I!  I'm just sick and tired of seeing my team be ok with total shit play at QB!
 
oh yeah,  Freeman was 10-6 in 2010, thats pretty close to 11-5.  Still, not saying Freeman is some great qb, but he did have that for one season, just like Cassel who was with the Patriots, not the Buccs.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2013,10:44
QUOTE
You stick to your shitty QB.. and you continue to lose.  What does that tell the rest of your team?! We're not going to go out and help you guys, we'll wait for next year.  So go ahead and throw in the towel for this season.

The Vikes just inked a deal for a new stadium.  No one is terribly happy about that considering how much they've been sucking.  In the short term, Cassel is a better starting choice than Freeman for at least few weeks.  Long term, none of the 3 scrubs are viable solution.  Josh Freeman's new name may as well be Jason Campbell, Jr.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 22 2013,10:51

(Stranger @ Oct. 22 2013,13:41)
QUOTE
So lets take a look at the alternate situation.. Oh look, it just so happens to be Cleveland!

You stick to your shitty QB.. and you continue to lose.  What does that tell the rest of your team?! We're not going to go out and help you guys, we'll wait for next year.  So go ahead and throw in the towel for this season.

To me doing nothing is throwing in the towel way more than trying to see if something will work.  Whats the worst that can happen? you lose?

I am the sultan of suck! nobody has seen more inept QB play than I!  I'm just sick and tired of seeing my team be ok with total shit play at QB!
 
oh yeah,  Freeman was 10-6 in 2010, thats pretty close to 11-5.  Still, not saying Freeman is some great qb, but he did have that for one season, just like Cassel who was with the Patriots, not the Buccs.

I'm betting you wrote all that while I was adding the edit to my post.

I agree with you about Cleveland, but it's a different situation. There's no QB competition there because the best QB is out for the season, and the backup doesn't want to play. If I were in Cleveland, I'd cut Jason Campbell and sign Tebow.

Tell the fans quite simply:
"Jason made it clear he didn't want the starter's job, so we felt he wasn't providing the proper competition to push our starter. Tim Tebow might not be Peyton Manning, but you can damn sure bet he'll push Wheedon or take his job. Now go buy a Tebow jersey!"

I would also have approved of Freeman to Cleveland. You guys already pulled the trigger on Wheedon. He was gone. Campbell is just collecting a paycheck and needs to be cut. My backup QBs should be itching for a chance to start, not content to sit on the pine.

The more I think about it, the more I think Tebow is perfect for Cleveland. No, he's not the best, but neither are they. However, the fans don't quit on the team, and neither would he.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 22 2013,17:49
QUOTE
Here's a new wrinkle in the Browns' curious quarterback conundrum: Former NFL starter Jeff Garcia called and offered his services.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 23 2013,07:27
Good ol' Jeff Garcia.

Doesn't he have a smoking hot wife?


E: < yes
>

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 23 2013,07:54
....And the Jason Campbell era has begun, oh Joy!


Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 23 2013,07:58

(Stranger @ Oct. 23 2013,10:54)
QUOTE
....And the Jason Campbell era has begun, oh Joy!

We had one of those once.  I don't recommend it.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 23 2013,08:14

(TheCatt @ Oct. 23 2013,10:58)
QUOTE
We had one of those once.  I don't recommend it.

HAHAHA!!

Initial reaction in Cleveland...  Thank God! anything has gotta be better than Weeden!  

On another note.. Jeff Garcia?! NO! just NO! but his wife is pretty hot.  

Kinda why i'm hoping the Browns draft AJ Mccarron, cause when he starts blowing the TV cameras can pan on over to his hot ass woman.  Better than watching the crap on the field.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 23 2013,10:27
< Just fuck me >.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 23 2013,10:48

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 24 2013,09:06
QUOTE
St. Louis called Brett Favre, asking if the 44-year-old QB if he would be willing to play. Favre declined. More to story on ESPN all day.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 24 2013,10:30
GOOOOO PANTHERS!!!! Thursday Night Football finally good for something!!!

^^^ More story on ESPN all week, and before every Rams game for the rest of the season, they are the worst



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 24 2013,10:31

(Troy @ Oct. 24 2013,12:30)
QUOTE
GOOOOO PANTHERS!!!! Thursday Night Football finally good for something!!!

^^^ More story on ESPN all week, and before every Rams game for the rest of the season, they are the worst

STL > JAC, STL > CLE
Posted by Troy on Oct. 24 2013,10:39
They = ESPN

It was an ESPN is the worst post, not the Rams. I still feel bad for screwing over their season.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 24 2013,11:00
< Vince Young pissed >.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 24 2013,12:10
< Life gets better for the Bucs >.
QUOTE
"How bad is it there? It's worse than you can imagine," one NFL player who spent 2012 with the Bucs recently told Silver. "It's like being in Cuba."

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 24 2013,19:31
PPR league:
Holy fuck.  One team has a line of -108 for his matchup this week.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 25 2013,08:29
Happy for the win. Hope nobody caught MRSA.

Yay Cam!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2013,10:27

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 27 2013,15:50
Riding the pine on my fantasy team
QUOTE
M. Jones WR CIN NYJ122Yd4TD 8:12 4th 36

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2013,16:31

(TheCatt @ Oct. 27 2013,17:50)
QUOTE
Riding the pine on my fantasy team
QUOTE
M. Jones WR CIN NYJ122Yd4TD 8:12 4th 36

I picked up Marvin Jones for $1 and started him because Woodhead was on bye and I'm sure as shit not starting Jennings.  I was going to be reduced to Cole Beasley (because again .. Jennings), but Marvin's injury status was upgraded to probable.  My WR2 situation is fucked beyond words, and I'm auditioning anyone who can consistently bring in more than ten points a week with a better than 50% certainty.

My opponent started Andy Dalton.  I looked up his 34 points today and cursed loudly.  Especially considering this was after I realized Marques Colston and Gronk did a fuckton of nothing for me.

Then I looked up Marvin's stat lines and praised loudly the dark gods of fantasy football, their twisted sense of humour, and the 44.2 points he netted me.  Combined with Le'Veon Bell, Welker, and the Bengals D, I'm about even with my opponent, still with Lynch and Wilson going against the Rams Monday night, and he's out of players after the second set is done.  Fawesome.  He's no Calvin Johnson (goddamn, just another 8 yards for the record) but he'll do.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 27 2013,16:41
So far my highest score (that I started), is the Broncos' D.  Guess that's the one upside of the Redskins' game tonight.  Suck.

Up by 12.  With Jones in, I'd've been up 48.

And if I could ever bring myself to pull E Manning for Glennon, I'd be up on QB too.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2013,17:36
QUOTE
And if I could ever bring myself to pull E Manning for Glennon, I'd be up on QB too.

Glennon's my backup QB specifically for his matchup at Detroit on Wilson's bye.  That being said, I'd still take him over Eli any given week until I see the Giants zapped back to life.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 27 2013,17:54
It's a familiarity thing.  I saw Glennon fuck up way too many times for NC State to trust him at this level.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2013,18:28
Holy fuck, the Vikings should change their team name to the Republicans because neither has a fucking chance of winning anything noteworthy in the next decade.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2013,18:53
Thoughts on 'Burgh v. Raiders ...

1) Liking Bell more, even though the run game was dead this week.  He still got 5 catches for twenty-something yards, so maybe he's going to be more of a pass catcher.

2) Maybe now that Pryor set the QB rushing TD single play yardage record, ESPN will stop showing that fucking Falcons-Vikings game where Vick did the same thing for less yards.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 28 2013,09:25
QUOTE
Unless the Cowboys (who are 4-4, but just 1-4 outside of the division) can win a few in the second half, this has a legitimate chance to be the worst division in NFL history. The 2010 NFC West, with the first 7-9 division champion in history, had 25 total wins. Halfway through the season, this year's NFC East has 11.


Cowboys' remaining schedule
QUOTE

Sun 11/3 Minnesota 1:00 pm ET
Sun 11/10 @ New Orleans 8:30 pm ET
Sun 11/24 @ NY Giants 4:25 pm ET
Thu 11/28 Oakland 4:30 pm ET
Mon 12/9 @ Chicago 8:40 pm ET
Sun 12/15 Green Bay 4:25 pm ET
Sun 12/22 @ Washington 1:00 pm ET
Sun 12/29 Philadelphia 1:00 pm ET

That should be W L W W L L W W, for the awesome 9-7....

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2013,10:28
< Nate Burleson gets free pizza for a year >.

< Brandon Meriweather > may be the dumbest motherfucker in football ... this week.
QUOTE
“To be honest, you’ve just got to go low now,” Meriweather said, according to ESPN 980′s Chris Russell. “You gotta end people’s careers.

“You gotta tear people’s ACLs,” Meriweather continued. “Mess up people’s knees. You can’t him them high anymore. You’ve just got to go low.”

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 28 2013,11:08
I was at the game where Meriweather got flagged and ban-hammered for.

Complete bullshit, and I agree with him.  You cannot hit people any more without getting a flag. So if they say you can't hit high, go for their legs, tear their knees up.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2013,11:15
QUOTE
You cannot hit people any more without getting a flag.

I'll agree that the defensive players are getting to the point where they can only tackle about 10% of the opposing player without getting some penalty yards.  Yeah, it's bullshit and yeah, it's because when a team invests millions of dollars into a player, they don't want the chance that one bad hit cripples or ends a career ... but come the fuck on, it's football and the injuries will happen.  On the other hand, if your star players get injured, then who's going to put up the big points?

While I might agree with Brandon, I sure as shit wouldn't put it the way he did.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2013,20:19
Zac Stacy and Marshawn Lynch had to have switched uniforms.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2013,20:44
That last set was fucking idiocy.  As the announcers are saying ...

190+ yards rushing, 134 of it from the dude that just gashed your way to the red zone VERSUS 158 yards, 2 picks, and ZERO touchdowns from the perennial backup QB.  Pop quiz, asshole: 4th and goal at your opponent's 1 and you've got one play left, you're down by five, what do you do?  What do you DO!?!?!

Jeff Fisher and the Rams: Uh ... pass?



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 28 2013,20:47
I had Lynch, Seattle's D and a 7 point lead going into the night. My opponent had Richardson. Had Richardson punched it in at the end, he would have gotten the TD and the yard he needed for another 10 yard bonus for 7 points total. My defense would have lost 3 points for giving up 10+ points and I would have lost.

When Stacy came back in on that 4th down I was assured victory.

Hooray for goal line stands!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2013,20:49
I just secured at two game for division lead going into a Welker-less week and I'm still tied with that one asshole for top record in the league.

That one asshole:
Every single one of his starters is top ten except his kicker.

EDIT:
QUOTE
Had Richardson punched it in at the end...

Wtf they were thinking at the end putting him in instead of Stacy?  I think he got the last carry on 3rd and they put their fate in the hands of Satan and gave it to Kellen on 4th.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 28 2013,21:14
The announcers said Stacy got hurt.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2013,07:50

(Leisher @ Oct. 28 2013,23:14)
QUOTE
The announcers said Stacy got hurt.

Read that this morning.  Just damn.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 29 2013,08:52
*PHEW*

Just barely managed to stay 12th place, despite a 1 point win (yay for 2 tackles by my LB!)... 12 team league, 6 teams are 3-5, 3 teams are 4-4.  So we're basically the NFC East of fantasy leagues.

My team is a miraculous 3-5 though:  #1 in points against.  #12 in points for.  We've been outscored by 188 points.  
My offense is a disaster:
Best QB - 16th in the league
Best RB - 11th in the league
Best WR - 12th in the league
Best TE - 7th in the league

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 29 2013,09:46
In my work league I just scouted my opponent for this week and saw he was projected for 43 points. That made me curious who he had on bye...

All 6 bench players.
2 guys in his starting lineup

AND

2 guys are out with injury, both in the starting lineup and not on a bye.

He's the Taco of my work league.

Although, I just noticed he needs a QB... Time to sniff out a trade.

Update: Just offered him Brady and Mike James for Eddy Lacy.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2013,09:51
QUOTE
Just offered him Brady and Mike James for Eddy Lacy.

He's a dumb-ass if he takes that.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 29 2013,09:56
He doesn't have a QB, and he needs a RB.

His projection actually goes up this week if he takes it...down 30 for the year though  :D

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2013,10:17
Wow.  Never would've thought this possible at season's beginning:

Someone's offered me Tom Brady for Danny Woodhead, straight up.  Pretty sure I'm going to turn it down.  If I can get him for cheap and get a WR for this week in the process, I might be up.  Thin as hell at wideout this week.

Welker: bye
Roddy White: injury-ridden
Jennings: no QB
Marvin Jones: hardly consistent in spite of his blowup this past weekend

That leaves me starting Marques Colson and Dexter McClusterfuck this week, both averaging a shade under 10 points per game.  Fuck me.



Posted by Troy on Oct. 30 2013,13:00
Elite RBs>Elite QBs>RBs>Everything else

Of course, if you already have a QB, then yeah, fuck that.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2013,13:26
A top-tier WR would be worth more to me than a starting but lackluster RB.  This is doubly true after byes are done because I'm plenty insane enough to roll with 2 RBs all the way to the playoffs.  I need someone that can perform at WR2 next to Welker.  Stephen Hill didn't pan out.  Robert Woods was a great find until EJ got injured.  Probably keeping Wilson, Welker, Gronk, and Lynch next year, so I don't even give a shit if it's a high cost WR.  I sure as hell ain't keeping him unless he surpasses Welker.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 30 2013,14:45
I dont know if I agree with that.

In my league:
#1 QB - 232 pts
#10QB - 135 pts
#20QB - 102 pts

#1 RB  - 139 pts
#10RB - 81 pts
#20RB - 63 pts

That's a 100 pt difference between #1QB and #10 QB, and only 58 pt difference in RBs.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 30 2013,21:38
Peyton Manning is blowing all QBs away in my league, Peyton > All


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2013,07:55
< Albert Haynesworth > challenging Suh for NFL's biggest asshole.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 31 2013,08:51
Im pretty sure that he has no basis upon which to speak about football.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 31 2013,09:18
I love that Cooley came out and said he was just playing for his second or third contract and then completely giving up.

obligatory GIF:



Nice job paying this guy boatloads of money, Skins



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 31 2013,09:40
Haynesworth is just a massive piece of shit.

< Dolphins starting O tackle goes home > after teammates "rib him".

Wow. He rage quit.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2013,12:39
< More crazy ranting >.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 31 2013,12:55
Clearly evidence of the brain damage the NFL causes.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2013,19:33
Marvin Jones is riding my PPR bench this week because:

1) Miami's pass D is not bullshit.
2) He's on the field way fewer snaps than Green and Sanu (#1 and #2 WRs, respectively).
3) McCluster is at Buffalo and Colston is at NYJ.  Buffalo's pass D is the league's worst.  NYJ is in the bottom third.
4) 3 RBs with decent matchups, so no need for a WR at flex.

However, he just had an Andy Dalton fuck up cost him a red zone catch that might've been a TD.  Gresham's dumb-ass holding penalty got his 50-yarder score called back.  Damn.  He may be legit for 10 plus points and a threat for more each week.  He doesn't get a bazillion targets, but he usually hauls it in and he get red zone looks.  If he or McCluster turns consistent, and one of my old dudes comes back to life (probably Roddy White before Jennings), I'll have ok WR depth when Burleson comes back in week 10.  I feel way more relaxed with my two-game cushion for div lead.  Bet I'll lose this week.  Would be nice if Gronk picked up and took some pressure off the unproven WRs, though.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2013,09:55
< How to piss off Texas >:
QUOTE
Tom Landry died a Giants fan.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2013,12:42
< Vikings officially giving up >.
QUOTE
Christian Ponder will start at quarterback when the Minnesota Vikings visit the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday.
...
The Vikings coach did not announce who will back up Ponder, Freeman or Matt Cassel. Earlier in the week, Frazier ruled out Cassel from the starting competition.

Fuck you, Frazier.  Have fun golfing with Schiano in the offseason so you two fucking idiots can argue over who knows less about running a successful NFL team.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 01 2013,16:32

(Malcolm @ Nov. 01 2013,15:42)
QUOTE
< Vikings officially giving up >.

Fuck you, Frazier.  Have fun golfing with Schiano in the offseason so you two fucking idiots can argue over who knows less about running a successful NFL team.

You have no clue what you are talking about.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2013,10:45
I know Ponder's put his house up for sale.  He's expecting the boot.  I'd call him a temporary fix until Freeman leans the offense enough to get his real tryout.  But if you're going to put Ponder in until Freeman's ready, wtf?  Cassel's won your only goddamn game this year.  He'll do just as well.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2013,10:52
QUOTE
Marvin Jones is riding my PPR bench this week...

Well, that was a dumb idea.  He's at least a good bet for 10 points.  I got a questionable Roddy White and Marques Colston, followed by Jennings.  I've got zero bench room for another pickup until one of the two gimps is declared out.  Last wave of claims goes through at 10am Sunday.  Just goddamnit.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2013,11:29
Ponder is their best bet until Freeman is ready.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2013,10:00

(TheCatt @ Nov. 02 2013,13:29)
QUOTE
Ponder is their best bet until Freeman is ready.

I disagree, but I'm tied to Jennings this weekend thanks to White and Colston.

Week 3: Ponder, 0 TDs against Cleveland.
Week 8: Ponder, 0 TDs against Green Bay.

So, let's see how he does against the Dallas secondary.  There is literally no worse team in the NFL this year in terms of passing yards surrendered per game (and it's 300+).  On the other hand, the Vikings have thrown as many TDs this season as Manning the Greater threw in one week.  

Most they've thrown in one game?  2.  3 of those belong to Cassel.  Ponder got 1 in week 1, 1 in week 2.

The Dallas run D is middle of the pack.  This has got to be a 200-yard gimme week, even for someone of Ponder's incompetence.  The question is whether he goose eggs the TD stat.  If he does, he's hopeless.  If he can put up at least 2, awesome, he's achieved backup level talent.  We already have a couple QBs not worth starting, though.  Of them, Cassel's the only one that's got a passing score in each start.  Granted, shitty sample size, but the numbers speak.

Opponent's got Rodgers going Monday, so I need to be up by at least 40 points to feel comfy.  I'm betting DeMarco Murray is going to destroy the Vikings and bury me early.  If Ponder's got a multi-TD game left, it'd be cool if he could finally connect with Greg this week.  If he does, I'll stave off my hatred for a full fortnight.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 03 2013,11:10
Just me, or strangely little offense so far today?
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 03 2013,13:49
Fantasy scores are very low.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2013,13:49

(TheCatt @ Nov. 03 2013,13:10)
QUOTE
Just me, or strangely little offense so far today?

During the first half of the first set of games, yeah.  But it kind of woke up during the second half.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2013,13:55
Ponder:
230+ yards passing.  1 passing TD.  That last throw of the game was fucking embarrassing.  Couldn't even get it in the end zone with zero pressure and all kinds of time, against one of the worst passing defense in the NFL.  If the Vikes are going to have a QB that can't throw, at least get Tebow; he's a better rusher.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2013,13:58
In the event that both Colston and White were out before the claims processed, by emergency backup plan was Riley Cooper, currently lighting it up for 130 and 2 scores.  Fucking late injury reports.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 03 2013,14:41
Panthers Defense best last pick I ever made.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 03 2013,14:52
With Schaub and Manual injured, and E manning on BYE, I had a choice between Campbell and Glennon.  I figured I'd hate myself either way, and with Glennon going against Seattle's D, I'd go with Campbell.

So far, it's a wash:
Campbell 13
Glennon 12


And since the Redskins O has woken up, I haven't done too bad today: Morris for 18, Garcon for another 18.  Shame that Young took away 3 TDs.  

Man the Redskins nearly blew that game.  1 foot away from a loss.  And two blocked FGs.  WTF?

Ponder did OK.  The fumble and the near fumble weren't great.

And wow, the Panthers just rolled over the Falcons today.  woot!

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2013,15:27

(Malcolm @ Nov. 03 2013,15:58)
QUOTE
In the event that both Colston and White were out before the claims processed, by emergency backup plan was Riley Cooper, currently lighting it up for 130 and 2 scores.  Fucking late injury reports.

139 and 3 scores.  Foles has thrown four others.  Holy fuck.

On the plus side, Gronk's doing good, Wilson's thrown and rushed for a score.  A couple rushing TDs for Bell and Lynch would go a long way towards easing my paranoia.  Hopkins and Richardson sucking wouldn't hurt either.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 03 2013,15:33
I almost started the Oakland D since they were playing Philly, as my typical starting D is on bye.  So glad I picked up the Titans instead.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 03 2013,18:33
So... Schaub has sucked a nut for me.  I don't care about Houston, but Case Keenum has revitalized Johnson tonight.  27 pts in our league tonight, equal to half of what he's got the rest of season combined.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2013,18:41
Was considering swapping him out for Glennon since Houston plays Jacksonville during Wilson's bye.  Wonder if I can get him cheap still.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2013,18:58
Damn.  Anyone else hear that?  It was the sound of Schaub's starting career ending.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 03 2013,19:15
This week has been crazy.

In my work league I'm up 98.22 to 13.50. I'm done, and he has Eddy Lacy and Michael Bush to go. I'm feeling comfortable there.

In my friends and family league, I'm up 49-37 (the lowest scoring game in our league) with Vinatieri going, while he has Alshon Jefferies and the Packers D tomorrow.

Horrible game. I've got Peyton and Fitzgerald on byes, I just lost Blackmon for the season, I lost my 2nd RB for the season, so I've got McGahee starting. My WRs got me a total of 6 points (Nate Washington didn't get a single catch.)

Meanwhile, he started Alex Smith for 4 points, got 6 total from Rice and Ryan Matthews (my two RBs from the work league, hehe), got 3 from Hartline, and Keenan Allen blew up for 18 for him.

Just an embarrassing display from both teams.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2013,19:34
Standard: Fucked.  
Zac Stacy and Gio Bernard buried me.

PPR: was worried but am kicking arse.
Only player he had do shit was Marlon Brown, the dude I traded to him as an afterthought in the Great Ray Rice dumpoff that netted me Le'Veon Bell.

Wilson
Lynch
Woodhead
Bell
McClusterfuck (bust)
Jennings
Gronk

versus

Rodgers (still to play)
Ray Rice
DeMacro Murray
Trent Richardson
Marlon Brown
DeAndre Hopkins
Delanie Walker

Game over.  To boot, I've got a 3-game div lead, managed to win my Welker-less week, Burleson comes back next week (and Stafford throws a shitload), and there's a chance I'll have best league record for at least a week.  Last difficult week is 12, when Lynch and Wilson are on bye.  Playing who'll probably be the main competition for div lead that week.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 04 2013,04:00
I wish I had dropped Rice.  But my band of scrubs had a miracle week.  150 points.
Campbell, Morris, Garcon, and Johnson.  85 point lead going into tonight, and all he has is Bears' D.

And I finally took Marlon Brown out of the starting lineup after weeks of mediocritude. Bah.

4-5 baby!

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 04 2013,06:00
Browns record with Weeden as a starter 0-4

Browns record with anyone else starting  4-1

There was a point in the game where Holti Ngata's 340 pound fat ass landed on Jason Campbell and he was out for a few plays.  At the time all of Cleveland was in a panic because all you saw was Weeden taking snaps on the sideline.  He then trots on the field and i hear nothing i've ever heard before on a football broadcast..

The very sight of Weeden elicited screams of horror louder than heard at a Halloween fright house.  I swear to god, no boos like you would expect. Just the sheer high pitch screems of women, children and i'm sure grown ass men that couldn't hold back their terror.  The camera shot then changes to some dog bone wielding bearded man that looked like a ghost had just ripped his balls off and fed them to him!

I myself was feeling the same way, but i couldn't help but laugh at what i had just heard and saw.  It was pure comedy and horror at the same time.

Luckily Weeden was only in for 3 plays and finished with prolly his best stat line of the season 1 for 2 for -2 yards.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 04 2013,06:47
Weeden is a disaster. I look forward seeing him at the drive through car wash next year.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2013,07:58
Vikings GM: < Next year, QB talent, and winning >.  Name three things the Vikings don't give a fuck about.
QUOTE
"Leslie Frazier is not going anywhere," Spielman said Friday, per The Star Tribune. "I am telling you that we are very committed to Leslie Frazier and this coaching staff."

< Vikings players question play calling >.
QUOTE
Fuck you, Frazier.  Have fun golfing with Schiano in the offseason so you two fucking idiots can argue over who knows less about running a successful NFL team.

Yeah, they'll have nothing to talk about.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2013,10:21
< Rookie hazing in Miami >?
QUOTE
A source who is described as having direct knowledge of the situation told the Miami Herald that younger players on the Dolphins team are under pressure to pay for veterans’ social outings, likening them to personal ATMs.

The source said younger players – some of whom make around $400,000 a year – were handed the tab for a $30,000 team dinner. One defensive player whose privacy is being protected is on his way to becoming broke for not being able to say no to the older players’ demands, the source added.

NFL team = fraternity.  Got it.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 04 2013,10:44
I was under the impression this happened everywhere.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2013,11:02

(TheCatt @ Nov. 04 2013,12:44)
QUOTE
I was under the impression this happened everywhere.

Probably does.  I can even understand it during training camp or preseason.  But during the regular season, I figure you'd want your football teammates to focus on, you know, playing fucking football.  < Some teams disagree >.

< Not a dinner tab >.
QUOTE
"Hey, wassup, you half (expletive) piece of (expletive)," according to a transcript obtained by Breer of an Incognito voicemail to Martin. "I saw you on Twitter, you been training ten weeks. I'll (expletive) in you (expletive) mouth. I'm gonna slap your (expletive) mouth, I'm gonna slap your real mother across the face (laughter). (Expletive) you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."


That, along with other shit, has earned Incognito an indefinite team suspension.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 04 2013,12:25
Wow, um, yeah.... enjoy the vacation, dude.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 04 2013,12:46
Forcing folks to pay tens of thousands of dollars is beyond hazing. I think that's criminal.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 04 2013,12:55
Burn it down and make a parking lot

(the dolphins)



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2013,13:16
< Why Sean Taylor died >.
QUOTE
One of the men charged in the slaying, 25-year-old Jason Mitchell, attended a birthday party a few weeks earlier at the house for Taylor's half-sister, Sasha Johnson -- who lived in Fort Myers and knew Rivera. She testified that Taylor gave her a purse containing $10,000 in cash at the party, which was witnessed by all the guests.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2013,19:26
Miami paper has Incognito on the suspended list until season's end, at which point he gets booted from the Fins.  < Teammates supporting Incognito >?
QUOTE
"He's a funny guy," [Cornerback Will] Davis said of Incognito. "Everybody loves him."

QUOTE
"I love Richie. I think he's a great guy. I don't think he was out of hand. I have a lot of respect for Richie. I wish he was here."

... says Mike Wallace.  Just to repeat the voicemail...
QUOTE
"Hey, wassup, you half (expletive) piece of (expletive).  I saw you on Twitter, you been training ten weeks. I'll (expletive) in you (expletive) mouth. I'm gonna slap your (expletive) mouth, I'm gonna slap your real mother across the face (laughter). (Expletive) you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."

Yeah.  Hilarious.  Sounds like Mike Tyson doing standup about fifteen years ago.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2013,20:52
PPR league:
Due to Brandon Marshall and Mason Crosby falling just short for someone, I'm now the owner of the top league record.

12 team league...

# of 4-5 teams: 6
# of 5-4 teams: 3

The outliers?  Someone pulling 1-8 in my div, me at 7-2, and the dude cursing Brandon Marshall at 6-3.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 05 2013,06:26
Our 12 team league is similar, 8 teams that are 5-4 or 4-5.  2 3-6 teams, then the outliers: 6-3 and 7-2.  I'm no longer the worst team in the league!
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 05 2013,06:52
The whole Incognito thing is weird. First of all, he's not the only player involved. Right now he's a scapegoat, but it's clear multiple players were harassing Martin. Secondly, Riley Cooper was drunk and screamed the n word at a security guy at a concert, and he was vilified by teammates. Incognito does it to a teammate in a malicious way, and it's not a big deal? WTF?

I know one thing, Miami has zero shot of winning shit until they clean out that locker room.

Both of my leagues are interesting this year.

In my work league, I'm ranked as the third best team overall, second in my division (by tiebreaker), and tied with two other teams with the best record at 6-3. There are 5 teams at 5-4. Only one team is 4-5, and they're last in my division making my division the toughest. Everyone else has 2-3 wins.

In my family/friends league, I'm tied with Stranger for our division lead at 7-2. Second place is at 5-4, and last place is 3 games back at 4-5. We are, by FAR, the best division. To contrast, there's one team at 1-8, and he's only 3 games back in his division... There are only two other teams in our entire league over .500 (one at 7-2 and one at 5-4), and they're in the third division together.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2013,09:58
< Coach compares NFL to school, players to children >.
QUOTE
Philbin spoke Monday without notes for nearly five minutes, often forcefully. He compared the situation to sending his two children to school nearby.

"When they walk in those doors, I have a certain expectations," the coach said. "That the administration, the teachers, the staff are going to create a safe atmosphere where my children can learn and develop as people. And this is no different. I take this responsibility very seriously."

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 05 2013,14:11
So... if you're the Packers, may as well grab Flynn, right?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2013,15:02

(TheCatt @ Nov. 05 2013,16:11)
QUOTE
So... if you're the Packers, may as well grab Flynn, right?

You'd figure.  Even a shitty QB that knows your system is a better bet than some untested dude who'll do Christ knows what.

Oh wait, we're not talking about Ponder, Freeman, or Cassel?



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2013,11:44
< Stupidest bet ever >.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 07 2013,07:58
< Incognito-Martin saga goes on >.

< Everyone else weighs in >.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 07 2013,10:01
Based on what everyone else in the locker room is saying, I'm starting to think Incognito is the actual victim here.

The most damning thing is Hartline pointing out that Martin was playing that voicemail earlier this year and laughing about it.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 07 2013,12:21
Fucking Ricky Williams saying Martin should have done what Ricky did and just fail a few drug tests if he didn't want to play football anymore.

Other team-mates saying that Incognito was the first dude at Martin's side whenever shit went down on the field in games and practice.

This just boils down to an absolute disaster for the Dolphins, no winners, only losers.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 07 2013,12:36

(Troy @ Nov. 07 2013,14:21)
QUOTE
This just boils down to an absolute disaster for the Dolphins, no winners, only losers.

Looks like Tampa's now the second shittiest locker room in Florida's NFL atmosphere.  The Jags might be the happiest team in that state.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 07 2013,17:36
That was a nice Weeden-esque start by Ponder tonight.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 07 2013,18:23

(TheCatt @ Nov. 07 2013,19:36)
QUOTE
That was a nice Weeden-esque start by Ponder tonight.

Tell me again ... he's a better option than Cassel for the rest of the season, uh, why now?
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 07 2013,18:32
Cuz Cassel's even worse?
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 07 2013,18:47
MN's at least making Washington's O look good/helping my fantasy team.  Morris for 8, Garcon for 12, and Reed for 10 so far.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 07 2013,19:39

(TheCatt @ Nov. 07 2013,20:32)
QUOTE
Cuz Cassel's even worse?

Looks like the football gods want to find out.  I don't think he is, either.  Minnesota's QB situation just got more interesting.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 07 2013,20:02
Well, your D has woken up.  And Ponder had a pretty good night.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 07 2013,20:08
They've still got time to lose.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 07 2013,20:10

(TheCatt @ Nov. 07 2013,22:02)
QUOTE
Well, your D has woken up.  And Ponder had a pretty good night.

Between the 3 TDs and not even 175 passing yards, I'd call it a wash.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 07 2013,20:36
I hope we got a fucking draft pick for giving Washington that last time.  WTF?  Can't believe they held on.

Naturally, Jordan Reed goes for 6/60 and a score against me when I'm playing the dude right behind me for best div record, with Gronk on bye.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 08 2013,07:41

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 08 2013,07:54
OK washington, guess it's over now.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 08 2013,09:20

(TheCatt @ Nov. 08 2013,09:54)
QUOTE
OK washington, guess it's over now.

You lose to the Vikes, your season is pretty much over.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 08 2013,10:10

(Malcolm @ Nov. 08 2013,09:20)
QUOTE
You lose to the Vikes, your season is pretty much over.

+1

Also, lol at those bleeping timeouts the vikings kept taking at the end there.



Posted by Troy on Nov. 08 2013,10:56
We're going to beat the 49ers on Sunday
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 08 2013,11:06
I don't think so, but your team is looking much improved over years past.

I think you make the playoffs.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 08 2013,11:20
I don't mean dominate, but I expect we slow their "unstoppable" run game and force Kaep to make throws.

We'll see how that works out.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2013,10:10
I've not seen Colin have a really good throwing game this year since week 1.  He had a pretty ok game versus the Arizona Desert Birds in week 6.  Week 1 was mostly Boldin torching the shit-tacular GB secondary, week 6 was Colin figuring out Vernon Davis could get lots of YAC if it took a linebacker and two safeties to bring him down.  There's not going to be one Carolina safety or corner to pick on for the entire game.  Then it becomes a matter of who blinks first: Newton or the Gore-Hunter RB combo.  Think ToP could be huge because I could see a close game, then someone's D getting worn down and destroyed.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2013,19:35
< Second > Vikings player (along with Jerome Felton) with drug problems this year.  Not like he was doing much but Jennings and Carlson are going to get blanketed now.  Jarius Wright. and Patterson move up a notch on the depth chart.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2013,10:37
Today in the NFL:

< Ben Tate > now the man in Houston.

< Well known Incognito > talks more.  I'm inclined to believe he's just a typical douchebag that's prone to losing his cool and doing remarkably stupid things in that state.  That being said, there are indeed some motherfuckers you can't joke with.  One of the former just met one of the latter and one party blew a whistle.  Also, to paraphrase one of the Miami players, "It's bullshit if the coaches say they don't know about it.  Hell, sometimes they tell us to toughen people up by doing that shit."

< Big Ben > trade rumours seemingly quashed.



Posted by Troy on Nov. 10 2013,13:44
I thought we got over our punt turnover problems. Guess not.

d still making stops though...



Posted by Troy on Nov. 10 2013,14:10
None of this matters though because the hot garbage Carolina Offensive got off the plane.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2013,16:05
This is going to be known as the week I ran out of WRs.

Roddy White, benched, did nothing.
Jennings, benched, did nothing.
Kenny Stills, benched, probably going to go off because of that.
Marvin Jones, started at WR2, does nothing.

Opponent had Brandon Marshall go off.  I'm up by 3 with Welker + Woodhead in the remainder of the 4th plus Tim Wright Monday.  He's got Dez Bryant and Witten.  Should be noted that NO typically shuts down the opposing top wideout to the tune of sub-70 yards.

There's a chance Welker does some damage still or Wright nails Miami Monday night, but this pisses me off because now I'm back to tied for best league record.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 10 2013,16:17
Yeah, I had M Jones and my opponent had Marshall as well.  I'm getting killed.  2nd best in the league at 85 points, and #1 is 152 points (Rams Defense, seriously?), who is my opponent.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 10 2013,16:17
QUOTE
Rodgers is out with a left collarbone injury, and backup Seneca Wallace left after the first series with a groin injury.

So Matt Flynn's leverage just went up.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 10 2013,16:18

(Troy @ Nov. 08 2013,13:56)
QUOTE
We're going to beat the 49ers on Sunday

Nice call.  Not pretty, but a HUGE win for the Panthers.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 10 2013,16:49

(TheCatt @ Nov. 10 2013,16:18)
QUOTE

(Troy @ Nov. 08 2013,13:56)
QUOTE
We're going to beat the 49ers on Sunday

Nice call.  Not pretty, but a HUGE win for the Panthers.

I felt like they lost the entire time, and then at the end we were ahead and somehow time was running out.

Ugly win to be sure, not a great game for concussion worriers



e: and they finally won a close game in the 4th!



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2013,18:43
I picked a hell of a week to drop Colston for Stills.  That's the WR I needed to play.  FUCK.  I need the miracle that is Bryant and Witten being shut down for a second half.  Also looks like Welker came up short in Manning's musical TD pass game this week.


Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2013,07:01
I was down 30 after Thursday night's game (he had Morris and Garcon), but went into Sunday night's game with a 13 point lead and Terrance Williams while my opponent had Dez Bryant.

So I'm moving to 8-2 in that league. Thank you Rob Ryan.

In my other league, I'm down 6 points with Mike James yet to play, while he has Lamar Miller.

Congrats to your Panthers Troy. That was a good win. Reminded me of the Steelers-Ravens games.

How bad are the Cowboys? At least they're not $30 million over the cap already for next year...

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,07:21
Note to self: play everyone going against the Cowboys D, all the time, period.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 11 2013,07:31
I had no idea that Cowboy's LB Sean Lee was the glue that held that shit-show together.

They stopped even trying to look competent after he went down.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,07:47
Hmm.  Need 11.5 points out of Tim Wright tonight to win.  Could still pull this out even though both my WRs combined for fewer points than the Bengals D.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2013,11:20
By the way, nobody else has said it yet, but that Trent Richardson trade is making the Browns look pretty smart now.

I started Donald Brown this week and got 12 points out of him versus the 0 (2 yards!) Trent got.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,11:37
Matthew Berry was pointing out that Richardson is averaging 12 more rushing yards per game than Brown.  Much the same with Ray Rice, I don't know if I can call this entirely Trent's fault.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2013,11:49
12 more rushing yards per game over the guy who plays behind you? Not too impressive.

Rooney II tried to quell rumors today that they were looking to trade Ben. However, NFL.com is reporting that it's Ben who will be pushing for a trade.

Considering where he is in his career and how much money they'll be paying him to play for a middle of the pack team, I hope they get smart and trade him. Someone would be happy to overpay for him.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,11:59
QUOTE
12 more rushing yards per game over the guy who plays behind you? Not too impressive.

It's still the Browns.  They could pick the next JaMarcus.

QUOTE
Someone would be happy to overpay for him.

Don't they take a big financial hit if they trade him?

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2013,12:31
It all depends on the trade.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,12:37
< Dez v. AP v. Megatron >, maybe not the comparison you'd expect.  That leads nicely into < this >, yet another take on the clusterfuck in Miami that's going to take the Monday night spotlight.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,12:43

(Troy @ Nov. 11 2013,09:31)
QUOTE
I had no idea that Cowboy's LB Sean Lee was the glue that held that shit-show together.

They stopped even trying to look competent after he went down.

< Gone for about a month >.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 11 2013,18:46
Decided to start trading out some players since my season is kinda over at 4-6 and I have no good QBs.  Remember, it's a keeper league.  I have 4 of the top 22 WRs in the league.

I picked up Riley Cooper on waivers earlier in the season.  Just traded him for Eddie Lacy.  I figure Lacy will be stronger when the Packers are good next year.

Offered out Andre Johnson and Marvin Jones as well (willing to part with 1 of them).  One guy responded so far, and I asked for either Russel Wilson (he could pick up one of my mediocre QBs as well in return) or Demarco Murray straight-up.

It still doesn't solve my QB issue (I have E Manning, Glennon, EJ Manual, Campbell, and Schaub), but helps my RB situation (Alfred Morris, Ray Rice, and no one)

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,19:15
Timothy Wright: currently as many points as Tim Brown.  This is after Brent Celek goose egged me in the standard league as a Gronk replacement.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,19:39
HOLY FUCK.  He lives.  8.6 points to go.  I expect another 3, maybe 4.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2013,20:31
Looks like Tampa's vying for shittiest Florida NFL team.  That's some stiff competition.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2013,07:51
< TB season > gets better, then worse.  Hard to make cuts without a proper ankle.


Posted by Leisher on Nov. 12 2013,08:04
I needed him to have a good night to win in my work fantasy league. He was about to, and then not so much.

Throwing a lot of trades at the wall in that league this morning to see if there are any takers.

Brady for Rodgers - He's not going to the playoffs and has no starting QB...I will give him one and hopefully get Rodgers for a playoff run.

Ray Rice and Ryan Matthews for Matt Forte and Le'Devon Bell. - Same team, and this is NOT a fair trade. I put in the notes that I just want to start the conversation. I want to hear a counter.

And as I was checking on these to talk about here, my third trade was accepted by another team. I grabbed Antonio Brown for Emmanuel Sanders and Dwayne Bowe. Sanders and Bowe were each nearly 50 points behind Brown for the year. The guy who traded me is 2-6 and my trade notes said: "why not?"

In different news, I went out and grabbed Michael Crabtree in both leagues as well. He's begun practicing with the team again, and looks to be close to returning. So if you want to make a sneaky move for a #1 WR, keep an eye on him before he's announced to be returning. He should be back in time for fantasy playoffs.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2013,08:19
QUOTE
I grabbed Antonio Brown for Emmanuel Sanders and Dwayne Bowe.

Goddamn.

QUOTE
... I went out and grabbed Michael Crabtree in both leagues as well.

One mofo in my PPR went out weeks ago and stashed both Crabtree and Harvin on his IR.  He beat me to them by one day.  I would kill for some WRs right about now.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 12 2013,09:15
< I have good timing. >
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 12 2013,09:23
Cratbree's still taken in our league.  We have decently deep benches.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 12 2013,11:34
This week Carolina's playing against the Patriots who are coming off their bye on MNF. Part 2 of our midseason WTF!? scheduling.

Brady's boys are all back (Amendola, Gronk) and healthy.

Should be pretty epic. I'm thinking the Panthers keep a heavy run game going all night, and hope Brady doesn't have a ridiculous Brady game. If we get pressure on Brady early, or if he just goes all LOL SUPERBOWL on us, it'll be onesided either way.

Otherwise, it should be a helluva close game and fun to watch.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2013,11:54
Pats generally do good coming off the bye.
Posted by Stranger on Nov. 13 2013,08:34
< http://www.sportsworldnews.com/article....ped.htm >

Looks like Trent Richardson is having better luck off the field than he is on it! LOL

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2013,09:59
QUOTE
Larry Brown Sports suggested that the amount of women in the video was greater than Richardson's yards per carry as a Colt.

Ouch.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 14 2013,19:20
PPR:
3-way tie for best league record.  2 games up in the div.  1 game up in the bye week race.  Playing the div #2 this week.  Still no WR2.  Going to give Rueben Randle a shot.  Dalton is killing Marvin Jones.  When did Roddy White become Fred Taylor?  That motherfucker is more prone to injury lately than Samuel L. Jackson's character from Unbreakable.

Standard:
Playing league leader.  Would love to steal a win from him consider he beat me week 1 when I had Demaryius and Welker and Owen Daniels going.  Only postseason this year is the losers bracket.  But hey, consolation prize is the entry fee for next year.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 14 2013,19:49
Good jeebus, I retract anything I said about Richardon's slump not being his fault.

Same number of runs as Brown and fucking Luck.  Of those three, guess who's the only dude without a score and with the lowest YPC?

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 14 2013,20:26
Serving Gatorade in my opponent's locker room:
Donald Brown with 22 points plus change.  Turning in a mediocre performance on the field for him ... T.Y. Hilton.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2013,12:15
< Big Ben blowback for Steelers >.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 15 2013,13:21
I'm fine either way.

If he retires a Steeler, fine.

If he's leaving, I wish they'd trade him and get value.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2013,09:44
The revolving door that is my PPR team's WR2 position continues to spin this week.

Crabtree and Harvin are taken.  The pizza injury to Burleson's arm is still keeping him sidelined.  The remaining scrubs:

Greg Jennings: just having a godawful year with a godawful passing game.  The only QB that looked his way got benched after two games.  I see no upside beyond a miracle.

Marvin Jones: comes and goes with Andy Dalton's not sucking and sucking.  However, Cleveland has been killed by the WR2 position this year.  

Week 9: Marlon Brown, 5-54, 2 TDs.  
Week 8: McClusterfuck, 7-67, 1 TD.  
Week 7: Jarret Boykin, 8-103, 1 TD.  
Week 6: Kris Durham, 8-83.  

You have to go back to weeks 4 and 5 to see when they last shut down WR2.  

Week 5: Robert Woods, 5-64 ... would've been more had EJ Manual not gone down, Woods was clearly his go-to WR1 dude with all the injuries at the time.  
Week 4: Marvin Jones, goose egg.  

So I'm kind of torn on that stat.

Rueben Randle: Toss out KC and Carolina games (two tough Ds) and they've only been held to fewer than 20 points once this season.  Cruz is clearly the man for Big Blue, though, and Rueben fights with Hakeem for targets.

Roddy White: Revis Island plus his hamstring/ankle/shoulder/whatever injury concerns plus his entire fucking performance for this season to date.

Just goddamnit.  Marvin or Rueben?  Thoughts?

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 16 2013,10:08
You need Rafi to choke you out until you say one of their names.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2013,11:23
My benched Bobby Rainey is kicking the ass of my opponent's benched Donald Brown.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2013,11:30
The Pittsburgh throwback uniforms look like they came from a long-forgotten California prop costume studio that stored them because the '60 Batman TV show rejected them for henchman outfits.  Dear fucking god.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 17 2013,12:44
I hated them last year, and I still hate them.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2013,14:27
Ah, Case Keenum,  What a way to fuck me over right before you were going to start against Jacksonville on Wilson's bye.  Goddamnit.  My $1 investment in Bobby Rainey may bode well for me on Lynch's bye, though, and let me avoid going WR at flex.  Bengals D is back in
"kick your ass" mode even with some key injuries.  And is Roddy White zombie'ing back from the dead?



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 17 2013,15:07
Pittsburgh looked awful, but the win was nice considering I won't hear any shit from Lions fans.

It appears I might be on my way to a win in both fantasy leagues too.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2013,17:34

(Leisher @ Nov. 17 2013,17:07)
QUOTE
Pittsburgh looked awful, but the win was nice considering I won't hear any shit from Lions fans.

It appears I might be on my way to a win in both fantasy leagues too.

HAH.  The Lions are only a few years removed from the shit pile.

Unless the Pats D outscores Welker and Gronk by 7 points, I win in both.  The standard league win comes against the div leader.  I know I'm pretty much fucked and he's four games up on the #2, but goddamn it feels good to smash him.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2013,19:42
Deadline for trades is Nov. 20 in PPR.  Going to see if Rainey and/or Woodhead can be given up for a reliable WR2.  Roddy's nice, but I need to see him have a #1 WR game before I trust him for reliability.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2013,20:00

(Malcolm @ Nov. 17 2013,21:42)
QUOTE
Deadline for trades is Nov. 20 in PPR.  Going to see if Rainey and/or Woodhead can be given up for a reliable WR2.  Roddy's nice, but I need to see him have a #1 WR game before I trust him for reliability.

Hah.  Already got a bite.  Rainey for Torrey Smith.  Unless he retracts or I get a better offer, I think that's the w1nn3r.

EDIT: I'm feeling like a bastard.  Counteroffer Woodhead and Rainey for AP.  Let's see how desperate he is.



Posted by Paul on Nov. 17 2013,20:11

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 17 2013,20:15
Last week the #2 ranked team lost Mike James. He grabbed Leonard to replace him, while I grabbed Rainey on a whim.

Now I've got someone to start next week when Lynch is off and he's got no #2 RB.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2013,20:15
Ah, Shady.

Dude is seriously considering the Woodhead + Rainey for AP offer.  Holy fuck.  I'd need Roddy White to start playing consistent or it's going to be Rueben Randle until Marvin Jones (meaning Andy Dalton) gets it together.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 17 2013,21:38
< 400 pound high school RB. >

They tout his agility, I must have missed that part of the video. Seems like he's just big and guys who try to improperly tackle him high bounce off. Meanwhile, anyone that goes after his legs gets him down immediately.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 18 2013,06:34
I hope McCoy gets arrested for that.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2013,07:10

(Leisher @ Nov. 17 2013,23:38)
QUOTE
< 400 pound high school RB. >

They tout his agility, I must have missed that part of the video. Seems like he's just big and guys who try to improperly tackle him high bounce off. Meanwhile, anyone that goes after his legs gets him down immediately.

So, he plays what, once every series then rests a few downs to catch his breath?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2013,07:19
Welker concussed.  Goddamnit.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2013,08:56
Already thinking ahead to next year:

Would like 4 clear cut, cheap keepers.  So far:
Wilson, Gronk, Lynch.  Do I make Lev Bell the 4th or try to trade Woodhead + Welker for a cheap, young WR on the rise?

Don't want to keep Welker because there are too many targets in Denver and Manning's not getting younger.  Once he's gone, that place will have a fire sale.  Woodhead ... eh, maybe.  He's got more upside than Bell.  I'd rather trade him for with his $1 price tag now than throw him to the wolves next year.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 18 2013,16:42
It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum:




Patriots will do...


e: jesus table-breaking christ, credit to panthers/reddit



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2013,17:05
Pretty much no one wants to touch Welker due to the concussion.  Did get Torrey Smith for Rainey, though.  Question is now Roddy White or Nate Burleson for flex in PPR.  I expect Rainey to carry on the proud tradition of 2013 Tampa Bay RBs and go down with a season-ending injury in a couple weeks.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 18 2013,20:35
BAM!
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2013,07:27
Sweet.  Four trade offers.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2013,09:29
Lev Bell + Welker for Chris Johnson + Andre Johnson.  Really going to have to think about it.  Trade is from the dude dead last in the league.

- Gives the other dude an excuse to cut two high-priced vets he's not going to keep next year (nor do I want to).  
- Makes my 4 keepers easy for next year.
- Lets me keep 3 starter RBs.
- I like Andre better than Welker as long as Keenum's in.
- When Manning's gone, Welker's value probably drops.
- I'm not paying $15 for for him when I can pay $26 total for 4 quality keepers.  The cash I save on keeper RBs next year means more cash to spend on decent WRs.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2013,10:24

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2013,10:20
< Vikings playing strictly for draft picks >.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 20 2013,11:27
1) At least they can play for draft picks, unlike the Redskins who traded all theirs away
2) How else will MN find another QB to that will underperform?

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2013,11:42
QUOTE
2) How else will MN find another QB to that will underperform?

Our usual sources are:

1. shitty drafting for relatively cheap salaries (Ponder, T-Jack)
2. fallen QBs from other teams for modest salaries (Rosenthal, Cassel, Freeman)
3. overpriced free agents past their prime for high salaries (McNabb, Favre)



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2013,12:07
PPR league playoff run team:

Already clinched a spot in the postseason.  Only question is if I get one of the top two records and get a first round bye.

QBs: Wilson and Keenum
RBs: C Johnson (going to grab Greene for handcuff), Woodhead, Lynch (got Turbin for handcuff)
WRs: Torrey Smith, Andre Johnson, Roddy White, Nate Burleson, Robert Woods (going to try and swap him for Steve Smith on waivers tomorrow)
TEs: Gronk, Owen Daniels
D: Bengals

Early indications are moving towards a repeat of the championship game two years ago between me and the motherfucker that started Vick back then.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 20 2013,12:33
So, I gave up in my league this year, since I was 4-6... but then I won... and at 5-6, I'm in a 5-way tie for 6th place, cutoff for top tier of playoffs.

I'm playing another 5-6 team this week, so that will go a long way towards deciding, but I'm out of the running for top draft picks now.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2013,13:31
Schiano still < kind of a dick >.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2013,17:52
Here's to hoping the Saints run over the Falcons like Rainey did last week and skip the passing game to Jimmy Graham.  Mofo playing me in PPR this week somehow has Gates and Jimmy going against me.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2013,18:06
Woohoo Ben Watson vulture TD.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2013,20:01
Fuck me sideways, the slugfest begins.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2013,20:09
They're kicking a FG?  What the fuck, man?  2:24 to go, you're down 3, you go for a 50-something yarder and pray you bottle up the Saints and get the ball back for another chip shot?  Any testicles on the Falcons have just receded.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2013,20:09
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

As I type that, he misses.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 22 2013,11:45
So, in my league, I offered Andre Johnson for the KC Chiefs (#1 defense).  I have the Broncos D. They did great in the past, but their up-tempo simple has meant too many points/possessions for both sides this year.  

The league vetoed the trade.  "I've never seen a top 10 WR traded for a D before" was one genius' comment.  I have 4 top 25 WRs on my team, and 3 top 18 RBs now.  I'm overloaded in those positions.  I only lose a few points on the season by getting ride of AJ (who has mostly sucked except 2 weeks anyways, and is 32 years old in a keeper league), but KC has score 60 more points than my D/best available D.

Grrrrrrrrr.

Meanwhile, someone offered Steve Jackson for Fred Jackson, and no one bats any eye at it.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2013,11:52
Forked over Welker for Andre because I expect Keenum to lean on him like a mofo in the coming weeks.  The only time a trade deserves the veto is if some asshole is plainly taking advantage of a newbie.  Other than that, who gives a fuck?  Try the trade again with a crappier WR you get off waivers.  As for Jackson and Jackson ... eh, I'd prefer Fred right now, but just barely.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2013,14:18
Checklist of how fucked my team is today...

QB-WR combo bust?  Check.  Keenum and Andre did nothing.
AP and Jimmy Graham putting up more points than my team thus far?  Check.  Those two dudes alone have 41 points.
WR1 that consistently gets double digit games all year getting upstaged by WR3?  Check.  Jacoby Jones caught the bomb and Torrey Smith did nothing.

The only bright spot was Woodhead.  Chris Johnson, Gronk, Rueben Randle, and the Oakland D all need career games or I'm probably not getting my bye.  FUCK.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 24 2013,16:27
Both of my teams got rocked. I have an outside shot of winning in the family/friend league, but at least Stranger lost big too.

We play next week for the division crown.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 24 2013,16:38
And people wonder why I wanted to dump Andre Johnson.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2013,16:48

(TheCatt @ Nov. 24 2013,18:38)
QUOTE
And people wonder why I wanted to dump Andre Johnson.

They were playing fucking Jacksonville.  It wasn't just Andre that sucked.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 24 2013,16:49
And who called the Flynn move? Dead on.

He came in today and looked brilliant.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2013,16:50
Gronk needs to outscore RG3 by a shade over 15 points.  That's not impossible considering Washington's going against Frisco and the Pats visit Denver.  Swapping in Burleson for any of my WRs would've gone a big way towards helping that.

EDIT: 11 of those are due to a single reception from Jimmy Graham on Thursday.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2013,18:32
Did Denver get a real D or are the Pats just that bad on pass protection?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2013,20:16
Holy shit.  I'm still up by 1.6 points.  I'm fully expecting one solid RG3 play will fuck me over.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2013,20:29
0.6 thanks to that fucking scramble.  Come on FRISCO!!!
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 26 2013,10:37
Wow... that trade I proposed has caused DRAMA in the FF league. lolololololololololol
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 26 2013,19:33
Rodger-less Packers < throw > down the gauntlet.

Hey, Stranger, < now > the fans will know whose name to chant when Weeden gives away three turnovers by the first half.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 26 2013,19:36

(TheCatt @ Nov. 26 2013,12:37)
QUOTE
Wow... that trade I proposed has caused DRAMA in the FF league. lolololololololololol

I still can't believe you had enough women in your league veto the trade.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 27 2013,06:05
Josh Sitton is right. I think Detroit is the dirtiest team in the league.

If I'm Cleveland, I let Tanney start. Why not?

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 27 2013,06:08

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2013,12:30
And Nate Burleson with the goose egg right after I yank CJ for him.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2013,09:46
< Mike Tomlin >, professional dumb-ass.  Nice job, Tone Loc.  You may have cost your team upwards of $100K plus a draft pick.

EDIT: I was watching that game.  In my years of watching football, it's beyond rare to see the head coach of the kicking team looking directly opposite the kick returner screaming down the sidelines about to burn his special teams.  Of course, I also saw a kicker technically false start for what may have been the first time in history, so I understand weird shit occasionally happens.

However, the camera managed to catch Mike's smirking reaction after the play was over.  I'm convinced he knew what he was doing and did it quite intentionally.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 01 2013,09:48
Would be a great excuse for the Steelers if they wanted to fire him...
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2013,12:06
So I need a PPR win this week and I'm playing against the worst team in the league.

Naturally, he's starting Lev Bell, Alshon Jeffrey, and Mike Floyd, who are currently killing me.  Then I got the race between Andre Johnson, Garret Graham, and Case Keenum's shitty QB play.  Gronk's doing ok, but he's missed at least a couple targets he could've had for a score.  He's got Welker left.  I got Woodhead, Beast, and Russel Wilson.  Just fuck me.

It's a 3 div league, the weakest div leader is down one game to me and the other leader.  He's going to win because the fucktard playing him started DeAngelo Williams.  The other leader is going to win because he deepthroated Satan before the draft this year (leads in points for AND points against by substantial margins, all his starters are top ten).  I lose every tiebreaker for a bye week.  All the div leader have been on multi-game win streaks and I've barely kept up because I have at least one WR that consistently fucks me over.  FUCK YOU, Nate Burleson, fuck yo pizza-obsessed self.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 01 2013,14:04
My opponent has Jeffrey for 39 points, I have Vinatieri for 24... neither of us has any other player with >9 points.  7 players left between us.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2013,15:57
Just fuck.  If Woodhead wasn't sucking as well, I might have an outside chance of the Seahawks and Saints getting into a barnburner.  Bye week is fucked unless...

NO lights up Seattle's D.  One of the dudes who'd beat me on the tiebreak could lose if the worthless shithead playing him hadn't started DeAngelo Williams.  I need Brees and Pierre Thomas to go crazy with help from the Seahawks kicker.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 01 2013,16:10
Dude has manning, so im losing by 40, may as well pull the rest of my team and make sure I get 2nd draft pick :-)
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2013,18:49
Need about 60 points.  Fucked.  CJ scored 24.  Going to bet Wilson and Lynch combine for at least 36.  MotherFUCK.


Posted by Leisher on Dec. 02 2013,06:39
I'm beating Stranger by 16 for the division crown, and with a 1st round bye on the line.

He's got Jimmy Graham going tonight. I've got Lynch and the Seattle D.

I'm 9-3, he's 8-4, but he won the first match up, while I've outscored him on the year by 9 points. (Tiebreaker stuff) Only one other team kept pace with us, and he's 8-4, but holds both tiebreakers over Stranger. He's also got his game locked up.

I'm also trying to grab division winner and best record bonus cash...

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2013,10:52
< You're Washington >.  Your season is fucked.  RG3 has been playing like RG0.5.  Why not toss Cousins in?
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 02 2013,12:49
Because you were stupid to draft Cousins in the first place?

He deserves a shot, but benching RGIII will kill his confidence, and make your coaching staff look like morons.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2013,13:28

(Leisher @ Dec. 02 2013,14:49)
QUOTE
Because you were stupid to draft Cousins in the first place?

He deserves a shot, but benching RGIII will kill his confidence, and make your coaching staff look like morons.

Is letting him play, crash, and burn going to build it up?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2013,19:12
More than 27 points from Wilson + Lynch in the 2nd half?  Eh, maybe.  Maybe like a democrat's chance in Texas.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2013,19:53
Jeebus.  If NO can make this real and maybe I get a receiving TD and some garbage time from Lynch...
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2013,07:33
I knocked off Stranger for the division crown, a first week bye, and the #1 seed!

Not doing as well in my work league. Didn't realize it, but they play a 14 week season. Ugh. I'm a game back in my division at 7-6 tied with another team at 7-6 and a game behind the top two teams, both at 8-5. Ridiculous. Two fucking leagues, and I'm in the toughest division in each.

Anyway, I play the current #1 ranked team, and if I win, I think I put myself into the playoffs. We shall see.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2013,07:47
I'm playing the #6 seed who forgot to start a real RB last week.  I'm going to enjoy kicking his ass up and down the field.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2013,08:37
Cleveland finds < next > sacrificial victim.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2013,09:02
I'm pissed they're not starting Alex Tanney:

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2013,09:10
May as well.  Doesn't even matter anymore.  The only smart thing Cleveland did this season, apparently, was trade away T-Bitch.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 04 2013,08:26
< Tomlin fined. >

If they lose draft picks, I'm hoping they fire him.

I like Tomlin, but I think his success has been more about riding the ship that he inherited more than anything he has done.

And just so we're clear:

Potentially affecting a single play: $100,000 fine.

Actually affecting multiple games over a few years, including Super Bowls: $500,000 fine.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2013,19:20
Goddamn, Houston just plain sucks.  They could very well be the worst team in the NFL.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2013,19:45
Ace Sanders, Jaguars WR2 and my pick for breaking out next year.  Looking like a slightly better QB than Case Keenum.  How the fuck do you regress that badly since looking like Jesus walking on lava coming in to almost rescue shit in week 9 after Kubiak was felled by a mini-stroke?  Every time he's played and Gary wasn't carted off by an ambulance, he sucked.  Hmm, and Schaub is warming up.  Fuck.  Anyone hear "Taps?"  Come the fuck on and keep feeding Andre.  He's old but he can still do it.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2013,20:24
Andre the motherfucking giant.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 06 2013,06:37
I forgot the game was on.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2013,07:04

(Leisher @ Dec. 06 2013,09:37)
QUOTE
I forgot the game was on.

Probably for the best.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2013,09:07
< $200K > Seaman offer for Tebow.  HAHAHAHA.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2013,10:18
< Kubiak out. >  Case Keenum back in, probably just because he's not Schaub.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2013,10:51
Yeah, I don't really get the firing.  He's done really well, imho.  I guess it's rings or nothing.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2013,10:55

(TheCatt @ Dec. 06 2013,12:51)
QUOTE
Yeah, I don't really get the firing.  He's done really well, imho.  I guess it's rings or nothing.

1) They had championship contender aspirations this year and have dropped 11 in a row.

2) I think any state besides Texas would let this slide.  They probably fire high school coaches down there after 11 straight losses.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 06 2013,11:01
I don't understand the firing at this point either. Are you going to salvage your last 4 weeks to make the playoffs? No. So why fire him now? Why not wait until after the season?
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2013,11:16
Well, you lost foster to start the season, and your QB needed that crutch.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2013,12:13
< Campbell > starting.  Betting Caleb backs him up.  Good news for Josh Gordon unless Jason gets his bell rung again.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2013,10:29
So, Minnesota v. Baltimore in driving snow.  You'd figure the Vikes have it locked up except dome life has softened them up over the years.  Looks like Torrey Smith ain't doing anything.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2013,11:30
My 4 dudes going right now: combined 12 points.  11 is from the Bengals shutting out Indy.  But come the fuck on, Torrey Smith and Gronk blanked for the first half by the Vikes and Browns respectively?  WTF?
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 08 2013,13:47
My first snow game today was vs kc.. Sucked for was, but sucked early and fast enough we just enjoyed it.  Fuckibg cold.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2013,14:56
Torrey Smith: 1 catch ... Marlon fucking Brown, 8 catches.  Come the fuck on.  It's the fucking Vikes.  

Then Gronk gets killed, word is his ACL is done.  Hope Owen Daniels comes back next week because I got no other TEs.  Half my team got me about 10 points this week.  On the plus side, everyone else is doing respectably and the only dude my opponent has worth a shit right now is Larry Fitzy.  Brees, Pierre Thomas, and DeAngelo are all going later and I'm done after Marshawn, Russel, Woody, and CJ.  And fucking Shonn Greene has vultured two of my TDs.  WTF?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2013,16:34
And my seasons are over in both my leagues, even if I win the PPR game.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2013,17:09
About 38 points of cushion for his 3 dudes.  Hey Troy, your team's D has a chance to impress the hell out of me.
Posted by Paul on Dec. 08 2013,20:55
Today's game was interesting:

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 09 2013,05:09
I love football in the snow.  We we are FedEx yesterday, not as much snow, but still fun.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 09 2013,07:18
On a bye in my league with Stranger. Looks like he won. I think he'll be playing the other team that got a bye next week. Wish I was, that guy's team is decimated.

In my work league I'm currently beating the #1 ranked team by 13 points. He's got Jefferies tonight, and I've got Bailey. If I win, I think I beat him on the tie breaker putting me into the playoffs and eliminating him. Going to look at the math on that at lunch.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2013,13:44
< AP has obviously not > played enough in Philly.  Seriously, there can't be any fans worse than Philadelphia fans.  No, not even Detroit.  The Phillies, '76ers, Eagles, and Flyers all have legendary asshole fans notorious even among other asshole fans for their assholiness.

< Gronk tears multiple > things that take forever to heal.  While the hit was indeed legal, the league may have to decide if the tradeoff for things like this is worth it.  Every low shot has a chance to take away 1.5 seasons from someone's career.  Every high shot has a chance to cause significant neurological damage.  I wouldn't be shocked if the NFL started imposing some kind of size/weight limit on a per position basis.  Other than making it touch/flag football, there's no other way to cut down on the injuries.  Eventually, all the dudes with legs that took too many hits will band together like all the dudes whose heads took too many hits.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 09 2013,13:50
Skins fans were throwing some snowballs... almost hit players a few times.  Not a lot of them though (wasn't a ton of snow)
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2013,10:26
< NFL listens to Malcolm >.

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The good news, according to NFL sources, is that the competition committee will look at this issue after the season.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2013,12:14

(Malcolm @ Dec. 02 2013,12:52)
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< You're Washington >.  Your season is fucked.  RG3 has been playing like RG0.5.  Why not toss Cousins in?

< Malcolm predicts future >.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 10 2013,12:23
I was there when Cousins got into Sunday's game.
Me: Oh look, Cousins.  Guess they've given up.
Brother: C'mon, he's a good QB.  Maybe he'll give them a spark.
Me: He's not that good.
[Redskins proceed to score 0 more points]

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 11 2013,15:09
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McCown was named NFC offensive player of the week for his performance in Monday night's win over the Cowboys. He became the first Bears quarterback since 1972 to produce five touchdowns in a game, passing for a career-high four scores and running for another.

McCown threw for 348 yards, becoming the first quarterback in Bears history with three straight 300-yard games, and posted a career-high 141.9 passer rating.


So... of course the < Bears are planning to start Cutler >

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2013,10:14
< John Madden proves > he's old and insane.
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Football players have one job above all others: compete. It's at the heart of all professional athletic leagues.

No.  It's a job.  You want to make as much cash as possible for as long as possible.  If everyone competed to the utmost, you'd notice way more injuries.  These are not X-Box sprites.  I think his chances of improving in the last few games are smaller than his chances of getting hurt worse, physically or psychologically.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2013,10:32
< The new Bo >?
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 12 2013,10:37

(Malcolm @ Dec. 12 2013,13:14)
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< John Madden proves > he's old and insane.
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Football players have one job above all others: compete. It's at the heart of all professional athletic leagues.

No.  It's a job.  You want to make as much cash as possible for as long as possible.  If everyone competed to the utmost, you'd notice way more injuries.  These are not X-Box sprites.  I think his chances of improving in the last few games are smaller than his chances of getting hurt worse, physically or psychologically.

Every time I see a WR or RB run out of bounds instead of fighting/diving for 2-3 more yards, it drives me crazy.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2013,11:07
I wonder what Hoyer was thinking when he fought for those yards instead of sliding.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 12 2013,11:33

(Malcolm @ Dec. 12 2013,14:07)
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I wonder what Hoyer was thinking when he fought for those yards instead of sliding.

I didn't say QB.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 12 2013,12:00
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No.  It's a job.  You want to make as much cash as possible for as long as possible.  If everyone competed to the utmost, you'd notice way more injuries.  These are not X-Box sprites.  I think his chances of improving in the last few games are smaller than his chances of getting hurt worse, physically or psychologically.


I disagree with you.

To players like Albert Haynesworth, it is absolutely a job, and for assholes like him, not even that.

However, to the majority of the players, it's about competing. Players don't dive the extra yard for $50 more. They don't get into fights with teammates or coaches for cash. They don't cry during press conferences for gift cards. Russell Wilson isn't excited about baseball because he needs the extra cash to make ends meet.

The majority of players are there to win. Yes, they want that cash, and that's why they aren't exclusively loyal to one club or another, but they want to win.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2013,12:11
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Players don't dive the extra yard for $50 more.

They dive so they can get a better contract next time.  Some of them are playing for the legacy or the championship they never got, like Tony Gonzalez.  Not to say he isn't busting his ass.  Not coincidentally, players who are on the winning side tend to command better salaries.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 12 2013,12:21
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They dive so they can get a better contract next time.  Some of them are playing for the legacy or the championship they never got, like Tony Gonzalez.  Not to say he isn't busting his ass.  Not coincidentally, players who are on the winning side tend to command better salaries.


You are wrong. Actually, you aren't just wrong, you're batshit insane and ignoring the realities of human nature wrong.

I played football and played to win. Never made a dime. I played for the love of the game. Ditto for golf and tennis and basketball. I play poker and would hand someone the cash if I could win the bracelet my league hands out. I play League of Legends and get into arguments with my friends over it for zero money.

You're telling me that pro football players don't give a fuck about anything but money? Why is that exactly? Why do veterans risk their health on minimum contracts? For their legacies? I didn't realize you got royalties from your "legacy".

Let's talk about the morons who skip big paydays in less violent sports to play football for less money.

Sorry, but you are ridiculously wrong.

Yeah, there a players who just want that paycheck. We see it every year. However, the majority of those guys play for the love of the game.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2013,12:34
Minimum NFL salary for a practice squad dude for one season: $100K.

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I didn't realize you got royalties from your "legacy".

That's more ego or pride, which is the only thing I've seen that trumps wanting more money.

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You're telling me that pro football players don't give a fuck about anything but money?

I say they give more of a fuck about cash than they'd like to admit.  I'd say it's their #1 priority in a pro sport that could see their careers done in a single hit.  No one wants to be the next Jahvid Best.  Everyone would like to be the next Barry Sanders and retire at their peak.

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I played football and played to win. Never made a dime. I played for the love of the game. Ditto for golf and tennis and basketball. I play poker and would hand someone the cash if I could win the bracelet my league hands out. I play League of Legends and get into arguments with my friends over it for zero money.

I was unaware you played any of these professionally, as in "this is how I earn my living and pay my bills."  If you're doing it as a hobby, that's quite different.

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I play poker and would hand someone the cash if I could win the bracelet my league hands out.

And I bet a fuckload of NFL players would forgo their contractual bonuses to get some Super Bowl jewelry.  That's still ego.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2013,14:45
Hell, the entire PED thing in every fucking sport is about the money.  Why?  So you can get bigger and faster dudes.  Why?  To win more.  Why?  Because winning teams make more money, players on winning teams make more money.  There are some pathological cases where results don't matter much, e.g. Green Bay could go winless for 100 years and still sell out every home game, the Minnesota T-Wolves could win ten straight NBA championships and still have shit attendance, but for the most part, not as many fans go to see losers.  Ask the Montreal Expos.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 12 2013,17:13
OK, so QB has been a hell hole for me this year in fantasy.  Who would you start?
Eli Manning vs Seattle
EJ Manuel vs Tampa
Josh McCown vs Cleveland (Dipshit is back, and announced as starter)
Mike Glennon vs Buffalo
Jason Campbell vs Chicago

I'm leaning towards Campbell right now...

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2013,10:03
McCown, Glennon, Campbell, EJ.  Don't even think of starting Eli versus Seattle's D.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2013,10:12
McCown isn't even the planned starter.  You think they'll pull Cutler/he'll get injured that fast?
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 13 2013,10:18
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Minimum NFL salary for a practice squad dude for one season: $100K.


Minimum wage: $7 and change. What's your point?

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That's more ego or pride, which is the only thing I've seen that trumps wanting more money.


Which completely contradicts your argument.

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I say they give more of a fuck about cash than they'd like to admit.  I'd say it's their #1 priority in a pro sport that could see their careers done in a single hit.  No one wants to be the next Jahvid Best.  Everyone would like to be the next Barry Sanders and retire at their peak.


You seriously don't see what you're doing there?

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I was unaware you played any of these professionally, as in "this is how I earn my living and pay my bills."  If you're doing it as a hobby, that's quite different.


PCs are a hobby that I now get paid to work on. Sure, the money is great, but the fact that I don't hate waking up to go to work is a MUCH bigger factor in my happiness and satisfaction with my life.

P.S. I didn't realize professional athletes were training to go pro from the pee wee leagues. According to your logic, our primary motivation from birth is a bigger payday. Not love. Not to conquer ones enemies. Not to rule. Not to procreate. Nope. It's to make lots of Benjamins.

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And I bet a fuckload of NFL players would forgo their contractual bonuses to get some Super Bowl jewelry.  That's still ego.


And again, ego proves my point right, and your point wrong.

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Hell, the entire PED thing in every fucking sport is about the money.  Why?  So you can get bigger and faster dudes.  Why?  To win more.  Why?  Because winning teams make more money, players on winning teams make more money.  There are some pathological cases where results don't matter much, e.g. Green Bay could go winless for 100 years and still sell out every home game, the Minnesota T-Wolves could win ten straight NBA championships and still have shit attendance, but for the most part, not as many fans go to see losers.  Ask the Montreal Expos.


I don't know what that has to do with anything.

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McCown, Glennon, Campbell, EJ.  Don't even think of starting Eli versus Seattle's D.


I would look at Glennon or EJ.

Campbell has Gordon, but Chicago is no slouch.

I think my first choice would be Glennon, but if you go with him and you lose, don't blame me.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2013,10:31

(TheCatt @ Dec. 13 2013,12:12)
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McCown isn't even the planned starter.  You think they'll pull Cutler/he'll get injured that fast?

Cutler's in?  Well, damn.  I've not been paying attention lately.  Then it's down to Glennon or Campbell.  Glennon is playing Frisco this week, dude, not Buffalo.  Buffalo is playing Jacksonville.

Hmm, let's check Campbell and EJ, then.  Actually, fuck it.  Jacksonville has been doing well against mediocre teams as of late, so I wouldn't trust rookie EJ.  Much as I hate to say it, even with no running game, I'd still take Jason at home versus Da Bears.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2013,10:36
Seattle/SF are both top 3 for point defense.  Chicago/Jax are both bottom 5.  That makes me lean Manuel or Campbell.    And since Manual has sucked so badly since the injury, that leads me to Campbell.

If McCown were starting, he'd be a no-brainer.  But since Chicago's coach is a no-brainer....

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2013,10:36
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Minimum wage: $7 and change. What's your point?

Minimum wage in the NFL is $100K, guaranteed.

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I don't know what that has to do with anything.

The owners and players of NHL, MLB, NBA, and NFL do not make the integrity of the game their #1 concern.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2013,10:38
Jason's got both Flash Gordon and J-Cam, either of whom could end up destroying Chicago's secondary.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 13 2013,11:28
Campbell has Josh Gordon...

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Minimum wage in the NFL is $100K, guaranteed.


Still don't see the point.

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The owners and players of NHL, MLB, NBA, and NFL do not make the integrity of the game their #1 concern.


Still has no relevance on anything.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2013,12:02
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Still don't see the point.

There aren't a lot of careers I know where the bottom rung, entry level job is a $100K lock from day one.  Most of them won't make it as stars and most will wash out at some point, but that amount of cash still makes me question pretty much everyone's  "dedication to the game" since most players don't give me a way to uncouple it from their dedication to their paycheck.

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Still has no relevance on anything.

The integrity of the game went up against money.  Money won.

If the NHL wanted more integrity, they'd make fights illegal.
If the NBA wanted more integrity, they'd start making them play fucking basketball by the goddamn rules.
If MLB wanted more integrity, they'd start permabanning the juicers.
Etc.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 13 2013,12:48
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There aren't a lot of careers I know where the bottom rung, entry level job is a $100K lock from day one.  Most of them won't make it as stars and most will wash out at some point, but that amount of cash still makes me question pretty much everyone's  "dedication to the game" since most players don't give me a way to uncouple it from their dedication to their paycheck.


You think $100k annually for a job you could have for less than a year to 15 years is striking it rich?

You're certainly overlooking a LOT to make that conclusion. You should be on Mythbusters!  :D

Maybe the pay is that high BECAUSE of what you're overlooking? Nah! That can't be it!

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If the NHL wanted more integrity, they'd make fights illegal.


What? Explain?

FYI: It's been argued by a lot of people that fighting hurts their mainstream appeal. That is contrary to your position...

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If the NBA wanted more integrity, they'd start making them play fucking basketball by the goddamn rules.


And this has to do with the players and not the owners how exactly?

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If MLB wanted more integrity, they'd start permabanning the juicers.


Again, this is because of the players' greed, how?

I'm sorry Malcolm, but your argument just isn't making sense, and honestly, it's kind of going all over the map.

Based on your stance in this thread, the following statements are true:
-People play sports for the love of the game, and out of competitive spirit, however once they receive a paycheck, they only play the game in the name of greed. (Ok, the majority...)
-Ego has nothing to do with a person's competitive spirit.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 15 2013,10:54
So far:
Campbell 1
Manning 0
McCown 0
Manuel 0
Glennon 0

I should have picked up Cousins.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 15 2013,16:47
Well, Campbell was decent.

My big mistake was benching Garcon cuz I thought Cousins would suck.  Losing by 3, otherwise would be up 15.

KC D had 19 today

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 15 2013,17:07
Oh, and this is the week I also cut Matt Flynn.  Maybe I need a new fantasy coach.
Posted by Paul on Dec. 15 2013,18:15

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 15 2013,18:59
Just won my playoff match up against Stranger. Heading to our league's Super Bowl.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2013,17:14
There's < insurance > for everything.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 17 2013,06:28
< Justin Tucker is awesome. >

During his post-game, but still on the field interview, he started thanking himself on behalf of his fantasy team, and gave a shout out to fantasy owners who had him.

Fucking hilarious.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2013,09:56
Given Gronk is dead, I'm vaguely considering wasting my last keeper spot on him.

EDIT: I take it back.  Some sources have him marked as ready for the beginning of 2014.  No fucking way.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 17 2013,12:14
Well, you should use him in 2014 for the 4-5 games he'll actually play!
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2013,12:27

(Leisher @ Dec. 17 2013,14:14)
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Well, you should use him in 2014 for the 4-5 games he'll actually play!

6.5 games active this year, and with two weeks to go, he's still #15 in my league.  Besides, I think a football helmet to the knee knocks out anyone.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 22 2013,13:45
Indy's shitty D stops Jamaal?  St. Louis and Carolina seem real again, in spite of having no passing games.  Meanwhile, the Vikings continue to look bad against any team above "horrible."  Drew Brees looks old and confused.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 22 2013,23:27
In our championship, I was the #1 seed at 11-3, but a 15 point underdog. My day started with Peyton racking up no real points through 2 and a half quarters. Despite that, my opponent and I were neck and neck. He had 4 guys going in the early games, I had three: Peyton, Donald Brown, and Viniteari.

By the end of the early games, we were locked at 75 each.

That's when I got out to a slight lead behind Sanders, Lynch (worst day all year), and Seattle's D (0 points).

The night game was coming and I had a 4 point lead with Cooper to go, while he had Forte and Jackson. I congratulated him on his victory. Then Forte and Jackson went scoreless for 3 quarters, while Cooper scored.

Current score 99-91 in my favor and I still have Crabtree tomorrow night. He's out of players!

I won the league!


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 23 2013,13:47
Aaron Hernandez's buddy was < high as fuck > during car crash.
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The drugs detected included cocaethylene, cocaine, phencyclidine – commonly known as PCP or angel dust – benzoylecgonine, and oxycodone. The report also detected ethanol, police said.

Holy goddamn.  Probably challenging enough to turn the car on at that point, let alone drive it.  Makes the Wayne Brady ride-a-long episode from Chappelle look tame.



Posted by Stranger on Dec. 30 2013,05:35
Steelers... 3 coaches since 1969, started 0-4 and damn near made the playoffs yesterday. great organization

Browns...3 coaches since 2012 (next coach will make 3), started 3-2 and lost 10 of last 11 games. The pinnacle of a losing organization, in all sports.

Ravens...2 pro-bowlers
Steelers...2 pro-bowlers
Bengals...3 pro-bowlers
Browns...5 pro-bowlers?!?!?!?

What the fuck is going on here?!

I guess Chud should have been fired because the way the team quit on him the last 75% of the season. But i don't give this front office any kudos, what coach wants to work for this piece of shit organization.

Word out of Cleveland is that they will go hard after Penn State HC Bill O'brian.  He has strong ties to Clevelands GM Mike Lombardi from their time in New England but i'm not sold on the dude myself.  To me it just looks like were trying to get Bill Bellichick again.. and we tried that twice already.  Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini were miserable failures here too.  

I'm at my wits end with this team.  Nothing will every change.  Its just too hard to be a fan of this organization anymore.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2013,08:16
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I'm at my wits end with this team.  Nothing will every change.  Its just too hard to be a fan of this organization anymore.

Being a Cleveland fan is punishment for cheering for the wrong team in your previous life, probably also Cleveland.

Posted by Stranger on Dec. 30 2013,08:40
The worst thing is that the fans are left holding the bag EVERY. SINGLE. TIME!  

The Browns cut Chud a $10 million dollar check to get outta town.. He made $13 mil in 11 months of service, i don't for one second feel sorry for the guy.

Mike Holmgren.. Fleeced the organization for a whopping $40 million to be our QB guru.  In return we got Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace, Colt McCoy, and Brandon Weedon.  

Then our Billionair owner who is in big trouble with the feds.  Asks the city for tax dollars to improve the shitty stadium that was so hastily built in 1999.  And the city agreed...

What has the poor Cleveland fan done to deserve shit shoved in our faces on such an epic scale?! really, every time i think to myself "it can't get any worse" or "wow! nothing can top that"  it does!!!

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 30 2013,10:17
< Steelers should have made playoffs. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2013,10:19
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What has the poor Cleveland fan done to deserve shit shoved in our faces on such an epic scale?! really, every time i think to myself "it can't get any worse" or "wow! nothing can top that"  it does!!!

I'm eager to see how they piss away the pick they got from Indy.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2013,11:19

(TheCatt @ Dec. 30 2013,12:17)
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< Steelers should have made playoffs. >

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"Obviously, there's a lot of work that needs to be done from an officiating standpoint," Tomlin said of the series of high-profile mistakes made this season. "I think it's been played out, well documented over the last several weeks -- not only in the stadiums that we played in but others."

Yeah, like that time they didn't call a penalty on you fucking up the Baltimore return down the sideline.

Posted by Stranger on Dec. 30 2013,11:35

(Malcolm @ Dec. 30 2013,13:19)
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I'm eager to see how they piss away the pick they got from Indy.

can you say Johnny Paul Football Manziel?... God help me if they do.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2013,11:36

(Stranger @ Dec. 30 2013,13:35)
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(Malcolm @ Dec. 30 2013,13:19)
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I'm eager to see how they piss away the pick they got from Indy.

can you say Johnny Paul Football Manziel?... God help me if they do.

Maybe he can < share a cell with Ryan Leaf > in a few years.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 30 2013,11:40
This is why the Browns-Steelers rivalry isn't fun anymore. It's not just that the team is awful, but the constant shit piled upon the Browns' fans.

As for the Steelers' playoffs hopes, yeah the officials fucked them in that San Diego game, but the Steelers fucked themselves by starting 0-4, and continuing their new tradition of losing in Oakland each year.

They might be a playoff team, but they've got some work to do in that defensive secondary before they are a true contender.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 30 2013,13:40
Pinch me, Panthers

I remember thinking at 1-3 that meaningful football was over and also being angry that it was already time to start talking about the draft in week 4.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 30 2013,14:20

(Troy @ Dec. 30 2013,16:40)
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Pinch me, Panthers

I remember thinking at 1-3 that meaningful football was over and also being angry that it was already time to start talking about the draft in week 4.

I felt the same about the Skins.. except of course, we have no draft this year.

So... Go Panthers!

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2013,18:30
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I felt the same about the Skins.. except of course, we have no draft this year.

Think the Rams may be going o-line.  I've yet to see Bradford get time to throw consistently.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 31 2013,09:42

(TheCatt @ Dec. 30 2013,10:17)
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< Steelers should have made playoffs. >

Shocked and appalled I say. Shocked! AND! APPALLED!

no just kidding everyone hates the Steelers

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 31 2013,11:35
Except for the fact that they're always in the top ten for number of fans, gear sold, #1 annually in Away attendance, etc.

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no just kidding everyone hates the Steelers


Why do people hate winners so much? By all accounts, the Steelers are the classiest organization in the NFL. The best owners, they don't fire coaches, they jettison attitudes, they don't pretend to be the Cowboys or Redskins in free agency, etc. Yet here's a Carolina (CAROLINA!) fan taking a shot at them. We've played Carolina, three times ever, maybe?

I'd say people hate Carolina, but they've never done anything to get anyone's attention. ZING!

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 31 2013,12:42
< This is reason enough to hate 29 teams in the league.  Fucking cheaters. >

But nothing specific about the Steelers.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 31 2013,13:10
The Redskins and Cowboys have something in common that prevents them from winning.

Bad ownership.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 31 2013,19:04

(Leisher @ Dec. 31 2013,11:35)
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Why do people hate winners so much? By all accounts, the Steelers are the classiest organization in the NFL.
I'd say people hate Carolina, but they've never done anything to get anyone's attention. ZING!

I think it's a combination of the endless national media attention and the perception of dirty players.

Just because James Harrison doesn't play for you now doesn't mean he didn't exist. He was real classy.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 31 2013,23:48

(Troy @ Dec. 31 2013,22:04)
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(Leisher @ Dec. 31 2013,11:35)
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Why do people hate winners so much? By all accounts, the Steelers are the classiest organization in the NFL.
I'd say people hate Carolina, but they've never done anything to get anyone's attention. ZING!

I think it's a combination of the endless national media attention and the perception of dirty players.

Just because James Harrison doesn't play for you now doesn't mean he didn't exist. He was real classy.

I didn't realize the Steelers locked up "dirty players" because of James Harrison. I honestly always thought Harrison was just an aggressive asshole, and not dirty.

I also didn't realize Carolina was filled with classy, church going types. Did they cut Steve Smith and Cam Newton?

Every team has those kinds of players. Every team. That's the world of professional athletes, and every team's fans think the other team has dirty players.

As for the national attention, they get that because they win. The Steelers and the Cowboys are #1 and 2 for winning percentage since the merger. The Steelers have the most Super Bowl victories, and are either alone or tied for most Super Bowl appearances. They have the second longest current streak of winning seasons (10). And again, see my previous post about their attendance, gear sold, etc. That's why you hear about them.

Ditto for New England who has the current longest streak of winning seasons.

The Cowboys get more press than anyone, and that's why a lot of folks hate them.

National media attention is why so many people hate the Jets right now. Because apparently, they're ESPN's favorite team.

It's why people hate the Yankees and Red Sox.

The fact is if it didn't sell, they wouldn't be putting these teams at the forefront. Funny how the MSM wants to talk about relevant teams. The flex was installed for Sunday night football so NBC could air important games instead of the Giants vs Tampa Bay.

Let the Panthers get a few glory years where everyone talks about them, and watch how fast other fan bases start to hate them citing bullshit like "dirty players".

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 01 2014,00:28
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I also didn't realize Carolina was filled with classy, church going types. Did they cut Steve Smith and Cam Newton?

To quote one of the MNF football announcers, "If I ever go into a dark alley, I want Steve Smith to have my back."

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It's why people hate the Yankees and Red Sox.

Unless you're looking to make the Steelers look like default pariah douchebags, don't say this.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 01 2014,10:24

(Malcolm @ Jan. 01 2014,03:28)
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It's why people hate the Yankees and Red Sox.

Unless you're looking to make the Steelers look like default pariah douchebags, don't say this.

That would be true if the reader was ignoring the context of the statement.

It's about MSM coverage and hype, not about the teams themselves.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 01 2014,11:52

(Leisher @ Jan. 01 2014,12:24)
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(Malcolm @ Jan. 01 2014,03:28)
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It's why people hate the Yankees and Red Sox.

Unless you're looking to make the Steelers look like default pariah douchebags, don't say this.

That would be true if the reader was ignoring the context of the statement.

It's about MSM coverage and hype, not about the teams themselves.

The Yankees and Sox don't need media help to make people hate them.  When I think of either of those teams, my first reaction is always, "Fuckers trying to buy another championship."  < Yep, both top 4 >.  I can't apply that to the Steelers.  They remind me more of the Red Wings.  "Oh, it's those fuckers again.  Break out the chains and broken bottles, time to go to war."

I have no great love for Pittsburgh but I don't have any great hate for them, either.  Do they get lots of media attention?  Yeah, being the oldest AFC team will do that.  They typically end up at least being competitive, too.

As for Carolina ... hmm, didn't Pittsburgh outscore Carolina this year?  < I'll be damned, yes they did >.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 01 2014,12:11

(Malcolm @ Jan. 01 2014,14:52)
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As for Carolina ... hmm, didn't Pittsburgh outscore Carolina this year?  < I'll be damned, yes they did >.

That stat is pretty meaningless.  Compare the +9 to +125 differential between points scored and allowed.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 01 2014,12:38
QUOTE
The Yankees and Sox don't need media help to make people hate them.  When I think of either of those teams, my first reaction is always, "Fuckers trying to buy another championship."


That is true, but they also get a ton of love from the East Coast media because of who they are, and not just what they spend. Remember, we've been watching EVERY FUCKING Yankee-Red Sox game on national TV since before the Red Sox started spending Yankee cash.

QUOTE
That stat is pretty meaningless.  Compare the +9 to +125 differential between points scored and allowed.


I agree with that. At the end of the day, the only stat that matters is wins.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 02 2014,17:57
< Kluwe's back >.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 02 2014,18:25
Kluwe lost his humor and become a left wing nut job a long time ago.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 02 2014,19:05
That's slander territory.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2014,07:02
I read the whole Deadspin thing today.  He seems to think the org was out to get him, and has 1 or 2 damming quotes about his special teams coach.  Can't tell if the quotes were serious, or just trying to get Kluwe's goat.

Basically, sounds like they didn't like him speaking out, the special teams coach especially, and that + his salary got him canned.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2014,09:50
Meanwhile other players on the team said the coach never said that stuff. And the salary and Kluwe's stats justified the firing.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2014,10:11
I'm pretty sure Kluwe is smart enough to know he could get sued for slander/libel.  I don't think he made it up.  People still on the team, working for that coach, aren't exactly 100% reliable.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2014,11:33
< Reseed > by record?
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2014,11:52

(Malcolm @ Jan. 03 2014,14:33)
QUOTE
< Reseed > by record?

No.  Hell no.

The other people in your division are the only 3 teams who played the same 14 opponents you did.  Make the divisions mean something.  I love that last week of football with the division games across the board.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 04 2014,17:21
Damn.  KC collapsed like Anderson Silva's leg.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2014,12:47
Flacco and Dalton have to be neck and neck for "QB that most crippled his team's postseason chances" award.  Least Dalton got in, though.  Damn, he looks bad, like Mark Sanchez's long-lost ginger brother.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2014,13:30
< More wildcards >?
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 08 2014,17:30
< What.  The.  Fuck. >
I don't know who the Bears' GM is, but he should be fired.  Actually, he should have been fired two weeks ago, apparently.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2014,07:17
< Inmate suing the NFL because the Steelers aren't in the playoffs. >

I love his demands, and I love that the last one is basically, "And if you can't make any of those things happen, give me money."

Gotta love our legal system that allows for bullshit lawsuits like this to happen.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2014,08:03

(TheCatt @ Jan. 08 2014,19:30)
QUOTE
< What.  The.  Fuck. >
I don't know who the Bears' GM is, but he should be fired.  Actually, he should have been fired two weeks ago, apparently.

Still not as bad as the Flacco deal.  Close second, though.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2014,10:16
< Skins hire Gruden... the other one. >
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2014,10:25
Did you see Whisenhut(sp?) is interviewing Thursday, Friday, and Saturday this week for three different teams?

Thank goodness he's not a coach for a team that's currently in the playoffs or he'd miss all those practices...

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2014,11:09
Maybe he made those plans before this past weekend's games?  I mean, who really thought SD would win?
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2014,11:27
< Big Ben going nowhere >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2014,12:18
Peyton Manning, fan of < crappy beer >.


Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 13 2014,12:27
Bud Light is fine.  You fucking egoist piece of shit cocksucker.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2014,12:48

(TheCatt @ Jan. 13 2014,14:27)
QUOTE
Bud Light is fine.  You fucking egoist piece of shit cocksucker.

Grow up in that town and drive by that stank-ass brewery a few hundred times.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 13 2014,13:03
Man... I just wanted to get a rise out of you.

*Edit* But not in that special Gordon-Cake way.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2014,13:15

(TheCatt @ Jan. 13 2014,15:03)
QUOTE
Man... I just wanted to get a rise out of you.

*Edit* But not in that special Gordon-Cake way.

< Someone > is trying to bring respect back to the name, at least.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 15 2014,04:44
The Redskins got a coach, but < no one wants to coach the Browns. >

Let that sink in.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 15 2014,06:46
I don't even know how to comment on the Browns anymore.

I don't understand their infatuation with Gase either. Are we all supposed to pretend that Peyton isn't calling the offense there just like he did in Indy?

Meanwhile, the other of the two worst teams since the merger Detroit,  < hired Jim Caldwell >, which is just fantastic. I've missed seeing the lifeless Art Shell on the sidelines, and Caldwell does a damn fine impersonation.

Caldwell was 26-22 in three seasons as head coach of the Colts. Two of those seasons he had Peyton Manning at QB. The other resulted in his team getting the number one pick from their two wins. Rumor has it that Baltimore was discussing firing him. Good hire Detroit!



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 15 2014,06:53
Yeah, I don't understand that hire much.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 15 2014,07:31
< NFL Hipster Logos >

The Buffalo one (text) is my favorite so far.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 16 2014,10:17
< Seahawks fan makes bet >.  With money and ink.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 16 2014,10:38
Peyton Manning: questionable for his choice of beer, questionable for his < choice of coaches >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 17 2014,10:25
Kellen Winslow, synthetic bud, and Vaseline.  < 3 things found in an SUV >.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 18 2014,15:51
Oh Vikings... < Good news for Green Bay continues. >

< Browns' Top Candidate Rumoured to Reject Them in Future. >

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 18 2014,17:35
A coach from Cincinnati plus another from Cleveland.  The NFL pedigree just screams championship.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 19 2014,15:03
Pats minus Gronk come up short.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 19 2014,15:49

(Malcolm @ Jan. 19 2014,18:03)
QUOTE
Pats minus Gronk come up short.

Go home, fuckers.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2014,16:40

(TheCatt @ Jan. 19 2014,18:49)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 19 2014,18:03)
QUOTE
Pats minus Gronk come up short.

Go home, fuckers.

Seconded.

Super Bowl victories since they were caught cheating: 0



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 19 2014,17:26
Touch football league is back.

And the Seahawks can go fuck themselves too.  Cheaters through and through.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2014,18:27
Ouch. The leg isn't supposed to do that...

What play set you off Catt?

I'm rooting for both teams to somehow lose. Hate Carroll and Harbaugh.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 19 2014,18:33
No particular play.  The numerous drug suspensions.  The < CONSTANT >pass interference/holding that never gets called.

Don't really care for Carroll.  I like Harbaugh.  can't say I know him, but I empathize with his < pants > situations.  Wife always wants me to buy new clothes. I hate wasting money on clothes.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2014,18:42
Harbaugh is from Toledo. So he's a hometown guy. I still hate him. He's an asshole, and he went to Michigan...although, that's redundant.

I don't like Carroll either. He escaped punishment for cheating by running to the NFL.

I have to pick one, so I'm rooting for Seattle to keep SF away from the Steelers' records.

Go Peyton!

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 19 2014,18:55
Yeah... Go Peyton, go Broncos.  Go John Fox.  I always liked him at Carolina.


Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2014,18:56
Richard Sherman is the biggest piece of shit in the league.

If not for the NFL, he'd be serving 5-life.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2014,19:53
From Bill Simmons' latest column:

Q: We need to be prepared for the very real possibility that the two teams playing in the Super Bowl will be representing the only two states that legalized marijuana. I think before we go any further, don’t we need to come up with a name ASAP? The best I could do is the Smoke-A-Bowl. I know you and your readers can do better.
—Scott M, Chicago, IL

SG: I narrowed it down to five choices that would definitely be sponsored by Taco Bell, Sour Patch Kids and Cheetos: The Weed Bowl, the 420 Bowl, the Pot Bowl, the Smoke-A-Bowl, or the Doobie Bowl. (Thinking.) Wait a second, why am I narrowing this down? What could possibly be better than the Doobie Bowl?! Could somebody make sure Michael McDonald and Patrick Simmons are on call minute by minute just in case?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 19 2014,20:15

(Leisher @ Jan. 19 2014,20:56)
QUOTE
Richard Sherman is the biggest piece of shit in the league.

If not for the NFL, he'd be serving 5-life.

Suh.  Sherman's a dick, so's Tate, and a lot of people on that team.  But Ndamukong is worse.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2014,22:02

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 20 2014,07:10


The Brady one is the most likely to be real.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 20 2014,07:33
I love the Andy Dalton one.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 20 2014,07:35

(Leisher @ Jan. 20 2014,01:02)
QUOTE

If anyone thinks college athletics are serious, tell me how that fucker got into Stanford?

QUOTE
Sherman reports a 3.9 GPA/990 SAT/1060 retake.

I got a better SAT in 8th grade.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2014,09:16
The Belichcik e-mail is awesome.


Posted by Troy on Jan. 20 2014,09:21
Whatever, fuck the 49ers. I don't give nearly enough shits about Sherman to care since he made that play and stopped the 49ers from advancing.

I also scored higher than him on the SATs in 7th grade, but for an NFL athlete, that's downright scholarly.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2014,09:41
< Bill blames Wes >.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 20 2014,10:02
QUOTE
Whatever, fuck the 49ers.


Still pissed about last week? Been there.

One of the reasons I hate the Patriots is their repeated wins against the Steelers in the AFC Championship game.

Of course, they haven't been able to do that since they were caught cheating...

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 20 2014,11:41
Denver's pick offense vs Seahawks hold em defense
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 20 2014,11:49
They're already making history with the line.

Several Vegas books opened with different lines. Anywhere from Seattle -3 to the Broncos -1. Only that single book had the Broncos as favorites when betting opened.

Now, due to record money being thrown on the Broncos, they're favorites everywhere at -2.5.

Wow.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2014,11:51
Denver's got more quality receiving options than Seattle has pass rush and secondary options.  Both Denver's offense and Seattle's defense are showing up.  The real question is does Seattle's sometimes anemic offense choke against Denver's maybe above average defense?
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 21 2014,08:41
< No more PATs >?
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 21 2014,10:03
If he means "PATriots", I'm all for it.

Nobody is under more fire than the kickers. I'll bet the ultimate goal is to eliminate them.

Horrible idea considering how many games are won and lost based on field goals.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 21 2014,11:58
< Brady to Bellichick >.  Heh.
QUOTE
Then again, maybe we do know. I'll never say it publicly, but it was pretty obvious to me the Denver Broncos are a better football team than we are. They have more weapons than we do.

Hell, everyone does!!

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 23 2014,16:01
< An article on the Browns' new coach. >

It's kind of a must read to really get a look at why they're the Cleveland Browns.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2014,12:01
< Steelers get an O-Line Coach >

Sounds like quite an upgrade.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2014,13:39
Yeah, the "experts" are really high on this move. They also expect the Steelers to go very heavy on defense in the draft. The current first round prediction is Notre Dame's nosetackle. He's the best in the draft, and apparently, the Steelers are high on him.

I expect they'll also grab a fast receiver.

In different news, Fox Sports is reporting that the NFL is prepared to postpone the Super Bowl until Monday if bad weather hits. Now I'm hoping for bad weather so the NFL can enjoy the backlash from millions of fans who organized Super Bowl parties.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2014,15:35
I can't figure out how baseball and football don't get their execs together and say, "If you want to play in the ice, wind, and snow during the regular season, fucking fine, we don't care, freeze to death.  But by goddamn we have a schedule to keep in the postseason and if you want to see a playoff game in your stadium it'd better have a fucking dome or some historically clement weather, assholes."
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2014,16:12
If it snows, YOU PLAY IN THE SNOW.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 24 2014,16:31
If it's a heavy snow game, I might actually watch my first Superbowl.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2014,18:44
Super Bowl Monday sounds like shit.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 30 2014,10:51
< Kaep on Sherman >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 31 2014,13:05
< Coby Fleener: >
QUOTE
The September trade that sent Trent Richardson from Cleveland to Indianapolis for a 2014 first-round draft pick was supposed to serve as a final piece of the puzzle for a young Colts team bursting with promise ...

"I still think it was a great trade for us," Fleener told Around The League on Friday. "Our front office has done an awesome job putting together teams from Day One. I think that acquisition is going to be huge for us and pay dividends in the future."


< Rams moving >?

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 03 2014,07:31
That was the worst Super Bowl I've ever experienced.

Zero excitement. Even the commercials were all shit.

The only decent one was the Doritos Time Machine commercial.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 03 2014,07:38
I liked the Radio Shack 80s one.  I gave up on the game and commercials at half time.
Posted by Troy on Feb. 03 2014,07:46
Suck. But that's why you hedge your bets and go to a party. Imbibe and have a good time.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2014,07:56

(Leisher @ Feb. 03 2014,09:31)
QUOTE
That was the worst Super Bowl I've ever experienced.

Zero excitement. Even the commercials were all shit.

The only decent one was the Doritos Time Machine commercial.

That was one TD away from being the worst Super Bowl of all-time.  Even with that, it's still top 3 worst.

I had to check, double- and triple-check the following:

1) It was Peyton and not Eli.  Confirmed with a shot of Eli sitting in the stands.

2) It was Peyton and not Tebow throwing right-handed.

3) It wasn't the Buffalo Bills of the early '90s trying for one last shot at glory.

Best commercial I saw was the Full House one.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 03 2014,08:22
Clearly you missed this commercial




Posted by Leisher on Feb. 03 2014,08:24
QUOTE
Best commercial I saw was the Full House one.


Full House? Really?

And the Broncos simply sucked. They looked like they weren't even trying. Receivers weren't running their routes well or even at top speed. The defense couldn't wrap anyone up. Peyton had good numbers, but if he called the offense, he was terrible. The middle of the Seahawks defense was vulnerable the entire game. Why did they keep trying to throw out routes? Why on 4th and 2 when you're at the right hash, would you try and throw a 5 yard out to the left sideline? "We need two yards, so let's throw a 30 yard pass!"

Simply horrible.

That all being said, people who are putting the blame on Manning are fucking retards. One interception was his fault. The other was his line's fault. He didn't snap that ball when he wasn't there either. I thought his team completely let him down.

Posted by Stranger on Feb. 03 2014,08:35
While i wouldn't put the fault on Manning, they got beat in all three phases.  i would certainly say that Payton didn't look at all the same.

Usually i watch Manning and he's up at the line of scrimmage pointing out the defense, giving hard snap counts, changing play calls,  saying "Omaha"... but really, he didn't do any of that shit last night.  He would walk up to the line and the snap was in his hands.  It was like after that first snap of the game they went away from that and just went with a simple gameplan.  

I think Manning should have tried to pick apart that defense better than he did last night.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 03 2014,10:09

(Troy @ Feb. 03 2014,10:46)
QUOTE
Suck. But that's why you hedge your bets and go to a party. Imbibe and have a good time.

I bet Peyton wishes he had taken your advice.

My wife was sick, we were going nowhere.  And besides, go to do some Rust.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2014,10:15
The Super Bowl this year was so bad, I thought it was last year's Pro Bowl.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2014,10:35
Dude Aaron Hernandez shot < gets shot again >.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 03 2014,10:49

(Malcolm @ Feb. 03 2014,13:15)
QUOTE
The Super Bowl this year was so bad, I thought it was last year's Pro Bowl.

This year's pro bowl was actually decent, the parts I saw.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2014,11:24

(TheCatt @ Feb. 03 2014,12:49)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Feb. 03 2014,13:15)
QUOTE
The Super Bowl this year was so bad, I thought it was last year's Pro Bowl.

This year's pro bowl was actually decent, the parts I saw.

They ought to let Deion and Jerry pick the teams for the championship next year.
Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 03 2014,11:53

(TheCatt @ Feb. 03 2014,09:38)
QUOTE
I liked the Radio Shack 80s one.

Funny commercial, but it just served to make me even less likely to shop there.

I was excited at first, because back in the 80s Radio Shack was a wonderful store full of awesome electrical components and goodies you couldn't get anywhere else.  If they took Radio Shack back to what they were in the 80s, I'd practically live in the store.

Not what they were trying to say, though, sadly.  They're determined to stick with their miniature Best Buy vibe.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 05 2014,10:36
< Cassel > gets the fuck out of Dodge.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 05 2014,10:51
If I'm a GM, I'm thinking "wait for a future draft" on QBs....

QUOTE
Other quarterbacks who are currently free agents include Kellen Clemens, Matt Flynn, Josh Freeman (who ended his season as a weekly inactive for the Vikings), David Garrard, Rex Grossman, Chad Henne, Shaun Hill, former Minnesota draft pick Tarvaris Jackson, Jon Kitna and Michael Vick

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 05 2014,10:55
< CBS gets Thursday Night Football >
Posted by Troy on Feb. 05 2014,12:27
Tavaris Jackson is a Superbowl-winning QB. How can you not love that?


Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 05 2014,12:49

(Troy @ Feb. 05 2014,14:27)
QUOTE
Tavaris Jackson is a Superbowl-winning spectating QB. How can you not love that?

He contributed to that win about as much as I did.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 10 2014,10:09
< Two senators threatening the NFL over the Redskins. >

< Missouri DE entering the draft comes out. >

He wasn't considered a top prospect going into the draft. Still, when he's selected in the 4th, 5th, 6th, or 7th round (where he was projected), I'm sure people will be complaining that he was taken late because he's gay.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 10 2014,10:24
QUOTE
"You're getting a tax break for educational purposes, but you're still embracing a name that people see as a slur and encouraging it," Cantwell told The New York Times.

Uh ... what?  Educational?

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 11 2014,10:44
< The circus continues in Cleveland. >

Honestly, this might be a good move in that Banner and Lombardi were awful, and their original hiring stunned a lot of people.

However, the timing really makes one question Haslam. This isn't on Banner and Lombardi, it's on him. This is his failure.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 11 2014,11:06
Yeah, Haslam looks like a dude I wouldn't want to work for.
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 12 2014,04:48
This is something that needed to be done.  The timing is odd, but when coach after coach turned this team down Haslam saw just how toxic this front office really was.

During the search, the Browns drew widespread criticism from local and national quarters for creating an organization deemed “toxic,” “radioactive” and “dysfunctional.” While Haslam continued to fiercely defend the Browns and the city of Cleveland as an NFL destination, his actions spoke loudly that he agreed something was very wrong with the organization.

“I think he should be applauded for the fact that when there was a tough decision to be made, he looked at it in the eye, he stepped up and made the decision,” Farmer said. “I think that’s what you want from somebody who’s in control in this league, somebody who’s not afraid to make the tough decision regardless of what the public backlash may be.”


Joe Banner was strickly a cap guy with no football knowledge and his hire of Lombardi was just rediculous.  Both of these guys took credit for shit that others did.

Under Banner’s reign, Haslam’s organization secured a $107 million stadium naming rights deal; an innovative, new broadcast rights deal; partial public funding of a $30 million stadium renovation plan; and a lucrative, 10-year health-care deal that pushed aside 40-year partner Cleveland Clinic for rival University Hospitals. All of these improved the coffers of the Haslam family investment.

But there is no getting around the fact that Banner’s insistence on running the football side and his out-of-the-box hire of Lombardi as his primary sidekick brought about his own meteoric demise.

On the day Lombardi was introduced roughly 14 months ago, Banner conceded he was “going out on a limb” by hiring Lombardi, who had been out of the NFL for five years as an analyst for various media companies.

The Browns proceeded to have one of the worst drafts in their own sorry recent history. And although the moves by Banner and Lombardi set up the Browns with 10 draft picks and more than $35 million in salary cap room, the fact is the franchise suffered a 4-12 season – a game worse than the previous regime’s lame-duck year. Haslam and Banner pinned the reversal on the Chudzinski coaching staff. But, again, Haslam’s actions spoke louder than words.


Banner was a delusional dictator that didn't even know what he was doing.

Banner’s reputation as Eagles’ owner Jeff Lurie’s top aide was mixed. He was a tireless administrator and a ruthless negotiator who dreamt of dabbling in football operations more than critics felt he was qualified to do. In Cleveland, Banner appointed himself the No. 1 football authority. Haslam allowed it.


Lombardi was such a pussy and the city of Cleveland knew he was a fraud.  

Lombardi’s very presence in the organization was so “toxic” that he was sequestered from routine press conferences and made unavailable to media except for three appearances – his introduction, a Q and A session before the 2013 draft, and a one-day availability in training camp.

While i don't claim that the Browns will be a playoff team next year, i will say the organization is in much better hands now.  They now have a head coach that played in the NFL and a GM that has played in the NFL.  Not some pencil pushing geek that thinks he knows more than the rest of the world.  Good move by Haslam in my and many Cleveland fans' minds.



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2014,10:49
Catt's hero, Chris Kluwe < posted this today. > It's an article written by one guy who makes claims that a "1%" party was thrown, and somehow he got in and they were making jokes about gays and main street America, yada yada yada.

People started questioning the validity of the article. Kluwe responded with:
QUOTE
The ultra rich are getting vilified because they're proven sociopaths, and somehow considered valued members of society.


Fine. Let's say the article is 100% accurate, and not at all slanted by someone looking for evil in a room full of people who he has dedicated his life to believing ARE evil...

Immediately people, like myself, starting pointing out how you can't judge the many based on the few.

My response (just as an example):
QUOTE
Making assumptions about a group of people based on one person's account of a few of them. That's worked well in the past...


His response to all the criticism:
QUOTE
It baffles me how many people try to defend the indefensible in the hopes that one day they'll be the ones in that position.


And:

QUOTE
Lotteries everywhere rejoice at that mindset.


He then apparently got mad and logged off.

What a piece of shit. His belief that he is morally and intellectually superior despite his obvious bigot flag flying is disgusting. How about showing some humility, and admitting that perhaps you're incorrectly painting a large group of people with the same brush?

I support Kluwe on the gay rights issue, and enjoyed his openness towards the NFL. However, as his politics consume his life, and turn his good intentions into absolute hatred for anyone he perceives as a problem or who dare disagree with anything he says, I'm now ignoring him.

I find it sad that he's being such a bigot after fighting the good fight against bigotry.

Posted by Stranger on Feb. 18 2014,11:05
< http://www.polygon.com/2013....legends >

Yeah, but he's a huge League of Legends fan and was even at the World Championship a few months back.  So he's cool in my book.



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2014,11:08
So if Hitler was a LoL player...

Sorry, I can't follow that logic. Like I said, I dug him when he first made headlines, and his gaming was a part of that, but following him has been like watching a car crash in slow motion. It's just getting worse and worse.

Posted by Stranger on Feb. 18 2014,11:11
Whattaya mean, we played with Hitler many times.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2014,11:16
And we always hated him. Stop derailing the thread.
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 18 2014,11:19
really.. stop derailing the thread?!!!!! get over it
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2014,11:24
Get over what? What are you talking about?
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 18 2014,11:25
I'd say you derailed the thread first..  Chris Kluwe isn't even in the NFL anymore. What does this have to do with the NFL?
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2014,11:34
1. This is where he has been discussed in the past.
2. He's only famous because he was in the NFL.
3. If he wasn't a cancer, his career wouldn't be over.
4. He's currently suing an NFL team.

If Joe Namath died tomorrow, my first instinct would be to post a link to the article discussing his death here. Same logic behind Phillip Seymor Hoffman's death thread being under movies.

I mean, we post about the Browns here, and they have very little to do with pro football...

Posted by Stranger on Feb. 18 2014,11:39
dont tell me not to derail a thread..
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2014,11:40
Lighten up Francis.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2014,11:45
Catt's hero, Chris Kluwe posted this today. It's an article written by one guy who makes claims that a "1%" party was thrown, and somehow he got in and they were making jokes about gays and main street America, yada yada yada.

People started questioning the validity of the article. Kluwe responded with:
QUOTE
The ultra rich are getting vilified because they're proven sociopaths, and somehow considered valued members of society.


Fine. Let's say the article is 100% accurate, and not at all slanted by someone looking for evil in a room full of people who he has dedicated his life to believing ARE evil...

Immediately people, like myself, starting pointing out how you can't judge the many based on the few.

My response (just as an example):
QUOTE
Making assumptions about a group of people based on one person's account of a few of them. That's worked well in the past...


His response to all the criticism:
QUOTE
It baffles me how many people try to defend the indefensible in the hopes that one day they'll be the ones in that position.


And:

QUOTE
Lotteries everywhere rejoice at that mindset.


He then apparently got mad and logged off.

What a piece of shit. His belief that he is morally and intellectually superior despite his obvious bigot flag flying is disgusting. How about showing some humility, and admitting that perhaps you're incorrectly painting a large group of people with the same brush?

I support Kluwe on the gay rights issue, and enjoyed his openness towards the NFL. However, as his politics consume his life, and turn his good intentions into absolute hatred for anyone he perceives as a problem or who dare disagree with anything he says, I'm now ignoring him.

I find it sad that he's being such a bigot after fighting the good fight against bigotry.



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 18 2014,12:14
Maybe he was ticked off by people like Tom Perkins comparing < raising taxes to Kristallnacht. >

QUOTE
"Writing from the epicenter of progressive thought, San Francisco, I would call attention to the parallels of fascist Nazi Germany to its war on its 'one percent,' namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the 'rich,'" he wrote, opening a letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal.
"This is a very dangerous drift in our American thinking. Kristallnacht was unthinkable in 1930; is its descendent 'progressive' radicalism unthinkable now?" he concluded.


Or Perkins' idea that the < rich should be able to buy more politicians that they already do. >

I'm a big fan of Capitalism.  But, I can understand Kluwe's rage.  A lot of people think finance people broke America.  I think that statement way oversimplifies, and casts too much blame.  But they aren't exactly innocent.  And maybe some number of them aren't broken, but a large, significant number of them are, compared to average Americans.  They are disassociated from society.  They don't see poverty, they don't see working class people.  That lack of exposure directly correlates to a lack of sympathy, empathy, and understanding.  

I have little sympathy for people running most hedge fund and private equity firms.  Nothing in that article sounds different from friends of mine who work in that industry.  It sounds completely valid to me.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 18 2014,13:19
< These people > piss me off.  Not every hardcore capitalist is as insane as the dudes linked by catt, but even a little bit of crazy sounds evil with enough cash behind it.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2014,13:33
QUOTE
I'm a big fan of Capitalism.  But, I can understand Kluwe's rage.


I'm also a huge fan of Capitalism, and understand anger towards assholes abusing the system or who feel superior because of their economic status. (Check my FB status today...)

That being said, I can't support Kluwe's blinded bigotry and ignorance in saying all 1%ers are the primary evil on this planet, and the cause of everything bad.

I mean, look at this statement:
QUOTE
The ultra rich are getting vilified because they're proven sociopaths, and somehow considered valued members of society.


Replace "ultra rich" with any group of people (whites, blacks, men, women, Catholics, gays, illegals, LoL players, etc.) and any person, in any context would be called an ignorant bigot for saying it. So why does he get a pass?

In the minds of people like Kluwe 1% has replaced "Bush/Haliburton/Global Warming".

And FYI, let's look at Perkins. He made a dumb comparison to Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany comparisons are nothing new. Many folks on the left, including politicians, tried comparing Bush Jr. to Hitler when he was in office. Ditto for right leaning folks do now to Obama. Hell, as Stranger pointed out, me, him, Cake, and Gordo compared players to Hitler nightly in League of Legends. (Granted that last one was in jest, but I think the point remains.)

And while I disagree that rich people should get more votes because they pay more in taxes, I understand why he's making the statement. I can understand the logic used to craft the concept, but I disagree with it.

I do find his idea that only taxpayers should be able to vote interesting. Very Heinlein-like. (Different subject for a different time and thread.)

What bugs me the most about Kluwe flying the bigot flag high and proudly today is that he threw all of his own credibility away. He's now just a whack job, and I honestly thought much better of him. I didn't agree with all of his issues, but he never displayed any crazy until lately.

I've got some FB friends who do similar things. They make a great point about something political or whatever, and then they color it with something bigoted or ridiculous. To me, it amounts to name calling and screaming matches. I think when you get there, you should be removed from the discussion.

They, like him today, are disappointing.

Posted by Vince on Feb. 18 2014,16:04
QUOTE
And FYI, let's look at Perkins. He made a dumb comparison to Nazi Germany.

Listening to what many in the Occupy movement were saying about Jews along with the 1%... I'm not so sure that his comparison was that dumb.

Invoking Godwin's Law has become a crutch in my mind.  "I don't have to justify my authoritarian views because you mentioned Hilter and Nazis!"

And the Anti Defamation League... Jeez... They said, "Never forget" so that it would happen ever again.  To anyone.  ADL's having a meltdown whenever some DOES draw a comparison to the Holocaust only ensures that at some point (sooner rather than later) it WILL happen again.  The whole point of making the comparison is to remind people where that kind of thinking leads.

All that being said, Perkins might have done better comparing to to the French Revolution where they were decapitating children because they came from affluent families.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 18 2014,16:24
Yeah, I'm not going to defend Kluwe's rant... I do think the 1% are doing quite fine in this day and age, and have.. oh, just about nothing to complain about.  The whole "Carried interest" bullshit for private equity/hedge fund needs to be fixed.  And yes, that means I support higher taxes on them.  They make millions or billions, but pay lower tax rates on earned income than I do.

I don't want to see France/Scandanavian-like 70-75% tax rates, but I do think their taxes should be higher than they presently are.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 18 2014,16:45
QUOTE
Invoking Godwin's Law has become a crutch in my mind.

A) Godwin's Law is around for a reason.  < This >.

B) The main problem is that the extent of most people's knowledge of Nazis reduces to three items: (i) Holocaust, (ii) WWII, and (ii) their evil because of the first couple items.  They instantly associate "Nazi" with "wrong" and that leads to < this >.  People forget that not every single item on their agenda can be taken as unequivocally wrong/evil in a vacuum.  If you try to interpret it that way, shit becomes psychotic very quickly and easily.  Back in the '20s and '30s, they were somewhat fucking popular (even in the US), and it wasn't because they went around acting like goddamn Saturday morning cartoon villains.  Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford, American icons, both loved them some Hitler.
QUOTE
For Lindbergh's 1927 flight and services to aviation, on behalf of Adolf Hitler, Göring presented him with the Commander Cross of the Order of the German Eagle. (Henry Ford received the same award earlier in July.)

You think they were the only two in the country?

C) There's not a lot of people alive today that saw Nazism in its full-blown wtf-ness, so we're going off hindsight mostly.  I've seen a bajillion documentaries, specials, and read loads of books and articles on the subject, and I've met death/concentration camp survivors.  Second-hand knowledge is scarcely sufficient to understand what went on, let alone how or why things were allowed to get that fucked up in the twentieth motherfucking century.  Will there be another major power regime that's as oppressive and xenophobic?  Oh shit, yeah.  No doubt.  Especially if you give the past ones such a shallow treatment that they're turned them into forensic weapons of five-year olds that make one think such apogees of assholiness that can never again be reached.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 18 2014,16:46
QUOTE
I don't want to see France/Scandanavian-like 70-75% tax rates, but I do think their taxes should be higher than they presently are.

I want them encouraged to live in my country.  I don't want to France them away to Russia.

Posted by Vince on Feb. 18 2014,17:09

(Malcolm @ Feb. 18 2014,18:45)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Invoking Godwin's Law has become a crutch in my mind.

A) Godwin's Law is around for a reason.  < This >.

So would you invoke Godwin's Law when some says in arguing against gun confiscation that this was what allowed the Nazi party to take total control over the population with no resistance?
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 18 2014,17:52
Godwin's Law states that as a (UseNet) discussion goes on, the probability of someone mentioning the Nazis approaches 1.  When someone brings up the Nazis, Godwin's Law has been confirmed.  Whether or not it's a valid analogy is not something Godwin talks about.
Posted by GORDON on Feb. 18 2014,17:58
The problem is that many people who secretly think the nazis had some pretty good ideas use godwin's law as an instant "win" button.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 20 2014,11:36
< Kickstarter for Cleveland Brown sports coloring book >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 20 2014,11:57

(TheCatt @ Feb. 20 2014,14:36)
QUOTE
< Kickstarter for Cleveland Brown sports coloring book >

Brilliant.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 21 2014,10:15
< Ray Rice >.  "You just got knocked the fuck out!"
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 21 2014,10:40

(TheCatt @ Feb. 20 2014,14:36)
QUOTE
< Kickstarter for Cleveland Brown sports coloring book >

I love it because it written by a Cleveland fan for the Cleveland fans.  Not by some fuckstain Steeler fan making fun of us.

Its just another way to relive our pathetic almost unbelievable storied sports history.  Only this time generations to come will see what all of us have had to endure.

I've always said that you couldn't write a better book than the story of a Cleveland fan, but to do it in a children's coloring book is GENIUS!!  

The only problem is... This children's book has no happy ending.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 21 2014,10:48

(Stranger @ Feb. 21 2014,13:40)
QUOTE
I've always said that you couldn't write a better book than the story of a Cleveland fan, but to do it in a children's coloring book is GENIUS!!  

Well, he has to make sure other Cleveland fans can read it.
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 21 2014,10:54
Ouch!
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 21 2014,11:10
Crayola would have to release a new colour called "disappointment."
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 21 2014,11:20
ok... now ya'll just piling on.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 21 2014,11:23

(Stranger @ Feb. 21 2014,13:20)
QUOTE
ok... now ya'll just piling on.

You have no idea how much I want to see Manziel go to Cleveland so I can watch him crash and burn.
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 21 2014,11:30
Don't worry, i'm sure he will.  Hopefully him measuring a shade under 6 feet hurts him enough that the Browns don't touch him.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 21 2014,23:46
< Browns wanted Harbaugh? >

Gotta say, I approve of the move. They didn't pull it off, but it's ballsy.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 24 2014,10:25
< God now an agent for NFL players >.
QUOTE
Running backs competed in afternoon drills at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, but Adam Muema missed the training session, claiming the Lord told him he'd play for the Seattle Seahawks if he took it easy.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 03 2014,10:50
< Harbaugh's act "wearing thin" >

I'm sure all that winning suck too.  Send him to Washington, give us a chance to get sick of back-to-back NFC championship games.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2014,11:05

(TheCatt @ Mar. 03 2014,12:50)
QUOTE
< Harbaugh's act "wearing thin" >

I'm sure all that winning suck too.  Send him to Washington, give us a chance to get sick of back-to-back NFC championship games.

Do they remember the huge drought they had between Steve Young and just recently?
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2014,11:08
At this point, if I'm Harbaugh, I don't renegotiate. Let him hit the open market, and he can demand basically anything he wants. Meanwhile, let's see what the 49ers do with the candidates that will be available.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 06 2014,11:17
< AP proves > he should stick to RB duties and stfu about QBs.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 06 2014,11:19

(Malcolm @ Mar. 06 2014,14:17)
QUOTE
< AP proves > he should stick to RB duties and stfu about QBs.

Compared to Cassel....
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 06 2014,11:22
And, oh wait, 3 straight conference championship games after more than decade absence.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 06 2014,11:24

(TheCatt @ Mar. 06 2014,14:19)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 06 2014,14:17)
QUOTE
< AP proves > he should stick to RB duties and stfu about QBs.

Compared to Cassel....

Fair point.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 06 2014,12:28

(TheCatt @ Mar. 06 2014,13:22)
QUOTE
And, oh wait, 3 straight conference championship games after more than decade absence.

And a demonstrable inability to stay healthy.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 06 2014,15:28

(Malcolm @ Mar. 06 2014,15:28)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Mar. 06 2014,13:22)
QUOTE
And, oh wait, 3 straight conference championship games after more than decade absence.

And a demonstrable inability to stay healthy.

I think we're talking about different people.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 06 2014,19:19

(TheCatt @ Mar. 06 2014,17:28)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 06 2014,15:28)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Mar. 06 2014,13:22)
QUOTE
And, oh wait, 3 straight conference championship games after more than decade absence.

And a demonstrable inability to stay healthy.

I think we're talking about different people.

Who're you talking about?
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 06 2014,19:21
Harbaugh.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 06 2014,19:44

(TheCatt @ Mar. 06 2014,21:21)
QUOTE
Harbaugh.

Ah, alright.  I see the, uh, sub-threads going on now I guess.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2014,07:24
Cassell signed for 2 more years.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 12 2014,07:30

(Malcolm @ Mar. 12 2014,10:24)
QUOTE
Cassell signed for 2 more years.

I'm so glad we play you again this year.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2014,07:58

(TheCatt @ Mar. 12 2014,09:30)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 12 2014,10:24)
QUOTE
Cassell signed for 2 more years.

I'm so glad we play you again this year.

That just means he'll be backing whoever they pick up.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 13 2014,10:20
Today in the NFL...

< Darry Sproles goes to Philly >.

< Revis Island > relocates to NE.

< Country singer and husband picked up by Jets >.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 13 2014,12:42
Glad she's rich because he just made a really bad career move.
Posted by Troy on Mar. 13 2014,12:48
I'm gonna miss you Steve :(
Posted by Vince on Mar. 13 2014,13:20

(Leisher @ Mar. 13 2014,14:42)
QUOTE
Glad she's rich because he just made a really bad career move.

She's pretty hot.  I don't think his concerns about where he's playing has anything to do with football.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 13 2014,19:01

(Troy @ Mar. 13 2014,14:48)
QUOTE
I'm gonna miss you Steve :(

I kind of hope the Vikes take a flyer on him.
Posted by Troy on Mar. 13 2014,20:11

(Malcolm @ Mar. 13 2014,19:01)
QUOTE

(Troy @ Mar. 13 2014,14:48)
QUOTE
I'm gonna miss you Steve :(

I kind of hope the Vikes take a flyer on him.

You took diminutive (but solid) nickel back Captain Munneryln later in the day, too!

Looks like Baltimore wants Steve pretty bad...



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 16 2014,12:09
< Emmanuel Sanders > to the Ponies.  Looks like they're gearing up for another playoff run since Manning's cleared to play.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 17 2014,13:54
< One finger = sixteen million dollars >.  WTF?
QUOTE
American football bosses are demanding over $16 million (GBP10 million) from M.I.A. for her naughty middle finger salute during Madonna's half-time performance at the 2012 Super Bowl. National Football League officials are claiming the hip-hop star breached her performance contract and tarnished the NFL's reputation, and now they want her to pay up.

Tarnished the NFL's reputation?

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2014,09:14
< James Jones > ends his career.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 18 2014,09:26
I did what now?
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2014,09:33

(TPRJones @ Mar. 18 2014,11:26)
QUOTE
I did what now?

You signed with the Raiders.  I imagine lots of people don't find out until it's too late.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 18 2014,09:44

(TPRJones @ Mar. 18 2014,12:26)
QUOTE
I did what now?

You must be completely ungoogleable.
Posted by Troy on Mar. 18 2014,10:09
Poor TPR. Oakland is where promising individuals go to die. (with lots of Al Davis' money)


Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 18 2014,10:14

(TheCatt @ Mar. 18 2014,11:44)
QUOTE
You must be completely ungoogleable.

I am legion.  Security through obscurity is my life.

The down side is last time I looked I had stuff from five other mes I've never heard of on my credit report.  The credit agencies like to put anything from anyone nearby with a similar name together.  I've long since given up trying to fight that mess.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 21 2014,10:34
< Old Man Schaub > to make James Jones's acquaintance.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 21 2014,20:24
I'll keep an eye out for him.


Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 24 2014,10:38
< Mark Cuban > is back to saying insane things.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2014,11:37
I get his argument, and could easily say it applies to other businesses, and even governments...

However, I don't think people are going to be turning off the NFL because their love of football isn't going to diminish. Hell MLB is doing fine despite a ridiculously long schedule, a massive and on going cheating scandal, a system that allows spenders to win, and the most boring sport of the big four.

Do we really think football can suffer from overexposure?

And how hypocritical is it for him to be making these statements? His league has games on nightly from October/November until June, and they're on TNT, ESPN, ABC, and I believe TBS? They also play a ridiculously long season (82 games). Plus, their stars are more marketable because they don't wear face masks.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 26 2014,10:12
< Changes to NFL rules >.

< The Jimmy Graham rule >.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 28 2014,10:25
In today's NFL news...

< DeSean gone >.

< MJD in the OAK >?

< Harry Reid warns > Redskins fans that he will be shoving a large political stick up their collective ass in the next few years.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 28 2014,10:57
The Steelers didn't want to pay MJD the $3 million a year he sought. I don't think the other three teams interested did either. Of course, there's always the Raiders. Nice to see they're the same even without Davis.

Oh, and Harry Reid is an asshole. The country is swirling the drain, and he thinks that's a priority?

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 28 2014,11:00
Hey, DeSean, how do you feel about Washington?

*UGH* I'm Daniel Snyder.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 28 2014,11:12
QUOTE
Because Native Americans are organized. We have Native Americans who now are not all poor. We’ve got these Indian gaming establishments who have money, who are gonna help with this.

Were I a Native American, I think I'd find these statements a bit offensive because they're implying the economic options for my people consist of: (i) poor or (ii) rich with a casino.



Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 30 2014,08:40

(TheCatt @ Mar. 28 2014,14:00)
QUOTE
Hey, DeSean, how do you feel about Washington?

*UGH* I'm Daniel Snyder.

< Comes to visit. >

I reserve my rights to both a) criticize this if he joins the Skins and it goes poorly, and b) Criticize the Skins for not signing him if he goes elsewhere.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 30 2014,11:14
QUOTE
Washington is among several teams, including the Oakland Raiders, New York Jets, Buffalo Bills and Seattle Seahawks, reportedly interested in the 27-year-old Jackson, who was released on Friday.

Raiders: Dizzam, they're signing just about everyone.
Jets, Bills: Don't even possess average QBs.
Seahawks: I imagine they'll have cash leftover after they release/trade more as training camp approaches.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 31 2014,13:38
< Minnesota's season is looking up >.


Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 01 2014,11:52
< Graham to the Raiders >

QUOTE
BREAKING NEWS: JIMMY GRAHAM TRADED TO RAIDERS FOR 3 DRAFT PICKS
Posted by Andrew Juge on Apr 1, 2014 00:01


The Saints offseason took an unexpected turn as the team has decided to ship Jimmy Graham off to Oakland for the Raiders’ 1st, 3rd and 7th round picks in 2014. Wow. Word is the Saints will now make Eric Ebron, tight end out of North Carolina, a drafting priority come May. Graham continued to insist on “Megatron” type money and the Raiders have rewarded him with a 6 year contract for $92.5 million with $40 million guaranteed. That’s an astronomical figure that the Saints were never going to come close to paying. The contract makes Graham the highest paid tight end in history by almost $5 million per year. That is an astronomical contract for Graham and the Raiders also gave up the 5th overall pick to get him. It remains to be seen who the Saints will get with that 5th pick but there are lots of difference making options.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2014,12:08
Soon as I saw that headline, I thought, "Bullshit."
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2014,21:29

(TheCatt @ Mar. 30 2014,10:40)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Mar. 28 2014,14:00)
QUOTE
Hey, DeSean, how do you feel about Washington?

*UGH* I'm Daniel Snyder.

< Comes to visit. >

I reserve my rights to both a) criticize this if he joins the Skins and it goes poorly, and b) Criticize the Skins for not signing him if he goes elsewhere.

3 year deal.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 02 2014,04:59
Well, option B is off the table.  Here's hoping it works out.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 02 2014,08:30
QUOTE
DeSean Jackson can earn $24 million on the three-year deal he signed Tuesday night with the Washington Redskins, a contract that will pay the former Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver $16 million guaranteed.

That doesn't seem unreasonable considering his age and talent.  Kinda high on the guaranteed, but inline with what Eric Decker got overall.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 02 2014,09:44

(TheCatt @ Apr. 02 2014,10:30)
QUOTE
QUOTE
DeSean Jackson can earn $24 million on the three-year deal he signed Tuesday night with the Washington Redskins, a contract that will pay the former Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver $16 million guaranteed.

That doesn't seem unreasonable considering his age and talent.  Kinda high on the guaranteed, but inline with what Eric Decker got overall.

Decker's good, but not good enough to be a stand out dude on his own.  Someone with above average talent has to throw him the ball with good accuracy.  DeSean's better than Decker.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 02 2014,10:04
Right, but he was the best WR available in free agency, so that was my yardstick.  I think the Skins didn't do anything dumb, yet.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 02 2014,12:02
The Steelers just signed Darius Heyward-Bay. He'll stretch the field for us.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 02 2014,12:42

(Leisher @ Apr. 02 2014,14:02)
QUOTE
The Steelers just signed Darius Heyward-Bay. He'll stretch the field for us.

That's what the Raiders thought.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 04 2014,06:17
< Redskins get a QB to throw to their new WR. >
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2014,06:34

(Malcolm @ Apr. 02 2014,15:42)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Apr. 02 2014,14:02)
QUOTE
The Steelers just signed Darius Heyward-Bay. He'll stretch the field for us.

That's what the Raiders thought.

Yeah, but they're the Raiders.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 04 2014,07:49
I'd take Denarius Moore or Rod Streater over DHB.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2014,09:29
Bay had a decent year when he had an actual QB throwing to him last year.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 04 2014,09:59

(Leisher @ Apr. 04 2014,11:29)
QUOTE
Bay had a decent year when he had an actual QB throwing to him last year.

QUOTE
Heyward-Bey finished the season with 29 receptions for 309 yards and a touchdown.

Over 16 games.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2014,11:12
What's wrong with that? He wasn't a starter. He'll get a chance in Pitt. In case you haven't noticed, we're pretty good at getting the most out of a receiver. We tend to also cut them loose at just the right time.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 04 2014,11:28

(Leisher @ Apr. 04 2014,13:12)
QUOTE
What's wrong with that? He wasn't a starter. He'll get a chance in Pitt. In case you haven't noticed, we're pretty good at getting the most out of a receiver. We tend to also cut them loose at just the right time.

I can't see him even getting to be more than a #3 WR on a reliable basis.  Maybe #2 on his good days.  He's not even a good decoy.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2014,12:20
We'll see.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 07 2014,09:20
< Weeden can't face > his own mediocrity.
QUOTE
The 2012 first-round draft pick told SiriusXM NFL Radio on Saturday that he believes the constant change in Cleveland was one factor that stymied his growth as a player.

The constant change was physically slowing down your arms and legs?  It was blocking your vision and making your throw picks to the other team?  Maybe you should try a less dynamic game, like checkers.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 16 2014,10:38
< Heh >.  Giants must've been impressed after playing against Josh that one MNF game last season.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 17 2014,10:17
< Chris Johnson > and the Jets.  He'll fit into their mix of mediocre and below average players quite well.


Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 22 2014,10:28
Fun fact: Russell Wilson < earns less > than T-Jack or T-Pry.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 22 2014,10:51
QUOTE
He's a superstar who has endorsement deals with Nike, EA Sports and Levi’s, to name a few.

I'm sure he's doing just fine.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 24 2014,07:56
< The schedule is out. >
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 24 2014,08:30

(Leisher @ Apr. 24 2014,09:56)
QUOTE
< The schedule is out. >

Looks like the Vikes are starting 0-6.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 24 2014,10:16
That's a lot of faith to place in St. Louis.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 24 2014,11:08

(TheCatt @ Apr. 24 2014,12:16)
QUOTE
That's a lot of faith to place in St. Louis.

St. Louis looked almost legit last year with Kellen Clemens at the helm.  They aren't going to be beating the 49ers anytime soon as the div leaders, but they aren't a joke like they were a couple years ago.

EDIT: That's far more than I can say for the Vikings.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 24 2014,11:22
< Herschell Walker >:
QUOTE
“I can play in the NFL today,” Walker said. “I couldn’t take every snap. But running backs nowadays don’t play every down. Now they send in the choir section. Physically, I can still do it.”

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 24 2014,11:41
I saw him on Celebrity Apprentice a few years ago.  Dude was in amazingly good shape.  I'm not saying he could cut it in the NFL, but damn he looked good for being almost 50 at the time.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 28 2014,17:13
< Browns try out Vince Young >
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 28 2014,17:51
They're scrambling for a Plan B in case Hoyer's not the same, but damn.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 28 2014,20:57
I'm starting to think the Browns are going to take Sammy Watkins.
Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2014,10:20
< Richard Sherman > indirectly calls the NFL greedy and a bit racist.
QUOTE
Because we have an NFL team called the Redskins, I don't think the NFL really is as concerned as they show. The NFL is more of a bottom-line league. If it doesn't affect their bottom line, they're not as concerned.

Posted by Troy on May 08 2014,11:49
Surely the man with the giant fucking contract can't be complaining too hard.
Posted by TheCatt on May 08 2014,12:54
I'm glad the draft is tonight, cuz I'M FUCKING SICK OF HEARING ABOUT IT.
Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2014,13:06

(TheCatt @ May 08 2014,14:54)
QUOTE
I'm glad the draft is tonight, cuz I'M FUCKING SICK OF HEARING ABOUT IT.

We'll see who rolls the dice and loses on Johnny Football Asshole.
Posted by Leisher on May 08 2014,18:08
Manziel has to be STEAMING!!! Ha! Fuck him.
Posted by TheCatt on May 08 2014,19:04
Manziel on the board... Jets up to pick :)
Posted by Leisher on May 08 2014,19:40
Ha! I said the same thing.

And as I type this, here come the Browns...Let's see why they traded up.

If history is any guide they traded for him, ala Brady Quinn.

Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2014,20:37

(Leisher @ May 08 2014,21:40)
QUOTE
And as I type this, here come the Browns

And his picture on NFL.com right now is of a shit-eating grin.  Heh.  His new name will be Johnny Mediocrity.
Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,03:34
Oh, Browns... Browns, Browns, Browns...
Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,04:43
FUCK YEAH!! don't hate bitches!

We just got the number one CB in the draft, a great value on a QB at 22 (even if he is a bust) all while picking up the Bills #1 next year.  Thats a top ten 10.  I'd say Cleveland won the first round of the draft.  

Hate Johnny or not, none of us know what he is gonna become in the NFL.  He's worth a shot to a franchise that is in DESPERATE need of a leader.

Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,04:58
I look at it this way...

We traded bust ass Trent Richardson and a third rounder that the Steelers gave us last year for a potential franchise QB.

TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!!

At least we didn't use our 4th pick on him, like the Jags taking Bortles at 3.  They coulda gotten him way later i believe.

Its a swing for the fences. He's boom or bust, if he busts no real big loss, we've had plenty of busts, but if he booms...

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,05:01
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Now the Browns get their potential star quarterback, albeit at the slightly jinxed 22nd pick, which is where Cleveland previously selected Brady Quinn and Brandon Weeden

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,05:07
The Browns have now used (squandered?) 4 first round picks on QBs, the most of any team in the past 20 years.  And Cleveland has only been around for 15 of those years.
Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,05:19
Can't rain on my parade today buddy.
Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,05:45

(Stranger @ May 09 2014,08:19)
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Can't rain on my parade today buddy.

Apparently I can only try.

Well, I do admire your optimism.  I think.

Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,05:49
The draft is our Super Bowl.  This is the time of year we feel the best about our team. Usually by time the first quarter ends of the first game that excitement it gone.

So yeah, i'm gonna enjoy this for a little while.

Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2014,07:18
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a great value on a QB at 22 (even if he is a bust)

How is a bust a great value?  And yes, he will be a bust.  Stick with Hoyer.

RG3 got criticized for his press conference talks after some tough losses.  He had the 'Skins.  Johnny Mediocrity has the Browns, and RG3 has Mother Teresa's rep compared to JM.

EDIT: On the other hand, I can't think of a team and player that deserve each other more.



Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,07:25
You do know that your Vikings were the other team on the line that was competing for Johnny.

Looks like Johnny was thier first choice, but will have to settle for Teddy Bridgewater.  You can have him, never was impressed with him.

Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2014,07:58

(Stranger @ May 09 2014,09:25)
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You do know that your Vikings were the other team on the line that was competing for Johnny.

Looks like Johnny was thier first choice, but will have to settle for Teddy Bridgewater.  You can have him, never was impressed with him.

Thanks for taking the white elephant before the dumb-asses at my front office had the chance to skull-fuck their team's chances.

I'd take Sage over JM for my QB.

Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,08:09

(Malcolm @ May 09 2014,10:58)
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I'd take Sage over JM for my QB.

...And you would be the only man in America that would think that.. Thats just a rediculous statement.

Besides, Ray Farmer is getting kudos nationally for his great work in the draft.  Cleveland fleeced Buffalo for a first round pick.  and to potentially get your franchise QB late in the first for basically Trent Richardson.  Its a risk worth taking.

And i know you like to talk like you already know how bad Johnny is gonna be, because somehow you know.  Thanks for the intelligent insight.

Posted by Leisher on May 09 2014,08:10
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I'd say Cleveland won the first round of the draft.


Honestly, I agree with that.

They got the #1 CB, the Bills' #1 pick from next year, and got Manziel late enough that it won't matter if he's a bust.

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like the Jags taking Bortles at 3.  They coulda gotten him way later i believe.


I like the Jags grabbing Bortles, but yeah, they could have traded down. I think they were worried Cleveland would take him or something? Got to give them credit for addressing something they desperately needed. I think it helped Bortles that he was a hometown guy, will sell more tickets, and this should effectively shut the people up who want Tebow.

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You do know that your Vikings were the other team on the line that was competing for Johnny.

Looks like Johnny was thier first choice, but will have to settle for Teddy Bridgewater.


If that's true, it was going to be at the < objection of their new head coach >.

I'm happy for my Cleveland fan friends and family, but no matter where Manziel went I was going to root against him.

He's undersized, likes to run first, has trouble seeing open receivers from the pocket, and he's a chucker.  

That being said, he does have talent. He's also such an arrogant dick, that he might have developed a huge chip on his shoulder last night, ala Aaron Rodgers. Plus, Drew Brees does ok as an undersized passer.

I honestly don't know what to expect from him. I do know that I'll be rooting for Ryan Shazier to break his legs. And yes, I love that pick. How could I not?  :D

Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,08:23

(Leisher @ May 09 2014,11:10)
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If that's true, it was going to be at the < objection of their new head coach >.

That article was from over a month ago when every team was smokescreening.  

This was from the ESPN websight:
Fox's Jay Glazer reported on Twitter that the Minnesota Vikings were trying to trade up for Manziel and thought they had a deal with the Eagles

And just as recently as wednesday, and Leisher you can attest to this.  I was skeptical about Johhny, i have the same questions about him too.  But i won't make some bold statement that he's gonna blow just because he's an arrogant little shit.  He's got a huge mountain to climb in this city, and i just hope he's got enough in him to overcome.  All the past QB's never had the balls to grab the bull by the horns, and i think thats what Cleveland loves about him so much.  He don't give a shit about our past and he's gonna go balls out.

As far as the Steelers... FUCK! they always take our Buckeyes.. Good pick by them once again.

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,08:29

(Stranger @ May 09 2014,11:09)
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Besides, Ray Farmer is getting kudos nationally for his great work in the draft.  Cleveland fleeced Buffalo for a first round pick.

Truth.
Posted by Leisher on May 09 2014,08:37
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Fox's Jay Glazer reported on Twitter that the Minnesota Vikings were trying to trade up for Manziel and thought they had a deal with the Eagles


Cleveland failed a trade last night too. I think it was at #11. I wonder who they were trying to grab?

Also, the best Cleveland moment for me last night was that Cleveland reporter telling the story of their owner, Jimmy Haslam, and what made up his mind about Manziel. See, he was leaving a restaurant when a homeless guy came up to him and told him "Draft Manziel". He said right then and there he knew Cleveland needed to get Manziel.

You can't make this shit up.

The funniest part is that they still draft better than Detroit.

Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,08:44
Yes, they did fail that trade.  but Cleveland bailed on it.  The thought is that they wanted Johnny before Dallas picked because everyone thought they were going to take him.

Tennessee was the only team willing to trade but were asking too much.  So give Farmer credit again, he didn't panic and overpay for Johnny and he was willing to let Dallas make the move.  But when they passed then the next team to be know to have interest in Johnny was KC at 23.  So he played his cards well and got a great value on Johnny.

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,08:57

(Stranger @ May 09 2014,11:44)
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Yes, they did fail that trade.  but Cleveland bailed on it.  The thought is that they wanted Johnny before Dallas picked because everyone thought they were going to take him.

THERE's a team that deserves Johnny.

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So he played his cards well and got a great value on Johnny.

That statement cannot be made until years from now.

Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2014,09:20
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Also, the best Cleveland moment for me last night was that Cleveland reporter telling the story of their owner, Jimmy Haslam, and what made up his mind about Manziel. See, he was leaving a restaurant when a homeless guy came up to him and told him "Draft Manziel". He said right then and there he knew Cleveland needed to get Manziel.

Anyone want to get in on a great practical joke for next year's draft?  Just need to find out what restaurants that dude goes to.

Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,09:54

(Malcolm @ May 09 2014,12:20)
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Anyone want to get in on a great practical joke for next year's draft?  Just need to find out what restaurants that dude goes to.

Sure! with 2 number 1's next year we can tell him to get Jameis Winston!
Posted by Leisher on May 09 2014,10:03
By the way, I was also thrilled that Roby went in the first round, and that it wasn't to the Steelers.

From here on out there's only two players I'd love the Steelers to grab: Nix (don't be shocked if they trade up for him) and Hyde (they have no need for him, but he's a Buckeye and he's awesome).

Other than that I expect them to grab some 6'3-6" receiver nobody has heard of, and one or two CB prospects.

Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,10:14
There are still 4 first round talents on the board at WR yet.  Marquise Lee, Jordan Matthews, Allen Robinson and Cody Latimer.  Lee is prolly the highest rated but the only one under 6 foot, all the rest are big guys.  

Browns have the third pick in the second round today, i'd be happy with any one of those guys.  Carlos Hyde is also an option for them there too.

I just hope the Steelers don't get any of these guys.

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,10:17

(Stranger @ May 09 2014,12:54)
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(Malcolm @ May 09 2014,12:20)
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Anyone want to get in on a great practical joke for next year's draft?  Just need to find out what restaurants that dude goes to.

Sure! with 2 number 1's next year we can tell him to get Jameis Winston!

Hey, no fair drafting a QB who could actually be good.
Posted by Leisher on May 09 2014,10:18

(TheCatt @ May 09 2014,13:17)
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(Stranger @ May 09 2014,12:54)
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(Malcolm @ May 09 2014,12:20)
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Anyone want to get in on a great practical joke for next year's draft?  Just need to find out what restaurants that dude goes to.

Sure! with 2 number 1's next year we can tell him to get Jameis Winston!

Hey, no fair drafting a QB who could actually be good.

Right? I hope Hoyer and Manziel are just good enough this year that Cleveland skips on Winston next year.
Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,10:39
My dream scenario is Buffalo gets bought by Bon Jovi right before the season starts and tells the world he's moving the franchise to Toronto Canada.  The team and fans revolt and they fall into a downward spiral much like Cleveland did in '95.

Buffalo ends up with a woeful 3-13 record and the first pick in the draft..  Behold! it now belongs to Cleveland! Since Johnny had such a great rookie season and solidifies himself as the undisputed starter, they get a kings ransom for the #1 pick and the rights to Jameis Winston.  Cleveland would recieve a deal similar to what St. Louis got for RG3 and have multiple 1st rounders for years to come.

Cleveland settles in as the powerhouse of the AFC north routiney beating the shit out of the Steelers and Ravens all while Johnny is flashing money signs up and down the field.  

And then we lived happily ever after...

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,10:42

(Stranger @ May 09 2014,13:39)
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My dream scenario is Buffalo gets bought by Bon Jovi right before the season starts and tells the world he's moving the franchise to Toronto Canada.  The team and fans revolt and they fall into a downward spiral much like Cleveland did in '95.

Buffalo ends up with a woeful 3-13 record and the first pick in the draft..  Behold! it now belongs to Cleveland! Since Johnny had such a great rookie season and solidifies himself as the undisputed starter, they get a kings ransom for the #1 pick and the rights to Jameis Winston.  Cleveland would recieve a deal similar to what St. Louis got for RG3 and have multiple 1st rounders for years to come.

Cleveland settles in as the powerhouse of the AFC north routiney beating the shit out of the Steelers and Ravens all while Johnny is flashing money signs up and down the field.  

And then we lived happily ever after...

Can you bottle that optimism and sell it?  Cuz... DAMN
Posted by Stranger on May 09 2014,10:44
LOL! like i said.. Our hopes are always the highest this time of year.
Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2014,10:53

(Stranger @ May 09 2014,12:44)
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LOL! like i said.. Our hopes are always the highest this time of year.

I'm pretty sure drug use in Cleveland ramps up in anticipation of the NFL season.
Posted by Troy on May 09 2014,10:53
Cam has issues throwing too high to receivers sometimes. So we drafted the tallest motherfucking receiver we could find in Kelvin Benjamin. Definetly a boom or bust type player. Unlike past receivers we drafted though, we vetted the shit out of this guy, the coaching staff spent DAYS at his pro day, combine, in Charlotte, etc. checking him out.

Then our GM dismissed him publicly as not being polished enough for us (something something route tree).

But then just like last year, we sprinted to the podium in 30 seconds and got our pick in for Kelvin. Hope it turns out just like it did with Star, too.

Almost as good of a smokescreen as the Jags pulled off. Almost.



Posted by Leisher on May 09 2014,10:55
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Can you bottle that optimism and sell it?  Cuz... DAMN


It's honestly amazing to witness.

This clown came up to me on Wednesday talking shit about week 1!! They've lost 19 of the last 21 games against the Steelers, and he's talking shit!

They sell some really strong Kool-Aid in Cleveland.



Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2014,11:27
I'm waiting until someone makes the Freudian slip and calls him "Johnny Modell."
Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,11:57
I can only imagine Stranger in Auschwitz.

QUOTE
Yeah, they killed half the people so far, but I hear they did it quickly without a lot of pain.  And next year?  I bet we won't even KNOW we're dying when they do it!  Although, I hear some people got selected for medical testing by Dr. Mengele, MAN - Free health care!

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,12:24
I was glad that Eric Ebron was drafted high, good luck to him.  He was an absolute BEAST for UNC the past couple of years.  Just phenomenal.  Will be interesting to see how he does.
Posted by Leisher on May 09 2014,15:55
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I was glad that Eric Ebron was drafted high, good luck to him.  He was an absolute BEAST for UNC the past couple of years.  Just phenomenal.  Will be interesting to see how he does.


I have no clue why Detroit drafted him as they have zero need at that position, and he's not a blocker. I did hear that he was very high on the Steelers' list.

< The other shoe drops for Cleveland. >

Apparently they knew last night, and still passed on Sammy. Wow. I would have at least tried to get Stevie Johnson, who Buffalo just traded.



Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2014,16:12
WOOHOO!  My major competitor in fantasy football has Gordon.
Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,16:52
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The Browns' hierachy made its Day 1 draft decisions with owner Jimmy Haslam and general manager Ray Farmer having full knowledge of Gordon's pending status of the positive test, sources told ESPN Senior NFL Analyst Chris Mortensen. The team has been targeting one or two receivers in the remaining rounds of the draft.

The Browns' coaching staff, meanwhile, was unaware of the situation until ESPN.com issued its report, sources said

Oh, Browns.  You're so... Browns.

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2014,16:56

(Leisher @ May 09 2014,18:55)
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QUOTE
I was glad that Eric Ebron was drafted high, good luck to him.  He was an absolute BEAST for UNC the past couple of years.  Just phenomenal.  Will be interesting to see how he does.


I have no clue why Detroit drafted him as they have zero need at that position, and he's not a blocker. I did hear that he was very high on the Steelers' list.

He's another passing threat, and he is awesome.  As long as Stafford has time to get the ball out of his hands, he has a lot of targets this year.
Posted by Leisher on May 09 2014,17:37

(TheCatt @ May 09 2014,19:56)
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(Leisher @ May 09 2014,18:55)
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I was glad that Eric Ebron was drafted high, good luck to him.  He was an absolute BEAST for UNC the past couple of years.  Just phenomenal.  Will be interesting to see how he does.


I have no clue why Detroit drafted him as they have zero need at that position, and he's not a blocker. I did hear that he was very high on the Steelers' list.

He's another passing threat, and he is awesome.  As long as Stafford has time to get the ball out of his hands, he has a lot of targets this year.

Yeah, but they just signed Pettigrew to a big contract, and their defense is Suh, and pretty much nobody else.

They needed defense.

Posted by Malcolm on May 10 2014,10:25
Suh's the biggest name, but he's not the only dude on that D that counts.
Posted by Malcolm on May 10 2014,10:29

(TheCatt @ May 09 2014,18:52)
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QUOTE
The Browns' hierachy made its Day 1 draft decisions with owner Jimmy Haslam and general manager Ray Farmer having full knowledge of Gordon's pending status of the positive test, sources told ESPN Senior NFL Analyst Chris Mortensen. The team has been targeting one or two receivers in the remaining rounds of the draft.

The Browns' coaching staff, meanwhile, was unaware of the situation until ESPN.com issued its report, sources said

Oh, Browns.  You're so... Browns.

Come on, man.  Do you know how much it costs to send an internal memo?  They got to save as much cash as they can so Johnny Mediocrity can fuck them over a barrel on his contract and be not just a bust, but an overpaid bust ... the best kind to watch.



Posted by Stranger on May 10 2014,11:17

(Malcolm @ May 10 2014,13:29)
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(TheCatt @ May 09 2014,18:52)
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The Browns' hierachy made its Day 1 draft decisions with owner Jimmy Haslam and general manager Ray Farmer having full knowledge of Gordon's pending status of the positive test, sources told ESPN Senior NFL Analyst Chris Mortensen. The team has been targeting one or two receivers in the remaining rounds of the draft.

The Browns' coaching staff, meanwhile, was unaware of the situation until ESPN.com issued its report, sources said

Oh, Browns.  You're so... Browns.

Come on, man.  Do you know how much it costs to send an internal memo?  They got to save as much cash as they can so Johnny Mediocrity can fuck them over a barrel on his contract and be not just a bust, but an overpaid bust ... the best kind to watch.

You're fucking ignorant aren't u?! U know rookie contracts are pretty much slotted for where they are picked and are all for four years.

But I'm sure u already knew that cause u sure talk like u do.

Posted by Malcolm on May 10 2014,11:50
I'm as well informed as the Browns coaching staff.  I base that statement on the fact that we hear about player suspensions at the same time.  Only four years?  They better start saving up.


Posted by TheCatt on May 10 2014,13:17
I sense that the optimism bubble has burst.
Posted by Leisher on May 12 2014,10:04
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I sense that the optimism bubble has burst.


That bubble doesn't burst. It just deflates once the season starts, and then begins filling up again immediately after the Super Bowl.

So I was watching post draft stuff on ESPN, and I was a bit befuddled.

Mel Kiper Jr. said the Steelers had one of the best drafts overall. WTF? We needed WR and CB, and only drafted one of each, and that was in the 5th and 6th rounds respectively.

Then Bill Polian called the Browns out for being a "draft loser". WTF? Sorry, but get two picks in the first round, grab the draft's top rated CB, get the most polarizing asshole in years, sell tons of tickets and jerseys because of it, AND get a first round pick for next year's draft? Sign me up for that "loss".

Posted by TheCatt on May 12 2014,11:01
I've heard similar ratings of the Steelers.

The apparent issue with the Browns is that people whoke up and realized Manziel sucked.  Or they didn't like what they did after that steal from the Bills.

Posted by Leisher on May 12 2014,11:12
Time will tell. Draft ratings don't really mean shit. It's what those players contribute over the years that determines if a draft was successful or not.

I wish ESPN had been around in the late 60s-early 70s. It would have been interesting to see how they rated the Steelers' drafts, specifically the 1974 class that contained 4 future hall of fame players.

On a personal note, you know what the most depressing thing about the Manziel pick is? I honestly have been pulling for Cleveland to do well out of loyalty to my friends/family that are Browns fans. These people are die hard and that organization feeds them a shit sandwich to eat year after year. They deserve a winner, and I've always promised them that if they ever reach a Super Bowl I will root for them. However, if that little asshole is behind center, I can't and won't.

I can cheer for a team to support my family, but I can't cheer for Manziel. If I did that, I'd feel so classless and dirty that I might as well start rooting for the Wolverines.

Posted by TheCatt on May 12 2014,12:17
Yeah, draft ratings can only be made 10 years later.  It's just one more damned thing for them to talk about until the season actually starts.
Posted by Leisher on May 12 2014,12:46
My phone just got an update from Sportscenter that read: "Browns fire coach Mike Brown, name David Griffin GM."

Freudian slip.

Posted by Leisher on May 13 2014,10:41
Dallas just signed this guy:


He might be the only Dallas Cowboy I've ever liked.

Posted by Troy on May 13 2014,11:10
Are you kidding me Greg Hardy? It was looking like your crazy ass turned the corner.
Posted by Leisher on May 16 2014,07:08
Remember when Michael Sam came out? Remember how he just wanted to be a player and not treated special?

Well, he apparently has been shooting a reality show, and < the NFL (from players to reporters) are starting to sour on him. >

Honestly, I don't blame them. It certainly does feel like he's exploiting his own sexual orientation for profit and exposure.

Jason Collins didn't do this shit.

Posted by Malcolm on May 16 2014,07:18

(Leisher @ May 16 2014,09:08)
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Well, he apparently has been shooting a reality show, and < the NFL (from players to reporters) are starting to sour on him. >

Tonight at 8 on ESPN ... "Tight Ends" with Michael Sam.
Posted by Leisher on May 16 2014,10:47
Cleveland finally addressed their WR situation. They released Greg Little and brought in Miles Austin and Earl Bennett.
Posted by Vince on May 17 2014,02:29

(Leisher @ May 16 2014,09:08)
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Well, he apparently has been shooting a reality show, and < the NFL (from players to reporters) are starting to sour on him. >

They'll all make nicey-nice with him soon, or the gaystapo will have them fined and fired.
Posted by Malcolm on May 17 2014,10:37

(Leisher @ May 16 2014,12:47)
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Cleveland finally addressed their WR situation. They released Greg Little and brought in Miles Austin and Earl Bennett.

Little always underperformed.  Perma-scrub.  Guess Dallas had to cut someone.  Wonder why it wasn't Romo.
Posted by Malcolm on May 17 2014,10:39

(Vince @ May 17 2014,04:29)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ May 16 2014,09:08)
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Well, he apparently has been shooting a reality show, and < the NFL (from players to reporters) are starting to sour on him. >

They'll all make nicey-nice with him soon, or the gaystapo will have them fined and fired.

I doubt it.
Posted by Vince on May 18 2014,19:13
Don Jones and Brendan Eich might disagree with you on that
Posted by Malcolm on May 18 2014,19:46

(Vince @ May 18 2014,21:13)
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Don Jones and Brendan Eich might disagree with you on that

I don't recall them being employed by the NFL.  Let me put this in perspective.  The NFL employs murderers, thieves, thugs, steroid/drug users in droves.  They are not Mozilla.  Shit, the NFL slogan should be, "Come for the millions of dollars, stay for the brain damage and knee injuries."  The NFL does not give one one-millionth of a fuck about being PC.  The only reason they stepped in on the Dolphins bullying thing was their association with the Play 60 movement ... which puts them in contact with loads of school children.

If Michael Sam gets results on the field, he'll have way more leeway than if he sucks.  If he does suck, he'll get roasted the same way any other player would.  The NFL fan base does not feel the need to apply some kind of affirmative action handicap to its opinion on his playing.



Posted by Malcolm on May 20 2014,10:23
< Former players > accuse NFL of pushing painkillers.
Posted by TheCatt on May 20 2014,14:05
< Closest Vikings will get to a Super Bowl >
Posted by Malcolm on May 20 2014,14:18
Fuck that stadium.
Posted by Leisher on May 20 2014,14:46
20 years from now:

Newscaster: "Today, scientists announced a cure for cancer."

Malcolm: "Fuck that cure!"

Posted by Malcolm on May 20 2014,14:53
There was an implicit deal with the public: we'll back the new stadium if the Vikings don't suck.  They sucked hard.
Posted by Malcolm on May 23 2014,11:12
< Senators still pestering > Redskins.  Because there's nothing else going on in the country or world that merits their attention.
Posted by TheCatt on May 28 2014,10:43
Fucking Browns.

Play the Skins in a preseason game.  Managed to get $30 a ticket.

Posted by Malcolm on May 30 2014,12:14
Josh Gordon < gets > a fishing buddy.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 03 2014,10:29
< Dan the Man > jumps on the bandwagon.

Also, < Tebow still delusional >.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 04 2014,10:19

(Malcolm @ Jun. 03 2014,12:29)
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< Dan the Man > jumps on the bandwagon.

< Or not >.
QUOTE
The Pro Football Hall of Famer says he inadvertently became a plaintiff and doesn't suffer any effects from head injuries.

Inadvertently?

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 05 2014,07:16
The "QB with a chip on his shoulder" torch has officially been < passed to Kaep >.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 05 2014,07:34
That's a terrible contract. It's an anchor around the team's neck.

Kaep is an ok QB, but he's not among the elite. Why give him elite money?

Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 05 2014,07:52
Yeah, I just don't get it.  I really don't.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 05 2014,09:13
NFL concussion protocol: about < as effective as the TSA >.


Posted by Leisher on Jun. 05 2014,10:31
The $110 million dollar man:


Ok, < here's the reality of the contract >.

What you need to know:
QUOTE
As the details have trickled out, we know it’s a bit more complicated. Last night, Pro Football Talk reported that only $13.073 million of the deal is guaranteed at signing. Kaepernick’s signing bonus was significantly smaller than several of those other quarterbacks had in their monster deals, and it’s because the structure is quite a bit different. According to PFT, the guarantees in his deal switch from injury-only to fully guaranteed on April 1 of each year.

That essentially means the Niners have the choice to move on from Kaepernick before the start of each season. You can see why the front office was reportedly ecstatic about the deal. If Kaepernick turns into the superstar they hope he can be, they’re paying market value for a top-tier quarterback and won’t mind footing the bill. If he doesn’t, they can move on whenever they want.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 06 2014,07:49
< Miami false hope >.
QUOTE
"Nobody can ever key on me," Wallace said. "Last year, you kind of knew where I was every single play."

Anywhere that wasn't the end zone.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 10 2014,10:43
< Watch the NBA finals last night >?  No, neither did I.
QUOTE
Awkwardly, as CBSDC.com reports, the song behind the advertisement was written by a lifelong Redskins fan.

Hah.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 11 2014,08:18
< Josh Gordon >, picking up the douchebag WR banner right where Randy Moss left it.  "I play when I want to play."


Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 12 2014,10:32
< Falcons > draw the short straw.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 14 2014,12:29
< Chuck Noll died. >

He will be missed.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 17 2014,10:35
Apparently there are reports that a 50-foot woman has escaped and is somewhere in the Cleveland vicinity.  Authorities base that presumption on this photographic evidence of a discarded six-foot used tampon found earlier.


Inspired by < Johnny Douchebag > signing his contract.



Posted by Leisher on Jun. 17 2014,10:39
Love the commentary Malcolm.

As for the contract, that's how they should be done. I'm so glad the NFL got smart and ended the ridiculous contracts for players who have never played a snap in the NFL.

$4.3 million guaranteed is solid money, and protects the Browns organization if Manziel is a bust.

No more of the $100 million contracts with $50 million guaranteed for guys who can then tank without a care in the world.

Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 17 2014,10:39
I think your math is off.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 17 2014,10:42
QUOTE
The 22nd pick of the 2013 draft, Atlanta Falcons cornerback Desmond Trufant, is slated to earn nearly $8.2 million over the first four years of his rookie deal with $4.3 million guaranteed.


You're right. I saw the numbers in the article, and thought they were for Manziel.

However, there is now a pay scale for rookies, and that's what I was referring to. I think Brafford was the last one to get a ridiculous signing bonus, and I know it was $50 million.

Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 17 2014,11:52

(TheCatt @ Jun. 17 2014,13:39)
QUOTE
I think your math is off.

I was actually referring to the 50' woman, 6' tampon.

Apparently I was double right :)

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 17 2014,12:12

(TheCatt @ Jun. 17 2014,13:52)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Jun. 17 2014,13:39)
QUOTE
I think your math is off.

I was actually referring to the 50' woman, 6' tampon.

Apparently I was double right :)

I was going to figure out the correct proportion, but I'm getting lazy in my old age.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 17 2014,12:14
She's small for her size.
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 17 2014,12:24

(TPRJones @ Jun. 17 2014,15:14)
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She's small for her size.

lol
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 18 2014,08:16
< U.S. Patent Office cancels "Redskins" trademark. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2014,08:53

(Leisher @ Jun. 18 2014,10:16)
QUOTE
< U.S. Patent Office cancels "Redskins" trademark. >

QUOTE
The group argued that the Redskins should lose their federal trademark protection based on a law that prohibits registered names that are disparaging, scandalous, contemptuous or disreputable.

So the DOZENS of high school that use the Redskins name, they lose it, too?  How 'bout the Fighting Irish?  Sounds kind of offensive.  So are the following, all names of high school teams:

Red Raiders
Redmen
Reds
Savages

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2014,09:01
< Jacksonville's latest bust >.
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 18 2014,09:36

(Leisher @ Jun. 18 2014,11:16)
QUOTE
< U.S. Patent Office cancels "Redskins" trademark. >

That explains the email I got 5 seconds after reading your post

QUOTE
STATEMENT BY BOB RASKOPF, TRADEMARK ATTORNEY FOR THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS
LOUDOUN COUNTY, Va. – The following is a statement by Bob Raskopf, trademark attorney for the Washington Redskins, regarding today’s split decision by the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board:
“We’ve seen this story before.   And just like last time, today’s ruling will have no effect at all on the team’s ownership of and right to use the Redskins name and logo.
‘Redskins Are Denied Trademarks’
-Washington Post, April 3, 1999
‘Redskins Can Keep Trademark, Judge Rules’
-Washington Post, October 2, 2003
We are confident we will prevail once again, and that the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board’s divided ruling will be overturned on appeal.  This case is no different than an earlier case, where the Board cancelled the Redskins’ trademark registrations, and where a federal district court disagreed and reversed the Board.
As today’s dissenting opinion correctly states, “the same evidence previously found insufficient to support cancellation” here “remains insufficient” and does not support cancellation.                              
This ruling – which of course we will appeal – simply addresses the team’s federal trademark registrations, and the team will continue to own and be able to protect its marks without the registrations.  The registrations will remain effective while the case is on appeal.
When the case first arose more than 20 years ago, a federal judge in the District of Columbia ruled on appeal in favor of the Washington Redskins and their trademark registrations.        
Why?
As the district court’s ruling made clear in 2003, the evidence ‘is insufficient to conclude that during the relevant time periods the trademark at issue disparaged Native Americans...’ The court continued, ‘The Court concludes that the [Board’s] finding that the marks at issue ‘may disparage’ Native Americans is unsupported by substantial evidence, is logically flawed, and fails to apply the correct legal standard to its own findings of fact.’ Those aren’t my words. That was the court’s conclusion. We are confident that when a district court review’s today’s split decision, it will reach a similar conclusion.
In today’s ruling, the Board’s Marc Bergsman agreed, concluding in his dissenting opinion:
It is astounding that the petitioners did not submit any evidence regarding the Native American population during the relevant time frame, nor did they introduce any evidence or argument as to what comprises a substantial composite of that population thereby leaving it to the majority to make petitioner’s case have some semblance of meaning.
The evidence in the current claim is virtually identical to the evidence a federal judge decided was insufficient more than ten years ago. We expect the same ultimate outcome here.”

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2014,09:04
Today in NFL news:

< Mike Vick fails history >.

< Justin Blackmon > probably just getting high while suspended.
QUOTE
Gunter Brewer, one of Blackmon's former college coaches, told Frenette the receiver texted that he's "getting help."

I'm sure by "help" he means "drugs."

QUOTE
"Every now and again, he will respond to my text," receiver Mike Brown said.

... in between loading the bong.



Posted by Leisher on Jun. 24 2014,21:38

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 26 2014,07:27
< Looks > like Bortles will be starting soon.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 27 2014,09:03
Johnny Douchebag: < I'm a douchebag >.


Posted by Stranger on Jun. 27 2014,09:53
So what, he likes to have a few cold ones on the weekends.. I would say i like to do the same thing but i don't have TMZ following me around.  And if they were they would have had many worse pictures of me than getting drunk.

Personally I don't get anything douchebag outta that interview. But because some pencil neck reporter's headline says "I'm not going to change my life for anyone" then the mindless reader is just gonna assume he's an ass.  He, just like many other 20 some year old professional athletes are doing the same thing but Johnny's just gets the press.

Its still the offseason and i'd have a lot bigger problem with it if it were happening during training camp. but until then ball out son! i know i would be! $$$$$$$$$

So in some people's eyes if you like to get drunk and pull in some hot tail and make some good money your a douchebag.  Well then i guess i would be considered the same thing if i was in his shoes, cause that sounds like fun to me.  Thats just haters being haters.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 27 2014,10:05
QUOTE
He, just like many other 20 some year old professional athletes are doing the same thing but Johnny's just gets the press.

After he courted them in college, his fame isn't a defense.

Posted by Stranger on Jun. 27 2014,10:26
Now Shia LeBeouf, he's a douchebag.

< http://www.foxnews.com/enterta....ice-say >

Noone can say anything worse about Johnny than he likes to party, maybe he can be a little show off-y at times yeah but thats todays young athletic culture now.  Look at Colin Kaepernick, he had a commercial with a song repeating the lines "i'm the man, i'm the man, i'm the man" Thats not being self righteous?  Did anyone watch the NBA draft lastnight? did you see the outrageous suits these guys are wearing?  Its all about ME with ALL of these athletes.  Johnny is no different, and he sure as hell doesn't need to appologize to any reporters or anyone else for partying on the weekends.  He only needs his team to be cool with him, and they're all doing the same shit.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 27 2014,10:33
QUOTE
Its all about ME with ALL of these athletes.  Johnny is no different...

That's my problem with Johnny.  If you want to be seen as a team leader (which is virtually a prereq for being a successful QB), you had best be somewhat different from the rest of the team members who ... aren't.

Posted by Stranger on Jun. 27 2014,10:50
I get that, and i do agree.. But all of the other spineless QB's we've had here in Cleveland that just towed the company line hasn't done shit for us.  At least the dude has a spine, he's a straight shooter and pretty articulate and humble in his interviews.  I think that the rest of the team respects that a HELL of a lot more than Brandon Weeden saying all the right things but not having an ounce of leadership in him.  

I know i would get behind and respect a dude thats for real and doesn't hide anything over some brown-nosing pussy that "does all the right things".  I have people that i work with that are the same way. I don't like that pussy in the office next to me that has his nose up the bosses ass, but i kinda do like the free speaking asshole a few doors down, i'd take him into battle any day of the week over the other guy.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 27 2014,11:40
QUOTE
I think that the rest of the team respects that a HELL of a lot more than Brandon Weeden saying all the right things but not having an ounce of leadership in him.

Brandon Weeden's non-physical talents were the least of his problems.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 27 2014,12:12
< Unique and different >.
QUOTE
"My situation is unique and different..."

Yep, there's never been another flavour of the month rookie QB drafted, anywhere, ever, that has received undue media scrutiny.



Posted by Stranger on Jul. 01 2014,07:41
Ok... i get it, i can no longer defend him anymore.. He's hanging with Bieber now?!?!

< http://www.tmz.com/2014....-tyrese >

Dude's addicted to being a celebrity.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 01 2014,08:05
Shit, I don't even need to write a punchline for that one.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 01 2014,11:54
He can win 7 Super Bowls, and he'll still be the douchebag that hung out with Justin Beiber.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 01 2014,13:43
< Gators > release calendar promoting murderer.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jul. 01 2014,14:43
I'd be interested in seeing how many murderers each college football program has had on it's roster.  Which school would have the most?
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 01 2014,14:51

(Cakedaddy @ Jul. 01 2014,16:43)
QUOTE
I'd be interested in seeing how many murderers each college football program has had on it's roster.  Which school would have the most?

< Smart money is on Miami or Florida >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 03 2014,08:00
< J-Cam's > new position, according to his twit bio.
QUOTE
Pro Bowl pass catcher

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 07 2014,08:53
< http://www.al.com/sports....ph.html >

Johnny rolling a hundo so he can do some blow!

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2014,09:22

(Stranger @ Jul. 07 2014,10:53)
QUOTE
< http://www.al.com/sports....ph.html >

Johnny rolling a hundo so he can do some blow!

That photo is a cheap shot.  Every call boy deserves some privacy right after getting paid.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 07 2014,09:30
He's clearly going to snort coke off Justin Beiber's ass.

Seriously though, I hope the NFL drug tests him based on that photo. With this much smoke, he's well on his way to being the next Josh Gordon.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2014,10:44
QUOTE
With this much smoke, he's well on his way to being the next Josh Gordon.

< Speaking of which... >

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2014,12:49
< Gonzo on TEs >.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 07 2014,12:51
Gonzo is right and wrong.

Yeah, doing it by position seems stupid, but at the same time, no team wins the Super Bowl because their Left Guard was the best in the league...

Also, the NFL currently has the best free agency system in all of pro sports. Every franchise can compete, unlike the NBA and MLB.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 09 2014,13:11

(Malcolm @ Jul. 01 2014,16:51)
QUOTE

(Cakedaddy @ Jul. 01 2014,16:43)
QUOTE
I'd be interested in seeing how many murderers each college football program has had on it's roster.  Which school would have the most?

< Smart money is on Miami or Florida >.

< Miami trying to regain ground >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 10 2014,08:21
< Josh gets a drinking buddy this season >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 11 2014,08:58
< Reaping the long term benefits > of the Favre trade.

< Texans bury > Andre Johnson's career.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 11 2014,14:06

(Malcolm @ Jul. 10 2014,10:21)
QUOTE
< Josh gets a drinking buddy this season >.

< And another >.
QUOTE
After failing multiple drug tests, Brazill was tagged with a four-game ban to start the 2013 season. He acknowledged at the time that he had to choose between "money or marijuana."

Hope he's got a trust fund or two to fall back on.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 14 2014,10:27
< Cleveland > keeps setting it up.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 15 2014,10:41
< Kluwe > still at it.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 15 2014,11:10
I lost all respect for Kluwe a long time ago.

He seemed to move beyond activist, and now it seems he wants to be a martyr.

He needs to just go away.

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 16 2014,06:33
10 days till training camps! 24 days till preseason games! 50 days till opening day and the Johnny Football runs up and down the field flashing money signs all over Heinz Field decimating the Steelers!
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 16 2014,07:14
There are few things as entertaining as the delusion Browns fans have between the second week of February and the first week of September.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 16 2014,08:30

(Leisher @ Jul. 16 2014,09:14)
QUOTE
There are few things as entertaining as the delusion Browns fans have between the second week of February and the first week of September.

How about the utter despair and disappointment they feel during October through December?
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 16 2014,09:32
< Orton gone >.  This means Brandon Weeden is plan B in Dallas.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 16 2014,10:39
< Kluwe might have a point >.  While you're bored.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 16 2014,12:52
I have no idea why he's suing. Don't care. He might have the greatest point in the world, but all I hear is "Look at me".
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 22 2014,10:47
Today in the NFL QB shell game:

< Browns set deadline > to potentially fuck up their season.

< Norv Turner > may be coaching a different Vikings team than the one in my town.

And finally, < Tony Dungy v. Michael Sam v. Keith Olberman >.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 22 2014,11:05
< More in the Kluwe saga. >

The coach is question has been suspended 3 games for saying "put all the gays on an island and nuking it" to which Kluwe laughed off because he and another player knew the coach was joking. He's also issued a public apology. The Vikings have donated $100,000 to LGBT groups because of this incident.

Meanwhile...
QUOTE
the summary of the report, however, did not find evidence to support Kluwe's claim he was cut for reasons other than his on-field performance. Investigators talked to former All-Pro punter Craig Hentrich, who gave Kluwe a "C" for his 2012 performance, and former Chicago Bears general manager Jerry Angelo, who said he "in all likelihood" would have released Kluwe after that season. According to the report, Priefer gave Kluwe the highest grade for his 2012 performance of any of the Vikings' season-ending reviews.


and

QUOTE
Portions of the report painted Kluwe in a poor picture, like his jokes about the Jerry Sandusky scandal and an incident where he dropped his pants in front of 20-25 businesspeople who were touring the locker room.


Fuck Kluwe. He's a hypocrite and an asshole.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 22 2014,11:10
QUOTE
Halunen said the punter still plans to file suit against the team in Minnesota state court next week and will seek damages in the neighborhood of $10 million.

That's a bit douchey.

QUOTE
Portions of the report painted Kluwe in a poor picture, like his jokes about the Jerry Sandusky scandal and an incident where he dropped his pants in front of 20-25 businesspeople who were touring the locker room.

I need some context for those because I can imagine some hilarious things to do.

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 22 2014,11:10

(Malcolm @ Jul. 22 2014,13:47)
QUOTE
< Browns set deadline > to potentially fuck up their season.

To me this means Hoyer starts the season, and he should.  The coaches must already know its Hoyer's job to lose and they want to get him ready to play the home opener and be prepared for a couple of weeks.

Its no secret that the start of the season is the Steelers, Saints and the Ravens followed by the bye week.  These teams would feast upon a rookie qb.  So i predict they start the season 1-2 (beating the Steelers of course) and Johnny will be in by week 5.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 22 2014,12:22
QUOTE
So i predict they start the season 1-2 (beating the Steelers of course) and Johnny will be in by week 5.


Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh...


Posted by Stranger on Jul. 22 2014,12:47
i've been waiting for that one...
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2014,07:50
< Encouraging news > for those of us in fantasy football land who are in keeper leagues and feel like rolling the dice, e.g. me.  Betting most people's drafts start in a month or less.  We want a pick 'em set up this year?  Think we neglected it previously.


Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 23 2014,08:18
I'm in for a pick-em.
Posted by Stranger on Jul. 23 2014,08:26
are u suggesting a DTman fantasy football league?
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2014,08:27

(Stranger @ Jul. 23 2014,10:26)
QUOTE
are u suggesting a DTman fantasy football league?

A) That's been suggested before, but never been done, probably because:

B) We don't have 10-12 members of this board who are football fans.

This is just picking game winners.  We used to run two, one with spreads and one without.

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 23 2014,08:32
yeah, didnt think about not having enough people.
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 23 2014,09:58
Well, we could always ask friends who aren't DTMan... if anyone has any?
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2014,10:07

(TheCatt @ Jul. 23 2014,11:58)
QUOTE
Well, we could always ask friends who aren't DTMan... if anyone has any?

I'd say the minimum would be 10 people.

I see me, you, Leish, Stranger, ... ?

Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 23 2014,10:14
Cake?
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 23 2014,12:08
8 man is the minimum. Also, I won't fantasy with anyone who doesn't watch The League.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2014,12:11

(Leisher @ Jul. 23 2014,14:08)
QUOTE
8 man is the minimum. Also, I won't fantasy with anyone who doesn't watch The League.

A) I've played in 8-man leagues before.  Your bench can be so deep that you have to come up with non-standard scoring systems (like damn near playing all your dudes every week).  It's like playing poker with 3 people.

B) I am unaware of that show.



Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 23 2014,13:12

(Leisher @ Jul. 23 2014,15:08)
QUOTE
8 man is the minimum. Also, I won't fantasy with anyone who doesn't watch The League.

I've seen previews for it, does that count?

TPR, Gordo and Thib could join and just, uh suck.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2014,13:31

(TheCatt @ Jul. 23 2014,15:12)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Jul. 23 2014,15:08)
QUOTE
8 man is the minimum. Also, I won't fantasy with anyone who doesn't watch The League.

I've seen previews for it, does that count?

TPR, Gordo and Thib could join and just, uh suck.

That's like having bots.
Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 23 2014,16:28
I'll join a thing that involves a one-time set of making random decisions (like a March Madness bracket), but if it involves ongoing attention I probably shouldn't get involved.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jul. 23 2014,19:19
I'm in, if I can be Taco.  Because that's about the level of attention I'd be giving it.  I don't follow pro ball.  Don't care enough to research it.  And I WILL be playing hurt players.  But my password won't be Taco.

We didn't have any Indian girls in our school.  So, who's Indian classmate will the trophy be based on?

Posted by Troy on Jul. 23 2014,20:04
If we do fantasy football league(which is an excellent idea), we should consider inviting any wives that are good and or play.

My wife has finished higher than me in a league at least once. She would probably stomp some of the dead weight.

e: omg my wife is Katie Aselton from The League holy shit



Posted by Leisher on Jul. 24 2014,08:13
< Justin Blackmon is an idiot. >

I'm a big fan of this fantasy idea.

QUOTE
e: omg my wife is Katie Aselton from The League holy shit


Katie is smoking hot.

Also, if you're not watching The League, shame on you.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 24 2014,09:09
If we get to the magical 10, I'd be in.  8, I'd probably still do it, but it won't be as much fun.  If we find enough, we should set ground rules like PPR or not, how defenses get scored, etc.
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 24 2014,09:28
I would be in for 8.
Posted by Stranger on Jul. 24 2014,10:13
u can count me in for some FF.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 24 2014,10:19

(Stranger @ Jul. 24 2014,12:13)
QUOTE
u can count me in for some FF.

You, me, Leish, Catt, Troy.  That's halfway to preferable.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 24 2014,10:30
< Sidney Rice > retires.
Posted by Troy on Jul. 24 2014,11:54
10 is much better than 8. 12 is fun, but the pickings get slim.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 25 2014,15:34
< The Browns are concerned about Manziel. >

I think it's hilarious that everyone has to pretend that rolled up $20 wasn't for what we all know it was for...

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 25 2014,15:51
QUOTE
I think it's hilarious that everyone has to pretend that rolled up $20 wasn't for what we all know it was for...

I'm waiting for Stranger to say he's testing a new kind of Gatorade powder that you have to snort to take.

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 28 2014,06:27
The coaches and the owner made it clear over the weekend that they didn't like his off the field antics.  GOOD!!

Hoyer is kicking his ass to start the camp and i'm glad, i feel comfortable with Hoyer and he deserves it.  Johnny walked out to practice yesterday with neon green shoes on, everybody else was in team attire.  10 minutes later Johnny was sent back in to change out his cleats.  What a fucking idiot! he should be a little more worried about reading defenses than thinking of what shoes he's wearing.

Dude's head is screwed on all wrong, i'm worried about this little shit right now.

Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 28 2014,06:47

(Stranger @ May 09 2014,07:58)
QUOTE
I look at it this way...
...
TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!!

Its a swing for the fences. He's boom or bust, if he busts no real big loss, we've had plenty of busts, but if he booms...

Odds of bust... going up?
Posted by Stranger on Jul. 29 2014,11:23
< http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014....e-tests >

interesting breaking news on Josh Gordon's drug test..  Sample "A" was barely positive and Sample "B" was negative..  

Ray Rice beats the shit out of a woman= 2 game suspension

Josh Gordon passes 70 drug tests and barely goes over in one test and there is a sample that is still negative = 1 year suspension?!

GET IT RIGHT NFL!!

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2014,11:41
QUOTE
Gordon presumably has a case that holds more water than the average bong.

Josh would know, wouldn't he?

QUOTE
But because the “A” bottle was labeled “A” and not “B” and because the “B” bottle was labeled “B” and not “A”, the end result is a positive and a minimum one-year banishment from the NFL.  Flip the bottles when it’s time to apply the labels, and Gordon isn’t facing a suspension.

Uh, fuck no.  The fact it was on the cusp of some arbitrary limit imposed by the NFL doesn't mean he wasn't doing shit.  It means he was more than likely ingesting some substance that caused the chem signature in his piss.  Since they aren't naming the substance in question, I've got no baseline for the average concentration in a non-user.

If we assume the mystery chemical is THC, then a non-user would have levels significantly below the concentrations in the article.



Posted by Stranger on Jul. 29 2014,12:09
I agree, if millions upon millions of dollars were on the line i wouldn't even get close to the shit.  But he did pass 70 tests and i heard that the Olympics will allow up to about 100ng, a much higher limit. I'm not sure what the baseline is but you know lawers are gonna be attacking the system when it comes to something like this,  its what they do.

Regardless, dude has made bad decisions, but the NFL really needs to think hard about the personal conduct policy vs the drug policy.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 29 2014,12:27
QUOTE
the NFL really needs to think hard about the personal conduct policy vs the drug policy.


Totally agree.

Dude slapping his girl around is only 2 games, but a first time failed drug test is 4 games? News flash: Marijuana is LEGAL as a recreational drug in two states now! Slapping your lady around is still illegal in all 50 states. One hurts yourself. The other hurts someone else.

(Yes, I know what's in contracts overweighs laws, like motorcycle riding, but the point remains that priorities are out of whack.)

This is a no brainer. Ray Rice could have been used as an example. He's a washed up player who Baltimore really wouldn't lose sleep over losing. The NFL sure looks like a hypocrite right now with their breast cancer awareness push.

"Hey, we don't care if your husband slaps you around so long as you have healthy sweater melons!"

Beyond that horseshit, look at that little dickweed Johnny Manziel. Here's a guy who has smoke all around him in the last year. He's been involved in a possible scandal in college, he never actually set foot on campus, he has hung out with Justin Beiber, he's flashed big rolls of cash and front row seats in Vegas, he's rolling up $20s in a men's room, etc.

But we're supposed to ignore all that. None of it matters. The players union would come unglued if the NFL sat Johnny down for a chat. I'm not even sure they're allowed to give him a piss test after seeing the picture of the rolled up $20.

This kid is potentially a poster boy for the league, good or bad. It'd be cool if there was something in place to reach out to him now rather than suspend him later when he gets caught with Beiber's semen in his system.

Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 29 2014,12:47
Well, drug tests do have a false positive rate somewhere between 5% and 10%.  While it's not likely that he'd have two false pos in a row with the A and the B, it's certainly not impossible.  The odds of that go up if the same lab did both, in which case whatever mistake made the first false pos could still be in effect on the second test.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 29 2014,14:41
By the way, < this is bad karma. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2014,15:51

(Leisher @ Jul. 29 2014,16:41)
QUOTE
By the way, < this is bad karma. >

If a long dead goat and his owner have psyched out the Cubs for over 100 years, I can believe Modell's ghost could hang back to torment Cleveland for at least a millennium.

I can see the headlines now:

In a stunning turn of events today, LeBron James has inexplicably been traded to Baltimore, despite their having no NBA team.  That's because, again folks, for unknown reasons, LeBron James has decided to become the first NBA player to cross over to the NFL after being signed by the Ravens.  What's made the story even bigger, ladies and gentlemen, is the record setting NFL debut of LeBron against the lowly Cleveland Browns, breaking single-game records in receiving yards, number of receptions, and touchdowns ... on the offensive side.  He also became the first player since Deion Sanders to play both ways, and tied the single game records for both sacks and interceptions.  Absolutely astonishing.  One of those sacks also ended the season of rookie quarterback Johnny Manziel, who crumpled to the ground after a clean hit.  X-rays later showed a thin, glass rod had shattered in his urethra.  When asked how the item got there, Manziel responded, "Party at Bieber's last night.  I also did coke off his ass.  Or out of it, I can't remember."

Finally, on the more mysterious side of the news, Art Modell's headstone had a new inscription chiseled on it, seemingly replacing the old one, though authorities and graveyard officials are certain it's the same piece of rock.  Whether created by a gifted fraudster of a stone worker or black magic, the words read FUCK YOU CLEVELAND.



Posted by Stranger on Jul. 29 2014,17:08
Indians > Twins

Cavs > Timberwolves

Browns > Vikings

Buckeyes > Golden Gophers

True story, I win!

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2014,18:46

(Stranger @ Jul. 29 2014,19:08)
QUOTE
Indians > Twins

Cavs > Timberwolves

Browns > Vikings

Buckeyes > Golden Gophers

True story, I win!

Twins, last world series win in 1991.
Indians, last world series win in 1948.  Though I'm sure the vintage post-WWII-era pride stirred in the scant few thousand people who recall it more than makes up for the distant memory.

Cavs, 0 championship wins.  T-Wolves, 0 wins.  Draw.

Browns v. Vikings:
While the Vikes have the worst goddamn Super Bowl record in NFL history, at least we don't have a whiny, media whore Bieber entourage member who carries around tiny paper spyglasses made out of $20s.

So he can better see the cocaine that he's about to snort through them.  Shit, even Ponder would use a c-note.

The U of M sucks at every sport except hockey and has forever.  We will go arctic-style Deliverance on your ass when you step out on the ice.



Posted by Leisher on Jul. 29 2014,19:58
QUOTE
In a stunning turn of events today, LeBron James has inexplicably been traded to Baltimore, despite their having no NBA team.  That's because, again folks, for unknown reasons, LeBron James has decided to become the first NBA player to cross over to the NFL after being signed by the Ravens.  What's made the story even bigger, ladies and gentlemen, is the record setting NFL debut of LeBron against the lowly Cleveland Browns, breaking single-game records in receiving yards, number of receptions, and touchdowns ... on the offensive side.  He also became the first player since Deion Sanders to play both ways, and tied the single game records for both sacks and interceptions.  Absolutely astonishing.  One of those sacks also ended the season of rookie quarterback Johnny Manziel, who crumpled to the ground after a clean hit.  X-rays later showed a thin, glass rod had shattered in his urethra.  When asked how the item got there, Manziel responded, "Party at Bieber's last night.  I also did coke off his ass.  Or out of it, I can't remember."

Finally, on the more mysterious side of the news, Art Modell's headstone had a new inscription chiseled on it, seemingly replacing the old one, though authorities and graveyard officials are certain it's the same piece of rock.  Whether created by a gifted fraudster of a stone worker or black magic, the words read FUCK YOU CLEVELAND.


I enjoyed that.

QUOTE
Twins, last world series win in 1991.
Indians, last world series win in 1948.  Though I'm sure the vintage post-WWII-era pride stirred in the scant few thousand people who recall it more than makes up for the distant memory.


Malcolm wins that one.

QUOTE
Cavs, 0 championship wins.  T-Wolves, 0 wins.  Draw.


I agree on the draw, but the Cavs are poised to win one, while I would happily place $100 on an official bet in Vegas that the Timberwolves won't win a championship in the next 50 years.

QUOTE
While the Vikes have the worst goddamn Super Bowl record in NFL history, at least we don't have a whiny, media whore Bieber entourage member who carries around tiny paper spyglasses made out of $20s.


That was great, but then...

QUOTE
So he can better see the cocaine that he's about to snort through them.


you made it less funny with the explanation. Subtle worked perfectly there.

QUOTE
Browns v. Vikings:
While the Vikes have the worst goddamn Super Bowl record in NFL history, at least we don't have a whiny, media whore Bieber entourage member who carries around tiny paper spyglasses made out of $20s.


Meanwhile in Pittsburgh...


Posted by Stranger on Jul. 30 2014,04:33
The Indians are better than the Twin right now and have been for the last few years.

Cavs have ALWAYS been better than the T-Wolves, no way is this a draw!  Minnesota is NBA Siberia, there is no argument there.

Why you gotta bring up our backup QB? who cares.. And as i recall we did win against the Vikes last year..

And i don't even need to bring up Buckeys vs. Golden Gophers, thats just not even close.

And by the way.. didn't you guys lose an NHL franchise? oh yeah you did! they moved to Dallas and WON!! HAHAHAHA

So yeah, as of right now,  Cleveland > the whole state of Minnesota.

No wonder you're so bitter all the time. It must suck being stuck in the land of 10,000 lakes, all you're teams are worse than Cleveland.

...And thats pretty bad.

Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 30 2014,04:39
It's not Pittsburgh, but we'll take these....

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 30 2014,04:44
Yeah, much respect to all you that have one or 3 or 6 of those blingy rings.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 30 2014,05:42
QUOTE
And by the way.. didn't you guys lose an NHL franchise? oh yeah you did! they moved to Dallas and WON!! HAHAHAHA


I keep preaching to you about bad karma, but you don't listen!

How can a Cleveland fan rub this in anyone's face? Of all the things that happened to your teams, this was the worst. Don't laugh at anyone else for experiencing the same thing!

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 30 2014,05:51
Ok.. so i can listen to it all the time from all you assholes, but if i say it then i'm out of line?  

FUCK THAT!

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 30 2014,05:55
And how can you "preach" to me about bad karma? i've seen more sucking than anybody else could even imagine.  Bad karma? what the fuck is that? all i've ever experienced was bad karma.  

So if i wanna say that Cleveland is better than Minnesota, i can, because right now we are and thats the truth.



Posted by Leisher on Jul. 30 2014,06:20
< San Antonio Raiders? >

QUOTE
Ok.. so i can listen to it all the time from all you assholes, but if i say it then i'm out of line?  

FUCK THAT!


You mad bro?  :D

I wasn't saying you couldn't talk shit! I was pointing out one specific thing you said, and advising against it.

QUOTE
And how can you "preach" to me about bad karma? i've seen more sucking than anybody else could even imagine.  Bad karma? what the fuck is that? all i've ever experianced was bad karma.


You have gone through some shit, but why risk it all with bad karma now? Things are turning around!

In your own words, I'm a Steelers fan that doesn't talk shit. Why do I do that? I guess because I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop. I remember the 80s. I know that the Steelers' relevance since the early 90s in pretty impressive. It's got to end at some point, right?

Thus, when you mock another team for reliving what was the worst moment in your favorite franchise's history, it made me cringe. It's like you're waving your weiner at the football gods.

QUOTE
So if i wanna say that Cleveland is better than Minnesota, i can, because right now we are and thats the truth.


Malcolm knows where he lives and bashes it. He's aware of their ranking in the sports world.

Most people don't even know where South Canada, I mean, Minnesota is or what's there besides a big mall and Prince.

Meanwhile, Cleveland is in the middle of the sports world right now with LeBron and Beiber's girlfriend.

Cleveland wins that argument all day. You don't even need to talk shit about it because it's not even close. But by all means, if you feel like it, and especially if you're responding to shit talk do so. I was just saying that if I was you, I'd avoid the bad karma topics.

And you know what? On that note, bad karma on Malcolm too. How can he bring up "The Move" when it happened to his state's team too?

Posted by Troy on Jul. 30 2014,08:02

(Stranger @ Jul. 30 2014,05:55)
QUOTE
i've seen more sucking than anybody else could even imagine.

Yessssss

e: that's what she said



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 30 2014,08:57
QUOTE
How can he bring up "The Move" when it happened to his state's team too?

Where do you think the Lakers came from?

As far as any potential hockey moves, eh, whatever.  All that went down before I moved up here and I'm not from this state, anyhow.  Then again, I did grow up in the place that used to have two teams of Cardinals, so I can't escape it no matter what state I live in.

As far as any college sports, I hate the U of M with a passion and wish nothing but the worst of luck and circumstances on that greedy institution.

There isn't a pro sports team in Minnesota that's going to win a title any time soon.  The best shot is hockey and we aren't willing to put together the offensive talent to do it.  But at least there are citizens who remember the last time we did win something and they aren't AARP members.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 30 2014,10:41
QUOTE
I hate the U of M with a passion and wish nothing but the worst of luck and circumstances on that greedy institution.


Me too!

Although, in my version the M stands for Michigan.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 31 2014,11:04
< Now that Orton's retiring >, we can hear the annual "Jay Cutler's going to dominate" announcement, because seven years isn't quite long enough to mature as a starter.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 31 2014,13:35
< Johnny > gets a glimpse of his future.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 01 2014,07:59
< Jamaal Charles >: Dangerous to his own teammates.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 01 2014,11:41
< Roger Goddell > makes the NFL look like jack-asses.
QUOTE
For the first time since the NFL announced a two-game suspension for Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice, commissioner Roger Goodell addressed the ban and said it was "consistent with other cases."


But wait, it gets better.
QUOTE
"There are different issues with different individuals," Goodell said. "The bottom line is everything is proceeding and they are doing everything they have been asked to do. We will make individual decisions, if necessary, with any one of those individuals."

They're completely consistent with their individual decisions, which could be different based upon who the player is.  Got it.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 02 2014,11:38
< Preseason rankings > by someone.  Of relevant note to some people here:
QUOTE

30. Washington Redskins
29. Cleveland Browns
28. Minnesota Vikings

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 02 2014,11:57
Ouch.  Below the Browns.  How's that feel?
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 02 2014,13:18

(Malcolm @ Aug. 02 2014,14:57)
QUOTE
Ouch.  Below the Browns.  How's that feel?

28, 29, and 30 may as well be the same #.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 04 2014,13:54
< DirectTV allowing non-subscribers access to the NFL Ticket. >

The catch is you have to live in an apartment or area where you can't get their service.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 04 2014,14:48

(Leisher @ Aug. 04 2014,15:54)
QUOTE
< DirectTV allowing non-subscribers access to the NFL Ticket. >

The catch is you have to live in an apartment or area where you can't get their service.

Oddly enough, that includes me.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 05 2014,07:09
Sign posted at an Arby's near where the Patriots will be playing the Redskins.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 05 2014,07:16
Nice.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 05 2014,10:16
Today in the NFL:

< David Wilson > done.

< Bengals > giving < the Browns > a run for "NFL team in Ohio with the worst starting QB."

< Norv Turner > says Bridgewater is "very high."

QUOTE
He's got really good burst, acceleration is there, vision is there.

- < John Harbaugh >

But enough about Ray Rice's intergender boxing career...



Posted by Troy on Aug. 05 2014,13:28

(Leisher @ Aug. 04 2014,13:54)
QUOTE
< DirectTV allowing non-subscribers access to the NFL Ticket. >

The catch is you have to live in an apartment or area where you can't get their service.

Wooooah. 200 bucks for every Sunday NFL game this year? Might have to consider that.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2014,08:01
< Miami QB-WR pair > can't hit the deep routes.

< The man with the concrete hands > is attempting a comeback.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 06 2014,08:05

(Malcolm @ Aug. 06 2014,11:01)
QUOTE
< The man with the concrete hands > is attempting a comeback.

Those concrete hands made the game winning, stretched, diving, drag-your-feet-inbounds catch to win a Super Bowl.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2014,08:10

(Leisher @ Aug. 06 2014,10:05)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Aug. 06 2014,11:01)
QUOTE
< The man with the concrete hands > is attempting a comeback.

Those concrete hands made the game winning, stretched, diving, drag-your-feet-inbounds catch to win a Super Bowl.

< Rick Allen > has better hands than Santonio Holmes.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2014,10:52
< Daniel Snyder > kind of shoots himself in the foot.
QUOTE
“It's what the name actually means. I would like people to know the history. Whether it's Lone Star Dietz, whether it's Walter ‘Blackie' Wetzel in Montana, it's just historical truths. And I'd like them to understand -- as I think most do -- that the name really means honor, respect."


< William "Lone Star" Dietz >...
QUOTE
George Preston Marshall, owner and founder of the Boston Braves sought to rename the franchise in 1933 after leaving the stadium they shared with the baseball team of the same name. Marshall was said to have named the Redskins in honor of Dietz, who claimed to be of the Sioux Nation, by analogy with the Red Sox who shared the team's new home, Fenway Park. Although a 1933 news article quotes Marshall as saying that he did not name the team in honor of Dietz. However, Marshall is only talking about why he specifically chose Redskins. Dietz was hired before the name change and is cited in many articles and by Marshall as being a reason he kept the Native American theme when changing the team name.
...
In December 1918 the Federal Bureau of Investigation looked into his heritage after he fraudulently registered for the draft as a "Non-Citizen Indian" with an allotment. The Bureau found he had taken on the identity of James One Star, an Oglala man of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation 12 years his senior who had disappeared in 1894.

Oops.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 06 2014,17:22




Jordan Gross, before and after retirement.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2014,18:11
Christ.  How many years between those 2 photos?
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 06 2014,19:21

(Malcolm @ Aug. 06 2014,21:11)
QUOTE
Christ.  How many years between those 2 photos?

Well... I'm not sure when the first was taken.  But the 2nd's about, what... 7 months post-retirement.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2014,22:02
Goddamn.  I'm surprised his gall bladder still works.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 07 2014,07:50
Anyone got enough buddies to make the DTMAN FF league happen?
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 07 2014,10:10
So we have:
Troy
Stranger
Leisher
Me
Malcolm

5 / ?

Anyone?  Anyone?

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 07 2014,10:34
< Rep > trolls for more votes.
QUOTE
"We are working with the Vikings to make every effort to eliminate the use of Washington's team name in promotional and game date materials and public address announcements," Kaler wrote. "They are participating in ongoing discussions with the University and American Indian community to ensure a peaceful, positive and safe event for fans while also providing space for protest and expression."

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 08 2014,11:59
< Ike Turner > Ray Rice receives standing ovation.


Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 09 2014,06:58
Maybe we can have a Not caring division of: Paul, Thib, TPR, Cake, and Unk  (or throw Gordon in there somewhere).

They can autodraft and stuff.

Posted by Troy on Aug. 09 2014,08:16
< Kelvin Benjamin caught a 29 yard TD pass with his first catch of the preseason. >

Can't feel too smug, the other rookie WRs are ballin' too. < Brandin Cooks(for the Saints) looked good too. >



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 09 2014,09:58
Preseason means dick unless it results in an injury.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 09 2014,10:00

(TheCatt @ Aug. 09 2014,08:58)
QUOTE
Maybe we can have a Not caring division of: Paul, Thib, TPR, Cake, and Unk  (or throw Gordon in there somewhere).

They can autodraft and stuff.

We still got a couple weeks to throw something together, but it's looking more and more like pick 'em.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 09 2014,10:24

(TheCatt @ Aug. 09 2014,09:58)
QUOTE
Maybe we can have a Not caring division of: Paul, Thib, TPR, Cake, and Unk  (or throw Gordon in there somewhere).

They can autodraft and stuff.

That's not a bad idea. Except I'd rather we assign them names of people who wouldn't act all smug when their autopicked team won a game.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 09 2014,10:40
TPR: BBQ is Pork, Dammit
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 10 2014,10:16
Nope.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2014,10:36

(Leisher @ Aug. 09 2014,12:24)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Aug. 09 2014,09:58)
QUOTE
Maybe we can have a Not caring division of: Paul, Thib, TPR, Cake, and Unk  (or throw Gordon in there somewhere).

They can autodraft and stuff.

That's not a bad idea. Except I'd rather we assign them names of people who wouldn't act all smug when their autopicked team won a game.

Autodraft?  Christ.  What's the point?  You going to have them randomly drop and pick up players every week?



Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 10 2014,17:16
We could just do a 5 person league and have 5 randoms, since no one here has any friends. :\
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2014,18:44
< Half the Browns > subconsciously want their team to fail.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 11 2014,13:04

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 13 2014,12:26
A friend of mine is doing a league.  Is anyone interested in joining that if he has extra spots?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 13 2014,16:00

(TheCatt @ Aug. 13 2014,14:26)
QUOTE
A friend of mine is doing a league.  Is anyone interested in joining that if he has extra spots?

Aye.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 14 2014,10:03
< http://saltshakernews.com/2014....-reason >

I believe this would probably be the outcome if the Browns ever did make it to the Super Bowl.  HAHAHA

by the way.. how do you embed those youtube videos in the posts? i can't seem to figure that out

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 14 2014,10:26
Click Embed (next to Share).  Make sure Use old embed code is checked.  Cuz this forum ancient, yo.




Posted by Stranger on Aug. 14 2014,11:07
Cool! thanks, had to test it out






Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 18 2014,18:34
This game is awful.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 18 2014,18:39
Agreed! 4 completions total for Browns QBs. This offense looks god awful, looks like another 5-11 season.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 18 2014,18:42
RG3 looked good when he was in. Skins will be alright this year. If it wasn't for the goal line stand Skins would be dominating. Other than that, way too many flags. Refs are calling everything this year!
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 18 2014,18:52
If this is Manziel's audition, dude needs to learn to hit his targets.  I think I saw 1 pass of his dropped, at least 3 that were just misses.

Hoyer had 3 on targets that the receivers either dropped, or couldn't haul in.

The Ds are looking better than O on both sides.  Sadly not saying much.  

Desean looks like a nice addition so far.

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 18 2014,19:11
And now The Buckeyes season is in jeopardy. Braxton miller might be out for the season. It never ends...

Oh well, at least we've got Lebron

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 18 2014,19:15
Well, at least I can feel good about our 8-0 streak in the preseason if we finish this one off!
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 18 2014,19:16

(Stranger @ Aug. 18 2014,22:11)
QUOTE
And now The Buckeyes season is in jeopardy. Braxton miller might be out for the season. It never ends...

Oh well, at least we've got Lebron

I heard he was extra skinny and couldn't run any more? :)
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 18 2014,19:37
Lol! I've seen that colt McCoy play before!
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 18 2014,20:08

(TheCatt @ Aug. 18 2014,22:16)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Aug. 18 2014,22:11)
QUOTE
And now The Buckeyes season is in jeopardy. Braxton miller might be out for the season. It never ends...

Oh well, at least we've got Lebron

I heard he was extra skinny and couldn't run any more? :)

Miller is a walking boo boo. Plus, he has a mediocre football IQ. I honestly think Meyer has given up on him and is looking towards the future.

Colt is 2/6 and both were for TDs. That guy's awesome!

And holy shit, did that just happen?

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 19 2014,07:39

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 19 2014,07:48
can that be my new forum profile pic?.. i love it!
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 19 2014,08:03
He's such a little bitch.

I do find him very interesting though. In a time when the NFL claims to be all about player safety you have this assclown running around with Justin Bieber, showing up late for practice, being photographed in men's rooms with rolled up $20s, flipping off opponents, and generally being a douchebag yet nobody thinks he needs some guidance and mentoring?

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 19 2014,08:28
White people will figure it out.
Posted by Troy on Aug. 19 2014,08:46
I've thought about taking to various message boards and comparing all this Manziel stuff to the negative things that were expected of Cam Newton when he came out.

But i'm not, because Cam is actually a responsible adult, and Manziel is not, they aren't comparable.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 19 2014,22:02
< Good opinion piece on what the Browns should do at QB. >
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 20 2014,05:48
< Steelers bringing back the beard. >

< Cleveland names their starter. >

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 20 2014,05:53
That was inevitable.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 21 2014,15:33
< Johnny Clipboard >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 22 2014,16:02
But he was such a bargain.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 25 2014,07:16
I have another league that needs a handful of people to join.  10 team max, 7 signed up.

Draft is Thursday night: 9pm ET

Here’s the link for settings:
               http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/1109377/settings
Each team will consist of following positions:
               QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

One of those WRs will be flexed to WR/RB

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 25 2014,07:20
< Sam Bradford > is actually < Phil Connors >.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 25 2014,07:20

(TheCatt @ Aug. 25 2014,09:16)
QUOTE
I have another league that needs a handful of people to join.  10 team max, 7 signed up.

Draft is Thursday night: 9pm ET

Here’s the link for settings:
               http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/1109377/settings
Each team will consist of following positions:
               QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

One of those WRs will be flexed to WR/RB

I'll check it.  Probably in.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 25 2014,07:59

(TheCatt @ Aug. 25 2014,10:16)
QUOTE
I have another league that needs a handful of people to join.  10 team max, 7 signed up.

Draft is Thursday night: 9pm ET

Here’s the link for settings:
               http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/1109377/settings
Each team will consist of following positions:
               QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

One of those WRs will be flexed to WR/RB

I would happily join, but that time might be tricky. Let me know that morning if you still need someone and I'll make it work.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 25 2014,08:06

(Malcolm @ Aug. 25 2014,10:20)
QUOTE
< Sam Bradford > is actually < Phil Connors >.

Cousins' value just went up - Hey Rams, can we get some of those 1st rd draft picks back?
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 25 2014,08:18
< I kind of think Theismann has a point about Cousins. >
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 25 2014,08:33
< Newton has cracked rib. >

Still not 100% recovered from the ankle thing either.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2014,07:26

(Malcolm @ Aug. 25 2014,09:20)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Aug. 25 2014,09:16)
QUOTE
I have another league that needs a handful of people to join.  10 team max, 7 signed up.

Draft is Thursday night: 9pm ET

Here’s the link for settings:
               http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/1109377/settings
Each team will consist of following positions:
               QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

One of those WRs will be flexed to WR/RB

I'll check it.  Probably in.

Need an invite, I think.

cyril_st_michael@yahoo.com

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2014,07:51
We want to bring back the pick 'ems?  Two pools, one spread, one no spread?
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 26 2014,08:08

(Malcolm @ Aug. 26 2014,10:51)
QUOTE
We want to bring back the pick 'ems?  Two pools, one spread, one no spread?

Sure, let's do it.

As for the fantasy, let me confirm, will let you know shortly.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2014,08:15
Pick 'em info:

< http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/pickem >

Group ID# 31422
DTMan no spread
+dTm4N

Group ID# 31423
DTMan spread
+dTm4N



Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 26 2014,08:30
TPR, Gordon - Everyone can sign up for these.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2014,06:47

(TheCatt @ Aug. 26 2014,10:08)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Aug. 26 2014,10:51)
QUOTE
We want to bring back the pick 'ems?  Two pools, one spread, one no spread?

Sure, let's do it.

As for the fantasy, let me confirm, will let you know shortly.

The link to apply for catt's league...

< http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/1109377/applytojoin >

My app's in.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2014,06:50
< Seahawks fined > for excessive contact.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 27 2014,08:17
Nice to see Carroll still cheats.

Ethics!

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 27 2014,09:44
Buh Bye Gordon, see you next year... Maybe...
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 27 2014,09:51

(Malcolm @ Aug. 27 2014,09:47)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Aug. 26 2014,10:08)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Aug. 26 2014,10:51)
QUOTE
We want to bring back the pick 'ems?  Two pools, one spread, one no spread?

Sure, let's do it.

As for the fantasy, let me confirm, will let you know shortly.

The link to apply for catt's league...

My app's in.

That one ended up full.  The other one... people better get their shit together.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2014,10:06
Other one?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2014,10:15
< Josh Gordon >: confirmed.  1 year.  I'm ecstatic about this only because the evil incarnate dude in my league drafted him.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 27 2014,10:51

(Malcolm @ Aug. 27 2014,13:06)
QUOTE
Other one?

Yeah, what other one?

QUOTE
I'm ecstatic about this only because the evil incarnate dude in my league drafted him.


Why would you be happy about one of your players being suspended? Do you get a supplemental draft pick or something?

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 27 2014,10:57
Lol
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 27 2014,10:57
Even without Gordon the Browns will still house the Steelers week one!!

We've already taken one starting QB out for the year, so look out Big Ben.. Cleveland might have to resort to dirty tatics.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 27 2014,11:13
Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh...



This never gets old.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2014,11:18
QUOTE
Why would you be happy about one of your players being suspended? Do you get a supplemental draft pick or something?

If you ask who is the most hated dude in that FF league is, the answer is universally not me.  I'm infamous for other reasons.  I was almost betting on Josh's suspension getting overturned specifically because Mr. Evil spent $8 on him at auction.

QUOTE
We've already taken one starting QB out for the year

Who?  Bradford?

QUOTE
Twenty quarterbacks have been picked first overall in Common Draft Era (since 1967) and only JaMarcus Russell and Alex Smith will have played fewer games in their first five years in the league than Sam Bradford.

That's stretching the definition of "starter."



Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 27 2014,11:28

(Leisher @ Aug. 27 2014,14:13)
QUOTE
Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh...
...
This never gets old.

Stop living in the past, man.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 28 2014,06:11
QUOTE
If you ask who is the most hated dude in that FF league is, the answer is universally not me.


Lighten up Francis!

QUOTE
Stop living in the past, man.


Well, if we want to see whose team has won a Super Bowl most recently...   :p

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 28 2014,06:30

(Leisher @ Aug. 28 2014,09:11)
QUOTE
Well, if we want to see whose team has won a Super Bowl most recently...   :p

Then I'll just claim to he a Seahawks fan.

12th man, baby!

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2014,11:10

(Leisher @ Aug. 25 2014,10:18)
QUOTE
< I kind of think Theismann has a point about Cousins. >

< Someone else > agrees.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2014,12:33
< Goddell figures > out that violence towards women should be taken more seriously than recreational drug use.  I bet the confirmation on Gordon's suspension spurred this.

If I had some photoshop available to me, I'd put an image of Rice next to Gordon with the caption, "NFL Math: Bitches < blunts."

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 28 2014,12:54
I'm betting that if an investigation were held, them working on that policy is why the Gordon penalty took so long to announce.
Posted by Troy on Aug. 28 2014,13:14

(Malcolm @ Aug. 28 2014,12:33)
QUOTE
< Goddell figures > out that violence towards women should be taken more seriously than recreational drug use.  I bet the confirmation on Gordon's suspension spurred this.

If I had some photoshop available to me, I'd put an image of Rice next to Gordon with the caption, "NFL Math: Bitches < blunts."

Here ya go buddy:




Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2014,13:27
Now all I need to do is convince a few Cleveland fans to wear this on a t-shirt at some home games...
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 28 2014,13:49
That is fantastic!! I'd wear it right now! someone make up that shirt and i'll buy it
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2014,14:36
I know a couple dudes that work at printing joints.  One owns a place that specializes in t-shirts.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2014,14:44
Video parody: Josh Gordon, with some time off coming up, could guest star.  Attach some weave or a wig to a joint, have him beat the shit out of it.  He could claim it as an anti-drug PSA.


Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2014,15:50
Minus the logo & faces, plus a bit of rewording, that is completely t-shirtable.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 28 2014,19:09
First fantasy league: Keeper league.  I'm drafting 3rd, preset Giovanni Bernard as #1 pick.

I show up two minutes late.  It autodrafted a fucking LB for me, because I didn't have one selected in my keeper lineup.  Guy #4 picks up Giovanni.

2nd fantasy league: I'm sick today, and forget.  Show up 55 minutes later.  Autodraft Dez Bryant #1, and Giovanni Bernard #2.  Then Victor Cruz.  Fuck me,.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2014,19:26
QUOTE
It autodrafted a fucking LB for me, because I didn't have one selected in my keeper lineup.

We talk about IDP every now and again, but the extra draft time is a dealbreaker.

QUOTE
Autodraft Dez Bryant #1, and Giovanni Bernard #2.

Ouch.

QUOTE
Victor Cruz

He wouldn't be so bad as a WR2 with a real QB throwing to him.  Then again, I paid $10 for Eric Decker.

First keeper draft, $100 total + PPR (don't think I paid more than $15 for any player, if that), * = keeper :

QB:
Wilson* ... cheap, want to see what a healthy Percy does.
Newton ... cheap, solid backup, he will find someone to throw to, I just don't know the fuck who

RB:
Lynch* ... solid lead dog.
Woodhead* ... PPR league gold.
Sproles ... last season, Woodhead was the poor man's Sproles.  I think Darren will be the poor man's Woodhead this year.
Steve Jackson ... cheap, took a gamble.
Bradshaw ... has produced, and will continue to produce, more than Vick Ballard and T-Bitch combined.

WR:
Decker ... yeah, Jets.  Yeah, Geno Smith.  Fantasy != reality.  He is literally the only fucking target on that team.  Josh Gordon was the leading receiver with Weeden + Hoyer + Campbell throwing to him last year.  Geno Smith has a better team than Jason Campbell.
Crabtree ... yeah, Kaep can't throw for shit but the Niners know their offense needs to start lighting it up and that doesn't happen until they can threaten the pass.  Target Numero Uno.  Better than Old Man Boldin and Vernon Davis.
Torrey Smith ... the man in Baltimore.  Yeah, Flaccid Flacco.  WR1 is WR1.
Rueben Randle ... don't know what I was thinking.
Marquise Lee ... someone has to step up in Buffalo.  Rolling the dice.

TE:
Gronk* ... spin the injury wheel.
Clay ... insurance

One more draft on the 2nd, $250 total + standard.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 29 2014,09:22
< More NFL math >.
QUOTE
A repeat offender, Simpson will now serve his second suspension in three years. His previous ban resulted from a felony conviction for mailing two pounds of marijuana to his Kentucky home. The latest suspension stems from a DUI arrest last November.

That plus his most recent arrest catapults him one week ahead of Ray Rice.  As an aside ... 2 pounds of bud.  That should keep anyone but the hardcore smokees just fine for a couple years if not more.  This means it's better to be caught shipping sizable quantities than smoking tiny amounts.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 29 2014,11:01
Reminder: first NFL games next week.  Sign up for pick 'ems.

< With spread >.
< Without >.

Thus far it's catt and myself.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 29 2014,13:30
< Aldon Smith >: 9 games.
QUOTE
Smith, 24, pleaded no contest in May to three felony charges of possessing illegal assault rifles and misdemeanor DUI, stemming from separate incidents in 2012 and 2013. He was sentenced last month to 235 hours of community service and three years of probation and will spend 11 Mondays on a sheriff's work crew.

Smith also was arrested in April after an incident at Los Angeles International Airport after he allegedly made a bomb threat, but no criminal charges were brought.

Again, NFL Math: automatic weapons < blunts.

Also, < Law Firm cut >.  Someone will sign his old ass.



Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 30 2014,13:57
< Sam cut >

Little odd here:
QUOTE
Fisher said the talked one-one-one with all the players who were released except Sam, who decided to go out of town. He said he will talk to him in person on Sunday.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2014,17:24
Speaking of people who've been cut:

Someone in my keeper PPR league just dropped Dwayne Bowe.  I've got Marquise Lee on my bench.  I can't think of a good reason to pick up Dwayne for a buck and drop Marquise.  He's been that bad.

Also, I'm hoping Miles Austin doesn't suck this year.  Some wideout in Toilet-ville has to step up, so I took a chance and dropped Rueben Randle for him.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2014,09:27
Keeper PPR league: dude swaps Ladarius Green for Tony Gonzo.  Commish informs him of the retirement issue.  A day and a dollar later, swap reversed.  If I didn't have Gronk and Clay, I might've vultured Green.
Posted by unkbill on Sep. 01 2014,17:10

(Malcolm @ Aug. 29 2014,11:01)
QUOTE
Reminder: first NFL games next week.  Sign up for pick 'ems.

< With spread >.
< Without >.

Thus far it's catt and myself.

Those links didn't get me anywhere. But I looked back a page and I think applied to the right one. Will check back tomorrow.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2014,07:16
Today in the NFL...
QUOTE
Sam cut

< Offer > from the Hoser Football League.

< Raiders are officially > screwed this year, maybe worse than the Rams.

< For Stranger >.  Polamalu compares Johnny Cokehead to Tim Tebow.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 02 2014,11:02
I'm undecided on the pick 'em leagues.

Even when I wasn't in two fantasy leagues I'd forget about them. Plus, it's not as interesting as fantasy.

I find it sad, and humorous because we're mainly geeks, that we can't put together an 8 man fantasy league.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2014,15:39
QUOTE
I'm undecided on the pick 'em leagues.

C'mon man, unk went to the trouble of joining.  So can you.

QUOTE
Plus, it's not as interesting as fantasy.

Yeah, you also aren't hitting the waiver wire every other hour.

QUOTE
...we can't put together an 8 man fantasy league.

Boooooooooooooring as fuck.  The Citizen Kane of FF.  May as well throw dice or draw lots if you've got 8 reasonably intelligent dudes.  Or maybe if someone gets especially decimated by the injury daemons.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2014,15:54
< DWI > < Blunts.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2014,18:27
< Kill a dude > < blunts.
Posted by unkbill on Sep. 02 2014,18:29
Um, I am not in yet. Links still don't work. I think the commissioner of the league has to invite me or something.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2014,19:11
League or pick 'ems?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2014,07:29
Draft #2 results, auction, $250 budget, standard scoring:

DeMarco Murray, Dal RB          $60
Alfred Morris, Wsh RB   $37
Rob Gronkowski, NE TE   $25
Victor Cruz, NYG WR   $16
Andre Johnson, Hou WR   $39
Steven Jackson, Atl RB          $16
Andrew Luck, Ind QB   $19
Fred Jackson, Buf RB   $6
Mike Wallace, Mia WR   $8
Danny Amendola, NE WR   $2
Jordan Reed, Wsh TE   $7 ... like, but has the same bye as Gronk, dropping for Charles Clay
Terrance Williams, Dal WR   $3 ... dropping for Miles Austin
Ben Roethlisberger, Pit QB   $3
Rams D/ST D/ST          $1
Justin Tucker, Bal K   $4 ... last player, wanted to be the first to leave

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2014,08:48
< Jerry Jones > is still insane.
Posted by unkbill on Sep. 03 2014,10:15

(Malcolm @ Sep. 02 2014,19:11)
QUOTE
League or pick 'ems?

Wanted in the pick ums
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 03 2014,11:18
WHY YOUR TEAM SUCKS!!

Steelers:
< http://deadspin.com/why-you....5613194 >

Vikings:
< http://deadspin.com/why-you....7870556 >

Redskins:
< http://deadspin.com/why-you....9678313 >

Panthers:
< http://deadspin.com/why-you....0050552 >

Browns:
< http://deadspin.com/why-you....6915245 >

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 03 2014,12:47
QUOTE
The offensive line is just Trent Williams and four cardboard cutouts of fat people.

LOL

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2014,18:10
Some of those had brilliant one-liners.

QUOTE
Your backup quarterback is Matt Flynn, who scans the field for Jordy Nelson like a man who can't find his car in a parking lot.


QUOTE
Kuhn. Fucking Kuhn. He's still there! What, did they give him a lifetime contract or something? Can't he die? At least Wes Welker is a productive whiteboy favorite. But the fucking Kuhn lumbers for a two-yard gain the stadium erupts as if locals have just been told that one Latino family has decided to move out of town.


QUOTE
I once went to a game at Lambeau and at the tailgate, there was a guy wearing a scarf made from his dead dog.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2014,08:49
Because I can't make this up: < Josh Gordon > selling used cars for a living.  I'm sure Manziel will be washing them soon.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2014,09:23
Me v Catt in the season opener.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 04 2014,12:27
< Cortana is picking the games. >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 04 2014,13:48
< Bold predictions. >
QUOTE

Drew Brees will break Peyton Manning's yardage record, and 6,000 is possible
Robert Griffin III will be a top 10 quarterback
The Ravens will have offensive problems
Peyton Manning won’t throw 50 touchdowns again … or 40, either
The Broncos will beat the Seahawks in Seattle
Trent Richardson will be a 1,000-yard back
Cam Newton's contract extension talks will get ugly
Calvin Johnson won't be the best receiver in his division. It won't be Jordy Nelson or Brandon Marshall, either [Alshon Jeffery]
Josh Gordon will play this season
The NFL will announce the Raiders are moving back to Los Angeles


Sure hope he's right about RG3.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 04 2014,14:01

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2014,16:48)
QUOTE
< Bold predictions. >
QUOTE

Drew Brees will break Peyton Manning's yardage record, and 6,000 is possible
Robert Griffin III will be a top 10 quarterback
The Ravens will have offensive problems
Peyton Manning won’t throw 50 touchdowns again … or 40, either
The Broncos will beat the Seahawks in Seattle
Trent Richardson will be a 1,000-yard back
Cam Newton's contract extension talks will get ugly
Calvin Johnson won't be the best receiver in his division. It won't be Jordy Nelson or Brandon Marshall, either [Alshon Jeffery]
Josh Gordon will play this season
The NFL will announce the Raiders are moving back to Los Angeles


Sure hope he's right about RG3.

I hope so as he's on my fantasy team.
Not from what I've seen.
Duh.
He is almost 40...
I can see that. Winning the unimportant one.
Doubt it.
Probably. I mean if Auburn paid him 800k for one year...
No.
Clearly wrong.
It does make sense.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2014,14:50

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2014,15:48)
QUOTE
< Bold predictions. >
QUOTE

Drew Brees will break Peyton Manning's yardage record, and 6,000 is possible
Robert Griffin III will be a top 10 quarterback
The Ravens will have offensive problems
Peyton Manning won’t throw 50 touchdowns again … or 40, either
The Broncos will beat the Seahawks in Seattle
Trent Richardson will be a 1,000-yard back
Cam Newton's contract extension talks will get ugly
Calvin Johnson won't be the best receiver in his division. It won't be Jordy Nelson or Brandon Marshall, either [Alshon Jeffery]
Josh Gordon will play this season
The NFL will announce the Raiders are moving back to Los Angeles


Sure hope he's right about RG3.

No.
Might not even be top 20.
Given since last season.
No.
Probably
T-Bitch will have problems breaking 300 yards.
Obvious.
Insane.
On more drugs than the entirety of the crowd at a Phish show or alternatively, Josh Gordon.
The Raiders need to move between Oakland and LA every few years so the local populace can take a break, have a drink, and forget about having their name attached to a team that hasn't competed since Rich Ganon's twilight days.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 05 2014,04:04

(Malcolm @ Sep. 04 2014,12:23)
QUOTE
Me v Catt in the season opener.

Good start!
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2014,07:25
I started Lynch + Wilson in the PPR keeper league.  45 points for me.  17.3 for his Jordy Nelson.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 05 2014,07:28
In my FF (Friends and Family) league I went up against Wilson, but I offset it slightly as my defense is Seattle's. I'm down 19-2 although I'm projected to put up 99, while he's projected for a total of 98.

We'll see.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2014,07:57
QUOTE
I know a lot of people think Richard Sherman is crazy. Very talented athlete, engaging personality, but the kind of crazy that makes me as amazed as you longtime readers that he's in fact not one of the women I used to date.  Did you see the interview he did recently with NBC's Josh Elliott? If you missed it, here's what he said.

"When the fantasy football numbers need to be what they need to be, then the league needs to do what it needs to do to get it done, y'know, and this is a money-driven league. So whatever is gonna sell the tickets is gonna sell the tickets."

< Wow >.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 05 2014,08:55
Fantasy helps drive those TV ratings, and that's serious money.
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 05 2014,13:09

(Leisher @ Sep. 04 2014,17:01)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2014,16:48)
QUOTE
< Bold predictions. >
QUOTE

Drew Brees will break Peyton Manning's yardage record, and 6,000 is possible
Robert Griffin III will be a top 10 quarterback
The Ravens will have offensive problems
Peyton Manning won’t throw 50 touchdowns again … or 40, either
The Broncos will beat the Seahawks in Seattle
Trent Richardson will be a 1,000-yard back
Cam Newton's contract extension talks will get ugly
Calvin Johnson won't be the best receiver in his division. It won't be Jordy Nelson or Brandon Marshall, either [Alshon Jeffery]
Josh Gordon will play this season
The NFL will announce the Raiders are moving back to Los Angeles


Sure hope he's right about RG3.

I hope so as he's on my fantasy team.
Not from what I've seen.
Duh.
He is almost 40...
I can see that. Winning the unimportant one.
Doubt it.
Probably. I mean if Auburn paid him 800k for one year...
No.
Clearly wrong.
It does make sense.

Not so fast my friend!! That little part about Gordon playing is not out of the question. WOW!

< http://espn.go.com/nfl....ensions >

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 05 2014,13:12
This, I find insane:
QUOTE
Two star receivers, Wes Welker of the Denver Broncos and Josh Gordon of the Cleveland Browns, are under suspension for drug violations -- Welker for four games for amphetamines and Gordon for all of the 2014 season for another positive marijuana test.

Wes Welker - CHEATING
Josh Gordon - Getting high

PEDs and drugs should not be treated the same

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2014,13:27
QUOTE
Not so fast my friend!! That little part about Gordon playing is not out of the question. WOW!

Not a fucking prayer.  There's a higher chance of the Ravens moving back, giving Cleveland another team to drag down into mediocrity.

QUOTE
PEDs and drugs should not be treated the same

The only dude who might see bud as performance enhancing is Lynch, and only because of the Skittles thing.

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 05 2014,13:41

(Malcolm @ Sep. 05 2014,16:27)
QUOTE
Not a fucking prayer.  

We'll see.. One can only hope
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 05 2014,14:00

(Stranger @ Sep. 05 2014,16:41)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 05 2014,16:27)
QUOTE
Not a fucking prayer.  

We'll see.. One can only hope

You have some hope, but I agree with Malcolm.

It wouldn't make sense for the NFL to back off their condemnation of drugs, PED or otherwise.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2014,15:47
I'm going to laugh so hard when Johnny Benchwarmer, aka BBB (Bieber's Butt Buddy), gets nailed for the same thing Welker did or maybe something more thought-provoking.

"When asked why he took the popper and inhaled it, Manziel could only reply, 'Because it was there.'"



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 05 2014,16:49
< NFL Mean Tweets >
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 05 2014,16:56
Ike Taylor's was good.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2014,18:19
Where's Mike Shanahan reading his?  If I got to vote on the quote, I'd chip in to a Kickstarter for that.  The possibilities are endless.


Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2014,10:57
"Is this great defense, or awful offense?"

Commentator during Redskins / Houston game.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2014,10:57
And wtf is happening to the Eagles?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2014,10:58
That dude who sniped Jordan Reed from me in the draft must be sad.

I think Griffin has forgotten how to run.  He can't even move in the backfield.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2014,11:46

(TheCatt @ Sep. 07 2014,12:58)
QUOTE
That dude who sniped Jordan Reed from me in the draft must be sad.

I think Griffin has forgotten how to run.  He can't even move in the backfield.

Goddamnit, Reed.  I was going to run with Cameron the majority of the season but it looks like the revolving door of Washington TEs may continue.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2014,13:09
And... the Redskins suck.
Jaguars still suck.
Happy to see the Patriots lose.

Someone get Stranger on suicide watch.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2014,13:28
< Alex Smith celebrates extension by showing up and not caring what team he throws the ball to. >
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 07 2014,15:31
The Browns strategy of playing so badly in the first half that you lull your opponents to sleep almost worked.

It worked well enough to cost me $5 because the Steelers didn't cover.

After Saturday, I had the rope hanging from the ceiling and was ready to kick out the chair until Suisham made that last second field goal.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2014,15:32
Fucking Crabtree.  And I started the wrong Smith in Baltimore.  And fucking Rams.  Come the hell on.  Hill's gone, too?  You're down to some dude I've never heard of with Case Keenum backing him up.  Team should probably take out a $10M injury policy on Zac Stacy so they can buy another RB when the football gods tear into their ground game.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2014,16:40
"Cowboys" Stadium


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2014,17:46
Leagues (first two for cash), Week 1:

Keeper PPR: Torrey Smith and Michael Crabtree killed me.  Steve Jackson didn't help either.  Going against Greg Olsen sucked.

Non-keeper standard: Dumb-ass playing against me started Newton.  DeMarco did good for me but I'm stomping because the other team's striking out all over the place with the exception of CJ.

Catt league: A.J. Green, Cordy Patterson, and Tony Brown gave me the edge on Lynch and Brees.  Unless the rookie Detroit TE is the new Gonzo, I think I win.  Same div, catt, so we'll do this dance again before too long.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 07 2014,20:59
Everybody was kung fu fighting!

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2014,05:48
< Ray Rice is a massive piece of shit. >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,06:10

(Malcolm @ Sep. 07 2014,13:46)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 07 2014,12:58)
QUOTE
That dude who sniped Jordan Reed from me in the draft must be sad.

I think Griffin has forgotten how to run.  He can't even move in the backfield.

Goddamnit, Reed.  I was going to run with Cameron the majority of the season but it looks like the revolving door of Washington TEs may continue.

Or Cameron could get hurt, too.  Wtf-ever.  Fucking can't believe it.  The only league I don't have Gronk is where my TE injury problems are.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,07:53

(Leisher @ Sep. 08 2014,07:48)
QUOTE
< Ray Rice is a massive piece of shit. >

Ideas for Ray Rice's entrance music when the suspension wears off:

1) Mama Said Knock You Out
2) Smack My Bitch Up
3) Hurts So Good
4) Hit Me with Your Best Shot
5) Tubthumping ("I get knocked down but I get up again...")

Alternatively...

Posted by Troy on Sep. 08 2014,08:07
< Oh my god I love Kelvin >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,08:30
Very pissed someone vultured him from me in keeper PPR.  Thought he was a throwaway rookie WR I could sneak for $1 in the final rounds.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 08 2014,08:52
Missed him in a "new" FF league. Snagged him right after I got Watkins in my big money Keeper league. Shoulda swapped the two, in retrospect.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2014,08:55
I got him in our keeper league.  If only I had a QB. :(
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,09:01
I still got Marquise Lee, who was only missing a score for a solid day.  Still hating myself for dealing Lev Bell last season.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2014,09:25

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,09:36
I'm calling AJ Green and Tony Brown the best 1-2 WR combo in the catt league.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2014,11:30
< Ravens cut Rice. >

His career is probably over, especially since he wasn't exactly tearing it up on the field.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,11:31
Glad I traded him last year.  And Welker.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2014,11:35
Well, definitely the right thing to do.  But man my keeper team is in the shitter.  (Not particularly due to this, but it doesn't help)
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2014,11:52
They updated that article because now the NFL has banned him indefinitely too.

Bye Bye Ray Rice.

Meanwhile, can someone ask the NFL why it was only two games and now it's indefinite?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,12:05
Plenty of teams need a RB, but I wonder who wants the PR hit?
Posted by Vince on Sep. 08 2014,14:26
Needs to be a lifetime ban.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,17:46

(Stranger @ Sep. 05 2014,15:41)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 05 2014,16:27)
QUOTE
Not a fucking prayer.  

We'll see.. One can only hope

NFLPA reps voting tomorrow on drug policy.  Let's see how much the universe hates Cleveland.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2014,19:15
QBs I have in my keeper league:
E Manning
J McCown
EJ Manual
Brian Hoyer
Mike Glennon

sigh.

I also have Ray Rice.  And Jordan Reed.  And Dwayne Bowe.  And Marvin Jones.  

And I missed the first round of the draft, so I got a LB on auto when I wanted to get Gio Bernard.

My fantasy keeper season is as over as the Redskins'

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,19:52
QUOTE
QBs I have in my keeper league:
E Manning
J McCown
EJ Manual
Brian Hoyer
Mike Glennon

Please tell me that's a 2-QB league.

Hoyer's worth a flyer.  Glennon's looking more and more like a lost cause.

I need to dig up some PPR WRs.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,19:53
Thoughts on Eli Manning:

The Giants must be keeping around Eli Manning in the hopes he has some Pokemon-like ability to evolve into Peyton.  

Opposing secondaries are requesting life-sized posters of him to jack off to.

What's the difference between a Ray Rice punch and an Eli Manning interception?  We've only got film of Ray throwing one punch.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2014,19:59

And on the back of the t-shirt:

... unless TMZ gets the security footage; then you're fucked.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 09 2014,06:26
QUOTE
Opposing secondaries are requesting life-sized posters of him to jack off to.


That's funny.

I routed my opponent in my work fantasy league putting up 148 to his 90.

For my F&F league I only scored 66 points and he had Victor Cruz and Larry Fitzgerald going Monday. By some miracle, I won 66-65. He also started Doug Martin with got 0 points. 9 yards on 9 carries! Had Doug gotten one more yard we would have tied and he would have won with bench points.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2014,09:30
< Wife defends Ray >.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 09 2014,09:55
So what's her message? It's ok to smack your lady around?

Are you seriously condemning the public for reacting negatively to that video? It's OUR fault?

How about instead of taking us to task, you instead explain the thought process behind marrying a guy who knocked you out, spit on you, and then stood around your unconscious body without any concern?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2014,11:28
QUOTE
"To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass off for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels.

I'll read between the lines and go with, "I took a right hook and the motherfucker doesn't even have a steady income anymore."

Posted by Troy on Sep. 09 2014,11:50
*left jab

e: and also gets millions in guaranteed salary for the next two years, playing or not



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 10 2014,06:13
In case you were unclear, < Floyd Mayweather wants you to know that he's a douchebag. >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2014,09:22
If the < Bills are worth > $1 Billion, > imagine what an NFL franchise would be worth.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2014,09:32
< Wtf, NFL? >
QUOTE
"I don't know how TMZ or any other website gets their information," said Goodell, when asked why the NFL didn't have its own copy of the tape. "We are particularly reliant on law enforcement. That's the most reliable, it's the most credible and we don't seek to get that information from sources that are not credible."

Yeah.  I must have missed the part where law enforcement officials scoured the four corners of the earth for this tape and submitted it.  Surely there's a good reason.
QUOTE
Paul Loriquet, a spokesperson for the New Jersey Attorney General's Office, confirmed to NFL Media on Tuesday, "It's grand jury material. It would have been improper -- in fact, illegal -- for the Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office to provide (the video) to an outside/private/non law-enforcement entity."

So if they law had its way, nobody would have seen that vid until fuck knows how long.

< Ray speaks >.
QUOTE
"I have to be strong for my wife," Rice said...

Write your own punchline.



Posted by Troy on Sep. 10 2014,09:53
Malcom, I think your art direction and my graphic production can take at least 3.255% of the credit for Ray's cut + new suspension.

Congrats!



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 10 2014,10:10

(TheCatt @ Sep. 10 2014,12:22)
QUOTE
If the < Bills are worth > $1 Billion, > imagine what an NFL franchise would be worth.

Ha!
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 10 2014,10:39
I think Ray Rice is a miserable piece of shit for the way he treated his wife. I'm more disgusted by how he acted after hitting her because he showed no concern or remorse.

That being said, < the NOW needs to shut the fuck up >.

Sorry ladies, but at the end of the day, this is sports. The NFL banning Rice is completely voluntary. If they wanted to, they could simply ignore it. There are no criminal charges pending against him, and his wife stands by him. So for the law and the parties involved, the incident is over. Yet the NFL still acted.

Accept the fact that they publicly acknowledged they got the punishment wrong the first time. Accept the fact that they're doing something despite not really needing to do anything. Accept the fact that by continuing to attack the guy who is punishing a woman abuser and not the abuser himself you're coming off like bitches.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2014,10:43

(Troy @ Sep. 10 2014,11:53)
QUOTE
Malcom, I think your art direction and my graphic production can take at least 3.255% of the credit for Ray's cut + new suspension.

Congrats!

Kind of annoyed we missed the t-shirt window.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 10 2014,14:31
QUOTE
"The NFL has lost its way. It doesn't have a Ray Rice problem; it has a violence against women problem," O'Neill said in a statement. "... The only workable solution is for Roger Goodell to resign and for his successor to appoint an independent investigator with full authority to gather factual data about domestic violence, dating violence, sexual assault and stalking within the NFL community and to recommend real and lasting reforms."


This is now the only story ESPN is reporting.

Again, why is it the NFL's responsibility to punish players for off field stuff? How does this affect his play?

I'm not being callous, but who the fuck is Terry O'Neil to state that "The only workable solution is for Roger Goodell to resign..." Why? What the fuck does that resolve?

I truly think Goodell is in danger of losing his job over this, and Ray Rice is done done. Not even an arena football team would touch this asshole.

But at the end of the day, what affect does this have on anything? Why role do we and Terry O'Neil expect the NFL to play in stopping domestic violence? It's not their job to stop players from being assholes because you can't. Let me remind you that what Rice did is already illegal. He stood to go to jail, you think an NFL punishment would be more of a deterrent?

Maybe the NFL can start educating players on this issue? They already do on money and that doesn't work...

In my mind there's no difference between scumbags like Al Sharpton and Terry O'Neil.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2014,17:17
Whoa.  ESPN now says a law enforcement official sent the vid to the NFL on April 9th.  He's got some voicemail from the NFL confirming the reception, as it were.  This just got far more interesting, if it's true.

< Link >.
QUOTE
The person said he was unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited, because he wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2014,20:08
Holy fuck.  This exploded.  The Panthers owner is on TV in tears (which looks uncomfortably weird), Congressmen have weighed in (because they have nothing better to do than pander for more votes), Robert Mueller is being brought in to investigate the NFL's actions during this time.  You'll remember him one of the dudes that threatened to resign unless the FBI's wiretapping program got to step over that minor warrant rule.  Goddell's under some very real heat now.

Thoughts from various celebrities:

Olbermann: "...symbolically knocking out every woman in this country."  Journalists must have wet dreams about shit like this.

Malcolm: Ray Rice got enrolled in a treatment program to get his sentence waived.  This means I'm getting a harsher sentence than he's going to.  Fuck the legal system.  In what fucking backwards ass place does this occur?



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 10 2014,20:26
I saw that, but it's irrelevant to my argument. The NFL isn't a law enforcement agency and they set the punishments and investigations. Terry O'Neil and others like her have zero business sticking their noses into NFL business and chattering about how things should be run. It's a multi-billion a year business with no real competition despite constantly shooting themselves in the foot. They're doing just fine.

That being said, I wouldn't be stunned if the NFLPA gets forced to take a stance defending Rice against the punishment because of Goodell possibly seeing the tape, giving a punishment, and then later revising it. Not that any team will sign Rice. Even if he didn't do this he was washed up already.

As for Goodell, I wouldn't be shocked to see him get shit canned. Not because of NOW and other "put me in front of a camera PLEASE!" morons in the general public who probably don't even watch the NFL, but because he's got a terrible reputation with the players, and that was before this scandal.

Not to mention if advertisers start pulling their money. That's the interesting part.

Question: You run a business that's dependent upon advertising to get the word out. Your products are geared primarily towards men. You're currently advertising with the NFL. Their games are live, which means people are watching the ads. Their games are also insanely popular. Are you pulling your advertising because the league's commissioner might have lied about seeing a tape? Especially since that same commissioner just basically kicked the offender out of the league?

Tough call.

I think the most interesting silence so far has been from the Susan G. Komen foundation. The NFL goes all out for them and trying to fight breast cancer. You think they want to boycott the NFL because of this incident? How many fund raising dollars do they stand to lose by taking a stance against...

What exactly?

A private business dolling out punishment based on their own internally written policies and not actual law? And let me remind everyone that the policy that was in place called for the 2 games. The NEW policy that was written is 6 months for the first offense and a lifetime ban for the second. That's one hell of a deterrent. Goodell helped make that policy, but he needs to be fired?

Hey dumbfucks, did it ever occur to you that even if he saw the tape the old policy only allowed him to suspend the guy 2 games? That shit's written into contracts with the union!!!

Here's how I see it:
They knew they were going to take shit because they probably did see the tape and knew this guy should be gone. Their hands were tied though with the policy and the contract with the player's union. So they wrote the new policy, held off on Gordon's suspension for marijuana so it wouldn't look silly next to 2 games for knocking out your wife, got the new policy written, announced Gordon's suspension, then announced the new domestic abuse policy, and crossed their fingers the tape would never get out. That's when it did get out and they went with the ignorance defense. Who knew there was a voicemail saved of someone saying they got the tape? Now they're fighting in the court of public opinion.

I think the owners have two opinons:
1. Fire Goodell, but if my scenario is correct, he doesn't deserve it. Oh and hey, the NFL is slightly profitable at the moment and he has something to do with that.
2. Suspend Goodell for a period of time and fine him. Give the fine money to a charity about helping abused women. Strip him of responsibility in the punishment of players and appoint a three person panel consisting of a former coach, a player, and a lawyer to oversee player punishments going forward.

If anyone from the NFL is reading this, I just gave you everything you leave this scandal behind you. I wouldn't say no to some Steelers tickets...

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 10 2014,20:31
QUOTE
Malcolm: Ray Rice got enrolled in a treatment program to get his sentence waived.  This means I'm getting a harsher sentence than he's going to.


QUOTE
Rice had been charged with felony aggravated assault in the case, but in May he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being purged from his record. A prominent New Jersey lawmaker called Tuesday for that decision to be reviewed.


Rice went into that first trial with people looking out for him. They aren't looking out for him anymore.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2014,21:41
Reviewed != rescinded.  Still means he's got it at present.  Did John Law not know about this footage?  Other reports are that this is 3rd degree assault, something he still most likely gets probation for with no priors in his past.


Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 11 2014,19:11
< Lesean McCoy leaves very low tip >

Owner of the restaurant responds by posting the receipt.

Best part:
QUOTE

Actor Charlie Sheen, meanwhile, pledging to give $1,000 to the PYT waiter.

Sheen tweeted the following statement Wednesday on his Twitter account:

dear Tommy Up at PYT in Philly. Please tell Rob K I'm pledging 1000 dollars to him for the  tip debacle  just wanna help.
c
#NoJudgement

To that, McCoy responded, "That's cool. I'm happy he's finally doing something positive."



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2014,05:17
Didn't realize there was a game last night.

Apparently, neither did the Steelers.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 12 2014,06:16
I've been pretty sick with a head cold and watched the first half before going to bed. The game with an 8+ minute drive by the Steelers that ended with Justin Brown fumbling the ball away. Right there I knew they were going to lose. That kind of drive is a momentum setter, and a fumble was the worst possible outcome. You could see the wind come right out of their sails. Plus, that defense is putrid.

Short week, traveling, horrible officiating (so bad that Browns fans were on social media talking about how the Steelers are getting screwed), the whole Ray Rice thing uniting the Ravens locker room, and a defense that's been built on loyalty will make you suck.

This offseason should see some pretty huge changes for the Steelers. Troy, Ike, Heath, and Brett should all be gone for good. There's an outside shot Ben goes as well. This was their last shot with this core group, and it's clear the defense isn't good enough to win a title.

I expect them to go into shut down mode for the next two years as they wait for a LOT of dead money to come off the books. Their draft next year should be heavy on the secondary, a pass catching tight end, and a flyer on QB.



Posted by Troy on Sep. 12 2014,08:07
Our front 7 may have made Mike Mitchell look better than he really was. And those penalties, goddamn.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 12 2014,08:34
Truth. I was reading an insider report from training camp, and there's a rookie behind Mitchell that apparently outplayed him throughout camp.

The Steelers have done a lot of dumb deals/extensions over the past few years trying to keep this core together. I love the players for their contributions, but it's time to move on from them. They should have done it this year.

Start the rebuilding years now. Hell, I'd even be open to trading Ben away for draft picks. You telling me St. Louis wouldn't give us a bunch of picks right now for him?

Give me a year or two of sucking rather than 5 years of "ok, but not good enough to win the whole thing" teams.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2014,17:28
< AP indicted for spanking his son with a switch. >

Seriously?  His now-dead son?  The fuck is wrong with the world?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 12 2014,21:05
< Less than 1% of offenders get the deal Rice got. >

As for Peterson, I just grabbed his backup in my work league and will start him this week. My RBs there were in trouble this week.

In my F&F league I'm torn about grabbing him. My team is pretty solid and I don't really need him, but I'm #1 on the waiver list and what if this guy starts all year? That's another #1 RB... Do I put Romo on the waiver wire (I have Brees) and grab this guy just in case?



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2014,08:38
Well, just nevermind what I said above.
QUOTE

Imagine looking up at Adrian Peterson through the eyes of a four-year-old child.
The police report of what happened to one of Peterson's sons is sickening. The photos, which reportedly show week-old lacerations, are more so.
The act of what happened in Texas to that little boy, if true, is worst of all. Peterson has been indicted for whipping a child repeatedly with a tree branch. There were injuries all over his body, including on his scrotum. There is a warrant for Peterson's arrest

The original article made it sound like his now dead son, this makes it sound like a different son?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 13 2014,09:02
Holy shit...

That's disciplining your child and there's child abuse. If you're giving them a swat on their ass, it's discipline. If you're leaving marks and drawing blood, it's child abuse.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2014,09:28

(Leisher @ Sep. 13 2014,12:02)
QUOTE
Holy shit...

That's disciplining your child and there's child abuse. If you're giving them a swat on their ass, it's discipline. If you're leaving marks and drawing blood, it's child abuse.

Yeah, the original article made it sound like a severe spanking.  The latter articles make it sound much, much worse.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2014,12:42
Oh Redskins.  Redskins, Redskins, Redskins.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2014,13:06
How good bad is Detroit?
How bad good is Washington?
How good bad is Minnesota?
How good bad is Miami?
How suicidal happy is Stranger?

How injured is Washington?

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 15 2014,07:11
Its been 315 days since the last Browns win.. Needless to say, i feel great today!

Hoyer delivered without arguably his top 3 offensive threats (Gordon, Camron, Tate). Don't think we'll be seeing Johnny anytime soon, except maybe a play or two here and there.  And that will stop if Hoyer continues to prove himself.

Defense looked great against a top notch offense.  Jimmy Graham had another fantastic day, but  nobody stops that guys.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 15 2014,09:14
< APs back >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 15 2014,11:12
< RG3 out for a while... probably all season >
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 15 2014,11:59

(TheCatt @ Sep. 15 2014,12:14)
QUOTE
< APs back >

It's been an interesting contrast in public reaction to the Rice and AP scandals.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 15 2014,12:17
Here was one friend's reaction: (he's black, probably 20 years older than me)
QUOTE

Has the world gone completely mad? I'm so sick of knee jerk reactions. What in the sand hill is this Adrian Peterson crap about? This is so stupid. If this is the case they need to exhume my father, indict him and suspend him from his job. My pop use to make me go out and pick the switch to get beat with. If it was too small I got more "licks" as he called them. I think this is what's wrong with our society today, these little kids don't get punished at an early age, don't taste violence from a superior so they don't learn, actions create consequences and responsibility has accountability. And you don't bully the weak of either sex or animals. You young parents need to get up in the morning and beat your kids whether they did something or not, because they will sooner or later. If something lives in my house that I'm feeding and I can't discipline or do conflict resolution, it's got to go. Get the heck out and away from me and mine. So AP can't do his job because he spanked his kid a year ago? PEOPLE, PLEASE! Bring your kids to my house I'll beat em so I don't have to work.


I responded:
I felt the way you did last night... but more details have come out today. It wasn't just a severe spanking.

His response to that:
QUOTE
what else was it, time out in the corner and who brought all this to light, the mother?


That bolded part makes no sense to me.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 15 2014,14:08
Ha, no, i don't think whooping ass for the hell of it counts as deterrence. That's just being a dick.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 15 2014,14:18
It's funny, but he's knee jerking while complaining about knee jerking.

As I said before, there's discipline and there's abuse.

I get the switch thing. My dad, his brothers, and sisters all talk about being told to get in the yard and get the switch that was going to be used to beat their ass. However, you know what the subsequent discipline didn't bring? Cuts or blood.

It's because their parents knew to show restraint. They knew not to hit a kid with a bare ass or a thinly covered ass. They knew not to go overboard with the number of swats.

They knew the real punishment was the kid having to go get the switch.

During that time to kid reflects on their mistake. They're learning what they did has a consequence. It's also time for the parent to calm down, if needed.

The swat they'd get upon returning was the consequence. Softened by clothes to prevent injury, but still allow a sharp sting.

The funny thing is that consequence was only needed a handful of times before everyone knew what it meant if one of their parents mentioned a switch. The kids all learned not only from their own mistakes, but from watching others being punished.

That's discipline. It's not over the top, and it's not the hippie bullshit that so many people want you to think is effective, but isn't.

Has your friend seen the photos? That's not a swat or two on the rump. That was clearly someone going to town on a child's unprotected legs.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 15 2014,19:09
< Denver fans think Phil Sims is a dick. >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 15 2014,21:14
Bradshaw may be my sleeper steal of the year in all 3 leagues.  And hallelujah Sproles.  Got him, Woodhead, and Ahmad as RBs in keeper PPR.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2014,05:58
Sproles killed me in my F&F league last night.

Although had Toby Gerhardt played this week (he didn't score a single point) and Robbie Gould gotten more than 4 points, I would have been fine.

How crazy is it that during lunch today I'll be contemplating cutting a starting RB in the NFL because most teams' backup RBs score more points than he does?

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 16 2014,06:06
Whats even crazier is that you think of Toby Gerhardt as a starting RB! LOL!  

Not since the magical season of Peyton Hillis and maybe a couple good years from Mike Alstott has a white RB been effective in the NFL.. My advice, just drop his ass

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2014,06:50
He IS a starting RB, just for a really shitty team.

I need guys that get carries. Carries equal yards and sometimes TDs. Gerhardt's team is so bad they had to abandon the run in the 2nd quarter.

Looking at his schedule though, I might have no choice but to drop him.

Wait a second. I just noticed that due to Ray Rice's bad behavior, I have a starting RB on my bench in Bernard Pierce. Find the pine Toby!

My team is solid and I'm 1-1, but I haven't lit the scoreboard on fire. I could make some tweaks to my roster or sit on my #1 priority on the waiver wire and wait for someone to go down...

What to do?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2014,07:11
QUOTE
I have a starting RB on my bench in Bernard Pierce. Find the pine Toby!

Expect him and Forsett to tag team.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2014,07:41
He had 9 points last week. Toby had 0.

Toby's got 5 for the year. I'm not dropping him, but he can ride the pine for now.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2014,08:06

(Leisher @ Sep. 16 2014,09:41)
QUOTE
He had 9 points last week. Toby had 0.

Toby's got 5 for the year. I'm not dropping him, but he can ride the pine for now.

There are paraplegic teams that run the ball more effectively than Jacksonville.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 16 2014,08:18
Fuck Toby. Worst draft pick ever.

Jeremy Hill balled out though and saved me. Bengals run game victorious!



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2014,10:53

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2014,11:08

(Troy @ Sep. 16 2014,11:18)
QUOTE
Fuck Toby. Worst draft pick ever.

Jeremy Hill balled out though and saved me. Bengals run game victorious!

He is pretty bad so far.

Thankfully, my other RB is Gio Bernard.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2014,13:46
< Sponsors leaning on the NFL. >

More like sponsors are showing off to consumers.

The NFL should hire some PIs to see how those sponsors deal with domestic violence.

Seriously, what other workplace fires you for getting in a domestic.

Again, I'm not advocating that kind of violence in any way, shape, or form, but let's be real here. If your company's CFO got arrested tonight for an incident where they hit their wife, would they be fired? Would they even be suspended?



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2014,14:39

(Leisher @ Sep. 16 2014,15:46)
QUOTE
Again, I'm not advocating that kind of violence in any way, shape, or form, but let's be real here. If your company's CFO got arrested tonight for an incident where they hit their wife, would they be fired? Would they even be suspended?

Mine would.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 16 2014,18:44
Mine wouldn't.

The hypocrisy is just interesting.

A guy hits his wife or kid and he should lose his job. However, if a violent offender gets released from prison, we should give him a chance.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 16 2014,18:47
From FB:
QUOTE
Adrian Peterson should be in jail

I wanted to write back "Is that your answer to everything?  Put another black man in jail?"



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2014,04:38
< AP sitting out again >
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 17 2014,05:04
I didn't have an opinion about NFL in spite of it seeming to be full of and fully supportive of a bunch of thugs in its ranks, but now the President of Football is calling beer poison.

Fuck that guy.

< http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014....r-busch >

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 17 2014,06:31
Sadly, your football knowledge is so low, I have no idea if you're kidding or not when you call Foster the "President of Football".

But by all means, < try to argue that he's wrong >.

Ok, calling beer poison is a bit much, but he's right about them not exactly being a poster child for morality.

He wouldn't be wrong arguing about Pepsi either. Pop is poison. Zero health benefits. They're selling diabetes and obesity in a can.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2014,07:27
QUOTE
Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton, who spearheaded an effort to secure $477 million in public money to help build the team a new stadium, and Sen. Al Franken were among the many who called for the Vikings to reconsider their position.

Ah, that new stadium.

Now, onto AB InBev:

They don't make beer.  They make a beer-flavoured, watery, yellowish beverage probably mixed with Clydesdale urine to a 50:50 ratio.  But Arian goes over the line.
QUOTE
“Domestic violence and alcohol damn near synonymous.”

Yeah.  Synonymous.  Every time I go home from the bar, the night's not complete until I smack a bitch up.  The "shot and a jab" special goes for $5 at my local hangouts.  Booze lessens your inhibitions.  Sometimes to the point where you beat the shit out of someone physically instead of verbally.  It does not create what ain't already there.

Also, poison?  Fuck you.  < THIS > is poison.  < THIS > is arguably part of what enabled moderately sized societies to form.

The beer/liqour industry has fuckloads of things you can call them out for.

1) Still getting TV ad time while tobacco companies got the shaft.
2) Blatant marketing to and products specifically for teens.
3) Products that < lend themselves binge drinking >.
4) Products that mix booze and caffeine.

AB doesn't cause fetal alcohol syndrome by making beer.  They don't cause liver cirrhosis, either.  Arian needs to hold people accountable for their actions instead of the shit they imbibe.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 17 2014,07:58
You're just an enabler.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2014,08:02

(Leisher @ Sep. 17 2014,09:58)
QUOTE
You're just an enabler.

Goddamn right.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2014,09:11
< Gordon > down to 10 weeks.

EDIT: Most insane comment thus far:
QUOTE
A higher threshold for a positive marijuana test is a SHAME ... These guys could be an exemple for our kids ..C'mon!!!!!. SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoever you are, go fuck yourself.

Also, < Welker and Scandrick > back.



Posted by Troy on Sep. 17 2014,10:57
Reggie Bush joins the parade of NFL idiots:

QUOTE
I most definitely discipline my daughter. I have a 1-year-old daughter, and I discipline her. Obviously, every person is different, and I definitely will use my best judgement to discipline her depending on the situation and what happens. I definitely will try to obviously not leave bruises or anything like that on her, but I definitely will discipline her, harshly, depending on what the situation is.


FACEPALM



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2014,12:01

(Troy @ Sep. 17 2014,12:57)
QUOTE
Reggie Bush joins the parade of NFL idiots:

QUOTE
I most definitely discipline my daughter. I have a 1-year-old daughter, and I discipline her. Obviously, every person is different, and I definitely will use my best judgement to discipline her depending on the situation and what happens. I definitely will try to obviously not leave bruises or anything like that on her, but I definitely will discipline her, harshly, depending on what the situation is.


FACEPALM

< Another >.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2014,12:59
Yall racist.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 17 2014,18:16
< Dwyer is the latest NFL player to rough up his lady and child. >

Anyone noticing the trend?



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2014,18:25

(Leisher @ Sep. 17 2014,21:16)
QUOTE
< Dwyer is the latest NFL player to rough up his lady and child. >

Anyone noticing the trend?

Black people are violent?
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 17 2014,18:30
I was thinking they're all RBs (Rice, Peterson, Dwyer), but I'm not racist...  :p
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2014,19:28
How much time before a link is proposed between domestic violence and hits to the head which causes the NFL to foot the legal bill for all the players lest the NFLPA go apeshit?
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 18 2014,16:17

(Leisher @ Sep. 17 2014,09:31)
QUOTE
Sadly, your football knowledge is so low, I have no idea if you're kidding or not when you call Foster the "President of Football".

But by all means, < try to argue that he's wrong >.

Ok, calling beer poison is a bit much, but he's right about them not exactly being a poster child for morality.

He wouldn't be wrong arguing about Pepsi either. Pop is poison. Zero health benefits. They're selling diabetes and obesity in a can.

President, prime minister, whatever.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 18 2014,19:58
man this is the worst. The bucs are so bad
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 18 2014,21:51

(Troy @ Sep. 18 2014,21:58)
QUOTE
man this is the worst. The bucs are so bad

No.  < This > is the worst.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 19 2014,04:27
The shame is that we won't get a Bucs vs. Jags game.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2014,07:24

(TheCatt @ Sep. 19 2014,06:27)
QUOTE
The shame is that we won't get a Bucs vs. Jags game.

Currently, the Jags would destroy them.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 19 2014,11:24
< Roger > makes a wtf announcement.
QUOTE
“We have never had the funding needed to meet the demand for our services from those seeking help with domestic violence and dating abuse. Last year, because of this lack of resources, more than 77,000 calls went unanswered. Recent domestic violence incidents involving NFL players pushed the capacity of our organization to unprecedented levels,” said Katie Ray-Jones, President and CEO of the National Domestic Violence Hotline.

You're shitting me.  The NFL's first couple weeks have pushed your hotline past the tipping point?

QUOTE
Starting within the next 30 days, all league and team personnel -- including executives, coaches, players and staff -- will participate in education sessions on domestic violence and sexual assault.

Because they had no access to those things before.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,09:38
Ah injuries... here's my keeper league:

5 players out
3 Questionable
4 Probable.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2014,09:53

(TheCatt @ Sep. 21 2014,11:38)
QUOTE
Ah injuries... here's my keeper league:

5 players out
3 Questionable
4 Probable.

Injuries are so bad:

Keeper PPR has me keeping Jeremy Kerley on the bench in case Decker can't go.

Catt league has me starting Terrence West and Ahmad Bradshaw at RB.  On the bench?  Foster and Ball.

Posted by unkbill on Sep. 21 2014,10:04
They must be right. The pick um league is just to easy. Now I may have time to actually watch some football maybe I can sharpen up my points picks.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,11:21
Vinatieri is a stud.  Or so says the fact that he is my highest scorer so far.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2014,11:23
Going against Julio in one league, so I'm fucked there already.  I also benched Vic Cruz.  Probably on the one week he fucking scores.

Benched Bradshaw in keeper PPR in favour of Woodhead.  Bradshaw responds by scoring a TD.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2014,11:26
Bridgewater's in.  Looks like we're giving the Rams a run for "team most fucked at QB."
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,12:57
The NFL is a ridiculous pile of shit.  Go fuck yourself NFL refs.  Go fuck your god damnned selves.

Desean gets targeted, NO FUCKING CALL.

Eagles start a god damned fight, only the Redskins get penalties.

Fucking horseshit.

You want to protect the QB, tell the QB to get his PANSY FUCKING ASS OFF THE FIELD.

Fuck you, NFL.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,13:02
OK... well, they fixed it.  They originally called 2 Redskins out of the game, which was ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

Turns out they ejected 1 player from each team, but took them about 10 minutes to fix it.

I've never seen so many people injured and thrown out of a game.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,13:04
The Eagles' fucking scrubs are holding every god damned play, and nothing is getting called.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,13:31
Wow I'm in a crappy mood when I'm up all night with my daughter, I quit drinking caffeine, and the Redskins are fucking up.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 21 2014,13:50
The Panthers-Steelers game will put you in a better mood.

I hit a $5 to win $47 parlay on this afternoon's games (Eagles, Colts, Bengals, Chargers, Ravens).

Cousins is legit. I think RGIII will be in Arizona next year.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2014,14:02
QUOTE
Cousins is legit.

I'm unconvinced.  Let's see him do this for another 10 games.

QUOTE
I think RGIII will be in Arizona next year.

The regression from "franchise QB" to "trade bait" has never been quicker.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,14:55

(Leisher @ Sep. 21 2014,16:50)
QUOTE
The Panthers-Steelers game will put you in a better mood.

I sure hope so.
QUOTE
Cousins is legit. I think RGIII will be in Arizona next year.

Having Desean to throw to would make anyone look better.

Cousins is still guaranteed to throw some dumb interception every damned game.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2014,15:06
< Whoa >.  Rob Bironas.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,16:10
Someone make sure Stranger has medical supervision.  3 straight last-second endings, right?

A bit surprised Washington did as well as it did, but wish the D could step up, and our special teams didn't suck balls.
Surprised the Giants won.
Poor St. Louis.

And wow the NFC East basically sucks

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2014,17:13

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 21 2014,20:28
Wow. I didn't expect this kind of performance.
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 22 2014,04:27

(TheCatt @ Sep. 21 2014,19:10)
QUOTE
Someone make sure Stranger has medical supervision.  3 straight last-second endings, right?

All 3 games decided in the last 5 seconds.

we are one blown Rob Ryan play away from being 0-3 and 2 blown Browns plays away from being 3-0.

Tis the life of a Browns fan.

**Also, Johnny almost had a reception in the NFL before he's ever completed a pass! LOL



Posted by Troy on Sep. 22 2014,07:40
Steelers punched us in the mouth, not much you can say other than that. Ya'll offense looked excellent. Especially the line.


Posted by Leisher on Sep. 22 2014,09:00
I hope that's the team I get to see weekly from this point forward, but I know it won't be as they're too inconsistent.

Can we talk about Michigan State QBs? Stanton, Cousins, and Hoyer all look good.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2014,09:05
Fucking injuries.  Woodhead's probably gone for the season.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 22 2014,10:04

(Leisher @ Sep. 22 2014,12:00)
QUOTE
I hope that's the team I get to see weekly from this point forward, but I know it won't be as they're too inconsistent.

Can we talk about Michigan State QBs? Stanton, Cousins, and Hoyer all look good.

Right?  I've watched them all play (my wife went to MSU), so it's nice to see them doing well in the league.  Interesting that they are all players who've had to fight/have injuries to starters for their playing time.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2014,12:49
< Karma, bitch >.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2014,18:00
The Jets, Giants, Jaguars, Rams, and Vikings should be given the option to take the other team's backup QB and sign them to a one-game contract.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2014,19:48
Losing in one league due to Martellus.  Fucker.  Going to lose in another because I started Decker over Kerley, you know, because Decker himself was starting.  Then that fucking injury.

Woodhead: out for season.  Extra fuck me.
Marquise Lee: out.
Bernie Pierce: out.
Decker: perma-nagged with hamstring injury.

Waiting for Gronk to tear another major ligament.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 23 2014,05:34
Lol... I won in all 3 leagues this week.  All were upsets according to predicted points.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 23 2014,06:30
< Harrison is returning to the Steelers. > He should see a fair amount of playing time until Shazier returns. It'll also be nice to have him coaching up Shazier. When you've got Porter and Harrison mentoring you, it probably bodes well for your career.

I lost in my work league by 6 points, but won in my F&F league. I'm now 2-1 in both.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2014,07:23
< Crazy dude > defends Mark Sanchez Geno Smith.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 23 2014,08:02
Did you watch the game? His mechanics are terrible. He is constantly jumping while throwing and he throws the ball at a downward trajectory on shorter routes.

That's all on top of his bad decision making.

I think if the Jets were honest about it, and weren't in a position where they couldn't bench him as it'd be a step backwards, there's no way he's better than Vick.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 23 2014,10:06
< This is not equality. >
Posted by Troy on Sep. 23 2014,10:43
Geno suuuucks

I actually thought Cam had an ok day against the Steelers. It was our defense and special teams that let us down. Run game too.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2014,11:28

(Malcolm @ Sep. 21 2014,17:06)
QUOTE
< Whoa >.  Rob Bironas.

< More whoa >.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2014,19:34
Fuck me.  Not a fun time on the waiver wire this week.  Injury fairy was busy.

EDIT: Except the non-keeper non-PPR league, everyone's healthy there.  Wtf?



Posted by Troy on Sep. 24 2014,08:44
Yeaaaahhh Browns


Posted by Stranger on Sep. 24 2014,09:03
LOL!!!! i actually saw that during the game.  Me and my wife had a good laugh about that dude.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2014,09:11
Johnny's let himself go.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 24 2014,09:15
I just picked up Bridgewater in my keeper league.  F me.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2014,09:26

(TheCatt @ Sep. 24 2014,11:15)
QUOTE
I just picked up Bridgewater in my keeper league.  F me.

I got the rookie Baltimore back.  Justin Forsett's been bounced around more teams than a crack whore.  Lorenzo might have a future.  I still feel the pain, though.  Really kicking myself for trading away Lev Bell instead of Woodhead last year.

As for Teddy.  Well, hell.  The Vikes are going to be throwing.  A lot.  Not necessarily to their WRs.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 24 2014,10:57
Stupidest thing I've done in my keeper league: Trading away Foles 2 years ago when Vick was the starter.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 24 2014,13:06

(Malcolm @ Sep. 24 2014,09:26)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 24 2014,11:15)
QUOTE
I just picked up Bridgewater in my keeper league.  F me.

I got the rookie Baltimore back.  Justin Forsett's been bounced around more teams than a crack whore.  Lorenzo might have a future.  I still feel the pain, though.  Really kicking myself for trading away Lev Bell instead of Woodhead last year.

As for Teddy.  Well, hell.  The Vikes are going to be throwing.  A lot.  Not necessarily to their WRs.

Fistbump, fellow former user of Danny Woodhead. I did the same thing this morning too.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2014,13:12
I was stoked, too.  Week before last was, "Hey, the Ryan Mathews injury train is right on time."
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2014,19:53
catt league:

Approximately half my starters are on bye this week, somehow.  A.J. Green, Ball, Terry West, and J-Cam.  Fortunately Old Man F-Jackson and a couple top 10 WRs are available from my bench...

Keeper PPR:

Fucking playing Lorenzo Talia-something because Pierce was gimpy and Forsett is Forsett.  Pierce has hobbled back to life, so it's a fucking 3-way in Baltimore.  I have both.  I also have dead weight Jeremy Kerley, and I kind of have to keep him around in case Decker (also mine) is out.  Otherwise, I could ditch Kerley for backup RB Old Man S-Jackson.  One of my two Baltimore RBs needs to claim goddamn dominance or I just pissed away about $15 on the waiver wire.  Fuck it, I'm going to flex Torrey Smith.  I can always blame it on Flaccid Flacco.

Non-keeper non-PPR:

Fucking roller coaster WRs need to stabilize.  Cruz, Wallace, Andre Johnson.  Fuck you all.

2-1 in all leagues except the one I care about most, the keeper PPR.  Fucking naturally.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,08:05
Even better.  The dumb-asses over in Cleveland are going with a 3-way as well.  Fucking seriously.  In five years, every NFL team will have one RB per down.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 25 2014,09:31
< Bill Simmons suspended for criticizing Goodell. >

If he had criticized the SEC he'd have been fired.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,09:36
QUOTE
In July, Stephen A. Smith, a commentator on “First Take,” was discussing Rice and the two-game suspension that Goodell initially imposed. In rambling remarks, Smith suggested that women should avoid provoking men into assaulting them. He was soon after suspended from a week from “First Take” and his ESPN Radio show.

At least they're being a douchebag to both sides.  Because if there's one thing I don't want from ESPN, it's opinions on events going on in sports.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 25 2014,09:39
The fans are just ripping ESPN and rightly so. They're as unbiased as MSNBC.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,09:44
< Derek Jeter > mistakes newspapers for opposing defenses.
QUOTE
What would he say to Eli?

"Don't read the papers, don't listen to it..."


< Roddy White > ... "good to go" to be a decoy.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,11:31
Steve Smith < channels > Kelly Bundy.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2014,18:31
At least starting Eli doesn't seem like a shitty decision yet.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2014,18:52
How many Redskins are injured now?

< Many Redskins >  Many Panthers too.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,19:20

(TheCatt @ Sep. 25 2014,20:31)
QUOTE
At least starting Eli doesn't seem like a shitty decision yet.

Benching Larry Donnel was pretty stupid on my part in one league.  Fuck me.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2014,20:30

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2014,22:20)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 25 2014,20:31)
QUOTE
At least starting Eli doesn't seem like a shitty decision yet.

Benching Larry Donnel was pretty stupid on my part in one league.  Fuck me.

Heh.  The guy in my keeper league who has Donnel started Niles Paul instead.  Oooooops.

Manning - 34 points so far.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,07:14
I essentially benched him for Cruz, so it's still 100+ yards but GODDAMN, Vic, no TDs?  Eli threw four and you couldn't nab one?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,07:23
QUOTE
Cousins is legit.

4 picks, a fumble, and barely 250 yards against the Giants defense?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2014,07:54

(TheCatt @ Sep. 21 2014,17:55)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Cousins is legit. I think RGIII will be in Arizona next year.

Having Desean to throw to would make anyone look better.

Cousins is still guaranteed to throw some dumb interception every damned game.

I should have gone plural.  Desean and top 2 TE targets hurt/gone isn't helping.  And that shitacular O-Line.
QUOTE
And then came Thursday Night on CBS. With a national-TV audience full of fantasy football players watching their waiver-wire pickup for the first time, Cousins crapped the bed to the point where Washington fans took to Facebook en masse to plead for Colt McCoy to get the ball.

< Lol >

WHERE'S YOUR QB NOW, THEISMANN?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 26 2014,08:30
A QB can't cover for shitty play everywhere else.

Kirk Cousins isn't Peyton Manning, but he's also not [insert name of Cleveland starter not named Hoyer since 1995].

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,08:42
QUOTE
A friend pointed out to me on Facebook toward the end of the game that Washington has already beaten Jacksonville, and that there isn’t another win on the schedule, making Washington the 31st-best team in the NFL. I countered that Alabama and Texas A&M might challenge for 31st.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,08:48
< Jets O-coordinator >: drinking the koolaid.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 26 2014,09:21

(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2014,11:42)
QUOTE
QUOTE
A friend pointed out to me on Facebook toward the end of the game that Washington has already beaten Jacksonville, and that there isn’t another win on the schedule, making Washington the 31st-best team in the NFL. I countered that Alabama and Texas A&M might challenge for 31st.


What SEC homer stated that crap?



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2014,09:23

(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2014,11:42)
QUOTE
QUOTE
A friend pointed out to me on Facebook toward the end of the game that Washington has already beaten Jacksonville, and that there isn’t another win on the schedule, making Washington the 31st-best team in the NFL.

We still have Tampa... and the Vikings.



Posted by Stranger on Sep. 26 2014,10:25

(TheCatt @ Sep. 26 2014,12:23)
QUOTE
We still have Tampa... and the Vikings.

It feels great that none of these shitty teams everyone is making fun of are Cleveland!  

YAY! we aren't the worst!

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2014,11:27
Yeah, there must be like... 4 or 5 teams worse than Cleveland.  Congrats?
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 26 2014,13:30

(TheCatt @ Sep. 26 2014,14:27)
QUOTE
Yeah, there must be like... 4 or 5 teams worse than Cleveland.  Congrats?

Umm, yeah.. more like 8 teams are worse.

< http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings >

Thats top 75% of the league baby!

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2014,13:49

(Stranger @ Sep. 26 2014,16:30)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 26 2014,14:27)
QUOTE
Yeah, there must be like... 4 or 5 teams worse than Cleveland.  Congrats?

Umm, yeah.. more like 8 teams are worse.

< http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings >

Thats top 75% of the league baby!

That's one opinion.

I REFUSE to believe that Miami and the Giants are worse than Cleveland.

And I'm not so sure about the Rams or Titans either.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 26 2014,14:34
I think you could have an argument with the Giants. Not sure about the rest.

I'd also like to point out that the Steelers are #11 and the team they just curb stomped in their own house is #10. Those polls are 100% opinion.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,14:39
Miami looks fucked due to player-coach disunity.  The Giants need to make decisions on Eli like his last name isn't Manning.  The Rams are a legit QB away from being .500.  The Titans have such a lackluster offense since the glory days of CJ2K, it's almost not funny anymore.  The Vikes are hopeless, again.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 28 2014,13:53

(Leisher @ Sep. 26 2014,17:34)
QUOTE
I'd also like to point out that the Steelers are #11 and the team they just curb stomped in their own house is #10. Those polls are 100% opinion.

How about that Mike Glennon guy?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2014,15:50
Fuck you, Heath Miller.  Could have gone off any week when I wasn't playing you in PPR.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 28 2014,17:09
That's about how I feel about.. Oh... Luck, Forte, Smith, and Novak.  I'm #2 in pts this week... playing #1.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 28 2014,17:28
Drew Brees vs Jason Whitten, I'm down 5 points.  I better as fuck win that.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2014,17:47
If it weren't for Darry Sproles getting points for that return TD in my keeper PPR, he would've shat a brick this week.  The fuck, Philly?  And in that league...

Gronk (me) v. Edelman and Pierre Thomas.  I have a 10 point cushion I expect to lose very quickly.  Need Edelman to get shot or the Gronk show on MNF.  Also, in every league this week, some assfuck managed to pick the same D as me on the waivers, twice.  Every fucking league.  D is what killed me in the catt league this week.  That and Arian Foster phoning it the fuck in.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 28 2014,18:10
Foster was almost inactive.

I have Gronk Monday night too in my FF&F league. I'm down 25 with Brees and Gronk to go and he's got nothing left. Very doable, but I've had a really bad football weekend.

And Catt, I fully expected the Steelers to lose. That's classic Mike Tomlin coaching right there. He wins a big game, then lets the whole team go into the next one overconfident. Oakland has beat us the past three years. Oakland.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 28 2014,19:27

(TheCatt @ Sep. 28 2014,20:28)
QUOTE
Drew Brees vs Jason Whitten, I'm down 5 points.  I better as fuck win that.

Fucking hell, Brees?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2014,21:04
Gronk v. Edelman with 6.5 points in my favour.  It'd be really nice if this is the game his snap count goes back near 100%.  That's so inflating Julian's numbers.

Lost in the catt league.  Won in non-keeper standard.  Got the #1 RB (Murray) and QB (Luck) in points right now.  Too bad my WR corp blows.  Trying to keep my "two wins, one loss" in my three leagues streak going.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 28 2014,21:25
Brees got enough garbage time points for me that I'm only down 2 points going into Monday night's game. I've got Gronk, he's done.

Bernard Pierce killed me this week. I sat Toby Gerhart this week in favor of him, but he got 0 points while Gerhart got 9. His biggest total of the year. Figures.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2014,07:26
I sat both Lorenzo and Pierce this week because one-third of the Baltimore run game isn't enough for me.  Looks like Bernie's not figuring into things unless someone breaks out the Mike Shanahan book of RB strategy over there.  Even my scrub WRs got TDs this week.  Torrey Smith and Decker in one league (nothing for Crabtree).  Even Mike Wallace in the other league got one.  When the fuck is Andre Johnson going to spring back to life?  He needs whatever Geritol Gatorade Steve Smith is slamming before every game.

The NFL is in an apologetic mood today.

< Offensive tackle > from Saints: "We're a bad team."

< Marcel Reece >: "It's embarrassing to us."

Finally, your Geno Smith < apology of the week >, this time not from Rex Ryan.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 29 2014,07:34
< Snoop Dogg on the Steelers' loss. NSFW. >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2014,12:56
< Bill Marrone on the Buffalo loss >.
QUOTE
Kyle Orton is our starting quarterback right now.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 29 2014,13:02
I think I'm 2-2 in all my leagues now.

Imagine if Houston had a QB worth a damn.  That poor D is just going to rot.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2014,19:08
3 receps to 1.  4.5 on my side still.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2014,20:04
GRONK!!!!!!
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 29 2014,20:07
Finally!

Once Brady left I thought it was over. I was losing by 1 point and my opponent's bench was only behind by 2 points with Bowe still on the field (Tiebreaker). I needed 2 more poins and Gronk needed only 12 yards. That TD more than sealed it.

I'll move to 3-1 in both leagues.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2014,20:59
Keeper PPR: 2-2.  I need a WR besides Crabtree to step up.

Non-keeper standard: I'm one WR away from a strong position.  Still 3-1 with Luck, Demarco, Gronk, Larry Donnell.  There is no one who will benefit more from an Eli comeback than me.

Catt league: 2-2.  Striking out on the RBs unless Ball starting rolling ***rimshot*** or Arian gets healthy.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2014,07:10
Damn, if the Patriots got beat any worse, I'd swear they were AP's kids.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 30 2014,07:41
I'm being offered a trade in my work league.

He wants Doug Martin, which would leave me with Terrence West, Matt Asiata, Zac Stacy, and Shonn Greene.

In return, I can pick from Victor Cruz, Keenan Allen, DeShawn Jackson, Brian Quick, and Torrey Smith.

My problem is Terrence West is about to be dropped to third string with Ben Tate returning.  Although Crowell is available in this league, so I could dump West and grab Crowell to offset the loss of Martin.

For the record, Martin has 16 fan points on the year in this league and my WR corp is Calvin Johnson, Markus Wheaton, Terrence Williams, T.Y. Hilton, and Mike Evans.

We start 2 WRs, 2 RBs, 1 TE, and a flex WR/RB.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2014,08:04
Asiata's starting, but on an offense that's going to be playing from behind and throwing a lot.  Other than him, your only starters are Dougie (far from fresh) and Zac, who's playing in much the same situation Matt is.

Let's also remember that Tampa's a train wreck.  The WRs he's letting you pick from:

1) Avoid Torrey Smith.  I own him in a PPR league.  Still not worth it.
2) Vic Cruz is not a solid enough WR1.

DeSean has that injury history and also has Pierre Garcon.  That said, I'd take DeSean over Pierre for potential.  Keenan's been iffy this year (Phil spreads the ball and Keenan hadn't gone over 5 catches or 60 yards until this week).  Bryan Quick is quickly becoming the top WR in St. Louis.  That's kind of like having the most kick-ass Ford Festiva.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 30 2014,08:34
Yeah, the Quick option kind of works against Zac Stacy whom I basically have to start weekly. Two guys is a shitty offense in a defensive division? No thanks.

I was thinking of Cruz and DeSean. Cruz seems to be the better choice at the moment as Eli is beginning to play and he has a ton of targets. DeSean has the injury and there's the whole Cousins/RGIII thing...

Honestly, I don't even know if I need the trade. Think I'll do some number crunching at lunch and see if there's a team that needs a WR but might have three solid starting RBs...

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2014,09:19
< Someone struck > Alex Boone's nerve.
QUOTE
"If you're not in our locker room, then keep the 49ers name out of your mouth," he told the radio show.
...
"As a matter of fact, I know for a fact that everybody loves Harbaugh," he said.


< Shit teams > the real NFL orgs use as < measuring sticks >.
QUOTE
"I love the Raiders and no disrespect to those guys but for the last few years they've not been having great success," said linebacker Philip Wheeler, who played in Oakland in 2012, per The Palm Beach Post. "To me, I don't feel like we need to be too happy about this."


QUOTE
"We just lost to one of the worst NFL teams in our house," Antonio Brown said on Monday. "We blew the game. We feel embarrassed, we feel shame.



Posted by Stranger on Sep. 30 2014,09:25
Speaking of the Raiders, i just bought 2 tickets to the Browns vs Raiders game in Oct last night.  I think i've only seen them win maybe 3 or 4 times in the last 15 years so i figured this was a good chance to see a victory for once!  i hope...
Posted by Troy on Sep. 30 2014,11:31
Nice! Gotta go to a game each year, even if you are playing the Raiders. That could be fun for a number of reasons.

I got Seahawks/Panthers coming up on Oct 26.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2014,11:44
I've paid enough for events at TCF Stadium this year.  Have yet to see a NFL game.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 30 2014,12:31
I'm going to Redskins/Titans and Redskins/Rams.

I may just drown my sorrows both games.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 30 2014,12:39
< Goodbye blackout rule. >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2014,14:06
< How long > until the Raiders fire the interim coach?
QUOTE
The talent-deficient Raiders are 0-4 and just lost Derek Carr to an injury that could sideline the rookie quarterback several weeks. Matt Schaub has been away from the team due to a personal matter and Matt McGloin struggled badly in relief of Carr on Sunday.

Carr: injured.
Schaub: all reports say his arm is not NFL strength anymore.
McGloin: JaMarcus Russell 2.0.

The QB gods are angry this year.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 01 2014,18:18
< Best fantasy football story ever. >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,05:48
One of the ESPN analysts was talking about what it's like to be in a FF league with a NFL player.  Said someone shot down his trade because they talked to all the players involved and thought better of it.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 02 2014,06:30
< Cowboy faces sexual assault. >

The real reason I posted this article was to point out that Ray Rice punched his wife and his career is probably over. If Spillman is found guilty here his career is likely done. Adrian Peterson's career is in limbo for using a switch and going overboard with it on his child, and he certainly won't play this year. Dwyer (I forget his first name) beat up his girlfriend and child and he looks to also be a former NFL player.

Meanwhile:
QUOTE
On Monday, the team welcomed the return of defensive tackle Josh Brent to the team. Brent was convicted of intoxication manslaughter resulting in the death of his best friend and Cowboys practice squad player Jerry Brown.

Brent spent five months in jail and 45 days in a rehab facility before he was released. He was suspended for the first 10 weeks of the season but after the league failed to hear his appeal, it was amended, and while he still can't play in a game until Week 10, he's now allowed to work out and take part in meetings with the Cowboys.


So the message here is that if you harm a woman or child your career is over, but kill another man and that's 10 games.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,17:15
Waiting for Ponder to get injured so the entire TNF audience can see something potentially worse than last season's anti-barn burner (barn waterer?) of MNF's Giants v. Vikes game.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 02 2014,19:01
One redeeming point of tonight's game:
While my opponent has Aaron Rodgers... he's also starting:
Asiata
Patterson
Walsh (Vikings Kicker)
Vikings' D

Best part: He has Packers' D on the bench.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,19:50
Playing against Lacy in keeper PPR against the most evil motherfucker on planet Earth.  Figures the Vikes are handing him the game.

Going against Rodgers in non-keeper standard, I should still pull that out if the Steelers D can kill the Jags.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 02 2014,21:56
QUOTE
I should still pull that out if the Steelers D can kill the Jags.


Good luck with that.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2014,04:25
I have Lacy in my keeper league.  That worked out well.  I may just pull out the upset this week.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2014,07:47
< Cordarrelle >: seriously, Norv, wtf?


Posted by Troy on Oct. 03 2014,07:48

(TheCatt @ Oct. 03 2014,04:25)
QUOTE
I have Lacy in my keeper league.  That worked out well.  I may just pull out the upset this week.

I'll take those 25 fantasy points, but damn I watched the replays and Lacy looks like he's gonna get a concussion on 50% of his runs. Make sure you have a backup.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2014,12:34
< NFL record holder > released.

< Hakeem Nicks is psychotic >.
QUOTE
"I still view myself as the best receiver in the league," Nicks said this week, via The Indianapolis Star. "That expectation ain't never going to change. I'll get a chance to prove it eventually."

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 03 2014,14:13

(Troy @ Oct. 03 2014,10:48)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Oct. 03 2014,04:25)
QUOTE
I have Lacy in my keeper league.  That worked out well.  I may just pull out the upset this week.

I'll take those 25 fantasy points, but damn I watched the replays and Lacy looks like he's gonna get a concussion on 50% of his runs. Make sure you have a backup.

No worries, I got Ray Rice.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 05 2014,10:15
WOW.  Panthers - Best play I've seen this season.  

Bears are punting, punt returner gets nailed before he can catch the ball.  People try to jump on the ball, punt returner gets up, dusts himself off, sees the ball, grabs it, and returns it for a TD.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2014,11:05
Betting Brian Quick is held catchless for the first time this season.  Because I'm playing him.  Also betting Andre Johnson somehow finds the end zone.  Because I benched him.

The lack of scoring in Texas is killing me.  Starting Murray in standard non-keeper and Arian in the catt league.  Wtf?

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 05 2014,11:10
Apparently that was the only play the Panthers are capable of.  Wow.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2014,11:17
QUOTE
Betting Brian Quick is held catchless for the first time this season.

Fourteen yards and a score later...

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2014,18:51
Fucking brutal week.  Unless Gronk comes on or Lynch and Wilson go off Monday, I'm losing to Satan's representative on Earth in keeper PPR.

Why?

Darry Sproles: 5.1
Crabtree: 2.6
Andrew Hawkins: 5.7

Catt league: losing unless A.J. Green pulls something out to the tune of 14 points.  Why?

Ahmad Bradshaw: 5
Antonio Brown: 8
Kelvin Benjamin: 1
Jordan Cameron: 3

With the exception of J-Cam, those are season lows for the entire group.

Standard non-keeper: probably going to win in spite of a fucking 0 from Larry Donnell.  The fucking hell, Larry?  Doing way too well in that league.  Opponent has Edelman going to my Gronk and Morris.  Score is 1.4 in his favour.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2014,21:00

(Malcolm @ Oct. 05 2014,20:51)
QUOTE
Fucking brutal week.  Unless Gronk comes on or Lynch and Wilson go off Monday, I'm losing to Satan's representative on Earth in keeper PPR.

Why?

Darry Sproles: 5.1
Crabtree: 2.6
Andrew Hawkins: 5.7

Catt league: losing unless A.J. Green pulls something out to the tune of 14 points.  Why?

Ahmad Bradshaw: 5
Antonio Brown: 8
Kelvin Benjamin: 1
Jordan Cameron: 3

With the exception of J-Cam, those are season lows for the entire group.

Standard non-keeper: probably going to win in spite of a fucking 0 from Larry Donnell.  The fucking hell, Larry?  Doing way too well in that league.  Opponent has Edelman going to my Gronk and Morris.  Score is 1.4 in his favour.

catt league: Lost by one fucking point.  Bullshit.

Non-keeper: Win.  4-1.

Keeper PPR: Need 20 points each from Lynch and Wilson.  And Pierre Garcon needs to get shot.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2014,07:22
From this weekend:

< "Dirtiest play I've ever seen >."

Not only does Geno suck, he < misses meetings >.

< Said the scrub riding my bench >.

< Jags limit Big Ben >.  Fortunately, not as much as being Jacksonville limits their offense.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 06 2014,08:38
Calvin going out lost me my game in my work league.

In my F&F league, I'm tied with my opponent and I have Seattle's D tonight. If the score stays the same, I'll win due to the tiebreaker (my bench outscored his). I'll be 4-1 despite being one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2014,08:47
17 points off highest scoring team in the catt league.  I will be 2-3 on Tuesday.  Fucking what the fuck.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 06 2014,08:58
25 point deficit= largest comeback by a road team in NFL history!

Coming for you Steelers! we've got some unfinished buisiness to settle. See you on sunday!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2014,09:01

(Stranger @ Oct. 06 2014,10:58)
QUOTE
Coming for you Steelers! we've got some unfinished buisiness to settle. See you on sunday!

That's the spirit.  That 2nd loss isn't going to happen on its own.  You need to build up hope so the disappointment truly stings.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2014,11:05
< More on AP >.
QUOTE
Peterson’s indictment has also led to increased scrutiny of his charity, which focuses on at-risk children, particularly girls. The charity’s 2011 financial report showed $247,064 in total revenue, and listed just three organizations that received money. A fourth outlay, titled simply “clothing for needy families,” listed “unknown” for the number of recipients, the newspaper reports.

In 2009, the charity said its largest gift, $70,000, went to Straight From the Heart Ministries in Laurel, Md. But Donna Farley, president and founder of the Maryland organization, told the newspaper it never received any money from Peterson’s foundation.

“There have been no outside [contributions] other than people in my own circle,” Farley told the newspaper. “Adrian Peterson — definitely not.”


Best mascot < ever >.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 06 2014,11:48

(Stranger @ Oct. 06 2014,11:58)
QUOTE
Coming for you Steelers! we've got some unfinished buisiness to settle. See you on sunday!

Win more than one in the series every 5 years and we'll have "unfinished business".
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2014,13:04
< Ball deals with injury > near his balls, confirming with resounding certainty his 2014 FF draft bust status.

< Rice will be cooked > by November at latest.

< Vikings > maintain the record.
QUOTE
According to USA Today, which maintains a database of NFL player arrests, the Vikings have had more arrests than any other team since 2000; Johnson's arrest is the 47th for a Vikings player since that year.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 06 2014,14:35
QUOTE
Ebola jokes are not funny.

FFS

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 06 2014,16:14

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2014,18:22
A) One on the right is a bit generic.
B) One on the left ... why the night?  The games generally happen Sunday afternoon.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 06 2014,19:01
In one league, I've got Baldwin and Morris.  Currently down 2 points.  Ugh.

Another game: Up by 5.4 pts, he has Harvin.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 07 2014,04:42
And I lost by 1.

In the other league, though, I won by 4 or so, as Harvin had 3 TDs nullified by penalties.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2014,07:23
QUOTE
Keeper PPR: Need 20 points each from Lynch and Wilson.  And Pierre Garcon needs to get shot.

Pretty much happened.  Except Wilson got 30+ points.

QUOTE
Harvin had 3 TDs nullified by penalties

That was fucked up.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2014,08:44
I won to a tiebreaker.

I'm officially the lowest scoring team in the league, but I'm 4-1 and have a 2 game lead over the other three teams in my division.

I want to talk shit about it, but I'm honestly embarrassed to be in first place. Ha!

In my work league I dropped to 3-2. Need to make a trade to replace Calvin while he's out.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2014,08:47
QUOTE
By the end of the first quarter of Monday night's 27-17 victory over the Washington Redskins, Russell Wilson already had more rushing yards than Trent Richardson has managed in any single game with the Indianapolis Colts.

Burn.

QUOTE
"Pierre doesn't matter in this league," Sherman said, per CSN Washington. Given a chance to expound on his comments, Sherman replied, "I mean exactly what I said."



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2014,10:34
< AP pleads > not guilty.
QUOTE
He will receive his full $11.75 million salary while he is inactive.

Just goddamnit.  We could've bought almost four Josh Freemans for that price.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2014,09:11
Ah, waiver wire Wednesday.

For standard non-keeper: Antone Smith of the Falcons is just waiting for Steve Jackson to hurt himself.

PPR keeper: got Pierre Thomas for cheap.  PPR league, so he's good for some points.  Also got Jace Amaro as a backup TE because I was stupid enough to have two TEs with the same bye.

catt league: time to play that most entertaining of games, "Whose D is playing Jacksonville this week?"



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2014,09:20
< Favre on Manning and TDs >.  Best is the first comment.
QUOTE
When are you announcing your return to take the record back Brett?


< Dec 1st >.  AP hearing.
QUOTE
Hardin also said that Peterson "is champing at the bit to publicly talk," but has been advised not to.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 10 2014,04:36
Wow... end of 1st quarter, Houston D (which I started), had 2 points... turned it around and ended up with 12.  Thank goodness for JJ Watt.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 10 2014,06:22
Luckily, I have T.Y. Hilton in both leagues.

In my F&F league, my opponent started 3 guys to my one last night and I'm beating him 28-21 and his defense is on a bye.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 10 2014,13:22
Going against T-Bitch in a couple leagues while starting Ahmad against him.  Andrew Luck is also steamrolling me to #1 in the standard non-keeper league.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 10 2014,16:42
< LOL @ Texans >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2014,11:31
< Suck it, Apple >.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 12 2014,12:09
Dude on the Panthers is named < Fozzy >
Posted by Troy on Oct. 12 2014,12:16
I knew I was saving my #1 waiver order for someone.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2014,14:13
Was epically pissed I sat Torrey Smith today.  Then I checked back and saw he capped at 4-51 with 2 scores.  Decker managed 6-50something and a score.  Would've liked the other 4 points, but wtfever.  Way glad I didn't play Hawkins in PPR.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2014,16:25
Is Dallas beating Seattle?
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 12 2014,16:35
Crushing my opponents in both leagues today.

Just hit a $5 parlay that pays out $120 (Bears, Chargers, Broncos, Lions, Patriots, and Ravens). Missed another $5/$95 parlay because SD didn't win by 8.

I also bet individually on the Cowboys, Browns, Chargers, and Patriots.

Meanwhile, my wife and I went with a group to the local casino. We had never been there. She played blackjack for the first time with our sister-in-law with me and her brother coaching them. My sister-in-law won $540 and my wife won $460.

Not a bad weekend.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2014,18:05
If either Sproles or Crabby goes off, I win all 3 leagues this week, I think.  Jared Cook would need a monster game if one or both turn in respectable performances.  The lack of Wilson/Lynch offense hurt this week.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2014,20:45
PPR keeper: Woohoo.  TD for Darry.  I'm up by about 6 with Crabby v. Cook.  And I'm somehow predicted to lose by 2.

Standard non-keeper: Vic Cruz done, although he was bye week fodder at this point.  And another bust week from Larry Donnell.  Wtf, Larry?  Leaves me with Andre Johnson as my only legit backup WR.  Also need sixty and a score from Brian Quick v. Frisco.  Not liking the odds, but he seems to be the favourite.

catt league: Win.



Posted by Stranger on Oct. 13 2014,04:28
Steelers... got.... REKT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the more satifying wins in recent history!

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 13 2014,04:49
Lost all 3 fantasy leagues.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 13 2014,06:00

(Stranger @ Oct. 13 2014,07:28)
QUOTE
Steelers... got.... REKT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the more satifying wins in recent history!

Meanwhile, in Pittsburgh...



The Steelers screwed up by not blowing the team up this offseason. Too much loyalty to guys who helped them win two Super Bowls and play for a third during Ben's 20-2 run against the Browns.

Seriously though, the Steelers will be down for a while. Ben might not be back. Troy, Heath, Brett, James, and Ike should all be retiring after this year. Mike Mitchell, their big offseason free agent, is being outplayed by a rookie. Todd Haley's offense is boring, predictable, and doesn't fit Ben's game at all. (It would work better if they still had a steel curtain to bail they out.) Mike Tomlin is a player's coach who looks lost most of the time. They have salary cap issues. Aside from Antonio Brown nobody in their receiving corp has shown up this year.

I expect they'll finish with a losing record the next couple of years. Hopefully, it'll result in Tomlin being gone.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2014,07:25
< Fucking hell, AJ >, it's a toe.

< Pacman Jones >: still a total asshole, even to his own teammates.

< Doug Baldwin >: fucking really?  We lost to the Cowboys?

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 13 2014,07:50
Browns next three opponents:

Jags 0-6
Raiders 0-5
Buccs 1-5

You think Browns fans are just a little excited this morning? I just hope they don't look past these teams, gotta win them all.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2014,07:57
C'mon 0-3.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 13 2014,08:01
quit hating Malcolm.. they aren't the Vikings
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 13 2014,08:02
QUOTE
Browns next three opponents:

Jags 0-6
Raiders 0-5
Buccs 1-5

You think Browns fans are just a little excited this morning? I just hope they don't look past these teams, gotta win them all.


Just enjoy your ride. I think you guys deserve a year of winning, although I think your playoff hopes are slim. They won't win the division, and they'll be in a tough wild card race with San Diego, Miami, and Baltimore.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2014,08:08
Hmm, the Jets TE I picked up exploded this weekend.  We'll see if that trend continues.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2014,08:25
< Jerry Jones > decides to piss off fate.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 13 2014,08:44
Things I've learned:
* You need a strong offensive line.

Things the Redskins have learned:
*

Man... How about them Cowboys and Eagles?

Posted by Troy on Oct. 13 2014,09:18
Larry D caught that TD pass, winning me my last "in contention" fantasy game.

And then it got called back for BULLSHIT. And so I lost both games, again. Son of a bitch.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2014,10:50
QUOTE
And then it got called back for BULLSHIT.

Wait, what?  If so, that kind of pisses me off.  Difference between Brian Quick having to perform well and just perform.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2014,11:04
< Vikings don't give a fuck > according to the Vikings coach.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 13 2014,18:49
Do that 3 more times Cap...
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2014,20:50
Crabby comes through.  Quick disappoints.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2014,07:52
< No-show Moreno > is done for the year.  AP going with < not guilty >.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2014,09:08
< NFL cutting salaries >.  Players having to resort to stealing cologne and underwear for resale.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2014,09:54
< Cowher and Ward > call out the Pittsburgh Cardboarders, because there's sure as shit no steel left.


Posted by Leisher on Oct. 14 2014,11:21
Your link doesn't work.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2014,11:22

(Leisher @ Oct. 14 2014,13:21)
QUOTE
Your link doesn't work.

Fixed.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 14 2014,11:25
Here's hoping the Steelers get smart and blow it all up. These comments will help.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2014,08:46
Fucking brutal waiver wire week again.  Picked up the Cleveland D in a couple leagues.  Their next 5 opponents:

Jags
Raiders
Bucs
Bengals
Texans

Posted by Troy on Oct. 15 2014,09:20
Waiver order 2. Cam newton up for grabs.

Dude at waiver claim 1 swooped in and grabbed him. Very sad feels.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2014,09:35

(Troy @ Oct. 15 2014,11:20)
QUOTE
Waiver order 2. Cam newton up for grabs.

Dude at waiver claim 1 swooped in and grabbed him. Very sad feels.

Cam's backing Danger Russ in my keeper PPR league.  At some point, I've got to deal one of the two for a decent WR.  With the exception of Seattle next week, he's got a softball schedule until year's end.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 15 2014,11:04
I've had the #1 WW priority all year, and haven't needed it. Hopefully I won't.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 15 2014,11:25
My team's so bad I've had to take a lot of waivers... still bad.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2014,12:01
< Jets player: > blames the NFL schedule gods.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,07:26
< Marvin Lewis > has taken a few too many shots to the head.
QUOTE
"I coached defenses and linebackers for a long time and concussions didn't linger," Lewis told reporters on Wednesday. "Now we have found that because of the media and things they seem to linger longer. There's a lot of attention paid to it. I don't know why they linger longer. I don't remember them lingering like they do now."

Dr. Marvin Lewis, neurologist.

< Cousins >: not legit.
QUOTE
Gruden's proclamation ends any speculation that Kirk Cousins might retain the starting job once Griffin returns. As recently as Sept. 23, Gruden had left the door open for Cousins.
...
Said Gruden: "If things continue in this downward spiral, there's always a chance we could go to Colt."

It's unknown if Gruden was referring to McCoy or .45.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 16 2014,08:26
Where;s Theismann now?
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 16 2014,09:36
Uh ohh... lookie who's in the top half of the league.

< http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings >

i do take these rankings with a grain of salt, they are just fun to look at.  i mean Seattle has the same record as the Browns and they are ranked 5th and two weeks ago they had the Bengals as #1! really? the Bengals?!!

The Browns are literally two plays away from being 5-0 right now.  If those two plays went the Browns way then they would undoubtedly be #1.  I don't for a second consider them to be the best team in the league, but it does show just how much these ranking are "what have you done for me lately".

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,10:23
QUOTE
it does show just how much these ranking are "what have you done for me lately".

That's why they're weekly power rankings.  And the Browns have a soft schedule for the next few weeks.  Should pad their wins nicely so the disappointment cuts deeper when they get bounced from the playoffs.

QUOTE
The Browns are literally two plays away from being 5-0 right now.

The Cubs were < one play away > from the World Series.  Shit happens.  Hoyer could get injured again and Johnny Mediocrity will have to go in and lose six or seven straight starts.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 16 2014,10:32
QUOTE
Should pad their wins nicely so the disappointment cuts deeper when they get bounced from the playoffs.


Only one team every year doesn't get bounced from the playoffs, and thats the Super Bowl winner..  But thanks for thinking they are gonna make the playoffs, cause the Vikings sure as hell aren't!

QUOTE
Hoyer could get injured again and Johnny Mediocrity will have to go in and lose six or seven straight starts.


You mean kinda like what happened to them Vikings?.. Yeah, hows Teddy Bridgewater working out right about now? i'd bet you would be happy with "mediocrity" cause he's not even close.  What a bum.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,10:49
QUOTE
But thanks for thinking they are gonna make the playoffs, cause the Vikings sure as hell aren't!

They've also had their entire offense turned upside down.  They weren't making it before that, but their rookie QB is starting while Johnny's sitting on the side doing coke off his clipboard.

QUOTE
Yeah, hows Teddy Bridgewater working out right about now? i'd bet you would be happy with "mediocrity" cause he's not even close.

Teddy's not a douchebag like Johnny is and has also racked up more NFL experience.  I'll take him over that fucko any day of the week.  I'll take Derek Carr over Johnny.  I'll take Matt Glennon over Johnny.  I'll take Blake Bortles over Johnny.  I'll take any Manning, even Archie, over Johnny.  The Vikings got rid of their last < locker room cancer > some time ago.  Cleveland, on the other hand, drafts that malignant tumour of a human being and it's currently pissing off their starting QB.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 16 2014,11:13
There are lots of douchbags in the NFL, prolly multiple douchbags on every team.  But noone gives a shit what little old Malcolm in Minnesota thinks.  Infact you could say Johnny has been a saint since the season has started.  He aint out there bitching about not playing, you didn't see anything from him on their bye week.  All the shit you hear from the national media is just flat out wrong,  how is he pissing off their starting QB?  i listen to local radio everyday, team bloggers, people who travel with the team to every game, and each and every single one of them will tell you Johnny is NOT a cancer, he has done nothing to disrupt any locker room continuity.  Thats prolly why Hoyer has been able to take control like he has.  So all your "knowledge" on Johnny from watching sportscenter is laughable.

Plus, its prolly best for Johnny that he's sitting.  Besides  Andrew Luck and Russel Wilson name me one day one rookie QB that has panned out???  I'll tell you, NOT MANY!  RG3, Bradford, all the past Browns QB's.  Carr, Bortles, Bridgewater all fucking BLOW!  maybe they should sit and learn, as i recall Arron Rodgers, Tom Brady sat for some time before they got to play.. and they are two of the best there are.  

So you can take your "non douchbag" Bridgewater cause i can tell just you how far a nice guy gets you in the NFL.  I know from our past nice guys, real winners there.  Infact the last winning QB the Vikings had was Farve, kinda a douch if ya ask me.. but you didn't care, they won!  So i'll go ahead and take Johnny douchbag as our backup QB, don't bother me one bit.  

And don't you think that you ragging on a suspected coke user when you yourself are an admitted drug user is somewhat hypocrite?  i mean, i think you have more run ins with the law than Johnny has.. am i right??? hmm.. Kinda makes you the bigger douchbag if ya ask me.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,11:39
QUOTE
But noone gives a shit what little old Malcolm in Minnesota thinks

Stranger in Cleveland ranks higher, no doubt.

QUOTE
how is he pissing off their starting QB

< Here >.
QUOTE
Currently leading the NFL with 13.6 yards per completion, Hoyer sports a 99.5 passer rating to go with his 6-2 mark as a Browns starter. Showing growing chemistry with play-caller Kyle Shanahan, Hoyer's rise has all but made Johnny Football an afterthought.

That success, though, has yet to kick-start Cleveland's front office into action. Linta told NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport on Wednesday that "there have been no talks" since the spring, when the Browns offered Hoyer a long-term extension.


QUOTE
Tom Brady sat for some time before they got to play

Brady got to play because of an injury, otherwise he would've been Mr. Backup to Drew Bledsoe the rest of his life.  Leish will tell you about the hype that is Brady, so I'll leave it to him.

QUOTE
And don't you think that you ragging on a suspected coke user when you yourself are an admitted drug user is somewhat hypocrite?

1) I don't have an NFL contract with all its legally binding bullshit about illegal substances.
2) < Our records are pretty close >.
3) I admit it.  Johnny doesn't.  Maybe he should grow a pair and say it.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 16 2014,11:41
QUOTE
The Vikings got rid of their last locker room cancer some time ago.


Umm.. I'm sorry, how about that baby beater Adrian Peterson?!! maybe not a cancer, but definetly a bigger douche than anyone in the NFL, even Ray Rice.  So your hero and only good player since Randy Moss is the biggest douche to ever set foot on an NFL field.  

Beats up little babies..

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 16 2014,11:48
How was Favre a douche? The guy believed in himself and liked to show his dick to pretty girls. Doesn't make you a douche or we're all douches.

That being said, you're right that a lot of these spoiled athletes are douches. Big Ben is a douche, but went 14-1 as a rookie and won two Super Bowls (one included the best pass in Super Bowl history). Although, I think hanging out with Justin Beiber, being a spoiled rich prick, and getting a pass while you don't attend classes, illegally sign autographs, and do cocaine makes you a hated douche.

In different news, I've got a decision to make in my WR corp in my F&F league this week. I have to start TY Hilton to try and offset my opponent's QB, Luck. Plus, I can't sit a guy who blew up last week. I'm also starting Sanu with AJ Green still out. However, I'm torn between Sanders who had a terrible game in Denver and is going against SF's defense, and Gronk going tonight against a horrible Jets defense. I'm leaning Gronk.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,11:52
Gronk.  Go Gronk.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,11:54

(Stranger @ Oct. 16 2014,13:41)
QUOTE
QUOTE
The Vikings got rid of their last locker room cancer some time ago.


Umm.. I'm sorry, how about that baby beater Adrian Peterson?!! maybe not a cancer, but definetly a bigger douche than anyone in the NFL, even Ray Rice.  So your hero and only good player since Randy Moss is the biggest douche to ever set foot on an NFL field.  

Beats up little babies..

Johnny is a baby.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 16 2014,11:57
I really dislike Burficit. If we had to play that dirty motherfucker twice a year like the other teams in his conference I'd really loathe the guy.

It will take every ounce of self control to not troll Bengal Twitter accounts when karma finally delivers his season ending injury.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,11:58
Also, AP might beat kids, but no one said he was talking shit on or off the field.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,11:59

(Troy @ Oct. 16 2014,13:57)
QUOTE
I really dislike Burficit. If we had to play that dirty motherfucker twice a year like the other teams in his conference I'd really loathe the guy.

It will take every ounce of self control to not troll Bengal Twitter accounts when karma finally delivers his season ending injury.

Saw that.  Prick move.  Fucking twice.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 16 2014,12:02

(Malcolm @ Oct. 16 2014,14:58)
QUOTE
Also, AP might beat kids, but no one said he was talking shit on or off the field.

Yeah, because talking shit on the field makes you a much worse human being than a baby beater...
Posted by Troy on Oct. 16 2014,12:03

(Malcolm @ Oct. 16 2014,11:59)
QUOTE

(Troy @ Oct. 16 2014,13:57)
QUOTE
I really dislike Burficit. If we had to play that dirty motherfucker twice a year like the other teams in his conference I'd really loathe the guy.

It will take every ounce of self control to not troll Bengal Twitter accounts when karma finally delivers his season ending injury.

Saw that.  Prick move.  Fucking twice.

And he head-hunted Kelvin Benjamin into a concussion and our #1 WR is probably out for next game.

Ok, i'm gonna do a little trolling when karma comes around.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,12:13

(Stranger @ Oct. 16 2014,14:02)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 16 2014,14:58)
QUOTE
Also, AP might beat kids, but no one said he was talking shit on or off the field.

Yeah, because talking shit on the field makes you a much worse human being than a baby beater...

I never said better or worse.  I'm not defending AP.  He got in trouble for doing shitty, stupid things.  Not saying them.  Until the child abuse, pretty much all his teammates liked him and looked up to him.  Only time someone will look up to Johnny is if they need blow or bieber's autograph.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,12:13

(Troy @ Oct. 16 2014,14:03)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 16 2014,11:59)
QUOTE

(Troy @ Oct. 16 2014,13:57)
QUOTE
I really dislike Burficit. If we had to play that dirty motherfucker twice a year like the other teams in his conference I'd really loathe the guy.

It will take every ounce of self control to not troll Bengal Twitter accounts when karma finally delivers his season ending injury.

Saw that.  Prick move.  Fucking twice.

And he head-hunted Kelvin Benjamin into a concussion and our #1 WR is probably out for next game.

Ok, i'm gonna do a little trolling when karma comes around.

Really?  My WRs need to stop getting injured.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,16:42
Trade offer in standard/non-keeper:

Lorenzo Talia-something, one-third of Baltimore's running game, plus Kendall Wright for one of my RBs.  Countered with F-Jack and Big Ben for Julio.  We'll see how desperate he is.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 16 2014,21:49
Lorenzo is being dropped everywhere because of...not Bernard Pierce...the other guy. He's on my fucking team and I don't remember his name. Anyway, he's playing out of his mind. That's dropped Lorenzo's playing time massively.

I forgot to start Gronk and he only scored 6 points, so even if Sanders only gets 7, I'll consider it a good move.

My opponent sat Shane Vereen. Oops.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2014,22:17
Relatively decent offensive showings and both my dudes pull out less than good numbers.  Wtf?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 17 2014,09:33
QUOTE
Lorenzo is being dropped everywhere because of...not Bernard Pierce...the other guy. He's on my fucking team and I don't remember his name.

Justin Forsett.  In other news, < Kelvin's probably fine >.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 17 2014,09:46
I too, was surprised that I had the Raven's #1 RB on my bench.

Like - I didn't even know he was there until I looked at his carries a few weeks ago and realized he was getting #1 RB reps. Fucking awesome.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 17 2014,12:45

(Stranger @ Oct. 16 2014,12:36)
QUOTE
The Browns are literally two plays away from being 5-0 right now.  If those two plays went the Browns way then they would undoubtedly be #1.  I don't for a second consider them to be the best team in the league, but it does show just how much these ranking are "what have you done for me lately".

And two plays away from 1-4.

And a 5-0 Browns would NOT be #1 on those power rankings.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 17 2014,13:19
Any 5-0 team would be #1 in the power rankings right now.  Why do you think teams move up and down so fast?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 17 2014,13:27
< Steelers > bench high-priced corner that got lit up like a blunt at Josh Gordon's house.

QUOTE
Any 5-0 team would be #1 in the power rankings right now.  Why do you think teams move up and down so fast?

< Hah >.  Browns worried about Jags.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 17 2014,15:29
< Harvin to Jets. WTF? >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 17 2014,15:43

(Leisher @ Oct. 17 2014,17:29)
QUOTE
< Harvin to Jets. WTF? >

That's insane to me, considering how much they dropped on Decker.  Also considering that their problem isn't at fucking WR.  I do know Percy's not been happy at all with how he was being used.  Not sure if this is better or worse for Decker.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2014,11:34
The one week I start Fred Jackson, because he's playing the Vikes ... fucking injury in the first half.  Come the everloving fuck on.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2014,12:41
Anyone want to tell me why Seattle can't handle the motherfucking Rams?
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 19 2014,13:34

(TheCatt @ Oct. 17 2014,15:45)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Oct. 16 2014,12:36)
QUOTE
The Browns are literally two plays away from being 5-0 right now.  If those two plays went the Browns way then they would undoubtedly be #1.  I don't for a second consider them to be the best team in the league, but it does show just how much these ranking are "what have you done for me lately".

And two plays away from 1-4.

And a 5-0 Browns would NOT be #1 on those power rankings.

Ah... Browns.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2014,16:46
Hey, Jordan Cameron, you fucking suck worse than Todd Yoder.  Draft bust loser.  Coming in runner up in the "fuck you of the week," Larry Donnell.  Good job losing two fumbles, dipshit.  Way to build a repoire with your QB.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2014,16:47

(Malcolm @ Oct. 17 2014,15:27)
QUOTE
< Hah >.  Browns worried about Jags.

QUOTE
"All the circumstances where you would say this is a trap game and I think as a staff we're just as curious to see. ... We're hopeful and confident that we'll handle it the right way, but this is a big test for us."


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2014,16:56

(Malcolm @ Oct. 19 2014,13:34)
QUOTE
The one week I start Fred Jackson, because he's playing the Vikes ... fucking injury in the first half.  Come the everloving fuck on.

This killed me in everything except the PPR keeper league where Russell Wilson, Ahmad Bradshaw, and Andrew goddamn Hawkins decided it was ass-kicking time.

In first or contention for first in my div in every league except the catt league, where it's been impossible for more than a couple of my dudes not to suck since week 3.  Probably losing there again unless Tony Brown and Arian outscore Lev Bell plus a scrub WR by about 20 points.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 20 2014,09:27
Saw a poll last week on Yahoo, I believe, that stated some bullshit about most NFL people would rather face Kaepernick instead of Manning. I think if that sentiment were true, all of those people should be fired.

Kap's been unable to show consistency, while that other guy is the best ever.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 20 2014,09:56
< LOL >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2014,10:34
QUOTE
Saw a poll last week on Yahoo, I believe, that stated some bullshit about most NFL people would rather face Kaepernick instead of Manning.

You are shitting me.  Kaep is who's making me regret my Crabtree draft.  Manning can make Emmanuel Sanders look good.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2014,13:04
< Not legit >.
QUOTE
If RGIII's not ready, it will be Colt McCoy's show.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 20 2014,13:16
I was at that game.  McCoy wasn't exactly awesome.  It's just different flavors of mediocrity.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2014,17:28
So you burn through about one decent QB prospect per year over there?
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 20 2014,17:30
< More LOL >
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 20 2014,18:52
Yahoo sports had a heart attack...

First it was Big Ben throwing to A Brown... then
QUOTE
Antonio Brown passed to Antonio Brown to the left for 3 yard touchdown

then
QUOTE

Antonio Brown passed to Lance Moore to the left for 3 yard gain

All referring to the same play.

I've got Houston's D against A Brown & Bell.. only up 20 now.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 20 2014,18:54
21 pts in 1:13?  Damn.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 20 2014,18:58
Failing texans
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2014,19:04
QUOTE
I've got Houston's D against A Brown & Bell.. only up 20 now.

Last year in keeper PPR, I dished Welker and Lev Bell for Chris & Andre Johnson to bolster my lineup for a championship run.

...
...
...

Yeah.  While I bailed on Wes at the right time, I am kicking my own nutsack for letting Lev Bell go.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2014,19:28
Watching Ryan Fitzpatrick trying to scramble is like watching Jimmy Fallon trying to be funny.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2014,20:44
Rough-ass week.  1 win, 2 losses.

5-2 in keeper PPR.  Goddamn, I need WRs.
4-3 in standard.  One solid WR would damn near guarantee me a spot in the playoffs.  Was hoping dumb-ass was taking that Fred Jackson deal.
2-4 in catt league.  Bottom totally dropped the fuck out.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 21 2014,05:36
3-4, 2-5, and 2-5.

In my keeper league, 2-5 makes me 2nd place in my 4 team division, as I am 2-1 in the division.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2014,07:14
< Percy > doesn't play well with others.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2014,13:01
< Kerley > gets $16M extension.  I'd like to know why.  The Jets have officially lost their shit on WRs.

Michael Sam.  Cut.  < Again >.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2014,21:57
In keeper PPR, as Pierre Thomas goes down, I snag tre mason a week before last.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2014,09:17
Keeper PPR flex start: Torrey Smith at the Bengals or Greg Jennings at the Bucs?  There's also Tre Mason playing KC.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2014,15:07
Wonder where the Browns are in the power rankings this week...
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 22 2014,15:35
Steelers 15
Panthers 17
Browns 20
Skins 26
Vikings 27

Bad year for DTMan football.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2014,17:46
Any year the Vikes finish above the top 30 is a good year.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 22 2014,19:00
Cam is still getting healthy. He'll put the entire team on his back after the bye and we'll bumble into the playoffs somehow. *OFFICIAL TROY PREDICTION*

Also were still first in the NFC South at 3-3-1


QUOTE

Keeper PPR flex start: Torrey Smith at the Bengals or Greg Jennings at the Bucs?  There's also Tre Mason playing KC.


Can't imagine Torrey Smith being a bad move. We tied them in the 30s in their house two weeks ago - and the Ravens are a much better team right now



Posted by Troy on Oct. 22 2014,19:05
Then again I also am a huge homer and benched Lacy last week because we were playing Green Bay.

He only dropped like 13 VERY valuable points.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2014,21:20
QUOTE
Can't imagine Torrey Smith being a bad move.

He's such an inconsistent WR with a huge range of scoring.  Could be 3 points, could be 30.  He is looking like the best bet.  If Tre could passblock, run routes, or catch, I'd go with him.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 23 2014,08:06
QUOTE
Keeper PPR flex start: Torrey Smith at the Bengals or Greg Jennings at the Bucs?  There's also Tre Mason playing KC.

Also on the table: Darry Sproles at Arizona.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 23 2014,10:44
< Donkey Ass Sucker > defends Redskins.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 23 2014,10:46
I actually think about the word now before I say it.  Ugh.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 23 2014,10:53
I'd personally buy tickets for a Washington game if they changed their name to the Honkies.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 23 2014,11:47
< Hoyer and the Browns >.  Since the Cleveland bandwagon seems to have gotten a little light in the past week.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 23 2014,12:25
< Russell Wilson: "Not black enough". >

Is there anything more racist than racism against someone who shares your skin color, but doesn't act in a way you expect people with your skin color to act?

If racism is simply ignorance of someone's culture, then how far beyond ignorance is shit like this?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 23 2014,12:50
QUOTE
Russell Wilson: "Not black enough".

I want to see the model for blackness one day.  If Danger Russ shows up to practice looking like John Shaft, will that be enough?

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 23 2014,20:40
In the F&F league I'm playing Peyton Manning who has thrown for 283 yards and 3 TDs.

However, I started Emmanuel Sanders who has caught all 3 of those TDs and gone for 120 yards. Somehow I'm outscoring my opponent Sanders (30) vs Manning (26).

Wow.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 23 2014,20:47
Dude in keeper PPR started Sanders and Manning.  Fortunately, he's playing someone else.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 23 2014,21:16
Meh, not too bad. I had Rivers tonight going against Manning. Until that last minute pick I was ahead. Only down a point or so going into the weekend.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 24 2014,07:23
Think I'll start both Jennings (against literally the worst pass D in the league) against Tampa and Torrey against Cincinnati.  Will bench Hawkins versus Oakland.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 24 2014,07:44
Wow.  Keeper PPR: 12 teams.  Four have a winning record.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 24 2014,08:12
< Manning sees the game at a whole other level. >

Is that anal? Yes, but you've got to admit, he's right.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 24 2014,08:21

(Leisher @ Oct. 24 2014,10:12)
QUOTE
< Manning sees the game at a whole other level. >

Is that anal? Yes, but you've got to admit, he's right.

Eh, they won by score full scores.  When you've got time to bitch out your scoreboard operator, you're coasting.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 24 2014,08:33
In general, people I've met like that have a hard time ever being happy.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 24 2014,10:46

(TheCatt @ Oct. 24 2014,08:33)
QUOTE
In general, people I've met like that have a hard time ever being happy.

Clients like that are a two edged sword.

It's like yeah we bill by the hour, but I can only handle so many revisions to revisions before I want to strangle you through the internet.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2014,09:34
The catt league had a snake draft, and I somehow drew the last lot.  In addition, I have next to zero depth.  Wtf?

My bench/ICU:

AJ Green
Montee Ball
Fred Jackson
Owen Daniels
Antone Smith
... all hurt.

Then there's James Jones and Matt Ryan.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 26 2014,15:02
Steeler's ugly jerseys blind Colts.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 26 2014,15:27
I have no idea how that's happening.

Despite my Thursday showing, I've tried my best to lose this week in my F&F league. I started Greg Olsen (1) instead of Gronk (32). Bernard and Forsett had mediocre weeks.

My opponent is up 4, but just lost Cameron for the game and they only have Malcolm Floyd going. I'm got TY Hilton and Brees tonight.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2014,15:59
Torrey Smith: nothing.  Meanwhile, Andrew Hawkins is on my bench with 20 points.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2014,20:54

(Malcolm @ Oct. 26 2014,17:59)
QUOTE
Torrey Smith: nothing.  Meanwhile, Andrew Hawkins is on my bench with 20 points.

That roster decision is going to cost me the fucking PPR keeper game this week.  Probably winning in the other two leagues.  If Dez Bryant gets damn near completely shut down, I've got a chance.

Won the other two leagues, though.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 26 2014,21:12
I wound up steaming rolling my opponent in the F&F league. Haven't looked at my work league yet. Don't really care about that one. I'll check it in the morning.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 27 2014,19:53
It's like a Cleveland Browns QB reunion party tonight.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2014,20:58

(Malcolm @ Oct. 26 2014,22:54)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 26 2014,17:59)
QUOTE
Torrey Smith: nothing.  Meanwhile, Andrew Hawkins is on my bench with 20 points.

That roster decision is going to cost me the fucking PPR keeper game this week.

Holy shit.  

Keeper PPR: I win by 0.2 points.  The last pass that was going to Dez that got knocked away just won it.

Fortunately I'm not playing this dude:
QB Matthew Stafford 25.9
RB Matt Forte 29.8
RB Mark Ingram 24.5
WR Jeremy Maclin 46.7
WR Antonio Brown 38.8
TE Heath Miller 24.2
FLEX Sammy Watkins 27.7
D/ST Steelers 15
K Adam Vinatieri  10
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
242.6

He's .500.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 28 2014,04:34
I was up about 10, had Garcon to his Romo.  Figured it was over.

Redskins won, and I did as well.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 28 2014,05:52
Romo never should have been back in that game. His first series proved it. He lost all his timing. You're 6-1 and playing a team that you can afford to lose to. Why risk your QB's health?
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 28 2014,06:13
Maybe he had himself on his fantasy team and needed to try for points?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2014,11:48
Wtf?  I just got an offer for Jordy Nelson and Greg Olsen in exchange for Torrey Smith, Woodhead (IR), and Greg Jennings (waiver fodder from last week).
Posted by Troy on Oct. 28 2014,13:02
Both were underwhelming last week, take that shit before someone else does.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 28 2014,13:14
Greg Olsen has been a beast most games this year.

If I was in that league, I'd be screaming collusion over a trade like that.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2014,13:25
QUOTE
If I was in that league, I'd be screaming collusion over a trade like that.

I have to check my inbox more often.  Trade was offered a couple days ago.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 28 2014,17:24
I am 3-5 in every one of my fantasy leagues.

The Redskins are also 3-5.

When does basketball start?

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 29 2014,13:32
< Power rankings from 538 >

Pitt 15
Car 17
Minn 22
Cle 25
Was 27

Really?  Minn 22?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,08:38
Keeper PPR:

Trade goes through.  Cam for Brandon Marshall.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 30 2014,09:36
Cleveland does not belong that low.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 30 2014,09:37

(Leisher @ Oct. 30 2014,12:36)
QUOTE
Cleveland does not belong that low.

I would swap Cleveland and Minnesota.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 30 2014,09:43
Yeah, I agree.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,10:06

(Leisher @ Oct. 30 2014,11:43)
QUOTE
Yeah, I agree.

I can't fucking believe I'm saying yes.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,10:24
< Jerry Jones >: still insane.
QUOTE
But you’ll see owners all the time on the sideline. I’m not going to say all the time, you’ll see certain owners down there a lot.

Wtf?

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 30 2014,10:37
I have never seen a Rooney on the sideline.

In different news...

I'm quietly waiting to be called out for my fantasy moves this week.  :p
(wait for it.)

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 30 2014,11:01
That's hilarious! you spent $8 to ensure you won't lose $10! You prolly didn't need to spend anything cause I've got 4 starters on a bye and chalked this week up as a loss since draft day.  I'll take RG3 for one week, whatever.  Not like Ryan Fitzpatrick or Brian Hoyer have been putting up monster numbers either.

Regardless, good cock block move.  LOL

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,11:02
What's the situation?
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 30 2014,11:05
I have Aaron Rodgers on a bye and he picked up Fitzpatrick and Hoyer in attempt to leave me with no QB this week.  I took RG3, not great but I think they all will have similar numbers.

Funny thing is, if I win Leisher just cost himself $18

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,11:07

(Stranger @ Oct. 30 2014,13:05)
QUOTE
I have Aaron Rodgers on a bye and he picked up Fitzpatrick and Hoyer in attempt to leave me with no QB this week.  I took RG3, not great but I think they all will have similar numbers.

Funny thing is, if I win Leisher just cost himself $18

It's damn near always possible to scrape a bye week QB from the wire.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 30 2014,11:08
In our league, when you lose you owe $10, and every transaction cost $4 a piece.  So he spent $8 just to try and cock block me!

Gotta love Leisher's drive to win at any cost.  Last year he racked up over $100 in transaction fees I believe.  I made a joke with him that he would have to win the championship just to avoid losing any money in the league... He did.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,11:10
Real cash?  Four actual dollars?

< Ricky Williams > on an NFL do-over.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 30 2014,11:14
QUOTE
Real cash?  Four actual dollars?


Yep, real money.. the money for each loss from the league is divided up amongst the top 3 teams.  And all the transaction fees are put towards a big drinking gambling fest usually sometime around march madness.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 30 2014,11:46

(Malcolm @ Oct. 30 2014,11:10)
QUOTE
< Ricky Williams > on an NFL do-over.

Ricky Williams, I too, would have preferred to spend my post-college years rambling around the country getting more college pussy and smoking weed.

Sadly in the real life, you can't do that unless you have a job. And rambling around the country smoking weed and slaying co-eds pays less than you (apparently) think it does.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 30 2014,11:48
QUOTE
And all the transaction fees are put towards a big drinking gambling fest usually sometime around march madness.


Nope.

New rules this year. No more transaction fees. I fought HARD to get them dropped last year and most people were on my side. We haven't had that end of year party in about 6 years, so there was no point to the transaction fees any more. Plus, they restricted moves. Peeps were simply not making lineup changes even when they needed to because they didn't want to spend the money.

(I'm not making this up, they're gone.)

But I was doing the moves as a joke. You're more than welcome to grab Fitz or Hoyer if you want them. Let me know and I'll release them immediately. I have no need for either and will be dropping them anyway once I see someone I actually want to add to my bench.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,11:52
QUOTE
I fought HARD to get them dropped last year and most people were on my side.

Spending real cash on adds/drops would be a dealbreaker for me.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 30 2014,11:52
WOW! nobody bothered to tell me this... I would have made many more moves this year knowing that
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 30 2014,12:18
The add/drop money was a holdover from our fanball.com days. We not only paid a fee to use the site, but THEY charged us $2 for an add and $2 for a drop.

Then free sites came along and fanball.com is gone. (Bought out by somebody.)

The add/drop fee wasn't dropped in favor of an end of year party, but since I've always been the most active waiver wire guy (Every time we did get together, people would thank me for the feast...) I was fighting non-stop to get it dropped. Last year I said it goes or I do and others backed my play. So it's gone.

Why do you think the Red Rocker has been making moves this year?!

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 30 2014,12:22
I really have no problem with it. I believe I was one of the first to agree with you and even said something about it at golf this year.  I just never heard of the change in rules, that's all.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,12:40
QUOTE
Then free sites came along and fanball.com is gone. (Bought out by somebody.)

We used to use them.  Fuck that site.  Greedy bastards.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,17:25
So no one's doing the pick 'em anymore?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2014,19:01
Christ.  I just saw the NFL's anti-domestic violence and sexual abuse TV spot.  Ye gods.  It looks like the almighty himself smacked around a couple of those players.
Posted by Troy on Oct. 31 2014,08:29
Panthers season pretty off the rails after that loss. Unless we somehow storm back after the bye week we can start thinking draft really early.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2014,09:19

(Malcolm @ Oct. 30 2014,10:38)
QUOTE
Keeper PPR:

Trade goes through.  Cam for Brandon Marshall.

I'm actually catching flak for this in the league.  The hell?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2014,09:55
< Eric Decker > starts contest on Twitter.  Not the best idea.
QUOTE
#jetsnation, tell me why you love the @nyjets using #jetsdiehardfan and I'll send a signed prize to my favorite.


Some examples:
QUOTE
because normally drinking heavily at 1pm on a Sunday would make me feel like an alcoholic.
...
That time Rex guaranteed a Super Bowl and then went 6-10
...
I love @nyjets because they make me believe even I could play in the @NFL



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 31 2014,10:02

(Malcolm @ Oct. 31 2014,12:19)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 30 2014,10:38)
QUOTE
Keeper PPR:

Trade goes through.  Cam for Brandon Marshall.

I'm actually catching flak for this in the league.  The hell?

Why?

Cam's a shitty QB and Marshall plays with a shitty QB.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2014,10:08

(Leisher @ Oct. 31 2014,12:02)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 31 2014,12:19)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 30 2014,10:38)
QUOTE
Keeper PPR:

Trade goes through.  Cam for Brandon Marshall.

I'm actually catching flak for this in the league.  The hell?

Why?

Cam's a shitty QB and Marshall plays with a shitty QB.

No idea.  A really bad trade went through last week because "no one cared.". Both my pay leagues have had trade hissy fit this season.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 31 2014,10:40
I'm not sure which side of that trade you were on based on your poor use of English.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2014,10:49
Last week was Run DMC + Megatron for Alfred Morris and V-Jax.  The dude getting Megatron is a contender and the dude letting him go is just plain stupid.  That trade went through because of some perceived "apathy."  I guess not enough people voted to veto it, the commish (also a contender) wanted it vetoed, and he didn't get enough support.  He's the one bitching about me sending Cam and getting Brandon.  Other league, half the teams burst their manginas when someone traded Russell Wilson for Garcon.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2014,18:39
< Deangelo Hall > semi-pulls a Nate Burleson.

< Johnny Clipboard speaks >.
QUOTE
"I feel like I'm in the role that I need to be at this time," he said. "And, for me, obviously, I wasn't where I needed to be throughout the earlier stages of being here, and now is my time to play catch-up and throughout this year has been my time to play catch-up and make sure I'm on top of my things, continuing to get better where I want to be and what's up to my level and also the coaches' level of where I need to perform."

Translation: I had no idea how much I sucked and still do suck Ron Jeremy-calibre cock.

QUOTE
Manziel added that he's "still extremely hungry" and added that he was disappointed by his play coming out of the preseason. Manziel knows he had a chance to win the job out of camp, and he let the opportunity pass him by.

Opportunity walked by him a few times when he was on his way to the men's room to do more blow or off to party.  I'm a bit surprised the Jets didn't try to get him at the deadline.  As with the Jags-Tebow scenario.  In exchange for a loser player or two and draft picks NYJ would piss away anyhow, worst case: you sell more tickets and merch.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2014,19:42

(Malcolm @ Oct. 31 2014,12:49)
QUOTE
Last week was Run DMC + Megatron for Alfred Morris and V-Jax.  The dude getting Megatron is a contender and the dude letting him go is just plain stupid.  That trade went through because of some perceived "apathy."  I guess not enough people voted to veto it, the commish (also a contender) wanted it vetoed, and he didn't get enough support.  He's the one bitching about me sending Cam and getting Brandon.  Other league, half the teams burst their manginas when someone traded Russell Wilson for Garcon.

Yep.  Requested the trade canceled.  Tired of convincing the commish that Brandon Marshall isn't the dude from 2-3 years ago.

Me
QUOTE
Trading a WR3/flex (Marshall's #25 right now) for a QB2 is lopsided? I got crap WRs. Tony's got no backup QB if Luck gets unlucky. Cam Newton beats Austin Davis and other waiver wire fodder if that happens, and Tony's still got the other, better Chicago WR.


Commish
QUOTE
You don't have to have a backup when you've got a stud. I'm rolling the dice with A-Rod right now (eww can't believe I called him that) so I have to get through this bye week with Alex Smith. Sure if Rodgers goes down I'm fucked, but that's my gamble. It makes zero sense to me to trade for a one week plug in when you are giving up a starter. Don't hand me that bs that he's a wr 3. You can't say that with a straight face. Ranked 25th... so one spot from wr 2. Sorry, horrible trade on Tony's part. Great trade for you. Very lopsided indeed.


Me
QUOTE
Cam's got a wuss schedule the rest of the season. He IS that team's offense. They have one of the shittiest RB platoons in the league. He leads their rushing. There's a 90% chance he's getting a part of every TD over there. Also, I'd like to note I had him backing up Russell Wilson the entire year. Finally, for all anyone knows, Tony intends to trade him to someone else looking for a QB. Maybe that dude couldn't trade with me because he didn't have a WR to give up. Maybe Tony's planning on dealing Newton for someone else. Maybe he wants to stash him and trade next season. He can make his own decisions. How long have you been playing in this league with him?

Brandon Marshall is the old dude that hasn't scored since week 4. He's overshadowed by his far more talented WR partner. He's Isaac Bruce when Torry Holt was coming up. His schedule is not kind the remainder of the season. He's got Jay goddamn Cutler throwing to him. He's not exactly blowing up this year. 1 multi-TD game. 1 game with 100+ yards. 3 games with 5+ catches. Will I start him every week? Hell yes. Because compared to Crabtree and Decker, he looks golden and Cutler's still a notch throwing-wise above Kaep and Geno Vick.

Let's check who Tony might start before Marshall: TY Hilton, Andre Johnson, Alshon. Even if he's flexing a WR, Marshall's fighting with Andre Johnson for starts every week. Again, that's playing 3 WRs. You only need 2.

Somehow we've only got 3 teams with winning records right now, so the competition's tight and all that, but come on. One man's starter is another man's backup. Whether or not your star has a safety net and where it comes from is a preference. In terms of points scored, Cam and Brandon are roughly equivalent. Marshall's at best a low-end WR2. Cam's a low-end QB2. They've each got potential to hit QB1/WR1 respectively, but they aren't playing like it. Seriously dude, you have 3 WRs doing better or just as good as Brandon. Mike Wallace + Ryan Tannehill is outdoing Cutler + Marshall.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 31 2014,21:49
That's what i hate about fantasy in a nutshell.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 31 2014,22:43
Our F&F league has no trades. I'm starting to think it's the way to go.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 01 2014,05:10

(Leisher @ Nov. 01 2014,01:43)
QUOTE
Our F&F league has no trades. I'm starting to think it's the way to go.

I don't really like that either...
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2014,11:28

(TheCatt @ Nov. 01 2014,07:10)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Nov. 01 2014,01:43)
QUOTE
Our F&F league has no trades. I'm starting to think it's the way to go.

I don't really like that either...

Yeah, fuck that.  This is the commish being pissed because one of the two teams he think he'll be playing in the championship scored a trade rape a week or two ago because not enough people vetoed it.  Additionally...

Commish
QUOTE
No where in that long winded speech did you convince me.


Stats = long-winded speeches.

Can't believe this is the second league with a trade scandal involving the commish.  In the other one, the commish was accused of shoving through a Garcon-for-Wilson trade before enough people had a chance to vote on it.  What the fuck is in the air this year?



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2014,10:53
I had no idea sanchez was at the eagles.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2014,12:17
Redskins - Vikings - Officials fucked up two interception calls, and now the hit on RG3 (which should not have been called).

They're almost as bad as the Vikes' coach.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2014,17:21

(TheCatt @ Nov. 02 2014,14:17)
QUOTE
Redskins - Vikings - Officials fucked up two interception calls, and now the hit on RG3 (which should not have been called).

They're almost as bad as the Vikes' coach.

Complete and total bullshit.
.
.
.
.
No one's that bad.

Keeper PPR: benching Decker and playing Hawkins plus Russell Wilson choking today is going to cost me the game unless Torrey Smith does nothing (possible to likely) and Bradshaw has a very, very good day (possible but not likely).

Rams: Christ.  Anyone noticed they've beaten the Seahawks and Frisco?



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2014,18:24

(Malcolm @ Nov. 02 2014,20:21)
QUOTE
Rams: Christ.  Anyone noticed they've beaten the Seahawks and Frisco?

Next Skins game I am going to is St. Louis.  Don't really have a good feeling about it.

And I have no idea how to feel about the NFC West.  I get confused every time I try.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2014,19:33
It's like their offense blows, but they eek out wins against div opponents.  Defense is ok, but Long's gone now.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2014,19:38
Martavis Bryant ... outdoing Crabtree.  My luck with WEs  and Ks has been horrible this year.  And the cocksucker that did the Megatron deal is beating me with the WR I kicked last week, torrey fucking smith.  Fuck football this week.
Posted by Stranger on Nov. 03 2014,06:22
I think the best thing to happen to the Steelers season was getting their ass kicked by the Browns.. That really pissed them off. Glad Cleveland don't have to play them anymore this season.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2014,12:41
< Andre Johnson >: probably not ecstatic about his offensive role.

< Chip Kelly > thinks Sanchez is a QB.

< More RG3 >, more drama.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 03 2014,12:53
FUCK FANTASY FOOTBALL ARRGGG
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 03 2014,12:56
Sanchez certainly appeared to be more of a QB than Weeden.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2014,13:17

(TheCatt @ Nov. 03 2014,14:56)
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Sanchez certainly appeared to be more of a QB than Weeden.

Antwaan Randle-El is a better QB than Weeden.  Completion percentage is probably higher.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2014,21:38
Keeper PPR: Lost to the second biggest douche in the league.  Fuck.  Ah well, still ahead in my div.

Standard: Edged out the league #1 by 13 points or so.  Luck, Gronk, Miami, Al Morris, and even Larry D chipped in.  Total points from WR: 6.2.  I have the #1 QB, RB, TE, and D.  Still tied for #1 in div.

catt league: If I'd picked up Charles Clay instead of Clay Harbor, I'd have won.  I'm more or less fucked here for the rest of the year.  But considering it's the only free league, eh.  Last pick in the draft wasn't nearly as bad as the injury daemon visiting me.  Repeatedly.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 04 2014,03:48
Heh... Vinatieri scored as many points for me as Eli and Alfred Morris each did.  Nice.
And just managed to squeak by Andrew Luck on the other team in 2nd league.
3rd league is an abortion and all my players died.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 04 2014,06:11
Moved to 7-2 in my F&F league and first overall.

Middle of the pack in my work league.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2014,07:25
QUOTE
Can't believe this is the second league with a trade scandal involving the commish.  In the other one, the commish was accused of shoving through a Garcon-for-Wilson trade before enough people had a chance to vote on it.  What the fuck is in the air this year?

After all his bitching, after I voted against my own trade and told him the other guy wanted out, he still let it go through.  Wtf?

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2014,08:05
Need a flex: Martavis Bryant at NYJ or Crabtree at New Orleans?  Thinking Bryant because Pittsburgh's passing game is on a roll and the Jets aren't stopping them.  Kaep didn't break 250 yards passing against the Rams and he's not a TD machine, either.  Big Ben currently is.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 04 2014,09:09
< AP not going to jail. >
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 04 2014,09:11
I think Kaep is the most overrated QB in the NFL right now.

Big Ben should destroy that terrible Jets secondary, but remember the Steelers like to play down to their opponents.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2014,09:19

(Leisher @ Nov. 04 2014,11:09)
QUOTE
< AP not going to jail. >

So both Ray and Adrian get less jail time than me?  Oh yeah, awesome system of justice this country has.

In the NFC South, the top team has a .500 record.  In the AFC North, the bottom team has a better than .500 record.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2014,11:15
< Fitzpatrick >: out.

< Greg Hardy >: out and then some.

< Jets fans > getting restless.

< Ray Farmer > is mentally incompetent.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 05 2014,12:30
< #cowboysuk >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2014,13:14
< Carlos Hyde's future > looks a bit brighter.


Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 05 2014,15:11
Poor Lattimore.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2014,17:19
Fuckload of careers ending prematurely this year.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 05 2014,18:59
Imagine if he had been able to go the NFL earlier though, instead of having to wait.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2014,07:30

(TheCatt @ Nov. 05 2014,20:59)
QUOTE
Imagine if he had been able to go the NFL earlier though, instead of having to wait.

Would've blown out his knees for way more money.

And hey, looks like we play each other this week.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 06 2014,07:38
Between injuries and bye week, I'm going to need a lot of luck.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2014,08:29
Bengals and Browns playing tonight.  The loser has to watch Johnny Clipboard and Justin Bieber reenact a scene from Brokeback Mountain.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2014,10:47
Someone in my league has bailed.  I don't suppose anyone wants to take on a sub .500 team's management responsibilities?
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 06 2014,10:50

(Malcolm @ Nov. 06 2014,13:47)
QUOTE
Someone in my league has bailed.  I don't suppose anyone wants to take on a sub .500 team's management responsibilities?

Admittedly, that matches my job description from all existing leagues that I'm in... but no.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 06 2014,11:22
Yeah like I need one more league to lose in each week. I'm on the worst streak ever in FF, like 6 losses in a row in both leagues.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2014,11:46

(Troy @ Nov. 06 2014,13:22)
QUOTE
Yeah like I need one more league to lose in each week. I'm on the worst streak ever in FF, like 6 losses in a row in both leagues.

I'd do it myself but he's in my div.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 06 2014,13:03
I would take care of it for you, but I barely remember to do my work league one every week.

The only one I really ever focus on is the F&F one. That's the one for the big money and bragging rights within my offline social circle.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2014,19:57
Tonight in my fantasy leagues...

catt league:
Terrrence West finally scored a TD/near fumble after Tate and Crowell both getting carries make it a Cereberus committee of mediocrity.

EDIT: As I type this, West is featured on a series and gashes 3-5 yards a carry.

standard league:
Dished Steve Jackson for Keenan Allen.  Rivers doesn't throw against Miami's D every week.  Leaves me with Fred Jackson, Al Morris, and DeMarco as viable options going forward.  Rainey, too, if he proves not to suck and Tampa can ever run the ball.  But if Denard Robinson can make it work for Jacksonville, anything's possible.



Posted by Stranger on Nov. 06 2014,20:40
Dalton's QB rating, 2.0


Bengals...Got...Rekt!!

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2014,20:43
Cleveland won.  But they needed two quarterbacks to do it.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 06 2014,21:25
Pros, I started the Browns Defense
Cons, I started Andy Dalton

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 07 2014,07:23
< Jeremy Hill wasn't impressed. >

Funniest part of the night was post game when Deon Sanders said Hoyer should be a $100 million guy.

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 07 2014,07:45
QUOTE
Funniest part of the night was post game when Deon Sanders said Hoyer should be a $100 million guy.


That was more of a jab at Dalton if anything. He said he couldn't tell who was the $100 million QB out there, and if Dalton is making that then Cleveland should "pay the man".  I don't think you will see Cleveland throwing $100 million at Hoyer, but I'm leaning towards they should pay the man.  He's only 9-3 as a starter, what more could you ask for.  Honestly just trade Johnny now, or tell him he's gonna sit for the next 3-5 yrs and deal with it.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 07 2014,08:38
QUOTE
Honestly just trade Johnny now, or tell him he's gonna sit for the next 3-5 yrs and deal with it.

Trade deadline is gone but I wouldn't be shocked with an offseason move.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 07 2014,10:03
If they traded him to a CFL team, I'd buy a Browns t-shirt.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 07 2014,10:07
The AFC North won the divisional lottery this year.  Playing both the AFC South AND the NFC South.  Bunch of free wins there.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 09 2014,00:13
< Hilarious parody. >
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 09 2014,17:09
How about Marshawn Lynch, eh Malcolm?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2014,17:57

(TheCatt @ Nov. 09 2014,19:09)
QUOTE
How about Marshawn Lynch, eh Malcolm?

He's kicking ass in my keeper league.  I am, however, going 1-2 (maybe) because most everyone I put in did nothing or less than nothing.  Playing against Lynch in two leagues doesn't help.

catt league:
QB Carson Palmer, 7
RB Bobby Rainey, 5
RB Terrance West, 15
WR A.J. Green, 2
WR Antonio Brown, 3
TE Owen Daniels, 2
FLEX Martavis Bryant, 20
D/ST Cowboys 11
K Justin Tucker, Bal 3

Lost.

Keeper:
Wilson, Lynch, Martavis, and Arizona's D are keeping me in it.  Brandon Marshall + Darrey Sproles vs Sanchez + Richard Rodgers (the composer?), and Jordan Matthews.  I'm up by about 35.  Could win if Brandon or Darrey has a respectable game. Assholes not chipping in?  Eric Decker and Owen Daniels.

Standard non-keeper:
QB Ben Roethlisberger, 13.7
RB DeMarco Murray, 13.1
RB Bobby Rainey, 5.6
WR Allen Robinson, 8
WR Justin Hunter, 1.7
TE Larry Donnell, 2.6
FLEX Mike Wallace, 11.1
D/ST Dolphins 6
K Chandler Catanzaro, 8

Opponent has two players to go and he's up by at least 40.  Just fuck me.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 09 2014,18:07
It was a pretty low scoring week so far across the board.

I'm looking at 1-1 right now, with the other league decided tomorrow.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2014,18:44
I'm slated to get 150 in keeper PPR.  One of the other contenders is going to pass 200.  Additionally, I'm taking over managerial duties for the team whose owner bailed due to various bullshit.  Same div.  No one objected.  Going to be interesting.  Come on, Cutler, throw, throw, throw.  Richard Rodgers ain't going to do shit on Green Bay's end unless the Bears wake up.  Awesome.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2014,20:49
Brandon Marshall had the best game of his season thus far.  Then promptly had some asshole tackle him by the ankle and take him out in the fourth quarter.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 10 2014,02:50
Cursed season continues. Fuck you Aaron rodgers.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2014,08:47
< Mike Wallace > is pissed.

< Mike Vick > does a 180 from what he said earlier this season.

< Bruce Arians > has been hitting the peyote out in ol' AZ.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 10 2014,10:18
Hey man, that other backup QB from MSU took the Redskins to the... oh, wait.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2014,11:52

(Malcolm @ Nov. 10 2014,10:47)
QUOTE
< Bruce Arians > has been hitting the peyote out in ol' AZ.

< Palmer tears ACL, > yes that one.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 10 2014,13:12
Michael Vick is an idiot. That bullshit proves he is not a leader and why he's never won shit.

I realize he was the better option than Geno Smith, but the Jets had to find out. Better to be a losing team testing out a potential franchise QB than winning a few games, but still being irrelevant, using a washed up QB.

On a different note, I called the Jets over the Steelers. That's classic Mike Tomlin right there.

I also got lucky and grabbed Martavis Bryant for this week as T.Y Hilton was on a bye. He went off for 24 points and I'll move to 8-2 in my F&F league. Even if I flame out in the playoffs, I made a respectable run as defending champ.

That's great because I'm tanking in my work league. 4-5 and about to lose again. My RBs there are dumpster fires: Stacy, Asiata, Martin, and Greene.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2014,13:23
QUOTE
I also got lucky and grabbed Martavis Bryant...

I'm hoping he develops into a quality WR.  Nabbed him for cheap.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2014,18:28
Darrey!  Darrey!  Hopefully this boosts his trade value.  Just way too much separation in the divs this season in keeper PPR.  Not enough competition, not enough people who give a fuck, not enough dudes who'll unload a decent WR for him.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2014,18:51
Damn.  Cam Newton looks so bad, he's like an anorexic JaMarcus Russell.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 10 2014,23:32
He's hurt. Our tackles are beyond bad. Something like 9 sacks this game?, Newton literally looks up, and then gets hit. I'm not saying Newton would be a superstar without it, but he looked good in the first few games before the hits started to wear him down, especially the last few games.

Each game he gets hurts worse. Newton has some work and development to do, but this is on the Panthers as an organization for not replacing any talent we lost on our offensive line. I think we are the only team starting 4 UDFAs on the line. it's nuts.

It's not an injury situation either, we planned to go into this season with the two tackles that played last night.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 11 2014,06:53
Cleveland Browns: 11-5.  I'm calling it now.  Division winner on the line against the Ravens, last game of season, and the Browns win.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 11 2014,06:57
QUOTE
The difference between this quarterback situation and Palmer/Stanton is this: Nick Foles wasn't playing well when he got hurt. And Sanchez has some natural talent that might have been obscured by the Jets' tire fire. The 2014 Eagles are a better team with Sanchez

< From here. >

Bold statement.

I picked him up in keeper league, to go into my ever rotating cast of crap for QBs.  He certainly did better than E Manning, Hoyer, or Orton.  We'll see if that keeps up, especially once Hoyer gets Gordon back.



Posted by Stranger on Nov. 11 2014,08:11

(TheCatt @ Nov. 11 2014,09:53)
QUOTE
Cleveland Browns: 11-5.  I'm calling it now.  Division winner on the line against the Ravens, last game of season, and the Browns win.

WOW!! I love your bold prediction Catt!  Not even I am ballsy enough to make that call, but I love it!

The schedule is looking kindly in their favor, but 4 of the last 6 games are on the road.  They must win the final games vs their division and beat the AFC teams for any potential tie breakers.  

Browns fans are feeling confident, but still the talk in town is Manziel vs Hoyer.  Does Hoyer get the contract.. Does the owner want Manziel playing.. ect.. CMON! we are off to the best start in 19 years and this is what people want to talk about?! So wish Manziel was never drafted, I think he's got potential but I liked Hoyer from the little bit I've saw of him and he's performing with the huge distraction of Manziel and without 3 pro-bowlers on offense.

Catt.. I hope to GOD you are right.  Its been a LOOOOONG time since we've had anything to cheer about.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2014,08:38
QUOTE
And Sanchez has some natural talent that might have been obscured by the Jets...



QUOTE
...but still the talk in town is Manziel vs Hoyer

You're fist-fucking me.  There's talk?  Name any Browns QB in the last thirty years not named Kosar that's done better than Hoyer.

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 11 2014,08:47
QUOTE
Name any Browns QB in the last thirty years not named Kosar that's done better than Hoyer.


There is none.  There has only been 2 years with remotely decent QB play since then.  1994, Vinny Testicle-squirty, and a flash in the pan pro-bowl year by Derek Anderson in 2007.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2014,09:19
< Jay Gruden > ... just, Jesus.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2014,19:20
Trade deadline time in a couple days in standard league.  Trying to unload Larry D.  Got a single top 20 WR.  #1 QB, RB, TE, and another RB1 to boot.  Still can't catch the fucker in first.  Always one game ahead.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2014,07:51
< Steve Smith > takes a vacation.

< Frisco got screwedFuck the Saints >.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 12 2014,08:17

(Malcolm @ Nov. 12 2014,10:51)
QUOTE
< Frisco got screwed >.

Frisco didn't get screwed, they made the offensive pass interference call.

The guy got called.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2014,08:28

(TheCatt @ Nov. 12 2014,10:17)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Nov. 12 2014,10:51)
QUOTE
< Frisco got screwed >.

Frisco didn't get screwed, they made the offensive pass interference call.

The guy got called.

Fixed.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2014,10:57

(Malcolm @ Nov. 10 2014,10:47)
QUOTE
< Mike Vick > does a 180 from what he said earlier this season.

< Washed up vet agrees > with washed up vet.  They'd probably be doing better if they dumped your ass, CJ, and went with Ivory.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 12 2014,11:16
The Jets win a game that Pittsburgh basically handed to them, and people think the world has changed.

Talk to me in 2 weeks.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2014,21:49
Cool thing about my keeper PPR league is the trade deadline is a week later than most folks.  Want to trade Sproles for a WR1-/WR2+.  Will complement Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, and Martavis Bryant.  Will have Danger Russ, Lynch, Bradshaw, and Gronk with my WR corp.  Leading my div and got someone 1 game behind me.

Standard league:
All kinds of deals flying this week.  In addition to the Larry D trade, Fred Jackson sent for Brandon LaFell.  Trying to unload Big Ben + Andre Johnson for Justin Forsett.  Luck is back this week., DeMarco on bye.  6-4 but 8 goddamn teams have a shot at the championship, so I think I'm in as long as I don't suck too hard.  Also have Gronk and Al Morris here.

catt league:
Fucked.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,08:51

(TheCatt @ Nov. 11 2014,09:53)
QUOTE
Cleveland Browns: 11-5.  I'm calling it now.  Division winner on the line against the Ravens, last game of season, and the Browns win.

Anyone want to bet on this?  I take 11-5 and over..
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,09:36
The Browns finishing a minimum of 11-5 AND winning the div?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,09:43
Riding the Andrew Hawkins train for one more week against the 32nd ranked pass D in the league.  Watch Darrey Sproles explode because I benched him.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,10:28

(Malcolm @ Nov. 16 2014,12:36)
QUOTE
The Browns finishing a minimum of 11-5 AND winning the div?

Yes... although the way this game is going, I might be wrong already :)

Meeting one condition, but not both, would be a push.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,10:33
RG3: 3 completions to his own team.  2 completions to the other team.  1TD pass.  to the wrong team.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,10:57
Rams: temporarily leading Denver by 10 points.  Tre Mason is gashing Denver's run D.  Kenny Britt burned their secondary for a 63-yard score.

Peyton: 12/20 for 112, spread among half a dozen different wideouts.
CJ Anderson: sucking donkey dick.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,11:10
Need Matt Asiata to vulture some goal line TDs.  Lacy and Jamaal are being bitches.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,11:12
< Browns currently being given 21% chance of winning divison, 35% chance of making playoffs, and 9 wins. >


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,11:19
Wow.  Nice, one Isaiah.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,12:39
Fuck you, Browns.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,12:46
QUOTE
Fuck you, Browns.

That bet still on the table?

Vikings suck more than I thought.  Can't even ring up Chicago's D.

Hoyer's been shut down by Houston.  He plays just well enough to keep the Manziel whispers to a minimal level.

WTF is up with the Rams?  They're going to end up beating both teams from last year's Super Bowl unless Denver's D comes up with a takeaway.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,12:59

(Malcolm @ Nov. 16 2014,15:46)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Fuck you, Browns.

That bet still on the table?

Uh, no.
QUOTE
WTF is up with the Rams?  They're going to end up beating both teams from last year's Super Bowl unless Denver's D comes up with a takeaway.

Don't know.  Just don't know.

And the Redskins...

And the sad, sad NFC South.

And all my sad fantasy teams.

And Eli Fucking Manning.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,13:02
Oh Panthers.  Wow, just wow.
Posted by Stranger on Nov. 16 2014,13:10
Such a frustrating team these Browns are...
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,13:11
I want the odds on every NFC South team having a negative record.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 16 2014,13:36
Panthers get in range of a long 45 game winning field goal. Minute and a half on the clock.

Play calling shuts down, no real attempt to get any further or drain more clock. Miss the long field goal. To that point on the drive they had been moving it easily.

yet another reason Rivera and co. should be fired.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,14:00

(Troy @ Nov. 16 2014,16:36)
QUOTE
Panthers get in range of a long 45 game winning field goal. Minute and a half on the clock.

Play calling shuts down, no real attempt to get any further or drain more clock. Miss the long field goal. To that point on the drive they had been moving it easily.

yet another reason Rivera and co. should be fired.

Srsly.  That was pathetic.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,17:38
Fantasy updates.

catt league:
Yet again, I pick the wrong side of the coin in the Kelvin/DeAndre flip.  AJ Green, Al Blue are keeping me in it.  Should have it won.  Coby Fleener, Tony Brown, and Bradshaw versus the other dude's Gronk (which makes the other two leagues even more interesting).

Standard league:
Fucked.  Matt Asiata, Brandin Cooks, and Mike Wallace all sucked.  Fuck my WRs.

Keeper league:
In a strange turn of events, my regular team is playing the team I'm co-managing due to the original owner bailing.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2014,17:48
I think I've given up on all my fantasy leagues.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,18:54
Probably making postseason in both pay leagues.  Doubt I'll get the first round bye.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 16 2014,20:57
< Some Bears fans are morons. >

< Funny Bears memes. >

I agree. < This is the cheap shot of the year. >

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 17 2014,05:48

(Leisher @ Nov. 16 2014,23:57)
QUOTE
I agree. < This is the cheap shot of the year. >

Douche move.

< About as douchey as this guy >

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2014,07:30
QUOTE
This is the cheap shot of the year.

Is there a site with a less obnoxious advert in front of the real vid I want to see or can someone describe the hit?

And ... FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK, Bradshaw breaks his ankle.  How many fucking injuries do I get this year?



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2014,08:03
< Mike Zimmer > hates time.

< Rammed. >  If Tre learns how to catch passes, he'll be the first real RB that team's had in awhile.  Of note: two offensive powerhouses, Indy and Denver, got run the fuck over this weekend by teams not known for running you over.

< RG3 > continues his baffling media conferences.
QUOTE
"If you want to look at the good teams in this league and the great quarterbacks, the Peytons (Manning) and the Aaron Rodgers, those guys don't play well if their guys don't play well," Griffin said.

That applies to great QBs, not you.  Average and below average players need to step the fuck up or lose their starting jobs.  Then again, Kirk Cousins being your backup is a good indicator that you've not got any competition until a move is made.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2014,08:40
Also on the list of players Malcolm owns that broke something this week: < goddamnit >.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 17 2014,10:07

(Malcolm @ Nov. 17 2014,10:30)
QUOTE
QUOTE
This is the cheap shot of the year.

Is there a site with a less obnoxious advert in front of the real vid I want to see or can someone describe the hit?

Advert?

Adblock Plus.  I didnt see an ad.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2014,10:57

(TheCatt @ Nov. 17 2014,12:07)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Nov. 17 2014,10:30)
QUOTE
QUOTE
This is the cheap shot of the year.

Is there a site with a less obnoxious advert in front of the real vid I want to see or can someone describe the hit?

Advert?

Adblock Plus.  I didnt see an ad.

Site refuses to let me view the vid without a "fuck you" 30-second advert showing beforehand.  Fuck that shit.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2014,13:07

(Malcolm @ Nov. 17 2014,10:03)
QUOTE
< RG3 > continues his baffling media conferences.
QUOTE
"If you want to look at the good teams in this league and the great quarterbacks, the Peytons (Manning) and the Aaron Rodgers, those guys don't play well if their guys don't play well," Griffin said.

That applies to great QBs, not you.  Average and below average players need to step the fuck up or lose their starting jobs.  Then again, Kirk Cousins being your backup is a good indicator that you've not got any competition until a move is made.

< Jay Gruden responds >.
QUOTE
"Robert had some fundamental flaws," Gruden said.
...
"So, from his basic performance just critiquing Robert, it's not even close to good enough to what we expect from the quarterback position."
...
"First of all, Robert needs to understand he needs to worry about himself No. 1 and not everybody else," Gruden said. "... It's my job to worry about everybody else. Yes, everybody else needs to improve, but it's not his place. His place is to talk about himself and he knows that. He just elaborated a little too much and he'll learn from it. He's 24 years old."

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 17 2014,18:33
Col McCoy: (Combined 9-10 opponents)
Sun 10/19 Tennessee W 19 - 17
Mon 10/27 @ Dallas W 20 - 17

RG3:  (Against combined 6-14 opponents)
Sun 11/2 @ Minnesota L 26 - 29
Sun 11/16 Tampa Bay L 7 - 27

The Redskins are not a great team.  RG3 appears on his way to become the next Barry Foster or Greg Cook.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 17 2014,19:02
If the Steelers lose tonight, they will have lost the most games in which they were favored by more than 3 since 2012... tied with Detroit.

QUOTE
Long before pop singer Justin Bieber “jinxed” the Pittsburgh Steelers by attending the team’s Bible study on the eve of the team’s upset loss to the New York Jets on Nov. 9, coach Mike Tomlin’s Steelers were dropping games they expected to easily win. Since the 2012 season, the Steelers have lost an AFC-leading seven games when favored by more than three points and their .533 winning percentage in those games is the third-worst in the NFL over that same span. It is probably the biggest reason the Steelers could miss the postseason for the third season in a row.

Only the Detroit Lions have disappointed their fans more than Pittsburgh, dropping eight of the 14 games they’ve been favored by more than three points over the past three seasons, according to point-spread database Spreadapedia. Entering Week 11, NFL teams since the start of the 2012 season were 316-103 when favored by more than a field goal (.749 winning percentage).

The Steelers’ loss to the New York Jets in Week 10 as 4.5-point favorites was the second time this season that Pittsburgh lost a game that looked like a sure win on paper. They also fell at home to the then-winless Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Week 4. If they merely performed as the oddsmakers expected in these games, they’d be an AFC North-leading 8-2 heading into Monday night’s game in Tennessee. Instead, the Steelers are 6-4 but sportsbooks still have made them six-point favorites on the road against the 2-7 Titans.

In each of the past two seasons, the Titans have beaten a heavily-favored Steelers team.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2014,19:05
< Holy shit >.  Really?  "Straps on that boy?"  70 yards and a score?

Also pulled off a win in the catt league, despite having two players go for 0 points or less.

Standard league:
Leading in points scored by 80 over my the 2nd closest team.  How's that translate success-wise?  3rd shittiest in points against and some-fucking-how 3rd in my div, barely above .500.  The fucking hell?

Keeper league:
My regular team keeps winning due to relatively low points against and somehow having a couple offensive pistons always firing.

Sproles underperforms, Pierre Thomas is hurt and part of a share, Bradshaw's hurt, Woodhead's been hurt.  My bench has Darrey and Tre Mason fighting for starts alongside Beast Mode now.  Wideouts?  Suck.  Decker was my best until I traded cheap for Brandon Marshall, who's saved my ass the past couple weeks.  Maybe Cecil Shorts (III, motherfuckers) can step up in Jackoffsonville.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 17 2014,20:53
I had both starting RBs on a bye, Sanders went down, Brees decided to take a week off at home (which he's done once now...), and somehow I only lost by 3 in my F&F league. He won on Antonio Brown's TD.

What pisses me off is I almost picked up Gray Sunday morning, and instead picked up DeAngelo Williams. I would have won easily with Gray.

What will be funny is watching guys scramble to grab him this week on waivers and then watching Belicheck promptly bench him for the rest of the season.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 18 2014,06:45
< Blount is made about his playing time. >

This is your fourth team. You're playing behind a guy who is in the conversation for "best back in the NFL". What do you expect?

If a player leaves the game early of his own free will or otherwise refuses to play, the organization should be allowed to not pay that player for the game.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2014,08:03
QUOTE
What will be funny is watching guys scramble to grab him this week on waivers and then watching Belicheck promptly bench him for the rest of the season.

I love one-shot players like that.  Someone always pisses away major dollars.

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 18 2014,08:19
< http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news....94b7c0a >

Well, Ben Tate opened his mouth about not liking his playing time with the other two RB's and promptly got cut.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2014,08:25
< Peterson >, gone for the rest of the season.

QUOTE
Well, Ben Tate opened his mouth about not liking his playing time with the other two RB's and promptly got cut.

HAH.  Nice one, Tate.  Makes my life easier.

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 18 2014,08:28
Colts just lost Bradshaw for the season, I expect him to go there and team up with another ex-Brown RB.. Cleveland plays the Colts in 3 weeks, could be fun to watch..

Except for the fact that Cleveland can't stop the run for shit!  Might be a good day for them RBs to get redemption against us

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2014,08:36
Ah, T-bitch.  Almost considered him for a handcuff pickup.  Almost.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2014,10:49
QUOTE
Blount is made about his playing time.

< Blount blunted >.

< Opinion > on Goodell.

< Cribbs > is back ... for Indy.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 18 2014,13:16
I doubt the Steelers will grab Tate since they dumped Blount for the same thing.

Today must be "Dump your whiny bitch day" in the NFL as the Panthers cut Jason Avant after he criticized the play calling.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2014,13:20

(Leisher @ Nov. 18 2014,15:16)
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I doubt the Steelers will grab Tate since they dumped Blount for the same thing.

I'm looking straight at the Raiders.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2014,20:52
PPR: got golden Tate for crabby and sproles.  Thank Christ.  A legit second WR.  Only took 11 weeks.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 19 2014,06:13
< This guy says the RG3 era is over. >
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2014,07:09

(Leisher @ Nov. 19 2014,09:13)
QUOTE
< This guy says the RG3 era is over. >

Hard to argue with right now.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2014,07:43
Cousins looks worse.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2014,10:49
Colt McCoy!
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 19 2014,11:08
Now you sound like Stranger.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 19 2014,11:20

(Leisher @ Nov. 19 2014,14:08)
QUOTE
Now you sound like Stranger.

We've both been through some rough stuff, NFL-wise.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2014,11:20

(Leisher @ Nov. 19 2014,13:08)
QUOTE
Now you sound like Stranger.

The Insane-O-Meter needle isn't buried nearly deep enough.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2014,17:58

(Stranger @ Nov. 18 2014,10:19)
QUOTE
< http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news....94b7c0a >

Well, Ben Tate opened his mouth about not liking his playing time with the other two RB's and promptly got cut.

< Reemployed >.
Posted by Stranger on Nov. 20 2014,04:52
I looked into our FF league stats this morning and its funny how lucky you really gotta be to win, for example:

- I'm the second highest scoring team in the league and only 2 points away from being the highest, yet my record is 6-5.  I've outscored my opponents by 134 points.

- While being in the middle of the pack in scoring, Leisher has the lowest points against him (stout defense!). The next closest opponent is 30 points away from having the lowest score against.  Hence the 8-3 record.

-  One guy in our league has scored only three total points less than Leisher, but the poor bastard has had almost 200 more points scored against him than Leisher has!  His record is 3-8

Still I have a chance to win my division, huge game against the division leader this weekend.  And if I do make the playoffs..

I'M NOT SCARED OF YOU LEISHER!! BRING IT!!

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 20 2014,05:45
I already beat you three weeks ago without Bernard and Gronk. Plus, I had Brees on the road! I ain't scart!

FF takes knowledge and a good strategy during the draft. You have to know exactly what type of team you're building. It also takes a lot of research and experience to make solid educated guesses about who is worth grabbing off the waiver wire and who to start each week.

After that, it's all luck.

If you go back and look, I was sitting at 5-1 and was the lowest scoring team in the league, and then went on a scoring spree. I got beat this week by 3 points and had Sanders not gotten hurt I probably would have won. Or if I had listened to my gut and grabbed Gray instead of Williams.

That would have clinched me the division, a first round bye, and at least a tie for best regular season record.

Now I've got to fight for all that. Although, I'm 90% sure I've clinched a playoff berth.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 20 2014,05:56
So...
do I start Colts D vs Jacksonville... or KC's D against Oakland?

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 20 2014,06:05
QUOTE
I already beat you three weeks ago without Bernard and Gronk. Plus, I had Brees on the road! I ain't scart!


Oh, you mean the week I had 4 starters on a bye including the top scorer in the NFL and two starting receivers?  That week you tried to cock block me from getting a QB all while I was still under the assumption that we were paying for transactions?  :p

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 20 2014,06:45
QUOTE
That week you tried to cock block me from getting a QB all while I was still under the assumption that we were paying for transactions?


That's just fantasy skill. U mad bro?

QUOTE
So...
do I start Colts D vs Jacksonville... or KC's D against Oakland?


I don't think there's a wrong answer to that question.

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 20 2014,07:07

(Malcolm @ Nov. 19 2014,20:58)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Nov. 18 2014,10:19)
QUOTE
< http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news....94b7c0a >

Well, Ben Tate opened his mouth about not liking his playing time with the other two RB's and promptly got cut.

< Reemployed >.

Ben Tate shows some class..

< http://blacksportsonline.com/home....eveland >

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2014,07:57
QUOTE
KC's D against Oakland?

This.  The Indy D is less sure than KC.  Indy's offense is now a one-trick passing pony, as opposed to Oakland's offense.  That'd be a zero-trick pony.

QUOTE
Ben Tate shows some class..

< http://blacksportsonline.com/home....eveland >

Just saying what everyone's thinking.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 20 2014,08:05
I'm not a Cleveland fan, but fuck Ben Tate. The guy is clearly a cancer and every GM in the NFL knows it now.

Career backups should never shoot their mouths off.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2014,08:36
< Passing the Blount. >  Almost wanted the Vikings to get him, too.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 20 2014,17:17
Buffalo game delayed due to snow.

Pussies.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2014,22:09
Holy shit.  The Broncos are held to single digits by the Rams.  The Chiefs, who throttled the Rams, are taken down by Oakland for their first win.  What's the next impossible upset that happens?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2014,07:33
< AP v RR >: Don't put me in the same group as that asshole.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2014,09:11
< Hah >.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2014,14:00
< Sword of Damocles: now entering "dangle" mode >.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 21 2014,14:33
So.... Shanahan was right?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2014,15:25
< Perfect match >.  Player who can't catch signs with a team that can't throw.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 21 2014,16:35
So far, I'm glad I didn't start KC against Oakland.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2014,17:32
< Raiders head coach > decides that giving more playing time to the only RB who's shown any potential this season is unwarranted.  Yeah, I guess.  He should totally be splitting carries with Marcel Reece when he gets back, though.  Run DMC and MJD are fucking useless.  Even combined, they still suck.

< Seahawks passing game > is prepared to get stupid.  Not stupid good, just plain old, garden variety stupid.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 23 2014,14:57
The Vikes need to trade Patterson while he's still got value if they're not going to use him.

Tim Wright needs to stop vulturing Gronk's TDs.  

Keeper league: Need Decker, Mason, Danger Russ, and Lynch to step the fuck up.  Another pick six from Rivers wouldn't hurt.

Standard league: Going to be close, but only because my opponent started Vernon Davis and Carlos Hyde.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 23 2014,16:49
In my keeper league, I'm up 5, no one left.  He has Mario Williams, who averages 5 points a game.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 23 2014,17:11
Keeper: I'm up by 8 or so.  Decker and Justin Tucker for me versus Rashad Jennings and Sammy Watkins.

Standard: Down  by 18 because Tannehill connected with WRs who aren't Mike Wallace.  Then there's fucking Kennan Allen sitting on my bench.  Down to DeMarco Murray for me versus Torrey Smith.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 23 2014,17:12
My work league team is a dumpster fire. I think Matt Asiata is my best RB...

However, I've all but locked a win this week in my F&F league, which will put me at 9-3. (I'm up 30 or so with my QB, Brees, and a RB , Forsett, still to go, while he has a RB and a WR.)

I also am 5 teams into a 6 team parlay for $5 for $91. The Cowboys are the last team I need to win so I put $45 on the Giants +4 1/2.  :D

And how hated is Jones Gray this week? Didn't play because he showed up late to meetings, ouch!



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 23 2014,18:12
Amazing catch by Bechham... damn.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 23 2014,18:22

(TheCatt @ Nov. 23 2014,20:12)
QUOTE
Amazing catch by Bechham... damn.

Pissed that the best rookie WR I've landed is Martavis Bryant.  Almost had Kelvin.

Could use a couple fumbles from Jennings.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 23 2014,21:41
< Beckham's catch >

I'm going to win and the second place team in my division is going to win, plus I currently have the best record, so I think I locked my division and a first round bye today.

Bucks won yesterday, and I hit that parlay AND the safety bet.

Plus, the Steelers didn't lose.  :D  

Great football weekend.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,10:44
< Mallett hammered >.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,12:36
< Johnny Asshole > lives up to name.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 24 2014,16:40

(TheCatt @ Nov. 23 2014,19:49)
QUOTE
In my keeper league, I'm up 5, no one left.  He has Mario Williams, who averages 5 points a game.

Solo sack + solo tackle on this drive.  We're tied.

Time to throw in the towel on the league for this year and get ready for next year's draft :)

On the ESPN league I'm in with Malcolm, I can't even login.  So I'm guessing that isn't going well for me this week.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,17:32
QUOTE
On the ESPN league I'm in with Malcolm, I can't even login.  So I'm guessing that isn't going well for me this week.

Your balls are getting kicked in hard enough to fly out your mouth.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,18:40
Keeper PPR:
Down 4.8 points.  Still Decker (who may get a garbage time TD) and Tucker (still kicking for Baltimore) versus Sammy Watkins (can't imagine Buffalo throwing again).

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,19:40
1 more XP or FG.  Come the fuck on, Tucker.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,20:00
WOOHOO!
Posted by Stranger on Nov. 25 2014,07:41
The receivers I have on my bench are good enough to be a starting trio for just about every other team in our league.  I have to choose 3 starters among these 6 this week, Demaryius Thomas, Josh Gordon, Golden Tate, Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, and Steve Smith.  Oh what a dilemma.

My problem is RB where I've gotta pick 2 among Frank Gore, Terrance West, CJ Anderson, and Fred Jackson.  Anderson is a given and was a great free agent pickup for me, but the other one is not so easy.

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 25 2014,07:53
Also, going by total points scored, Leisher and I own 8 of the top 17 WR/TE in the league! And that doesn't even count Josh Gordon because of his suspension, he's easily a top ten point scorer.  We have a monopoly over the receivers and all the scraps have been left for the other 10 teams to fight over.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2014,07:56
Every auction league this season, I failed badly on WRs.  Killed on RBs, TEs, and QBs.

#1 record in keeper PPR at the moment.
#1 in points scored in standard league, but I'm at .500.  What the fucking fuck?
catt league: barely give a fuck anymore.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 25 2014,08:03
I honestly think I have the best receiving corp in our league this year: T.Y. Hilton, Gronk, Sanu, Sanders, and Bryant.

Yours are solid too, just a matter of figuring out matchups.

As for your RB, I'd go with Gore. West splits too many carries, and I swear Jackson has been in the league for 3 decades now.

I just checked and I did indeed clinch my division, a first round bye, and at least a tie for best record. All as a defending champ who accomplished all that last year! Even if I lose my first playoff game, I made a hell of a run defending my title. Woot!

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2014,08:22
I'm at 9-3 in keeper PPR, #1 in my div regardless of what happens next week.  Three other div teams are 8-4 and all of them beating me in total points, two of them enough to where I'm not catching up in one week.  I got a weak opponent next week.  I ought to win.  A couple of the 8-4 dudes play each other, so one of them is definitely 9-4 at the end.  Other 8-4 guy plays a crappy team, too, so he ought to win.

Standard league: still got 3 #1 position players.  Currently still in the winner's playoff bracket.  I really, really need to win this week, though.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 25 2014,09:28


This makes me happy.

The winner of this division could be 5-11.  (or, 5-10-1).  That would be awesome.  

< This would make Packers fans less happy though: >



Posted by Stranger on Nov. 25 2014,09:48

(TheCatt @ Nov. 25 2014,12:28)
QUOTE


This makes me happy.

The winner of this division could be 5-11.  (or, 5-10-1).  That would be awesome.  

< This would make Packers fans less happy though: >

...And one of those teams are going to have a home playoff game!!

meanwhile in the AFC north, for the first time in NFL history every team in the division is 3 games above .500

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 25 2014,10:09

(Stranger @ Nov. 25 2014,12:48)
QUOTE
meanwhile in the AFC north, for the first time in NFL history every team in the division is 3 games above .500

And yet, none of those teams will be in the AFC conference championship game.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 25 2014,10:20
Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

New England and the Patriots are one injury away from one and out. For the Patriots it's both Brady and Gronk. For the Broncos, if they lose Welker...  :D

Seriously though, I don't count anyone out. The regular season is bullshit when it comes to determining who will win the playoffs.
-The Steelers were the first #6 seed wildcard to play on the road at #3, #2, and #1 and beat them all. Then beat the #1 from the NFC.
-The Giants followed that up with almost the exact performance a year later.
-The Patriots have been the regular season champ for 5-6 of the last 7 years, and probably will be again, but have won zero Super Bowls in that time. And only played for 1 or 2.
-Manning is not a guarantee of playoff wins. His team was the #1 the Steelers beat in Indy.
-The Saints went to Seattle with a losing record and crushed them a few years ago.

There's a reason they play the games.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 25 2014,10:26
So... want to put some $ on that?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2014,10:51
QUOTE
For the Patriots it's both Brady and Gronk.

Gronk seems more valuable than Brady right now.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 25 2014,12:38

(TheCatt @ Nov. 25 2014,13:26)
QUOTE
So... want to put some $ on that?

I already do.
Posted by Stranger on Nov. 26 2014,06:28
RG3 benched for Colt McCoy.. This is just unfathomable as a Browns fan.  Just think, a few short years ago Cleveland was in trade talks with St. Louis in attempts to mortgage their future for this guy... In attempts to replace Colt McCoy!!!  Not one human on earth would have guessed this would happen 3 years ago.

I can't blame the Skins though, RG3 has alienated himself from the team and looks absolutely lost.  Colt never looked good while in Cleveland but maybe the change of scenery was a good for him.  I'm happy he's getting a shot over RG3.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 26 2014,07:58
< Jets back to original shitty QB >.

< Eagles totally have it together >.

< Kelvin's a bit jealous >.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 26 2014,08:22
My brother and I are going to the Rams/Skins game in 1.5 weeks.  I told him we'd probably be seeing McCoy, a few days ago.

McCoy also came in when we went to the Titans game.  So doesn't look like I'll get to see RG3 play at all in person this year.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 26 2014,11:43
< Jerry Jones > still believes.  If he has his way next year, he'll have RG3 and AP.  NFL fans from 2-3 years ago are in awe.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 28 2014,09:23
What I learned on Thanksgiving:

1) The Cowboys "defensive renaissance" is fucking over.
2) Kaep can't throw for shit.  He can't run anymore either.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 28 2014,12:20
QUOTE
Ray Rice has won his appeal against the NFL and is eligible to play immediately

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 28 2014,13:57
What team wants to sign him and deal with the PR nightmare?

Not to mention that he was washed up in Baltimore.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 28 2014,14:00
PR nightmare, you say?

Hmmm....


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2014,17:12
The raiders would.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 29 2014,18:57
Is any team so hard up for a RB that they'd sign a washed up Ray Rice knowing that women's groups will probably try to organize boycotts against them or their organizers?

It's not so much what he did, but we all saw it.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2014,19:09
Yes.  There are more than a couple teams in that category.  I don't know if any have the balls/stupidity to pull the trigger besides the Raiders.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 30 2014,10:27
Go Vikings, Steelers, Bengals, and Cardinals!
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2014,12:41
It's been a good week for FF so far.

Postseason in the catt league.  I'm in the loser bracket, but stomping the shit out of my opponent.  Hating that Hopkins is on my bench.

Standard:
Last regular season game.  I'll probably end up beating the #1 seed this week, which should lock me into the top playoff bracket with a rockin' 7-6 record.

Keeper PPR:
Currently up on my opponent by 100 points with Tre Mason and the St. Louis D leading the way.  That gets me a week 1 bye and top record in the league at 10-3.  Perhaps more importantly, Tre is involved in the passing game.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 30 2014,15:14
Mike Tomlin is the (to steal from Simmons) best worst coach in the NFL.

On the positive side, I clinched a win in my F&F league, which locks me for best regular season record at 10-3, a division win, and a first round bye.

Woot!

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 30 2014,15:23
Well Cleveland opened Pandora's box today.. Hoyer was playing pretty bad again, 5 picks now in the last two games and Johnny was put in..  He immediately went right down the field and scored a TD.  This wasn't in total garbage time because there was 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter and were still in it but albeit a long shot.  He didn't get on the field again until less than 3 minutes left in the game and there was a miscommunication and there was a bad snap, it should have been a TD by buffalo but the refs somehow ruled it a forward pass and called it incomplete.  At least the refs are on his side!!

All in all you saw what Johnny could do and what mistakes your gonna get.  Personally I think this is Hoyer's ticket out of town.  They took Johnny in the first round and he's gonna get his shot, any team would do the same.  I have no idea how to feel or what to think, but it should be a fun ride at the very least.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2014,15:34
Johnny will get kicked to the curb by the end of the season if he doesn't get some momentum going.  Cleveland isn't known for the stability of its QB position.

I have notched very strong wins in all FF leagues this week.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 30 2014,16:21
As someone in ESPN's live fan feed said: "Manziel scored a touchdown. Bad news for anything else worthy of being news on ESPN."

As of 7:21 p.m., Manziel playing is ESPN's top story...

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2014,17:59
At his next away game, all the fans should bring monopoly money and used tampons to throw at him.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2014,10:43
< Cops mad at Rams' > players for expressing their opinion.
QUOTE
The St. Louis Police Officers' Association said it was "profoundly disappointed" with what it called a "display that police officers around the nation found tasteless, offensive and inflammatory." It called for the players involved to be disciplined and for both the league and team to issue a "very public apology."

Fuck off.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 01 2014,12:02
The STL POA should have just shut the fuck up.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2014,21:24
The Jets are running the ol' Tebow play book, apparently ... minus the fact that their QB can't run.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 02 2014,09:22
Stranger stole the #2 seed in our F&F league so we're 1 and 2 and both on a bye this week.
Posted by Stranger on Dec. 02 2014,09:48

(Leisher @ Dec. 02 2014,12:22)
QUOTE
Stranger stole the #2 seed in our F&F league so we're 1 and 2 and both on a bye this week.

Highest scoring team in the league is hardly stealing the bye, I earned that shit rightfully so. I had a good draft and made some good free agent pickups throughout the year, even though I thought we were paying for transactions for the first half of the year.

Both our teams are very similar.  Elite QB's, best receiving cores, and decent RB's.  Hopefully I see you in the Fantasy Bowl!!

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 02 2014,10:10
QUOTE
Highest scoring team in the league is hardly stealing the bye, I earned that shit rightfully so.


I never said it wasn't earned, but you had to win your last 4 and have him lose the last game just to get the opportunity to beat him in a tiebreaker, which you did. Plus, I'm pretty sure he went into the Sunday night games tied.

He had that seed locked and blew it. Thus, you stole it.   :p

Posted by Stranger on Dec. 03 2014,09:37
< http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=40401 >

Looks like Cleveland is going to stick with Hoyer, for at least one more game.  Better not throw any incompletions Brian, because this crowd will turn on you in no time.  This is a fan base that has cheered as Tim Couch and Derek Anderson lay injured on the field, even made Tim cry once in a postgame interview.

The weight of the world is on Brian's shoulders and his leash is going to be short.  Good luck with that...

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2014,11:09
Only in Cleveland.

"Boo starting QB with a winning record. Hooray total unknown QB that happens to be a complete douche in real life."

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2014,11:22

(Leisher @ Dec. 03 2014,13:09)
QUOTE
Only in Cleveland.

"Boo starting QB with a winning record. Hooray total unknown QB that happens to be a complete douche in real life."

Hoyer's got a .667 win percentage.  Guess Browns fans just can't take winning.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 03 2014,11:24

(Malcolm @ Dec. 03 2014,14:22)
QUOTE
Hoyer's got a .667 win percentage.  Guess Browns fans just can't take winning.

Admittedly a new thing for them.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2014,11:48
< Dumb-ass sounds off >.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2014,13:18
Future Headline:

< Trent Richardson Stabbed By Browns Fan After TD >

< Michael Sam thinks he's not in the NFL because he's gay. >

Sorry Sam, but the SEC isn't known for defenses and college skills don't always translate to the NFL. Ask Archie Griffin.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2014,17:51
I'd think the Cleveland fans would give him a freebie score every game for getting the fuck out of there.

"We'll trade you a first round pick for Trent Richardson, but you have to let him have a touchdown at least once every time we play you.  We still think we're kind of getting shafted."



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 04 2014,07:54
< Browns playoff hopes tick up slightly >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 04 2014,08:27
< Jeff Fisher >: Yeah, I'd screw the Redskins again.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 04 2014,08:33
Standard league lineup question:

Need to start 2 WRs from ...

Jarvis Landry playing Baltimore (league's worst pass D)
Andre Johnson at Jacksonville
Stedman Bailey at Washington
Mike Wallace playing Baltimore

It's single elimination time, so things count.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 04 2014,13:30
< Do the Browns have a legal department? >

Perhaps it's a bit unwise to have the head coach egging fans on with vague statements...

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 04 2014,16:08
< Jay Gruden "done" with RG3 >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 04 2014,20:26
D.  Mark.  O.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 04 2014,21:57
QUOTE
Jarvis Landry playing Baltimore (league's worst pass D)
Andre Johnson at Jacksonville
Stedman Bailey at Washington
Mike Wallace playing Baltimore


I've never heard of Bailey.

Baltimore just lost a starting CB.

Jacksonville is Jacksonville.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 04 2014,22:11
Stedman Bailey is the current #1 St. Louis WR.  And it's Washington.

I might play both Miami WRs just to get whatever Tannehill throws.  DeMarco helped me with 28.8 points already.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 05 2014,06:16
< Hockey player plays the Cat Game. >

Atlanta Falcons safety did it first.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 05 2014,08:31
Leisher, can you put $10 on the Rams to beat the spread for me? :)
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 05 2014,10:06
Sure. You'll have to cover the juice as well ($1).

You want me to get on it now while the line is -3 or wait and see if it moves prior to kick?

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 05 2014,13:09

(Leisher @ Dec. 05 2014,13:06)
QUOTE
Sure. You'll have to cover the juice as well ($1).

You want me to get on it now while the line is -3 or wait and see if it moves prior to kick?

Oh, go ahead.  PayPal ok?
Posted by Troy on Dec. 05 2014,13:47
Some asshole tried to trade rape me, using what I can only assume is a time machine:



Tried to take my first running back worth a shit in 2 years, too. Big keeper leagues are a bitch to break into.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2014,14:23
1) Your trade deadline isn't past?
2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 05 2014,14:30
PayPal is fine. Bet will be placed when I get home.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 05 2014,16:30
1) There should be no trade deadlines in fantasy, cept maybe the playoffs.
2) Your league seems very penis-obsessed, Troy.
3) Money sent.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 05 2014,18:11
QUOTE
1) There should be no trade deadlines in fantasy, cept maybe the playoffs.

We do it to keep one team from getting loaded with someone's best non-keepers.

Also, with that weakling Marshall sidelined by a measly collapsed lung, I need a new WR to pair with Tate.  There's no one on the waivers better than my bench dudes.

Eric "FMQB" Decker
Martavis "where have all my TDs gone" Bryant
Cecil "Eat My" Shorts III
Andrew "Second Banana" Hawkins
Marquise "Jacksonville Pussy" Lee
Stedman "who the fuck is that" Bailey

Next week is brutal ...
Wilson and Lynch play Frisco
Tre Mason, Stedman, and the Rams play Arizona
Gronk plays Miami

It's down to Decker if NYJ's offense goes with Vick.  If Geno's starting, I'll be forced to go with Cecil or Marquise since they're going against the Ravens.

Week 16, if I get that far, my matchups aren't bad except for Wilson and Lynch at Arizona.

FMFFL



Posted by Stranger on Dec. 07 2014,09:38
You'll never hear me say this but once every 20 years or so but here it goes...

Go Steelers!

Yuck!! I've gotta go puke and wash my mouth now

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2014,10:34

(Stranger @ Dec. 07 2014,12:38)
QUOTE
I admit that I've been wrong for my whole life. I have a son to think about now, and I can't root for the Browns in front of him. I mean, it's the same as beating him or doing drugs in front of him. So, I've finally come to my senses...

Go Steelers!


:D

In other news, < Hoyer is most likely leaving. >



Posted by Stranger on Dec. 07 2014,11:18
That's a forgone conclusion. Everyone knew that last week


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2014,11:54
Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, and Johnny Manziel.  Those three names seem like they go together for some reason.
Posted by Stranger on Dec. 07 2014,11:58
They are winning in spite of Hoyer right now, not because of him. I think it's Johnny time.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2014,13:10
Steelers are delivering your wish.

Looks like I need to send Catt $10!

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2014,14:44

(Stranger @ Dec. 07 2014,13:58)
QUOTE
They are winning in spite of Hoyer right now, not because of him. I think it's Johnny time.

Why not?  The other two dozen QB changes before worked out great.

In other news:

Standard league playoffs, round 1: I'm eeking out a win because of the Rams defense.  Do not fuck with them.  Demarco, Luck, and the Rams are carrying me because Al Morris, Jarvis Landry, and Mike Wallace phoned it in.

Catt league: The second half of the two-week curbstomping continues.  Slated out outscore opponent by nearly 100 points.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2014,18:47

(Leisher @ Dec. 07 2014,16:10)
QUOTE
Steelers are delivering your wish.

Looks like I need to send Catt $10!

I guess that's the one bright side today.  Cuz damn it was painful to watch that game in person.

What got into the Panthers?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2014,20:24
God help me, with Harvin out,  I guess I'm going Decker to replace Marshall.  Just fuck.

Up by 30 points in the standard league playoffs.  Opponent has Randall Cobb.  Think I win.  That would make me, the #4 seed, the only favourite to win this week.  #1-3 all lost.



Posted by Stranger on Dec. 08 2014,05:35
completion percentage: 55%
TD's:  11
INT's:  12
Pass rating:  76.4

Does that look like starting QB numbers to you?  

Cleveland's defense played lights out yesterday and Hoyer in his biggest game absolutely shit down his leg.  It's time for Johnny

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,07:23

(Stranger @ Dec. 08 2014,07:35)
QUOTE
completion percentage: 55%
TD's:  11
INT's:  12
Pass rating:  76.4

I'll say it again:

Beats the fuck out of any Cleveland QB in recent memory not named Kosar.

Posted by Stranger on Dec. 08 2014,07:39
QUOTE
I'll say it again:

Beats the fuck out of any Cleveland QB in recent memory not named Kosar.



I 100% agree.  But the fact of the matter is he is statistically one of the worst QB's in the league.  All Hoyer had to do yesterday was play average and they win.  The defense dominated the best offense in the league for 4 turnovers and 2 TD's not much more you can ask for.

While I admire Coach's commitment to veterans that work hard, he blew it yesterday.  No guarantee that Manziel wins that game but he couldn't have done any worse.  He owed it to the rest of the team to give them a chance to win, you could see in the first quarter Hoyer was off his game, by far the worst he's ever played in Cleveland.  

Brian has succumb to the pressure and I really like the guy, I wish Johnny had his work ethic and maturity.  The fact of the matter is Johnny is a much better talent and gives the team other options.  Coach must not like Johnny because he's not showing that he wants the job, he's going to Cavs games in the middle of the week, partying and such. Hell, he didn't even show up to the game yesterday until 11am! only 2 hours before the game!!! Dude has had every opportunity to take over this team and he just refuses to grow the fuck up.  

Even after all that, you gotta put Johnny in. Its a bottom line league and bottom line is you gotta win, Johnny just gives them that more than Hoyer does right now.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 08 2014,07:49

(Stranger @ Dec. 08 2014,10:39)
QUOTE
QUOTE
I'll say it again:

Beats the fuck out of any Cleveland QB in recent memory not named Kosar.



I 100% agree.  But the fact of the matter is he is statistically one of the worst QB's in the league.  All Hoyer had to do yesterday was play average and they win.  The defense dominated the best offense in the league for 4 turnovers and 2 TD's not much more you can ask for.

Highest scoring? Yes.  Best? No.  Look at the shitty, shitty teams the Colts have been playing.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,08:56
< Stay classy, New Orleans >.  Fucking bitches.

< Jeff Fisher > has the last laugh.

< Raiders > hating on Frisco.  Tough talk coming from a team with, what, 2 wins?

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 08 2014,09:31
That's two class-less Saints' fans actions this year.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 08 2014,09:32
I saw the coin toss, but I was paying about zero attention to who was out there.  Touche, Jeff.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 08 2014,09:39
QUOTE
Cleveland's defense played lights out yesterday and Hoyer in his biggest game absolutely shit down his leg.  It's time for Johnny


That defense gave up the game winning TD. I'm not piling on, just pointing out that it's a team game.

I think Hoyer is just becoming a scapegoat, and honestly, we all knew this was going to happen. I think they should give up on the season now and just start Manziel. At least they can get an idea about his talent level and see if they need to go after another QB in the next draft.

You're NOT winning a Super Bowl, so why fight to get into the playoffs?

Personally, I think Manziel is a very talented player, but his ego and attitude are going to keep him from being great. I also still believe him to be a chucker who got helped out a LOT by Mike Evans at A&M, and by the fact that SEC defenses are vastly overrated.

QUOTE
Jeff Fisher has the last laugh.


Total low blow, but comedy gold. Love it. Snyder shouldn't look at it as an insult, but as a motivator to stop making stupid moves.

Look at the Buckeyes. Third string QB pastes the #2 ranked defense in college football (a fact NOBODY has brought up). These college systems are generating false stars. Sure, these kids have talent, but the system they're in is making them look like world beaters when they're not actually NFL good. Remember JaMarcus Russell? Remember RG III? Remember all the kids from every run and gun team that put up MASSSIVE numbers and never panned out in the NFL?

You don't trade 3 first round draft picks for a guy who thrived in a specific system.

QUOTE
Stay classy, New Orleans.  Fucking bitches.


I'm torn. Totally classless, but it was Cam Newton...

QUOTE
Raiders hating on Frisco.  Tough talk coming from a team with, what, 2 wins?


Yeah, but one of those came at the expense of the 49ers. I agree with him in a way. Kaep is overrated. Harbaugh is going to take all the blame for this season, but management and Kaep should take a lot of the blame too.

Posted by Stranger on Dec. 08 2014,10:02
QUOTE
You're NOT winning a Super Bowl, so why fight to get into the playoffs?


I'm sorry, we're not the Steelers and get into the playoffs every single year.  For Cleveland the playoffs ARE the Super Bowl.  The fans would just enjoy that so much.  

Remember, this was a team that some national publications were predicting 1 win before the season!! It has been a successful season so far if you look at it from that point, but losing a bunch of games at the end of the season would really undermine what little success they did have.

I disagree with your point of not trying for the playoffs.  By all means, they need to sell out no matter what to try and make the playoffs.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 08 2014,10:27
QUOTE
I'm sorry, we're not the Steelers and get into the playoffs every single year.


We don't make it every year.

I don't mean this is a bad way at all, but I find it interesting to see how different fan bases determine the success or failure of a season.

QUOTE
I disagree with your point of not trying for the playoffs.


I'd like to point out that you disagree with my point, but you're saying they should do exactly what I said.

I didn't say for them to tank games.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,10:46
QUOTE
I disagree with your point of not trying for the playoffs.  By all means, they need to sell out no matter what to try and make the playoffs.

"Alright, we need to be good enough to get a shot at championship game, but not good enough that we have a dog's chance in hell of winning it all."

Yeah, I want to play for that team.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 08 2014,10:47
I gave up on the Panthers and their playoff hopes a few weeks ago.

Now you are telling me if we win out we have a reasonable chance of hosting the Hawks at BOA for the Wildcard game?! madness

Also, the Saints are a horrid team and fanbase, Cam Newton is a REAL saint. Fuck the haters, i'm glad we turned their team into toilet paper for the day. I'm still scouring the internet for Kelvin's pancaking block and follow-up flying elbow on a DB during a run play. Loved every second of it, even with the penalty he got for it.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,10:54
"< Us lose?  That's unpossible. >"

- the NFC South's slogan



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 08 2014,11:31

(Malcolm @ Dec. 08 2014,13:46)
QUOTE
QUOTE
I disagree with your point of not trying for the playoffs.  By all means, they need to sell out no matter what to try and make the playoffs.

"Alright, we need to be good enough to get a shot at championship game, but not good enough that we have a dog's chance in hell of winning it all."

Yeah, I want to play for that team.

Well, in his defense I get what he's saying. It's been so long since they've done anything that even a single playoff game will renew the city's hope that they're on the path back.

I don't blame him.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,11:37
QUOTE
It's been so long since they've done anything that even a single playoff game will renew the city's hope that they're on the path back.

Being in the desert for years doesn't make one gallon of water a lake.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 08 2014,11:44

(Malcolm @ Dec. 08 2014,14:37)
QUOTE
QUOTE
It's been so long since they've done anything that even a single playoff game will renew the city's hope that they're on the path back.

Being in the desert for years doesn't make one gallon of water a lake.

No, but that'd be the greatest gallon of water in your lifetime.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,11:56

(Leisher @ Dec. 08 2014,13:44)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Dec. 08 2014,14:37)
QUOTE
QUOTE
It's been so long since they've done anything that even a single playoff game will renew the city's hope that they're on the path back.

Being in the desert for years doesn't make one gallon of water a lake.

No, but that'd be the greatest gallon of water in your lifetime.

Maybe you ought to work on leaving the desert instead of squeezing out the last vestiges of liquid in it.
Posted by Stranger on Dec. 08 2014,11:59
So Malcolm, you've never been satisfied with any season that the Vikings have ever played?  Seeing that anything less than a Super Bowl winning team is an utter disappointing failure, then your Vikings are no better than my Browns.

Sure glad I'm not as bitter towards everything as you are!



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,12:06
< London Fletcher > destroys his old boss.

< Burn >.
QUOTE
"Tell the Philadelphia police to put an ABP out. Sanchez is trying to impersonate a good quarterback," Bennett said, per USA Today's Jarrett Bell.


QUOTE
So Malcolm, you've never been satisfied with any season that the Vikings have ever played?

No, they've been playing like ass since that one season New Orleans beat them in the NFC championship.  Before then, they were also playing like ass.  I expect nothing less.

QUOTE
Seeing that anything less than a Super Bowl winning team is an utter disappointing failure

If your team isn't in it to win the trophy, then your team has already failed.

QUOTE
you're [sic] Vikings are no better than my Browns.

Not exactly.  

1) Our QB position is set, Teddy's got a year or so to prove himself.  No one's waiting in the wings if he slips up for a couple games.  
2) Our rookie QB isn't a tool of a player.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 08 2014,16:31
QUOTE
Why does Jim Haslett still have his job as a defensive coordinator after five years now of just ineptitude at the defensive coordinator position?

I've been saying this for a couple of years now.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,19:38
Wow.  Catt league is closer than I thought.  Going to edge out my opponent in a fucking barnburner.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 09 2014,06:07
< Marvin Lewis calls Manziel a midget. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2014,07:16

(Leisher @ Dec. 09 2014,08:07)
QUOTE
< Marvin Lewis calls Manziel a midget. >

What a fucking idiot.  He should've said "dwarf."  Maybe "hobbit."
Posted by Stranger on Dec. 09 2014,07:27
He IS an idiot! Now even if there were people in the Browns locker room that weren't on Johnny's side they are now.  That will be a rallying point for them, players don't like when a coach talks shit about another player.  When a player does it then so be it, he's gotta back it up on the field.  But a coach?.. I'm surprised by Marvin, he's usually a well spoken guy.

I hope the Browns name Johnny the starter today.  Can't wait to see him run right by coach Lewis and $$$ sign his ass.  He's a cocky shit, he'll do it too.  Should be good TV regardless

Posted by Stranger on Dec. 09 2014,07:30
Whats next? coach Pettine calls Andy Dalton a ginger?! LOL
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2014,08:43

(Stranger @ Dec. 09 2014,09:30)
QUOTE
Whats next? coach Pettine calls Andy Dalton a ginger?! LOL

He is.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 09 2014,09:42
< Awesome mic-ed up of JJ Watt. >

That is a man among boys.

In other news, I just saw a Tweet from ESPN saying Manziel will start this Sunday.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2014,10:50
< Person of the Year > candidate.  Wow.

< I want the koolaid > the NYJs are drinking.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 09 2014,11:07

(Malcolm @ Dec. 09 2014,13:50)
QUOTE
< Person of the Year > candidate.  Wow.

I thought it was established back when bin Laden won that title that it wasn't necessarily a good title to have. I thought it was more about them impacting the news that year.

I could be wrong though.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 09 2014,11:42
Cam was driving his gigantic black truck right outside BoA stadium. From the pictures, looks like a Buick pulled out in front of him.

Pretty decent accident, Cam's truck flipped a few times. Both car drivers taken to hospital.

I think Cam lucked out and didn't get any serious injuries, but I bet he's out for a game or two at least. He's lucky to not be more hurt.

< Truck >

< Cam >



Posted by Stranger on Dec. 09 2014,11:45
QUOTE
looks like a Buick pulled out in front of him.


Saints fan...

Posted by Troy on Dec. 09 2014,12:34
Cam has 2 back fractures, similar to Romo's injury.

Well, two, of Romo's injury.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 09 2014,15:48
< Saints fans cheer >

Troy already posted it... but...

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2014,21:58
< Marvin Lewis > keeps on going.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2014,07:53
< Julio > may be out next week.  That would be nothing but awesomeness for me as my chief competition in the keeper league has him and Megatron.  One of them needs to go down.

< Geno Smith > may be showing signs of dementia.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2014,10:58
< Washington > demonstrates their team unity.
Posted by Stranger on Dec. 10 2014,12:06
Cleveland TV station sends "little man" to Marvin Lewis' press conference today to ask some questions.

QUOTE
FOX 8 in Cleveland had an interesting response to Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis calling Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel a "midget."

Lewis made the remark on WLW Radio in Cincinnati on Monday night. On Wednesday, FOX 8 sent 4-foot-3 Cleveland celebrity "Lil' Jon" Rinaldi of "Big Chuck and Lil' Jon" to Lewis' press conference to ask him questions about Manziel.



Posted by Troy on Dec. 10 2014,12:41
Well played
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 11 2014,18:28
Since I need the Rams to do well in this game, I assume their D and Tre will suck.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,07:30
Dear god, that game was boring from a FF perspective.
Posted by Troy on Dec. 12 2014,07:39
My all star Cardinals defense giving the same quality points they've been putting up all year.

I'm only playing for consolation places, but I still applaud the effort.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 12 2014,08:18

(Malcolm @ Dec. 12 2014,10:30)
QUOTE
Dear god, that game was boring from a FF perspective.

It was equally boring the few minutes of TV I watched.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,08:48

(TheCatt @ Dec. 12 2014,10:18)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Dec. 12 2014,10:30)
QUOTE
Dear god, that game was boring from a FF perspective.

It was equally boring the few minutes of TV I watched.

Every game between two NFC West teams should be named the Three and Out Bowl.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,10:38
< Wow >.  Because politics totally isn't.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 12 2014,12:05
Fuck Obama. I guarantee he doesn't see the irony in his statements.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,12:20
QUOTE
The president said that one way that politicians differ from sports stars is that ultimately they shouldn’t see themselves as competing with each other. In politics, we forget that we’re all on one team,” said Obama. “The American team.”

Fucking wow.  Cubed.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 12 2014,13:38
Our team needs a new coaching staff.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,14:43

(Leisher @ Dec. 12 2014,15:38)
QUOTE
Our team needs a new coaching staff.

Hah.  B. Rock isn't even at a Rex Ryan level.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 13 2014,21:48
< Simmons' column this week starts off on the Redskins. >
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2014,06:00

(Leisher @ Dec. 14 2014,00:48)
QUOTE
< Simmons' column this week starts off on the Redskins. >

Sigh.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,11:08
If I survive either playoff game this week, it'll be a fucking miracle.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 14 2014,11:36
Ditto.

My team is under-performing at the moment.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 14 2014,12:55
ESPN's live feed said there were a bunch of these at the game today.




Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2014,13:39
Cin 30 Cle 0 - Manziel
Cle 24 Cin 3 - Hoyer

QUOTE

Cincinnati had 347 yards to Cleveland's 107. The Bengals picked up 24 first downs to five for the Browns, who went just 1 of 10 on third down.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2014,13:49
I'm in the consolation bracket.  Won first round.  Winning today with most points in the league, ahead by 70.  

WAY TO SHOW UP RETARDS.  :)

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,15:34
Where to begin...

Johnny Boyziel.

Johnny sure gave a spark to the offense.  The other team's.

#WreckMyTeam  -Johnny Turnover

QUOTE
Manziel's Total QBR of 1.0 was the lowest by any starting passer with at least 10 attempts in a game all season. Johnny Football's nightmare also tied for the lowest Total QBR in a debut over the past five seasons with -- wait for it -- former Browns first-round disaster Brandon Weeden.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,15:52

(Leisher @ Dec. 14 2014,13:36)
QUOTE
Ditto.

My team is under-performing at the moment.

Not checking any scores until all players are done, otherwise I will fucking obsess over the remaining games.

Keeper PPR:

All my opponent's players are done.  I've still got Decker, Tate, Lynch, and Wilson to go.  I'm not looking good. but his dudes aren't exactly blowing it up, either.  My biggest sin?  I normally login to tweek my lineup a few minutes before the first game to see who's hurt.  I neglected to note that Julio Jones wasn't playing, which means I left Harry Douglas on my bench and played Marquise goddamned Lee.  I get the feeling that will be the difference.  I'll check back after all the second-wave games are done.  I will be ever so pissed if I lose by less than the difference between Harry and Marquise.

Standard:

Opponent has Chris Ivory and Megatron still going.  I got Demarco going later on.  Both Mike Wallace and Jarvis Landry are on my bench.  FUCK FUCK FUCK.  The one game 60 Minutes finally goes over the 100-yard mark.

I cannot overemphasize how badly I picked my WRs this years in every league except the catt league.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,16:29
Will check on standard league after the late game.

Keeper PPR:

HOLY SHIT.  I won by 4.4 points.  Cracking the < ice wine >.  Last TD pass of Wilson's put me over the top.

Dudes that performed for me:
Lynch, Tate, Gronk, Decker, I'll even toss my kicker Tucker in there.  But most of all, I'd like to thank Johnny Suckfest for giving Smokin' Josh Gordon a bad day beyond all my expectations.  Figured my opponent would bury me with him.

Dudes that almost killed me:
Tre Mason, Marquise Lee.

Even better ... my opponent started Larry Donnell (3.1 points) at TE this week.  He dropped Charles Clay (11.something) for the Chiefs D (11 points), whom he started over Houston (17 points).  Good to know lineup mistakes aren't my exclusive domain.  In the championship next week against the #2 seed, packing Megatron.  Wilson and Lynch head to Arizona next week.  Just ouch.  The #2 seed is the dude that robbed someone blind of Megatron in the worst trade deal of the last decade.  So bad that it made it 90210-level drama trying to get any other trade through if it wasn't balanced on a pinhead.  The #2 was also so much of a dick that a 15-year league vet quit because he couldn't put up with his shit.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 14 2014,20:08
< Manziel/Cincinnati memes >

The first two are the best at that link.

FB is full of better ones.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,20:18
Seeing as how my opponent's done and there's half a quarter left, I check the score in the standard league...

.
.
.

Fucking win.  I can't believe it.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 14 2014,21:05
I've got a puncher's chance and that's about it.  

I've got Brees Monday night and I'm down 12 points.

He's got Colston and Forte.

Between Forsett, Stewart, Sanders, and Hilton I got 21 points. Not good.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,21:35
Forte's a worry.  Stills gets more looks than marques nowadays.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,21:38
#2 seed lost.  #3, the commish, beats him with demarco and dez.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,09:19
< More on Boyziel's playing >.
QUOTE
You quit on everything that we had done as a team, not Brian Hoyer, but what the team had done. That was a horrible coaching decision, so I can't blame it all on Johnny Manziel because Johnny Manziel wasn't ready to play. You know how I know? Mike Pettine told me so.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,10:54
< AP thing still going >.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 15 2014,11:18
Ray Rice knocked his wife out with two punches, then dragged her unconscious body around with zero remorse or regard.

AP was raised by old school parents.

Not sure why one is cleared to play and not the other.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,11:23

(Leisher @ Dec. 15 2014,13:18)
QUOTE
Ray Rice knocked his wife out with two punches, then dragged her unconscious body around with zero remorse or regard.

AP was raised by old school parents.

Not sure why one is cleared to play and not the other.

If AP's shit had come out before Ray Rice, AP would be playing right now.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,12:30
And DeMarco might be done due to a broken hand.  Fuck.  Guess I'm picking up Randle unless my opponent outbids me.


Posted by Leisher on Dec. 15 2014,20:42
I lost by three points. Fuck.

It was a good defense of my title though. Plus, I made money on the year.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2014,07:51
$44 left in the standard league and both my RBs (Al Morris and DeMarco) have injuries, DeMarco's probably out.

Free agent auction bids:
$20 on Joseph Randle
$20 on Lance Dunbar
$2 on Brandon Oliver
$2 on Silas Redd

Fuck me.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2014,09:43
< Kosar on Boyziel >.
Posted by Troy on Dec. 16 2014,11:10
You all and your fantasy playoffs are shit and terrible.

In happier news:



Awesome, totally worth it



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 16 2014,12:10
Manziel... Completing the Cleveland QB trifecta of 22nd place draft picks sucking ass.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 16 2014,13:27
< JOHNNY FOOTBALL! >

QUOTE
Manziel isn’t ready to play with patience in the pocket. Can he get there with experience? Maybe. But he has a lot to overcome to be a high-level NFL quarterback. He’s a small quarterback with average arm strength and almost no pocket skills and discipline at this point.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2014,14:25
I think Tebow's debut was better than Boyziel's.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2014,18:47
Wow.  In the last five minutes, ESPN has updated DeMarco from doubtful to questionable.  Still going to grab both Dunbar and Randle if I can.

Starting lineup in standard:
Luck
DeMarco, Al Morris/someone else
LaFell, Wallace
Gronk
Rams
Suisham
... and a flex: Jarvis Landry or Stedman Bailey ... leaning Bailey

Keeper PPR lineup:

Wilson
Lynch, Tre Mason
Tate, Stedman if Julio Jones plays, Harry Douglas otherwise
Gronk
Herron or Pierre Thomas if I get him from free agents
Rams
Mason Crosby

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2014,16:32
< Cutler benched. >

Few years too late there, Bears.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2014,17:48
QUOTE
Jay Cutler is owed $15.5 million next year, fully guaranteed. So someone is paying that...Nobody can be sure it's Chicago.

Him and Flacco.  Just wtf?  How'd they land those numbers?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 19 2014,09:25
< Jerry Jones >.  Just ... Jerry Jones.  How the fuck do you catch passes with the protective glove?  How do you stiff arm a dude to extend a run?


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2014,15:49
Fuck Darrel Young.  Those TDs belong to me and Al Morris.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2014,15:55

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2014,18:49)
QUOTE
Fuck Darrel Young.  Those TDs belong to me and Al Morris.

Ditto.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2014,16:26
Al might get a few runs in at the end and break one.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2014,16:30

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2014,18:26)
QUOTE
Al might get a few runs in at the end and break one.

Nope.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2014,16:37
Well that was unexpected.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2014,17:46
It's ironic that the NoMore.org commercials make me want to punch people more.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2014,10:57
Waiting until the second wave of games is done to check the standard league.  Either way, my membership fee for next year is paid for in both it and keeper PPR.  But damn, I'd really like that ~5 C-note dual championship purse.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2014,11:19
And Manziel is out.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 21 2014,11:41
That's bad news for Carolina. As bad as Hoyer was over the last 6 games he played, Manziel has been a whole new level of bad.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2014,12:39

(Leisher @ Dec. 21 2014,14:41)
QUOTE
That's bad news for Carolina. As bad as Hoyer was over the last 6 games he played, Manziel has been a whole new level of bad.

That's what I was thinking.  Sure enough, Cleveland is winning now.  Went from 10-3 to 10-13.  Although, still anyone's game.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2014,12:53
Bad day to be a Browns' QB.

And barring a miracle in NO, we've got a lock on a losing team to win the division!



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2014,14:32

(TheCatt @ Dec. 21 2014,14:53)
QUOTE
Bad day to be a Browns' QB.

Yeah, but at least the better QB is in there.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2014,14:45

(Malcolm @ Dec. 21 2014,17:32)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Dec. 21 2014,14:53)
QUOTE
Bad day to be a Browns' QB.

Yeah, but at least the better QB is in there.

He nearly got knocked out of the game when I posted that.  Browns had to take a time out for him to get his bearings back.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2014,16:55
Absolutely got destroyed in standard league.  Fucking Andrew Luck and Beckham.

Keeper PPR: Lynch and Wilson have to combine for more than 46 points against Arizona.  At fucking Arizona.  Just goddamnit.  Fuck football.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2014,18:40
AZ briefly trots out their 4th string QB...
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2014,19:39
Poor Cardinals.  I feel so sorry for them.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2014,20:08
QUOTE
Keeper PPR: Lynch and Wilson have to combine for more than 46 points against Arizona.  At fucking Arizona.  Just goddamnit.  Fuck football.

Whoa.  2.3 points behind.  11:59 to go.  C'mon Lynch.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2014,20:14
FUCKING YES.  79 sweet yards and a TD.  Wilson and Lynch clinched it.  Tre Mason and Gronk also contributed.  Lost standard and won keeper PPR.  I'll take that trade.


Posted by Leisher on Dec. 22 2014,10:40
Congrats!
Posted by Troy on Dec. 22 2014,10:47
Did you win your league? That's awesome.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 23 2014,04:59
< Manziel out.  Grossman turns down Browns. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 23 2014,09:23
Remember when the Browns had to choose between which kick-ass QB they were starting?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2014,08:54
< $11K fine immortalized >.

< Browns >: we're preparing for another season of failures at QB.  We did nothing wrong.  They just haven't matured yet.

< Frank Gore: > QB guru.

< Arizona > stares down the barrel of a one-and-done.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2014,12:07
< Browns start rookie >.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2014,13:54
< Deja vu >.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 27 2014,17:48
I like how Manziel gave everyone the big speech about growing up and then pulled this stunt.

Reminds me of the saying:
"You can take the girl out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the girl."

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 28 2014,09:03
< Detroit area bar makes a huge bet on the Packers. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,09:08
QUOTE
As Breer notes, Gordon missing his 11th game will keep the wideout from accruing a season toward free agency -- players must play in six games to earn a year of eligibility toward becoming a free agent.

Hah.

QUOTE
As for Johnny Football, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported that Manziel was fined for being late to medical treatment, per a Browns source.

Yeah, but he was such a bargain at the draft.  It'd be better if he gave a fuck about getting better and preparing for next year.  Total bargain, though.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,09:12

(Leisher @ Dec. 28 2014,11:03)
QUOTE
< Detroit area bar makes a huge bet on the Packers. >

QUOTE
A shot of Johnny Walker Blue at The Pour House is $30, and there are craft beers that cost as much as $23.

Johnny Blue also costs $150-200 per bottle, so that's not surprising.  A 25 oz. stein of craft beer for $23 is outrageous.  This particular pub chain has a branch in Minneapolis, and I think one of the Vikings got arrested for DUI after leaving a few months ago.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 28 2014,09:55
< Manziel IS a team leader. >

The douche legend grows...

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,10:17
QUOTE
Manziel, whose unapologetic stance about his offseason partying raised questions about his commitment, said this week he wants to be "the guy" for the Browns, who traded up in the first round to select the former Heisman Trophy winner in May's draft.

Every team needs a beer/water/gatorade guy.  Didn't Jimmy Haslam clinch his Manziel draft decision when a hobo came up to him on the street and implored him to do so?  That Teddy Bridgewater pick is looking less and less crazy everyday.

QUOTE
Gordon also was late getting onto the practice field Friday and emerged from the team's facility for the outdoor workout wearing teammate Travis Benjamin's jersey.

It was the best disguise he could come up with.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,10:29
< From the department of the obvious >...
QUOTE
The Giants are almost a lock to keep Tom Coughlin in 2015, and the coach might have Odell Beckham to thank for it.

Might?

< RG3's public tongue lashing >.
QUOTE
"That's never going to happen again -- my quarterback taking a six-yard loss when he could throw it away," Gruden said, in front of a room of RGIII's peers.

"Yes, sir," replied Griffin.

It did happen, however. Often.

Critiquing Griffin in private didn't seem to work, so Gruden took it public -- for better or worse.


< Are you > personnel-oriented?  The Jets want you.



Posted by Troy on Dec. 28 2014,11:15
Headed to the GA dome right now. Win or the season is over!!!

Feeling good, gotta contain that passing attack though. Cam and Charles Johnson will beast in their home towns.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2014,11:57

(Troy @ Dec. 28 2014,14:15)
QUOTE
Headed to the GA dome right now. Win or the season is over!!!

Feeling good, gotta contain that passing attack though. Cam and Charles Johnson will beast in their home towns.

WOOOO!
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 28 2014,12:01
If Baltimore loses to Cleveland today they should fold the franchise or let that Harbaugh go to Michigan.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2014,12:10

(Leisher @ Dec. 28 2014,15:01)
QUOTE
If Baltimore loses to Cleveland today they should fold the franchise or let that Harbaugh go to Michigan.

LOL.

And wtf is up with Tampa?  You have one job today: TO LOSE.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,12:40
Naturally, Decker has his best game of the season after mine ends.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2014,13:18
< Tampa Bay half-time speech: Remember to lose, dumb asses. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,14:34
Carolina: "We're not dead yet."  Also, the Rams are shutting the Seahawks out in Seattle for at least half a game.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2014,14:59
GO PANTHERS!
Posted by Troy on Dec. 28 2014,15:16
Things going better than anticipated here.....
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,15:21

(Leisher @ Dec. 28 2014,11:03)
QUOTE
< Detroit area bar makes a huge bet on the Packers. >

Rodgers playing with calf injury.  14-14 with half of the 3rd to go.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 28 2014,15:45
Goodbye Mike Smith.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 28 2014,17:24
Andre Johnson is right about JJ Watt needing to be the NFL MVP. This guy is a once in a lifetime kind of player. He's an unstoppable force that other players voted as the best defensive player in the league. He has 20 sacks each of the last two years. That's never been done. He plays on offense. He has more defensive TDs than entire teams.

The NFL needs to show that players other than QBs, RBs, and WRs matter or why should the fans care.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2014,17:29

(Leisher @ Dec. 28 2014,20:24)
QUOTE
Andre Johnson is right about JJ Watt needing to be the NFL MVP. This guy is a once in a lifetime kind of player. He's an unstoppable force that other players voted as the best defensive player in the league. He has 20 sacks each of the last two years. That's never been done. He plays on offense. He has more defensive TDs than entire teams.

The NFL needs to show that players other than QBs, RBs, and WRs matter or why should the fans care.

Him, or Murray.  Both of those players make their teams so much better than they would be otherwise.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,17:51
QUOTE
He has more defensive TDs than entire teams.

He's caught more TD passes than all KC WRs combined.  Course, I'm tied with KC's WRs.  If we're talking "valuable" then I have to go JJ.  If Murray's gone, they've got Dez.  If JJ's gone, the Texans have no superstar or spark plug on D.



Posted by Troy on Dec. 28 2014,19:18
I think JJ's chances are strong. I don't think anyone can ignore him single-handedly winning games anymore.

Panther/Cardinals now the early Saturday game!



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2014,19:21

(Troy @ Dec. 28 2014,22:18)
QUOTE
I think JJ's chances are strong. I don't think anyone can ignore him single-handedly winning games anymore.

Panther/Cardinals now the early Saturday game!

Go Panthers!
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2014,19:38

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2014,16:48)
QUOTE
< Bold predictions. >
QUOTE

Drew Brees will break Peyton Manning's yardage record, and 6,000 is possible
Robert Griffin III will be a top 10 quarterback
The Ravens will have offensive problems
Peyton Manning won’t throw 50 touchdowns again … or 40, either
The Broncos will beat the Seahawks in Seattle
Trent Richardson will be a 1,000-yard back
Cam Newton's contract extension talks will get ugly
Calvin Johnson won't be the best receiver in his division. It won't be Jordy Nelson or Brandon Marshall, either [Alshon Jeffery]
Josh Gordon will play this season
The NFL will announce the Raiders are moving back to Los Angeles


Sure hope he's right about RG3.

Well, he sure wasn't right about RG3.
Drew Brees got around 5,000 yards.
Peyton manning, 39 TDs.
Ravens did have offensive problems.
Seahawks beat Broncos.
Richardson - 519 yards
Newton - No idea.  I don't remember hearing about it getting ugly.
Based on yards, Jordy Nelson had the best NFC North WR year.(1,433; with 13 TDs).  Next up in the division was Golden Tate at 1,286, 4 TDs; then Randall Cobb - 1,207 and 10 TDs.  Alshon Jefferey was 4th.
NFL banned teams from moving to LA.
Josh gordon did play.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2014,19:42

(Leisher @ Sep. 12 2014,11:34)
QUOTE
The Steelers have done a lot of dumb deals/extensions over the past few years trying to keep this core together. I love the players for their contributions, but it's time to move on from them. They should have done it this year.

Start the rebuilding years now. Hell, I'd even be open to trading Ben away for draft picks. You telling me St. Louis wouldn't give us a bunch of picks right now for him?

Give me a year or two of sucking rather than 5 years of "ok, but not good enough to win the whole thing" teams.

I want a rebuilding year like the Steelers are having.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,19:56
QUOTE
NFL banned teams from moving to LA.

When did they do this?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2014,20:49

(Leisher @ Dec. 28 2014,11:55)
QUOTE
< Manziel IS a team leader. >

The douche legend grows...

< Haslam speaks >.  Again, said the man who listens to homeless dudes for drafting advice.

QUOTE
With a 2014 draft class loaded with talent and making immediate impacts across the league, Pettine and Farmer will ultimately bear the responsibility for Manziel and Gilbert, especially when the Browns could have walked away with -- pick a name -- Odell Beckham and Kelvin Benjamin.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 29 2014,02:40

(Malcolm @ Dec. 28 2014,22:56)
QUOTE
QUOTE
NFL banned teams from moving to LA.

When did they do this?

Maybe banned was too strong of a word, but < I swear I read that word in an article title. >

QUOTE
Things looked hopeful for fans earlier this year after commissioner Roger Goodell stated he would like to see a team in Los Angeles. But any sense of optimism was deflated last week after reports surfaced that Goodell told teams interested in relocating that there would be no moves made in the 2015 season.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 29 2014,09:01
< Manziel > predicts his future.
QUOTE
Manziel apologized to the team, veterans, etc. "Either i'm going to learn or I'm going to be finding something else to do"

Bets on which one?


"My QB wants to party all the time, party all the time, party all the ti-i-me."



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 29 2014,10:33
< Trestman and GM > gone from Chicago.

< Dirtiest player in NFL > makes another dirty play.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 29 2014,11:31

(Leisher @ Dec. 28 2014,17:45)
QUOTE
Goodbye Mike Smith.

< Tanked? >
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 29 2014,12:20
My quote was about Mike Smith, former coach of the Atlanta Falcons, not Lovie Smith current coach of the clearly tanking Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

But I understand your confusion as they look like twins.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 29 2014,12:32
Yeah Lovie Smith probably got mad props for that. They almost lost the #1 pick before he snipped the brake lines at half time.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 29 2014,12:49

(Leisher @ Dec. 29 2014,14:20)
QUOTE
My quote was about Mike Smith, former coach of the Atlanta Falcons, not Lovie Smith current coach of the clearly tanking Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

But I understand your confusion as they look like twins.

One shitty team's coach looks pretty much like another shitty team's coach.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 29 2014,12:51
"Mr. Smith, were you tanking in that game?"

"No."

"But you were punting on first down."

"Alright, you want the truth? Fuck yeah we were tanking! We need that #1 pick. Bitch, you see how many people are getting fired tomorrow? They call it Black Monday because it's an annual thing. This is my job! It's my life! What the fuck am I going to do without the NFL? Greet motherfuckers at Walmart!? A coach is as good as his QB, and have you seen the disasters on this roster? I'm a dead man walking with these bums! Fuck them! I need Marriota or Winston and I pray whoever we get is decent. Even if they're not, they'll buy me two more years of job security at a minimum!"

"But don't you owe it to the players to win?"

"You think the players don't want a better QB? You think they want to bust ass on defense so some scrub can go 3 and out in the next series? You think those WRs want to linger in mediocrity? You think they know fantasy players don't want their asses because there's nobody to throw them the ball? Ask Andre Johnson how that's worked out for him or ask Larry Fitzgerald how much fun it is playing for a clown car of QBs! Truth is, we have to pretend that we want to win every game, and if this was college football, we would care. However, this is a business and tanking happens. It's a tool to protect yourself and insure your future. If you think otherwise, I've got a bridge to sell you."

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 29 2014,12:51

(Malcolm @ Dec. 29 2014,12:33)
QUOTE
< Dirtiest player in NFL > makes another dirty play.

< Suspended > for one game.  Hopefully they lose due to bad run and pass rush D.  They need to jettison this fucker during the off-season.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 29 2014,16:07
I was watching that game with my FIL.  Suh did what he could to make it look unintentional, but it still looked intentional to me.  He clearly knew he was stepping on something other than ground, yet had no issues with his gait or balance, and was able to step pretty smoothly.  In my experience, you're a little surprised when the ground under one foot is 6" higher than under the other foot.

Tampa should have tanked.  The season was (is) over, look at the future.  I wish the Redskins had tanked a bit more.

< Bills need a QB. >  Good for him.

Brady restructured his contract for more cap room next year (boo).~

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 29 2014,17:50


Or, the Bills.

Or, the Browns.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 29 2014,19:14
QUOTE
Brady restructured his contract for more cap room next year (boo).~


He does that everyone year, and they always go out and sign tons of big name free agen...wait...

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2014,11:39
< Hey Browns >, you draft QBs like the old WB network used to greenlight shows.  Are you ready to continue the running gag that is your search for someone who can consistently keep the turnover to TD ratio to ... let's be optimistic ... two to one?

Browns: Two words, Malcolm.  "Fuck" and "yes."



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 30 2014,12:11
< Steelers grabbed Tate just in case Bell can't go. >

I look for Ben to be given the opportunity to throw another 6 TD game. Without Bell, and even with a limited Bell, I think the Steelers will ask Ben and Brown to win this game against a suspect Ravens secondary.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 30 2014,12:45
Broadcasters using the word < Redskins less frequently. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2014,15:06

(Malcolm @ Dec. 29 2014,14:51)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Dec. 29 2014,12:33)
QUOTE
< Dirtiest player in NFL > makes another dirty play.

< Suspended > for one game.  Hopefully they lose due to bad run and pass rush D.  They need to jettison this fucker during the off-season.

< Fucker > won his appeal.  $70K fine, no suspension.  Fuck Suh.

QUOTE
According to NFL Media's Judy Battista, Suh was considered a first-time offender by the repeat offender policy, modified in 2014. Since the Detroit defender went 32 straight games without a player-safety violation, which includes the postseason and preseason, he earned a clean slate.

You're shitting me.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 30 2014,15:32
One the one hand, I want him punished. On the other hand, I want Dallas to lose.

OK, kidding aside, the banned should have stayed.  And preseason games are meaningless, and shouldn't count towards good behavior.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 30 2014,18:39
< Ryan interviewing with 49ers and Falcons. >

Maybe he is interested in being Redskins' D coordinator?

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 31 2014,10:08
< Haslett gone. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 02 2015,07:31
< Hoyer welcome > to compete again.
QUOTE
If Hoyer firmly believes he can beat out Manziel for a second time, though, Browns general manager Ray Farmer will keep the door open.

Hell, beat out Boyziel?  Spiking the ball every down would be an improvement.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2015,17:36
Arizona should have forfeited the season when Palmer got hurt.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2015,19:13
Steelers offense looks bad without Bell.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2015,19:56
Baltimore's secondary has stepped up.  And say goodnight, Gracie.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2015,20:10

(Leisher @ Jan. 03 2015,22:13)
QUOTE
Steelers offense looks bad without Bell.

Feels like watching old people play.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2015,20:11
Bruce does not look comfortable throwing the ball.

*edit* Annnd... interception.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2015,20:25

(TheCatt @ Jan. 03 2015,22:10)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Jan. 03 2015,22:13)
QUOTE
Steelers offense looks bad without Bell.

Feels like watching old people play.

Old people drop things less often.  They look like they're handless.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2015,14:11
That was what, a 99.75 yard drive?  I mean that ball was 6 inches from the goal line max.
Posted by Troy on Jan. 04 2015,14:26
Need the boys to win. Would rather go to Seattle then GB.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2015,16:13
That pick-up-the-flag on the pass interference was some serious BULLSHIT.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 04 2015,16:15

(TheCatt @ Jan. 04 2015,18:13)
QUOTE
That pick-up-the-flag on the pass interference was some serious BULLSHIT.

I can't believe that.  Defender didn't even swing his head around to find the ball.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2015,16:22
Such fucking bullshit now.  Refs are sucking donkey.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 04 2015,16:57
< John Harbaugh > suffers concussion before press conference.  Either that or he's mixing meds.
QUOTE
That's Joe Flacco. He is the best quarterback in football.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2015,17:44
He's a good quarterback.  He's a better than average quarterback.  But I'd still rather have Brady, Luck, Brees, Rodgers, Manning, or Rothleishebrehbsberger.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 04 2015,19:13
If I were looking to the future, I'd take Luck or Wilson right now.  Luck's making Boom Herron look like a real RB and Wilson almost makes me believe Seattle has a receiving corps.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 04 2015,20:00

(TheCatt @ Jan. 04 2015,18:22)
QUOTE
Such fucking bullshit now.  Refs are sucking donkey.

< A few takes >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2015,07:37
< Ref tries to explain his fuck up >.  Badly.
QUOTE
"The back judge threw his flag for defensive pass interference," Morelli told Archer, via a pool report released by the Cowboys. "We got other information from another official from a different angle that thought the contact was minimal and didn't warrant pass interference."
...
Morelli went on to reassert that the official with the better view of the play was Bergman.

Fucking bullshit.  It doesn't matter what angle you view it from, the defender wasn't playing the ball.  His head isn't going to magically swivel if you look at it from the side.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 05 2015,08:31
I get the anger, but at the same time, did you watch the OSU-Alabama game? I realize there might be different rules, but when the Buckeyes made the long throw on 1st down with 2 minutes to go that went incomplete it looked exactly like this play. The defender's back was to the ball, he made contact with the receiver, the receiver tried to make the play through him, etc. In the end, there was no flag.

Meanwhile, this was being passed around among my Lion fan friends last night: < NFL ref official partying with Cowboys. >

They tried to make it seem like it just happened, but this was a long time ago. Still...

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2015,08:39
I'll grant defensive pass interference is overcalled, but that was dpi.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2015,08:47
< Rams > double down on their bluff.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 05 2015,09:49

(Malcolm @ Jan. 05 2015,11:39)
QUOTE
I'll grant defensive pass interference is overcalled, but that was dpi.

I agree, and it should have been in the Buckeyes game as it would have ended the game and Bama would never have been able to throw a hail mary (not that it worked).

Still I get the anger. Had OSU lost on that hail mary, I'd have been screaming about the no call.

Reminds me of the Miami-OSU championship game from 2002. Miami fans STILL try to argue there was no penalty on that 4th down. It's arm chair officiating at its finest, and it really cracks me up when they say, "I know an official who says it was bullshit." No you don't because that call was voted as one of the top 5 calls of the decade by officials. They also don't bring up how OSU completed a pass late in the 4th that was ruled incomplete, yet replays showed it was a legit catch. That catch would have given them a first down and the ability to either run out the clock or drop it to seconds left. Instead the clock was stopped and Miami got the ball back with enough time for their game tying drive.

Had Detroit scored to go ahead instead of failing, we wouldn't be talking about that blown call, but instead about Lawrence and the moronic decision to try and run with that fumble instead of falling on it. That guy has no idea how lucky he is that his team won.

They were showing Leon Lett to showcase his blunder!

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2015,10:35
QUOTE
but instead about Lawrence and the moronic decision to try and run with that fumble instead of falling on it.

Dumb-ass should still be running laps for that.

Posted by Stranger on Jan. 05 2015,10:46
I think that everyone is making a big stink about it because the PI was actually called, and announced to the stadium and then reversed, with no explanation whatsoever!  I've watched a lot of football, but I've never seen a flag picked up after the call was announced on the field.  Maybe they throw a flag and then talk it over and pick it up, but not after it was announced by the head referee.  If they would have never made the call in the first place it would be a non story and just another blown call that happens in every game.  

Also, these refs aren't the same team of refs that work together for the regular season.  The NFL puts together a so called all-star team of refs for the playoff games, so none of these guys have worked together at all.  So obviously, one ref didn't trust the call of another ref and overruled him.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2015,10:57
QUOTE
The NFL puts together a so called all-star team of refs for the playoff games, so none of these guys have worked together at all.  So obviously, one ref didn't trust the call of another ref and overruled him.

That is indeed a rule, and it's retarded.  Every aspect of that call was handled badly.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2015,12:52
< Lions: > signing assholes is one of our top priorities.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2015,07:49
< Hah >.

< Bears > thinking about playing Shanahan roulette.

< Lions > make contradictory, baffling comments.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2015,16:37
< Redskins get new GM >

QUOTE
The Washington Redskins were intent on upgrading their front office this offseason, and they now have signed one of the NFL's stronger talent evaluators to be their next general manager.

According to NFL Network, McCloughan will take over the GM role for the Redskins after his successful talent hauls with the San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks.

Encouraging.

QUOTE
McCloughan stepped down last April from his post with the Seahawks because of some personal issues, and did the same previously with the 49ers. He spent five years with the 49ers from 2005-2009 and three with the Seahawks from 2010.

In a piece on ESPN.com, McCloughan's battles with alcohol abuse were well detailed, as was his desire to get back into the NFL this year.

Hmmm...

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 06 2015,17:25
ESPN did an article about him this year (or Grantland...). Anyway, he's supposed to be the best talent evaluator out there. He just has a problem with the booze.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2015,17:47
Lords knows we need to learn to evaluate talent.  20 years of shit.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 07 2015,12:18
< Kaep > studies with Warner.
QUOTE
NFL Media's Kurt Warner, who is part of Dennis Gile's EXOS Phoenix-based sports performance crew, will assist Kaepernick in 7-on-7 drills and other mental parts of the game
...
His previous "projects" include Tim Tebow and Christian Ponder

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 07 2015,13:06
I was sold on that first sentence, then horrified by the second...
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2015,08:20
< Because everyone else > has an opinion.

< Zombie signed > to Chiefs.

< T-Bitch > slips on the depth chart.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 08 2015,08:48
I both like and hate Obama's constant inclusion in sports stories. On one hand, it shows the president to be a normal guy. On the other, it reeks of PR bullshit and between filling out decent NCAA brackets, watching football games, golfing, and taking vacations when does he actually do any work? (Sorry, that was a very Fox News thing to say.)

T Pryor is another college QB who would have had more NFL success moving to RB/WR.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 08 2015,08:55
QUOTE
"When we made that trade it was a great shot in the arm," Grigson said. "We lost our starter. I felt like it was the right football move at that time. I'll never back off that thought. I thought it was a no-brainer."

Someone needs some self-reflection.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 08 2015,12:27
< Guy who helped Cleveland get Manziel gets rewarded for his efforts. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 08 2015,12:31
Hope Kyle enjoys Oakland.

And, well... Browns.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2015,12:35

(Leisher @ Jan. 08 2015,14:27)
QUOTE
< Guy who helped Cleveland get Manziel gets rewarded for his efforts. >

They fired the homeless dude?
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2015,13:00
< Rice report released >.

< Response > from some owners.
QUOTE
As owners, we are the first to agree that the NFL did not have a sufficient policy in place to deal with players or other personnel accused of domestic violence.

"Unless you asked us last year, then we would've said we had that shit under control.  We didn't anticipate someone throwing a punch when a ref wouldn't be around to flag them.  That came out of nowhere."



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2015,09:12
< PFF gives Watt their MVP. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2015,09:19

(Leisher @ Jan. 09 2015,12:12)
QUOTE
< PFF gives Watt their MVP. >

NOT an MVP :p

QUOTE
In football the most valuable players are all quarterbacks, such has been the development of the game.

Truth.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2015,09:51
< The Browns cheated during games...it didn't help. >

Seriously though, what the fuck is with Haslam? I thought he was bringing stability to the organization based on "what he learned as a part owner of the Steelers". I was genuinely concerned that Cleveland was going to start being a competitive team again because they finally got a good owner. I'm starting to think he's nothing more than a Jerry Jones knockoff.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2015,12:51
< In the NFL today >...
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2015,15:49

(TheCatt @ Jan. 06 2015,19:37)
QUOTE
< Redskins get new GM >

QUOTE
The Washington Redskins were intent on upgrading their front office this offseason, and they now have signed one of the NFL's stronger talent evaluators to be their next general manager.

According to NFL Network, McCloughan will take over the GM role for the Redskins after his successful talent hauls with the San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks.

Encouraging.

QUOTE
McCloughan stepped down last April from his post with the Seahawks because of some personal issues, and did the same previously with the 49ers. He spent five years with the 49ers from 2005-2009 and three with the Seahawks from 2010.

In a piece on ESPN.com, McCloughan's battles with alcohol abuse were well detailed, as was his desire to get back into the NFL this year.

Hmmm...

< Hired. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2015,18:01
< Redskins' DC candidates >

QUOTE
[Eric] Mangini also interviewed for the Raiders head coaching job recently, although there hasn’t been any indication that he has a strong chance of landing that position.

The Redskins have either interviewed or plan to interview Wade Phillips, Ed Donatell and Joe Barry for the defensive coordinator position.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2015,18:03
QUOTE
Washington requested permission to talk with Niners defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, but was denied.

Sounds like Fangio's going to be the SF HC soon.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2015,18:06
< Browns looking at Weis >

Which, as OC, is not completely laughable.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 10 2015,13:56
Just got an update that Dick Lebeau is leaving the Steelers. Everyone knew this day would eventually come as he's 77, but I'm not going to lie, it feels like a punch in the stomach.

This guy is a Hall of Fame player and coach. Unbelievable personality and just a winner in every way. He was also a Buckeye!  

I don't know if he's retiring, but even if he goes to another team, I'd never look at the man with anything but respect.

Thanks coach, you will be missed!

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2015,14:06
Oh, I bet Danny boy will call him.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2015,14:29
FUCK YOU, Brady.  You punch a lineman, no flag.  Fuck you and you whiny piece of shit life.  Fuck you refs for letting him get away with it.

3 Patriot players taunting, AND THEY ACTUALLY CALLED IT.  Well, one of them.

Fuck you Brady.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2015,16:03
They just showed Belichick from the previous Super Bowl wins.  Wow he looks bad now.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 10 2015,20:01
Well, his job is harder now because he can't cheat anymore.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2015,20:03

(Leisher @ Jan. 10 2015,22:01)
QUOTE
Well, his job is harder now because he can't cheat anymore.

He still won.  And holy fuck, the Panthers are imploding.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2015,20:15
Oh Ravens... So Close.

How do you feel about your QB, now Harbaugh?

Poor Panthers.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2015,14:59
< Detroit > consoles Dallas.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 11 2015,20:59
Suck it, Dallas.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2015,22:17
< Dez whines >.
QUOTE
Do you feel like the better team won today?

"No."


In other news, did Eli sneak into Denver and take Peyton's place?

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 12 2015,06:48
QUOTE
"You extend, you bring it in, you reach for the goal line," Bryant is heard muttering to himself as he paces the room.

Probably should have focused on catching the ball first.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 12 2015,07:32
< Should Cardale Jones go pro? >

QUOTE
"He has to go back,'' said Phil Savage, executive director of the Senior Bowl. Savage is also the former general manager of the Cleveland Browns and director of player personnel for the Baltimore Ravens. "Jones would be a midround developmental candidate at best.''


Can you really trust what a former Browns executive says?

Posted by Troy on Jan. 12 2015,07:49
The saddest panda.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 12 2015,08:35
I got into a new type of pool for the NFL playoffs. Basically, you buy a square and you have a chance to win money at the end of every quarter of every game.

Your numbers aren't just a static set either. They're randomly drawn for each week, and for each quarter. They also add a reversal in that the top line is for the "Winner" and the left column for "Loser". Thus, people can have the same numbers hit, but you don't know which person won the square until the game ends. (Follow me?)

Anyway, the squares are $400 each and I split a square with one of my wife's friends. We goose-egged week 1, but hit twice this weekend for a total of $800!

Hitting twice is basically what you're rooting for when you bet squares. Anything more is gravy.

Did I mention the final score of the Super Bowl pays $5k?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2015,09:04
< Rex Ryan rehired >.

< Broncos wasted their time >.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 12 2015,10:35

(Malcolm @ Jan. 12 2015,12:04)
QUOTE
< Rex Ryan rehired >.

It's like a sequel.

Sequels are never better.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 12 2015,10:36

(Leisher @ Jan. 12 2015,11:35)
QUOTE
Anyway, the squares are $400 each and I split a square with one of my wife's friends. We goose-egged week 1, but hit twice this weekend for a total of $800!

Did I mention the final score of the Super Bowl pays $5k?

Holy crap that's a lot of money. I've never played squares for more than $10 a square.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2015,10:51
< Manning had been hurt > since December.  Surprise, surprise.  Would've been good to know before he blew my playoff pool.  Fuck you, Denver.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 12 2015,10:56
QUOTE
Sequels are never better.


Belicheck...

QUOTE
Holy crap that's a lot of money. I've never played squares for more than $10 a square.


After the first weekend I was honestly thinking, "WTF was I thinking?"

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 12 2015,13:04

(Leisher @ Jan. 12 2015,13:56)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Sequels are never better.


Belicheck...

It was the Browns.  That's like a whole 'nother story completely.  Same character, different story.  not a sequel.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2015,15:11
< Broncos realize > Fox isn't one of them.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 12 2015,16:14
Yeah, I was wondering if that was coming if no super bowl.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 12 2015,17:39
< 12 yo boy writes to every NFL team.  Only one writes back. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2015,20:13

(TheCatt @ Jan. 12 2015,19:39)
QUOTE
< 12 yo boy writes to every NFL team.  Only one writes back. >

You figure Cleveland didn't want to set him up for disappointment his whole life.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2015,07:27
< Elway > explains why Fox was hounded.

< DeMarco > probably not playing for Dallas.  Guess they didn't like making it past the wild card.

< Jack Del Rio to be fired in one year >.  Maybe two.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 14 2015,08:17
I don't know why anyone would want to be the Raiders' head coach.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 14 2015,11:10
QUOTE
DeMarco probably not playing for Dallas.  Guess they didn't like making it past the wild card.


Don't forget the AP factor in Dallas' decision. Although, nobody overpays for RBs anymore. They're a dime a dozen.

QUOTE
I don't know why anyone would want to be the Raiders' head coach.


Right? Although, I will give them that they have the cap room and some talent. The problem is the front office there.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 14 2015,11:30

(TheCatt @ Jan. 14 2015,08:17)
QUOTE
I don't know why anyone would want to be the Raiders' head coach.

Derek Carr
Posted by Troy on Jan. 14 2015,11:31
No really. I'm as surprised as the next guy, really.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 14 2015,16:13

(TheCatt @ Jan. 09 2015,21:03)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Washington requested permission to talk with Niners defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, but was denied.

Sounds like Fangio's going to be the SF HC soon.

< 49ers going to promote DL coach. >

Huh.

< Fangio leaving. >

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 15 2015,11:46
< The Old Man combine >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 15 2015,12:04
< Bengals > trying to have a shittier QB than Cleveland.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 16 2015,07:15
< Trent Richardson > is going to make you his bitch.
QUOTE
"If it's a weight issue, I'd like to be told that," Richardson continued. "I was sick for a while, that's what I thought it was, that's what I heard. You know better than me. You know more than I know."

Yes, Trent, everyone seems to know more than you.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 16 2015,07:33
As Bill Simmons would put it, "It's more the running two yards then falling into a pile issue."
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 18 2015,11:00
< Guess what's in the news again >?  The Patriots and cheating.  Bill Belichik bitching about other teams cheating is like Uwe Boll bitching about other directors making bad movies.


Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 18 2015,12:56
< M Lynch almost banned from game for gold cleats. >
*edit* typod almost as "also"



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 18 2015,13:49

(TheCatt @ Jan. 18 2015,15:56)
QUOTE
< M Lynch also banned from game for gold cleats. >

Not banned, just threatened to be banned.

The NFL is very strict on what players wear into games due to safety, contracts, etc.

Lynch being someone who has been fined continuously for breaking league rules, he had little chance of getting any sort of favor. Lynch is a selfish dick. If he wants to stand out from his teammates tell him to do something worth while on the field. Fuck him.

BTW, his team is losing 16-0 and I'm sure it's because he couldn't wear gold cleats.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 18 2015,15:13
Ah, the word was supposed to be "almost" not "also"
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 18 2015,15:42
Wow! How many Green Bay fans are cutting their wrists right now? What an embarrassing loss.

If the Colts lose, I guess I'll root for good commercials since I'll want both teams in the Super Bowl to lose.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 18 2015,17:49
Goddamn.  Green Bay's special teams and D fell apart.  Started with the onside kick and snowballed like angry hooker.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 18 2015,18:03

(Leisher @ Jan. 18 2015,18:42)
QUOTE
Wow! How many Green Bay fans are cutting their wrists right now? What an embarrassing loss.

If the Colts lose, I guess I'll root for good commercials since I'll want both teams in the Super Bowl to lose.

That was just... amazing.  Wow, just fucking wow.

And, Amen.  I guess I would root for Seattle, but Christ.  Can the terrorists win?  (hopefully just limiting damage to the teams, not spectators)

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 18 2015,18:09
I don't care who wins.  I just want a fucking game, unlike last year's Practice Bowl.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 18 2015,18:11
I think it started when Seattle scored 2 TDs in 44 seconds with about 2 minutes left.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 18 2015,18:17

(Leisher @ Jan. 18 2015,20:11)
QUOTE
I think it started when Seattle scored 2 TDs in 44 seconds with about 2 minutes left.

All GB had to do was recover the onside kick.  I figured either Lynch or Wilson would break out at some point.  But you can't give them the fucking ball back.  Then there was that 2-point conversion that stayed alive because GB couldn't contain Russell.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2015,09:13
< Can the Patriots win a big game without being accused of cheating? >

To the majority of the league's fans, that's the legacy Belicheck and Brady will leave behind.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 19 2015,09:43
Super Bowl 2015: Go meteor
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2015,10:12
I don't think there's a single person outside of New England or Seattle that has anything but hatred and/or scorn for either team.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 19 2015,11:57
< Doug Baldwin >.  First off, I bet most non-football folk would mistake him for the only actor worse than Stephen.  Secondly, he's got Steve Smith's attitude without the talent, consistency, or style to back it up.  This team shot from "underdog" to "douchebag establishment" in the span of a couple seasons.


Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 19 2015,20:43
< John Fox >, new head coach of the Chicago Bears, says he's looking forward to getting to know the QB that got his two predecessors fired.


Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2015,21:48
If I was a Chicago Bear fan, I'd be pretty pissed about John Fox as my head coach. I don't think he gives a shit.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 19 2015,21:53

(Leisher @ Jan. 19 2015,23:48)
QUOTE
If I was a Chicago Bear fan, I'd be pretty pissed about John Fox as my head coach. I don't think he gives a shit.

I'd be far more worried about my QB and my D.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2015,08:54
< Browns > trying to stay ahead of the Bengals in next year's annual "worst football team in Ohio" competition.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 20 2015,09:33
< INT started the whole deflated ball thing. >

I'm mainly posting it for the snarky last paragraph:
QUOTE
Ultimately it seems as if it will be difficult for the league to prove whether the balls being underinflated was due to external factors or the Patriots’ intentional actions. Maybe a thorough video review will help answer questions.


ZING!

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 20 2015,13:30
< Funniest NFL Vine from 2014. >

Poor Brock.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2015,14:14

(Leisher @ Jan. 20 2015,15:30)
QUOTE
< Funniest NFL Vine from 2014. >

Poor Brock.

< Dude > needs an award named after him.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 20 2015,20:02
< If this became reality... >

I don't think anyone would be surprised.

By the way, < the Patriots DID under-inflate those balls. >

It now doesn't matter if they win the Super Bowl or the next 7, Brady and Belicheck will always be known for the cheating. Congrats on that legacy!



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 21 2015,07:08
< Brad Johnson also admits to cheating. >

The NFL needs to take drastic action right now to curb this shit. The one thing they had going for them through all other scandals is at least their product on the field is legit unlike the WWE/NBA and the MLB steroid users.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 21 2015,07:26

(Leisher @ Jan. 21 2015,09:08)
QUOTE
< Brad Johnson also admits to cheating. >

The NFL needs to take drastic action right now to curb this shit. The one thing they had going for them through all other scandals is at least their product on the field is legit unlike the WWE/NBA and the MLB steroid users.

QUOTE
The NFL changed the rules in 2006 to allow quarterbacks the chance to scuff and rub up their game balls, breaking them in. Prior to that rule change, only the home team's quarterback was allowed to alter the balls in such a way.

Not even in the same ballpark.  I find it bullshit the home QB was allowed to do it and visitors got to go fuck themselves.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 21 2015,07:58
QUOTE
Although Johnson admitted this several years ago, his claim is now gaining attention thanks to "DeflateGate." Johnson's alterations weren't quite as one-sided as the current reports involving the New England Patriots in which Tom Brady and the New England offense were reportedly using partially deflated balls that are easier to throw and catch, while the Indianapolis Colts had properly inflated ones.

I don't think I had heard that before?  I thought it was all the balls.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 21 2015,08:17

(TheCatt @ Jan. 21 2015,07:58)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Although Johnson admitted this several years ago, his claim is now gaining attention thanks to "DeflateGate." Johnson's alterations weren't quite as one-sided as the current reports involving the New England Patriots in which Tom Brady and the New England offense were reportedly using partially deflated balls that are easier to throw and catch, while the Indianapolis Colts had properly inflated ones.

I don't think I had heard that before?  I thought it was all the balls.

What I found out from the scandal was that each team's offense only uses the balls that they provide for the game.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 21 2015,10:09
Well, you can be sure that policy will be changed.

QUOTE
Sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Wednesday that the Colts had concerns about underinflated balls after their regular-season game against the visiting Patriots on Nov. 16.


Not just one game... How long have they been doing this shit?

BTW, if I'm the NFL, Belicheck has to go. MLB has banned Pete Rose for life even though nothing he did affected the games he coached. Meanwhile, this is the second time Belicheck has been caught cheating.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 21 2015,11:21

(Leisher @ Jan. 21 2015,13:09)
QUOTE
Well, you can be sure that policy will be changed.

QUOTE
Sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Wednesday that the Colts had concerns about underinflated balls after their regular-season game against the visiting Patriots on Nov. 16.


Not just one game... How long have they been doing this shit?

BTW, if I'm the NFL, Belicheck has to go.

That would be awesome.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 21 2015,12:09

(Malcolm @ Jan. 19 2015,14:57)
QUOTE
< Doug Baldwin >.  First off, I bet most non-football folk would mistake him for the only actor worse than Stephen.  Secondly, he's got Steve Smith's attitude without the talent, consistency, or style to back it up.  This team shot from "underdog" to "douchebag establishment" in the span of a couple seasons.

< The Onion responds. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 21 2015,13:12
< Awesome - #StarLord #CaptainAmerica >
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 21 2015,13:49

(TheCatt @ Jan. 21 2015,16:12)
QUOTE
< Awesome - #StarLord #CaptainAmerica >

Very cool.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 22 2015,06:05
I guess I'm going to have to cheer for the Seahawks.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 22 2015,08:58
Chris Canty wins the sports world today by quoting Charlie Murphy:
QUOTE
"The Patriots are habitual line-steppers," Canty said in an appearance on NBCSN on Wednesday.


< The Ravens may have also known about the deflated balls. >

As that article states, the Colts actually set aside balls from their game in November, as they noticed it then, too.

The NFL can't do anything about this year, but they need to send a message. This is a team that's been caught cheating before. Now they're doing it again, and there's already a Seahawk player excusing their behavior by describing it as "risk/reward". The integrity of their game has been in question twice over the last decade because of this single team.

If I was Goodell, I'd pull their first round draft pick for next year and do my best to force Belicheck out.

I really hope Tom Brady enjoys the fact that whenever people discuss him and starting spouting facts, there will always be someone who says, "Yeah, but what about his stats when playing with a properly inflated ball?"

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 22 2015,10:37
< Lynch > fined again.
Posted by Troy on Jan. 22 2015,13:27
Sometimes you just gotta grab your balls, man.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 22 2015,13:30
Maybe the dude just has an itch?
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 22 2015,14:48
His response should have been, "Hey, my set of balls was only the second-most serious problem last week."
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 22 2015,16:58
< This isn't ISIS. >
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 22 2015,18:50
I don't believe Brady for a second.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 22 2015,21:40

(TheCatt @ Jan. 22 2015,18:58)
QUOTE
< This isn't ISIS. >

That couldn't have been real.  That press conference could not have been fucking real.
QUOTE
Brady also made the aforementioned ISIS remark, reminding the viewing public that the real enemy to American exceptionalism isn't the Patriots equipment managers.

You have to to be anally fucking me with a sea mine.  He should have to go through the concussion protocol for some of those remarks.  On the other hand, I have Gronk in my keeper league and I want one more year out of him.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 23 2015,09:57
< No one believes Brady >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 23 2015,10:17
< Wow. >
QUOTE
The damages requested: $88,987,654,321.88, a tip of the cap to his case at hand, which centers on the overturned catch by Dez Bryant that arguably swung the Cowboys-Packers divisional round playoff game.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 23 2015,12:06
< HAHAHAHA >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2015,08:37
< Waiting for the bus >.
QUOTE
Brady sounded lawyered up. If I was a ball boy or member of the equipment staff, I would look over my shoulder for a big-ass bus.

I think what the Patriots are doing is daring the NFL to punish them. I think the NFL should take that dare.

Yeah, right.  Roger Goodell is the only person around with balls that are more deflated.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2015,09:10

(Malcolm @ Jan. 22 2015,12:37)
QUOTE
< Lynch > fined again.

< Seattle GM > must secretly be a hip-hop fan because he sure loves him some ball grabbin'.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 25 2015,16:21
< Bill Nye thinks Belicheck is full of shit. >

< Josh Gordon fails another drug test. >



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 25 2015,17:00
QUOTE
Gordon tested positive for alcohol, a source said, confirming a report by Pro Football Talk. The failed test is the latest in a long line of setbacks for Gordon, whose future in Cleveland and the NFL now will be in question.

Really, NFL?  Yeah, I get it, the guy was arrested for drunk driving a while ago, but still - no alcohol?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2015,17:06
< Good players know their equipment >.  Check out Ted Williams, the human scale.
QUOTE
His biographer Leigh Montville relates the often told story that Hillerich & Bradsby presented Williams with four bats weighing 34 ounces and one weighing 33 1/2 ounces, and challenged him to identify the lighter bat, which he was consistently able to do.

No fucking way Brady doesn't notice the football being weird unless he only uses balls with low PSI.  "We're not evil, we're incompetent."

QUOTE
Really, NFL?  Yeah, I get it, the guy was arrested for drunk driving a while ago, but still - no alcohol?

If he hadn't tested positive twice before, then they'd probably let it slide.  New discipline rules and all that bullshit.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 25 2015,17:11
Alcohol isn't a drug.


Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2015,18:36

(TheCatt @ Jan. 25 2015,19:11)
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Alcohol isn't a drug.

Yes, ethyl alcohol is indeed a drug.  It's legal for the most part, but nothing stops the NFL from clamping down harder on their players in spite of the bullshit logic it follows.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2015,20:09
The Pro Bowl definitely sucks less the past two years.  I'm liking the XP rules.  Longer kick and the posts are closer together.


Posted by Leisher on Jan. 26 2015,06:31
< Deflategate hurt Brady's feelings. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 26 2015,07:09

(Malcolm @ Jan. 25 2015,23:09)
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The Pro Bowl definitely sucks less the past two years.  I'm liking the XP rules.  Longer kick and the posts are closer together.

The brief part I saw, they went for a two point conversion.  Did anyone try the PAT?
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2015,07:10
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"No one knows the facts," he continued. "I pick 24 balls, that's what I pick. Whatever happened after I did it, and whatever the situation was where they measured them, I have no idea any of those facts. So I try to stay really humble and deal with the facts that I know. When you don't know something, that's all you can say is, 'I don't know.' I know that's not always the answer that people want to hear, but that's the reality."

Wow.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 26 2015,10:47
< How many players was your team short of a Super Bowl run? >

Keeping in mind that the top represents the fewest players needed, and the bottom means your team needs the most help, Cleveland is #7...

Honestly, I don't think that's bullshit. Give them a legit QB and they might be a playoff team, although it's a tough ass division.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2015,10:55

(Malcolm @ Jan. 24 2015,11:10)
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(Malcolm @ Jan. 22 2015,12:37)
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< Lynch > fined again.

< Seattle GM > must secretly be a hip-hop fan because he sure loves him some ball grabbin'.

< HAHAHA >.
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The NFL nearly found itself double dipping, fining Seattle Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch $20,000 for his infamous crotch grabbing and then the league turned out and tried to sell the photo for $149.95.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2015,11:29
< Odell wasn't 100% this season >.  Every defensive coordinator has all off-season to watch film on him, though.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2015,12:42

(TheCatt @ Jan. 26 2015,09:09)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 25 2015,23:09)
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The Pro Bowl definitely sucks less the past two years.  I'm liking the XP rules.  Longer kick and the posts are closer together.

The brief part I saw, they went for a two point conversion.  Did anyone try the PAT?

Yeah.  Saw it on the last score.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2015,12:42

(TheCatt @ Jan. 25 2015,19:11)
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Alcohol isn't a drug.

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Gordon is in Stage Three of the program, and under Stage Three he is tested for alcohol for a minimum of two years.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2015,12:48
< Kicker bitches > that the Pro Bowl seemed to pick on kickers.  Come the fuck on.  Half of your job is kick PATs, which are so close to automatic it's laughable.  Drop them back 10 or 15 yards.  The other half is kicking FGs.  Again, anything under 30 yards is goddamned near given.  The posts should narrow the closer the kick is to the end zone.  Want a 15-yarder?  Fine.  The posts are 10 yards apart, then, and they widen to maximum for a, I don't know, 50-yarder.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 26 2015,13:18
< CFP vs NFL wild card >
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2015,06:27
< Robert Kraft demands NFL apologize if they can't prove Deflategate. >

Does he forget that his coach was involved in the biggest cheating scandal in NFL history? A scandal much bigger than we'll ever know since the NFL shredded all document and evidence related to it.

Does he not listen to ALL other athletes who are saying they know their equipment like they know their own body, and there's no way a football could be two pounds lighter without Brady knowing it AND no equipment manager would fuck with his QB's footballs without being told to do so?

Did he not listen to Bill Nye explain how Belicheck's "environmental conditions caused the deflation" theory didn't make sense?

Is Robert Kraft drinking the Belicheck Kool-Aid?

Posted by Stranger on Jan. 27 2015,06:41
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How many players was your team short of a Super Bowl run?



WOW! while that article sheds a kind light on the Browns, I'd have to disagree completely with these morons.  

If you click on the teams they give a list of Elite, Good, Average and Bad players.  What the fuck are these ass clowns smoking?  Alex Mack, Paul Kruger and Joe Haden are average?! I'd argue the those 3 could be the three best players on the team!

Yes, I think Mack is better than Joe Thomas, no coincidence that we went from one of the best running teams in the league to one of the worst the week after he was lost for the season.  Meanwhile, Joe Thomas might have had more penalties than any other player on that team this year.  And to put John Greco and Joel Bitonio ahead of him is just an insult to anybody who watches Browns games.  Bitonio had a fantastic season as a rookie, but he's just a rookie, he can't be elite and ahead of a probowler like Mack.

Then to put Haden on the same level as Justin Gilbert is a failure of epic proportions.  Did this dude even know that two undrafted rookies beat this guy out?  If it wasn't for Johnny dominating the headlines, you could argue that Gilbert, the 8th overall pick was one of the biggest draft busts in recent history.  He wasn't even active for about half the games this year and his off the field issues have also been a problem just like the rest of the clowns on this team.  There should be another list called "the really bad" and Johnny and Justin should be on that list.

Then to list West, Crowell, Hoyer and Cameron as bad behind others that deservingly deserve that title is just ludicrous.  So they overvalued some players and undervalued others, but 5 players short? I don't know, give us a QB and possibly

Posted by Stranger on Jan. 27 2015,07:16
< The stats don't lie.. Patriots are cheaters. >


Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 27 2015,07:25
< Fall guy incoming? >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2015,07:25

(TheCatt @ Jan. 27 2015,09:25)
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< Fall guy incoming? >

QUOTE
Brady sounded lawyered up. If I was a ball boy or member of the equipment staff, I would look over my shoulder for a big-ass bus.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2015,07:27
QUOTE
How many players was your team short of a Super Bowl run?

Give the Rams a solid QB and a couple real dudes on the o-line, they'd be a real team.  Certainly enough to take out Frisco and a Palmer-less Arizona team.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2015,08:17

(Stranger @ Jan. 27 2015,10:16)
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< The stats don't lie.. Patriots are cheaters. >

That's a great article.
Posted by Stranger on Jan. 27 2015,11:32
Marshawn Lynch's whole transcript from media day:  "I'm just here so I won't get fined" 100X


...Marshawn will probably get fined

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2015,11:57

(Stranger @ Jan. 27 2015,13:32)
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Marshawn Lynch's whole transcript from media day:  "I'm just here so I won't get fined" 100X


...Marshawn will probably get fined

I find his stonewalling of the media justifiable, fuck contractual obligations.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 27 2015,12:05
< I heard it went a little differently >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2015,12:14

(TheCatt @ Jan. 27 2015,14:05)
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< I heard it went a little differently >

Always hoped it was more like this.




Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2015,14:21

(Malcolm @ Jan. 27 2015,14:57)
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(Stranger @ Jan. 27 2015,13:32)
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Marshawn Lynch's whole transcript from media day:  "I'm just here so I won't get fined" 100X


...Marshawn will probably get fined

I find his stonewalling of the media justifiable, fuck contractual obligations.

I find it to be the act of a selfish jackass who doesn't know how his bread gets buttered.

Making yourself available to the media means putting yourself closer to your fans. It doesn't mean you're a slave or whatever bullshit he's trying to say.

Here's a thought: If you don't want to deal with the media, quit the fucking game. Go play in the CFL. You'll still get rich, but nobody will care.

Otherwise grow the fuck up and realize it's a part of your job.

I don't like doing my annual budget, but I have to do it.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2015,16:08
< Lynch >?  Yeah, he's a real asshole.
QUOTE
In one of those fun moments that often gets overlooked, though, Lynch returned the wallet of a Seattle-area man who dropped it at a gas station where Lynch was filling up.
...
Lynch and some teammates were on their way to Marsyville-Pilchuck High School, which endured a deadly shooting just three weeks ago, for an assembly.


Some dudes simply don't give a fuck about etiquette and would rather speak through their own actions, on the field or off.  Does he have a chip on his shoulder?  Yeah.  If I had his stats, I might, too.  If someone forced me on to a podium I didn't want to fucking be on but had to fulfill because of some bullshit legalese, I'd probably pull something meta like that.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 27 2015,16:26
I have no problem with him not wanting to talk to the media. I would probably deal with it about the same.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2015,18:28
Lynch isn't the go-to "face" for that team.  You got Russ for that.  Lynch is the grunt in the trenches getting you Ws.  That's how he gets paid, that's how he gets fans.  You also don't hear about him causing locker room throwdowns or getting into legal trouble, which is how most players make themselves look like asswipes.  No one buys a Marshawn Lynch jersey because they think he's gregarious.  Does he grab his balls?  Yeah, when he scores a deciding TD in a postseason game, one against a division rival.  He pays the fines and doesn't put himself up on a cross, nor does he do it every TD.  I bet you that all his teammates have his back.  So he's got an attitude.  So does Steve Smith the greater (also a fan).  I haven't seen it cost his team yet.


Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2015,20:31

(Malcolm @ Jan. 27 2015,19:08)
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< Lynch >?  Yeah, he's a real asshole.
QUOTE
In one of those fun moments that often gets overlooked, though, Lynch returned the wallet of a Seattle-area man who dropped it at a gas station where Lynch was filling up.
...
Lynch and some teammates were on their way to Marsyville-Pilchuck High School, which endured a deadly shooting just three weeks ago, for an assembly.


Some dudes simply don't give a fuck about etiquette and would rather speak through their own actions, on the field or off.  Does he have a chip on his shoulder?  Yeah.  If I had his stats, I might, too.  If someone forced me on to a podium I didn't want to fucking be on but had to fulfill because of some bullshit legalese, I'd probably pull something meta like that.

What part of that has anything to do with his job?

It's nice, and his teammates paint him as someone who's really great in the community, but how are the fans supposed to know? And who are you to decide Russell is the face of the team? Marshawn is the better player right now.

In front of the cameras, that he has to contractually get in front of, he's a jackass. He embarrasses his team and becomes a distraction.

If he has shyness issues or something like that, ala Moss, then his team is failing him. They should be telling the NFL to back off so they can ease him into the light.

As it stands, despite what he may do in stories we never hear, I just see a guy who only talks to the fans via the media in evasive answers where he's clearly ignored, and a showboater who does classless things like grab his dick in his opponents' faces.

Plus, as I'm typing this I just saw him do a Progressive commercial that either was in conjunction with ESPN or just Kenny Mayne from ESPN. In the commercial he was talking up a storm. So he's either a hypocrite or I'm missing where the conflict is that he's taking a stand against with the NFL.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2015,20:56
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In front of the cameras, that he has to contractually get in front of, he's a jackass.

I'd pay the fine every time.  It's the bullshit fact I'm forced to do something that seems outside the scope of my job, which is "play football."

QUOTE
And who are you to decide Russell is the face of the team? Marshawn is the better player right now.

The QB is the answer man on virtually every single team in the NFL.  Marshawn may or may not be retiring next year and may or may not be a Seahawk.  Wilson's younger and they will lock him the fuck in barring an act of god.

QUOTE
So he's either a hypocrite or I'm missing where the conflict is that he's taking a stand against with the NFL.

Jingles.  It's the jingles.  And the Progressive dudes probably aren't the ones ripping him whenever he has a shitty game.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2015,21:35
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I'd pay the fine every time.  It's the bullshit fact I'm forced to do something that seems outside the scope of my job, which is "play football."


No you wouldn't. You'd back down like he did today when faced with a $500,000 fine. Sure he answered with the same answer 29 times, but he was there.

By the way, "seems" outside of your job? You're playing a child's game for millions of dollars funded by the people of whatever city, and you decide actually communicating with them isn't in your realm of responsibilities?

1. That makes you a selfish jackass.
2. You're not the boss! The NFL has been around a LOT longer than Marshawn Lynch and will be there after he's gone. Their game, their league, their rules. End of story. Why don't you find a job requirement of your own that was part of the deal when you were hired and tell your boss you're not doing it anymore. No explanation, just refuse, and do so in the most insubordinate way possible. Let me know how that works out for you.

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The QB is the answer man on virtually every single team in the NFL.


That is ridiculously untrue.  There are a handful of great QBs who can be looked upon as faces of their franchises. For the rest of the NFL, such perception falls on the coach or other players. Steve Smith was that face with the Panthers. Ray Lewis with the Ravens. Despite Brady, Belicheck is the face of that team. This list goes on.

Also, you keep trying to put one guy for each team in the spotlight. It's a team game! Fans root for the team (or as Simmons says "the laundry"), not just one guy. In Seattle's case, ESPN has been going to all their other players to get their reaction to Lynch, which proves my point.

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Jingles.  It's the jingles.  And the Progressive dudes probably aren't the ones ripping him whenever he has a shitty game.


So yeah, hypocrite.

And a coward if he can't face the media when he has a bad game. Someone from the Browns shows up in front of the media every week, maybe Marshawn should go see their wizard to learn courage.

BTW, despite all of this, I still have more respect for Marchawn than I do for the entire Patriots organization. Lynch might have misguided standards and likes to be a classless asshole on the field, but at least he's not an arrogant cheater who gets caught yet demands an apology from the people who caught him.

One other thing occurred to me, so I want to add:
If this turns out to be a marketing move by Lynch and his agent to get gigs he never got prior to this...brilliant.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2015,21:40
< Here's another way the Patriots cheated this season. >
Posted by Troy on Jan. 28 2015,09:47
They really need to start asking Marshawn the right questions to get answers. < Ask him about chain restaurants! >

(oldie but great)

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 28 2015,09:51
That's a funny clip, but did he pronounce a single word correctly?

I have often wondered why a reporter hasn't tried a more comedic approach with him.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 29 2015,09:22
Ummm....
QUOTE
he Washington Redskins have hired Matt Cavanaugh as their quarterbacks coach after going without one last season.

The team announced the move Wednesday.

Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins and Colt McCoy all started games at quarterback for the Redskins in 2014, when they were 4-12 and finished last in the NFC East for the sixth time in seven seasons.

Cavanaugh was the QB coach of the Bears the past two years, working with Jay Cutler, who threw 18 interceptions last season.

Before that, Cavanaugh coached quarterbacks for the Jets from 2009-12.
He also has been an offensive coordinator in the NFL, and played 14 seasons for four clubs from 1978-91.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 29 2015,10:43
Yeah, I've never understood some of the revolving door hires like that one.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 29 2015,12:37

(Leisher @ Jan. 29 2015,12:43)
QUOTE
Yeah, I've never understood some of the revolving door hires like that one.

Blackmail.  Nepotism.  Good ol' boys club.  Plain old stupidity.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 29 2015,13:33
< Josh Gordon writes an open letter to his critics. >

I really hope he wrote that, but let's be honest, that could easily be something create by his agent in hopes of saving his career.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 29 2015,14:16
That potential suspension is going to loom huge over the off season.  Wait for it...

Gordon is cut by the Browns, then the Pats sign him and he has a Randy Moss-type renaissance season or two.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 29 2015,18:26
Catching deflated balls is easier than badly thrown properly inflated ones.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 29 2015,19:30

(Stranger @ Jan. 27 2015,14:32)
QUOTE
Marshawn Lynch's whole transcript from media day:  "I'm just here so I won't get fined" 100X


...Marshawn will probably get fined

< You're psychic.  Kinda. >
Posted by Stranger on Jan. 30 2015,06:25
Fuck you Josh Gordon! talk is cheap!

Even though there are many worse things he can be doing than drinking beer and smoking weed, nobody is feeling sorry for him.  America is good for giving people a second chance, but a 3rd, 4th or 5th chance??? Your dead to me Josh.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 30 2015,12:33
< 49ers >: we've not yet begun to fuck up.
QUOTE
"It's not fixing Kaepernick," York said.
...
How many quarterbacks in this league can run 90 yards for a touchdown? I can't think of many but you have to put Kap in position where he can make those plays and put Kap in position where we can run the ball.

Number of successful QBs who rely on their legs besides arm: 2.  Kaep ain't Vick or Wilson.

< Goddell still a twat > who keeps his job in the face of all logic.
QUOTE
Goodell on Marshawn Lynch's handling of media: "When you're in the NFL, you have an obligation to the fans. It is part of your job."

Says the man who's put on some of the most painful media conferences this past calendar year.  Lynch might have an obligation to the fans, not the media.  Don't mistake the two.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 30 2015,14:18
That I agree with...Goodell has no business saying anything to Lynch. That's the classic pot/kettle situation.

Goodell is a stooge who needs to be shitcanned.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2015,10:20
< What the fuck? >  
QUOTE
The NFL's investigation into the New England Patriots' alleged ball tampering has determined that the footballs used in last month's AFC Championship were not as underinflated as previously believed, according to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport. Though previous reports said 11 of 12 footballs were each underinflated by two pounds per square inch, the league actually found many to be only "a few ticks" under the minimum allowable PSI; only one was two pounds under the limit.

No, really.  What the fuck?  You've now proven you're completely incompetent when it comes to checking a pressure gauge.  How do ten of the balls in question go from a -2 PSI diff to "eh, they're fine."  You either supremely fucked up the initial measurement, jeebus hopes you would have taken multiple readings with a few gauges, or this final one.  In the hell?  Did Kraft just deliver a semi of gold bullion to Goddell's house last night?

2 PSI is approximately 15% of the 12.5-13.5 you're supposed to have.  What the fuck equipment are you using that's so fucking inaccurate it has a double digit error margin?  The $8 gauge I have for my car tires works better than that.

And just because I feel like railing on the NFL today:

< New Atlanta Falcons > team song sounds suspiciously like people cheering.

< The "domestic violence" initiative >.  But who the hell is "NoMore.org?"
QUOTE

   The Allstate Foundation
   Avon Foundation for Women
   Joyful Heart Foundation
   Kaiser Permanente
   Kimberly-Clark
   Fifth & Pacific Foundation
   Finn Partners
   Verizon Foundation
   Mary Kay Inc.
   Break the Cycle
   Casa de Esperanza
   Men Can Stop Rape
   National Alliance to End Sexual Violence


Oh well.  At least it's a legit nonprofit charity.
QUOTE
It doesn't call itself a nonprofit, and nonprofit tracker GuideStar had no 990 forms for any groups with that specific name. There's not much information on No More's website itself. I searched for a mailing address, an office, or even a state it might be registered in but found nothing except "location: nationwide."

Oops.

So how the fuck did the NFL pick up this one anti-violence org out of the zillions out there, many of which have a thousand times more legitimacy?
QUOTE
You can probably guess why of all the many worthy domestic-violence groups out there, the one now partnered with the NFL is the one that doesn't seem to actually exist and was co-founded by an NFL-employed corporate branding specialist who boasts about her experience fighting anti-sweatshop activists, labor unions, and NGOs and telling stories about all the good things the brands actually do.

Awesome.  NoMore.Org is a giant brand promotion scheme.  I can't think of anything else the NFL front office can do to fuck itself in the ass with it's own dick.



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 01 2015,12:00
Let the conspiracy theorists go to work on the New England bullshit.

First they get caught cheating and all documents related to it are shredded.

Now the first report clearly states cheating, with a report over a week later saying maybe they counted wrong? I don't even know 3 year olds who count from 1 to 11.

Did we go back in time to Roswell?

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2015,12:27
I can only assume they couldn't find a ball boy or equipment monkey to pin it on.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 01 2015,14:37

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 01 2015,16:02
So far Snickers and Kickstarter are winning the commercial war.

Chevy trucks seem desperate.



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 01 2015,19:20
I don't remember the Kickstarter one?

As for the game... "It's not like the Seahawks have anyone that can run the ball, right?"  Jesus Christ.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 01 2015,19:21
Worst play call I've ever seen based on situation.

Also, every team in the NFL should start cheating now because it pays off.

Patriots win.*

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 01 2015,19:36
Nice *

And... so I'm there with my kids trying to get them into the Super Bowl experience (they love Katy Perry, so that helped)... and the Nationwide ad comes on.

But yes, I give the win to the Snickers ad off the top of my head.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 01 2015,21:22
Yeah, Nationwide fucked up big time. They've gotten nothing but hostility over those ads.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2015,21:58
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But yes, I give the win to the Snickers ad off the top of my head.

Snickers wins.  Not even close.

QUOTE
Worst play call I've ever seen based on situation.

What the FUCK was he thinking with that last play?  If you're going to lose, lose with your superstars.

QUOTE
Yeah, Nationwide fucked up big time. They've gotten nothing but hostility over those ads.

What ad?

Posted by Paul on Feb. 02 2015,05:18





Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2015,09:27
< Johnny Rehab >.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2015,12:43
< Marshawn Lynch > being an asshole.
QUOTE
NFL Media's Aditi Kinkhabwala asked Lynch after the loss if the running back was surprised he didn't get the ball. "No," he replied.

When pressed further why he wasn't surprised, the running back known as "Beast Mode" said, "because football is a team sport."


On the flip side, here's Julian Edelman < actually being an asshole >.
QUOTE
A fired-up Edelman took a stand for the residents of Boston when describing how the Patriots overcame adversity and criticism, and then went after Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks Trent Dilfer and Steve Young

His justification?  Fuck you and fuck everyone that thinks we cheated.  We won.  Lick our golden, deflated balls.



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 02 2015,13:44
I didn't think Marshawn was being an asshole in those comments?
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2015,13:54

(TheCatt @ Feb. 02 2015,15:44)
QUOTE
I didn't think Marshawn was being an asshole in those comments?

That's kind of the point.

QUOTE
1. That makes you a selfish jackass.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2015,15:33

(Malcolm @ Feb. 01 2015,23:58)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Yeah, Nationwide fucked up big time. They've gotten nothing but hostility over those ads.

What ad?

I watched a Nationwide ad with Mindy something.  Is that the one?

EDIT: Oh.  Must be the child death one.  Nothing sells like < fear and paranoia >.



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 02 2015,15:38
Overall, this may have been one of the best Super Bowls.  Great game, exciting ending, solid commercials, and one of my favorite half time shows.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2015,15:41
QUOTE
solid commercials

Disappointing except for Snickers ad and a couple others.

QUOTE
one of my favorite half time shows

Tell me you're a Kravitz fan, or at least a Missy fan.

QUOTE
Great game, exciting ending

Except the fucking cheaters won.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 02 2015,15:46
I hate Lenny Kravitz.  I was SOOOOOO happy to see him singing a song that wasn't his.  It actually made me quite happy.

I love (a couple of) Missy Elliott's songs.  True story: I never knew she sang them (Get Ur Freak On and Gossip Folks).

I'm a Katy Perry fan, and my girls LOVE Katy Perry, so they watched the game with me, and were super excited about skipping bathtime to watch the halftime show instead and "stay up late" (It was their normal bedtime, but hey - perception = reality).

I don't really care who won.  I just wanted to be entertained, and I was.

Posted by Paul on Feb. 02 2015,20:27
< Seattle fans >
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 03 2015,16:28
< Gordon suspended 1 year >

QUOTE
Gordon, who has already served two league suspensions, will have to apply for reinstatement. A league spokesman said his one-year ban begins immediately, meaning he will miss the 2015 season.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 03 2015,17:38

(Malcolm @ Feb. 02 2015,16:54)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Feb. 02 2015,15:44)
QUOTE
I didn't think Marshawn was being an asshole in those comments?

That's kind of the point.

QUOTE
1. That makes you a selfish jackass.

Yeah, he cares about his teammates, but not the people who pay him.

What a hero.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2015,19:12

(TheCatt @ Feb. 03 2015,18:28)
QUOTE
< Gordon suspended 1 year >

QUOTE
Gordon, who has already served two league suspensions, will have to apply for reinstatement. A league spokesman said his one-year ban begins immediately, meaning he will miss the 2015 season.

So ... bud + codeine (allegedly) + booze > knocking a woman the fuck out OR taking a switch to one of your many kids OR disregarding equipment rules on the NFL books which have clearly objective criteria that were violated.

Right on, Gooddell.  If this had been a DUI, you would have had something of a leg to stand on.  Your substance abuse policy is an impotent joke, much your tenure as commish ... and probably your dick.  When you don't have any balls, like Roger Gooddell, you have to ask for permission to get it up.



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 03 2015,19:30
Gordon deserves no punishment, based on the statements made so far.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2015,19:37

(TheCatt @ Feb. 03 2015,21:30)
QUOTE
Gordon deserves no punishment, based on the statements made so far.

Should've been caught drinking Budweiser.  He could've defended himself with, "But it's the official beer of the NFL.  I was promoting the league."
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 04 2015,08:08
Goodell is a complete joke.

Lynch and Gordon, both of whom are breaking the rules, are being publicly destroyed, but neither of their actions really affect the game on the field.

Meanwhile, you've got an organization that has been caught cheating once already, and had that evidence destroyed for some reason. Over the past few years since they've not been able to replicate the success they had while they were cheating, despite rumors of other infractions or bending of rules.

Now they're in the middle of another scandal that the NFL seems to be going out of its way to sweep under the rug.

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the great friendship between Goodell and Kraft.

The integrity of the game is being shit upon in New England, and Goodell is fucking every other team in the league by not hammering New England and destroying evidence.

I get not wanting things to be made public to protect the integrity of the game, but the owners of the NFL should have some private agreement where if a team gets caught cheating in a big way like Spygate, then the coach must be fired and never hired by another team along with other punishments.

Had someone on FB telling me the investigations in New England is yellow journalism and everybody cheats. I explained to him that you can't accuse the MSM of yellow journalism and then in the same breath do exactly that. If everyone is cheating, how come only New England is getting caught?

Actually, Atlanta has been caught piping in fake crowd noise, but let's be honest, with the shitty Atlanta fans shouldn't we allow them that one?

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 04 2015,09:04
< Julian Edelman > is really rising on my list of "shithead ass clowns that I hate."
QUOTE
In a postgame interview with NFL Network's Alex Flanagan, Julian Edelman couldn't help but be in awe of his highly decorated teammate: "He's the greatest quarterback ever to live on this Earth. He's won four Super Bowls in the modern-day era with a salary cap. He's been to six. I'm a huge Joe Montana fan, I love him to death, but Tommy's No. 1."

Posted by Stranger on Feb. 04 2015,09:39
Whats really going to be interesting is how this "Textgate" will all pan out.  Looks like Ray Farmer and the Browns could be getting punished.  If the Patriots get off scott free and Cleveland gets a fist up the ass then that is just fucked up.

If Ray was texting, then who the fuck cares!! That is something that has to be dealt with in house, if anything he's just fucking up the inner workings of his own team.  Unless he has some inside information on the other team on game day, he's not fucking with the integrity of the game.  And lets be honest, it was texts about Johnny and why he's not playing.

Personally, I don't care if Ray gets suspended or fined, infact I wish they could just suspend his ass on draft day so he don't fuck up another first round like he did last year.  But if they take away draft picks then Rodger Goodell better be ready for a raging fucking mad fan base.

Oh yeah, here's the < Cleveland.com > article about Ray's texts.



Posted by Stranger on Feb. 04 2015,09:44
... and could this be an anymore embarrassing week for the Cleveland Browns?

Monday... Johnny checks into rehab
Tuesday...  Gordon suspended for the year
Wednesday... Ray Farmer and "textgate" story comes out

Whats the rest of the week hold?  OIC (only in Cleveland).........

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 04 2015,09:54
QUOTE
"This is my job," Goodell said in response to a question about Deflate-gate. "This is my responsibility to protect the integrity of the game. I represent 32 teams. All of us want to make sure that the rules are being followed. And if we have any information where the potential is that those rules were violated, I have to pursue that. And I have to pursue that aggressively.

I can only speculate on the amount and type of narcotics that were administered to Goodell to keep him from laughing and snickering.  The best actor from the Royal Shakespeare company couldn't keep a straight face saying that.



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 04 2015,11:45
If Cleveland loses draft picks over texting, New England should lose an entire draft.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 04 2015,11:56
Bud + codeine + booze > < punching a dude over a parking space >.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 05 2015,08:32
< Snub >.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 06 2015,05:44
Up and coming douche Julian Edelman takes a woman home from a club after celebrating the Patriots Super Bowl victory.*

< She posts a picture after they were done > and becomes public enemy number one in Boston.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 06 2015,09:45
< Something else > Tampa Bay sucks at.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 06 2015,10:58
< While not NFL-related >, I think we may be seeing the beginning of the end of anything below college football with respect to tackling.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 06 2015,11:32
QUOTE
The family claims his death was a result of brain injuries suffered while playing for the league.

Then the family should not have let him play.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 06 2015,11:35
I expect that at some point in the near future there's going to be a major kickback to this trend.

Does the nerf everything, PC crowd win this battle and end ALL remotely violent sports or are folks forced to sign away all their rights in some legally binding document that states they understand the risks?

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 06 2015,12:57
QUOTE
I expect that at some point in the near future there's going to be a major kickback to this trend.

No way.  Expect it to extend to hockey, boxing, and UFC (probably in that order).

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 06 2015,13:19
Yes way. Billion dollar industries are not going to go quietly into the night.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 06 2015,13:26

(Leisher @ Feb. 06 2015,15:19)
QUOTE
Yes way. Billion dollar industries are not going to go quietly into the night.

Advertisers will find some other way to push their products so it doesn't look like they're associated with acts of brain damage.

And anyhow, I'm not saying the NFL, NHL, IBF/WBA, and UFC are going to shut their doors overnight or anytime soon.  I'm saying you'll see a massively restricted version of those sports until about the college level.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 09 2015,11:10
< The saga of T-Bitch >.
QUOTE
He had shared carries with Ahmad Bradshaw during the first 10 games of the season, but Bradshaw suffered a fractured fibula -- ending his season -- against New England on Nov. 16.

The Colts, according to a source, became frustrated with Richardson because they couldn't get in touch with him and didn't have any communication with him until around 1 p.m. the day after the Patriots game.

Fucking wow.

< Bills sign > Incognito.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 10 2015,10:24
< Goddamn >.  One of the best garage sale finds ev4r.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 10 2015,19:25
< Browns trading up for Mariotta? >

That could get pricey. It's been rumored that Phily will be trying to get Mariotta too.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 10 2015,19:32
DO IT BROWNS!
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 11 2015,05:35
....I don't know, I'm not sure if Mariotta is going to be a great QB.  At least he's a complete 180 from Johnny in terms of character.  Personally I think Winston will have the better career but he's got his off the field issues too.  

I think the best course of action for the Browns would be to resign Hoyer.  But I wouldn't be surprised if they make a run for Sam Bradford or Nick Foles, neither of these guys get my panties wet, but that's what I've been hearing on local radio.



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 11 2015,05:44

(Stranger @ Feb. 11 2015,08:35)
QUOTE
he's a complete 180 from Johnny

So... he'll be a great QB!

QUOTE

I think the best course of action for the Browns would be to resign Hoyer.

Oh hey, there's plenty of room on this Hoyer bandwagon, so far I've been pretty lonesome, c;mon have a seat!

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 11 2015,07:25
QUOTE
But I wouldn't be surprised if they make a run for Sam Bradford...

You can probably get him cheap.  You might want to keep two or three spare ACLs for him.

QUOTE

(Stranger @ Feb. 11 2015,08:35)
QUOTE
he's a complete 180 from Johnny

So... he'll be a great QB!

No, it means a homeless dude didn't tell the Browns to draft him.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 11 2015,12:00
< Browns tap their inner Belicheck on Mariotta. >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 11 2015,21:42
< Steelers have the toughest schedule in 2015. >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 13 2015,06:01
Guess who is featured for the month of February, black history month, in the Philadelphia Eagles calendar?

< Riley Cooper. >

Posted by Troy on Feb. 13 2015,12:20
"he's on the cover for that month to remind us it's not a leap year"

-deadspin comments

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 14 2015,11:46
< Manning tells everyone > he's prepared to be the next Brett Favre and chase that final championship forever or until an injury knocks him out.

< Worst commissioner > in the history of pro sports made $35M in 2013 year as leader of a non-profit.
QUOTE
In a statement, Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank, who is chair of the league’s compensation committee, called Goodell’s 2013 compensation a “fair reflection of his leadership and contributions during the year.” The league must legally disclose its executive compensation as part of its non-profit status.



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 17 2015,11:56
< Ahmad > arrested for possession.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2015,08:32
< Scape goat identified. >

He tried to put an unauthorized ball into play during the AFC title game too.

I'm sure NOBODY else knew about his actions.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 18 2015,08:40

(Leisher @ Feb. 18 2015,10:32)
QUOTE
< Scape goat identified. >

He tried to put an unauthorized ball into play during the AFC title game too.

I'm sure NOBODY else knew about his actions.

Wow.  Did that dude get hit by Jerome Bettis?  Because he just got thrown under the bus.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 18 2015,11:10
< Rex Ryan > proves Malcolm right.
QUOTE
Of course, no conversation about the Patriots would be complete without mention of Deflategate, so Ryan was asked about that too.

"I mean, obviously, I think they earned they earned the Super Bowl, period," Ryan said. "That's the way I see it."

Ball-less as ever.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 19 2015,13:03
< "Fresh" helmet designs for pro and college teams. >

I like the Steelers one, but the Buckeye one not so much.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 19 2015,13:14
< Because > this will never die now.
QUOTE
Speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine on Thursday, general manager Ryan Grigson confirmed for the first time that the Indianapolis Colts alerted the NFL as to concerns over the New England Patriots' deflated footballs in advance of the AFC Championship Game.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 20 2015,06:20
< LA getting two teams...maybe. >

Serious strong arm tactics by the Chargers and Raiders.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 20 2015,07:17
If the Browns do go after Mariota, < it could get ridiculously expensive >.

I wonder if that's an intentionally dropped rumor to scare off other teams from trying to grab Mariota? Because it seems insane.

*Fixed - They already have Manziel*



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 20 2015,07:45
That price just seems obscene.  On the other hand, maybe the rumour is a way for someone to anchor the price.  It seems insane now, but wait a week and people will have accepted it.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 20 2015,11:04
< Vikes reneg > on AP.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 20 2015,11:39
If that's true, AP to the Cowboys is the safe bet.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 20 2015,13:44
< Tosh on the Pats win. >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 20 2015,14:37

(Leisher @ Feb. 20 2015,15:44)
QUOTE
< Tosh on the Pats win. >

I still can't believe how that shit went down.  It's not the Black Sox, but the whitewashing is way worse.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 23 2015,08:10
< Threat of move working in Sand Diego. >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 23 2015,13:24
< JaMarcus Russell was so bad even Matt Millen knew it before the draft. >
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 23 2015,13:38
Browns new logo leaked!!



So tmrow the Browns will unveil a new logo, I didn't even know they had one.

I guess getting a new logo and slick new jerseys are more important than getting a franchise QB...

Posted by Stranger on Feb. 23 2015,13:44
This is the one that's getting rumored around, but I highly doubt it.  Its Paul Brown, but he looks like the Joker.



This was the post going along with the photo.  Sounds convincing but I still don't believe that will be the logo.

QUOTE
Long story short our truck got in last night to beat a blizzard coming. We are rolling out product on Wednesday, but I'd bet the logos leak tomorrow because If we got this product lots of other stores did too.

The first is a lighter than we're used to Brown block C With a white outline. It's pretty straight forward.

The second is the new helmet. It's a darker orange with a broad Brown stripe bordered in white with what looks like little hats in the stripe like Seattle's wing pattern. Brown facemask too.

The final one is my favorite and if I had to guess, is bet it's the new primary logo. It's a sillouhette of a man from shoulders up wearing a derby hat but his chin is to his chest and the hat's brim covers all but his chin and a smirk. His hat is brown with a orange stripe. His coat is orange and his tie is brown.

I think it's Paul Brown and they can't show his face because of his son that owns the Bengals. But it's seriously bad ass.

I won't post pics because I love my job, but like I said it's probably leaking tomorrow because I know we're not the only store that got a truck tonight.



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 24 2015,07:48
Clayton is reporting that the Rams are basically a lock for L.A. if their owner gets his way.

He actually says that right now it looks like the Chargers and Rams in LA, and the Raiders to St. Louis.

Posted by Stranger on Feb. 24 2015,07:48
< BIGGEST.. LETDOWN... EVER!! >

Really? what is that? I've just about had it with this team

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 24 2015,07:55

(Leisher @ Feb. 24 2015,09:48)
QUOTE
Clayton is reporting that the Rams are basically a lock for L.A. if their owner gets his way.

He actually says that right now it looks like the Chargers and Rams in LA, and the Raiders to St. Louis.

I'd be pissed if I were St. Louis.  Raiders are hopeless.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 24 2015,08:11
< Deangelo going to be released >.

< Lynch > applies for another trademark.
QUOTE
After his famous "I'm just here so I won't get fined" line went viral during Super Bowl media day, the Seattle Seahawks' power back and his people are attempting to trademark the phrase with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, The Seattle Times first reported.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 24 2015,08:19

(Stranger @ Feb. 24 2015,10:48)
QUOTE
< BIGGEST.. LETDOWN... EVER!! >

Really? what is that? I've just about had it with this team

Even on a slow news day, that wasn't news.

There's "nods to the past" and then there's the exact same thing as the past.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 24 2015,08:21

(Stranger @ Feb. 24 2015,10:48)
QUOTE
< BIGGEST.. LETDOWN... EVER!! >

Really? what is that? I've just about had it with this team

That's at least two shades of orange/brown different.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 24 2015,09:19
< The uniforms we unveil will have the real changes. >

After today's debacle, I doubt Cleveland fans are holding their breath.

Posted by Stranger on Feb. 24 2015,09:45
I'm almost certain that the big change will be the addition of another color.  Most likely a gunmetal grey, kind of like the Oklahoma State jerseys.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 24 2015,13:27
< 2 Congressmen > obviously don't have enough to do on a daily basis.

< Ravens owner is insane >.



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 25 2015,10:35
< Dez Bryant video to be released? >

Apparently, there's a video out there of him beating up a woman in a Walmart.

They say it's "5x worse than the Ray Rice video".

The incident is from a long time ago, and is supposedly being teased by two people he cuts ties with as they were bad influences in his life.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 25 2015,10:58
QUOTE
They say it's "5x worse than the Ray Rice video".

You mean five times as many security personnel gave him a free pass and the NFL tried five times harder to bury it?

EDIT: Better yet, his defense: "Yeah, I hit her because she was saying Roger Gooddell wasn't the greatest commissioner in NFL history."



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 25 2015,12:32
< The Browns have redesigned every NFL teams' logo. >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 26 2015,10:59
< Reggie's cut >.

< AP's reinstated >.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 27 2015,09:00
Falcons cut Old Man Jackson and Harry Douglas.  Latter seems weird because I'd sooner trade Roddy.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 27 2015,10:10
< Great article about the real problem with the Browns. >

I'm sure Stranger knows everything in the article, but some of that stuff I didn't know.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 27 2015,10:47
QUOTE
Jimmy is way too hands on," said one team source. "He's like Jerry Jones, only without the football knowledge.

Ouch.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 01 2015,11:34
< The Browns > sign another scrub QB for reasons beyond understanding.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 01 2015,11:59
I can neither agree nor disagree with the move.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 02 2015,10:08
< Steelers GM kind of shits on "Veteran Combine". >

I realize he tries to be polite about it, but doesn't he basically condemn the whole idea?

I can rest easy knowing we won't be signing Vince Young.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 02 2015,10:42
I think combines in general are stupid.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 02 2015,10:53
< Beast Mode > on the play ... again.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2015,08:35
< The Chargers seem like they end up staying put. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2015,11:14
< Lions do not tag Suh >.  Probably because they want to be rid of his asshole antics.

< Old Man Johnson > catching for Indy?

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2015,13:37
< More on Andre >.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2015,18:42
< McCoy to the Bills for nothing. >

QUOTE
Lions do not tag Suh.  Probably because they want to be rid of his asshole antics.


That's not a bad theory. "If we keep him, great. If not, that's a cancer gone and we saved a lot of money."

QUOTE
More on Andre.


And that's why their organization sucks.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 04 2015,10:49
< Whoa >, Shady to Buffalo?
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 04 2015,11:50
Look up, you were scooped by a full day. And you dare bash me for not searching...
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 04 2015,11:56

(Leisher @ Mar. 04 2015,13:50)
QUOTE
Look up, you were scooped by a full day. And you dare bash me for not searching...

I read that entire post except for the link at the top.  My brain usually filters out anything with "Bills" in it because I know they'll still lose.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 05 2015,05:55
< Suh to Dolphins? >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 05 2015,07:23

(Leisher @ Mar. 05 2015,07:55)
QUOTE
< Suh to Dolphins? >

Picking up the asshole baton right where Incognito dropped it.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 05 2015,09:44
I don't think Suh and Incognito belong in the same category.

Incognito might be an asshole, but I think the other dude in that scandal bore a lot of the responsibility. I think he used Incognito as a way out.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 05 2015,11:00
< Jets will trade #6 to Eagles if Mariotta is still on the board. >
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 06 2015,08:12
< Reggie Wayne and the Colts are parting ways. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 06 2015,09:16
< Jets killing > another WR's career.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 06 2015,09:33
What a massive FU to Marshall by the Bears.

Marshall is going to miss Cutler.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 06 2015,14:57
< Lynch back > for the 'Hawks.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 08 2015,12:21

(Leisher @ Mar. 05 2015,07:55)
QUOTE
< Suh to Dolphins? >

< What's larger than Suh's ego >?  His contract with Miami.
QUOTE
Suh's pact will be for six years and $114 million, with $60 million of that sum guaranteed in the first three years, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

Keep rewarding the assholes.

< Chris Johnson > gets a shot in the arm.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 08 2015,14:32
< Gore to Eagles. >

< Maxwell too. >

Maybe Kelly is doing something right in Philly, but he could have gotten more for Shady.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 08 2015,19:28
The 49ers are going to rely on Mr. Hyde, it looks like.  Until they ditch Kaep, they'll going to be a perennial one-and-done team.


Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 09 2015,05:55

(Malcolm @ Mar. 08 2015,22:28)
QUOTE
The 49ers are going to rely on Mr. Hyde, it looks like.  Until they ditch Kaep, they'll going to be a perennial one-and-done team.

I'll go ahead and wager that they aren't even a 1 this year.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 09 2015,06:41
It sucks that Hyde is trapped in SF. Hopefully he can do well enough to find his way to a good team once his contract is up.

< Maclin to KC. > I swear every story is about the Eagles getting a player or losing one.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2015,08:04
< Hoyer's a Houstonite >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2015,08:06

(TheCatt @ Mar. 09 2015,07:55)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 08 2015,22:28)
QUOTE
The 49ers are going to rely on Mr. Hyde, it looks like.  Until they ditch Kaep, they'll going to be a perennial one-and-done team.

I'll go ahead and wager that they aren't even a 1 this year.

< 49ers GM: > it doesn't matter how much he sucks, we still aren't trading him.

< The perfect match > for a QB that can't throw, a WR that can't catch consistently.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 09 2015,09:30
< Patrick Willis retires. >

The hits keep on coming for the 49ers.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2015,09:49
QUOTE
Longtime 49ers defensive lineman Justin Smith also plans to retire Tuesday, according to multiple reports.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 09 2015,10:08
I guess I can look forward to playing the 49ers in 2016, instead of the Rams yet again.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2015,11:34
< You almost can't > hear Steven Jackson over all the "old" drowning his words out.
QUOTE
The free-agent running back published a YouTube video on Monday plugging his new website: < www.savetherunningback.org. > In the video, Jackson calls three-down backs an "endangered species" and asks for help saving them.

And how do you do that? By emailing your team and asking them to play your favorite running back more. The website has an online form and everything.

You wonder if Barry Sanders is signing up.  Also, no word on Old Man Jackson's next campaign to bring back the leather helmets from the 1920s.



Posted by Leisher on Mar. 09 2015,12:08
< Stephen A. Smith implies Chip Kelly is a racist because of his recent roster moves. >

You know what you call someone who sees racism where there isn't any? A racist.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2015,12:11
QUOTE
Smith also failed to mention that the player Kelly acquired in the McCoy trade, Kiko Alonso, is Latino. And Smith fails to mention that the quarterback Kelly just signed to a new contract, Mark Sanchez, is of Mexican-American heritage. And Smith fails to mention that the quarterback Kelly desperately wants to draft, Marcus Mariota, is of Samoan heritage. And Smith fails to mention that the cornerback Kelly is expected to sign when free agency opens tomorrow, Byron Maxwell, is black. And Smith fails to mention that the running back Kelly is expected to sign when free agency opens tomorrow, Frank Gore, is black. If Kelly is a racist who wants to build a roster full of white guys, he’s doing a spectacularly bad job of it.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 09 2015,12:38
< The Eagles are the whitest team in football. >
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 09 2015,13:38
< The NFL isn't pleased with all these early signings. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2015,14:04
QUOTE
"The memo makes clear that we will look into any potential violations of the rules," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday.

So everyone but the Patriots will get fined?

EDIT: The Patriots, the NFL's answer to the SEC.



Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 09 2015,14:15

(Leisher @ Mar. 09 2015,16:38)
QUOTE
< The NFL isn't pleased with all these early signings. >

Shut the fuck up, NFL.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2015,16:18

(TheCatt @ Mar. 09 2015,16:15)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Mar. 09 2015,16:38)
QUOTE
< The NFL isn't pleased with all these early signings. >

Shut the fuck up, NFL.

< Revis > and < Browner > most likely not going back to Patriots.  Wonder how long until their new teams get leaked...



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2015,06:26
< Julius Thomas to the Jags >.  Uh, ok.  Headline in a few months: Julius Thomas remembers that Blake Bortles plays in Jacksonville.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2015,06:27

(Leisher @ Mar. 08 2015,16:32)
QUOTE
< Gore to Eagles. >

< Gore not going to Eagles >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2015,09:06
In one of the least surprising moves, < Harvin to be released >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2015,12:40
< Bowe gone >.

< Vereen > goes to Giants.

< Harry Douglas to the Titans >.

Posted by Stranger on Mar. 10 2015,12:52
Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks? WOW


..Ooops, forgot the < link >



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2015,12:54

(Stranger @ Mar. 10 2015,14:52)
QUOTE
Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks? WOW

Jimmy?  Christ, how long is that team going to carry on without a proper WR?
Posted by Stranger on Mar. 10 2015,12:59
Just heard on ESPN radio in Cleveland that Haloti Ngata is going to Detroit

Also, Sam Bradford to Philly for Nick Foles!  WTF is going on here!!



Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 10 2015,13:08
< FCC received 34 Super Bowl complaints >


Posted by Stranger on Mar. 10 2015,13:33
Didn't Philly just sign Sanchez? Bradford makes absolutely so sense in Philly, none at all, not in that offense.

And now I'm hearing Jake Locker is retiring! this is the craziest NFL offseason ever!

Now if only the Browns would just get Revis, the NFL world would just be turned on its head.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2015,14:17
QUOTE
Just heard on ESPN radio in Cleveland that Haloti Ngata is going to Detroit.

That's why they let Donkey Kong go.

Also, NO got Unger for Jimmy.

QUOTE
Also, Sam Bradford to Philly for Nick Foles!

Holy shit.  St. Louis pulled a steal.  A dude who's got one knee plus a draft pick for a semi-proven starter.  Most legit QB they've had there since Bulger.

QUOTE
And now I'm hearing Jake Locker is retiring!

I think he took a look at Sam Bradford and went, "Fucking no way."

< Broncos replace > Julius Thomas with Owen Daniels.

< Vikes > find Bridgewater's backup.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2015,16:08

(Malcolm @ Mar. 10 2015,08:27)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Mar. 08 2015,16:32)
QUOTE
< Gore to Eagles. >

< Gore not going to Eagles >.

< Maybe because Shady > told him to steer clear.
Posted by Stranger on Mar. 11 2015,04:36
The harsh reality of being a Browns fan.

This was written by a local beat writer who nails it, EXACTLY!

QUOTE
For 16 years, the Browns for the most part have been in a different league than the best NFL teams. You see it every Sunday if you have the luxury of watching NFL Red Zone.

The way the good offenses glide effortlessly down the field v. the Browns’ feeble stabs at first downs, their inept offense inevitably undermining the best efforts of their defense. It’s almost a different sport.

And that was the feeling I had on Tuesday watching the league pass by the Browns on the first day of the 2015 league season.

It was a gut-wrenching display of a flawed organization incapable of keeping up with the big boys. In only their second season together, the inexperienced tandem of GM Ray Farmer and coach Mike Pettine took on the appearance of lost baby dinosaurs.

The NFL entered a new warp speed on Tuesday, leaving the Browns sputtering in place like the same, worn-down treadmill they have personified for 16 years.

Nothing hit home harder than the news that the Eagles and Rams had been talking for weeks about exchanging high-profile quarterbacks Nick Foles and Sam Bradford.

The mega-deal was the headline of an unprecedented spate of dizzying, unforeseen, fantasy-like transactions.

The fact that the Browns could be content signing Josh McCown while knowing Foles and Bradford were available signifies the misdirected football acumen and leadership that plagues the franchise.

Their disdain for Brian Hoyer is one thing. Their infatuation with Johnny Manziel is another. Their stated belief that they can compete with the 36-year-old McCown tossing passes to Brian Hartline and handing off to Terrance West and Isaiah Crowell is, quite frankly, an insult to the collective intelligence of a suffering football populace steeped in the genius of Paul Brown.

Days like Tuesday cause me to wonder if the rest of us care more than them.

Not that the Browns’ inactivity should come as a surprise. It was expected. For they are either paralyzed by the colossal twin whiffs of Justin Gilbert and Manziel a year ago or are certifiably tanking the season in an elaborate Hail Mary pass play to land quarterback Cardale Jones in 2016. At this point, sign me up for that.

Honestly, I have no other explanation for their offseason moves thus far.

And the preposterous reported dalliance with hired-gun cornerback Darrelle Revis merely underscores the depth of the problem.

Let’s suppose, for one moment, that the Browns seriously entertained the notion of adding Revis, who ultimately signed with the Jets for $70 million -- $39 million of which is guaranteed. To think the Browns would invest anything close to that in a cornerback after a year ago making Joe Haden the sport’s highest paid cornerback – at the time -- at $67.5 million and then forsaking a much-needed receiver in the draft to select yet another cornerback with the eighth overall draft selection, Gilbert, is insane, given the team’s myriad deficiencies on offense.

The Patriots made a similar covenant with Revis a year ago. But even for them, blessed with the best coach and quarterback of their time, it took a heroic defensive play by a role player at the goal line against the worst play-call of all time for the Patriots to achieve their goal of a Super Bowl championship.

Maybe the agents of Revis led the Browns to believe there was a chance he would take his services to Cleveland. If so, shame on the Browns for going along with such a scam. Whatever energy was exerted on chasing the ghost of Revis could have been better used on pursuing a quarterback to restore faith in the locker room, much less the fan base.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 11 2015,05:48
< Worilds calls it quits. >

This is one of the odder retirements I've ever seen.

He's a free agent about to get paid, no injuries, and he just walks away?

Posted by Stranger on Mar. 11 2015,06:08
Willis, Worilds and Locker, all young guys that retired and left millions on the table.  Very odd.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2015,07:23

(TheCatt @ Mar. 10 2015,15:08)
QUOTE
< FCC received 34 Super Bowl complaints >

QUOTE
"I would like the purity of my daughters protected. This was essentially soft porn," wrote one father, who was angry about the Carl's Jr. commercial featuring a seemingly naked model.

If you let your daughter fuck TV commercials, then that's your problem.  Better cancel the Discovery channel.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2015,07:48
QUOTE
Now if only the Browns would just get Revis, the NFL world would just be turned on its head.

< Revis signs >.




With the Jets.  No dice, Stranger.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2015,07:55
QUOTE
Honestly, I have no other explanation for their offseason moves thus far.

Haslam's new head scout, rehired from last year:

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2015,07:56
QUOTE
He's a free agent about to get paid, no injuries, and he just walks away?

Maybe he wants to stay injury free.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2015,08:50
< Damn >.  Cortland Finnegan retires.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2015,17:04
< Eagles > sign a dude who should change his name so his initials are "IR."

Rams are also trying to resign Britt now that they've got a QB.  Even with the 49ers on the decline, the NFC West looks brutal as hell next year.



Posted by Leisher on Mar. 11 2015,18:04
I want to place a bet now that the 49ers finish last in that division.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2015,18:15
Scary facts:

1) The Rams held their own against Seattle for the first half of their games.
2) The Rams defend the TE position well, for some reason.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 12 2015,07:48
< Murray to Eagles? >
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 12 2015,09:54
< Interesting article about the 3 big trades. >

If you want to see how the business operates off the field, this is a really good article.

Two big factoids that came out of it are the cap hits NO and Baltimore will take next year from a single position, QB. Expect contract extensions for Brees and Flaco or a parting of ways...

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2015,13:14

(Leisher @ Mar. 12 2015,09:48)
QUOTE
< Murray to Eagles? >

< Looks likely >.

< Browner > to NO.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2015,15:11

(Malcolm @ Mar. 12 2015,15:14)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Mar. 12 2015,09:48)
QUOTE
< Murray to Eagles? >

< Looks likely >.

< I'm calling it >, the new M&M boys.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 12 2015,15:12
Eagles - I guess it's good to have two running backs when your QB is going to be injured all year.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2015,15:14

(TheCatt @ Mar. 12 2015,17:12)
QUOTE
Eagles - I guess it's good to have two running backs when your QB is going to be injured all year.

Neither of their RBs has the greatest injury history.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2015,15:15
< Guess who Indy waived >.


Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2015,20:12
< The Browns have > another banner day.  The only pass catcher worth a damn just jumped ship.


Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 12 2015,20:17

(Malcolm @ Mar. 12 2015,17:15)
QUOTE
< Guess who Indy waived >.

< This is almost > painful to watch.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 13 2015,09:38
< Run DMC >.  To Dallas.  Wtf?
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 13 2015,10:39
RBs just don't matter any more?
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 13 2015,10:56
< Kenny Stills to Miami >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 13 2015,15:23
< Percy's in Buffalo >.

< Leish's man-crush > is staying put.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 13 2015,20:08
And we signed DeAngelo Williams today.

Word.

I think you should tease me about Gradkowski as my man crush since I eat at his restaurant.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 14 2015,09:42
Word on the street yesterday was the Vikes signed Mike Wallace.  < Yep >.  Jennings, Patterson, and Wallace.  Now all we need's a defense and an offensive line.  Oh, and a running game, and some improvement from Bridgewater.  But once those few minor roles are filled by a couple dozen trades, free agents, and draft picks, I'm sure we'll be cool.

< Saints acquire a bust >.

< Patriots looking for > the next RB who can frustrate fantasy owners.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 14 2015,16:27

(Malcolm @ Mar. 14 2015,11:42)
QUOTE
< Patriots looking for > the next RB who can frustrate fantasy owners.

< 49ers > beat them to it.  This is not a good match.  Reggie had enough problems dealing with the Bears, Packers, and Vikes twice a year.  The Rams, Seahawks, and Cardinals are going to eat his balls and spit them back in his face.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 15 2015,19:52

(Malcolm @ Mar. 14 2015,11:42)
QUOTE
Word on the street yesterday was the Vikes signed Mike Wallace.  < Yep >.  Jennings, Patterson, and Wallace.  Now all we need's a defense and an offensive line.  Oh, and a running game, and some improvement from Bridgewater.  But once those few minor roles are filled by a couple dozen trades, free agents, and draft picks, I'm sure we'll be cool.

< Well, no Jennings >.  But we still got Charles Johnson.

< Browns > determined to sign Dwayne Bowe.  Too bad they couldn't find a WR.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 16 2015,07:24
< Bears > still drinking the Cutler koolaid.
QUOTE
"Jay can be every bit of a Tom Brady, a Peyton Manning, an Aaron Rodgers," Slauson said. "He can be them, if not more."

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 16 2015,08:21
Maybe they're talking about checkers or something?
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 16 2015,08:40

(TheCatt @ Mar. 16 2015,10:21)
QUOTE
Maybe they're talking about checkers or something?

Jay Cutler can barely outplay Eli Manning.  At eating Oreos.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 16 2015,19:46
< Another 49er retires. >

This time it's a rookie.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 17 2015,08:01
< Schaub cut >.

< Tebow back >?

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 17 2015,10:39

(Malcolm @ Mar. 12 2015,22:17)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 12 2015,17:15)
QUOTE
< Guess who Indy waived >.

< This is almost > painful to watch.

< Raiders >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 17 2015,13:09
< Browns are batshit insane >.
QUOTE
NFL Media's Charley Casserly reported on Monday's edition of NFL AM that the Cleveland Browns offered a first-round draft pick for Bradford.
...
Casserly's source did not specify whether the Browns' offer was made to the Rams, Eagles or both teams.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2015,07:33
< Charles Clay to the Bills >.

< Colt McCoy back with Washington >.

< Bernie Pierce > guarantees himself a release.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 18 2015,07:36

(Malcolm @ Mar. 17 2015,16:09)
QUOTE
< Browns are batshit insane >.
QUOTE
NFL Media's Charley Casserly reported on Monday's edition of NFL AM that the Cleveland Browns offered a first-round draft pick for Bradford.
...
Casserly's source did not specify whether the Browns' offer was made to the Rams, Eagles or both teams.

How did I miss this news?

I can't believe Bradford is so coveted. I'll admit, he's not your typical bust, but all those injuries have to degrade his value don't they?

Posted by Troy on Mar. 18 2015,07:44
I take Cam for granted. And I have posters of the guy on my cubicle wall at work. Still take him for granted.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2015,07:46

(Troy @ Mar. 18 2015,09:44)
QUOTE
I take Cam for granted. And I have posters of the guy on my cubicle wall at work. Still take him for granted.

Just a matter of time until both Wilson and Cam slow down.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2015,10:37
< Wow. >  NFL shill spouts off.
QUOTE
Dr. Joseph Maroon — a neurosurgeon and NFL medical consultant — said that football has “never been safer” and while admitting that there’s room for improvement, he said “it’s much more dangerous riding a bike or a skateboard than playing youth football.”

Yeah.  I see a lot of 50-60 year old cyclists that seem like they're mentally 7 or 8.  When Tony Hawk reaches that age, I'm sure he'll be < like this >.
QUOTE
In a November 6, 2010, interview, McMahon admitted to having memory problems due to injuries suffered on the football field. McMahon was quoted as saying, 'There are a lot of times when I walk into a room and forget why I walked in there.'



Posted by Leisher on Mar. 18 2015,11:38
I think he has a point.

All he's saying is that it's irresponsible to just say "football did this" when the same injury/illness is seen elsewhere.

LOTS of people have played football and the vast majority never show signs of CTE. Ditto for smoking, drinking, drugs, exposure to radiation, the flu, the common cold, heat exposure, cold exposure, AIDS, etc.

Some people might be more vulnerable than others to CTE and that's his point. More work needs to be done to get to the bottom of why certain people get it and others don't.

CLEARLY football is a factor, but if it was the only factor everyone would get it. Ronnie Lott and Mel Blount used to deliver the hard hits in the NFL during a time when they led with their helmets, yet they're both fine.

Although, I think he's only right about the game being safer than ever. In terms of rules and equipment, yes. In terms of speed and size of the players, no.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2015,11:44
QUOTE
Some people might be more vulnerable than others to CTE and that's his point. More work needs to be done to get to the bottom of why certain people get it and others don't.

That's a huge unknown.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 18 2015,12:18

(Malcolm @ Mar. 18 2015,14:44)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Some people might be more vulnerable than others to CTE and that's his point. More work needs to be done to get to the bottom of why certain people get it and others don't.

That's a huge unknown.

But that's the point.

It's the same thing as Climate Change.

Yes, it's happening, but blaming it solely on human activity and ignoring everything else is irresponsible.

Again, head trauma is clearly an issue, but why does it seem like some people are more vulnerable than others? If they can find out why, those folks might be able to be identified.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2015,12:33
QUOTE
Yes, it's happening, but blaming it solely on human activity and ignoring everything else is irresponsible.

Same reason it take several jolts to kill some dudes in the electric chair and only one for others.  But in general, I'm pretty sure exposing myself to that amperage is not healthy.  Smashing into tall, muscular dudes that can run 40s in four and a half seconds generates a lot of force.  All it takes is a bit more on one part of your skull that's kind of weak.  Additionally, skateboarders and cyclists try NOT to run into shit.  That's the point of the sport and hobby.  Football makes collisions a fundamental part of the game.



Posted by Leisher on Mar. 18 2015,13:09
QUOTE
Same reason it take several jolts to kill some dudes in the electric chair and only one for others.  But in general, I'm pretty sure exposing myself to that amperage is not healthy.  Smashing into tall, muscular dudes that can run 40s in four and a half seconds generates a lot of force.  All it takes is a bit more on one part of your skull that's kind of weak.


Well I'm glad you've solved this for medical science. Please let them know your conclusions.

But seriously, duh, however there's no real evidence that there isn't some other factor that plays into this and that can't be ignored. The percentage of people affected to the extreme that's being hyped is low.

QUOTE
Additionally, skateboarders and cyclists try NOT to run into shit.  That's the point of the sport and hobby.  Football makes collisions a fundamental part of the game.


Bullshit. You want to do tricks, you're going to fall. You're going to get hurt. Nobody just grabs a skateboard and never falls off. Pain is a part of their game too. Nobody plays football to get brain damage. Nobody boxes to die (see the boxing thread). Nobody fights in the UFC to lose their life or be paralyzed. Nobody takes steroids with the intention of having bad side effects later in life.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2015,17:49
QUOTE
Well I'm glad you've solved this for medical science. Please let them know your conclusions.

QUOTE
Angular accelerations of 4600, 5900, or 7900 radian/s2 are estimated to have 25, 50, or 80% risk of MTBI respectively

They're already working on that shit, and they have numbers.  Problem is your concussion is related to how your body's twisting and taking trauma at the moment.  Every hit or series of hits is different.

QUOTE
In addition to immediate health effects, some injuries sustained during a player's career can have effects that extend to their post-career life. A cohort mortality study by researchers at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) examined 3,349 NFL players who played at least five full seasons from 1959 to 1988. The findings from this study suggest that, in comparison to the typical American male, NFL players live longer on average but have around three times the risk of death associated with neurodegenerative disorders. In particular, the risk of death from Alzheimer's disease and Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) was roughly four times higher among former players than the average American male.  The study also compared mortality risks from speed players (quarterbacks, running backs, fullbacks, wide receivers, tight ends, linebackers, cornerbacks, and safeties) and nonspeed players (offensive and defensive linemen), with findings indicating that a greater number of deaths were attributable to neurodegenerative disorders in speed players than nonspeed players. This may be due to the increased momentum of collisions from speed players.

Again, science is on this shit already.  Your skull is made to take some punishment.  Some.  It is not designed for heavy duty impact like < this motherfucker >.

QUOTE
You want to do tricks, you're going to fall. You're going to get hurt. Nobody just grabs a skateboard and never falls off. Pain is a part of their game too.

Falling's an unfortunate consequence of fucking up.  As you get better and better, you'll fall less and less doing more and more difficult things.  In the Olympic snowboarding events, at the highest level of that sport, there's more doing the trick than fucking up.  Football is designed such that most plays end with a tackle.  You can go out of bounds, get downed by contact, give yourself up, or score, but most of the time, someone has to knock your ass down.  Tackles are a result of one-half the dudes on the field doing their job a bit better than the other half.

As for boxing, I've said it time and time again, gloves were the worst thing that ever happened to that sport.  You invite nothing but headshots.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2015,17:49

(Malcolm @ Mar. 18 2015,09:33)
QUOTE
< Bernie Pierce > guarantees himself a release.

< Called it >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 19 2015,07:52
< Gore backhandedly > bitchslaps Kaep.
QUOTE
"When I knew I wasn't going back to the 49ers, my first option was I wanted to be with a great quarterback," Gore said. "I feel that you have to have a great quarterback to have a chance. Luck is a young quarterback and he does everything. He can throw. He can run. He's physical. He's a leader."


< AP not > getting cut from Vikes.

< Rivers > staying with Chargers.

< Check the one at the bottom >.  I missed that.  Eddie Royal got $10M?

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 19 2015,07:56
Poor Bears.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 19 2015,08:45
< Pouncey on Wallace >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2015,08:19

(Malcolm @ Mar. 18 2015,19:49)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 18 2015,09:33)
QUOTE
< Bernie Pierce > guarantees himself a release.

< Called it >.

< Vultured by Jaguars >.

< Santonio Holmes > is baffled why no one wants a washed up wideout past his prime with hands that are about as flexible as anvils.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2015,14:21
< Dolphins QB lineup >:

1) Matt Moore
2) Tarvaris Jackson
3) Ryan Tannehill

Gee, I wonder why Mike Wallace wanted the fuck out.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 22 2015,20:42
< Smartest guy in the NFL? >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 23 2015,07:38
Offensive lineman typically finish second in collective IQ after QB.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 23 2015,09:33
< Too good to be true >.
QUOTE
Cleveland is the front-runner to be featured on HBO's Hard Knocks training camp series in 2015.


< Old Man Harrison > back for up to two years.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 23 2015,10:27
The Steelers are as loaded on offense as they are barren on defense.

Very different from the Steelers teams I'm used to watching.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 23 2015,10:40
< Darren Sharper > probably going away for awhile.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 23 2015,12:54
< Raiders > reportedly staying in Oakland.  This is interesting because it puts a nix on the Rams moving back to LA.
QUOTE
Still, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport made it clear that a trio of clubs in Southern California isn't seen as "feasible" by the NFL.


< Chip Kelly > may want to invest in a QB coach.
QUOTE
Kelly explained why he brought Tebow in during a conversation with NFL Media's Steve Wyche at the NFL Annual Meeting in Arizona.

"I've always been a fan of Tim," Kelly said in an interview that will air tonight at 7 ET on NFL Total Access. "We bring in a lot of players for private workouts, it's just he's the one that everyone keeps talking about. We brought in Terrelle Pryor for a workout and Thad Lewis in for a workout. When players are available for you to work them out it's the same thing of going to the Veteran Combine or going to the Super Regional Combine.

After letting Nick Foles go for Sam Bradford, the Eagles are trying to get insurance from one of those three dudes?  My fucking god.  Hope Sam's ligaments hold out this year or he'll quickly become the next Chad Pennington.  < Jim Tomsula > should get on board that train.

< No blackouts >.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 24 2015,07:28
< Pats > owner details how potential LA teams should jump ship from their current rigs.

QUOTE
The Patriots' owner said that he feels bad for young children growing up in the Los Angeles area that haven't known a hometown team. He mentioned L.A. being a "showplace" for the league.

You're shitting me.  Maybe LA should try harder to hold on to a fucking team.

< Manziel getting ready > for the exciting preseason battle with Josh McCown.  I hear Johnny's doing 12 ounce curls every day.

< AP's agent: > playing for Vikes not "in Adrian's best interests."

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2015,07:37

(Malcolm @ Mar. 24 2015,10:28)
QUOTE
< Pats > owner details how potential LA teams should jump ship from their current rigs.

QUOTE
The Patriots' owner said that he feels bad for young children growing up in the Los Angeles area that haven't known a hometown team. He mentioned L.A. being a "showplace" for the league.

You're shitting me.  Maybe LA should try harder to hold on to a fucking team.

Atlanta takes a lot of shit, rightfully so, for being a bad town for sports because the fans suck. I think LA should be in that conversation as well.

They, like anyone, can support a winner, but they're late to arrive, early to leave, and don't really give a shit. They're a lot like Miami, another town that should be in the "worst sports cities" conversation.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 24 2015,09:49
< Titans > make sure that none of their current QBs will give a fuck.
QUOTE
"If (Marcus Mariota) comes to us at No. 2, he's definitely going to be the Day One starter"



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 24 2015,15:22
< Jimmy G almost > went to Miami.

< Redskins > thinking of looking for another bust at QB when draft comes around.

< Tone Loc > seems a bit overconfident in his offense.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 24 2015,15:28

(Malcolm @ Mar. 24 2015,18:22)
QUOTE
< Redskins > thinking of looking for another bust at QB when draft comes around.

At the least we have to throw that out there as trade bait.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 24 2015,16:03

(TheCatt @ Mar. 24 2015,17:28)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 24 2015,18:22)
QUOTE
< Redskins > thinking of looking for another bust at QB when draft comes around.

At the least we have to throw that out there as trade bait.

Bonus points if St. Louis trades for it again.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 25 2015,07:25
< Someone > thinks the Pats cheated.
QUOTE
The Jets filed tampering charges against Patriots owner Robert Kraft for Monday's comments referencing Revis...


< Vikes keeping > Patterson.  Goddamn, I hope Bridgewater doesn't suck.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 25 2015,07:31

(Malcolm @ Mar. 25 2015,10:25)
QUOTE
< Someone > thinks the Pats cheated.
QUOTE
The Jets filed tampering charges against Patriots owner Robert Kraft for Monday's comments referencing Revis...

This is just getting petty.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 25 2015,08:10

(Malcolm @ Mar. 24 2015,09:28)
QUOTE
< AP's agent: > playing for Vikes not "in Adrian's best interests."

< Vikings coach >: no fucking way.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 25 2015,11:43
< LA story > continues.

< PAT\XP > changes.

< 49ers > looking like their season will be a train wreck before it even starts.
QUOTE
"Reggie can be an every-down back. He's done that in the NFL," Tomsula said, pointing specifically to Bush's distant 1,086-yard campaign with the Dolphins in 2011.
...
"Reggie's a very good space player," Tomsula said. "Reggie can -- it's well-documented -- his skill set on third downs. Reggie's a guy -- he's a running back. He's not a gadget guy, in my opinion. I think Reggie Bush is a running back. I'm really excited about having Reggie joining the crew."

Wtf?

< Why the Eagles > wanted Bradford.



Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 25 2015,12:07
QUOTE
A college-type rule in which a defense could score a touchdown on a blocked kick or interception or fumble return on a two-point conversion.

I'm all for that.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 25 2015,13:38
< Pats did cheat with that formation. >

Did you think Kraft holds Goodell's head down when he's deepthroating him?

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 25 2015,14:17

(Leisher @ Mar. 25 2015,16:38)
QUOTE
< Pats did cheat with that formation. >

Did you think Kraft holds Goodell's head down when he's deepthroating him?

Pats didn't cheat.  The rule has changed.  To become better, imho.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 25 2015,15:18
Like the tuck rule, and the snow plow that was allowed to plow the field for the kicker, and destroying all Spygate evidence, and Deflategate, etc.

No, they're not cheaters.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 25 2015,17:31

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 25 2015,17:59

(Leisher @ Mar. 25 2015,18:18)
QUOTE
Like the tuck rule, and the snow plow that was allowed to plow the field for the kicker, and destroying all Spygate evidence, and Deflategate, etc.

No, they're not cheaters.

The tuck rule was the rule at the time.  It's not like they planned that.

The ineligible receiver thing was a great way to take advantage of the rules.  Not cheating.  Clever.

The snow plow thing was cheating.

Spygate was cheating.

Deflategate was probably cheating.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 26 2015,10:32
< Open mouth >, insert foot.


Posted by Leisher on Mar. 26 2015,10:36
Hilarious.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 27 2015,13:17
< INFL? >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 30 2015,07:16
< Redskins exec calls his own team > "nobody."
QUOTE
Nobody has given up on RGIII


< Jets might win five games > says a Jet.

< College coach > talks Bradford into injuring ACL for a third time.

< Medicore > team talks to mediocre receiver.



Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 30 2015,08:41
What's a JAG? (referenced in the article on Hicks).
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 30 2015,08:43
JAG = Just Another Guy?
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 30 2015,08:54
Poor Hicks, I loved that guy.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 30 2015,09:23

(Malcolm @ Mar. 30 2015,09:16)
QUOTE
< Medicore > team talks to mediocre receiver.

< Shitty team talks to shitty WR >.

< Browns > still get to keep all their busts this year.
QUOTE
... Browns general manager Ray Farmer was suspended without pay for the first four regular-season games of the 2015 season for his violation of the NFL's electronic device policy. The Browns have also been fined $250,000; Cleveland will not lose a draft pick.

Posted by Troy on Mar. 30 2015,09:32

(Malcolm @ Mar. 30 2015,09:23)
QUOTE
< Shitty team talks to shitty WR >.

lol - I'd sigh too buddy




Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 30 2015,09:37
QUOTE
Philly will add Austin to a group currently led by Jordan Matthews, Josh Huff and Riley Cooper.

Fixed.

< Dirty birds >.
QUOTE
The NFL fined the Falcons $350,000 and the franchise will forfeit their fifth-round selection in the 2016 Draft, the league announced Monday. President Rich McKay will also be suspended for at least three months from the Competition Committee beginning April 1.

The dude responsible?
QUOTE
Roddy White, the team's former director of event marketing, was directly responsible for the violation, the league stated.



Posted by Troy on Mar. 30 2015,10:17

(Malcolm @ Mar. 30 2015,09:37)
QUOTE
Roddy White, the team's former director of event marketing, was directly responsible for the violation, the league stated.

Ha, my brain short circuited and I had to look this up. No, not that Roddy.

This Roddy:



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 30 2015,10:25
I was hoping, just for a second, that I'd find out he was double-dipping as a player and director.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2015,07:46
< Browns have > "fantastic" pre-draft scouting.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 01 2015,15:16
< Bengals troll Browns. >
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 03 2015,09:41
< Run DMC > trolls everyone.

< Eagles want > another a QB.

< "The Eagles' offense is so revolutionary, it does not require a No. 1 wide receiver >."



Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 04 2015,07:48
< Jay Cutler signed football ignored at auction. >
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 05 2015,09:55
< Deion Sanders keeps it real for his son. >

That's good parenting.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 05 2015,11:08
Well, admittedly, he only said he liked hood donuts, not exactly that he was a hood thug.
Posted by Troy on Apr. 05 2015,14:26
As if the son wasn't getting enough ass in college.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 07 2015,09:37
< Jennings talking to Fins > after Crabtree got too expensive.  I will never understand why the Vikes let Jennings go.

Charles Johnson and Cordarelle Patterson running opposite Jennings and Wallace.  As long as Bridgewater's vertical, he ought to have a good shot at completing some throws.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 07 2015,10:07
< LeSean's > conspiracy theory.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 09 2015,07:30
< Bell > rung up for 3 games.

< "Johnny Manziel can be the long-term answer" >.  If the question is, "Who's got a line of blow or a flask?"

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 09 2015,12:37
< A day after > signing future scrub, Steven Ridley, the Browns sign current scrub, Rob Housler.  Looking to be a banner year for the Cleveland offense.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 10 2015,10:40
< Troy > retires.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 10 2015,11:45
End of an era in Pittsburgh.

Seems like we're only rebuilding on one side of the ball though.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 10 2015,13:26
< Buffalo > sets their hopes high so they can get knocked down, Cleveland style.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 10 2015,13:53

(Malcolm @ Apr. 10 2015,16:26)
QUOTE
< Buffalo > sets their hopes high so they can get knocked down, Cleveland style.

I hope they entered the drawing to buy tickets.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 12 2015,15:58
< Danger Russ > keeps throwing the two-sport idea out there.
QUOTE
The Texas Rangers then selected Wilson in the Rule 5 Draft in December 2013. Wilson has made a cameo at the team's spring training facility the past two years. He stepped in the batting cage earlier this month and went deep.

It's not like the Rangers are in postseason contention this year, so he could probably drop off the map when NFL preseason rolls around.

< Vikings new > stadium, the Bird Killer, gets something the Dome needed a bit ago.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 15 2015,09:30
Hernandez.  Guilty of murder one.  Life, no parole.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 15 2015,11:28

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 16 2015,09:05
< Fred Jackson > explains his "no hand jobs" policy.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 17 2015,09:30
< http://national.suntimes.com/nfl....a-trade >

That URL is to a rumor about Rivers being traded. The piece of shit Apple product I'm on won't allow me to hyperlink it properly without crashing the browser.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 17 2015,10:09
< Johnny Douchebag > to pick up a new drug habit.
QUOTE
"When (Manziel) is back, it will be full speed ahead for him,"

Speed has Lemmy's < seal of approval >.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 19 2015,16:58
< Eagles sign Tebow?!? >
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 19 2015,17:17

(TheCatt @ Apr. 19 2015,18:58)
QUOTE
< Eagles sign Tebow?!? >

Eh, as a 4th.  Then again, when your front QB is Bradford, that makes him a 3rd.  I imagine a gimmick play or two before a quick release during or slightly after preseason.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 19 2015,19:52
I still think the Eagles make some move for Mariotta.

< And here's a new rumor to support that. >



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 20 2015,08:48
Chip Kelly is going to make Shanahan's decisions look transparent if his off season moves are any indication.

< Downtown Tony Brown > holding out.

< AP > totally happy to show up for workouts.

< Brady is > the first to show at the Patriot facility.  Presumably to find more inventive ways to doctor with the football.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 21 2015,08:09
< Bills >: we got nothing.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 21 2015,10:45

(TheCatt @ Apr. 19 2015,18:58)
QUOTE
< Eagles sign Tebow?!? >

Here's why.  < Marketing >.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 22 2015,06:14


Potentially the best offense in the NFL and potentially the worst defense combined with this schedule?

Looks like a top ten draft pick for us next year!

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 22 2015,06:28
We play the AFC East and the NFC South, plus Bears/Rams.

If we were have decent, that could be the stepping stone to the playoffs.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 22 2015,07:25
49ers
Lions
Chargers
Broncos
BYE
Chiefs
Lions
Bears
Rams
Raiders
Packers
Falcons
Seahawks
Cardinals
Bears
Giants
Packers

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 22 2015,07:42
< Scrub > RB talks down soon-to-be rookie.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 22 2015,10:28
< Hernandez > probably getting sued well into his next life.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 22 2015,20:51
< Dolphins > complete WR swap with Vikes.

< Hardy > hardly playing this year.

Posted by Troy on Apr. 22 2015,21:04
Panthers first ever Thanksgiving football. Against the Cowobys. I'm at least moderately excited about this.

e: and because the NFL may really be all about the ratings - It's the week Hardy is un-suspended.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 23 2015,07:13
QUOTE
It's the week Hardy is un-suspended.

Suspension is due to his violation of team rules.  The 'Boys are bringing him back to face the Panthers.

Posted by Troy on Apr. 23 2015,09:50
I think it was handed down from the Commish, though.

Also, the Panthers and Titans swapped terrible left tackles. We got Michael "Blindside" Oher, and they got Byron "Turnstyle" Bell.  Not sure who won that one, I think we both lose.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 23 2015,11:12

(Troy @ Apr. 23 2015,11:50)
QUOTE
I think it was handed down from the Commish, though.

That fucker needs to retire.  Every time he disciplines someone, the words "pot" and "kettle" come to mind.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 24 2015,09:19
< Draft bust talk starting already >.

< Demaryius holding out >?

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 24 2015,10:30
< Tony Romo > has gotten into Jerry Jones's drug cabinet.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 25 2015,09:56
< Dirty Sanchez > talks shit about Flanders Tebow.
QUOTE
But according to Sanchez, the expectation is that Tebow won't be around once the regular season is underway.

"He's obviously a great guy, he works hard. And we needed another guy to throw while Sam's [Bradford] still recovering," Sanchez said Friday, via CSNPhilly.com. "So that's the reason [for the signing], at least as explained to me. We're excited about the upcoming year and I think we have a great group."

Hey Eagles, I'll send you a fruit basket if Tebow makes the regular season cut and you release Mark.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 27 2015,07:39
< More RG3 >?  Yeah, one more season.  The sitcom that is Washington's QB situation is renewed.

< AP staying with Vikes >, almost for certain.



Posted by Leisher on Apr. 27 2015,13:14
< Two rumors on how the Eagles will get Mariotta. >

Our Browns fans might want to read that article since both trades involve the Browns. One has them ditching Manziel!

Posted by Stranger on Apr. 27 2015,13:53
Not sure if Cleveland would give up 12 and Manziel for Bradford.  The word in Cleveland is that they had offered St. Louis a first round pick to them but the Rams said no thanks.  Now if it was 12 or 19 nobody knows.  

Right now Johnny has no trade value whatsoever, so I don't think that Cleveland will give up on him after 7 quarters of play.  So while nobody else values Johnny, Cleveland sort of has to, he was a first round pick and they have to see more of him.   It would basically be just throwing away last years 1st round pick, even if it does end up that he totally busts out.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 27 2015,15:58
Give the NFL season 2 weeks.  Someone will be desperate enough to trade for an alcoholic cokehead under center.  As for eating crow on busts sooner than later, ask the raiders if they want some of that JaMarcus money back.


Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 28 2015,10:46
< Dion Jordon > done for 2015 with drug suspension.

< Jets pay > $100K for Revis Island.

< Damn >.  Way to piss off the organization, Forte.

< NFL Commish > of being an Asshole tempts lightning to strike him again.
QUOTE
The National Football League’s central office will become a taxable entity, ending its tax-exempt status in a move with minimal financial effect and significant symbolic value.

Commissioner Roger Goodell informed team owners and members of Congress of the decision in letters dated Tuesday, saying he was eliminating a “distraction.”

I've got a few other distractions you could do away with.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 29 2015,07:11
< "Cleveland doesn't > need to draft a RB," say Cleveland RBs.  Speaking of Cleveland...
QUOTE
Pro Bowl cornerback Joe Haden told Kremer that Manziel has been a workhorse around the facility, staying later to study the new offense.

I wonder how many uppers he's on when he does.



Posted by Stranger on Apr. 29 2015,08:28
I wonder if Johnny will fall off the wagon after Cleveland drafts Mariotta and unceremoniously cut him?
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 29 2015,08:40

(Stranger @ Apr. 29 2015,10:28)
QUOTE
I wonder if Johnny will fall off the wagon after Cleveland drafts Mariotta and unceremoniously cut him?

They just need him to look presentable during preseason.  Trust me, there's a sucker born every minute and someone will toss a bone in exchange for Johnny Has-been.
Posted by Stranger on Apr. 29 2015,09:40
< Im really starting to believe this might happen. >

We heard last year that GM Ray Farmer coveted Mairota, but he decided to stay in college.  And we all know how much of a hard on Jimmy Haslam has for getting a star QB to run the show.

Posted by Troy on Apr. 29 2015,10:06
Tomorrow, I want the Panthers to draft that speedy WR from Ohio state. Think his name is Devin Smith. Otherwise, one of the 4-5 top OTs weve brought in for workouts.

Hell, id even take one of the few blue-chip CBs if they fall to us at 25.



Posted by Leisher on Apr. 29 2015,12:17
QUOTE
Im really starting to believe this might happen.


As a Steelers fan, I'm ok with that. Take that however you want.

QUOTE
Think his name is Devin Smith.


That's correct. The guy just knows how to get to the ball downfield. Do you have a nice possession receiver to compliment him?

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 29 2015,12:29

(Leisher @ Apr. 29 2015,14:17)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Im really starting to believe this might happen.


As a Steelers fan, I'm ok with that. Take that however you want.

QUOTE
Think his name is Devin Smith.


That's correct. The guy just knows how to get to the ball downfield. Do you have a nice possession receiver to compliment him?

Kelvin could do that.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 29 2015,13:00
< Wilson takes Ciara to White House dinner. >

First of all, I have no idea who Ciara is, so I'm old.

Also, wasn't Wilson married to some white girl? When did that end?

Posted by Troy on Apr. 29 2015,14:01
Right after Golden Tate banged her. Favorite comment from the deadspin article "once again, he won't be handing it off to Marshawn"


Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 29 2015,14:08
QUOTE
First of all, I have no idea who Ciara is, so I'm old.

Was biggest about 12ish years ago.  My buddy worked a club where she played.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 29 2015,17:23
At this point, I just want the damned draft to end.  It feels like it's been coming for longer than GoT winter.


Posted by Leisher on Apr. 29 2015,19:53
QUOTE
Right after Golden Tate banged her.


Is that legit or rumor?

Posted by Troy on Apr. 29 2015,21:55

(Leisher @ Apr. 29 2015,19:53)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Right after Golden Tate banged her.


Is that legit or rumor?

rumor. Tate denies it on twitter. Don't think Wilson has ever talked about it, before or after the divorce.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 30 2015,09:31
< Tripping Ball >.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 30 2015,10:52
< Bradford to Cleveland and Mariotta to Phily rumors continue on draft day. >

Yes, they even mention Bradford being resistant to signing a deal with Cleveland.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 30 2015,11:12
If Bradford goes to the Browns, I almost want him to be a top five QB for the irony alone.
Posted by Stranger on Apr. 30 2015,11:16
I don't buy it whatsoever.  Philly just needs Cleveland's first rounder to facilitate the trade to get up to 2.  As you said, Bradford doesn't wanna be in Cleveland and Bradford's agent was the same agent of Tim Couch and Brady Quinn so he has a bad history with QBs in Cleveland.

This is all Philly spin, they can't make the trade without Cleveland, so I hope the Browns stay pat and fuck over Philly.

Posted by Stranger on Apr. 30 2015,11:17

(Malcolm @ Apr. 30 2015,14:12)
QUOTE
If Bradford goes to the Browns, I almost want him to be a top five QB for the irony alone.

This is the nicest thing you've ever said about the Browns.  Almost brings a tear to my eye.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 30 2015,11:17
I think Philly's fucked either way.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 30 2015,11:21
I think Phily ends up with Mariotta somehow. The Titans clearly don't want him, and being "forced" to draft someone is worse than trading away your pick, even if those picks are busts.

Cleveland doesn't want to give what the Titans want, but Phily will. It's just a matter of the Titans and Eagles figuring out what to give Cleveland to get them involved.

Perhaps Cleveland gets left out entirely and someone else steps in as that third team?

Posted by Stranger on Apr. 30 2015,11:29
I just don't see how the Titans can get the deal done without another 1st round pick this year.  They would need to find a team willing to part with a first rounder, and what does Philly have to offer?  I think Bradford is it.  They are already trying to trade Cox and Kendricks in addition to two first rounders.  

I don't know, I think Philly's path to Mariota needs Cleveland. We'll see soon enough

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 30 2015,12:40
< Word on the street is that the Eagles are trying to make this happen. >
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 30 2015,18:58
Well that was a whole lot of speculation about nothing so far.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 30 2015,19:58
This draft is fucking BORING.
Posted by Troy on Apr. 30 2015,20:19
Panthers reached, but said they loved the guy in all the workouts and tape. The run on OT's killed us. Our GM just said the Cards took our last 1st round tackle a pick before.


Posted by TheCatt on May 01 2015,04:05

(Troy @ Apr. 30 2015,23:19)
QUOTE
Panthers reached, but said they loved the guy in all the workouts and tape. The run on OT's killed us. Our GM just said the Cards took our last 1st round tackle a pick before.

I hear La’el Collins  is still available.
Posted by TheCatt on May 01 2015,04:26
< Browns just gonna Brown. >
Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2015,07:09

(TheCatt @ May 01 2015,06:26)
QUOTE
< Browns just gonna Brown. >

Dude, do you know how hard it is to find a literate guy in Cleveland?
Posted by Leisher on May 01 2015,07:18

(TheCatt @ May 01 2015,07:26)
QUOTE
< Browns just gonna Brown. >

Stuff like that is minor and funny, but at the same time you do look at it and think, "They are poorly run from top to bottom."

I've been reading draft grades this morning, and my favorite quote about the Steelers' pick so far is this one:
QUOTE
Hey look, the Steelers got a steal in the first round of the draft.


My brother-in-law, and I believe Stranger, made the observation last year that all these studs somehow keep falling to Pittsburgh in the first round of the draft year after year. They're onto something because I did a little research...

First, nobody has ever drafted better than the Steelers did in 68-74. Then 75 to 96 their ability to grab decent first rounders took a nosedive. Some good players in there, but Woodson is the only real standout. A lot of busts.

Something happened in 97, and I honestly don't know what. Maybe Colbert took over more that year? I'm not sure, but the scouting department made a very positive change.

We started drafting well again, and also had players slide to us that shouldn't have like Roethlisberger, Heyward, Shazier, Simmons, Miller, Pouncey, and DeCastro. Meanwhile, we traded up three times for Hampton, Polamalu, and Holmes.

(The worst in this stretch was Troy Edwards, by a mile. The jury is still out on Jarvis Jones.)

I'm hopeful that Dupree continues our run of good first rounders.

QUOTE
Panthers reached, but said they loved the guy in all the workouts and tape. The run on OT's killed us. Our GM just said the Cards took our last 1st round tackle a pick before.


That's exactly what the draft reviews are saying. They wanted OL, but the draft ran out of them so they seem to have done a "best available" sort of thing.

For the other DTM favorite teams:
-Minnesota is getting decent reviews for Waynes.
-Cleveland is getting As for the first pick and Cs for that second pick.

Overall, I thought this draft was boring as shit. Weird to see two RBs come off the board in the first round, and the Chargers actually traded up to grab Gordon! I really wanted to see Mariotta go the Eagles, and I think the Titans are going to make him look bad.

Posted by TheCatt on May 01 2015,07:53
Redskins got a meh+... but our O-Line does suck nuts.

Yeah, the RB thing was a blast from the past.  They've been so unvalued lately.

Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2015,08:20
The Rams picked a RB?  The fuck?

The Vikes, ah ... the Vikes.  I'll admit their secondary isn't that great and could use help.  The O-line seems worse.

Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2015,08:30
QUOTE
Per sources, the Titans communicated to the Eagles last night that they'd have to top the Robert Griffin III deal to get Marcus Mariota.

Posted by Stranger on May 01 2015,10:00
I can hear it now...

"Pile in the car kids, lets go to the stadium and watch Danny Shelton plug the A gap"

or

"Hey honey, I'm going to the game today.  I've just gotta see Cam Erving execute the zone blocking scheme today!"

Posted by Leisher on May 01 2015,10:04

(Stranger @ May 01 2015,13:00)
QUOTE
I can hear it now...

"Pile in the car kids, lets go to the stadium and watch Danny Shelton plug the A gap"

or

"Hey honey, I'm going to the game today.  I've just gotta see Cam Erving execute the zone blocking scheme today!"

I take it you weren't thrilled with the Browns' draft?
Posted by Stranger on May 01 2015,10:11
No, actually I'm very happy with the picks.  I wanted either Shelton or Davante Parker at 12, I thought for sure the Vikings would take Parker being that he and Bridgewater were teammates at Louisville.  But Shelton was prolly the bigger need.

And the Erving pick is very good for Cleveland.  Alex Mack can opt out of his contract next year and highly doubt he will be back, so we needed depth at O-line and he can play every position.  You can ask your brother-in-law, I was hoping they would take Dupree there, but of course the Steelers get his ass...

I'm happy with both picks, not sexy but very smart and two highly rated guys for their positions.  Also, neither has any off the field issues, injury history, or any other marks against them.. No baggage like most Browns draft picks are.

Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2015,10:13
The real question is which homeless guy called the shots for Cleveland this time.
Posted by Stranger on May 01 2015,10:17
I'm just glad that Cleveland didn't look like the dumb asses of the draft.  They didn't overpay for Mariota or give into Philly with a Bradford trade.  Which I still say is the reason Philly couldn't get the trade done, they HAD to have another 1st rounder this year to make it work, Cleveland fucked Philly right in the ass.  I'll bet Chip Kelley is red assed today, now he's stuck with a piece of shit, worthless QB that doesn't fit in his system.  I guarantee the only reason Philly picked him up was in an attempt to trade him to Cleveland.. FAIL!!!


Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2015,10:19
< Pats > first rounder is begging fate for a season-ending injury.
Posted by Leisher on May 01 2015,10:56
QUOTE
No, actually I'm very happy with the picks.


You should be as despite not being sexy, they were solid. Being Cleveland, I am waiting for the other shoe to drop...

QUOTE
I'll bet Chip Kelley is red assed today, now he's stuck with a piece of shit, worthless QB that doesn't fit in his system.  I guarantee the only reason Philly picked him up was in an attempt to trade him to Cleveland.. FAIL!!!


I agree with this completely. However, I don't think Cleveland fucked them alone. Tennessee gets credit for their stupid asking price. The funny thing is Tennessee should have taken a deal. They don't have the coaching staff to develop Mariotta or change their offense to suit him. Remember how Whisenhut did with all the young QBs in Arizona? He's a defensive guy and he just brought on another defensive guy as his assistant head coach.

It's not just about how talented the player is, but how he fits in the system. I don't believe Mariotta will do great in Tennessee. He might, but there's definitely going to be some adjustments that need to be made.

How long are rookie contracts? 4 years?

What comes first?
1. Mariotta leaves Tennessee when his rookie contract is up and heads to the Eagles.
2. Mariotta struggles and Tennessee takes a lot less to send him to the Eagles in two years.

If the Eagles called tomorrow and offered next year's #1, Bradford, and those two or three defensive guys, Tennessee should take it and run.

Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2015,11:00
QUOTE
If the Eagles called tomorrow and offered next year's #1, Bradford, and those two or three defensive guys, Tennessee should take it and run.

I'd agree.  The Titans aren't doing shit anytime soon.  Even if they have Mariotta, there's no one else on that team worth a cup of watered down gatorade.  Mariotta's stock will never be higher than it is right now.

Posted by Leisher on May 01 2015,15:52
< https://www.yahoo.com/finance....20.html >

Tennessee got offered the world. They will regret turning it down. Even if they figure Mariotta is the next Manning, they also have to figure he's leaving for Philly in 4 years.

Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2015,16:28
QUOTE
Two first-round picks
One third-round pick
Fletcher Cox, the team's best defensive player
Brandon Boykin, nickel corner
Sam Bradford, starting quarterback
Mychal Kendricks, starting linebacker

Holy shit.  As a dude who's team is on the books on the wrong end for < one of the worst trades in NFL history >, I can't believe: (i) any sane person made this offer, and (ii) any sane person declined.  With a passable QB and some reasonably decent WR/RB support, they could at least be a second place lock in the div.



Posted by Leisher on May 01 2015,18:32
7 players, including 3 defensive starters and the fourth starts depending on the coverage package. The other 3 players would all be rookies.

All that for 1 completely unproven guy who doesn't fit their system and they take the unproven guy.

Wow.

Mariotta HAS to be the next great QB or the GM will lose his job over this rejection.

And what happens if he is, yet he leaves for Philly after his rookie contract?

If I'm a Titan fan, I'm livid.

Back to the draft, Carolina missed Devin Smith by 5 or so picks and got Funchess instead... Sorry Troy.

Posted by Malcolm on May 02 2015,09:04
QUOTE
Mariotta HAS to be the next great QB or the GM will lose his job over this rejection.

I'm trying to think of the last rookie QB that did well without anyone to throw to, run the ball, pass protect, play defense, or even punt respectably.

Posted by Troy on May 02 2015,12:26

(Leisher @ May 01 2015,18:32)
QUOTE
Back to the draft, Carolina missed Devin Smith by 5 or so picks and got Funchess instead... Sorry Troy.

Bummer. I didn't know much about Funchess, but seems to compliment the way Cam throws. When he misses he missed up, that's why KB got that 1k season even when occasionally fucking up. Could be great next to each other.

Finally got OT help this morning, some RT from Okahoma. Also, WHY DO WE KEEP DRAFTING SO MANY LINEBACKERS

e: A RB from Alabama



Posted by Leisher on May 02 2015,12:51
QUOTE
I didn't know much about Funchess, but seems to compliment the way Cam throws.


He dropped a LOT of balls thrown his way. Up here we heard all season how he was an NFL talent, but he never seemed to do anything special.

Posted by TheCatt on May 02 2015,13:24
Redskins picked up an OSU WR... whose brother works for the Redskins as a scout.  Hmmm.
Posted by Leisher on May 02 2015,13:30

(TheCatt @ May 02 2015,16:24)
QUOTE
Redskins picked up an OSU WR... whose brother works for the Redskins as a scout.  Hmmm.

In the 6th round, Evan Spence is a steal. Solid possession receiver.
Posted by Troy on May 02 2015,18:31

(Leisher @ May 02 2015,12:51)
QUOTE
QUOTE
I didn't know much about Funchess, but seems to compliment the way Cam throws.


He dropped a LOT of balls thrown his way. Up here we heard all season how he was an NFL talent, but he never seemed to do anything special.

well fuck
Posted by Malcolm on May 04 2015,07:06
< Muscle Hamster > on the outs.

< TPR is released by the Raiders >.

< Irsay > expecting a lot of Luck.

< Chip Kelly > takes the "craziest coach in the NFL" torch from Mike Shanahan.

< Who the fuck > is going to be in the backfield in Dallas?



Posted by Malcolm on May 04 2015,11:47
< Hardy pulls a Jeselnik >.
Posted by Leisher on May 04 2015,14:09

(Malcolm @ May 04 2015,14:47)
QUOTE
< Hardy pulls a Jeselnik >.

No, Jeselnik is funny.
Posted by Malcolm on May 05 2015,13:05
< John Carlson > retires at 30.

< Player calls out Bengals during draft >.  < Team calls his bluff >.

Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2015,10:16
< Would the real shady > please stfu?
QUOTE
You see how fast he got rid of all the good players. Especially all the good black players. He got rid of them the fastest. That's the truth. There's a reason. ... It's hard to explain with him. But there's a reason he got rid of all the black players -- the good ones -- like that.

Posted by Troy on May 06 2015,10:19
< Demarco Murray, notable bad black player. >
Posted by Troy on May 06 2015,10:20
Apologies for the Breaking Benjamin in that highlight clip, it was found hastily and I don't have the effort to find a better one.

e: and wow do the pulling Cowboy guards do some WORK on some of those runs.



Posted by Leisher on May 06 2015,10:37

(Malcolm @ May 06 2015,13:16)
QUOTE
< Would the real shady > please stfu?
QUOTE
You see how fast he got rid of all the good players. Especially all the good black players. He got rid of them the fastest. That's the truth. There's a reason. ... It's hard to explain with him. But there's a reason he got rid of all the black players -- the good ones -- like that.

Someone needs to explain to shady that:
1. The race card has been played so often that nobody gives a fuck anymore.
2. His bitterness over being dumped is apparent to everyone. He sounds like a 15 year old girl who got dumped before homecoming.

Posted by TheCatt on May 06 2015,11:33
< PATRIOTS CHEATED >

QUOTE
The New England Patriots likely deflated footballs in January’s AFC Championship Game to gain a competitive edge, an independent investigator found.

A report by lawyer Ted Wells said that Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was “at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities” of two Patriots employees who were deflating footballs. The Patriots won the game over the Indianapolis Colts and went on to win Super Bowl XLIX.

A smaller football can be an advantage for a quarterback who likes a firmer grip or who has smaller hands. The report cited numerous text messages between locker-room attendant Jim McNally and equipment assistant John Jastemski, who discuss the intentional deflation of footballs and Brady’s requests to change the amount of air in game balls.

The report absolved Patriots coach Bill Belichick and Patriots ownership. Brady, who wasn’t immediately available for comment, has denied deflating the footballs.

The NFL is expected to hand down punishments in the coming weeks. It is unclear how serious the league finds the alleged infractions.



Posted by TheCatt on May 06 2015,11:34
Brady should be banned from football.
Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2015,11:36

(TheCatt @ May 06 2015,13:34)
QUOTE
Brady should be banned from football.

So should Bill.  There's no fucking way he didn't know.  The trophy, championship, and everything along with it should be retroactively forfeited to Seattle.  I'd further penalize them cash and draft picks.  This is un-fucking-acceptable.  Where's the commish to come down on this as hard as he did when teams were "leaking" free agent contracts details.



Posted by TheCatt on May 06 2015,12:38
I can buy that Bill didn't know.  And there's no hard evidence to point to him.

But Brady should be banned, at least 1 year.

Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2015,13:01

(TheCatt @ May 06 2015,14:38)
QUOTE
I can buy that Bill didn't know.  And there's no hard evidence to point to him.

But Brady should be banned, at least 1 year.

< Kraft responds >.
QUOTE
What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts' four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under inflated footballs. As compelling a case as the Wells Report may try to make, I am going to rely on the factual evidence of numerous scientists and engineers rather than inferences from circumstantial evidence.


WOW.  As for the numerous scientists and engineers he's relying on, I hope he's got a lot, because the dudes that did the report sure as shit do:

QUOTE
As  noted  above,  Paul,  Weiss retained  Exponent  to  assist  with  our  investigation.  Exponent is one of the leading scientific and engineering consulting firms in the country.  It has approximately 900 scientists, physicians, engineers, and regulatory consultants on staff in twenty offices throughout the United States as well as five offices overseas.
... Dr.  Caligiuri
has  a  background  in  both  materials  science  and  mechanical  engineering.

Thinking he can calculate pressure just fine.

Looks like Brady, Sr. is kind of a dick, too.
QUOTE
The reality is if you can't prove he did it, then he's innocent, and lay off him.

I can't prove Ted Kennedy made a conscious decision to swim away and leave a woman to die.  I got all kinds of arrows pointing in that direction, though.

Hey, hey.  Tweets between two equipment monkeys:
QUOTE
   McNally: Tom sucks … im going make that next ball a [expletive] balloon

   Jastremski: Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done …

   Jastremski: I told him it was. He was right though…

   Jastremski: I checked some of the balls this morn… The refs [expletive] us…a few of then were at almost 16

   Jastremski: They didnt recheck then after they put air in them

   McNally: [Expletive] tom … 16 is nothing…wait till next sunday

   Jastremski: Omg! Spaz


QUOTE
   McNally: You working

   Jastremski: Yup

   McNally: Nice dude….jimmy needs some kicks….lets make a deal…..come on help the deflator

   McNally: Chill buddy im just [expletive] with you ….im not going to espn……..yet

Jimmy's fucked.



Posted by Troy on May 06 2015,13:26
ha, so self aware of what they were doing, and yet not aware of what it could mean.
Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2015,07:30
Notice how the commish hasn't said shit about this?
Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2015,08:54
< Brady's > agent, who no doubt trained under Lucifer himself, accuses the NFL of ethical breach.
QUOTE
What does it say about the league office's protocols and ethics when it allows one team to tip it off to an issue prior to a championship game, and no league officials or game officials notified the Patriots of the same issue prior to the game?


They also don't understand football.
QUOTE
It was clear to me the investigators had limited understanding of professional football.

They have PhDs in hard sciences flowing out their assholes, but pro football is beyond their mental grasp.

It's like the NFL and MLB are having a contest this week to see whose sport is the most corrupt.



Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2015,10:16
Thought:

What if a sport made juicing legal, so long as the player publicly admitted it and allowed such facts to be noted in the record books?

Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2015,10:19

(TheCatt @ May 06 2015,13:34)
QUOTE
Brady should be banned from football.

< Better >.
Posted by Troy on May 07 2015,10:23
What? The Raiders have Carr and Cooper now, they are fine. They need defensive help. Maybe a RB.
Posted by TheCatt on May 07 2015,10:35

(Malcolm @ May 07 2015,13:19)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ May 06 2015,13:34)
QUOTE
Brady should be banned from football.

< Better >.

SWEET JUSTICE!
Posted by Leisher on May 07 2015,10:39
Fuck the Patriots. Fuck all their smug asshole fans who think their championships are clean.

The Patriots are the SEC of the NFL.

And Brady's asshole lawyer... Hey dickweed, you want to talk about ethics? Bring up how the NFL destroyed all the evidence after SpyGate. Evidence that nobody outside of the NFL saw. You know what that tells me? It was far worse than what we heard about.

Why couldn't they seem to win a Super Bowl after that? Oh wait, they did, but in the shadow of yet another cheating scandal. A scandal that they're not trying to pretend didn't happen despite the evidence and despite the fact that apparently the rest of the league knew about the Patriots deflating their balls.

And why does nobody bring up how their defense is to just throw up tons of explanations without actually saying "this is what happened". They're just trying to cast doubt.

Seriously, fuck that whole organization from top to bottom. They are single handedly ruining the integrity of the sport.

The best part of this is that all "Who's the best ever, Manning or Brady?" conversations should start and end with: "Well, Manning wasn't a cheater."

Posted by Stranger on May 07 2015,11:17
...And after all of this, smoking weed still has the harshest punishments in the NFL!
Posted by Leisher on May 07 2015,11:20
If anyone in the MSM had balls they'd be all over that.

As much as I like Bill Simmons, I don't respect how he took such a stand against Goodell during the Ray Rice thing, but blows off Spygate and Deflategate. I'm sure him being a huge New England fan has nothing to do with it...

Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2015,11:34

(Stranger @ May 07 2015,13:17)
QUOTE
...And after all of this, smoking weed still has the harshest punishments in the NFL!

Nope.  Josh technically got nailed for the entirety of this season because he had a drink on a flight from Vegas.  Granted, he had a lot of history play into that.  But still, booze.  One season.  Gone.
Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2015,14:47
< Did the Goodell-bot > have a press conference?
QUOTE
We have heard from NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, and many players from around the league since the report came out.

Really?  Fucking when?

QUOTE
McNally took two bags of game balls from Officials Locker Room before start of AFC Championship without receiving permission of referee Walt Anderson. Anderson says that had never happened before in his career.
...
Richard Farley, security rep for the Patriots and the NFL said he has never been in a situation before the AFC Championship Game where the game balls could not be located.
...
McNally claimed he stopped in the restroom and used a urinal. Indicated he has used that bathroom near the field entrance while in possession of the game balls "many times." That bathroom has no urinal.
...

Ouch.



Posted by TPRJones on May 07 2015,16:10
In related news, the janitorial staff of Gillette Stadium finally know who's been pissing in the trash cans.
Posted by Stranger on May 08 2015,06:46
< Ed Reed loves Cleveland QBs >

I can see why, they pretty much made him a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2015,07:16
I'm sure the Globetrotters love them some Generals.
Posted by Troy on May 08 2015,08:16
< Everyone loves Mariota. >

Or not - lol

Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2015,10:12
< Chris Christie > throws his considerable weight behind Tom and the Pats.
QUOTE
"So here's Tom Brady – great-looking guy, wealthy beyond imagination, married to Gisele Bündchen and four Super Bowl" wins, Christie told reporters Thursday during a press conference in New Hampshire.

"You know? There are some people who just want to take a shot at Tom Brady because it seems that Tom Brady's life is almost too perfect."



Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2015,10:18
Josh Brent retires.
Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2015,13:12
< Pryor > takes a shot with the Bengals and vice-versa.

< Cowboys are high >.  They claim it's "on their RBs."  I claim it's "on crack."

< Browns coach > on Brady.

Posted by TheCatt on May 08 2015,18:05
< Olbermann calls for 1 year ban for Brady. >
Agree.

Posted by TheCatt on May 08 2015,18:14
< Jaguars lose 1st rd (#3) pick to injury already. >
Posted by Leisher on May 08 2015,18:18
Holy shit, that's Cleveland luck right there.

In other news, < reports are coming out that Brady will be suspended next week. >

Early rumors have it at a year. Per that link the Patriots seem to be worried it'll be 6-8 games.



Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2015,10:38
Any penalty that lets them keep the championship is a joke.  I don't think they'll give a fuck about losing Tom for 50 or 100% of a season.  They will give a fuck about the trophy being taken away.


Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2015,12:40

(Malcolm @ May 09 2015,13:38)
QUOTE
Any penalty that lets them keep the championship is a joke.  I don't think they'll give a fuck about losing Tom for 50 or 100% of a season.  They will give a fuck about the trophy being taken away.

They won't take the trophy.  The Super Bowl is the Super Bowl, the end.
Posted by Leisher on May 09 2015,15:24
I'm enjoying listening to Pats fans try to rewrite history.

"We beat them 45-7! Deflated balls didn't mean shit!"

No dummies, that's the game the NFL decided to actually investigate. The entire league has been talking about the difference in your footballs for years.

The stats posted earlier in this thread showing how your team magically stopped fumbling despite using no name RBs that fumbled plenty when they played with other teams indicate maybe the balls weren't just under-inflated.

And again, the NFL destroyed all evidence of SpyGate to protect the integrity of the game.

You've won 4 super bowls. I challenge you to win 1 without cheating.

Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2015,19:17
< Military branches paid NFL for salutes to military. >

Really?

Redskins often had salutes to veterans at the games.  Not on the list as having received $ for it though.



Posted by Malcolm on May 10 2015,09:31
QUOTE
The Department of Defense offers a breakdown (below) of payments since 2011. Teams that received taxpayer funds include the Baltimore Ravens ($799,000), Cincinnati Bengals ($138,960) Cleveland Browns ($22,500), the Green Bay Packers ($600,000), Pittsburg Steelers, ($36,000) Minnesota Vikings ($605,000), Atlanta Falcons ($1,049,500) Indianapolis Colts ($620,000), Buffalo Bills ($679,000), Dallas Cowboys ($62,500), Miami Dolphins ($20,000), Kansas City Chiefs ($250,000), St. Louis Rams ($60,000), and the afore-mentioned Jets.


1) Since when the fuck does aforementioned need a hyphen?

2) The Falcons got over $1M?

3) This has been a great month for sports.  Sham boxing fights solely for profit, juicers crowding out legit players in MLB.  The NFL ... goddamn ... just the NFL.

Posted by Malcolm on May 10 2015,16:34
< Browns praying to god > that Johnny Rehab can outdo Josh McCown.  Because if he can't, he might as well retire now.
Posted by Malcolm on May 11 2015,07:52
< Funky Fred Davis > is willing to look past the questionable tactics of NE.
Posted by TheCatt on May 11 2015,16:20
QUOTE
The league announced Monday that quarterback Tom Brady was suspended four games, the team was fined $1 million and will lose its 2016 first-round draft pick and a fourth-round pick in 2017.


< Article. >

Weak.

Posted by Stranger on May 11 2015,17:28
So the Patriots have to start the season without a QB? Big deal, Cleveland does that every year.
Posted by Malcolm on May 11 2015,17:45
Remember the Chappelle's Show bit where he wondered what it'd look like if cops reversed their treatment of street thugs and white collar criminals?  We need someone to do the version where the Patriots are treated like every other shitty NFL team.
Posted by Leisher on May 11 2015,19:01
This was a slap on the wrist for someone caught cheating for quite some time.

And the second time for the team in 8 years.

Horseshit.

Posted by Malcolm on May 11 2015,19:32
QUOTE
Don Yee, said in a statement, via Fox Sports' Mike Garafolo: "The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. ...

In?  The?  Fuck?

The NFL commish couldn't be reached for comment because he was busying deepthroating Bob Kraft.

Posted by Malcolm on May 12 2015,07:29
Here comes the bus:
QUOTE
"Patriots owner Robert Kraft advised Commissioner Roger Goodell last week that Patriots employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th. Neither of these individuals may be reinstated without the prior approval of NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent," the league's statement reads.

The Pats toss the two little dudes right under it.  Class act, asswipe.



Posted by TheCatt on May 12 2015,08:25
QUOTE
Patriots owner Kraft offers QB Brady 'unconditional support'

Well, duh, he's been supporting cheaters more than a decade, why stop now?

Posted by Malcolm on May 12 2015,10:40
< Harry Reid >:
QUOTE
I find it stunning that the NFL cares more about how much air is in a football than it cares about a racist franchise name.

Team needs to change its name to the Washington All Politicians are Overpaid Fuckos and call it even.



Posted by TPRJones on May 12 2015,12:40
Just rename them the Washington Corruption.  As their mascot have cartoon versions of whomever is the leader of the Republican and Democratic parties.  They spend their time at the games sort of pretending to fight with each other, but mostly sucking each other off.
Posted by Malcolm on May 12 2015,13:14
< Wells responds >.
QUOTE
Wells said that Brady worked with him on most aspects of the investigation, including a face-to-face interview in which the Patriots star was "totally cooperative." That responsiveness ended when Wells sought information on Brady's cell phone.

"I said that I don't want to see any private information," Wells said. "I said, 'You keep the phone, you the agent, Mr. Yee. You can look at the phone, you give me documents that are responsive to this investigation and I will take your word that you have given me what's responsive.' And they still refused."
...
"I believe the conclusions have been proven. I used the words 'more probable than not' because that is what's in the rules."

Suck it, Patriots.

Posted by TheCatt on May 12 2015,14:24

(Malcolm @ May 12 2015,16:14)
QUOTE
QUOTE

"I believe the conclusions have been proven. I used the words 'more probable than not' because that is what's in the rules."


Posted by Malcolm on May 13 2015,12:04
< Winston's old coach > slams him.

< 49ers > brag about the Kaep-Bush connection.

< The optimism bug > bites EJ Manuel.  For some reason.

I love all the off-season player highs.  It makes the crashes during the season that much more enjoyable.



Posted by Leisher on May 13 2015,17:04
< http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015....ya5nbcs >

Teams knew years ago about Brady using illegal balls.



Posted by Malcolm on May 13 2015,18:20
Odell made the Madden cover.  Let's see if the < curse > comes down on his head.
Posted by Malcolm on May 14 2015,09:01
< Kraft > probably wishes he didn't "welcome the NFL investigation."
Posted by Malcolm on May 14 2015,11:57
< NFL fans > mostly think Pats cheated like bitches.
Posted by Malcolm on May 14 2015,12:39
< Jerry, just wtf >?
QUOTE
"When you say the entire running game -- and that would be including our tight ends, including fullbacks, the entire game -- we're better. We're better," Jones said Wednesday at the team's annual golf outing.
...
Darren McFadden, Joseph Randle, Lance Dunbar and Ryan Williams currently make up the Cowboys' running back depth chart.

2 dudes who collect injuries like most people collect coins and 2 completely unproven dudes.  Yeah, real winners right there.

Posted by Troy on May 14 2015,12:44
Why the hell didn't they draft a RB. Just makes completely no sense. This draft was full of them, even the late rounds.
Posted by Malcolm on May 14 2015,19:29
< Brady's appeal >.
QUOTE
"If Ted Wells and the NFL believe, as their public comments stated, that the evidence in their report is 'direct' and 'inculpatory,' then they should be confident enough to present their case before someone who is truly independent."

Says Brady's agent.  Sucking New England's dick = independent.

Posted by Leisher on May 14 2015,19:31
New England sounds like Lance Armstrong except the public isn't on their side.
Posted by Malcolm on May 15 2015,08:24
< Mettenberger theatens Mariota's life >.
QUOTE
"But people who know me know I'm not going down without a fight to the death."

Posted by Malcolm on May 17 2015,11:26
< Bob Kraft > buys off Jack Del Rio.

< Hah >.
QUOTE
So now you have a commissioner who lacks credibility hearing the appeal of a champion organization that lacks credibility. The league's independent investigator wrote 243 pages worth of incrimination to protect the integrity of its game, and the Patriots filed a lawyerly 19,600-word rebuttal to protect their integrity, and none of us still really understand empirically how much of an advantage was actually gained by breaking a random rule none of us knew was a rule. And the independent investigator then had to do a conference call to protect his independence and his 243 pages because nobody trusts anybody in this transaction. It's like watching the ending of "The Departed."

Posted by Malcolm on May 18 2015,09:01
< Are you shitting me, Bob Kraft >?
QUOTE
I just get really worked up. To receive the harshest penalty in league history is just not fair. The anger and frustration with this process, to me, it wasn't fair. If we're giving all the power to the NFL and the office of the commissioner, this is something that can happen to all 32 teams. We need to have fair and balanced investigating and reporting. But in this report, every inference went against us ... inferences from ambiguous, circumstantial evidence all went against us. That's the thing that really bothers me.

Shove a football up your ass sideways.

Posted by Malcolm on May 19 2015,07:45
< Tannehill > is the latest overpaid loser.

< New PAT thoughts >.

< The 49ers get > a little bit shittier.  If they finish better than bottom of their div, it'll be semi-impressive.



Posted by Troy on May 19 2015,08:16
If Tannehill is making THAT MUCH, were going to have to fork over a huge amount of money for Cam.

Newton may not be perfect, but he's above average, and an average NFL QB is still striking it rich.



Posted by Stranger on May 19 2015,09:02

(Troy @ May 19 2015,11:16)
QUOTE
If Tannehill is making THAT MUCH, were going to have to fork over a huge amount of money for Cam.

Newton may not be perfect, but he's above average, and an average NFL QB is still striking it rich.

Oh yeah, Cam and Russell were the ones to benefit most from this contract.  Cam will get paid.. very well.

Just think what kind of contract Russell Wilson will get!!

Lets see.. a QB who has a less than .500 record vs. one that's been to two Super Bowls!!

Posted by Malcolm on May 19 2015,09:30
QUOTE
Just think what kind of contract Russell Wilson will get!!

I'm waiting for him to get tired of Seattle's bullshit and go to the Texas Rangers.

Posted by TheCatt on May 19 2015,10:37
< Patriots accept punishment. >

Assume Brady will still appeal.

Posted by Leisher on May 19 2015,11:17
The unasked question becomes: "What does the NFL have that made the Patriots do a complete 180?"
Posted by Malcolm on May 19 2015,11:25

(Leisher @ May 19 2015,13:17)
QUOTE
The unasked question becomes: "What does the NFL have that made the Patriots do a complete 180?"

One assumes a fuckload more evidence than was made public that Roger will never let see the light of day.  Probably something that implicates way, way, way more people than just Brady.  I get the feeling they had to nail him specifically someway, because, come the fuck on, if the football's doctored, the QB would know.



Posted by Leisher on May 19 2015,12:56
One ESPN personality, who will probably get fired soon, speculated that this move will result in Brady only getting a two game suspension.
Posted by TheCatt on May 19 2015,14:17
I'd believe that.
Posted by Malcolm on May 19 2015,19:20
< PATs 1% less boring >.  There's now a dog's chance in hell of missing it instead of the previous mark of a retard dog's chance in hell.


Posted by TheCatt on May 20 2015,03:54
QUOTE
The NFL announced the extra point will now be kicked from the 15-yard line with two-point conversions remaining at the 2-yard line. The new rule also gives the defense the ability to score two points on returns.

According to the rule change, if the defense returns a blocked extra point or failed two-point try for a touchdown (i.e. on an interception), they will be awarded two points. Under the previous rule the ball was dead on a failed try.

Yes!

Posted by Leisher on May 20 2015,04:14
This is better than what they had, and not as stupid as "go for two every time".
Posted by Malcolm on May 20 2015,07:40
QUOTE
Broncos kicker Connor Barth: "Narrowing the uprights would make it a lot more challenging than moving the extra point," Barth said via The Denver Post. "Most guys can hit 33-yarders in their sleep."

Posted by Malcolm on May 20 2015,13:22
< No reduction >, says one of the least trustworthy people in all of football.
Posted by Malcolm on May 21 2015,09:25
< Jets looking forward > to another disappointing season.
QUOTE
What we didn't know until now is that offensive coordinator Chan Gailey already views Smith as the Week 1 starter, barring injury.


< Bridgewater > wants to throw more interceptions.

< Cowboys > picking up RB insurance.
QUOTE
The Cowboys are working out former Texans, Browns, Vikings and Steelers running back Ben Tate, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday.
...
And, in a stunning effort to recreate the 2007 Arkansas Razorbacks, the Cowboys are also looking at Felix Jones, per Rapoport.

Posted by Malcolm on May 22 2015,08:25
< Michael Sam > gets signed.  To the CFL.
Posted by Malcolm on May 24 2015,11:25
< As if you needed > one more reason to hate the Patriots.  What can I say that this photo doesn't?

Posted by Malcolm on May 25 2015,09:15
< Why didn't the Vikes trade him >?  They think it's going to get easier as the regular season rolls around ... what, because there's less pressure then?

< Troll gets one last post >.



Posted by TheCatt on May 25 2015,09:19

(Malcolm @ May 25 2015,12:15)
QUOTE
< Why didn't the Vikes trade him >?  They think it's going to get easier as the regular season rolls around ... what, because there's less pressure then?

Because they're playing a game of chicken with Dallas.
Posted by Malcolm on May 25 2015,09:44

(TheCatt @ May 25 2015,11:19)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ May 25 2015,12:15)
QUOTE
< Why didn't the Vikes trade him >?  They think it's going to get easier as the regular season rolls around ... what, because there's less pressure then?

Because they're playing a game of chicken with Dallas.

We're trying to out-crazy Jerry Jones?  Well, shit.
Posted by Malcolm on May 27 2015,12:30

(Malcolm @ May 25 2015,11:44)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ May 25 2015,11:19)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ May 25 2015,12:15)
QUOTE
< Why didn't the Vikes trade him >?  They think it's going to get easier as the regular season rolls around ... what, because there's less pressure then?

Because they're playing a game of chicken with Dallas.

We're trying to out-crazy Jerry Jones?  Well, shit.

< The dance continues >.
QUOTE
"He's really got two choices: He can play for us. Or he cannot play," Zimmer told the assembled media at offseason workouts.

Posted by Malcolm on May 28 2015,07:22
< AP tries his hand at acting >.  I'm not buying it, not even in print.
Posted by Malcolm on May 29 2015,10:25
< Eagles-Tebow > theory.
Posted by Malcolm on May 30 2015,19:46
< Cheating liar > will have his appeal heard on the 23rd of June.  Here's hoping "FUCK YOU" is somewhere in the official decision.
Posted by TheCatt on May 31 2015,11:06
< Manziel sucking >
Posted by Malcolm on May 31 2015,11:11
I wish I had sympathy.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 01 2015,06:14
< Fan gets under Manziel's skin. >

In Manziel's defense, if this guy was honestly harassing and touching him all day I'm not sure why someone else didn't step in and take the fan away.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 01 2015,07:16

(Leisher @ Jun. 01 2015,08:14)
QUOTE
< Fan gets under Manziel's skin. >

In Manziel's defense, if this guy was honestly harassing and touching him all day I'm not sure why someone else didn't step in and take the fan away.

He should've recreated the iconic scene from Say Anything, except playing < Melle Mel >.
Posted by Stranger on Jun. 01 2015,07:19
To me it just shows he still hasn't grown up.  He addicted to being in the spotlight just as much as he was alcohol.  Since he's gotten out of rehab he has been seen at numerous baseball games, I see him at just about every Cavs home game sitting courtside right next to the visitors bench.  And now bullshit like this.

His entourage he travels with is shit, they should never let people like that and situations like that get to that point.  He needs to disappear and concentrate his ass on football because his football career is riding on a razors edge and when that goes then he will be nothing more than a has been.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 01 2015,07:29
< Bucs already badmouthing Winston >.
QUOTE
He's young, kind of similar to Tim Tebow in a way...


< Superstar Flacco >.  If being undeservedly overpaid makes you a superstar, then, yeah.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 01 2015,07:35
That's not bad mouthing Tebow. That was a compliment. They were saying his attitude is like Tebow's, which is a good thing.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 01 2015,07:41
There's his want, then there's the fact he got compared to a third string (at best) QB.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 02 2015,11:35
< Rumors about the Browns cutting Manziel. >
Posted by Troy on Jun. 02 2015,15:29
Cam Newton extension, 5/$103M

He's worth it, QBs worth a damn are hard to find, and I'm more than happy to keep ours.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 02 2015,15:40
He's one of the few "running QBs" that has proven some ability to pass.  That's kind of important.  Ask Kaep.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 03 2015,09:06
< Welker's still out there >.  Just in case Cleveland wants another bargain to augment their sterling offense.  A few years ago, that dude was my keeper PPR hero.  How the mighty have fallen.


Posted by Leisher on Jun. 03 2015,11:38
He'll end up somewhere during the season.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 05 2015,07:34
< Rams talking up their new offense >.  I lived in that town during the "Greatest Show on Turf" years.  Anything half that good would give them a solid 2015 would help < keep them in that city >.  Mainly, I just want to fuck over the freaks there in that hopeless fucking hole they call L.A. and leave them without a team.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 09 2015,07:49
< Drew Rosenhaus > crawls out from under the rock where his office is located.
QUOTE
Rosenhaus noted that Gordon is being tested by the NFL up to 10 times per month, saying: "It's been about four months and we're just trying to get him through this year."

If that's true, that's absurd.

Beat the shit out of your wife or kid?  Eh, we'll let you back in.  I bet social workers aren't checking in on AP or his kids ten times a month.

Kill a guy while you're wasted behind the wheel of your car?  Eh, we'll let you back in.

Blatantly cheat during the championship game before the Super Bowl?  Eh, we'll let you back in.

Smoke weed and drink booze?  FUCK YOU FOR A YEAR.



Posted by Troy on Jun. 09 2015,08:10
Panthers offense is going to be fucking GOOOD this year.

< #17 Funchess looks nothing like the stiff hipped/slow/no hands guy that was reported and hurt his draft stock >

Greg Olsen, Kelvin Benjamin, Devin Funchess, all giants, and some homegrown speeders with guest appearances from Ted Ginn to stretch the field.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 09 2015,08:14
QUOTE
with guest appearances from Ted Ginn to stretch the field.

Ted Ginn, Jr.  Heh, I guess someone has to fill the Gatorade cups.  He'll have as much impact as Ted McGinley.

Posted by Troy on Jun. 09 2015,08:20
I'd agree, but < Ted Ginn historically shows up and catches balls for the Panthers >, I totally get he doesn't for other teams, and other teams have tried.

He took his one good year with us and turned it into some retirement cash. No big deal, but now he's back and he can keep making plays for us (as a 4th receiver)



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 09 2015,08:51
< Joe Montana's > o-line cheated.

EDIT: Fixed.  Only time I ever use Google's pain in the ass URL shortener.



Posted by Leisher on Jun. 09 2015,10:45
Your link doesn't work.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 09 2015,10:49

(Leisher @ Jun. 09 2015,12:45)
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Your link doesn't work.

Have to remove the break manually in the URL because this board can't handle it.



Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 09 2015,11:32

(Malcolm @ Jun. 09 2015,13:49)
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(Leisher @ Jun. 09 2015,12:45)
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Your link doesn't work.

Have to remove the break manually in the URL because this board can't handle it.

URL shorteners
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 09 2015,11:45

(TheCatt @ Jun. 09 2015,13:32)
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(Malcolm @ Jun. 09 2015,13:49)
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(Leisher @ Jun. 09 2015,12:45)
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Your link doesn't work.

Have to remove the break manually in the URL because this board can't handle it.

URL shorteners

Shitty CAPTCHA tests.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 09 2015,11:50
< Joe Flacco > lives on another fucking planet.
QUOTE
According to ESPN, Flacco won 72 regular-season games before turning 30, which ranks fifth in the NFL. His 10 postseason wins in that time trail only Tom Brady, who won 12.

Eh, he didn't win the games.  He was on a run-happy and defensive-minded team with no real WRs except when Anquan Boldin was there for a quick second.  He was on the team that won.  Joe's probably thrown more screen and dump passes to Ray Rice, his halfback, than anyone else.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 10 2015,10:24
< Blake Bortles > apparently has an identical twin somewhere who's worth $100M at QB.
QUOTE
Bortles said he hopes to join the $100-million club as well, one day.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 10 2015,13:39
< Oh snap! >
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 11 2015,10:29

(Leisher @ Jun. 10 2015,15:39)
QUOTE
< Oh snap! >

< Gauntlet thrown down >.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 11 2015,15:43
< http://espn.go.com/nfl....-mathis >

Chip Kelly cuts another star. McCoy is looking more and more like a bitter child with his accusations of racism.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 15 2015,07:53
< Michael Sam's CFL career game total: > 0.  Including preseason.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 15 2015,09:39
"SEC Defensive Player of the Year" doesn't mean shit in the pros.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 15 2015,10:16
< Bills set to disappoint > a record number of fans this year.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 16 2015,07:04
< Rams are locking up > Foles.  Considering he's the first real QB that franchise has seen since the Bulger days, I can't blame them.

< Jason "Soupman" Campbell > retires.

< Vernon Davis > blames bad game planning for 2014 season.  Certainly it wasn't Kaep, whose throwing ability lies somewhere between that of a high backup QB during a pickup game in a backyard and Blaine Gabbert.

< Greene is gone >.



Posted by Leisher on Jun. 16 2015,08:02
Greene is a bum. Had him on two fantasy teams and I'm still waiting for him to score a point.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 17 2015,20:59
< No more money signs for Manziel. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 19 2015,07:49
< Terrelle Pryor > throws one last Hail Mary.
QUOTE
Waived by the Cincinnati Bengals on Thursday, Pryor wants to be considered as a wide receiver, agent Drew Rosenhaus told NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

Before latching on with the Bengals in early May, Pryor had said, "If I can't play quarterback, I can't play football."

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 22 2015,07:52
< Fire lit under ginger >.

< Vikes WR can't > buy his own jersey.

< Cassel under siege >.

Posted by Stranger on Jun. 22 2015,13:21

(Malcolm @ Jun. 19 2015,10:49)
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< Terrelle Pryor > throws one last Hail Mary.
QUOTE
Waived by the Cincinnati Bengals on Thursday, Pryor wants to be considered as a wide receiver, agent Drew Rosenhaus told NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

Before latching on with the Bengals in early May, Pryor had said, "If I can't play quarterback, I can't play football."

supposedly the Browns just signed Pryor.. As a receiver.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 22 2015,14:23
Every year, the Browns and Raiders should have a "What the fuck, we're not going anywhere else" Bowl that airs the day after the Super Bowl.
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 22 2015,17:52

(Stranger @ Jun. 22 2015,16:21)
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supposedly the Browns just signed Pryor.. As a receiver.

< Yep >

Maybe he can catch some passes from money.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,09:28
< Someone's still on the Geno Smith bandwagon >.

< Bradshaw suspended > one game.  Once he finds a team.  Fantasy boon for me while he was healthy last year.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 24 2015,05:48
< Broncos considered trading Manning this offseason. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 24 2015,06:08

(Leisher @ Jun. 24 2015,08:48)
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< Broncos considered trading Manning this offseason. >

< Broncos/Texans immediately deny. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 24 2015,07:25
They aren't winning this year.  I'd trade the old man while he still has value.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 24 2015,07:44
< Tedy Bruschi > is a complete and total tool.  This is getting annoying enough I think they ought to take away Brady's ring.  Rest of the team can have theirs, but that prick personally cheated to get his.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 24 2015,07:45
I don't buy the denials. More often than not it has turned out that rumors like this are based on something even if it was just a feeling out process.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 25 2015,08:09
< Decision on cheating liar > will come in a few days.
QUOTE
Brady's appeal offered full explanations to every question, Rapoport added, and more context than was provided to independent investigator Ted Wells in relation to the footballs used in the AFC Championship Game against the Indianapolis Colts.

Wait a sec.  Doesn't that imply he wasn't fully forthcoming to Ted?

< Mediocre, forgettable QB > has thoughts about another mediocre, forgettable QB.



Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 26 2015,08:34
< Michael Sam back in Montreal >
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 27 2015,14:11
< A Minnesota Viking speaks out about gay marriage. >

QUOTE
Love is love? So what will we say when the 30yr old loves YOUR 10 year old. When the dad loves HIS 6 year old? It's different?? Yea okay!


Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 27 2015,15:03
Let me know when NAMBLA gets a lawyer in front of the Supreme Court.  Until then, I have a better chance of winning the lottery than that scenario has of happening.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 29 2015,10:26
< NYG punter > talks shit about Tebow and Chip's boys in general.
QUOTE
"I'm the biggest Tim Tebow fan in the world," Weatherford told WFAN. "I mean, who wouldn't want their daughter to date a guy like that? I'll tell you what, I don't want him taking snaps for my team."

Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 29 2015,11:08
Weatherford's not wrong, and not an asshole in these comments.
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 30 2015,14:53

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 30 2015,15:11
... and the Indians, and the Cavs, and you can be sure if Cleveland had a hockey team, their last championship would've coincided with the < creation of Crown Royal >.
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 30 2015,15:15
Raleigh has won a sports championship more recently than Cleveland.

And we only have 1 sports team.

Posted by Troy on Jun. 30 2015,17:04
Panthers never have, but are a pretty young team and have made a Superbowl and plenty of playoff appearances.

What i'm saying is lol browns.



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 01 2015,07:57
< Brunell on RG3 >.

< D-Jax and Chip >.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 02 2015,12:47
< Couple > < of > four-game suspensions handed out today.


Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 06 2015,07:27
Dwayne Bowe plans to < "fill Josh Gordon's shoes." >  Guess that means he'll be getting suspended.

We have two candidates for < dumb-ass Independence Day > < celebration of the year >.

Posted by Troy on Jul. 06 2015,09:55

(Malcolm @ Jul. 06 2015,10:27)
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Dwayne Bowe plans to < "fill Josh Gordon's shoes." >  Guess that means he'll be getting suspended.

He's referring to his spot in the circle, passing to the left hand side like he should.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 06 2015,12:43

(Malcolm @ Jul. 06 2015,09:27)
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Dwayne Bowe plans to < "fill Josh Gordon's shoes." >  Guess that means he'll be getting suspended.

We have two candidates for < dumb-ass Independence Day > < celebration of the year >.

< JPP > cost himself a bit of cash.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 07 2015,07:46
< Haynesworth writes a letter to his 14 year old self. >

It's an interesting read.

Clearly you only get one perspective, but if it's even half the truth you can see what drove him and what eventually drove him out of the game.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,10:28
< McNabb'd >.
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 08 2015,11:44
< Redskins trademark ordered cancelled >

I assume this will be appealed, etc, etc...

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 08 2015,12:04

(TheCatt @ Jul. 08 2015,13:44)
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< Redskins trademark ordered cancelled >

I assume this will be appealed, etc, etc...

QUOTE
In rejecting the team's free-speech argument, Lee cited a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last month allowing the state of Texas to bar depiction of the Confederate battle flag on specialty license plates sought by the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

Just goddamnit.

Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 08 2015,14:56
< Former NC State player also went boom July 4th >
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 08 2015,20:07
JPP lost a finger.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 08 2015,20:11
Pro Tip: If you're a millionaire, let someone else handle the fireworks.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 09 2015,08:34

(TheCatt @ Jul. 08 2015,22:07)
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JPP lost a finger.

< Got a broken thumb, too >.


(Leisher @ Jul. 08 2015,22:11)
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Pro Tip: If you're a millionaire, let someone else handle the fireworks.

Remember when NFL players were only a danger to themselves if < they owned guns >?

< Flacco > "enjoying" time with Schaub.  If I were Flaccid Flacco, I'd be thanking my lucky stars I have a fat-ass contract, a backup who's precisely zero threat to take the starting gig, and slightly above average QB stats on a team who's passing game take a backseat to special teams.

< Fins snubbed Old Man Johnson >.



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 10 2015,07:43
< Stabler >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 10 2015,12:13
< NFL reduces > suspension from 10 games to 4.
QUOTE
Hardy, who signed with the Cowboys this offseason, was originally suspended 10 games due to an arrest on domestic-abuse charges. A two-month investigation by the NFL "determined that there was sufficient credible evidence that Hardy engaged in conduct that violated NFL policies in multiple respects and with aggravating circumstances."

Let's go over this again.  Beating a woman is still a less serious offense than smoking bud or drinking a cocktail while being on the substance abuse program.  Way to go, NFL.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 12 2015,10:21
< Sixers > remind Philly why the Eagles might be the glass team.
QUOTE
During his first offseason as general manager of the team, Eagles head coach Chip Kelly has acquired a number of talent players that are coming off of fairly serious injuries. Linebacker Kiko Alonso is coming off of a torn ACL. Safety Walter Thurmond missed 15 games last season with a pectoral injury. Linebacker DeMeco Ryans is recovering from a torn Achilles.
...
Getting a franchise quarterback can sometimes feel close to impossible in the NFL, and Bradford was once viewed as that kind of player. So far, five years into his NFL career, he has been anything but a franchise player. The fact that he has twice torn his ACL, and is still recovering from the last one, hasn't helped.



Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 12 2015,11:33

(Malcolm @ Jul. 10 2015,15:13)
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< NFL reduces > suspension from 10 games to 4.
QUOTE
Hardy, who signed with the Cowboys this offseason, was originally suspended 10 games due to an arrest on domestic-abuse charges. A two-month investigation by the NFL "determined that there was sufficient credible evidence that Hardy engaged in conduct that violated NFL policies in multiple respects and with aggravating circumstances."

Let's go over this again.  Beating a woman is still a less serious offense than smoking bud or drinking a cocktail while being on the substance abuse program.  Way to go, NFL.

Well, he was unofficially banned 16 games last year, right?
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 13 2015,07:29
< Dalton booed at softball game >.

< Bills coach > buffaloes, assaults, and batters boys.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 13 2015,13:12
< Dez missing camp >.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 13 2015,13:30
< Porn star publicly slams player. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 14 2015,10:26

(Malcolm @ Jul. 13 2015,15:12)
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< Dez missing camp >.

< NFLPA > filing suit for Dez?
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 14 2015,16:13
< Class action lawsuit against the NFL over the Direct TV bullshit. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 15 2015,13:02

(Malcolm @ Jul. 14 2015,12:26)
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(Malcolm @ Jul. 13 2015,15:12)
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< Dez missing camp >.

< NFLPA > filing suit for Dez?

< Deals > mysteriously reached for both players.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 20 2015,06:12
< Run DMC > will run for 2K yards, says golfer.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 21 2015,08:39
< Justin Hunter arrested >.

< Hasn't Pitta > spent more time on the injury list than the field?

< Bears player > apologizes for tearing his own ACL.

< Bradford > playing out final year.



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 21 2015,10:21
< AP's contract > will be restructured.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 22 2015,07:19
< RG3 > is "done."

QUOTE
"There's no coming back," the undisclosed offensive coach told ESPN.com's Mike Sando. "He is done. The reason is, the injury slowed his legs, and his ego will not allow him to hit rock bottom and actually grind his way back up the right way."

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2015,09:17
< Tone Loc > will be coaching the Steelers for a bit longer.


Posted by Stranger on Jul. 24 2015,09:22
< Shady Mccoy throwing an epic party, or should i say orgy.. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 24 2015,09:35
Given Buffalo's playoff history, that might be the last big bang he gets for his bucks.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 24 2015,10:49
< CJ Wilson > taking a "hiatus" from football after two of his fingers took a hiatus from his hand.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 25 2015,20:39
< Russell Wilson > getting big-ass contract.
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 26 2015,07:40
< Early NFL predictions >
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 26 2015,18:17
< Brandon Marshall is kind of dumb. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 27 2015,08:45
< AP wants > 2500.  As a dude living midwestern Vinland, I hope he gets it.  Will make Bridgewater's life so much easier and maybe we won't torpedo Mike Wallace's career the way we did Jennings's.


Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 27 2015,11:20
< NFL rule changes > related to ball PSI.
Posted by Stranger on Jul. 27 2015,11:42

(Malcolm @ Jul. 27 2015,11:45)
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< AP wants > 2500.  As a dude living midwestern Vinland, I hope he gets it.  Will make Bridgewater's life so much easier and maybe we won't torpedo Mike Wallace's career the way we did Jennings's.

< ...And Norv Turner is smoking crack again. >

This is the same clown that said Brandon Weedon would flourish in his system!  We saw just how good that went.

So, AP will run for 2,500 and Bridgewater is a top 5 QB?!?? Ok, lets just hand them the ring cause this team is gonna be top notch!

I beg to differ.  This team is at best 3rd in their own division.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 27 2015,11:48
Norv's a bit insane, but the numbers aren't entirely hostile to his theory.
QUOTE
But it speaks volumes that Bridgewater was one of the NFL's most effective quarterbacks down the stretch with Matt Asiata, Charles Johnson, Jarius Wright and Chase Ford -- not Adrian Peterson, Greg Jennings, Cordarrelle Patterson and Kyle Rudolph.

Teddy was playing with the scrub squad for half of last season.

QUOTE
This team is at best 3rd in their own division.

Packers are tops in the div until Rodgers runs into a secondary that can stop him, jeebus knows Lacy hasn't shown he can dominate the offense and Green Bay is a passing team.  That said, the Bears are at the bottom until they get off the psychotic notion that Jay Cutler is their man.  With their top guys back, the Vikes look at least as decent as the Lions.  The Vikes slogged their way through a fuckton of injuries and a major suspension last year.  The Lions look very, very beatable if anything happens to Megatron.



Posted by Stranger on Jul. 27 2015,11:56
I actually think the Vikings will be a pretty good team.  But that division is gonna be a rough one.  The Packers are who they are and are clear favorites to win it.  The Lions have actually shown not to have to depend on Calvin as much as they have in the past, Golden Tate and a decent running game has evened out their offense.  The Bears.. well who knows.  They can be dangerous or downright shitty, but John Fox has shown to make decent teams become winners.  We'll see if he can do the same with Cutler.

Also, I may or may not be a little bitter with the Johnny pick over Teddy.  So I had to give old Norv a nut punch.  He didn't do shit but throw the ball 70% of the time when he was here.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 27 2015,12:40
QUOTE
Golden Tate and a decent running game has evened out their offense

Golden had a chance to land the #1 WR gig in Seattle.  He's not a top guy.  He's a hell of a complementary receiver, though, because he'll make you pay for man coverage the entire game.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 28 2015,10:20
< Bird coaching other Birds >.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 28 2015,11:01
< Brady still fighting, but... >

QUOTE
Brady, according to sources, remains adamant that he will not accept a suspension and that any punishment must specify that it's for failing to cooperate with an NFL investigation and not for breaking rules with the footballs.


It appears Lance...I mean Tom Brady really wants to make sure his legacy is untarnished. It probably will be for future generations who will forget, but to the people that aren't Patriots fans, he's a cheating scumbag.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 28 2015,11:04

(Leisher @ Jul. 28 2015,13:01)
QUOTE
< Brady still fighting, but... >

QUOTE
Brady, according to sources, remains adamant that he will not accept a suspension and that any punishment must specify that it's for failing to cooperate with an NFL investigation and not for breaking rules with the footballs.


It appears Lance...I mean Tom Brady really wants to make sure his legacy is untarnished. It probably will be for future generations who will forget, but to the people that aren't Patriots fans, he's a cheating scumbag.

I hope he holds fast and the NFL decides to expand the suspension.

"You're right, Tom.  That suspension was only for not cooperating.  We should have tossed on another four because you blatantly cheated.  Thanks for the reminder."

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 28 2015,11:42
< Upheld >.
QUOTE
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has upheld Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's four-game suspension for violating the league's policy on integrity of the game, the league announced Tuesday.

Eat an underinflated dick, Tom.

< Another retirement >.  You'll remember Johnny as the dude that quit the Fins due to bullying.



Posted by Stranger on Jul. 28 2015,12:14
< And yet Le'Veon Bell gets his suspension reduced >

The Steelers look like they win the day, they get to play a Brady-less Patriots team on opening day and Bell gets a game reduction on his suspension..

Fuck Pittsburgh!

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 28 2015,12:39
Nah, Brady is going to sue in federal court and try to get an injunction so he can play until the case is heard.

We'll have to face the cheater, which is fucked up because the Steelers lost two AFC championship games to the Spygate Patriots. You know, the scandal where the NFL destroyed all the evidence?

I'd say "Fuck the Browns", but at this point what more could be done to them?



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 28 2015,12:42
QUOTE
Nah, Brady is going to sue in federal court and try to get an injunction so he can play until the case is heard.

I'm waiting to see how far he takes this.  You can't buy entertainment like that.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 28 2015,13:20
His appeal should be shot down.
QUOTE
Feldman said Brady's team will have to successfully argue that the quarterback would be "irreparably harmed by not being allowed to play" in order to secure the injunction.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 28 2015,13:47
Goodell's denial was a HUGE shot at Brady. Note that it points out something none of us have heard. Brady destroyed evidence during the investigation.

Gee, I wonder why he'd destroy a cellphone? Fuck him,

He needs to man up and just admit he was cheating.

QUOTE
Goodell indicated that Brady's destruction of evidence was a factor in upholding the suspension.

"The most significant new information that emerged in connection with the appeal was evidence that on or about March 6, 2015 -- the very day that he was interviewed by Mr. Wells and his investigated team -- Mr. Brady instructed his assistant to destroy the cellphone that he had been using since early 2014, a period that included that AFC Championship Game and the initial weeks of the subsequent investigation," Goodell wrote in the final decision on the appeal.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 29 2015,05:53
< Brady continues his Lance Armstrong style denials. >

Here's the best part of that article:
QUOTE
"I replaced my broken Samsung phone with a new iPhone 6 AFTER my attorneys made it clear to the NFL that my actual phone device would not be subjected to investigation under ANY circumstances," Brady said on his Facebook page. "To suggest that I destroyed a phone to avoid giving the NFL information it requested is completely wrong," Brady said in his statement one day after the NFL said that Brady destroyed the phone even though he was aware that investigators had requested access to text messages and other electronic information that had been stored on the phone.


Uh...did you hear yourself talking just now Tom? You admitted to obstructing their investigation. Destroy the phone or have your attorneys say the NFL can't touch it to look for evidence...not really much of a difference there.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2015,07:38
The commish needs to release another statement.
QUOTE
Ok, Tom.  We'll do it your way and go to the federal judge.  I'll agree to that if you agree to double or nothing.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 29 2015,08:10
< Charles Haley tells rookies how to not get into trouble. >

QUOTE
“As far as the rookies, and I know they probably got mad, but I said, ‘Why don’t you all act like the white guys? You never see them in the paper getting high or hitting people. Why don’t you act like that?’

Posted by Stranger on Jul. 29 2015,08:31
Funny, that's not racist?  If I said that, I'd be called racist.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2015,10:10
< Kraft >: yes, I am an old, embittered, flip-flopping, cheating asswipe.
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 29 2015,13:00
Fair and just would have had the Patriots disbanded years ago.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 30 2015,08:06
< Brady's > first bitch-ass legal trick -- DENIED.
QUOTE
"Indeed, the Court sees little reason for this action to have been commenced in Minnesota at all," Kyle wrote. "Brady plays for a team in Massachusetts; the Union is headquartered in Washington, D.C.; the NFL is headquartered in New York; the arbitration proceedings took place in New York; and the award was issued in New York.
...
The players association filed the suit in Minnesota where they had won previous litigation against the NFL.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 30 2015,09:03
< It's that > special time when the Jets don't fuck up.
QUOTE
The latest volley comes not from the Jets, but their fan base, specifically the Jets fan site NYJetsFans.com. On Thursday, the site sent a literal message: Flying a plane over Patriots practice with a banner that read, "CHEATERS LOOK UP!"

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 30 2015,12:31
< Blount > fails conditioning.

< Bengals > working out Santonio "Rock Hands" Holmes.

< Dolphins > owner warns coaches they're getting fired after this season.



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 31 2015,09:36
< Wilson now > #2 paid QB.  $60M in guarantees.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 31 2015,13:34
< Dwayne Bowe is really positive about Cleveland. >

Hilarious tweets from Kevin Jones there.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 31 2015,13:46

(Leisher @ Jul. 31 2015,15:34)
QUOTE
< Dwayne Bowe is really positive about Cleveland. >

Hilarious tweets from Kevin Jones there.

Holy shit.  Hey Stranger, did Bowe get into the same koolaid the owner drank when he drafted Boyziel?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 02 2015,11:56
< Sheldon Richardson > further tanks his career.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 02 2015,12:41
Todd Bowles is coaching the Jets?  Huh.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 04 2015,07:27
< PUP > so far.  Well, I'll be damned, if it isn't Fred Taylor's heir apparent:
QUOTE
McFadden added to his long list of injuries on Thursday when the Cowboys placed the back on the PUP list due to a hamstring pull. McFadden dealt with the same injury during offseason practices.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 04 2015,11:31
Justin Blackmon's career is pretty much over.

< Arian >'s groin might need surgery.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 04 2015,11:59
< (In)famous lines > from Hard Knocks.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 05 2015,07:33
< Browns coach Pettine frustrated with RB situation. >

For a team that is supposed to lean heavily on the run and the injuries to Duke Johnson and Terrance West, West's troubling attitude, and Crowell's fumblitis things aren't looking to well.  

I'm going to make a bold prediction... Browns sign Ray Rice... It just makes sense, why not bring the circus to Cleveland again?



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 05 2015,07:40
Who's the old mofo they signed a couple years back that did nothing?  McGahee.  There we go.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 05 2015,07:48

(Malcolm @ Aug. 05 2015,10:40)
QUOTE
Who's the old mofo they signed a couple years back that did nothing?  McGahee.  There we go.

...and Jamal Lewis, they have a track record of picking up the Ravens scrap heap RB's.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 05 2015,09:17
< Another part of my childhood has died. >

I loved those commercials. They were always on during Creature Feature on channel 50 out of Detroit.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 06 2015,06:02
< Brady thinks he's better than Manning. >

I will again point you to Matt Cassell's 11-5 season when Brady went down injured. Brady couldn't even beat out Drew Bledsoe, he had to steal the job when Bledsoe was hurt. Brady also struggled getting the starting role in Michigan.

Brady is NOT a bad or mediocre QB. He's a great QB, but he's also a product of a system.

I should add: A system that includes rampant cheating.

Put Brady on the Cardinals or Jaguars and he's a good QB, but nobody would ever discuss him in any "greatest ever" conversations. However, you put Manning on those teams and he's still in the conversation.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 06 2015,13:10
< Marshall slams > Cutler.

< T-Rich > prepares for another season as a third-stringer.

< D-Jax > separates shoulder throwing block against training equipment.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 07 2015,08:01
< Stop me if you've heard this >, but Aldon Smith has legal problems.

< Even Bradford > is surprised he's up and playing.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 07 2015,10:47
< NFL + Windows 10 >.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2015,08:55
< Frank escapes > from Kathie Lee.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2015,09:42

(Malcolm @ Aug. 07 2015,13:47)
QUOTE
< NFL + Windows 10 >.

Awesome.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2015,10:23
< Incognito defends Brady >.
QUOTE
"Ted Wells came in with a mission against me," Incognito said. "Ted Wells came in slanted against me and everything in his report was slanted against me. There were some things in there that would have helped my cause that were left out."

Incognito was then asked what specifically was left out.

"Teammate testimony, stuff like that," Incognito said. "You see that in Brady's case. There's a lot of stuff that got left out. There's a lot of misinformation."

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 10 2015,12:11
< Josh Gordon another DWI?.. >

I smell a lawsuit.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2015,12:16

(Stranger @ Aug. 10 2015,15:11)
QUOTE
< Josh Gordon another DWI?.. >

I smell a lawsuit.

A lawsuit wouldn't get him shit.

I'm not even sure he'd win since they did retract it.

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 10 2015,12:19
yeah, I meant that more as a joke.  Cause he's not making any money in the NFL.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 10 2015,13:19
Stranger's scrubs and my scrubs play this week!
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 10 2015,13:25

(TheCatt @ Aug. 10 2015,16:19)
QUOTE
Stranger's scrubs and my scrubs play this week!

That's right! Johnny vs the Skins on Thursday! I'll be watching.

I even watched Leisher's scrubs vs Malcolm's scrubs last night.

Pretty boring preseason football is, but its football so I watch it anyways.



Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 10 2015,13:57
I draw the line at the HoF game.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 10 2015,14:00
< Typical dirtbag Steeler fan.. or should i say kicker? >
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 10 2015,14:41

(Stranger @ Aug. 10 2015,17:00)
QUOTE
< Typical dirtbag Steeler fan.. or should i say kicker? >

dirtbag fan.

JEFF REED IS AWESOME.  Probably cuz he went to UNC.

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 10 2015,14:47
I find it funny that a Steeler fan would hate on a kicker that was with the team when they won the Super Bowl.  

At least I think he was the kicker on one of the Super Bowl teams.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 11 2015,08:38
< Vikings are #1! >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 11 2015,08:47

(TheCatt @ Aug. 11 2015,10:38)
QUOTE
< Vikings are #1! >

We demand a trophy.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 11 2015,09:12
< Steve Smith to retire > after this season.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 11 2015,09:54
QUOTE
I find it funny that a Steeler fan would hate on a kicker that was with the team when they won the Super Bowl.


Reed had issues back in the daym but that doesn't excuse the fan's behavior. Reed's version of the incident did not have him getting thrown out, but leaving the area of his own free will. Who knows what's true.

I always liked Reed. Not a huge leg, but accurate.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 11 2015,10:12
< Cheater lends > rings to another cheater's mistress.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 11 2015,10:39
Why your team sucks, 2015 edition:

< Browns >

< Vikings >

< Redskins >

Still waiting for the Panthers and Steelers to be posted. I love reading these articles every year.  Especially the Steelers one, it makes me feel good about myself  :D

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 11 2015,10:46
I got halfway through reading the Cleveland one and had to stop due to conspicuous laughter.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 11 2015,10:47

(Malcolm @ Aug. 11 2015,13:12)
QUOTE
< Cheater lends > rings to another cheater's mistress.

I don't know if it's the MSM that's really trying to sensationalize that story or the chick, but I see her everywhere.

It's like she's flaunting "my pussy broke up Jen and Ben"!

QUOTE
Especially the Steelers one, it makes me feel good about myself


I don't blame you. It's not the Browns do anything on the field to make you feel good.

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 11 2015,10:54
QUOTE
I don't blame you. It's not the Browns do anything on the field to make you feel good.


< Well, i feel better about the Browns starting the season 1-0! >

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 11 2015,11:09

(Stranger @ Aug. 11 2015,13:54)
QUOTE
QUOTE
I don't blame you. It's not the Browns do anything on the field to make you feel good.


< Well, i feel better about the Browns starting the season 1-0! >

Holy shit!

What a moron. If you want to make a team, it's probably not a good idea to sideline the starting QB with a sucker punch.

So much for his career.

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 11 2015,11:20
dude was immediately cut.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 11 2015,11:39

(Stranger @ Aug. 11 2015,12:54)
QUOTE
QUOTE
I don't blame you. It's not the Browns do anything on the field to make you feel good.


< Well, i feel better about the Browns starting the season 1-0! >

Beyond funny.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 12 2015,10:13
< Details > on GenoGate.  < He's been gently > reminded he won't have a starting gig waiting for him.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 12 2015,10:39
< HAHAHAHA >.  Even beer hates Brady.
QUOTE
More than 20,000 cans of the beer made by Sun King brewery came off the line with the words "Tom Brady Sux" on the bottom of the can, right next to the born-on date. The brewery is located in Indianapolis and Wee Mac is served at Lucas Oil Stadium, home of the Colts.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 12 2015,13:06
< The sketch artist in Brady's court case sucks. >
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 12 2015,13:39
My boss walked in yesterday and chatted me up about Geno Smith.

I told him, "The puncher's career is over. Who would pick up a nobody who put his team's starting QB out for 6 weeks with a sucker punch over $600?" Then I said as a joke, "Well, I guess I could see Rex Ryan grabbing him."

He was just picked up by the Bills...

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 12 2015,14:20

(Leisher @ Aug. 12 2015,15:39)
QUOTE
My boss walked in yesterday and chatted me up about Geno Smith.

I told him, "The puncher's career is over. Who would pick up a nobody who put his team's starting QB out for 6 weeks with a sucker punch over $600?" Then I said as a joke, "Well, I guess I could see Rex Ryan grabbing him."

He was just picked up by the Bills...

Unreal.  It somehow got funnier.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 13 2015,10:42
< Redskins > set for another year of solidarity.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 13 2015,11:29
So sad... but can't just pick another team.

(Can I?)

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 13 2015,12:01
Teammate on the punch that broke Smith's jaw: < "He deserved it." >
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 13 2015,23:09
< 1 - 0 baby! >

For the last time this season.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 14 2015,07:39
< Lions troll Geno. >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 14 2015,08:01

(Leisher @ Aug. 14 2015,09:39)
QUOTE
< Lions troll Geno. >

So many choices.

Hurts So Good
Hit Me with Your Best Shot
Mama Said Knock You Out
Hit Somebody
Kick Some Ass
anything from the band Glassjaw



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 14 2015,08:17
< Niles Paul gone >.

< Brown Rice? >  Because fuck knows that < the passing game > ain't doing shit.
QUOTE
Manziel hit the field for one final series to open the third quarter, but it fizzled out after three plays, leaving Johnny 7-of-11 passing for 42 yards on the night -- at just 3.8 yards per pass.

Must be hard playing for the first time without a bump or two in the locker room between drives.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 14 2015,08:20
So many Redskins injuries...
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 14 2015,08:24

(TheCatt @ Aug. 14 2015,11:20)
QUOTE
So many Redskins injuries...

I'm not sure how long it takes for broken ankles to heal, but his foot was damn near facing backwards after the play.  Not a good thing to see.

never mind, I see he's out for the season.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 14 2015,13:06
< NFL warns teams > not to get violent, because that'd give the NFL a bad rep.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 14 2015,18:50

(TheCatt @ Jun. 26 2015,11:34)
QUOTE
< Michael Sam back in Montreal >

< And gone again >

I'm sure the next out player will not suffer any consequences from his actions.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 14 2015,20:34

(TheCatt @ Aug. 14 2015,20:50)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Jun. 26 2015,11:34)
QUOTE
< Michael Sam back in Montreal >

< And gone again >

I'm sure the next out player will not suffer any consequences from his actions.

Maybe it'd help if the next out dude can play football at an NFL level.  The NFL has murderers, wife/child abusers, thieves, cheaters, and juicers.  It's more than willing to let you play if you can hack it.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 16 2015,09:09
< No Ray Rice for the Browns...yet. >
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 16 2015,17:59
< James Harrison is a good father. >

(That's not sarcasm.)

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 16 2015,18:01
Those are the biggest participation trophies I've ever seen.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 17 2015,10:19
< Wtf, RG3 >?
QUOTE
I know I’m the best quarterback on this team. I feel like I’m the best quarterback in the league and I have to go out and show that...

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 17 2015,12:11
< Let's pile on > the QB hype.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 17 2015,12:20
< LeVeon Bell speaks the turth on Kiper and McShay. >

I mean, he's not wrong.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 18 2015,06:39
< Eli Manning wants to be the highest paid QB in the NFL. >

Has Eli watched game tape of himself?

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 18 2015,06:48

(Leisher @ Aug. 18 2015,09:39)
QUOTE
< Eli Manning wants to be the highest paid QB in the NFL. >

Has Eli watched game tape of himself?

While I agree, he doesn't deserve to be the highest paid QB in the league, he has at least won 2 Super Bowls. Which is a hell of a lot more than Phillip Rivers can say!

That dude just straight pulled off a heist! They're hardly a playoff team and when they do make it, they are out in the first round.  Can't believe the paycheck that guy is pulling in .



Posted by Leisher on Aug. 18 2015,07:24
I'd argue that most professional athletes' paychecks are way too high. Also, why aren't they linked to performance during the years of the contract rather than previous performance?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 18 2015,07:58
QUOTE
... he has at least won 2 Super Bowls.

He was on a team that won two Super Bowls.  His play didn't impress me even in those years.

QUOTE
Eli Manning wants to be the highest paid QB in the NFL.

Has Eli watched game tape of himself?

He's too busy shilling DirecTV.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 18 2015,08:11
< The legend > (in his own mind) is back.

< Cowboys and Rams >.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 19 2015,08:08

(Malcolm @ Aug. 18 2015,10:11)
QUOTE
< Cowboys and Rams >.

< Bad idea >.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 19 2015,09:54
< Lord Kelvin > fucks up his knee.

< In like Flynn >.  Hopefully he'll learn not to piss off his teammates and invite a 2-month injury.

Posted by Troy on Aug. 19 2015,15:13
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 19 2015,16:16
Double fuck for .y fantasy team too
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 19 2015,16:39

(TheCatt @ Aug. 19 2015,18:16)
QUOTE
Double fuck for .y fantasy team too

Keeper?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 20 2015,09:01

(Troy @ Aug. 19 2015,17:13)
QUOTE
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

< Fuck indeed >.
QUOTE
The second-year wide receiver will need season-ending surgery for a torn left ACL, the team confirmed.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 20 2015,09:51

(Malcolm @ Aug. 19 2015,19:39)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Aug. 19 2015,18:16)
QUOTE
Double fuck for .y fantasy team too

Keeper?

yes.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 20 2015,21:50
< RG3 > gets a bit less speedy.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 21 2015,04:55
So... what new team should I pick?
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 21 2015,06:22
If you want the same level of frustration, jump on Cleveland's bandwagon.

If you want a team that'll be fun to watch, but ultimately won't win it all, go with the Steelers.

If you're a complete douchebag and don't mind cheating, root for the Patriots.

If you want the most chance of winning a Super Bowl, pick Seattle.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 21 2015,06:58
Go Seahawks!
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 21 2015,07:25
< Manning believed the Patriots bugged the visitors locker room. >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 23 2015,13:16

(TheCatt @ Aug. 20 2015,11:51)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Aug. 19 2015,19:39)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Aug. 19 2015,18:16)
QUOTE
Double fuck for .y fantasy team too

Keeper?

yes.

< You don't have > Nelson, too, do you?
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 23 2015,13:27
No, I only have one half-decent WR.

*had

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 23 2015,16:19
< http://espn.go.com/nfl....surgery >

Every fucking year!

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 23 2015,17:09
< NFL distancing themselves from Carter's "Get a fall guy" comments to rookies. >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 23 2015,18:14

(Leisher @ Aug. 23 2015,18:19)
QUOTE
< http://espn.go.com/nfl....surgery >

Every fucking year!

Just replace everything below his knees with titanium.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 24 2015,05:38
< Aussie rules player goes to NFL, fireworks ensue >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 24 2015,07:21
< One cannot hit Bradford > without proper etiquette.  Let me quote the dude accused of being a dick:
QUOTE
If you want to run the read option with your starting quarterback that's had two knee surgeries, that's on you.

QBs are already the most protected guys on the fields except maybe kicker and punters.  Do you think starters in the regular season are going to go easy on him?

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 24 2015,07:33

(Malcolm @ Aug. 24 2015,10:21)
QUOTE
< One cannot hit Bradford > without proper etiquette.  Let me quote the dude accused of being a dick:
QUOTE
If you want to run the read option with your starting quarterback that's had two knee surgeries, that's on you.

QBs are already the most protected guys on the fields except maybe kicker and punters.  Do you think starters in the regular season are going to go easy on him?

QUOTE
UPDATE: NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino told Preseson HQ on Monday morning that Suggs' hit on Bradford was a legal play and should not have resulted in a flag.

Nice.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 24 2015,13:16
< Reggie Wayne > signs with cheaters.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 25 2015,08:45

(TheCatt @ Aug. 24 2015,09:33)
QUOTE
QUOTE
UPDATE: NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino told Preseson HQ on Monday morning that Suggs' hit on Bradford was a legal play and should not have resulted in a flag.

Nice.

< Eagles still hating on Suggs >.
QUOTE
This had the look of a no-win situation from the moment a flag was inappropriately thrown on Suggs.

How about the moment a QB that's torn his same ACL twice in as many years was inappropriately put on a field where he can't take a legal hit without whining?  You traded away one that didn't have that problem.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2015,10:42
< Judge says commish is a prick >.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2015,12:06
< Damn >, ACLs getting torn all over.  < No, really >.

< Steelers welcome new teammate >/ex-con.

< Hah >.
QUOTE
"Then quarterbacks get protected more than any other player," Bennett said. "I mean, he gets hit in his knees and he's about to cry, making a whimpering sound: 'They hit me in my legs.' Everybody gets hit in their legs. Every play somebody tries to hit me in my legs. So what makes him different? What makes his life better than mine? I've got kids. I've got stuff I like to do on the weekend. But because he gets hit in his legs, he gets a flag. He gets up with a sad face like the world just ended because he got hit. I mean, you got hit in an NFL game. Who cares? Get back up and be like, 'Good job.'"

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 26 2015,12:43
I officially love the Seahawks for now.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2015,20:45

(Malcolm @ Aug. 26 2015,14:06)
QUOTE
< Steelers welcome new teammate >/ex-con.

< Fans not ecstatic >.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 27 2015,07:09

(Malcolm @ Aug. 27 2015,05:45)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Aug. 26 2015,14:06)
QUOTE
< Steelers welcome new teammate >/ex-con.

< Fans not ecstatic >.

Umm.. I'd sure as hell take Vick over Pat Devlin!  This is who the Browns just picked up because Johnny Jack Ass has a sore elbow!!

Its preseason game 3 and Johnny can't play because he's a pussy!  And supposedly he's been having sore elbows since his high school days.  


I think I'm with the Catt.. GO SEAHAWKS

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2015,07:45
QUOTE
This is who the Browns just picked up because Johnny Jack Ass has a sore elbow!!

Waiting for that painkiller addiction to hit.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 27 2015,08:37

(Stranger @ Aug. 27 2015,16:09)
QUOTE
I think I'm with the Catt.. GO SEAHAWKS

RUSSEL WILSON! WOOOO!
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2015,10:14

(TheCatt @ Aug. 27 2015,16:37)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Aug. 27 2015,16:09)
QUOTE
I think I'm with the Catt.. GO SEAHAWKS

RUSSEL WILSON! WOOOO!

< The man who talks to god > and makes magic water.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 27 2015,10:26

(Malcolm @ Aug. 27 2015,13:14)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Aug. 27 2015,16:37)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Aug. 27 2015,16:09)
QUOTE
I think I'm with the Catt.. GO SEAHAWKS

RUSSEL WILSON! WOOOO!

< The man who talks to god > and makes magic water.

You'd think if he could do all that he'd win the Super Bowl this year.

Just sounds like more reasons to cheer!

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2015,12:31
< Martavis Bryant > -- four game suspension.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 27 2015,14:31
< Redskins lose 5th player for the season in pre-season. >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2015,09:00
Officially down to a single FF league this year.  The keeper one I've been in since '02 isn't happening for the first time I can remember.  Good thing I won it last year.  Looks like I can concentrate my efforts on the non-keeper league this season.  Really have to get my brain out of PPR mode.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 28 2015,09:19
I'm in a keeper.  For the 2nd year in a row I managed to screw up the first round of the draft, and get a defensive player.

Last year, I was late.  I had set my rankings, but the league had a "draft missing/empty positions first" rule

This year, I was on-time, and had even setup a queue of players to draft.  but the queue is ignored unless you click the "away" button, and then it defaults to the "draft missing/empty positions first" rule, so I'm screwed again.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2015,09:27
< What not to do > after you lose the starting QB job you were supposed to win.

< Things from around the NFL >:
QUOTE
Nursing a sore throwing elbow, Johnny Manziel will sit out the Browns' third preseason game, coach Mike Pettine confirmed. Pettine conceded that Josh McCown will enter the season under center, telling reporters, "I think I've said he's the starter without saying it."

Johnny Practice Squad can't even beat Josh McCown out of a starting gig.

Posted by Troy on Aug. 28 2015,10:54
LMAO - watched hard knocks last night re: Mallet

Their hard ass coach made the decision on starting QB and told them both to their faces in a small room, pretty manly, actually. (mostly manly because my wife was shocked that is how it was conducted and I replied that only women would do something like that through email or phone call or whatever dumb shit she was thinking)  None of the behind-the-back tell both guys how close they were and could be, etc.

Just, Hoyer is the starter, Mallet is the backup. Deal with it. His criticism of Mallet is that he wasn't as consistent as Hoyer, on the field, in practice, in meetings, etc.

Certainly oversleeping and missing any of the above is definitely a red flag for consistency.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2015,10:36
< I will miss > old man Steve Smith when he's retired.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2015,06:05
< RGIII leaving Washington? >
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 31 2015,06:55

(Leisher @ Aug. 31 2015,09:05)
QUOTE
< RGIII leaving Washington? >

Go Seahawks!
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,07:27

(Leisher @ Aug. 31 2015,08:05)
QUOTE
< RGIII leaving Washington? >

Remember that brief period when he was hailed as the second coming of football Jesus?
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 31 2015,07:47
He was magic that one year.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,07:53

(TheCatt @ Aug. 31 2015,09:47)
QUOTE
He was magic that one year.

Derek Anderson was good one year, too.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 31 2015,08:02
< Cousins named week 1 starter. >

The front office and coaching staff are at odds, which probably means Gruden will be fired after this year (unless Cousins balls out).  Looks like the ownership wants to hitch its wagon to RG3 and any coach that's willing to go with it.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 31 2015,08:30
I'll say this.  They hired Scott M to fix the team, let him do it.  Fuck Snyder.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,08:43
Cousins?  He's about two picks away from the "RG3" chants to start.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,09:20
Hey catt, I got the invite for the for the FF league, but it says I'm not a member.  Had this happen in another league.  I need to be reinvited and everything should clear up.


Posted by Troy on Aug. 31 2015,09:42

(Malcolm @ Aug. 31 2015,10:53)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Aug. 31 2015,09:47)
QUOTE
He was magic that one year.

Derek Anderson was good one year, too.

Derek Anderson still balls. Mostly on second stringers, but they are never ready for him.

He checks into preseason games and < lights the second string defense the fuck up > when they are expecting some shitty backup.

Not that I want him starting or whatever, but he's worlds ahead of RG3.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2015,09:49

(Malcolm @ Aug. 31 2015,12:20)
QUOTE
Hey catt, I got the invite for the for the FF league, but it says I'm not a member.  Had this happen in another league.  I need to be reinvited and everything should clear up.

That a DTMan league?

< Old Man Jackson cut. >



Posted by Troy on Aug. 31 2015,09:57
Hoping it was a Jackson-that-was-a-WR.

Panthers need a veteran WR from other teams cuts, bad.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,10:06

(Leisher @ Aug. 31 2015,11:49)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Aug. 31 2015,12:20)
QUOTE
Hey catt, I got the invite for the for the FF league, but it says I'm not a member.  Had this happen in another league.  I need to be reinvited and everything should clear up.

That a DTMan league?

< Old Man Jackson cut. >

It's the League of Extraordinary Edelmans.

Action Jackson will get picked up by somebody.

Posted by Stranger on Aug. 31 2015,10:22
QUOTE
Action Jackson will get picked up by somebody


Cleveland..

It will either be him or Rice.  The Browns really want a veteran RB cause the ones they got aren't impressing anyone.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,10:25

(Stranger @ Aug. 31 2015,12:22)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Action Jackson will get picked up by somebody


Cleveland..

It will either be him or Rice.  The Browns really want a veteran RB cause the ones they got aren't impressing anyone.

I bet you could get both for dirt cheap.
Posted by Stranger on Aug. 31 2015,10:26

(Malcolm @ Aug. 31 2015,13:25)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Aug. 31 2015,12:22)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Action Jackson will get picked up by somebody


Cleveland..

It will either be him or Rice.  The Browns really want a veteran RB cause the ones they got aren't impressing anyone.

I bet you could get both for dirt cheap.

..But would they wanna play in Cleveland, I'm guessing not.

He seems like a Patriots pickup to me, and he'll probably be good there.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,10:30
Jackson?  Maybe.  But NE has plenty of guys back there.  White, Grey, Bolden, Blount.  I don't think they'll touch Rice.


Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,14:54
< Juliuis Thomas > needs finger surgery.  I'm sure that won't affect his pass catching abilities, because fuck knows Jacksonville's going to be throwing a lot.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 01 2015,08:27
< RGIII likes Instagram post trashing Skins. >

< Blames intern. >

< Trent Richardson unemployed again. >



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 01 2015,09:11

(Malcolm @ Aug. 31 2015,11:20)
QUOTE
Hey catt, I got the invite for the for the FF league, but it says I'm not a member.  Had this happen in another league.  I need to be reinvited and everything should clear up.

Got invite.  Draft time will be tight because I've a 830 CST show to make it to.  I can easily make it within half an hour, though, and given the pace at which snake drafts go compared to the auctions I'm used to, I should be able to be live the entire time.  Might have to rank some long shots and sleepers for the later rounds.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 01 2015,11:02
< Possible GoT latest season spoiler >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 01 2015,12:30

(Malcolm @ Aug. 31 2015,12:30)
QUOTE
Jackson?  Maybe.  But NE has plenty of guys back there.  White, Grey, Bolden, Blount.  I don't think they'll touch Rice.

< Action Jackson > wants a ring.

< Johnny Practice Squad > still isn't cleared to practice.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2015,08:12
< RG3's new strategy >: blame the intern.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 02 2015,09:02
You're a day late with that.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2015,10:33
< F-Jack > slams Bills GM on his way out the door.

< T-Bitch > the biggest bust of all-time?
QUOTE
There's a freshman that goes to University High in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, named Michael Hollins that I would take on my team right now in the NFL before I got Trent Richardson.



Posted by Stranger on Sep. 02 2015,11:15
QUOTE
T-Bitch the biggest bust of all-time?


...Never thought it would turn out like this for Trent.  Didn't think so after his first carry in the NFL, thought he would be a beast.







Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2015,12:56
< Jerry Jones > is slowly realizing his run game is completely fucked.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 03 2015,06:00
< Oh, Redskins. >
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 03 2015,07:19
Just heard on the radio that Tom Brady's suspension was overturned! WTF!

I'm sure it will be all over the news very soon here.

QUOTE
Judge Richard Berman has nullified Tom Brady's four-game suspension, ruling in favor of the Patriots quarterback.


< this dude never loses. >



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 03 2015,07:35
Fuck Tom Brady* and the entire New England Organization.

I hope one of those team managers writes a tell all book.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2015,07:52

(Stranger @ Sep. 03 2015,09:19)
QUOTE
Just heard on the radio that Tom Brady's suspension was overturned! WTF!

I'm sure it will be all over the news very soon here.

QUOTE
Judge Richard Berman has nullified Tom Brady's four-game suspension, ruling in favor of the Patriots quarterback.


< this dude never loses. >

Bull.  The.  Fuck.  Shit.
QUOTE
Berman's ruling does not necessarily end the dispute. The league can appeal.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2015,08:53
< Mothergoatfuck the NFLPA >.
QUOTE
"The rights of Tom Brady and of all NFL players under the collective bargaining agreement were affirmed today by a Federal Judge in a court of the NFL's choosing. We thank Judge Berman for his time, careful consideration of the issue and fair and just result.

"This decision should prove, once and for all, that our Collective Bargaining Agreement does not grant this Commissioner the authority to be unfair, arbitrary and misleading. While the CBA grants the person who occupies the position of Commissioner the ability to judiciously and fairly exercise the designated power of that position, the union did not agree to attempts to unfairly, illegally exercise that power, contrary to what the NFL has repeatedly and wrongfully claimed.

"We are happy for the victory of the rule of law for our players and our fans. This court's decision to overturn the NFL Commissioner again should signal to every NFL owner that collective bargaining is better than legal losses. Collective bargaining is a much better process that will lead to far better results."

Thanks a lot for fucking over your fans, NFL players.  I hope you lose every concussion settlement for the next 50 years, you cunts.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2015,09:07
< Watch various NFL players > tweet their support of a cheater.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 03 2015,17:30
Looks like I'll be doing two drafts at once this year.  I should probably change my strategy in the catt league and read the rules before it starts.


Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 04 2015,03:54
I'm in a keeper league, and someone offered me the following.  Is it fair?  I really dont know.  I assume not by default.  I'm MDC

QUOTE

Trade Summary:
* Multi-Death Corp. gets: John Brown WR ARI, Martavis Bryant WR PIT
* Foosballers gets: Allen Robinson WR JAC, Matt Jones RB WAS; 2016 3rd round pick #4 28th overall



Posted by Stranger on Sep. 04 2015,06:35
Steelers fan Snoop Dogg is pissed about Tom Brady ruling..








Snoop should be Josh Gordon's agent! APPEAL JOSH!!

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 04 2015,06:52
I can't view that right now, but if his point is: CHEATING should be punished more harshly than doing pot, then AMEN
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2015,07:37

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2015,05:54)
QUOTE
I'm in a keeper league, and someone offered me the following.  Is it fair?  I really dont know.  I assume not by default.  I'm MDC

QUOTE

Trade Summary:
* Multi-Death Corp. gets: John Brown WR ARI, Martavis Bryant WR PIT
* Foosballers gets: Allen Robinson WR JAC, Matt Jones RB WAS; 2016 3rd round pick #4 28th overall

Brown and Palmer are supposed to be the next big thing.  But on the flip side, Fitzy is still there.  He's Isaac Bruce, Jr.  Bryant has a suspension to eat the first ... 4 games, I think?  He's also not the dude you want in PPR, but his TD/recep ratio is insane.  Both are also dudes you might bank for the future.

Robinson is the #1 dude in Jacksonville until they waste a first round pick on a WR.  That said, it's still the Jags and it's still Bortles throwing.  Julius Thomas, Allan Hurns, and Marquise Lee (their underwhelming, high round, rookie WR last year) will be competing for a finite, albeit large, number of throws.  Matt Jones?  Pshaw.  You could combine all the rushing on the Redskins this year and it'd still be a middle-of-the-pack result.  The value of the third-rounder is the real wildcard, but neither WR you'd get is someone I'd call a third-rounder.  Unsuspended, they're both fifth round picks.  Bryant gets knocked back a couple because of his substance problems.

In a keeper league, I'd do it.  Brown and Bryant have potential to go up in value significantly.  Robinson, barring a trade, doesn't.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2015,07:45
< I actually > want to see him stay on the roster, in spite of his personality being about as anti-Malcolm as you can get.  I know I only need to watch the five minutes he decides he doesn't suck, then I can flip to another game the rest of the time.

Also, funniest < headline > of the month:
QUOTE
Browns coach Mike Pettine gave some clarity to the Cleveland Browns' running back situation Thursday night, just in time for all those last-minute fantasy drafts.

Who the fuck is drafting a Cleveland running back?



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 04 2015,08:04

(Malcolm @ Sep. 04 2015,10:45)
QUOTE
< I actually > want to see him stay on the roster, in spite of his personality being about as anti-Malcolm as you can get.  I know I only need to watch the five minutes he decides he doesn't suck, then I can flip to another game the rest of the time.

Also, funniest < headline > of the month:
QUOTE
Browns coach Mike Pettine gave some clarity to the Cleveland Browns' running back situation Thursday night, just in time for all those last-minute fantasy drafts.

Who the fuck is drafting a Cleveland running back?

Maybe there's a 40 team league out there somewhere?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2015,08:21
QUOTE
Maybe there's a 40 team league out there somewhere?

With all the platoons going, there might still be 40 RBs I'd pick before remembering the Browns exist.  Hell, I'd rather draft this Cleveland Brown:



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 04 2015,11:00
This is about the lowest I've felt as a Redskins fan.

Hey Stranger, how do I get past this?

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 04 2015,11:53

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2015,14:00)
QUOTE
This is about the lowest I've felt as a Redskins fan.

Hey Stranger, how do I get past this?

Ok, Here's what you do..

You don't.. you accept it.. because when you think that it can't possibly get any fucking worse than it is, it does!  You will have to eat poop sandwich every day for the next 10 years and each day that poop sandwich will grow in size and stink more than yesterday's poop sandwich.

But over time you will get used to that poop sandwich because its the only wretched taste in your mouth. You will even come to have feelings and protect that poop sandwich that everyone laughs at you for eating.  That poop sandwich is yours and nobody knows what its like to eat that sandwich but you.  So maybe sometimes you need to put butter on that poop sandwich to make it more digestible, but other times you will be proud of your poop sandwich and will gladly eat that thing with pride.

But have faith young padawan, for your poop sandwich is still quite small.  There will be rough days ahead as you get used to eating a poop sandwich. But you might as well enjoy it, because its all you have.. Just you and your poop sandwich.

TLDR:  EAT YOUR POOP SANDWICH AND LIKE IT!

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2015,12:31
< Rex Ryan reconsiders >.
QUOTE
The second-year pass rusher, who is best known for punching Jets quarterback Geno Smith inside the team's locker room during an argument about money last month, was signed by his former coach, Rex Ryan, shortly after the Jets cut him.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 04 2015,17:27

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 04 2015,17:50
I drafted this guy in my keeper league just cuz of stuff like this.  Sure, he may even get cut, but I love the guy.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2015,19:12
The Aussie rugby dude.  Very curious to see how that pans out.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2015,19:16
< Tebow is ... > probably in.  Other third-stringer got traded.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2015,09:52

(Malcolm @ Sep. 04 2015,21:16)
QUOTE
< Tebow is ... > probably in.  Other third-stringer got traded.

< Or not >.
QUOTE
Tebow, 28, and Barkley had been competing for the Eagles' No. 3 quarterback job behind Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez. It is not clear whether Philadelphia plans to acquire another quarterback.

Bradford and Sanchez ... it's a tiny chance both stay healthy until the season's end.  What old-ass scrub free agent are they eyeing?

< Brady's dad > still a complete dick.  Apple didn't fall far from the tree in that family.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 05 2015,17:03

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2015,20:50)
QUOTE
I drafted this guy in my keeper league just cuz of stuff like this.  Sure, he may even get cut, but I love the guy.


Made the roster!
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2015,11:02
< Reggie Wayne, Jonas Gray cut >.
QUOTE
Scott Zolak, who is a former New England quarterback and current color analyst on the team’s radio network, reported that Wayne choose to leave the Pats because the “work environment was too tough” and “not fun” for the veteran receiver.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 06 2015,18:53
Draft day, shitty pick tonight:

Vincent Jackson.  Was bidding him up and went too high.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2015,09:38
My standard league went keeper this year.  $250 auction.

Fuck ups:
1) Paid $20 too much (read as "$20") for Vincent Jackson as my WR2 in an attempt to make someone else pay for him.
2) Picked up Sproles, but that's not a bad insurance policy since he's playing behind Mathews (who I got cheap) and Demarco (who almost never stays healthy).
3) Weaker at RB than I want.  Lamar Miller, Justin Forsett, Ryan Mathews, Chris Ivory.  Need to pick up Sproles after my IR trick (see below)

Steals:
1) Paid $3 combined for two decent TEs.
2) Got Forsett for $24.
3) John Brown for a few bucks.

Keeper rule: you get to pay exactly next year what you paid this year.  Meaning you get a stud this year for $1, you pay $1 next year.  One keeper is allowed next year.  Next season, you can have two keepers and the same rule applies.  After two seasons, I think we start going by ESPN value.

I hate having to worry about drafting a solid WR1.  This year, I paid for it and got Downtown Tony Brown.  I'd rather spend my serious cash on a RB1 because those dudes can be so ephemeral that keeping them isn't possible unless you luck out, buy cheap, and hit it big.

First waiver pickup is 3am next morning.  Put in bids for Jordy and Kelvin (that no one drafted) to fill in my two IR slots while dropping Sproles and Tannehill.  Plan is that keeper next year is going to be one of three WRs for $5 at most:

1) John Brown
2) Kelvin Benjamin
3) Jordy Nelson



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2015,11:46
< James Jones > comes limping back to GB.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 07 2015,16:17
< Browns asst coach suspended >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2015,17:02

(TheCatt @ Sep. 07 2015,18:17)
QUOTE
< Browns asst coach suspended >

They don't have an offensive line to coach, so it shouldn't matter much.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2015,06:25
< Big article on ESPN about the New England Cheaters. >

QUOTE
-During Spygate investigation, Roger Goodell ordered NFL execs to stomp 8 videotapes to pieces.
-From 2000-07, the Patriots recorded opposing coaches’ signals for at least 40 games.
-During Pats early SB runs, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into visiting locker rooms and steal play sheets during pregame warm-ups.


Cheating fucking assholes.

Brady can eat a bag of dicks if he thinks his legacy is spotless.

< Robert Kraft was at a party mingling with the judge who overturned Brady's suspension. >

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 08 2015,06:33
Just curious what the top three or four picks were in your drafts?  I have the number 2 pick this year and have a pretty good feeling of where I will be going with it.

The fact that Bell is suspended the first 2 games and he's a Steeler pretty much counts him out for me, but I'm not willing to commit to that yet.  But it looks like Peterson, Charles, Lacy and Lynch are all pretty close too.  

What are the top five picks for you guys?

This is the highest I've ever picked in this league and have had much more success in it when picking at the bottom of the round.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2015,06:43
I took charles with my #3.  I wanted Lynch, but he went #2.  Peterson was our #1.
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 08 2015,07:19
I find it funny that most ranking publications has Lynch as like the 4th or 5th ranked RB.  But dude has had over 1200 yds and double digit TD's for the last four years, yeah he isn't the biggest receiving target like Bell, but he's averaged about 30 per year.  And our league isn't PPR so that's a plus for Lynch.

Tough decision to make.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,07:22

(Stranger @ Sep. 08 2015,09:19)
QUOTE
I find it funny that most ranking publications has Lynch as like the 4th or 5th ranked RB.  But dude has had over 1200 yds and double digit TD's for the last four years, yeah he isn't the biggest catch passing target like Bell, but he's averaged about 30 per year.  And our league isn't PPR so that's a plus for Lynch.

Tough decision to make.

If you're league isn't PPR, I'd go with this for top 10 RBs:

1) Jamaal
2) Lev Bell
3) Lacy
4) AP
5) Lynch
6) Murray
7) McCoy
8) Hill
9) CJ Anderson
10) Forte



Posted by Stranger on Sep. 08 2015,07:30
Really?? I've gotta think that AP is number 1 all day, if he's there at 2 I'm taking him.  After that, its a toss up in my book.

Lynch- solid steady numbers, but can he keep it up.  Has lots of mileage on him

Bell- absolute stud, but missing 2 games.. and Steeler, blah.

Lacy- great team that likes to pass so touches might be limited.  But I believe has the highest floor and a really safe pick.

Charles- I honestly don't know what to expect from this guy.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,07:41
Jamaal IS the KC offense.
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 08 2015,08:06

(Malcolm @ Sep. 08 2015,10:41)
QUOTE
Jamaal IS the KC offense.

Yeah, I guess I was thinking that Charles was injured more often then he has been.  But only one season (2011) did he not play 15 or more games.  

I just never see the guy on TV in our area.  Seen plenty of Vikings and Packers because they play the Lions and of course seen way too much Steelers.  And Lynch is just a highlight reel.  But Charles is an enigma to me, don't see much of him but he's consistently putting up numbers.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,08:11
KC WRs caught 0 TD passes last year.  Meaning Jamaal (or rarely Alex Smith) ran them all in or Jamaal/Kelce caught them all.
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 08 2015,08:16
You make a great point, but his touches and pass targets went down significantly last year.  Only barely getting 1000 yards and 40 receptions, down from 70 the year before.  

Looks like KC has been giving Knile Davis a pretty good work load.  He had 130 carries and 7 TDs last year.  Plus KC is KC, not a big fan of the offense.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,08:25
JC is the man on that team.  Knile's his handcuff.  Alex Smith sure as hell isn't throwing his way to victory.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,08:32
QUOTE
First waiver pickup is 3am next morning.  Put in bids for Jordy and Kelvin (that no one drafted) to fill in my two IR slots...

Worked.  I'm set for next year's keeper.  Hell, I've even got decent trade bait.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,10:19
< NFL commish > discusses how he's an impotent figurehead with no real power to discipline anyone.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2015,10:25

(Leisher @ Sep. 08 2015,09:25)
QUOTE
< Big article on ESPN about the New England Cheaters. >

QUOTE
-During Spygate investigation, Roger Goodell ordered NFL execs to stomp 8 videotapes to pieces.
-From 2000-07, the Patriots recorded opposing coaches’ signals for at least 40 games.
-During Pats early SB runs, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into visiting locker rooms and steal play sheets during pregame warm-ups.


Cheating fucking assholes.

Brady can eat a bag of dicks if he thinks his legacy is spotless.

< Robert Kraft was at a party mingling with the judge who overturned Brady's suspension. >

This got pushed way down due to draft talk, but it's a major deal. All major sports outlets are picking up on it.

Patriots*

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2015,10:29
Patriots are a bunch of cheaters, and always have been.

< Redskins suck, go Seahawks! >

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 08 2015,10:29
So sick of hearing about Brady and cheating and suspensions! Blah blah blah...
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 08 2015,10:31

(TheCatt @ Sep. 08 2015,13:29)
QUOTE
Patriots are a bunch of cheaters, and always have been.

< Redskins suck, go Seahawks! >

OOH! top 26!!

GO SEAHAWKS!

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,10:34
< Mike Martz > is kind of claiming the NFL altered his testimony from Spygate.  It should be noted that he was coaching the team that was spied on at the time.


Posted by Stranger on Sep. 08 2015,10:42

(Stranger @ Sep. 08 2015,13:29)
QUOTE
So sick of hearing about Brady and cheating and suspensions! Blah blah blah...

I didn't mean that your point was any less taken Leisher.  I just wish this deflate gate would go away.

Its just as bad as the all the Barry Bonds talk when that happened.  I got so damn sick of hearing about it that I just changed the station whenever someone talked about it, which was ALL THE TIME!

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,10:52

(Stranger @ Sep. 08 2015,12:42)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Sep. 08 2015,13:29)
QUOTE
So sick of hearing about Brady and cheating and suspensions! Blah blah blah...

I didn't mean that your point was any less taken Leisher.  I just wish this deflate gate would go away.

Its just as bad as the all the Barry Bonds talk when that happened.  I got so damn sick of hearing about it that I just changed the station whenever someone talked about it, which was ALL THE TIME!

Those two particular cheating bastards deserve to be reminded they're cheating bastards for the rest of their lives.  Any pro sport should blank out your stats for HoF consideration after your second positive test for PEDs.  Bud is NOT performance enhancing, either.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2015,10:56

(Stranger @ Sep. 08 2015,13:42)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Sep. 08 2015,13:29)
QUOTE
So sick of hearing about Brady and cheating and suspensions! Blah blah blah...

I didn't mean that your point was any less taken Leisher.  I just wish this deflate gate would go away.

Its just as bad as the all the Barry Bonds talk when that happened.  I got so damn sick of hearing about it that I just changed the station whenever someone talked about it, which was ALL THE TIME!

The stuff that came out today is more about Spygate and how much bigger it was than what we were told.

Basically, I think someone got pissed that Brady's suspension was overturned and they were getting away with cheating again, so they let the truth about Spygate out.

Long story short, if this was the NCAA, the Patriots would be stripped of all, but their most recent titles.

It's really, really damning.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,12:16
< More Patriots bashing > with allegations of them swiping scripted play sheets from opposing teams.
QUOTE
As hated as the Patriots were, it never occurred to anyone to put a camera in the locker room and catch this in the act?

That's the first thought I had in my head.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2015,13:01

(Malcolm @ Sep. 08 2015,15:16)
QUOTE
< More Patriots bashing > with allegations of them swiping scripted play sheets from opposing teams.
QUOTE
As hated as the Patriots were, it never occurred to anyone to put a camera in the locker room and catch this in the act?

That's the first thought I had in my head.

All covered in the expose ESPN did that I posted earlier.

It's a HUGE deal. This is well beyond deflated footballs. Like I said, I think someone got pissed that they escaped justice again, and let all the details of Spygate out.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2015,13:11
Since the commish just had his dick cut off and shoved down his throat, he doesn't look like he can do shit until you drink, smoke, ingest, or shoot some chem you're not supposed to or TMZ reports it first.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2015,08:00
< Pull the other one >, Roger, it's got bells on it.
QUOTE
"I can just tell you that I am not aware of any connection between Spygate procedures and the procedures we went through here. We obviously learn from every time we go through any kind of a process, try to improve it, get better at it, but there is no connection, in my mind, to the two incidents," Goodell said.


< Bishop Stankey stupider than he looks >.  Yes, I know what his real name is.
QUOTE
"I'm happy with how it went, regardless, in spite of our record and everything," Sankey said, per Jason Wolf of the Tennessean. "This year I feel good, I feel confident and I feel like I've grown a lot from my rookie year."

How well did his rookie year go?  So well that his team traded for more RBs, so they now have a committee of four.

< Vikings sign insane old man >.
QUOTE
"Red wine is the key," he said, via the Pioneer Press. "Get it in your veins, baby. Keeps you strong."



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2015,14:23
Got Tannehill and Miller going against Redskins.  Redskins are the new Jags.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2015,18:53
Drafts are done.  Two leagues this year.

catt (no cash) league: Morbo's Annihilators ... I like the draft results a lot
QB ... Cam Newton, Sam Bradford (gamble)
RB ... Hill, Forsett, Martin, D. Robinson, F. Jackson
WR ... Green, A. Johnson, John Brown, Brian Quick, Dorial Green-Beckham
TE ... Olsen, Jordan Reed the Human Injury Machine
K ... Dan Carpenter
D ... Arizona


money league: God Personally Knows My QB
QB ... Wilson, Tannehill
RB ... Lamar Miller, Forsett, Ivory, Sproles, Run DMC
WR ... Antonio Brown, John Brown, V-Jax
TE ... Owen Daniels, Zach Ertz
K ... Prater
D ... Rams

I try not to draft the same guys across leagues, but I did it a couple times.  Sproles and\or DMC is getting axed early on.  DMC needs to worry about Christine Michael now, but Sproles just needs one of the fragile guys ahead of him to take a solid hit.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2015,07:59
< 4 game suspension > for punching a QB that probably won't win that many games in his NFL career ever again.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2015,08:09
So you're the douche who took Bradford before I could.  BAH.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2015,08:59
< "Peyton still has it all." >  Well, except feeling in his throwing fingers.

< Vikes o-line > down another starter.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2015,12:28
< There will be no Super Bowl L >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2015,14:18

(Malcolm @ Sep. 09 2015,21:53)
QUOTE
Drafts are done.  Two leagues this year.

catt (no cash) league: Morbo's Annihilators ... I like the draft results a lot

My favorite part was where Peej told you to shut the fuck up.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2015,16:53

(TheCatt @ Sep. 10 2015,16:18)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 09 2015,21:53)
QUOTE
Drafts are done.  Two leagues this year.

catt (no cash) league: Morbo's Annihilators ... I like the draft results a lot

My favorite part was where Peej told you to shut the fuck up.

I've heard that phrase so often in my life that it sounds like a Charlie Brown teacher noise no matter who it comes from.  Pretty easy to piss off a Patriots fan, though.  Just ask them to play fairly.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 11 2015,07:39


Or... a blackup, if you will.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 11 2015,08:44
That's hilarious.

As for the game, < Steelers are filing an official complaint about their headsets not working. >

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 11 2015,08:55
QUOTE
The New York Giants and quarterback Eli Manning have agreed on a four-year extension worth $84 million, including $65 million in guaranteed money, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

The Giants, according to the sources, agreed to include a no-trade clause in Manning's new deal, which had been a major hurdle in the talks.

Manning's $21 million average in new money on the extension will rank him fourth among quarterbacks in the NFL, behind Aaron Rodgers ($22 million), Russell Wilson ($21.9 million) and Ben Roethlisberger ($21.85 million).

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 11 2015,09:04
QUOTE
Manning's $21 million average in new money on the extension will rank him fourth among quarterbacks in the NFL, behind Aaron Rodgers ($22 million), Russell Wilson ($21.9 million) and Ben Roethlisberger ($21.85 million).

Jesus.  Waiting for Flacco to up his now.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 11 2015,09:22
< Fuck the Pats >.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 11 2015,10:21
< Really good article on "Headsetgate". >

Check that last sentence.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 11 2015,10:26
< Steelers TE coach > kicks shit out of NE fan.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 11 2015,12:15
< Browns OC: > "Our passing game sucks so hard, we can't even bribe someone to play like they give a shit for $9M guaranteed."

< RG3 > set to duke it out with Colt McCoy for the backup QB spot on one of the league's least promising and least interesting offenses.

Steelers < withdraw > complaint.



Posted by Leisher on Sep. 11 2015,13:06
If they were, you know it was Rooney who shot it down. He's protecting the integrity of the league unlike Goodell and the assholes in New England.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 12 2015,19:34
I dont see a college football thread so I'll put this here:

We were out at a sports bar for dinner tonight (Jed's), and we didn't know there was a televised football contest going on.  Some footballer ran past the line with the ball and the bar erupted loudly, startling my son.  "What just happened?" He asked me.

I leaned in close so he could hear me... "Something just happened in sports."

I like to think he'll say that to his own son, someday.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2015,09:41
< RG3 is QB3 > ... or < not >.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,10:14

(Malcolm @ Sep. 13 2015,12:41)
QUOTE
< RG3 is QB3 > ... or < not >.

< Inactive >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2015,10:38

(TheCatt @ Sep. 13 2015,12:14)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 13 2015,12:41)
QUOTE
< RG3 is QB3 > ... or < not >.

< Inactive >

Describes the entire game so far.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,11:02
Browns get interception... fumble and like 20 yard gain for the other team.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,11:03

(Malcolm @ Sep. 13 2015,13:38)
QUOTE
Describes the entire game so far.

Given the predictions for this game, I'm thrilled.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,11:05
Suh just tackled Morris... then punched him and kicked his helmet off.  No call.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,11:11
Manziel up to bat.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2015,11:55
DeSean gone.  Indy's self-destructing.  Rams are hanging with Seattle for over one half now.  If Arizona puts up a strong showing, San Fran's year is DOA.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2015,11:57

(TheCatt @ Sep. 13 2015,13:11)
QUOTE
Manziel up to bat throw a pick.

Fixed.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,13:29
At least I picked the fins in my elimination pool
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,17:02
Had the choice between Mariota and Winston in my keeper league.

Took Winston.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2015,17:07

(TheCatt @ Sep. 13 2015,19:02)
QUOTE
Had the choice between Mariota and Winston in my keeper league.

Took Winston.

Eh, one game.  In general, I was higher on Marcus than Jameis even before this.

Things learned today:

1) Peyton's not going back to the Super Bowl.  He might not even win his div.

2) Rams look legit as all hell.  NFC Central is going to be brutal, unless you're SF, in which case you're the community whore because you're getting fucked all year.

3) Indy lost a step from last year.

4) Ravens still suck.

5) Fucking Dolphins.  You couldn't give them the fucking div.

Theoretically possible for me to win both games this week in spite of the Dolphins and Denver in the pay league.  Probably screwed in catt league.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,17:11

(Malcolm @ Sep. 13 2015,20:07)
QUOTE
1) Peyton's not going back to the Super Bowl.  He might not even win his div.

2) Rams look legit as all hell.  NFC Central is going to be brutal, unless you're SF, in which case you're the community whore because you're getting fucked all year.

3) Indy lost a step from last year.

4) Ravens still suck.

5) Fucking Dolphins.  You couldn't give them the fucking div.

#1 - Yeah, it's been a slow decline.  But it's over.

#2 - NFC West, you mean.

#3 - 5 - Yeah.

The Fins should be ashamed.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2015,17:13
Yeah, I keep forgetting that "west" = "west of the Mississippi."
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2015,18:45
Jets look semi-decent as well.  Then again ... Cleveland.  Hell, Sam Bradford with a torn ACL is better than McCown and Boyziel combined.  Bradford might be worth a damn one day.


Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2015,19:24
Cleveland is worthless.  Give the Jets a few more weeks.

I was surprised by the Bills.  And so far by the Giants/Cowboys.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2015,19:35
I'm waiting for OBJ to get about 20 points in garbage time in the 4th to fuck me over.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2015,05:27
My keeper league team sucks, for various reasons.

But this year, Carson Palmer was available in the draft, so I picked him up and started him instead of Eli.  (I also picked up Tyrod Taylor, and Winston, cuz my QBs were shit).  

That worked out well.  Using Indy's D, and Adam Vinatieri, did not.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 14 2015,06:42
WTF were the Giants thinking?

3rd and goal from the Cowboys 1. 1:40 left on the clock and Dallas has no timeouts. So they throw?

Incomplete pass. Field goal. 90 seconds left for Dallas to drive down and win with 9 seconds left in the game.

Run the ball and even if you don't score you take another 40 seconds off the clock.

Really bad clock management.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2015,07:16
"Oh shit, we're about to win - We need draft picks to rebuild, people!"
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 14 2015,07:57

(TheCatt @ Sep. 14 2015,09:16)
QUOTE
"Oh shit, we're about to win - We need draft picks to rebuild, people!"

< Stupidity has company >.

One of the best parts of the now defunct Tuesday Morning Quarterback was a section called "WHY ARE YOU PUNTING?!?!?!?!"



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2015,08:03

(TheCatt @ Sep. 13 2015,14:05)
QUOTE
Suh just tackled Morris... then punched him and kicked his helmet off.  No call.

< Bullshit >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 14 2015,08:11
< HAH >.
QUOTE
"I think they kind of know what happens when you don't give Lynch the ball, so we knew it was going to him."

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 14 2015,08:13
From FB:
"Did you know? Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariotta both won Heismans and both started their NFL careers by throwing a TD to a Titan."

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2015,09:14

(Leisher @ Sep. 14 2015,11:13)
QUOTE
From FB:
"Did you know? Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariotta both won Heismans and both started their NFL careers by throwing a TD to a Titan."

Awesome.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2015,09:34

(Leisher @ Sep. 14 2015,09:42)
QUOTE
WTF were the Giants thinking?

3rd and goal from the Cowboys 1. 1:40 left on the clock and Dallas has no timeouts. So they throw?

Incomplete pass. Field goal. 90 seconds left for Dallas to drive down and win with 9 seconds left in the game.

Run the ball and even if you don't score you take another 40 seconds off the clock.

Really bad clock management.

< More details. >

Not just an incomplete pass, but threw it out of the end zone - on purpose.  Dumb ass.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 14 2015,14:58
< Texans already swapping > QBs.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2015,16:01
< Da fuq, Giants? >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 14 2015,19:00
Wow.  Eagles may have 3 startable RBs if tonight's any indication.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 14 2015,19:18

(Malcolm @ Sep. 14 2015,22:00)
QUOTE
Wow.  Eagles may have 3 startable RBs if tonight's any indication.

That's 3 more RBs than wins.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 14 2015,19:47

(TheCatt @ Sep. 14 2015,21:18)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 14 2015,22:00)
QUOTE
Wow.  Eagles may have 3 startable RBs if tonight's any indication.

That's 3 more RBs than wins.

I saw at least two Sam passes that should have gone for decent gains go right through the receivers' hands.  It's not just Bradford, but it is his stat line.

Random Vikes game observations:

The Vikes left their run D at home, I guess.  Fucking goddamn.  At least rugby boy muffed his first punt return.

Pass interference on Wallace that didn't get called after AP dragged half SF's defense past a first down marker.  Of course, all capped by Bridgewater running into his own lineman.

Vikes get a penalty while they're punting.  SF draws a penalty.  Vikes elect to repunt.  Returned for a score, nullified by another SF penalty.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 15 2015,07:22
Vikes looked awful.  So much for all the preseason buzz over us challenging for the div lead.  It was something of a step up from when Freeman played the Giants.  Speaking of Josh, he gets picked up an dropped more than most fantasy players.
QUOTE
On April 2, 2015, Freeman signed a one-year deal with the Miami Dolphins. On July 24, 2015, Freeman was released, but re-signed with the team four days later.  He was released by the Dolphins on September 4, 2015.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 15 2015,10:45
< Redskins up two spots! >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 15 2015,11:58
< Stay classy, Frisco >.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2015,08:00
< Corner wants to cover Gronk >.

< Stubby posts workout vid >.

< AP was > "too aggressive" on MNF.

< Sam > goes to grad school.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2015,10:21
< Lynch's mom > talking shit about Seattle's OC.

The < carousel of shame > that is the Cleveland QB situation, gets worse.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2015,12:47
< Great days > ahead in Jacksonville.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2015,15:51
< And, of course, > the NFL's whipping boy team.
QUOTE
"I don't see any reason we wouldn't play him [McCown]," Pettine said.

When your former #1 pick can't beat out a 36-year old journeyman recovering from a concussion or the dude the Rams wouldn't start over Shaun fucking Hill last year, it's safe to call him a bust.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2015,17:32

(TheCatt @ Jul. 08 2015,23:07)
QUOTE
JPP lost a finger.

< Pictures >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2015,18:05
And so it begins...

Fantasy team in work league has 6 player bench: 5 of my my bench people are injured.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2015,19:16
The Peyton-Kubiak philosophy for 2015:


Andy Reid looks like the Kool-Aid man's grandpa.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 18 2015,05:54
Way to fuck it up, Charles.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 18 2015,07:40
Goddamn, that game had a lot of penalties.  The Chiefs D gave it away by automatically extending every Broncos drive on 3rd with a fucking holding call or personal foul.


Posted by Stranger on Sep. 18 2015,12:13
YAY! Johnny is starting sunday!

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 18 2015,12:32
Strangely, the spread for Tennessee did not immediate go to -10
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 18 2015,13:22
Is that gif of Manziel in 20 years?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 18 2015,14:03

(Leisher @ Sep. 18 2015,15:22)
QUOTE
Is that gif of Manziel in 20 years?

Maybe more like two.  Then there's this prediction...

QUOTE

(Stranger @ Dec. 30 2013,13:35)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Dec. 30 2013,13:19)
QUOTE
I'm eager to see how they piss away the pick they got from Indy.

can you say Johnny Paul Football Manziel?... God help me if they do.

Maybe he can < share a cell with Ryan Leaf > in a few years.


... which isn't out of the question once he gets goes the way of a less popular version of Tim Tebow.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2015,10:30
Dez Bryant out 10-12 weeks.  Damn.  That's pretty much double what was indicated initially.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2015,13:28
Redskins with the surprise win.

FU Rams.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2015,13:32
Good news: I draft Matt Jones.

Bad news: He's on the bench.  

And for about the first time ever, 4 20+ point QBs on my team.  Started Palmer, but Eli, Tyrod, and Jameis did pretty well today.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2015,14:25

(TheCatt @ Sep. 20 2015,15:28)
QUOTE
Redskins with the surprise win.

FU Rams.

How in the name of Lawrence Taylor's coke habit do you beat Wilson, lynch, and the hawks while the Washington Unrenewed Trademarks outplay you all game?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2015,16:40

(Malcolm @ Sep. 20 2015,13:30)
QUOTE
Dez Bryant out 10-12 weeks.  Damn.  That's pretty much double what was indicated initially.

< Romo's collarbone injured. >

The Eagles can't score.  The Giants can't finish.  The Cowboys are falling apart.

GO REDSKINS!  6-10 MIGHT JUST WIN IT ALL!

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2015,18:21
Still want Bradford?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2015,18:24
Oh God, the whole world puts us with the losers now.




Posted by Stranger on Sep. 21 2015,05:08
Redskins 1-1

Browns 1-1

Seahawks 0-2

Tell me again who were rooting for Catt??

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2015,05:47

(Stranger @ Sep. 21 2015,08:08)
QUOTE
Redskins 1-1

Browns 1-1

Seahawks 0-2

Tell me again who were rooting for Catt??

Srsly, right?  Who'da thunk it?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,07:42
I'm completely screwed in the catt league (but getting the 12th and 11th picks in a kind-of-snake draft will do that).  Only need 8.9 points from Ivory to win the cash league.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,07:57

(TheCatt @ Sep. 20 2015,18:40)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 20 2015,13:30)
QUOTE
Dez Bryant out 10-12 weeks.  Damn.  That's pretty much double what was indicated initially.

< Romo's collarbone injured. >

Word is 8 weeks.  At that rate, he'll still be back before Dez.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2015,08:04
They said 8 weeks last time this happened, and it took 10
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,08:40
Let me get the Cowboys depth chart here:

Weeden, Terrence Williams, and Old Man Witten head up the passing game.

Joseph Randle, Run DMC, and Christine Michael compose the backfield.

How long before the D starts getting hammered by the injury fairy?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2015,09:25
Still good enough to win the East.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,10:36
< 96% > CTE rate among ex-NFL brains.
QUOTE
In total, the latest study on the association between CTE and football examined 165 brains of former players, some of whom played only in high school, and others who made it into the big leagues. But evidence of CTE did not discriminate against success — of the 165 brains, 131 showed evidence of CTE, for a grand total of 79.4 percent. In the NFL, the frequency was higher still at 96 percent.

I can only assume they had one or two kickers in the study that kept it from being a slam dunk.



Posted by Stranger on Sep. 21 2015,13:06
Fuck it! ok, I'm ready to admit it...

Stick Johnny in for the rest of the year.  What the hell do they have to lose? more football games?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2015,13:27

(Stranger @ Sep. 21 2015,16:06)
QUOTE
Fuck it! ok, I'm ready to admit it...

Stick Johnny in for the rest of the year.  What the hell do they have to lose? more football games?

Hell, I'd take Johnny right now in Washington :)
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 21 2015,13:44

(TheCatt @ Sep. 21 2015,16:27)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Sep. 21 2015,16:06)
QUOTE
Fuck it! ok, I'm ready to admit it...

Stick Johnny in for the rest of the year.  What the hell do they have to lose? more football games?

Hell, I'd take Johnny right now in Washington :)

Why's that?  Cousins was 23-27 203yds 1td.  Beat the Rams.


Rams > Seahawks,  Skins > Rams, So Skins > Seahawks = Super Bowl contender!

GOOD TO BE ALIVE!!

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,13:56
I'm putting that to a Rams fuck up more than a Washington victory.  You'll also hear the chants of "McCown" starting around week 6.
Posted by Troy on Sep. 21 2015,14:18
Still room on the Panthers bandwagon. Joining the bandwagon automatically makes you our 5th backup receiver, too.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2015,14:26
Well, I'm still a Panthers fan.

I'm pretty pumped (2 weeks in, right?) that the Skins and Panthers are outperforming expectations.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2015,19:28
Comedy of errors for the Colts tonight.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,19:58
Still eating enough clock time to completely fuck Ivory and me over.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,20:40
< Tebow!  Tebow! >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2015,07:15

(Malcolm @ Sep. 21 2015,21:58)
QUOTE
Still eating enough clock time to completely fuck Ivory and me over.

And fuck Bilal Powell up his carry-stealing asshole.
Posted by Stranger on Sep. 22 2015,12:52
< They clearly must not have the internet in Dallas! >  Because I can pull up all sorts of Youtube videos of Brandon Weeden sucking.

QUOTE
“This quarterback Weeden can drive the ball down field,” Jones said. “He’s a thing of beauty on throwing a football. His passing motion and his arm, frankly, you won’t see a more gifted passer, power, accuracy, the entire aspect of it.


I think old Jerry is trying to convince himself its not as bad as it really is.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 22 2015,12:54
They say most CEOs/etc are way over-optimistic....
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2015,13:00
QUOTE
“This quarterback Weeden can drive the ball down field,”

Weeden could fuck up driving a ball downfield while being chauffeured in a stretch limo.
QUOTE
His passing motion and his arm, frankly, you won’t see a more gifted passer...

Maybe he's thinking of Weeden's more than generous career of passing to the other team.  That's an interception, Jerry, you want fewer of them.

Pagano subtly verbally bitchslaps his QB:
QUOTE
Pagano had this to say about Luck and his four turnovers:

"It's not that hard -- it's not trigonometry."

Some, like Gregg Doyel of the Indianapolis Star, wonder if this was direct jab at his quarterback, who had a math-based major at Stanford...

That would be architectural design.  Now, had Chuck said, "architectural design" there'd be no question.  But when's the last time you heard trig used in this particular saying in place of the old standard "rocket science?"



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 22 2015,19:16
< Jawbreakee loses > starting job.

Word is that Dallas picked up Cassel from Buffalo for cheap.

< Indy > is harmonious as a Bjork jam session.

Lev has to be looking forward to the rams after Matt Jones ran rampant over them.



Posted by Stranger on Sep. 23 2015,06:32
< Blackhawk down McCown is back.. >

Its funny because in Cleveland he's now being referred to as "Blackhawk down McCown" because dude went helicopter on the first drive of the year








I just don't get it.  Yeah, maybe he gives Cleveland a better chance to win on Sunday but he's not the future.

We've gotta find out what Johnny has, for better or worse.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 23 2015,07:55
I can't argue with you.  It's not like Cleveland's winning the north.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2015,08:00
QUOTE
We've gotta find out what Johnny has, for better or worse.

Fixed.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2015,08:39
< Eagles > have the shittiest signals in the NFL.

< Jimmy Graham > slowly realizing that Russell Wilson isn't the pass-happy QB Brees is.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2015,14:22
< Stay classy, Philly >.
QUOTE
The Eagles’ veteran safety told reporters Tuesday “this isn’t the Jets that you saw last year, this is a team that’s well-coached.”

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2015,07:56
< Steelers > think their kicker can't hack PATs.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2015,20:05
The fucking giants are too much for the skins?  What ringers did they play last week?
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 24 2015,20:59
Well, it was fun while it lasted.

I honestly completely forgot the game was even happening tonight.  Which sounds like it worked out for me.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2015,08:57
QUOTE
When looked at independent of game circumstances, Cousins' numbers are a bit alarming: 29 turnovers over his last 17 games and two interceptions or more in eight of his 17 starts. In three games against the division-rival Giants, Cousins has thrown one touchdown and has eight picks.

Damn.

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 25 2015,09:17

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2015,11:57)
QUOTE
QUOTE
When looked at independent of game circumstances, Cousins' numbers are a bit alarming: 29 turnovers over his last 17 games and two interceptions or more in eight of his 17 starts. In three games against the division-rival Giants, Cousins has thrown one touchdown and has eight picks.

Damn.

RG3 time!
Posted by Troy on Sep. 25 2015,09:35
Cousins' looked like he was struggling his ass off to throw the ball 15-20 yards. So is Peyton, but then he's old as shit and his arms, legs, and neck are about to fall off.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2015,09:35
No, Colt McCoy time.  RG\QB3 still wasn't active last night.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2015,10:09

(Stranger @ Sep. 25 2015,12:17)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2015,11:57)
QUOTE
QUOTE
When looked at independent of game circumstances, Cousins' numbers are a bit alarming: 29 turnovers over his last 17 games and two interceptions or more in eight of his 17 starts. In three games against the division-rival Giants, Cousins has thrown one touchdown and has eight picks.

Damn.

RG3 time!

Go Packers!
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2015,10:39
< 49ers > dumb down playbook due to QB.

Up there in the sky, it's a bird ... it's a plane ... it's a goddamned < drone >.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2015,11:01
< Brady saga not over yet >
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 25 2015,11:04
< Lots of injuries >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2015,11:15

(TheCatt @ Sep. 25 2015,13:04)
QUOTE
< Lots of injuries >

That author is a pussy.  Perhaps he'd like to travel back in time to 100 years ago...
QUOTE
Two Yale defenders bore down on the helpless Burr, one of whom, Jim Quill, punched him in the face, shattering his nose. The other player, according to John Sayle Watterson's College Football: History, Spectacle, Controversy, citing contemporary newspaper accounts, "delivered a body blow with his feet which knocked Burr 'senseless.'" That sounds an awful lot like a drop-kick. No foul was called on the play.
...
But if the number of deaths remains a useful and malleable fact even now, 109 years later, the deaths themselves have been forgotten. How exactly did 18 football players—or 19 or 13 or 21—die in 1905?

Football used to result in death, it doesn't anymore except in extreme circumstances.  Last dude I remember dying was Corey Stringer, and that was heat stroke at preseason camp about 15 years ago.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 27 2015,12:37
I think if your fans are chanting for Manziel, your season is over.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 27 2015,13:04

(Leisher @ Sep. 27 2015,15:37)
QUOTE
I think if your fans are chanting for Manziel, your season is over.

They have to be, right?  I'm not watching the game, but I'm seeing the score.

And of course, with Ben as my #1 QB .... sigh

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 27 2015,13:23
Until that last pick, Josh McCown didn't look horrible. He wasn't great either...

I don't understand the whole "He gives us the best chance to win" thinking. He might, but you might as well see what Manziel has and either cut bait or cultivate.

Big Ben going down sucks. We're without Gradkowski too, so Vick is the guy unless Ben's injury is minor. I give us no shot without Ben.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 27 2015,14:36
I don't know that QB is your biggest problem when the Raiders are lighting you up like that.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 27 2015,16:08
The Raiders beat Baltimore too, which would be more impressive if they weren't 0-3.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2015,17:52
Cash league:

Getting my ass beat.  Chris Ivory was "active" and played zero snaps.  Forsett is getting benched, period.  Meanwhile, Ryan Mathews and Darren Sproles each have 16 plus points on my bench.  Wtf?  If Philly's offense truly wakes up, I might start winning.  Longer Demarco's hurt, better off I am.  Would've been good to know his injury status before the 1pm game.  Fucking Chip Kelly.  Fuck you and your pregame warmups.

Catt league:

Had Newton, AJ Green, Rishard Matthews, and Greg Olsen.  Win.  Fucking finally.

1-2 start in both leagues.

Big Ben might be down for a count.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2015,18:32
< Wtf? >
QUOTE
"The response I got was: 'Cam you're not old enough to get that call.' . . . I didn't think you had to have seniority to get a personal foul or anything like that," Newton said in his post-game press conference.

Official denies making the statement.  This is the league that has sucked the cocks Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, and Tom "The Walking Pussy" Brady.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2015,19:20
It looks like Detroit's getting screwed out of a TD because the official made the wrong call.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 27 2015,20:00

(Malcolm @ Sep. 27 2015,21:32)
QUOTE
< Wtf? >
QUOTE
"The response I got was: 'Cam you're not old enough to get that call.' . . . I didn't think you had to have seniority to get a personal foul or anything like that," Newton said in his post-game press conference.

Official denies making the statement.  This is the league that has sucked the cocks Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, and Tom "The Walking Pussy" Brady.

If he made that comment, I would assume it was a JOKE.

It was the right call regardless.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 27 2015,21:27
4-6 weeks without Ben. Shit.

Also, they announced DeMarco's being out prior to 1. I was able to pull him from my lineup.

I started Doug Martin and TY Yelton for a whopping 7 points, yet still find myself 33 points up on an undefeated team in our league. He has Rogers left and I have Crosby. Why? Because Brees got hurt, so I picked up Dalton and his 42 points today, plus Steve Smith went off and I played him because Delante Adams was questionable.

Sometimes you have to let the universe set your lineup for you!

Posted by Stranger on Sep. 28 2015,06:06
Pathetic ass team!!

The supposed strength of our team, the defense is getting owned!  Rookie WRs making our 3 pro bowl secondary look like a scout team.  No name RBs running for 150 yds week after week!

3-13 will be par for the course.  

Wanna listen to some good radio this morning? < Its all doom and gloom over here! >

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 28 2015,06:24

(Leisher @ Sep. 28 2015,00:27)
QUOTE
4-6 weeks without Ben. Shit.

Also, they announced DeMarco's being out prior to 1. I was able to pull him from my lineup.

I was not paying attention, and did not.

But I made a nice flan for my wife's birthday, so I've got that going for me.

Won1 game, lost 2.  My fantasy leagues are as over as the Redskins' playoff hopes.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2015,07:13

(Leisher @ Sep. 27 2015,23:27)
QUOTE
Also, they announced DeMarco's being out prior to 1. I was able to pull him from my lineup

Would have been great if the new York jokes didn't lie about ivory's status.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 28 2015,10:40
< Michael Sam thinks he'd still be in the NFL if he didn't come out. >

He might be right to a point, but he's mostly wrong.

Would he be somewhere playing as a backup if he wasn't gay? I tend to say yes. As a rookie and 7th rounder, he would have been much cheaper than a veteran.

Would he be out of the NFL and the CFL (an important point to remember) if he was a monster player? Fuck no.

Coaches aren't going to risk their jobs by not keeping a great player just because he is gay. If Peyton Manning was gay, he'd still have the same career path.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2015,19:44
KC's playing so bad, I mistook them for Cleveland.

HOLY SHIT FUCK!!!!!  A KC WR just caught a TD pass.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2015,10:00
< If Cleveland > wanted to piss away $9M over the next two years, they could have just given it to me.
QUOTE
Bowe's comprehensive lack of production is especially troubling after the 31-year-old signed a two-year, $12.5 million deal in March with an ungodly $9 million in guarantees.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2015,19:20
Hitting the free agent auctions this week.  Going heavy on Karl Williams and decent on Rishard Matthews.  Might be able to pry away TY Hilton from someone if I convince them Sproles/Mathews is worth a shit with Demarco being on his period and all.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2015,08:33
< NFL appeal > on Brady's corrupt ruling won't be heard until well after it matters unless the New England Cheating Bitches make the Super Bowl.  Even then, they'd have to make a decision in under a week.

< Lions > have opposing teams calling out their plays.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2015,09:29
< Cleveland > continues the award winning QB strategy of "buy mediocre guys cheap."  No word on when they're going to hunt down a Dr. Frankenstein-type chap that combines all three of them into one average QB who might approach a level of competency which I'll describe succinctly as "Culteresque."


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2015,08:34
< AP channels > Cris Carter.
QUOTE
"Not to sound cocky or anything, or confident," Peterson told the media Monday, "but yeah, I do feel like I could have came out my senior year of high school and played in the NFL.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2015,19:19
Mike Vick is killing Tony Brown for me.  It's like going from a high powered .50 calibre rifle to a shitty snub nose .22.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 01 2015,19:22
Brown did drop a TD, so it's not all Vick's fault.

I think Vick looks ok. Except for the back to back sacks he just took.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2015,20:11
Flaccid Flacco looks like he's worth every penny of that contract.  On the plus side, Forsett's not dead but I benched him.

QUOTE
I think Vick looks ok.

Hey, maybe you only want 106 yards from your QB on Tone Loc's team.  Downtown Tony Brown wants more.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 01 2015,20:27
Vick isn't the issue. Scobee is...
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2015,20:34

(Leisher @ Oct. 01 2015,22:27)
QUOTE
Vick isn't the issue. Scobee is...

He already screwballed the first two in.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 01 2015,20:35
Mike Tomlin or Todd Haley is a fucking idiot.

4th and 2 so they bench Bell who's tearing up the Baltimore D and let a 35 year old QB run to the outside...

I hope they lose so they can get grilled over that stupidity for the next week.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2015,20:37

(Leisher @ Oct. 01 2015,22:35)
QUOTE
Mike Tomlin or Todd Haley is a fucking idiot.

4th and 2 so they bench Bell who's tearing up the Baltimore D and let a 35 year old QB run to the outside...

I hope they lose so they can get grilled over that stupidity for the next week.

Reaction from the sideline:


But come the fuck on, start throwing to your bell cow wideout.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2015,20:42
4th and balls.  Let's see what happens.  Ah, Vick can't fucking throw.  This is amazing.  I start Antonio Brown against the second shittiest pass D in the NFL.  5 points.  I bench Forsett against the #1 run D and miss out on 15.  And the Steeler run D collapsed.


Posted by Leisher on Oct. 01 2015,20:46
Vick can't throw? Who gives a fuck? Give the fucking ball to Bell!!! He's the best damn player on the field and two 4th downs and you don't give it to him?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2015,20:49
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Great play calling there.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 01 2015,20:50
Just realized fucking Haley also ran the play to Vick's non-dominant hand side, so that's why he was turning his body.

Fucking joke.

They'll be lucky to win a single game without Ben's talent making up Haley's shitty play calls.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 02 2015,07:07







I was actually pulling for the Steelers last night.  Just seeing the Ravens go 0-4 would have been fantastic.  But now they're next game is the Browns and that will be a two game win streak and will turn their season around..  :angry:



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2015,11:26
< Hah >.
QUOTE
Cody Parkey: The Eagles kicker is out for the year after tearing all three muscles in his groin. This will probably curtail more than his football activities.


The son of the Jets TE coach also slams NYJ players on Twitter during practice.  One noticed.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2015,20:22
I'm getting mocked for paying out for karlos.  We'll see how that shit plays out.  Betting even if shady is healthy, it's a 50/50 split.  Big-ass if.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2015,09:25
I'm starting Karlos this week too.

Only RB to score a TD every week this year...and I just jinxed him.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2015,10:09

(Leisher @ Oct. 03 2015,11:25)
QUOTE
I'm starting Karlos this week too.

Only RB to score a TD every week this year...and I just jinxed him.

I think he works his way into 40-50% of the carries this season if he keeps it up.  He's also their red zone man, even when LeSean was in.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 03 2015,12:31
< Bye Bye Scobee. >
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2015,11:06
No doubt the Redskins could still blow it, but... when does Chip Kelley get fired?
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2015,13:38
One of my leagues has individual defense players for fantasy.  I picked up Josh Norman.  So far he's the best guy on my team this week.

Also have Carolina D in another league.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2015,14:23

(TheCatt @ Oct. 04 2015,13:06)
QUOTE
No doubt the Redskins could still blow it, but... when does Chip Kelley get fired?

Philly stuck with a mediocre Andy Reid for ... how long?

Getting my ass kicked in catt league because I have exactly the wrong guys on my bench.  Probably winning cash league because of ivory.



Posted by Stranger on Oct. 04 2015,17:27
So sick of this team.. I hate the Browns and their overpaid players..

I even managed to get blocked by Joe Haden and Brian Hartline on Twitter because of my scathing reviews.  I fully expect more on the way because i blew them up.

But this is just the problem, they are more concerned with people on Twitter than winning football.  FUCK THIS TEAM!

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2015,17:40
Redskins!
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2015,19:04
Dunbar looks done for a few weeks, minimum.  Could easily be more.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2015,19:10
QUOTE
Browns lose in most Browns way possible

Oh, Browns.

At least you're in line for a better draft pick?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2015,20:47

(TheCatt @ Oct. 04 2015,21:10)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Browns lose in most Browns way possible

Oh, Browns.

At least you're in line for a better draft pick?

Let's take a trip down memory lane for the first round picks out of the mistake on the lake:

Braylon Edwards
Kamerion Wimbley
Joe Thomas
Brady Quinn
Alex Mack
Joe Haden
Phil Taylor
Trent Richardson
Barkevious Mingo
Justin Gilbert
Johnny Manziel
Danny Shelton

That's a 33% bust rate.  I see 2-3 players worth a shit.  They even pissed away the unreal gift Indy gave them when it swapped another first rounder for T-Bitch.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 05 2015,05:27
Well, I've got a chance to win one game tonight if Stafford doesn't suck ass.

Also won in another league thanks to Josh Norman.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 05 2015,07:05
QUOTE
Let's take a trip down memory lane for the first round picks out of the mistake on the lake:


That's not even counting Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerrard Warren, William Green, Jeff Faine, and Kellen Winslow.

If you ask me thats 15 out of 18 that are busts, or an 83% bust rate.

QUOTE
I fully expect more on the way because i blew them up.


go ahead and add Tramon Williams to that list. What a bunch of pussies, they can't even take the criticism they deserve.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 05 2015,07:15
So how bad is the NFC East?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2015,07:28

(TheCatt @ Oct. 05 2015,09:15)
QUOTE
So how bad is the NFC East?

Bad as the AFC South.  Actually, a bit better right now.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 05 2015,08:41
< Dolphins preparing to fire Philbin. >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2015,09:45

(Leisher @ Oct. 05 2015,10:41)
QUOTE
< Dolphins preparing to fire Philbin. >

< Fired >.
QUOTE
"We've been going out there, and practicing our (tails) off every day, but as players, we're tired of being embarrassed," one member of the Dolphins told Getlin last week. "If we get beat in Europe, (players) are going to throw in the towel. It isn't the players. We have all the talent in the world."

It isn't the players?  You have all the talent in the world?  Are you high?

< Kaep dissed > on live TV.
QUOTE
TV cameras on the Fox broadcast during Sunday's game in San Francisco picked up sound of Packers linebacker Clay Matthews shouting at Kaepernick: "You ain't Russell Wilson, bro."



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 05 2015,10:07
Can't say the departure of Harbaugh is the reason for Kape sucking either. He was in a downward trend during Harbaugh's last season (last year).
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2015,10:12

(Leisher @ Oct. 05 2015,12:07)
QUOTE
Can't say the departure of Harbaugh is the reason for Kape sucking either. He was in a downward trend during Harbaugh's last season (last year).

Kaep is the reason for Kaep sucking.  He still can't, outside of one game against the Vikes, throw the fucking ball to save his life.  His cast of shit-tacular receivers doesn't help, but his talent level is nothing more than a backup.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2015,10:30
< Trump = fuckwit >.
QUOTE
"I know Indians that are extremely proud of that name," Trump said. "They think it's a positive."

I don't even need to mention the team specifically, but no, they don't.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2015,11:52
< Another kicker gone >.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 05 2015,13:45
< Tannehill is a dick. >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2015,14:18

(Leisher @ Oct. 05 2015,15:45)
QUOTE
< Tannehill is a dick. >

QUOTE
Philbin told the practice squad players to take it easy on Tannehill to not affect the young quarterback's confidence.

This is such a big problem that there aren't words to correctly analyze what's happening here.

Yes there are.

Ryan Leaf
Elvis Grbac
Tim Couch
Chad Pennington

But none of them gouged you contractually quite like Tannehill.  Here's the: total, average annual (non-guaranteed) salary, plus their guaranteed counterparts, respectively, and finally the percentage, for NFL QBs.
QUOTE
Aaron Rodgers Packers $110,000,000 $22,000,000 $54,000,000 $10,800,000 49.10%
Russell Wilson Seahawks $87,600,000 $21,900,000 $31,700,000 $7,925,000 36.20%
Ben Roethlisberger Steelers $87,400,000 $21,850,000 $34,250,000 $8,562,500 39.20%
Eli Manning Giants $84,000,000 $21,000,000 $36,500,000 $9,125,000 43.50%
Philip Rivers Chargers $83,250,000 $20,812,500 $37,500,000 $9,375,000 45.00%
Cam Newton Panthers $103,800,000 $20,760,000 $41,000,000 $8,200,000 39.50%
Matt Ryan Falcons $103,750,000 $20,750,000 $42,000,000 $8,400,000 40.50%
Joe Flacco Ravens $120,600,000 $20,100,000 $29,000,000 $4,833,333 24.00%
Drew Brees Saints $100,000,000 $20,000,000 $40,000,000 $8,000,000 40.00%
Ryan Tannehill Dolphins $77,000,000 $19,250,000 $21,500,000 $5,375,000 27.90%

Tannehill is being paid like a top 10 QB, in spite of his tiny guarantee.  Flacco got the same bloated contract, so he has the same shitty percentage.  Notice names missing from that list?  Peyton?  Luck?  Brady?  Carr?  Dalton?  Palmer?  Just a few dudes whose QB rating is killing Ryan's.  He's somewhere in the early 30s at best with a cool 77.1 QB rating.  Even Johnny Boyziel came close to the 100 mark, and his ass got benched for McCown, who is also performing miles above Tanne-shill.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 05 2015,20:50
Fucking Stafford.  Fuck fuck.

Oh well.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2015,09:27
< Idiot NFL player > blames refs for fucking up a single play call.
QUOTE
(The officials have) got to be held accountable, just like the players are

How about the players being held accountable for playing a shitty game?  You were behind 3 points all night on an offense that couldn't score.  Own up to your fucking 0-4 record.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 06 2015,09:41
He kinda has a point. But, the tap didn't really impact what was going to happen, that ball was going out of bounds anyway.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 06 2015,10:10
He has a point, but unlike him officials do get reviewed and graded for their performance, AND it can impact their earnings.

Poor grades mean less or no playoff assignments. that means no playoff checks. It can also mean an official is out of a job.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2015,14:21

(Malcolm @ Oct. 05 2015,16:18)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Philbin told the practice squad players to take it easy on Tannehill to not affect the young quarterback's confidence.

This is such a big problem that there aren't words to correctly analyze what's happening here.

< No more slacking, McFly >.
QUOTE
"To me, the best teams that I've been a part of are the ones that, during the week, they go after each other," Campbell said. "Whether it's practice squad versus the defense. They're giving the look of practice squad versus offense, but it gets heated. And it's intense, and it's people that are fighting to win. they want to get noticed or they want to do their job. It's not just going through the motions."




Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 07 2015,11:53
< Early L.A. rumours >...
QUOTE
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Panthers owner Jerry Richardson seem to have taken sides in the debate, the former supporting Stan Kroenke's Rams moving to Inglewood and the latter favoring Dean Spanos' Chargers going to Carson. (The Raiders clearly have taken a backseat among the three teams hopeful of relocating.) ESPN reported that the league lean is toward the Chargers.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2015,08:51

(Leisher @ Oct. 05 2015,09:45)
QUOTE
< Tannehill is a dick. >

< "I'm not a dick," > says Tannehill.

Goddell-bot speaks ... about fantasy football because nothing else is going on he needs to worry about.
QUOTE
Goodell addressed the proliferation of daily fantasy sports, and stressed that the league wanted to make sure fans are "protected" and the companies are acting responsibly.

"The first thing we do is protect the integrity of the game, as I just mentioned. Fantasy football -- and I draw a distinction on this, season-long fantasy and daily fantasy -- because season-long fantasy has been around for quite a while. ... States are the ones that make the determinations about whether something is legal or not legal. We follow the law, and we will do that.

"We feel a cautious approach is the right way. But we're protecting our game. And daily fantasy, it's hard to see the influence it can have on the outcome of a game because individual players are picking different players from different teams, mashing them up ... it's not based on the outcome of the games, which is our biggest concern, so our position continues to be that way.

Your game needs integrity before you go protecting it.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 08 2015,10:31
At the end of the day, it's just entertainment.  They aren't saving lives.  People need to chill
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 08 2015,11:44
Who? The NFL or Draft Kings and their ilk?

Don't defend Draft Kings and the other "skill" companies. Lots of folks just lost a lot of money because of their lack of foresight.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2015,12:05
< Fins clean > house a bit more.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 08 2015,13:42

(Leisher @ Oct. 08 2015,14:44)
QUOTE
Who? The NFL or Draft Kings and their ilk?

The NFL.
QUOTE
Don't defend Draft Kings and the other "skill" companies. Lots of folks just lost a lot of money because of their lack of foresight.

That always happens.  I have no problem with DK/FD/etc.  I believe they should ban employees from betting, but I also think they'll struggle with the same issue that the stock market does with inside information, friends, etc.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2015,18:57
Hoyer with a hail Mary because the Indy secondary decided to bunch up like a fucking Madden game.  No really, watch the replay.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 09 2015,08:02
The Houston Texans defense can eat a bag of dicks.

#2 rated defense coming into the year and they're averaging -1.8 points a game. They single handedly lost me my game last week when they registered -10 points. (I lost by 5.)

I'm wondering if it's legal for me to add/drop a defense every week and always grab whatever defense is on a bye? I think that strategy would work until week 10 when byes end, and then you might get stuck with some shitty team during your playoff run. Still...

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 11 2015,10:05
I lost last week because I left 79 points on my bench. I lost by 5 and my defense scored -10. Probably the worst loss I've ever had in fantasy.

This week I'm over thinking everything.

Had I started Bree's over Dalton last week I would have won by a point. Who knew he'd throw a 50+ harder at the end of the game after returning from a shoulder injury? He's in again because of that Seahawks matchup for Dalton.

Meanwhile, I had to choose between Yelton (workhorse), Martin, Murray, and Hillman who is going to get even more carries since Anderson is terrible.

I ended up going with Yelton and Hillman. Martin is mister inconsistency and he's going against the 4th best run defense in the NFL. Murray is on the bench until I see him gel in that offense.

By the way, for the first time in my fantasy career I started a Brown (Benjamin).



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 11 2015,11:00
And, of course, Martin is going off.

NFL players should be paying me to not start them.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2015,11:03
Shit, really?  I started Martin in the cash league due to injuries.  Hah.  I also put in Hurns in the catt league.  Even he has a score.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2015,11:23
< NY Giants >: a locker room so dirty, it threatens to steal one of their TE's feet.

When does Philly realize Chip fucked up big time and overspent on his RB position?  Sproles and Mathews would be doing fine if Demarco took a hike.  Ryan seems to be a better pass catcher over there and he's getting more yards per carry by a decent amount.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 11 2015,13:49
Martin and Hurns on my bench and my bench is out scoring my starters by a LOT again.

Fuck.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2015,14:00
My scrubs are incredible. Forsett, barnidge, Martin.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2015,17:08
Catt league: winning thanks to tyrod Taylor, forsett, muscle hamster, john Brown, and hurns.  Up by 40, I got the giants versus bell and Bryant, who may not play.

Cash league: up by 18 because of forsett, john brown, mathews, and barnidge.  Special mention to barn as the first Cleveland dude I ever started that didn't suck.  Also to the rams who picked Rodgers twice in lambeau and posted 8 instead of shit.  I got downtown tony brown going against bell.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2015,20:19
Giants may cost me the catt league if bell goes off.  27 points to the second shittiest offense in the NFL.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2015,08:42
< Catt's > best buddy wants you to know why the Bengals FG went in.

< Detroit players > slowly, horrifyingly realize ... it's still Detroit.  That's Golden Tate criticizing the fans for cheering when Stafford left the game.
QUOTE
While Tate might have never lived this nightmare before, it's become routine in Detroit. The Lions are the last winless team in the NFL for the eighth time, most in NFL history. It's the first time they've started 0-5 since going 0-16 in 2008.



Posted by Stranger on Oct. 12 2015,10:25
All HAIL THE GREATEST BROWNS QB OF ALL TIME, JOSH MCCOWN!!

1st QB in the history of the NFL to have 450 passing yds, 2 pass TD's a running TD and no interceptions in one game!

WOOO! GOOD TO BE ALIVE!

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 12 2015,11:44
I've never understood the hype around Stafford.  I didn't like him in Georgia, and I never liked him in Detroit.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2015,12:03
QUOTE
All HAIL THE GREATEST BROWNS QB OF ALL TIME, JOSH MCCOWN!!

I was going to say something wise-ass, but that statement is enough.

QUOTE
I've never understood the hype around Stafford.  I didn't like him in Georgia, and I never liked him in Detroit.

He's not a dude who'll win games for you.  Very much a Flaccid Flacco calibre guy who had the fortune to play in a div with shit defense all around for some time.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2015,12:43
< Brady's trainer/doctor > is a total fraud.
QUOTE
On the first occasion, in 2004, Guerrero was part of an infomercial for a product called Supreme Greens, which claimed, among other things, to be able to cure "ailments such as cancer, AIDS, multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson's disease."
...
Once the investigation ended, Guerrero signed a settlement with the FTC that included surrendering a $65,000 fine or his Cadillac Escalade, and also "barred him from promoting Supreme Greens or 'any substantially similar product' as an effective treatment, cure, or preventative for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, or any other disease."

By 2014, Boston Magazine reports, Guerrero had another product -- NeuroSafe, marketed as a preventive measure for concussions and sports-related head injuries -- as well as a business partner in Tom Brady. The label on the product stated that it was "Powered by TB12," the limited liability corporation run by Brady, Guerrero and a friend of Robert Kraft's, as well as a lawyer with ties to Patriots and Kraft.

Seems legit.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2015,19:36
Wow.  Why does Pittsburgh need Vick when it has Rivers?


Posted by Leisher on Oct. 12 2015,19:54
Michael Vick is so bad, Jon Gruden just suggested the Steelers should put in Landry.

I'd rather see Manziel...

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2015,20:40
Won by double digits in catt league, won by 3 in cash.  Way too close because Vick hates tony Brown as much as he hates dogs.


Posted by Leisher on Oct. 13 2015,06:04
That was a crazy ending last night. When they were driving with little time left I was thinking about that poor rookie kicker and how the Steelers would be on their fifth kicker of the season today if he had missed the tying field goal. Glad it didn't come to that.

How bad are the Chargers?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2015,07:46
QUOTE
How bad are the Chargers?

I saw almost no Woodhead or Keenan Allen the entire night.  I saw less Brown.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 13 2015,08:08
Woodhead had a couple of big screens.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2015,08:23
Yeah, but he's not a TD threat if he's not the man in the red zone anymore.  Saw a lot of Melvin down there last night.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2015,10:35

(Malcolm @ Oct. 11 2015,13:23)
QUOTE
< NY Giants >: a locker room so dirty, it threatens to steal one of their TE's feet.

< Maybe only > his career.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2015,12:38
< Jamaal > is gone.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 13 2015,13:03
All my fantasy teams are done.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2015,14:16

(TheCatt @ Oct. 13 2015,15:03)
QUOTE
All my fantasy teams are done.

I swung and missed big on my RB1 pick in both leagues this year.

catt league: fucking Jeremy Hill
cash league: fucking Lamar Miller

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 13 2015,15:33
Vegas is holding off on the Colts-Patriots line. I'll bet they start it at 20 because the Patriots are going to try and run up the score.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 14 2015,07:15
Biggest tactical error I've ever seen was just made in my fantasy league.

A guy has a commanding lead over his division. He loses Jamaal Charles for the season. Two guys in his division have priority on the waiver wire. There is NOBODY left in free agency RBs that's a starter or that even sees any time.

Our league also has no trades. He has no RBs on his bench.

They could have completely hamstrung him for the remainder of the season, yet somehow they let him grab Charles' replacement, West.

The worst part is that one of them is in desperate need of a RB.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2015,07:45
< Cowboys > agree with Browns and bench Weeden.

QUOTE
... yet somehow they let him grab Charles' replacement, West.

Reid says it's RBBC, but I'd expect it to be 75/25 on the West side before too long.



Posted by Stranger on Oct. 14 2015,07:54

(Leisher @ Oct. 14 2015,10:15)
QUOTE
Biggest tactical error I've ever seen was just made in my fantasy league.

A guy has a commanding lead over his division. He loses Jamaal Charles for the season. Two guys in his division have priority on the waiver wire. There is NOBODY left in free agency RBs that's a starter or that even sees any time.

Our league also has no trades. He has no RBs on his bench.

They could have completely hamstrung him for the remainder of the season, yet somehow they let him grab Charles' replacement, West.

The worst part is that one of them is in desperate need of a RB.

You must be passive aggressively referring to me?

I get what you're saying but I don't need another RB and then I'd just drop another RB in a similar situation as Chadcardrick West, which I guess is the second coming of Jim Brown in your opinion

Biggest tactical error ever?? Get real!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2015,07:57
West is Charles, Jr.  Granted, I'm not expecting the Chiefs to dominate this year, but Alex Smith isn't going to step up and get points.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 14 2015,08:08

(Stranger @ Oct. 14 2015,10:54)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Oct. 14 2015,10:15)
QUOTE
Biggest tactical error I've ever seen was just made in my fantasy league.

A guy has a commanding lead over his division. He loses Jamaal Charles for the season. Two guys in his division have priority on the waiver wire. There is NOBODY left in free agency RBs that's a starter or that even sees any time.

Our league also has no trades. He has no RBs on his bench.

They could have completely hamstrung him for the remainder of the season, yet somehow they let him grab Charles' replacement, West.

The worst part is that one of them is in desperate need of a RB.

You must be passive aggressively referring to me?

I get what you're saying but I don't need another RB and then I'd just drop another RB in a similar situation as Chadcardrick West, which I guess is the second coming of Jim Brown in your opinion

Biggest tactical error ever?? Get real!

I wasn't being passive aggressive to you. I had already looked at your team, and like me, you would have had to drop a RB to grab West. Gary, on the other hand, had a higher waiver priority, needs RBs, and didn't get West.

And no, he's not the second coming of Brown, not sure how you reached that conclusion, but he is a starter.

And yeah, when your division's leader loses his #1 player and has one option to replace him, not grabbing him is a big deal.

Your brother made a MUCH bigger error. He had #1 priority and he grabbed Theo Riddick. Ha!

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2015,08:30
QUOTE
Your brother made a MUCH bigger error. He had #1 priority and he grabbed Theo Riddick. Ha!

Theo Riddick's not going to be a success unless Vin Diesel decides to bring him in as a sidekick.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 14 2015,10:52
Still no Vegas line on Patriots-Colts...
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2015,11:01

(Leisher @ Oct. 14 2015,12:52)
QUOTE
Still no Vegas line on Patriots-Colts...

Every oddsmaker is calling every member of the Indy training staff he knows before they do.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2015,07:41
< Weeden > "is pissed."  The football world is trembling.

< Brown annoyed > with Vick.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2015,12:24
< Pouncey > to fill in his "buy 10 ankle surgeries, get 1 free" card.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2015,20:22
The Falcons were undefeated before this ... how?  Is it perhaps the fact they have the pussiest schedule in the entire NFL this season?
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 16 2015,05:27
< http://espn.go.com/sportsn....esponds >

Tom Brady slams Coca-Cola. I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with him.

I do think it's funny that he doesn't believe in doing what people tell him. He plays in a sport where coaches tell him what to do constantly, and he and his team and known for not following rules. Pick your joke.

By the way, I was really torn between Brees and Dalton this week. Thankfully, I went with Dalton. Brees was only worth 17 points despite throwing for over 300 yards. (Only 1 TD)



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 16 2015,07:30
< who are you stuck watching? >
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 16 2015,08:15

(Leisher @ Oct. 16 2015,08:27)
QUOTE
< http://espn.go.com/sportsn....esponds >

Tom Brady slams Coca-Cola. I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with him.

But he sticks up for sham medicine guy.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2015,08:15
QUOTE
Tom Brady slams Coca-Cola. I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with him.

Frosted Flakes as well.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2015,08:26
< Official >/spectator suspended for one game.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 16 2015,08:38
Kellogg's response pretty much proved Brady was talking out of his ass on Frosted Flakes.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2015,08:50
Most cereal is artificially enriched with vitamins, if I remember.  Hell, you may as well pop some pills and eat oatmeal for the same effect.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 16 2015,17:33
Johnny Fuckwit got arrested.
Posted by Stranger on Oct. 17 2015,05:13

(Malcolm @ Oct. 16 2015,20:33)
QUOTE
Johnny Fuckwit got arrested.

Well, he wasn't arrested.  But still, not a good look when you are trying to repair your already shitty reputation.

QUOTE
Police responded to a domestic argument between Johnny Manziel and his girlfriend off Nagel Road in Avon on Monday involving alcohol.

The Avon police report said the two had been drinking around 2 o’clock that day and Manziel’s girlfriend, Colleen Elizabeth Crowley, was intoxicated. In the report, Crowley told police Manziel hit her and pushed her head against the glass of the car.

Manziel denied hitting Crowley and because of inconsistencies in her story, and the fact neither wanted to press charges, Avon police allowed the two to leave together and no arrest was made.


Johnny's comments via Twitter:

QUOTE
Colleen and I got into a dumb public argument on the way home Monday afternoon.  It probably looked more interesting than it was and ...

I know I would stop and check if I saw a couple arguing on the side of the road.  It was embarrassing but not serious ...

and when we talked to the police and they realized everything was alright and I was sober, we went home together and everything is fine.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 17 2015,09:01
You were sober?  Yeah, I'd have a hard time believing it.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2015,14:21
I got a hell of a mixed bag today.

Cash league:
Not going against anyone doing well except Forte.  Tony Brown killed me.  John Brown came through in a big way.  And goddamn Barnidge only had 3 catches this week for 30 yards.  Fortunately, two were TDs.  Also had Chris Ivory.  In spite of me scoring more points than Atlanta's D this week, I may win.

Catt league:
I don't have one dude with double digits points yet, and John Brown's on my bench.  A.J. Green and Tony Brown may need to start a support group together soon.  Totally fucked.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 18 2015,19:04
In the so-called Catt League, I've got Ben Rothlisberger.  I'm 3-2.  I never took him off starting duty after he got injured.

I'll be 3-3 after today though.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2015,20:06

(TheCatt @ Oct. 18 2015,21:04)
QUOTE
In the so-called Catt League, I've got Ben Rothlisberger.  I'm 3-2.  I never took him off starting duty after he got injured.

I'll be 3-3 after today though.

The catt league is better than the actual name.  Damn NE fanbois.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2015,08:40
QUOTE
Cash league:
Not going against anyone doing well except Forte.  Tony Brown killed me.  John Brown came through in a big way.  And goddamn Barnidge only had 3 catches this week for 30 yards.  Fortunately, two were TDs.  Also had Chris Ivory.  In spite of me scoring more points than Atlanta's D this week, I may win.

Catt league:
I don't have one dude with double digits points yet, and John Brown's on my bench.  A.J. Green and Tony Brown may need to start a support group together soon.  Totally fucked.


Cash league: I win unless Larry Donnell puts up 23+ points.
Catt league: I could've played almost any other combo of WR/RB/Flex than the one I started and done better.  Benched: Jeremy Hill (12 points), Steve Smith (19 points), John Brown (17 points).  I'm slated to lose by 4 points.  Maybe OBJ goes for less than 7, but I doubt it.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2015,10:39
It's October, and that means every NFL player is wearing pink probably when he'd rather not to promote awareness of breast cancer.  Apparently, if your cancer doesn't involve titties, though, < fuck you >:
QUOTE
Heyward, a defensive end for the Pittsburgh Steelers, wrote "IRON HEAD" on his eye black for the second consecutive week. It's meant to honor his father, former NFL running back Craig "Iron Head" Heyward, who died of cancer in 2006 at 39 years old.
...
That seems to jibe nicely with the NFL's annual October pinkwashing, which theoretically promotes breast cancer awareness but brings more than its share of functional problems. It's a highly visible move by a second-generation NFL star. This is the sort of stuff you'd want to encourage, right?

Nope. The NFL's rules against individual shows of tribute like Heyward's are as stupid as they are sacrosanct. The endgame is fines for players like Heyward and teammate DeAngelo Williams, who lobbied the league to wear pink year-round in honor of his mother and other family members. Heyward paid up $5,787 last week, and he'll pay up again.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 19 2015,11:50
Go Panthers!
Posted by Troy on Oct. 19 2015,17:11

(TheCatt @ Oct. 19 2015,14:50)
QUOTE
Go Panthers!

yeeaaa
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 19 2015,18:20
I don't think that's true, Yahoo sports.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2015,19:46
The Eli I know and love to hate is back.  Come on, Ryan Mathews garbage time.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2015,19:49
WTF was up with that deep pass, Bradford?!?!  GODDAMNIT, COOPER.  Fucking country music is rotting your brain.  Swear to jeebus, a Japanese Buddhist must be running Philly's offense.  Every time they score, they have to turn it over a couple drives later to be polite.


Posted by Leisher on Oct. 20 2015,07:05
< Ha! Colts trick play in Tecmo Bowl. >
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 20 2015,09:52
< Did Ditka just fart? >
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 20 2015,10:19
< Vick's starting days are over. >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2015,10:30
< Percy might be next >.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2015,09:38
< Jaguars > to play in London when Jacksonville inevitably kicks their asses to the curb.

< From the > "where are they now" files ... Dennis Pitta and his amazing trick hip.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 22 2015,13:12
< Pats > tweeting shit before the game.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 23 2015,11:41
< No Steve Smith > for you, Carolina.

< Percy's looking done >.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 25 2015,12:01
I had to clear up a roster space a few weeks back for some reason and the guy I let go was Jarvis Landry who had a total of 12 points in the 4-5 weeks I started him.

Today my opponent started him and he has 24 points.

I hate fantasy football...

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 25 2015,12:06

(Leisher @ Oct. 25 2015,15:01)
QUOTE
I had to clear up a roster space a few weeks back for some reason and the guy I let go was Jarvis Landry who had a total of 12 points in the 4-5 weeks I started him.

Today my opponent started him and he has 24 points.

I hate fantasy football...

I'm honestly wondering if I want to keep doing it.

I just can't keep track of all the changes.  On the other hand, it gives me something to do after week 6 when the Redskins are eliminated from playoff contention.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 25 2015,14:23
I needed a D in one of my fantasy leagues, cuz my D is on bye.

So I picked up the Redskins, since they were playing Tampa.  -3 pts.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2015,15:03
Foster's gone.  Hah.

Cash league:
Winning.  Lamar Miller bitch-fin-slapped the Texans and I'm riding that.  Jordon Reed helped quite a bit after I drunkenly subbed him in both my leagues sometime at 1am this morning.  Then there's the Rams D dismantling the Cleveland Laxatives that netted me 21 points.

Catt league:
Predicted to win.  Four dudes played so far (including a kicker), all of them with 10 points or more.  Opponent has Julio Jones (who was pedestrian today compared to what he could've done), two swings and misses on Crowell and Golden Tate.  He needs Baltimore and especially Philly to whup up on someone.  As long as John Brown plays and Carolina racks up some points on goddamn Philly (in Carolina), I should be fine.

Hey Stranger, I need McCown to get over that shoulder thing real fucking quick.  I can't have Johnny Benchwarmer throwing to Barny now that Reed's on bye next week.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 25 2015,16:13
Miller and Landry blew up for me today.  Too bad that's all I had.  Might win, might not.
Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 25 2015,17:25
Miami is feeling awfully good about itself for having beaten two of the worst teams in football.  I'll pass judgment next week.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2015,17:45
The Fins have a glass cannon offense.  Miller is a 1K yard rusher with pass catching ability.  But he gets stuffed like a cheap whore if you stack the box and play D against the run.  Tannehill can indeed throw, but he gets flustered, confused, and flushed out so easily.  Gregg Jennings, Jordan Cameron, Jarvis Landry, Rishard Matthews -- he's got dudes to throw to.  Then there's their defense, which still got rung for 26 by the Texans.

Woohoo, Carolina picks up a fumble and I get another two points.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 25 2015,19:09
I have Carolina's D too. Unfortunately, I also have DeMarco Murray.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2015,19:38
Even my bench is kicking ass this week.  Ryan & Rishard Mat(t)hews, Fitz-P, damn Barny put up over 10 points against the Rams, which is about the fourth time in two seasons they let a TE do that.


Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 26 2015,04:45
Bah, I left Carolina's D on the bench in favor for Steelers.  That was dumb.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2015,10:52
< Hah >.
QUOTE
Sure, Indy didn't quit. But this game was decided early. Indy was held to 0 -- ZERO -- points in the first half against coordinator Rob Ryan's defense. That's illegal in most states.


< Eddie George > will be on Broadway.  No, really.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 26 2015,11:34
I saw Tom Wopat in the same role.

There's no way Eddie could be worse than Tom.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 26 2015,18:19
I've got Arizona in my survivor pool.  But I'm going against Arizona's kicker in my fantasy league.

So, uh, go Cards, but don't kick any FGs.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2015,18:26
Fantasy owners = schizo spectators.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2015,20:15
John Brown, the other Brown wideout, just guaranteed wins in both my leagues.  Still just a game behind you, catt.  Fucking Nikki, though.  

I'm tied for first in the cash league with two other teams, both in my div naturally.  Going to be a brutal run down the stretch.  I also noticed the Rams D has a cushy schedule the rest of the way.  Means I don't have to stream.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 27 2015,06:02
I like to think I made Cantanzaro(sp) miss that last XP.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 27 2015,06:04
< Chaos in Houston. >

How to win 101: Your GM shouldn't be overruling your head coach.

Ryan Mallett has become a cancer on that team and O'Brien is right to want to send him packing. The fact that the GM overruled him speaks volumes about why the Texans suck.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 27 2015,06:19
< Awesome Halloween display by Browns fan. >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2015,07:22

(Leisher @ Oct. 27 2015,08:19)
QUOTE
< Awesome Halloween display by Browns fan. >

Where's the open grave for Boyziel?
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2015,08:28
< Goddell-bot >, still a lying sack of shit.
QUOTE
"We're not in favor of legalizing sports gambling," Goodell said. "We think that's a mistake for sports, the integrity of the game is the most important thing. We want to make sure that our game is above any kind of influence. We do not want to participate in that. That's something we've had a longstanding position, we continue to have that."

Dick.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 27 2015,11:22

(Leisher @ Oct. 27 2015,09:04)
QUOTE
< Chaos in Houston. >

How to win 101: Your GM shouldn't be overruling your head coach.

Ryan Mallett has become a cancer on that team and O'Brien is right to want to send him packing. The fact that the GM overruled him speaks volumes about why the Texans suck.

< Mallet gone >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2015,11:33
Who's desperate enough to take a flyer on him?
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 27 2015,11:46
< Deflategate is still going... >
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 27 2015,12:10
< Jerry Jones: Professional enabler. >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2015,12:40
Pictured: Jerry Jones

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2015,19:39
Problem, good kind:

Jordan Reed's on bye and the position of tight end has produced a Brown #2 in a positive sense, Gary Barnidge, who went over the century mark against the Rams.  Trying to decide whether or not he's worth playing versus Arizona, who've been brutal on TEs this year.  They've only let up 50 or more yards twice this season, although once was last week to goddamn Baltimore's answer to Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, so maybe it's time to roll the dice.  Otherwise, I have to hope Austin Sefarian-Jenkins drinks some of Wolverine's blood or something because I don't see any other way he'll heal up this week.



Posted by Leisher on Oct. 29 2015,06:50
< All 178 Cleveland Browns loses since they returned are ranked. >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2015,07:27
QUOTE
87. @Pittsburgh, 2001 Week 17, 28-7. All of Pittsburgh’s skill players on offense rest, and they still put up 28 points on the Browns. Also, I used to think that Maddox (the Internet guy) was Tommy Maddox.
...
78. Detroit, 2005 Week 7, 13-10. Jeff Garcia, the Browns starter the previous year, leads a comeback by Detroit against the Browns in the second half, and gloats about it in the press conference afterward. Because even Detroit looks down on the Browns.

Hah.

Posted by Stranger on Oct. 29 2015,07:58
What an epic list of losses.

By the way I was at that #78 game.. Afterwards I got into one of the biggest fights of my life with my then crazy ass girlfriend (Leisher knows who I'm talking about).  It ended up with her jumping out of the car just before getting on the expressway and her jumping into some other random old man's car. After driving her halfway home he calls me and tells me I need to get this crazy bitch off his hands!

The things the Cleveland Browns drive people to do...

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 29 2015,08:27
That bitch was cray-cray.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2015,09:21
< Joseph Randle > suspended.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 29 2015,19:54
Miami played one of the worst halves of football I've seen this season.  The British didn't fuck up Dunkirk that badly.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 30 2015,06:07
< Robert Kraft is an asshole. >

I'm sure all the other owners really enjoy watching this asshole get away with cheating and talk shit about it.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 30 2015,07:40

(Leisher @ Oct. 30 2015,08:07)
QUOTE
< Robert Kraft is an asshole. >

I'm sure all the other owners really enjoy watching this asshole get away with cheating and talk shit about it.

It means they can do the same thing and he'll have to have their backs.  So, yeah, I imagine they really do enjoy it.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 01 2015,06:17

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2015,20:50)
QUOTE
I drafted this guy in my keeper league just cuz of stuff like this.  Sure, he may even get cut, but I love the guy.


< And... cut >
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 01 2015,11:30
I'm in an elimination league.

My gut said Vikings.

My brain said Rams, cuz the Vikings are playing outdoors.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2015,12:41
Got no idea how the Vikes are losing to the Bears.  They were doing so damn well.  Rams are always brutal against SF.  Them the the 'Hawks.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2015,12:59
Probably totally fucked in both leagues.  Might pull out the cash league if Fityz and Ivory have big games.  Fucking Eli.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 01 2015,14:25
I was all excited about Palmer's 32 until I saw Eli's 40 on my bench.

Also left Texans' D on my bench.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2015,14:46
Steve Smith is < done > as are my fantasy teams because fucking FITZPATRICK got injured in the first quarter.


Posted by Leisher on Nov. 01 2015,15:46
You punks are lightweights in losing.

I just brought back Steve Smith and now he's out for the year, and Drew Brees was on my bench this week. The fucker couldn't score 20 points this year and then goes off for 60+. 3 out of the last 4 weeks I've had bench players go apeshit on my bench. That other week? Jarvis Landry, whom I cut two weeks earlier, started for my opponent and went off for 24. That's pretty much the point total he scored for me in the 5 weeks or so I had him.

This is my worst year ever.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2015,17:07

(Leisher @ Nov. 01 2015,17:46)
QUOTE
You punks are lightweights in losing.

I just brought back Steve Smith and now he's out for the year...

Heh.  I got Steve in the catt league.  My top player this week was the STL D with a cool 12 points.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 02 2015,06:04
I'm having my worst year ever, and < my Steelers are having a bad year too. >
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2015,07:14
I think my best team is 4-4 after this week.  But I'm still alive in survivor pool.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2015,13:04
< AFC South > sucks harder than any other div.  Hard to argue.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2015,20:04
I like how I stage a comeback in the catt league with Newton and Olsen leading the way, only for the Colts to lay down like fucking dogs and not put up a fight right before I win.

EDIT: Goddamnit, and they score a TD with like seven minutes left.  Maybe enough time for one more Cam-Olsen hookup...

In other news, < Kaep > joins the Boyziel club on the pine.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2015,20:44
Fuckasaurus rex, Josh Norman is impressive.

EDIT: Further fuck.  Had I played Old Man Steve Smith instead of John Brown, I'd be winning the catt league.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 02 2015,21:18
Andrew Luck needs to beg Jim Harbaugh to come coach him back to respectability.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 03 2015,06:59

(Malcolm @ Nov. 02 2015,23:44)
QUOTE
Fuckasaurus rex, Josh Norman is impressive.

Before the game, I was losing by about 20 in one league.  

It's a league with individual D players.  I had, 1 WR, 1 K, 1 DB (Norman), and 1 LB last night.

The WR (Ginn) got 6.  The DB got 6.  The LB got 8.  The K?  Vinatieri for 19.

Norman was pretty amazing to have the first 4 games, but has slowed down as people have been avoiding him.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 03 2015,08:37
< Whisenhunt fired. >

I remember how pissed he was when the Steelers hired Tomlin instead of him. Dude probably about lost his mind when Tomlin beat him in the Super Bowl.

He's a good coordinator, but not a great head coach.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2015,10:27
Vernon Davis got traded to Denver.  The 49ers pick up Pierre Thomas.  Cowboys cut Joseph Randle.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2015,12:42

(Leisher @ Nov. 03 2015,10:37)
QUOTE
< Whisenhunt fired. >

I remember how pissed he was when the Steelers hired Tomlin instead of him. Dude probably about lost his mind when Tomlin beat him in the Super Bowl.

He's a good coordinator, but not a great head coach.

< Leinart reacts >.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2015,07:52
< The Ravens > add another member to their "We're Fucked 2015" tour.

< The Bears > lose their best player to injury, maybe for a bit.

< Indy o-coordinator > runs out of luck and Luck.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2015,09:06
< Cleveland > plans for disappointment, which is par for the course around there...

I take it back.  Gary Barnidge has been the most consistent fantasy player I got this year.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2015,19:13
Some dude in the cash league throws up a post on the board, "Desperate for a running back."  I've learned that one must corner the market in startable RBs if one wants trade fodder.  I tend to waste a lot of draft and waiver picks on RBs.  Dealing Lamar Miller for Jimmy Graham and James Jones (not you, TPR, the black one).  Problem is I already have two top ten TEs.  Planning to flip Jimmy for a WR counterpart to Downtown Tony Brown.  Leaves me with Forsett on bye, with Ivory and Ryan Mathews maybe out with injury.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2015,11:08
< Lions > fire GM and team prez.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 05 2015,12:12
Caldwell will probably follow them out the door after the season. Rightfully so. The guy has a losing record in seasons where his QB isn't named Peyton Manning.

I'll be curious to see if the Browns make any changes this offseason.

Stranger, would you weep if they gave Farmer his walking papers? I mean, the guy just sucks at finding talent. Lombardi might have been an asshole, but he knew talent.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 05 2015,12:29
< Patriots cheating during the coin toss too. >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2015,12:37

(Leisher @ Nov. 05 2015,14:29)
QUOTE
< Patriots cheating during the coin toss too. >

I assume that's facetious.  I mean, I'd like to find out they were putting in loaded or double-sided coins, but I doubt it.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2015,19:44
Johnny Shitfuck needs to get benched.  He makes letting Weeden go look like a bad move.  Cincy's best defense is Cleveland's offense.  How do you shut down the NFL's #2 tight end?  Have the NFL's #96 QB throw to him.  Hey Stranger, I bet the Browns can get the other McCown from Saints on the cheap.  They'd probably accept Boyziel and ... I dunno, it's New Orleans, so maybe hookers or Voodoo dolls.  Shame, too, because Frisco would've traded Gabbert for a handjob a month ago.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2015,20:38
QUOTE
Planning to flip Jimmy for a WR counterpart to Downtown Tony Brown.

Now that Barnidge (well, really Johnny Pussyhand) has fucked me in the cash league, I'm shopping Jimmy around.  Wonder if some fish bites the hook before game time Sunday.

In other news, remember < Anthony Smith >?  You've got a great chance of being his penpal/bitch.



Posted by Stranger on Nov. 06 2015,04:38
QUOTE
Stranger, would you weep if they gave Farmer his walking papers?


That would be the first thing I do this morning! Followed by firing D-coordinator Jim O'neil.  Farmer's big free agent signing, Dwayne Bowe now has a grand total of 3 catches this season and he now has drafted 4 first round busts in the last two years, he's gotta go cause he can't be allowed to make any more roster moves.

And the defense.. talk about a complete dumpster fire of a disaster.  This somehow is the highest paid defense in the league and yet the worst one in the league.  So fire O'neil, hell fire everyone! its par for the course.  If there is one certainty in Cleveland, its you're not gonna be here long if you're a coach.

As far a Johnny goes. I don't think he looked so bad especially in the first half.  He was able to get outta the pocket and make some nice throws.  It didn't help him that receivers were dropping passes right in their mits.  And in the second half, the O-line just forgot how to block anyone.  Somehow an offensive line with 3 first rounders and 2 second rounders couldn't slow down a walk in pass rush, and this has been happening all year long.  Johnny simply didn't have time and Cincy was dropping 7 men into coverage, not much he could do there.  Not saying Johnny is the answer, but he looked a hell of a lot better than I thought he would.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 06 2015,05:00
4 people left in my survival league.  All I could think last night is that I was so sad I didn't pick Cincinatti, and picked NO instead.

Woke up the morning and realized I had picked Cincy!

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2015,08:05
QUOTE
As far a Johnny goes. I don't think he looked so bad especially in the first half.

He looked good in the first half only relative to the second ... when he couldn't find a first down until about 10 minutes through the 4th quarter, when he danced around in the pocket like his retarded Canadian BFF...

...and almost asked to get sacked, when he made throws damn near straight to the Cincy secondary.  QBs shouldn't get worse as a game goes on.

Posted by Stranger on Nov. 06 2015,10:05
Yeah, he blows.. I just hope that they play him the rest of the season so he can finally hang himself and we can be done with his bullshit.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2015,12:57
< Photos > of what Greg Hardy did released.  Four game suspension, keep in mind.


Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 08 2015,09:50

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 08 2015,11:28
Bah.  I put Carolina's D on the bench this week cuz GB.

Only halfway through the game, but that was a dumb decision so far.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 08 2015,13:24
I traded Lamar miller.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 08 2015,13:59

(TheCatt @ Nov. 08 2015,14:28)
QUOTE
Bah.  I put Carolina's D on the bench this week cuz GB.

Only halfway through the game, but that was a dumb decision so far.

I only got 8 points for : 5 Sack, 1 Fum Rec, 1 Int

but that league is fucked as far as Defense scoring

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 08 2015,14:58
Ben takes one hit on the entire day and gets carted off. Not good.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 08 2015,15:15
Yeah, 8 pts for Carolina D.  2 pts for the Minnesota D I picked up.  BAH.

At least Ben got me 22 points first.

Go Panthers!

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 08 2015,19:29
Holy hell.  Won in the cash league.  Mainly because I'm playing the second worst team.  But Karlos is back, at least.  Malcolm Floyd for me going against Robbie Gould tomorrow in the catt league.  I'm up by 2.


Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2015,07:18

(Malcolm @ Nov. 06 2015,14:57)
QUOTE
< Photos > of what Greg Hardy did released.  Four game suspension, keep in mind.

< NFL players and announcers > comment after on the photos.
QUOTE
"There are three (types) of people I have zero respect for in this world," center Jason Kelce told the Philadelphia Daily News. "It's people who hit women, people who molest children, and rapists. I'm glad he didn't have a good day and ... I don't know. I think it's a joke a guy like that is able to play this quickly."

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 09 2015,07:19
My fantasy teams are a wreck. I've got Draids.

< Cam Newton is a thief. >

< Cowboy fan vs Eagles fan. > Sucker punches aren't impressive.

< Eagles fan knocks out Giants fan. >

In conclusion, the NFC East fans are meathead.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2015,07:47
QUOTE
Cam Newton is a thief.

Punk-ass Packer fan shouldn't have violated stadium policy.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 09 2015,08:06
< Reggie Bush is suing the Rams for possibly ending his career. >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2015,08:30

(Leisher @ Nov. 09 2015,10:06)
QUOTE
< Reggie Bush is suing the Rams for possibly ending his career. >

That stadium blows and I'm sure no one working there gives a fuck anymore as they think they'll be out of a job next year.  Their owner has also been an absolute bastard about working with the county, city, or state to build a new one.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2015,09:01

(Leisher @ Nov. 08 2015,16:58)
QUOTE
Ben takes one hit on the entire day and gets carted off. Not good.

< Out about 4 games >.  Hopefully Jones won't forget about the Pro Bowl WR they have.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 09 2015,09:09
No problem with what Cam did.

Ugh, so sick of the fighting at NFL games, even if it's really not that much.  First Eagles/Skins game I went to I saw a few fights, at least one dude got knocked out.  So much more fun atmosphere when it's not the Eagles.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2015,09:13

(TheCatt @ Nov. 09 2015,11:09)
QUOTE
So much more fun atmosphere when it's not the Eagles.

< The hell you say >.
QUOTE
Then there is the jail that was built in the basement of the old Veterans Stadium to more efficiently process South Philly's rowdiest die hards.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2015,11:37
< D-Bag-Jax > not happy.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 09 2015,12:19
< The Manziel train keeps on going. >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2015,12:29

(Leisher @ Nov. 09 2015,14:19)
QUOTE
< The Manziel train keeps on going. >

I can't think of a QB and a team that deserve each other more.  If I didn't have a vested interest in Barny, I'd be all for Boyziel to retain the starting job.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 09 2015,14:08
< Bannergate causes morons to come out of the woodwork on all sides. >

More importantly, watch the video at the bottom. I don't know which Packer that is throwing the ball away, but fuck him. Good for Cam not giving up on making that kid's day.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 09 2015,14:55
It's Julius Peppers, former Carolina Panther (and UNC Tar Heel)
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2015,07:51
I can't believe I won in the catt league.  Malcolm Floyd goes out for the game (and possibly his career), racking up one target and no catches.  Robbie Gould needs one field goal to beat me.  He makes two XPs and misses two FGs.  Net points: 0.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2015,09:46
< Fisher, Zimmer, and Rodney >.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 10 2015,12:01
< Breaking down the film to show how bad Manziel was against the Bengals. >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2015,17:36
< New York > tells daily fantasy sites to suck it.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2015,17:46

(Leisher @ Nov. 10 2015,14:01)
QUOTE
< Breaking down the film to show how bad Manziel was against the Bengals. >

Damn.  That knocks down my opinion of him a bit more.  Totally fucking over Barny and Benji.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2015,09:21

(Leisher @ Nov. 09 2015,10:19)
QUOTE
< Cowboy fan vs Eagles fan. > Sucker punches aren't impressive.

In conclusion, the NFC East fans are meathead.

That Cowboys fan was an Eagles fan and the guy he hit was his brother.

< It gets even better... >

Philadelphia simply has the WORST fans.

< Also, Jerry Jones is fucking insane. >



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2015,10:45

(Leisher @ Nov. 11 2015,11:21)
QUOTE
< Also, Jerry Jones is fucking insane. >

Weeden for Boyziel?  I could see it being the most hilarious trade in NFL history.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2015,13:57
< Oakland gets serious about moving to LA >.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 11 2015,19:31

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 12 2015,05:15
That's fucking hilarious.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 12 2015,18:01
Turned on the Jets/Bills... Apparently it's Christmas for the NFL.

Do these people normally wear this uniforms?



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2015,18:01
Fucking shit, the uniforms.  Every play is like watching Christmas ornaments run into each other.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2015,19:50

(Malcolm @ Nov. 12 2015,20:01)
QUOTE
Fucking shit, the uniforms.  Every play is like watching Christmas ornaments run into each other.

< No, really >.

Also, stay classy, < Rex >.
QUOTE
Rex Ryan's decision to name special teamer IK Enemkpali a Bills captain Thursday night against the Jets...

If that name sounds familiar it's because the fist attached to it broke Geno Smith's jaw in the preseason.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 13 2015,05:48
That was a dick move, Rex.  But, Rex is a dick, so...
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 13 2015,09:38
< Video simulation of color blindness for the game >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2015,13:20
< Cleveland announces they're forfeiting > Sunday's game.
QUOTE
Despite an obvious hesitation from head coach Mike Pettine, who declined to tell reporters who his starter would be on Friday and who seemed to prefer a healthy Josh McCown, Manziel will take the field against the division-rival Steelers.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 13 2015,15:04

(Malcolm @ Nov. 13 2015,16:20)
QUOTE
< Cleveland announces they're forfeiting > Sunday's game.
QUOTE
Despite an obvious hesitation from head coach Mike Pettine, who declined to tell reporters who his starter would be on Friday and who seemed to prefer a healthy Josh McCown, Manziel will take the field against the division-rival Steelers.

That's only fair since we're starting Jarvis Landry.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 13 2015,16:07

(Leisher @ Nov. 13 2015,18:04)
QUOTE
That's only fair since we're starting Jarvis Landry.

Landry Jones.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2015,18:50

(TheCatt @ Nov. 13 2015,18:07)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Nov. 13 2015,18:04)
QUOTE
That's only fair since we're starting Jarvis Landry.

Landry Jones.

Fucking awesome.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 13 2015,19:20

(Leisher @ Nov. 13 2015,18:04)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Nov. 13 2015,16:20)
QUOTE
< Cleveland announces they're forfeiting > Sunday's game.
QUOTE
Despite an obvious hesitation from head coach Mike Pettine, who declined to tell reporters who his starter would be on Friday and who seemed to prefer a healthy Josh McCown, Manziel will take the field against the division-rival Steelers.

That's only fair since we're starting Jarvis Landry.

lmao
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 14 2015,05:40
< NFL not yet done with color rush uniforms >

QUOTE
There are three more “color rush” games this year, the next being next Thursday’s Titans-Jaguars game featuring all-blue and all-gold uniforms. The second most common form of colorblindness is blue-yellow.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 14 2015,05:40
Here are the other games:
The next three “Color Rush” games will include Week 11 (Titans-Jaguars), Week 12 (Panthers-Cowboys), and Week 15 (Buccaneers-Rams).

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 14 2015,06:12
Going to the Saints/Redskins game tomorrow.

QUOTE
Total-Over/Under: 50

I'm taking the over.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 14 2015,11:01

(TheCatt @ Nov. 14 2015,07:40)
QUOTE
Here are the other games:
The next three “Color Rush” games will include Week 11 (Titans-Jaguars), Week 12 (Panthers-Cowboys), and Week 15 (Buccaneers-Rams).

Wtf is up with that gimmick?  "That's what the fans want, players who look like they were drawn up on an 8-bit graphics processor."
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 14 2015,15:07
I assume it's the same as the throwback uniforms: New uniforms to sell.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 14 2015,15:48

(TheCatt @ Nov. 14 2015,17:07)
QUOTE
I assume it's the same as the throwback uniforms: New uniforms to sell.

Goddamn.  The least they could do is have a fucking colour scheme.  This one tone shit sucks.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 14 2015,16:29
Yeah, I agree.  Though I am curious to see more examples of it to see if it always sucks
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 14 2015,17:56
I get teams need to make revenue and all that but couldn't we have some "exhibition" jerseys each year so they can gauge reactions to what they might want to replace their regular gear?  Fucking hell, they could hold contests in each city and get virtually free ideas.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2015,09:37
I'm already off to a shitty start in the cash league thanks to Thursday's game.  However, I noticed my opponent is starting Lynch and Emmanuel Sanders, who both couldn't practice Friday.  He doesn't have Lynch's handcuff and Rawls torched the Cardinals earlier this year.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 15 2015,17:28
Wooooo skins!
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2015,17:43

(TheCatt @ Nov. 15 2015,19:28)
QUOTE
Wooooo skins!

Not how I expected that over/under to go, but I guess over.

Managed to win both fantasy leagues this week.

Observations:
Fuck Justin Forsett.  Just been horrible this year.  And Jeremy Hill.

Russell Wilson has underperformed, as has AJ Green.

On the flip side, Ryan Mathews has been better than I thought, Karlos Williams is impressive (I keep waiting for a Shady injury), and Gary Barnidge is easily the best pickup I made since grabbing Lynch several years back for $1.  I still got some trade bait if I want to upgrade WR or QB in the cash league.

Tony Brown is back to kicking ass.

Wtf happened to the Rams D?

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 15 2015,17:49
YeH, I expected more like 30 something to 30/somethibg
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2015,08:58
< Cruz is done >.

< Edelman probably gone >.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 16 2015,09:04
My roster in one of my fantasy leagues is full of studs, yet I'm somehow 2-8.

In my other league I've got shittier players, yet I'm somehow around .500.

Bad year.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2015,09:21

(Leisher @ Nov. 16 2015,12:04)
QUOTE
My roster in one of my fantasy leagues is full of studs, yet I'm somehow 2-8.

In my other league I've got shittier players, yet I'm somehow around .500.

Bad year.

I won this week with Blake Bortles as my QB.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2015,09:23
Bortles isn't a bad fantasy QB.  Got plenty of dudes to throw to, turning it over less than previous years, way more yards and completions.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2015,19:53
< Foles benched >.

Down to two undefeated teams.



Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 17 2015,04:31
< Bye, Rob Ryan >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2015,09:16

(Malcolm @ Nov. 13 2015,15:20)
QUOTE
< Cleveland announces they're forfeiting > Sunday's game.
QUOTE
Despite an obvious hesitation from head coach Mike Pettine, who declined to tell reporters who his starter would be on Friday and who seemed to prefer a healthy Josh McCown, Manziel will take the field against the division-rival Steelers.

< Browns write off the rest of the season >, practice squad players to fill in.  How the fuck does a 30-9 loss net you a starting gig?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2015,10:45
< Because you > can't have too many Tebow stories.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2015,20:39
Wow.  What a fucking boring game.

Cash league:
Allen Hurns chokes for my opponent while Michael Floyd can't practice for Arizona ... which means my busted sleeper, John Brown, might rack up a fucking catch for the first time in 3 fucking weeks.

Catt league:
Allen Hurns chokes for Malcolm.  Prediction: AJ Green chokes as well while Wes Welker puts up 40 and a score on my bench.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2015,10:20
< Bucs QB > threatens to sue CNN over rapey docu-film.

< Rob Ryan > claims he was blamed for Katrina.  I don't know, Rob, the lack of preparation looks a lot like your defensive schemes.

< Kaep getting traded > in offseason.  Wonder who wants that fixer-upper?

I'm also expecting to get destroyed in the cash league this week.  Tony Brown is on bye, Barny's on bye.

QB: Fitzpatrick at Houston.  I expect some unpleasant pass rushing.
RBs: Forsett at the Rams, Ivory at Houston.  Forsett has a tiny chance of doing well because the Rams can get dinged on the ground.  I expect decent things from Ivory.  Karlos Williams flexing as the change of pace dude for Shady.
WRs: Fuck me.  John Brown at Cincy, Rishard Matthews at Dallas.  I got no one better.  Chris Givens was my insurance if John couldn't play.  I've totally fucked up my WR picks the last couple years.
TE: Jordan Reed at Carolina.  Do not like the matchup.
K, D: Zuerlein + Rams at Baltimore.  Do not like the road game against Flaccid Flacco with an offense led by Case goddamn Keenum.  I expect Gurley to get stuffed and a fuckload of incomplete passes as a result.  Plenty of game time for Flacco to use his JV receiving corp and Forsett to wear down the Rams.

Opponent has Brady and Woodhead.  Those two dudes alone could outscore me.  That's Brady, at home playing Buffalo, on MNF.  Woody's at home against KC, who do a statistically solid job of keeping receiving RBs in check.  The only way Brady doesn't get 30+ points (because passing TDs are six fucking points in this league) is if LeSean + Karlos steamrolls NE.  Not many teams get the chance to run against them because the Cheating Douchebags generally go up big early.

Games where it's been "close" for them:
Week 1 .. Deangelo does for 127 on the ground
Week 2 .. 150+ rushing for Buffalo as Julian Edelman kills the Bills
Week 6 .. Frank Gore averages 6 yards per carry

They've had two weeks where they successfully contained a rusher.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2015,17:34
Catt league:
Newton, KC's D, and Doug Martin put me over the top.

Catt league:
Not breaking 50 points.

Fucked up day, too.  

1) Baltimore loses Flacco and Forsett.  Flaccid's gone for the season, Forsett has a broken right arm.

2) Carolina, 10-0.  Cam Newton's mom wouldn't have bet on the Panthers being 10-0 at the start of the season.

3) Jets are officially not contenders anymore as the Texans manhandle them.

4) Philly sinks a little further as a rookie QB lights them up for 5 TDs and Doug Martin runs over them for 230+.

5) Goddamn, KC looks dominant.

6) Vikes and Packers are 7-3, tied for div lead.

7) Frisco looks so fucking bad.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2015,18:09
< Washington player: > Our manginas are bleeding.  Does anyone have any tampons?
QUOTE
Said Hatcher: "I'm just frustrated with it. We shouldn't have to be punished for that. It's been every game, calls after calls that should've been made in our favor, but it goes to them. It's just not right. We in the league, too. We're National Football players. We got a team, too. We go out there, and we sweat and work hard too. I don't give a crap about the name. We are players. We've got feelings, too, and we want to win, too."

That's a Washington ... uh, cheerleader, I presume bitching about how his team gets penalized excessively due to their name.
QUOTE
Hatcher won't want to hear this, either, but coming into Week 11, only four teams had been flagged fewer times than Washington, per NFL Research.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 22 2015,18:11
Eagles suck.

Go Panthers!

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2015,18:29
The Vikes-Packer game was an embarrassment for MN's defense.  At one point, they had racked up 8 penalties for 110 yards.  I swear to christ that almost all of them came on third down, too.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 23 2015,07:29
< Lynch could be done >.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 23 2015,07:35
My opponent played Lynch in fantasy yesterday. I thought it was a slam dunk until Forsett broke his mofoing arm.

So we tied. Which is fucking bullshit.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 23 2015,07:49
Heh.  I dropped James Jones this week and played Rishard Matthews.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2015,08:02
< Refrigerator Perry > ain't got shit on this dude.
QUOTE
Poe is actually 11 pounds heavier than William "Refrigerator" Perry, who, according to the Chiefs, was 335 pounds the last time he crossed a goal line.

The scary thing is that Poe is far more athletic, too. For those who don't remember, he was the workout darling of the 2012 combine, a player who hurled up 44 reps on the bench press and ran a sub-5 40-yard dash at almost 350 pounds. On Sunday, he actually jumped over the Chargers' defensive line to score the touchdown and didn't look half bad doing it, either.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 24 2015,10:15
< Manziel is still an idiot. >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2015,10:25
Fucking christ, the top brass look like they're doing everything to give him the starting gig short of releasing all other QBs on their roster.  Cut anchor and put that loser out to free agency sea where more desperate teams can take a chance on him.  And I know it's Cleveland, but I wouldn't call them "desperate."  They've settled into their mediocrity quite happily and, given the shine they've taken to Boyziel, they want to remain there for awhile.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2015,21:20
Word is Johnny McRehab is benched, McCown is starting.  A boon for Barny owners.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2015,13:42
< Stedman Bailey > shot twice in the head.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 26 2015,09:16

(Malcolm @ Nov. 24 2015,23:20)
QUOTE
Word is Johnny McRehab is benched, McCown is starting.  A boon for Barny owners.

Hah.  Moved to third on the Cleveland QB depth chart.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 26 2015,10:44

(Malcolm @ Nov. 25 2015,00:20)
QUOTE
Word is Johnny McRehab is benched, McCown is starting.  A boon for Barny owners.

Damn. Traded Barny for Allen Hurns last week - which I am regretting now.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 27 2015,18:22
Redskins really aren't looking too bad...
QUOTE

Sun 11/29 NY Giants 1:00 pm ET
Mon 12/7 Dallas 8:30 pm ET
Sun 12/13 @ Chicago 1:00 pm ET
Sun 12/20 Buffalo 1:00 pm ET
Sat 12/26 @ Philadelphia 8:25 pm ET
Sun 1/3 @ Dallas 1:00 pm ET

Dallas sucks.  Eagles suck.  That should be an easy 3-0.

The other teams are all 50-50.  Beat the Giants, suddenly we're in 1st place :)

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 27 2015,22:58
Chicago is legit.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 28 2015,05:00

(Leisher @ Nov. 28 2015,01:58)
QUOTE
Chicago is legit.

Legit mediocre.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 28 2015,07:41
Legit chance of being 8-8
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 28 2015,09:33

(Leisher @ Nov. 28 2015,00:58)
QUOTE
Chicago is legit.

Hell, no.  Chicago isn't legit.  Their D gets murdered more often than your average Chicago citizen.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 29 2015,06:29
I'm sorry, I thought we were in a thread where someone was saying Washington had playoff aspirations.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 29 2015,06:45
< Tim Teebo gets dumped. >

On one hand, this is hilarious.

On the other, I've got to respect the guy for not caving on his principles.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2015,08:49
My heart fucking bleeds.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 29 2015,13:20
< Ndamukong Suh tells teammates he's better than them. >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2015,15:10

(Leisher @ Nov. 29 2015,15:20)
QUOTE
< Ndamukong Suh tells teammates he's better than them. >

Have you watched Miami play recently?

FF:

After getting driled in the cash league, looks like I'm winning there this week, which will bring 6 teams into a 6-way tie with 8-4 records.  Only two get bye weeks, and there's one game left.  I'm playing one next week.  Even better, the other 2 8-4 dudes in my div are playing each other.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2015,16:44
Goddamn.  Pittsburgh has given up 5 TDs to Russell Wilson.  That normally takes 5 weeks.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 29 2015,18:01

(Leisher @ Nov. 29 2015,09:29)
QUOTE
I'm sorry, I thought we were in a thread where someone was saying Washington had playoff aspirations.

WINNING OUR DIVISION, BITCH!
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 29 2015,18:02

(Malcolm @ Nov. 29 2015,19:44)
QUOTE
Goddamn.  Pittsburgh has given up 5 TDs to Russell Wilson.  That normally takes 5 weeks.

Is that why Baldwin's on my bench with 34 points?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2015,18:30

(TheCatt @ Nov. 29 2015,20:02)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Nov. 29 2015,19:44)
QUOTE
Goddamn.  Pittsburgh has given up 5 TDs to Russell Wilson.  That normally takes 5 weeks.

Is that why Baldwin's on my bench with 34 points?

6 for 145 with 3 scores.  Kearse had 40 and a deuce.  Jimmy Graham had a season-ending injury.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 29 2015,19:03
Pittsburgh won't win shit with their current secondary.

And the difference between Mike Tomlin and Bill Belicheck is Bill would never, ever call a ridiculously stupid trick play with a backup QB throwing to a lineman. Seattle was getting their ass handed to them and that play turned the entire game around.

4th and 1 on your opponent's 30 and you take Ben and Antonio Brown off the field? WTF?

Posted by Troy on Nov. 29 2015,20:23
Do it Broncos. make us the only x-0 team.

e:fuck



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2015,20:35
Gronk looks like he could be gone for the rest of the season.  

EDIT: Caldwell for the go-ahead six.

EDITx2: Fucking Gostkowski.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 29 2015,20:58
Patriots go down!
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2015,21:13

(Leisher @ Nov. 29 2015,22:58)
QUOTE
Patriots go down!

Edelman's gone.  Amendola with a bum knee, who knows when he'll back, let alone healthy.  Gronk looked like he wasn't returning any time soon.  Dion's out.  Their offense is decimated.  The two Brandons are their biggest threats now.
Posted by Troy on Nov. 29 2015,21:15
YESSSS WORST UNDEFEATED TEAM IN THE LEAGUE - THE EXPERTS WERE RIGHT
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 30 2015,06:57
Redskins vs Panthers in the NFC title game?
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2015,08:35
Allegedly no damage to Gronk's knee.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2015,14:48
My bench in the cash league got destroyed this week:

Bradshaw ... gone for season
Jimmy Graham ... gone for season
Ryan Mathews ... still not progressing through concussion protocol
Karlos Williams ... shoulder injury, might not be ready this week

This leaves my bench with 2 healthy Wilsons in Russell and Marquess.  Running with 2 RBs/WRs/TEs the rest of the way unless they get hurt.  Have to shop for a new D, too.  Russell has nice weeks in 14 and 15, and Fitzpatrick complements him with good matchups in during other weeks.  I got $20-something left in free agent money.  If I get past the first round of the postseason, it'll be impressive.  Two weeks would be a miracle.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2015,17:59
Random thoughts on tonight's game, these are kind of Wasteland, OH-related, so I guess they're indirectly directed at Stranger:

1) I saw a banner in Cleveland (aka Wasteland, OH) during the Ravens game that read, "We still have LeBron."  Stranger, tell the fans that Baltimore doesn't have a team in the NBA and hasn't had a thugball franchise since 1954.

2) Dwayne Bowe has $9M guaranteed in his contract.  It was probably written and signed by the same genius that gave a < Real World, NFL: Cleveland > cast member a guaranteed $8M over 4 years.  Anyhow, the Mythbusters wrapped up their last season and they probably want shit to do.  I bet they can design and build a robot that can:

i) run all the signature Bowe plays: incorrect routes, routes where he'll never be open, erratic routes, routes directly into coverage, and finally routes that take so long to execute the QB gets sacked

ii) drop passes even if it's wide open

iii) come in under $9M

You should hit them up on Twitter or Facebook or something.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2015,18:43

(Malcolm @ Nov. 30 2015,10:35)
QUOTE
Allegedly no damage to Gronk's knee.

Reports are coming out he'll miss "multiple weeks."
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 30 2015,19:15

(Leisher @ Nov. 30 2015,09:57)
QUOTE
Redskins vs Panthers in the NFC title game?

omg omg omg omg that would be awesome :)

Soooo not happening though. NFC East winner is dropping to whoever the wild card is.

PS - Redskins are currently the NFC East leader.  Chew on that.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2015,20:38
WOOHOO!!!  Blocked!
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 01 2015,06:08
QUOTE
PS - Redskins are currently the NFC East leader.  Chew on that.


Worst division in football. You could argue for the AFC South, but there are signs of life there.

And fucking Cleveland. Just wow. If it wasn't for bad luck, they'd have no luck. Best sign of the night: "Hey Baltimore, why don't you take this team too?"

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2015,07:37
< First >, Johnny Drunkard loses his starting gig to McCown.  Now he's got a chance to lose the job again to a completely different dude.  In a comedic twist, the other Cleveland drunk, Josh Gordon, is tweeting his support for Tipsy McStagger the QB.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 01 2015,09:06
Because it's Cleveland, < refs missed offsides that would have brought back the "kick six". >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2015,10:38

(Leisher @ Dec. 01 2015,11:06)
QUOTE
Because it's Cleveland, < refs missed offsides that would have brought back the "kick six". >

< NFL responds >.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 01 2015,10:52
Horseshit. I think offsides is called less than holding. I see it all the time and I don't go by the black line on TV. I go by the yardage. Guys routinely line up offsides and it never gets called.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2015,11:08
< Cleveland > signs another winner.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2015,11:27
< Crew from last week's > SF-ARI game is transferred.

McCown is out for the season.  Austin Davis or Johnny Broziel?



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2015,12:33
< Gronk > says he's being unfairly targeted for OPI calls.  Wtf-ever.  The Pats play that fucking victim card an awful lot.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2015,10:56
Fucking cash league went nuclear last night and this morning due to trade controversy right before the deadline.  One motherfucker dropped his entire team right before the free agent auction this morning.  Fucking prick.  May as well just hand the championship to the dude that happened to be online during that magical 60-minute fire sale.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2015,13:26
The fire sale is being undone but the chances of having a league next year are about 0.  This will be the second one that's folded in as many years, partially due to trade bullshit.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2015,17:42
Down two owners for next year already.  Just goddamnit.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 02 2015,18:01
I love that the media still has to justify their "Carloina sucks" theme: < http://fivethirtyeight.com/feature....rt-11-0 >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2015,18:23
QUOTE
The Panthers win ugly

Bah, fuck off and die.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 02 2015,18:24

(Leisher @ Dec. 02 2015,21:01)
QUOTE
I love that the media still has to justify their "Carloina sucks" theme: < http://fivethirtyeight.com/feature....rt-11-0 >

They're not saying the Panthers suck in that article, just that they're worse than every other 11-0 franchise in history.  I don't argue the point.  They're in the weak NFC South and play the weak AFC South and NFC East.  That has to be the easiest schedule in football.

< Packers at Redskins - >That would be awesome.  I would be sooooooo happy as I sold my playoff tickets :p

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2015,08:04
Matchup question:

WR

John Brown at STL
or
Anquan Boldin at CHI

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 03 2015,08:11
I can't weigh-in on those things, I'm always wrong.  (wait...)

< NFL Predictions. >  I'll be honest, I'm a little surprised to see Redskins only 53-47% favorites against Dallas.  But I'll take a 33% chance to win the division.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 03 2015,09:06
I'm glad people are still doubting the Panthers. All these 1 rankings are scary. The team loves to be underdogs, tends to perform better in underdog situations.

Wouldn't be Carolina if someone wasn't throwing some shade.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2015,20:58
20-0 at the start of the 3rd and Detroit still manages to pull a Cleveland and lose it.  They gave GB an extra play at the end ... and I had to remind myself Suh didn't play for them anymore ... where one of their fucktards facemasked Rodgers for 15 yards at time expired.  Next play, hail mary, Pack Queers win.  To pour salt in the wound, Theo Riddick barely got me more points than Richard B. Riddick.


Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 05 2015,07:35
QUOTE
But who? The answer is probably the Washington Redskins, who are tied with the New York Giants for first place at 5-6. Washington doesn't play another opponent that has a winning record (the Chicago Bears and Buffalo Bills are each 5-6). The New York Giants play three winning teams (New York Jets, Carolina Panthers, Minnesota Vikings), the Philadelphia Eagles play two of the best teams in football (New England Patriots, Arizona Cardinals), and the Dallas Cowboys without Tony Romo play two winning teams (Green Bay Packers and Jets).

Washington also has a tiebreaker edge, with just one loss in the division so far. The Eagles and Cowboys have two each and the Giants have three.

Wooooooooooooooooooooo!  Yeah, we suck, but whatevs.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2015,13:38

(Leisher @ Nov. 28 2015,01:58)
QUOTE
Chicago is legit.

< I'm just going to leave this here. >
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 06 2015,15:04
they're not as bad as you think. SF is MUCH better with Gabbert at QB than Kap. Ditto for Denver and Brock vs Manning.

Washington looks to be in great shape though. The Giants are in disarray, the Eagles should fold, and the Cowboys lost Romo before Washington has played them even once.

So I guess who knocks them out of the playoffs and where does Cousins sign?

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2015,16:50
< Eagles are now predicted as very slight favorites to win division. >

Stupid NE.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 06 2015,18:17
The Eagles seem relevant when Bradford plays, which says something about how badly Sanchez sucks.

NE could be in trouble in the playoffs. I was listening to Bill Simmons, a huge NE homer, and he was talking about seeing guys catching passes from Brady that he didn't even know were on the team.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2015,07:09
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Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2015,07:26
He says he planned to stick the landing, but forgot to drop the ball, so he couldn't hang on.

There's a real chance they'll be 7-7 after the next two weeks. @Cincy then home for Denver. I feel like they need to win 1 of those games to get into the playoffs.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2015,07:29
Cash league:
Fuck me.  Played the wrong dudes again.  Wilson's benched, as was Doug Baldwin and John Brown.  Ivory, Riddick, and Boldin totally fucked me over.  If Jordan Reed and Washington's D combine for 25.5 points, I win.  It doesn't really matter except to my playoff seeding, but I'd like to finish the season with a div win.

Catt league:
Hanging respectably with some bastard that scored over 100 points.  I'm leading by 15 in a 2-week ordeal with Reed tonight still to go.

C'mon, fucking Redskins.  Shut out, defensive TD, and a couple Jordan scores would be cool.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2015,07:33
I can't believe this, but I'm going to defend Belicheck.

< He's taking heat for this interaction with the league's only female ref. >

I don't get why folks are upset.
1. He clearly never touches her. He's just using his hands to describe what he saw, and he does so above her shoulders.
2. She doesn't seem to understand what personal space is as she steps WAY too close to him.
3. He takes a step back and is clearly uncomfortable with how close she came to him.

People need to relax.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2015,08:08

(Leisher @ Dec. 07 2015,10:26)
QUOTE
He says he planned to stick the landing, but forgot to drop the ball, so he couldn't hang on.

Well, he sure surprised the girl behind the post.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2015,08:43

(TheCatt @ Dec. 07 2015,11:08)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Dec. 07 2015,10:26)
QUOTE
He says he planned to stick the landing, but forgot to drop the ball, so he couldn't hang on.

Well, he sure surprised the girl behind the post.

Yeah, that made me cringe especially after what happened in New Orleans where the Saint threw the ball against the wall just missing a photographer and a woman. (He was also flagged.)
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2015,08:45
< Manziel is the starter again. >

At least until he gets drunk, so until tomorrow...

Seriously though, they HAVE to do this now. Find out if there's a future with this kid or not. Then they can either keep him or trade him to Dallas.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 07 2015,09:19
No problem with Bill, stadiums are loud - you have to get close. Coaches talk to referees right up next to each other all the time.

Antonio Brown though, damn I never noticed the woman behind the padding. I'm cool with celebrations, but perhaps body control should trump style.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2015,10:21

(Leisher @ Dec. 07 2015,10:45)
QUOTE
< Manziel is the starter again. >

At least until he gets drunk, so until tomorrow...

Seriously though, they HAVE to do this now. Find out if there's a future with this kid or not. Then they can either keep him or trade him to Dallas.

Bleh.  I'd still have to stick with Austin Davis.  At least I know he's showing up clean, sober, and on time.  I might try toss Johhny Tradebait some starts to up his stock a little but he's not the future in Cleveland anymore than Bridgewater is in Minnesota.  You pissed away a draft pick on the wrong dude.  Suck it up, get what value you can, and move on.

Speaking of the Vikings...  I've been thinking about how totally < fucked they are >.  That's the team leader/child abuser bitching about how he was "outcoached."  I've never seen coaching in my fucking life that was an excuse for the shitty player performances I saw yesterday.  It was like harkening back to the tenure of Tavaris Jackson.  Their D is overrated against both the pass and run, their ground game has about two years left before AP's wheels come off, the passing game has been DOA since fucking Brad Johnson left, and the O-line is a joke.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2015,12:21
< Pats fan pays up. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2015,12:24
< Rams fire OC >.  Well, maybe that's a bit of a stretch.  He's really more of a "coordinator."

< Demarco > rides the bench.  Goddamn, do I ever need Mathews to come back this week.  Fantasy playoffs start and Murray's not the favoured son.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2015,12:28
Demarco Murray is the DC Comics of the NFL. He doesn't know his own product, and thus, signed with the wrong team.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2015,16:26

(Malcolm @ Dec. 07 2015,10:29)
QUOTE
Catt league:
Hanging respectably with some bastard that scored over 100 points.  I'm leading by 15 in a 2-week ordeal with Reed tonight still to go.

C'mon, fucking Redskins.  Shut out, defensive TD, and a couple Jordan scores would be cool.

Hanve't been logging in.  Logged in tonight, I'm 4-8, and in the loser's bracket.  OH well
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2015,17:01
I'm the #2 seed in the loser bracket.  Sucks because I bet one more week would've let me break into the winner's tree.  My players are coming on: cam, green, even Jeremy hill.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2015,17:41
Wow, which team will suck worse tonight?
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2015,17:46
5:30 into the game: 3 punts + 1 fumble lost already.  Oh, and a fumble not lost too

another punt.  Dallas has 9 yds of offense, Washington has -1.

7 punts in the first quarter.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2015,18:49
Fucking horeshit calls against the Redskins.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2015,19:58
This is truly an exciting, edge-of-your-seat game with an atmosphere comparable to the finest the LPGA tour has to offer.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2015,20:36
Holy shit, it got exciting fast.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2015,20:49
Well, if you can't win that game, you suck, Redskins..
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2015,21:58
Fucking lost the cash league last game by 15-20 points.  Ah, well.  I wasn't getting a bye or knocked out of the playoffs either way.  Seattle's offense is also getting hot at exactly the right time.  Baltimore, Cleveland, and St. Louis in the next 3 weeks.  I need Ryan Mathews to clear concussion protocol now so he can vulture Demarco's workload.  His runs have been looking better than Murray's all damned season.  If DM got sat for Sproles, I bet he'd take a backseat to Ryan.

Catt league: 4th straight week of 95 points or more, got 122 -- tops in the league, an 18 point cushion for next week, and hilariously enough my opponent had Baldwin and Wilson on his bench.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 08 2015,05:29
That was the NFL's impression of a basketball game. You only needed to watch the last two minutes.

And I thought Murray was no longer the first stringer in Philly?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2015,07:35

(Leisher @ Dec. 08 2015,07:29)
QUOTE
That was the NFL's impression of a basketball game. You only needed to watch the last two minutes.

And I thought Murray was no longer the first stringer in Philly?

He's paid too much to bench.  He was 50/50 with Ryan before the head trauma.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2015,08:08
< My FF draft bust > from a year ago finally gets cut by another team.

< The Scooby-Do > villain chase scene that is the NFC East playoff hunt.

Cash league playoff roster as the #6 seed:

Going with a "3-2" setup with Russell Wilson at QB unless someone gets hurt:

2 RBs:
Chris Ivory + Mathews/Sproles/Riddick

2 WRs:
Downtown Tony Brown + Doug "Still a Better Actor than Stephen" Baldwin (maybe John Brown if Doug falters)

2 TEs:
Jordan Reed and Barny.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2015,08:59
< Cincy vs. Cleveland >, which is interesting considering both of them sucked equally 10-15 years ago.
QUOTE
When the Browns and Bengals both stunk for years, Cleveland fans knew they could count on bloodying Cincy at least once a season. For so long, the Bengals were just as inept as anything Chris Palmer, Butch Davis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Pat Shurmur, Rob Chudzinski or -- almost finished -- Mike Pettine have churned out.

But not anymore. While the Bengals clung to their team-building philosophy, the Browns blew up the machine over and over in a stunning show of outward desperation. Nothing lasting, nothing real. While the Bengals have sought specific players to fit their scheme for more than a decade, hundreds of athletes have been wasted by Cleveland.
...
Here we sit, hours after the team has switched quarterbacks again. It was a decision that was made either by the coach, the general manager, the team president, the owner or a tangled collection of them all.

I can't help but think back to the league meetings in Phoenix last March. Around the NFL's Conor Orr and I were grabbing dinner at the hotel bar after a long day when Cardinals coach Bruce Arians strolled in with Steve Keim, the team's talented general manager. We noticed right away how they happily sat together, talking, laughing and living it up. Two peas in a pod.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2015,11:01
< Demarco and the Eagles owner > talking?
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 08 2015,14:17

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2015,14:36
What do season tickets go for in Cleveland nowadays?  $50 for all the home games put together?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2015,19:29
Mathews passed the neuro test and was back practicing.  Fuck yeah.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2015,10:38
< Free agent > gets himself signed through Twitter.

< Johnny Shithead > might be on his last chance.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2015,18:27
Tony Brown < fined >.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 10 2015,06:04
I had it confirmed to me last night that the fines go to a charity. Basically, the NFL gives the player a list of charities that are approved. The player selects one and the money goes there. Then the player gets to write it off on their taxes.

It's one of the few things the NFL does right.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 10 2015,10:24
I'm sure Stranger knows all about this, but < a former Browns radio guy is claiming there's some huge sexual harassment scandal going on in the Browns' offices. >

Also found at that link:
< Bart Scott hid in a bathroom to avoid signing with the Browns. >

< Rams, 49ers, Cowboys, and Eagles are in the running for Manziel. >

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 10 2015,10:26
< The Most Painful Teams to Watch. >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2015,10:34
QUOTE
I'm sure Stranger knows all about this, but a former Browns radio guy is claiming there's some huge sexual harassment scandal going on in the Browns' offices.

Hilarious.  Cleveland just keeps getting better.

QUOTE
Bart Scott hid in a bathroom to avoid signing with the Browns.

One of the smartest piss breaks ever.

QUOTE
Rams, 49ers, Cowboys, and Eagles are in the running for Manziel.

Rams: no fucking way.  They've got enough problems with shitty QBs who don't act like they're still in high school.
49ers: maybe.  I haven't seen Johnny outperform Blaine Gabbert yet.
Eagles: depends whether or not Chip's got a job.  He's not a Johnny backer.
Cowboys: because Jerry Jones is insane.  Ding ding ding.

< Gronk back at practice >.  Everyone remembers the last time he rushed back from an injury, so this should be fun to watch.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2015,14:57
Ryan Mathews practiced in full today which means he passed the protocol.  Sweet.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2015,20:23
Vikings are hanging with the Cards down to the last seconds of the 4th, with the purples being down their top four defensive players ....


aaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnndddddddd Bridgewater loses the fumble on 3rd down IN FUCKING FIELD GOAL RANGE as the clock expires.  Nice work, fuckwit.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 11 2015,08:32
< Goddell-bot > talks about how badly his anti-concussion measures are implemented.
QUOTE
"He should have been removed from the play, but it wasn't the ATC spotter," Goodell said. "The ATC spotter is just to make sure the medical personnel sees (these) individuals ... We did not want the ATC spotter, making some type of evaluation from the top of a stadium.

"What we want to do is make sure the ATC spotter is alerting medical personnel on the field when there is an issue and some player is either in distress, disoriented, or something that we think requires medical attention. And in that case, they go to the sideline and the proper medical people go through the protocol, and that's doctors as well as trainers and the independent neurologists."


Let me bring those two phrases into focus:
"We did not want the ATC spotter, making some type of evaluation from the top of a stadium..."
"What we want to do is make sure the ATC spotter is alerting medical personnel on the field when there is an issue"

What stupid fucking catch 22 kind of logic is that?  The spotter's not supposed to make an evaluation but he has to know when there's an issue the medical personnel missed?



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2015,10:45
Go Bills / Redskins / Panthers /  Dolphins!
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2015,11:10
Cash league:
I'll know my total by the end of the first game.  My opponent is more or less the same, except with two dudes going in the second set.  Whiskey and whisky on standby.

Catt league:
All my players go in the first set of games.  Opponent has half his team going between Sunday and Monday night.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2015,12:08

(Leisher @ Dec. 06 2015,18:04)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Nov. 28 2015,01:58)
QUOTE
Chicago is legit.


(TheCatt @ Dec. 06 2015,18:04)
QUOTE

< I'm just going to leave this here. >

they're not as bad as you think. SF is MUCH better with Gabbert at QB than Kap.

< I'm just going to leave this here. >



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2015,12:19
WOOHOO!  Barny's 5 for 84 with a score.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2015,13:06
6-7, bitches! :)
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2015,16:04
Cash league:
Put up high score for the 1st week of the playoffs.  Wilson and Baldwin were all-stars, Reed and Barny both near doubled their projected points.

Catt league:
Wilson and Baldwin may knock me out of the loser bracket in the 1st round, but eh, whatever.  I need Beckham to suck for a game if I hope to win.  Fucking Jeremy Hill and the Lions D hurt.  Olsen didn't help (I benched Reed, the wrong TE).

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2015,19:07
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Catt league:
Wilson and Baldwin may knock me out of the loser bracket in the 1st round, but eh, whatever.

Blount is out for the game.  If LaFell and Gostkowski don't go insane, Odell will need a respectable game to knock me off.

In other news, how shitty do the Chargers look?  They're riding that Melvin Gordon titanic straight to the ocean floor.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2015,20:29

(Malcolm @ Dec. 13 2015,21:07)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Catt league:
Wilson and Baldwin may knock me out of the loser bracket in the 1st round, but eh, whatever.

Blount is out for the game.  If LaFell and Gostkowski don't go insane, Odell will need a respectable game to knock me off.

Goddamn gostkowski.  Still, I'm up 218-202 and he's only got Odell.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 14 2015,05:56

(TheCatt @ Dec. 13 2015,15:08)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Dec. 06 2015,18:04)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Nov. 28 2015,01:58)
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Chicago is legit.


(TheCatt @ Dec. 06 2015,18:04)
QUOTE

< I'm just going to leave this here. >

they're not as bad as you think. SF is MUCH better with Gabbert at QB than Kap.

< I'm just going to leave this here. >

Because SF was playing better with Kaep?

Kaep is on the same career track as RGIII.

QUOTE
Goddamn gostkowski.  Still, I'm up 218-202 and he's only got Odell.


I'm up 16 as well. He's only got Landry left, whom I cut earlier this year, so I fully expect that to bite me in the ass.

This week has sucked.

My starting QB: Dalton (out of the game on the first drive)
One of my starting RBs: T.J. Yelton (out of the game around halftime)
And I had to start Steffon Diggs because Allen Hurns was a game time decision. Of course Diggs gets 1 point and Hurns played and went off for 100+ yards and a TD.

Worst season ever.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2015,06:40
QUOTE
SF is MUCH better with Gabbert at QB than Kap.

QUOTE
Because SF was playing better with Kaep?


Those are the same statements, the team is broken.  Broken.  Neither of these QBs is worth a damn, though.




Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2015,06:47
< Cousins gonna get paid? >

QUOTE
If Cousins thinks he can make $16 million per year — laugh if you wish, but that’s what Andy Dalton got per year on his deal before his breakout this season, and Dalton’s deal ranks 18th in average salary per season among NFL quarterbacks according to Spotrac — is that a good investment? Or do the Redskins just slap the franchise tag on him to get another year of evaluation? The franchise tag last year was $18.544 million. Wow.


Ugh, no, please, no.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 14 2015,07:03
He'll get the franchise tag and RGIII will be sent packing.

What if he ends up in Philly and wins a Super Bowl with Chip Kelly?



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2015,07:06

(Leisher @ Dec. 14 2015,10:03)
QUOTE
What if he ends up in Philly and wins a Super Bowl with Chip Kelly?

There's 3 things wrong with that statement.  4 if I think a little harder.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,07:16
QUOTE
And I had to start Steffon Diggs because Allen Hurns was a game time decision.

Hurns was not game time.  I knew on Friday that he was a go barring a pregame practice setback.

QUOTE
Those are the same statements, the team is broken.  Broken.  Neither of these QBs is worth a damn, though.

I've slightly more faith in Gabbert's throwing abilities than Kaep's, mainly because Gabbert doesn't have his legs to fall back on.

QUOTE
There's 3 things wrong with that statement.  4 if I think a little harder.

At least four.



Posted by Stranger on Dec. 14 2015,07:47
OH GOD NO!! Johnny is going to do just enough these final four games so that he, the coaches and GM are all back again next year!!

My biggest nightmare is coming true! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,07:53

(Stranger @ Dec. 14 2015,09:47)
QUOTE
OH GOD NO!! Johnny is going to do just enough these final four games so that he, the coaches and GM are all back again next year!!

My biggest nightmare is coming true! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I'm thinking the coach would've tossed his ass to the curb months ago if not for the execs.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 14 2015,08:24
QUOTE
Hurns was not game time.  I knew on Friday that he was a go barring a pregame practice setback.


Not according to the ESPN alerts I was getting.

QUOTE
There's 3 things wrong with that statement.  4 if I think a little harder.


That'd be Washington's luck though. Just like how Cleveland fans say things like, "Watch, we'll release Manziel's dumb ass and Pittsburgh will pick him up and win two Super Bowls with him." (That's a direct quote from a Cleveland fan I work with.)

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2015,08:38
The NFC East is too bad for that to happen.  Though I could see him being a backup in Dallas, and beating us last game of the season to clinch the division, or some bullshit.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,08:46

(Leisher @ Dec. 14 2015,10:24)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Hurns was not game time.  I knew on Friday that he was a go barring a pregame practice setback.


Not according to the ESPN alerts I was getting.

< Rotoworld, dude >.
QUOTE
Allen Hurns officially probable to face Colts
Dec 11 - 11:27 AM



Posted by Troy on Dec. 14 2015,09:01
Need Landry Jones to score 10 tonight. Go Dolphins.

Panthers are just making me happy. Not much else to be said. Also, Nashville rules.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2015,09:05
I finished 7th in my 12 team league, so out of the big playoffs. I had a bye this week.  Of course, I've scored the 2nd most pts.

If I had played this week, I would have started a different lineup, and had 35-49 more points.  My band of misfits exploded at the wrong time.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,10:33
Christ.  Hartline's gone for the season, which means Barny should only get more targets.

< Johnny Tradebait > isn't winning over analysts.
QUOTE
NBC's Rodney Harrison was more brutal.

"If I'm a guy in that locker room, I don't want to play with Johnny Manziel," said Harrison. "Simply I can't trust him. I don't know what Johnny Manziel is going to show up. The professional one. Or the drunk one."
...
How long will it be before Jerry Jones' Cowboys makes a play for him?

Hah.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,14:56
< Dalton's thumb > is not in need of cutting.

< Hoyer is out >.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2015,15:15
TJ Yates! TJ Yates! TJ Yates!
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,20:22
Odell Beckham must be fishing for bluefin tuna ... because he is fucking killing some Dolphins.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 14 2015,20:54
I may have had my worst fantasy season ever, but at least I won't be playing in the toilet bowl.

I won despite only getting 8 points total from my QB and a RB before they were lost for the game. Thank you Teddy Ginn Jr. and your 2 receptions on the day for 120 yards and 2 TDs!

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 15 2015,06:16
I'm 7-7 in one league, but it only has a top 4 playoff, else I would have been in (6th seed).  The other league 12 teams, 6 team playoff, I was 7th seed.

Which is pretty much about how I do every year.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 15 2015,07:30
Jarvis Landry scored 9, I needed 10 for the win.

Which meant I fucking tied ANOTHER game. League shouldn't be rounding to whole numbers, it's fucking shit up.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 15 2015,07:42

(Troy @ Dec. 15 2015,10:30)
QUOTE
Jarvis Landry scored 9, I needed 10 for the win.

Which meant I fucking tied ANOTHER game. League shouldn't be rounding to whole numbers, it's fucking shit up.

We do down to the hundredths.  Miller got 9.9 pts in my league.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2015,09:19
< Ah, Jerry >.
QUOTE
"We'll go balls out with Dez"
...
Jerry Jones on Jason Garrett managing anger: "You see very few redheads that aren't about to blow up inside when somebody's not doing right"


< Ravens pick > up a hammer.

< Fins fucked >.
QUOTE
It's crazy to think that just a few months ago, after the signing of Ndamukong Suh and the acquisition of receivers like Kenny Stills and tight end Jordan Cameron, that we were talking about a Super Bowl. A study done by the fine folks at Harvard pegged them to win the division!

I've said time and time again, fuck Harvard.



Posted by Leisher on Dec. 15 2015,09:53
You repeated your links.

The Dolphins one goes to the Ravens story.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2015,09:59
Son of a Manziel.  Fixed.

< Opinions on Lamar Miller >.
QUOTE
He should join a monastery before re-signing with the Miami Dolphins.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2015,19:26
Damn, I'm hurting at RB, LeSean picked the wrong time to become competent, Karlos Williams picked the wrong time to get hurt, and Philly's backfield is a no-sell this week.  Putting in bids for Denard and Hightower, but there's no way I'm getting either because of my limited funds.  On the flip side, I do have Riddick who's playing the Saints and 49ers, respectively.  I am seriously considering benching Downtown Tony Brown for John Brown.

Why?  Denver's allowed two passing TDs all year, one last week and another in week four.  Philly has been getting roasted, especially as of late, by deep shot, vertical WRs.  I'm also feeling good about Wilson and Baldwin squashing Cleveland's secondary like a streamroller over jello, Ivory at Dallas's shit-tacular run D (maybe garbage time before Powell comes in to mop up), Barny's likely increased usage, and Seattle's horrible tendency to let quality TEs run rampant.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 16 2015,10:54
QUOTE
Putting in bids for Denard and Hightower, but there's no way I'm getting either because of my limited funds.

Yep, the one cocksucker in the #1 seed got both of them because he's got triple the free agent cash of anyone.  However, those two dudes are his starting RBs this week, so he's got no one better.  Anyhow, I'm not playing him.  He did have to drop Bilal Powell to do it, which means I get Ivory's handcuff.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2015,09:50
In the never-ending saga that is the Cleveland Browns digging their heels into football mediocrity...

< Pettine > decides to spit in karma's face.
QUOTE
"Would you put him there with the guys that can transcend their supporting cast?" Pettine asked, via ESPN. "The (Tom) Bradys, whether it's Aaron Rodgers, (Drew) Brees, (Ben) Roethlisberger, the ones that you would consider the two, three, four elite guys? No. But he's certainly played himself into that next tier."

Let's swap out New England's WRs for Seattle's and see what happens.

< Johnny Tradebait >  keeps in touch with local drunk.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2015,11:04

(Malcolm @ Dec. 16 2015,12:54)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Putting in bids for Denard and Hightower, but there's no way I'm getting either because of my limited funds.

Yep, the one cocksucker in the #1 seed got both of them because he's got triple the free agent cash of anyone.  However, those two dudes are his starting RBs this week, so he's got no one better.  Anyhow, I'm not playing him.  He did have to drop Bilal Powell to do it, which means I get Ivory's handcuff.

Opted out of Powell and picked up James White going against the Titans.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2015,19:02
Someone dropped the Bengals D for an unknown reason.  They're at San Fran.  Fuck yeah.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2015,19:35
So, I guess today is another color day for the NFL?  The red/yellow works better than Christmas, I think.  But man.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2015,20:09

(TheCatt @ Dec. 17 2015,21:35)
QUOTE
So, I guess today is another color day for the NFL?  The red/yellow works better than Christmas, I think.  But man.



From < here >.

This is the last fucking one, thank god.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 18 2015,15:24
Update to the Los Angeles team thing.
QUOTE
There was back and forth this week on whether the NFL will kick $100 million into St. Louis' stadium effort, but the idea itself is rife with problems. First, it's fair to ask whether or not Oakland and San Diego would be afforded similar help. Second, there's the question of whether it would get through a three-quarters vote of owners. Third, there's the question of whether Rams owner Stan Kroenke would accept the help. The bottom line is that Kroenke's goal in securing a new stadium is to change the economics of the franchise, and, per club sources, Kroenke sees St. Louis' current deal as falling far short of doing that, viewing the deal as substantially worse than the one the Vikings got in Minneapolis. All that would set up an interesting circumstance if the Rams are denied entry to Los Angeles, prompting Kroenke to look at all options in and out of St. Louis. The next step will be the three clubs submitting relocation applications, with the window to do so opening Jan. 4. The hope of all parties was that, by now, the league would have found an elegant solution and would be in the final stages of brokering a deal. No one thought this would come to a vote that didn't have a predetermined result. But here we are: The owners don't have any idea which way this will go with less than a month until the Jan. 12-13 meeting at which the vote will take place.

The last Rams home game had a packed house chanting, "Keep the Rams," when the players ran out of the tunnel.  Kroenke continues to play his "I'm a bitch" cards.

I also just realized I have to start Ivory and White for my RBs this week.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2015,05:30
Go Redskins/Panthers/Cardinals!
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2015,10:52
Go hawks and Steelers.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2015,11:25

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2015,13:52)
QUOTE
Go hawks and Steelers.

Why?
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2015,12:53
QUOTE
In the last eight games Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins has thrown 16 touchdown passes to only three interceptions. His play down the stretch has been pivotal for the Redskins.

I remember when you could count on Kirk for an INT every damned game.  In fact, it seemed like he was always good for 2 of them.  
QUOTE
Overall he has played in 20 games in his career, and in fully half of them he has delivered up the ball to the other team at least twice.

I'm not sure who's responsible for Cousins' progression, but if it's Gruden, < Matt Cavanaugh, > or the play-calling, but that's quite a turn-around.

In other news - Fuck the Giants, and fuck OBJ for being a bitch.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2015,15:37

(TheCatt @ Dec. 20 2015,13:25)
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(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2015,13:52)
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Go hawks and Steelers.

Why?

I need Wilson, Baldwin, and tony Brown to do something.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 20 2015,16:14
Wilson did something and Brown is having a good game.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2015,16:28
Checking the score in a few.  Opponent still has Fitzgerald and ivory sucked balls.  All my dudes are done after the second set of games.  And the more Pittsburgh hammers denver, the more points his D loses.


Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2015,16:35

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2015,18:37)
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(TheCatt @ Dec. 20 2015,13:25)
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(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2015,13:52)
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Go hawks and Steelers.

Why?

I need Wilson, Baldwin, and tony Brown to do something.

Fantasy has ruined football.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2015,16:44
Fuck that.  And god fucking bless James White and Jordan Reed.  Baldwin with 2 scores and naturally Barny picks up another TD.  That dude is a machine.  How many souls did Cleveland sell to get him?

Holy fuck.  Not even close.  I topped 150 and bested last week's top score (also mine) by 20 points.  The league championship is going to be a rematch of last year.  Ivory is the only dude I had that sucked.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2015,19:17
Murray looks pissed enough to steal an Arizona uniform and try to sneak on their team.  They do need an RB after David Johnson got taken off.

Correction: Johnson's back.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2015,20:32
How bad are Philly fans?  Stat just flashed during the game: since the stadium opened, eagles have won more on the road.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2015,04:50
Well, here's hoping the Eagles lose one more at home next week.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2015,06:56
Win and in!  Win and in!
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2015,08:25
Starting Texas QBs next week:

Kellen Moore (Cowboys)
Brandon Weeden (Texans)

Ouch.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2015,08:30
Well, good for Weeden for winning with the Texans.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2015,08:34

(TheCatt @ Dec. 21 2015,10:30)
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Well, good for Weeden for winning with the Texans.

To quote the article I just read, "Weeden's always looked better in relief than starting."
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2015,09:12
< Patriots sign Steven Jackson >.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2015,11:48
< Just in case > anyone's hoping Justin Blackmon's going to make a comeback...
QUOTE
Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Justin Blackmon was arrested on a DUI charge on Saturday night, according to arrest logs provided by the Carter County (Oklahoma) Sheriff's Office.

Here's a list of his greatest hits:

Jun-2012: DUI
Apr-2013: 4-game suspension for violation of NFL substance abuse policy
Nov-2014: Indefinite suspension for violation of NFL substance abuse policy
Jul-2014: arrested for possession of bud
Dec-2015: DUI

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 21 2015,13:23

(TheCatt @ Dec. 20 2015,15:53)
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In other news - Fuck the Giants, and fuck OBJ for being a bitch.

< One game ban >
Posted by Troy on Dec. 21 2015,14:17
Playoffs, Riding Cam to the finals in one game, other game is a train wreck.

FUCK OBJ YOU BALLERINA BITCH

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2015,14:18

(TheCatt @ Dec. 21 2015,15:23)
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(TheCatt @ Dec. 20 2015,15:53)
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In other news - Fuck the Giants, and fuck OBJ for being a bitch.

< One game ban >

Sweet.  Xavier Rhodes can cover Rueben Randle.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 22 2015,13:06
< Dance rock band > may salvage Redskins trademark.
QUOTE
The decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington, D.C., vacates the refusal by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to register the name of the Asian-American rock band, The Slants. It could also affect the decision by the agency to cancel the trademarks of the National Football League's Washington Redskins.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 22 2015,14:42

(Malcolm @ Dec. 22 2015,16:06)
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< Dance rock band > may salvage Redskins trademark.
QUOTE
The decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington, D.C., vacates the refusal by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to register the name of the Asian-American rock band, The Slants. It could also affect the decision by the agency to cancel the trademarks of the National Football League's Washington Redskins.

Wait?  Freedom of speech won?

The Hell.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 22 2015,16:19
I'm in my cash league ff championship.  My RB choices are James White, Ivory, Mathews, Riddick, and maybe Joique Bell or Bilal Powell.  Thinking not ivory since he's got the Pats.  I want bell because it's the fucking Niners and White.  Also got detroit's D for the same reason.  I'm a bit worried Seattle will fold because the Rams seem to have their number all the time.  But Wilson and Baldwin are too hot to bench.


Posted by Stranger on Dec. 23 2015,06:15
The Pro Bowl selections are such a sham.  

Joe Thomas made his 9th consecutive pro bowl on name alone, yet I've never seen him false start, hold and let our QB's get blindsided more times in my life.

Alex Mack?? really? this dude looked like he was on roller skates all year long.  Every single nose tackle literally had this guy pushed 3 yards into the backfield if it was a run or pass play.

So Cleveland sends two offensive lineman to the Pro Bowl, yet they yielded the worst running game in the league and have let up the second most sacks... Sounds about right.

Then to top it off "Big Play Gary Barnidge" gets an alternate and Travis Kelce gets selected over him?!??  Look at the numbers alone.

Gary: 68rec-930yds-9TD  Travis:  65rec-820-4TD

Looks like Gary had a better year to me, and its not like Travis Kelce is a household name either.  I never even heard of the guy until last year.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 23 2015,13:19
Wow.  That's some weak-ass bullshit.  Barny's the only dude in Cleveland that's been consistent this year.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 23 2015,18:04
< Hah >.
QUOTE
On the heels of Norman's 60-minute slap fest with Odell Beckham in Week 15, Falcons wide receivers Julio Jones and Roddy White openly questioned the Pro Bowler's toughness and attributed his reputation as a "lock-down corner" to Carolina's defensive scheme.
...
"I know Julio is leading right now, receivers wise," Norman said, via ESPN.com. "Roddy, I think, is their fifth receiver coming in behind the tight end and running backs.

"I think he has one reception for a touchdown this year, so we're going to try to hold him out as much as we can."

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 23 2015,19:37
Daily fantasy leagues: now illegal in Illinois.

And Baldwin has a hamstring issue, just in time for Sunday.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 24 2015,09:17
Final ff lineup decision: Ryan Mathews at Washington on Saturday or joique bell playing frisco?  Ryan seems to be the bet for lead back in his committee while bell's got real potential for garbage time.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 24 2015,21:04
< Mack > is getting out of Dodge.
QUOTE
"I will say that winning is really important to me," Mack said Wednesday, per Mary Kay Cabot of The Plain Dealer.


< Looking like > Megatron won't be in Murder-ville next year.

Fucking Baldwin is a game-time decision and I only got one other WR available that's healthy.  Fortunately, they both play in the same set.  But my backup's going against Green Bay.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 24 2015,21:34
Murray just dropped 20 for me in my champ game. Other guy had Amari Cooper and got 0'd
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2015,09:24
< Another > Xmas, another Browns player arrested.

Looks like Doug Baldwin practiced as normal yesterday.  Sweet.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2015,11:00
Here's to career games from Reed and Mathews.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 26 2015,17:39
Well, hell.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 26 2015,19:06

(TheCatt @ Dec. 26 2015,20:39)
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Well, hell.

Fucking hell.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2015,21:23
24.9 from Reed.  Mathews sucked, but at least he got that first quarter score.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 26 2015,21:34
< New PED scandal. >

So the guy who the entire report is based upon has completely recanted and explained why he was making up lies, yet the report is still going out and naming names?

I wonder how much money Tom Brady paid him to name Manning...

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2015,23:18
The source's name is Sly.  Hilarious.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2015,05:05
WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Posted by Troy on Dec. 27 2015,07:41
Go Panthers. Will head to the game around noon. Last one live for a while - unless we stab a guy for Super Bowl tickets out in SF and things go well in the playoffs.

Fuck Jordan Reed - 29 pts against me in the champ game. Need some dudes to step up.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2015,08:22
Jordan Reed rules.  He's on both my fantasy teams. :)
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2015,08:24
Well, I either want the Vikings to win out, and win the division, or die and be the 6th seed.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2015,08:26

(Leisher @ Nov. 29 2015,09:29)
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I'm sorry, I thought we were in a thread where someone was saying Washington had playoff aspirations.

WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2015,08:42

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2015,10:06
Nothing against Carolina, but I want a run-heavy game.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2015,13:13
The Steelers couldn't handle fucking Baltimore?
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2015,15:22

(Malcolm @ Dec. 27 2015,16:13)
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The Steelers couldn't handle fucking Baltimore?

Handful of surprises this weekend.

Here's hoping Packers/Seahawks for 5th seed, NOT Vikings.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 27 2015,15:23
Had to be THAT was the Carolina game I went to, huh? Not that worried, roll on to the Bucs and a bye.

Thanks to the Cardinals D, I'm winning my 12 person league right now. Come on baby, knock on wood. If the Jax offensive could wake up it might not be that close...



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2015,15:34
I'm in the league chumpionship (losers bracket finals).  So far, I'm leading all teams by 20 points.  I'd have more if Ginn hadn't been hurt.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2015,16:26
Tim.  Motherfucking.  Hightower.  May maggots eat out his ass.  I'm behind 0.9 points.  Come on, Seahawks.  Give me another FUCKING POINT.  GET THE FUCKING BALL!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2015,16:30
YES YES YES YES  FUCKING YES.  Nice tackle.  Hawks get the ball with a minute left.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

TOUCH FUCKING DOWN!  Champions, bitches.  Fucking revenge for last year's loss to boot.

QUOTE
HOMEY CLAUS IS COMING TO TOWN
QB Russell Wilson, Sea QB 23.5
RB Ryan Mathews, Phi RB 7.8
RB James White, NE RB 9.2
WR Antonio Brown, Pit WR 6.1
WR Doug Baldwin, Sea WR  17.8
TE Gary Barnidge, Cle TE 4.7
FLEX Jordan Reed, Wsh TE  24.9
D/ST Lions D/ST D/ST 6
K Cairo Santos, KC K 6

106

The Lurkers
QB Cam Newton, Car QB 14.3
RB Tim Hightower, NO RB 28.9
RB Denard Robinson, Jax RB 7.1
WR Julio Jones, Atl WR 23.8
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Hou WR 17.7
TE Benjamin Watson, NO TE 0.5
FLEX Martavis Bryant, Pit WR 1
D/ST Chiefs D/ST D/ST 6
K Mason Crosby, GB K 0

99.3

He had a bench full of injured players ... except for Cousins.



Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 27 2015,18:57
Go Vikings, but win next week too, eh?


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2015,20:58
Shit man, did you see the Packers today?  I almost think it'll be an even fight.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2015,05:51

(Malcolm @ Dec. 27 2015,23:58)
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Shit man, did you see the Packers today?  I almost think it'll be an even fight.

Well, GB will be at home, and Minnesota outdoors, so I'm not expecting the same result.

But I'm cheering for the Vikings, I'd much rather have the Packers at FedEx than the Vikings.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2015,07:07

(TheCatt @ Dec. 28 2015,07:51)
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(Malcolm @ Dec. 27 2015,23:58)
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Shit man, did you see the Packers today?  I almost think it'll be an even fight.

Well, GB will be at home, and Minnesota outdoors, so I'm not expecting the same result.

But I'm cheering for the Vikings, I'd much rather have the Packers at FedEx than the Vikings.

Vikes have been playing outdoors all season.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 28 2015,08:37
Wait, wut?  What happened to their dome?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2015,08:50

(TheCatt @ Dec. 28 2015,10:37)
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Wait, wut?  What happened to their dome?

The Metrodome has been a pile of rubble for some time.  The 2014-15 seasons have been played at Screw U of M TCF Bank Stadium.  When US Bank Stadium, aka the Birdkiller, is open next year, they'll be back inside.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2015,13:02
< The Dolphins > -- the model team for "together on the same page."
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 28 2015,19:41
< Colts-Titans might be the most interesting game this weekend. >

< Manziel is in trouble again. >



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2015,22:09

(Leisher @ Dec. 28 2015,21:41)
QUOTE
< Manziel is in trouble again. >

Hah.  So must for upping his stock for a trade.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 29 2015,16:26
The Eagles just fired Chip Kelly.
Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 29 2015,16:44

(TheCatt @ Oct. 04 2015,14:06)
QUOTE
No doubt the Redskins could still blow it, but... when does Chip Kelley get fired?

At least we got that answered.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 29 2015,17:33

(Leisher @ Dec. 28 2015,21:41)
QUOTE
< Colts-Titans might be the most interesting game this weekend. >

< Josh Freeman > to the rescue.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 29 2015,18:46

(Leisher @ Dec. 29 2015,18:26)
QUOTE
The Eagles just fired Chip Kelly.

QUOTE
It's worth wondering if other NFL teams will have interest. The Cleveland Browns hoped to hire Kelly three years ago, and could be looking for a new coach soon.

Chip Kelly and Johnny Alcohol.  Yeah, I could see that.  Shit, go hire Ray Rice back and you'll have the makings of an exceptional team.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 30 2015,08:13

(TheCatt @ Nov. 01 2015,09:17)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Sep. 04 2015,20:50)
QUOTE
I drafted this guy in my keeper league just cuz of stuff like this.  Sure, he may even get cut, but I love the guy.


< And... cut >

< HE'S BACK! >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2015,09:51
If he can stop fucking up on special teams, they might keep him as a specialist back.  If he can stop dropping things, he could earn third-downer status.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 30 2015,10:10
< Old Man Smith > back for 2016.

< Johnny Drinkiel > has a "concussion."  The kind you get from pissing off your coach for the umpteenth time.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 30 2015,10:17
I don't feel like doing Python tutorials yet today, so I'm sending tweets to all my FF players.  Love those dudes and my first (12 man) championship.


Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 31 2015,08:10
< OBJ's ego > speaks.
QUOTE
"I wasn't controlling myself and I ended up hurting my team. It's poor sportsmanship and not something you want to put on film. Everything is under your control and ultimately it's up to you. You can't do that type of stuff."
...
"I don't think anything's going to change except learning from this experience," Beckham said Wednesday, via ESPN.com. "I don't think I'm going to play with any less intensity. I don't think I'm going to play with any less emotion."

So ... you haven't learned anything?

QUOTE
See, I never just did things just to do them, c'mon I mean, what I'm gonna do just all of the sudden just jump up and grind my feet in somebody's couch like it's something to do? Come on, I got a little more sense than that. ...Yeah, I remember grinding my feet into Eddie's couch.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 31 2015,13:57
< Belichick defends Kelly. >

You know, he has a point. Firing a coach after a year or two is really stupid and proves the problem is more upstairs than down. Granted there are a lot of times when you just know, but I don't think this is one of those moments. I think Lurie put too much stock in what the media said as opposed to his coach.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 31 2015,16:06

(Leisher @ Dec. 31 2015,16:57)
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< Belichick defends Kelly. >

You know, he has a point. Firing a coach after a year or two is really stupid and proves the problem is more upstairs than down. Granted there are a lot of times when you just know, but I don't think this is one of those moments. I think Lurie put too much stock in what the media said as opposed to his coach.

He's probably the winningest 3 season coach to be fired.  I could be wrong, I'm not gonna google it.

It takes a good 3-4 years to see what a coach can do, maybe more in certain situations (the f'ed up salary cap and RG3 years of the Redskins).

That being said, I think this year alone showed that he had no business being the owner of personnel decisions.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 01 2016,12:17

(Malcolm @ Dec. 27 2015,18:30)
QUOTE
YES YES YES YES  FUCKING YES.  Nice tackle.  Hawks get the ball with a minute left.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

TOUCH FUCKING DOWN!  Champions, bitches.  Fucking revenge for last year's loss to boot.

QUOTE
HOMEY CLAUS IS COMING TO TOWN
QB Russell Wilson, Sea QB 23.5
RB Ryan Mathews, Phi RB 7.8
RB James White, NE RB 9.2
WR Antonio Brown, Pit WR 6.1
WR Doug Baldwin, Sea WR  17.8
TE Gary Barnidge, Cle TE 4.7
FLEX Jordan Reed, Wsh TE  24.9
D/ST Lions D/ST D/ST 6
K Cairo Santos, KC K 6

106

The Lurkers
QB Cam Newton, Car QB 14.3
RB Tim Hightower, NO RB 28.9
RB Denard Robinson, Jax RB 7.1
WR Julio Jones, Atl WR 23.8
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Hou WR 17.7
TE Benjamin Watson, NO TE 0.5
FLEX Martavis Bryant, Pit WR 1
D/ST Chiefs D/ST D/ST 6
K Mason Crosby, GB K 0

99.3

He had a bench full of injured players ... except for Cousins.

Collected my winnings last night.  Still waiting on the traveling trophy the winner gets to hold on to for a year -- the Al Bundy trophy.

The league commish checked out this year due to shitty trade drama.  Means we need to find one more dude for next year.  We had agreed on one keeper but there's talk of upping it.  I'm going to push for as many as possible so I can keep:

Jordy Nelson ... $3
Jordon Reed ... $3
Kelvin Benjamin ... $3
Gary Barnidge ... $1

... in my $250 auction league for $10 collectively, spend $200 on top tier players, and the remaining $40 on backups.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 01 2016,16:25
< Browns to hold > a ceremony during halftime next game where they actually sacrifice Mike Pettine to Jimmy Haslam.  The latter will then use the former's still beating heart to anoint Manziel in blood.  The hope is that Lucifer will be summoned and accept a few souls in exchange for drafting for the Browns next year and possessing Johnny Douchebag so he takes more shots at the end zone than the bar.  When asked what the fuck he's thinking, Haslam replied, "I can't let Jerry Jones have all the crazy."  Cleveland media reports surprisingly little resistance to the move from the public provided there's a clause in the infernal contract guaranteeing a Super Bowl victory or at least blowout wins against Pittsburgh and Cincy.  There's a vague rumour they're also negotiating for the rights to show Art Modell's eternal suffering in hell on pay per view.


Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,10:10
Demarco celebrates his first rush without Chip by going for a 54-yard score.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,11:40

(Malcolm @ Jan. 03 2016,12:10)
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Demarco celebrates his first rush without Chip by going for a 54-yard score.

Then goes for a total of -5 yards on his next 3 carries.

< In other news >, NFL will charge $550M "relocation fee" per team.  In spite of the Rams bitch-ass owner Stan Kroenke rejecting the stadium plan from his present town, it looks like he might be the odd man out.  Why?

QUOTE
Heading into the January 12 meeting on relocation, no side right now is set to get the 24 votes needed to approve a move. There will need to be a compromise.

It's easier for two teams to build a consensus, and...
QUOTE
The Raiders and Chargers jointly have plans to move to Carson.

Those two teams know for a stone cold fact their fans are dumb enough to road trip to LA a few times each per season.  That's on top of the LA fans.  If the Rams are yanked from St. Louis, those fans and their money aren't going to Chicago, KC, etc.

QUOTE
Whichever team or teams get left out of the L.A. mix, the league is expected to help secure a new home...

HAHAHAHAHA.  Unless they do something insane, like transplant them to Mexico or the UK...

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,12:03
"You've been disciplined TWICE in the past couple months for partying, you've lost the starting job you had fuck knows how many chances to lock down, you're suffering from a "concussion," and you're probably getting traded in the off season.  What are you going to do now?"

"< I'm going to Vegas." >

< Coughlin > done?  Not getting fired, that's a permanent rumour.  But word is he's resigning.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2016,12:41
While driving this morning I heard Rich Eisen say Tomasula is probably out in SF and they're going to make a play for Sean Payton or Chip Kelly. They think Kelly and Cap will be a good match.

Open head coaching jobs:

Indianapolis
Miami
Tennessee
San Francisco
Philadelphia
Cleveland (probably)
San Diego (Maybe)
Detroit (Maybe)
New York Giants (Maybe)
New Orleans (Maybe)

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,12:51
Cleveland's not "probably."  It's a certainty.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,13:05
Grapevine says Chip Kelly is in the running for the Frisco job.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2016,13:19

(Malcolm @ Jan. 03 2016,16:05)
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Grapevine says Chip Kelly is in the running for the Frisco job.

First sentence of my last post...

Steelers are in after the Jets choke. Steelers at Bengals next week.

And the Patriots choke away the #1 seed, unless Denver chokes it away this afternoon.

Meanwhile, the Texans led by former Browns QBs win the AFC South.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,13:23
QUOTE
And the Patriots choke away the #1 seed, unless Denver chokes it away this afternoon.

Phil Rivers is capable of lighting up that secondary.  His WRs ... not so much.  Someone like Ladarius would have to step up in addition to Woodhead and Gates having monumental receiving games.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2016,14:21
< Dexterly Manly makes a joke that would get a white guy fired instantly. >

He is taking a lot of heat for it.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2016,14:28
< The best and worst vacant jobs. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,15:00

(Leisher @ Jan. 03 2016,16:21)
QUOTE
< Dexterly Manly makes a joke that would get a white guy fired instantly. >

He is taking a lot of heat for it.

I'll give it a pass because I got a laugh out of it.  Same pass I'd give to Troy Aikman if he went, "Well of course it's easy for the defense to get the opposing quarterback out of rhythm ... he's white, he doesn't have any."

Let me know how many people are offended by that last one.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2016,15:07
I bet Denver wishes it had a QB.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,15:19
Browns GM is < gone >.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2016,16:42

(TheCatt @ Jan. 03 2016,18:07)
QUOTE
I bet Denver wishes it had a QB.

Cue Manning's music...
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2016,16:52

(Leisher @ Jan. 03 2016,19:42)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Jan. 03 2016,18:07)
QUOTE
I bet Denver wishes it had a QB.

Cue Manning's music...

It's like they were listening to me. :)

Seahawks win... they either visit the Redskins, or Green Bay does.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,17:27
Ah, the great northern grudge match.  Vikes and Pack.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,17:36
Fake punt for 41 yards.  Fuck GB.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 03 2016,18:32
Go Vikings!
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,19:20
Sure, I'll take a div title.  But goddamn, offense would be reassuring.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,20:42
Woohoo.  Fuck Green Bay.  Div champions, biaznatches.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 03 2016,21:27
< 49ers fire Tomsula. >

This feels like someone dumped a girl they were just using after getting dumped by a hot girl.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 04 2016,05:46
Your saying Harbaugh is a dime piece?
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2016,06:27
I mean, I wouldn't fuck him.

However, as a coach, it's clear he knows what the hell he's doing and was jettisoned because he clashed with management.

Tomsula was clearly a company man, but that lack of a spine probably contributed to the results on the field.

You think Belichick kisses management ass?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 04 2016,07:22
QUOTE
You think Belichick kisses management ass?

It's easier to defend your position when your team wins.

Posted by Stranger on Jan. 04 2016,07:25
I'm literally at a loss with my Browns anymore..  I was all in favor of blowing up the Farmer and Pettine.  But what does good old Jimmy do?  He promotes some Lawer/capologist (Sashi Brown) from inside this already toxic organization to Vice president of football operations with a final say on the 53 man roster!!!!  This guy has NO football knowledge, how does he have authority over the players on the team?!

Then he goes on to say that they will hire a coach next and then the coach, the lawer, the owener and HIS WIFE!!! are going to find a GM!!!!!! What the fuck is going on here?!

First off, make no mistake Sashi Brown IS for all intents and purposes the GM and is just a pawn kiss ass to Jimmy.  So Jimmy should have just said FUCK IT, I'M the GM! that's basically what he's doing here.  This new "GM" will be nothing more than the glorified head scout.  He will have no power in this organization.

So my ONLY hope now is that somehow, someway Cleveland finds a head coach with a set of balls to take on this mountain of shit.  But I doubt this will happen, Jimmy doesn't want strong minds, he wants to run things because he paid a BILLION dollars for a team...  

There is full on revolt with Browns fans right now and we thought it couldn't possibly get any worse, but it just does.  

At least one good thing I can say about this is, Johnny will be gone.  That is for certain.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2016,07:38
QUOTE
I'm literally at a loss with my Browns anymore..


I feel for you. I won't lie and say I don't get some enjoyment from their failures, but I do hope you get a winner at some point in your lifetime. I mean, this can't go on forever, right?

It's weird too because every time they blow it up, I get a nervous feeling about it like "oh shit, now they'll get their act together and become good", and yet it doesn't happen. It's been so fascinating to watch as a fan of the game because they find new ways to fail all the time. I know it's got to be heartbreaking as shit though, so for your sake I hope they eventually get their shit straight.

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At least one good thing I can say about this is, Johnny will be gone.  That is for certain.


Are you sure that's for certain? I thought Haslam was a Johnny fan?

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2016,07:44
< Article covering what Stranger discusses in his last post. >

Yeah, that's not impressive stuff.

Why are they hiring a head coach first? That's the opposite of what you're supposed to do!

And Haslam all but says "we're taking a QB with the second pick".

It should be clear to any potential coaches and GMs that they won't have any control over the team.

Posted by Stranger on Jan. 04 2016,07:47
When Jimmy was asked at his press conference were Johnny was at? all he could say was "I don't know"  He clearly sounded frustrated.  Johnny was supposed to be at the facility on Sunday morning for concussion protocol but he never showed, he was supposedly in Vegas.

Then when asked what the future of the QB position was he said "We DO have the second pick in the draft".  Jimmy is a Johnny fan, but I think even he is at his wits end with him by now.  And I think the feeling is mutual, Johnny doesn't wanna be with Cleveland either.  That marriage is over.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2016,07:50
WOOOOOO! Here's to Washington over Packers, Seattle over Minnesota, Washington over Carolina, Seattle over Arizona, Washington over Seattle!
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2016,08:57
< Teams fire head coaches WAY too fast. >

No shit.

< Here's your first mock draft. >



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 04 2016,08:59
QUOTE
I mean, this can't go on forever, right?

< Hah >.

QUOTE
Seattle over Minnesota

Let's go Packers.

QUOTE
I thought Haslam was a Johnny fan?

Ever since he listened to the homeless guy for his draft picks.

QUOTE
That marriage is over.

That implies it began.  Then again it leaves you with McCown, Austin Davis, and whatever other pick Jimmy gets from a hobo to be named later.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2016,09:05
Sorry, Malcolm, was just trying to come up with a way that the Redskins would host a 2nd playoff game :)

QUOTE
"Pretty much everybody is on a one-year contract in this league. I don't know how you build a program in one year," Belichick said. "Chip is a great coach. He'll end up somewhere and he'll do a great job there.

Chip gets hired just because of this statement.  Some owner's going to do it, because Belichick said to.

Chip could have done better, but definitely deserved to be relieved of his GM duties.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2016,09:07
Oh, and for the record, I know Washington was in a weak division with a weak schedule, but Gruden and the GM guy have to get credit for what's gone on.  Cousins leading the NFL in completion %.  5th in QBR, Bottom 3rd in sacks.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2016,09:09

(Leisher @ Jan. 04 2016,11:57)
QUOTE
< Here's your first mock draft. >

Maybe my memory is bad, but I don't remember quite so many offensive linemen being in the 1st round before.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2016,10:00
< Barnwell's 2015 NFL Awards. >

Mainly posting that for Catt due to the part about Cousins.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 04 2016,10:25

(TheCatt @ Jan. 04 2016,10:50)
QUOTE
Washington over Carolina

You will not "LIKE THAT??"
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2016,11:37

(Troy @ Jan. 04 2016,13:25)
QUOTE

(TheCatt @ Jan. 04 2016,10:50)
QUOTE
Washington over Carolina

You will not "LIKE THAT??"

I would love it :)
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2016,11:37

(Leisher @ Jan. 04 2016,13:00)
QUOTE
< Barnwell's 2015 NFL Awards. >

Mainly posting that for Catt due to the part about Cousins.

Yeah, dude sure made himself worth a boatload of $ those past several weeks.  If we pull the trigger, I sure hope he's legit.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2016,13:09
< Coughlin resigns. >
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2016,19:33
< Pagano signs extension. >

Wow. That's shocking.

Maybe Irsay saw the heat teams like Cleveland were taking for switching coaches too often? Maybe he called Harbaugh and Jim told him he can't leave Michigan after only one season?

Weird that Pagano would stay considering he and GM Grigson hate each other and the Colts are working on extending his contract too.

I think Pagano had heat with Irsay too.

This is really odd.



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2016,19:39
< Skins are screwed next year >

But, I get to sell Packers and Steelers tickets next year. :)

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2016,19:49
I was just coming here to post about them playing next year. We'll have to put a friendly wager on that game.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 05 2016,05:57
< Rams, Raiders, and Chargers officially apply to move to LA. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 05 2016,06:45

(Leisher @ Jan. 04 2016,22:49)
QUOTE
I was just coming here to post about them playing next year. We'll have to put a friendly wager on that game.

Sure, give me 14 points :)
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 05 2016,06:55
< 538 says Redskins are worst playoff team, and Packers are favored to win (slightly). >

538 also said that the Redskins would lose to Dallas last week, Philly the week before, Buffalo the week before that, and Chicago the week before that.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 05 2016,09:41
I am blatantly stealing this from Stranger's wife's FB feed:

< Awesome Cleveland Browns commercial. >



Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 05 2016,10:22

(Leisher @ Jan. 05 2016,12:41)
QUOTE
I am blatantly stealing this from Stranger's wife's FB feed:

< Awesome Cleveland Browns commercial. >

OMG Hilarious
Posted by Stranger on Jan. 05 2016,11:05
Not anymore...

< Moneyball is coming to Cleveland!! >

Hell, if ya can't be good at football why not try baseball.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 05 2016,11:54
That's a really interesting hire.

I think it could work out well, but my two concerns about it are:
1. He's a baseball guy. Yes, they're both professional sports team, but the sports are VERY different. He also won't have many contacts in the NFL versus how many I'm sure he had in MLB.
2. People have to listen to him. Football people have to listen to a baseball guy tell them how to do their jobs. Will folks swallow their ego to do that?

Posted by Stranger on Jan. 05 2016,12:11
It is interesting.  Hell at this point what else have they got to lose.  The Browns have tried just about every other thing and nothing has worked.  When they hired Mike Holmgren everyone thought, hey, there's our football and QB genius.  He got us Jake Delhomme, Colt McCoy and Seneca Wallace, you see how that worked out.

So Cleveland is basically all in on this analytics thing,  instead of putting any human in charge of the Browns let a computer run them.  It just might be crazy enough that it works.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2016,18:41

(Leisher @ Jan. 05 2016,07:57)
QUOTE
< Rams, Raiders, and Chargers officially apply to move to LA. >

There can be only two, and I still say St. Louis is left out.

QUOTE
I think it could work out well, but my two concerns about it are:
1. He's a baseball guy. Yes, they're both professional sports team, but the sports are VERY different. He also won't have many contacts in the NFL versus how many I'm sure he had in MLB.
2. People have to listen to him. Football people have to listen to a baseball guy tell them how to do their jobs. Will folks swallow their ego to do that?

1. It's all stats and analysis.
2. Yes, because they're paid to.  If they don't, they're out.  If he starts winning, they will.

The problem I see is...
QUOTE
He got his started[sic] in MLB with the Cleveland Indians in 1996. He worked his way up, eventually becoming the special assistant to the general manager, and was then hired by Billy Beane and the Oakland Athletics in 1999 (he was featured in the Michael Lewis book Moneyball and was portrayed by Jonah Hill in the movie).

In 2004, the Dodgers hired him to be their general manager and after being fired in 2005 took a job with the San Diego Padres. His most recent position was an executive with the New York Mets.

Number of championships: 0.  He's been bounced around by a shitload of teams.  The Dodgers, the guys with the biggest payroll in all of baseball by tens of millions of dollars, didn't want to waste money on this dude.  He's like a less athletic, pale version of Dwayne Bowe who know statistics.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 05 2016,20:12
QUOTE
2. Yes, because they're paid to.  If they don't, they're out.  If he starts winning, they will.


In a perfect world, maybe. However, people fight and feud in professional environments all the time.

QUOTE
Number of championships: 0.  He's been bounced around by a shitload of teams.  The Dodgers, the guys with the biggest payroll in all of baseball by tens of millions of dollars, didn't want to waste money on this dude.  He's like a less athletic, pale version of Dwayne Bowe who know statistics.


Unlike baseball, football has a ton more intangibles like a defensive lineman doing great in a 3-4, but shitty in a 4-3 or vice versa. I'll be curious to see how a team built upon statistics operates in the NFL.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2016,20:19
Math can account for defensive schemes and much more.  The injuries are more of a killer in football.


Posted by Leisher on Jan. 06 2016,05:51
Intangibles. Math can't account for that because those stats aren't tracked.

Joey Bosa, OSU's stellar defensive lineman, had fewer sacks this year. I think it was 12 vs 5. The stats will show a downward trend. However, in reality the QB was sent rolling away from him, run plays went away from him, he was double and triple teamed often, etc.

That's why he's a top 5 NFL draft pick despite his numbers dropping.

Baseball doesn't have that same issue because everything is measured and tracked. It's easier to do there because it's a much simpler and boring game.  

I'm not saying stats can't be used, but I'd be leary about using them as the sole measure, and with the two top people making personnel decisions in Cleveland now being non-football people...

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2016,06:10

(Leisher @ Jan. 06 2016,08:51)
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Joey Bosa, OSU's stellar defensive lineman, had fewer sacks this year. I think it was 12 vs 5. The stats will show a downward trend. However, in reality the QB was sent rolling away from him, run plays went away from him, he was double and triple teamed often, etc.

Those should be additional stats, and if not, someone's stats aren't good enough.  % of time double-teamed, triple-teamed, etc.  % of times plays went towards/away/static him, etc.

QUOTE
Baseball doesn't have that same issue because everything is measured and tracked. It's easier to do there because it's a much simpler and boring game.  

Yeah, and there's not a lot of teamwork in baseball, imho.  It's much simpler.

Posted by Stranger on Jan. 06 2016,06:24
He's being hired for other things besides player acquisitions.  He's there to find "inefficiencies in how the organization operates" and as we know, Cleveland has many.  How they higher coaches, how they practice, how they game plan for opponents will all be analyzed.  

From what I hear on the local radio is that this is just one tool the organization will use to determine any move they make.  All the analytics in the world makes no difference if you don't have a coach that can put the players in the right position to win.  But maybe the analytics can find ways that help the coach find faults in his game.

So the Browns will need a coach that buys into this structure.  A traditional, shorts wearing, whistle blowing old timer coach like Bill Cower or Tom Caughlin wouldn't buy into this scheme. So they will need a progressive open minded, probably younger coach that is into this scheme for it all to work.  

I really think this structure is set up to allow a coach to have some power in this organization because him and the "GM" will be the football guys and Sashi Brown and Paul Depodesto will be the analytics guys.  Even though Sashi will have the final say, everything that I've heard about him is that he is very un-egotistical and will collaborate with others to come to a consensus.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 06 2016,06:26

(TheCatt @ Jan. 06 2016,09:10)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Jan. 06 2016,08:51)
QUOTE
Joey Bosa, OSU's stellar defensive lineman, had fewer sacks this year. I think it was 12 vs 5. The stats will show a downward trend. However, in reality the QB was sent rolling away from him, run plays went away from him, he was double and triple teamed often, etc.

Those should be additional stats, and if not, someone's stats aren't good enough.  % of time double-teamed, triple-teamed, etc.  % of times plays went towards/away/static him, etc.

Things you listed can be tracked, but it's impossible to give stats for game plans to account for players and their skills. It's all going to be really difficult to account for actual double teams versus "Well, we're both standing here, and he's the only rusher..."

How do you create a stat to show that teams spent a season not throwing to Richard Sherman's side of the field intentionally? How do you track game planning to not blitz Big Ben because his QBR skyrockets when he's under pressure? How do you track WRs coming out of their routes to make plays?

The list goes on and on. It's impossible to track intangibles in football.

In baseball you can see the defensive shifts and how a pitcher pitches to a batter, etc. Football's far more complex and makes stat tracking pretty tough.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2016,08:37

(Leisher @ Jan. 06 2016,09:26)
QUOTE
Things you listed can be tracked, but it's impossible to give stats for game plans to account for players and their skills. It's all going to be really difficult to account for actual double teams versus "Well, we're both standing here, and he's the only rusher..."
The list goes on and on. It's impossible to track intangibles in football.

In baseball you can see the defensive shifts and how a pitcher pitches to a batter, etc. Football's far more complex and makes stat tracking pretty tough.

You create more stats.
QUOTE
How do you create a stat to show that teams spent a season not throwing to Richard Sherman's side of the field intentionally? How do you track game planning to not blitz Big Ben because his QBR skyrockets when he's under pressure? How do you track WRs coming out of their routes to make plays?

Again, there are stats for this.  You look at how a given team targets particular receivers, or uses particular formations across other teams.  You look at blitzes against BB or others.

It's more complicated than baseball, but a good model should account for all of this.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2016,10:14
QUOTE
How do you create a stat to show that teams spent a season not throwing to Richard Sherman's side of the field intentionally? How do you track game planning to not blitz Big Ben because his QBR skyrockets when he's under pressure? How do you track WRs coming out of their routes to make plays?

1) Cornerbacks have a stat that tracks the QB rating of those players throwing to their side of the field.
2) You analyze the number of dropbacks, hurries, throws on the run to what side, etc.
3) You can analyze the play being run and see when they improvise routes or run them badly or well.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 06 2016,10:15
I think we just created a multi-million dollar business.

We get tapes for as many seasons as we can, break down every conceivable stat, and then sell those stats to teams.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2016,10:23

(Leisher @ Jan. 06 2016,12:15)
QUOTE
I think we just created a multi-million dollar business.

We get tapes for as many seasons as we can, break down every conceivable stat, and then sell those stats to teams.

You don't need tapes.  You can get these stats, particularly if you're willing to spend cash to buy other's data.  Like I said before though, it's not a guarantee of optimal performance, it's only a useful guide.  Without some instinct to leverage the analytics, you end up as a team that looks good during the regular season but is vulnerable during the playoffs.  In the short term, their predictive power is suspect.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2016,11:30
People already do this, unfortunately, so it's not an opportunity for us.

As for the tapes, you can't use broadcast tapes, you have to use < "All 22" > film

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 06 2016,11:33
< The Rams proposal. >

Just reading that document, it seems like they make a really strong case, but I know they're the long shot.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2016,11:39
QUOTE
According to a study cited by the Rams, St. Louis, which also is home to MLB's Cardinals and the NHL's Blues, ranks 61st out of 64 major cities in recent economic growth and has the lowest population growth of any major U.S. city since 2008.

That was true before the team moved to the cesspool, and they didn't bitch about it when they were winning.

1) The Deadbirds have the second-most world series titles after the Yankees, and their stadium complex in downtown rakes in cash.
2) The Lose haven't ever won a Stanley cup, but they are a virtual lock to make the postseason.
3) The actual city itself is under 1M in population.  But the nearby suburbs jack that figure up considerably.
4) Stan's a dick.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 06 2016,12:49
< Megatron might retire. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2016,14:13

(Leisher @ Jan. 06 2016,14:49)
QUOTE
< Megatron might retire. >

Joining Barry Sanders in the "Hell, no" club?
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 06 2016,20:54
< Bucs fire Lovie Smith. >

This is kind of shocking. Based on the comments in the article the players seem pissed.

< LeBron dumps Manziel. >
<
Sean Payton says he's staying. >

So expect him to be elsewhere by the end of the week?



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 07 2016,09:51
< Another day, another Manziel is an idiot story. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2016,09:55
< D-Jax > takes a few shots at Chip Kelly.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2016,12:53
< HGH thing > still low key.
Posted by Troy on Jan. 08 2016,13:42
If an NFL player had a major injury, they are using HGH to recover. Maybe it's not that big news because everyone just assumes it - I know I do now.

I lost an insane amount of leg muscle in my left quad after the ACL tear. Like 2/3 in comparison or more to the right. I read that your body releases hormones so it happens automatically and HGH is the only thing out there to not make it so drastic.

Adrian Peterson was playing again after *8 months!! post surgery(*Malcolm did the math) and had reconstruction Dec 30th of that year. That is fucking insane, and is more of a telltale sign that scripts to Peyton's wife, imo.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2016,14:08
QUOTE
Adrian Peterson was playing again after 6-7 months!!

8 months.

QUOTE
It may take six to nine months to return to full activity after surgery to reconstruct an ACL injury.

< From here >.  I see nothing amiss given the math.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 08 2016,14:11
Utter horseshit. Return to activity != excel as a running back in the NFL


e:it's not that I care - I think they should be allowed to use it to recover, but he was trucking dudes like it never happened. No way that happens naturally.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2016,14:49
I don't know what "full activity" might mean besides "all the shit you used to do."
Posted by Troy on Jan. 08 2016,15:08
From my PT - at least a year to recover to the level you were at - from seeing other people recover on the soccer field, sometimes much longer for non pros.

A soccer team I am a fan of had one of their star players < tear his in January of last year > and he's only just starting to look like himself in recent games. And is sure as hell not trucking people like AD was. Here's an < article > that pretty much says AD had the best recovery of any athlete, ever. It says 9 months, but doesn't really say why or how he did it.

Maybe he's just a unicorn, but it seems much more likely he had a little help, which again, I don't have a huge problem with.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2016,18:56
Some mofos are bionic.  Steve McNair had to get shot before his body gave out.  Pro athletes can spend a shitload of cash doing nothing but recovery and rehab eight hours a day.


Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,10:03
< Coughlin in Philly >?

< Adam Gase > lands Miami job.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,15:48
Nobody from the AFC South belonged in the playoffs.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,16:25
Or NFC East.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2016,16:35
Browns: This is why we got rid of Hoyer.
Eagles: This is why we... oh, wait...

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,19:05
After Gay's exceedingly gay TD dance, the score is recalled but the unsportsmanlike penalty remains.  Then Cincy gives it up to Bryant.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,19:26
Complete pass or not (they're reviewing it now), that's the catch of the year.

And yeah, Gay has a habit of excessive celebration penalties.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,19:54
QUOTE
Complete pass or not (they're reviewing it now), that's the catch of the year.

I'll still take Barny's on the between the knees grab.

Wow.  Big Ben hurt and a HUGE def PI call.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,20:00
Fuck these officials.

Shazier had a TD taken away.

Benefuct or whatever should have been tossed and then he gets to injure Big Ben.

And how has there not been a penalty on the crowd?

"This isn't Cleveland" my ass.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,20:09
I'm going to laugh so hard if the Bengals come back.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,20:34

(Malcolm @ Jan. 09 2016,23:09)
QUOTE
I'm going to laugh so hard if the Bengals come back.

Because you're a dick?

Comebacks happen all the time. I don't understand your joy when other people's teams lose. Is it sour grapes because everything in Minnesota sucks?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,20:36
Me rooting against the team with the most championship wins in sport history?  Entirely out of left field.  I furthermore think every win Cincy gets in the postseason is one more thing they can rub in Cleveland's face.

Another fumble?  This game keeps getting better.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,20:43

(Malcolm @ Jan. 09 2016,23:36)
QUOTE
Me rooting against the team with the most championship wins in sport history?  Entirely out of left field.  I furthermore think every win Cincy gets in the postseason is one more thing they can rub in Cleveland's face.

You might want to recheck those sports history books you've been reading.

And was it this these players who won all those championships?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,20:50
Most Super Bowl rings of any team in the NFL, or do you argue that?

The Bengals are 100% determined to lose on penalties.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,20:54
QUOTE
Most Super Bowl rings of any team in the NFL, or do you argue that?


That's not what you said.

Cincinnati is filled with dirt bags. The team matches the city.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,20:56
For Christ's sake, THE sport's history.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,21:01
Me giving shit to someone openly rooting against my team for no reason? Entirely out of left field.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2016,21:21
Steelers fans.  Winning and still finding reasons to quibble.


Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,21:22
In different news, now that Marvin Lewis is 0-7 in the playoffs, should his job be in jeopardy? Even outside of that record, his team is clearly out of control.

Is Cincinnati loaded enough that they could attract a top level coach? I think so.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2016,21:33

(Malcolm @ Jan. 10 2016,00:21)
QUOTE
Steelers fans.  Winning and still finding reasons to quibble.

So by your logic, if you walk up out of the blue and hit me, if I defend myself I'm the guy who started the fight?

Weird.

I have friends who live in Cincy and they're already starting #firemarvin

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2016,06:17

(Leisher @ Jan. 10 2016,00:33)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 10 2016,00:21)
QUOTE
Steelers fans.  Winning and still finding reasons to quibble.

I have friends who live in Cincy and they're already starting #firemarvin

Why?  Tired of all the success Cleveland's had?
Posted by Troy on Jan. 10 2016,08:36
Go Redskins/Vikings today
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2016,08:50

(TheCatt @ Jan. 10 2016,08:17)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Jan. 10 2016,00:33)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 10 2016,00:21)
QUOTE
Steelers fans.  Winning and still finding reasons to quibble.

I have friends who live in Cincy and they're already starting #firemarvin

Why?  Tired of all the success Cleveland's had?

Success ain't 0 postseason wins.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 10 2016,09:37
I think there's a strong case that Marvin Lewis should be fired, but his staff left intact.

The team performs well on the field, but the locker room is out of control and he's now 0-7 in the playoffs.

Today's games are going to be tough for our forum members' teams. I look for Seattle to put 8 in the box and dare Bridgewater to beat them. The Packers receivers are terrible, but so is Washington's pass D (28th).

Good luck!

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2016,10:38
QUOTE
So by your logic, if you walk up out of the blue and hit me, if I defend myself I'm the guy who started the fight?

Wtf?  I made a comment based on: i) Pittsburgh's inability to put away Cincy because of sputtering offense and (ii)
QUOTE
You know, just to be a dick.

  - Anthony Jeselnik

In retrospect, I should have worked a Heather Graham comment in there to up the ante.  I'd expect less gravity from the supporter of a team that 90% looks like this guy...

... once every season.

< Watt's getting surgery >.

< How cold is it >?

That fucking cold.

< Burfict > is heading towards Suspensionville.

< AJ Green > doesn't know what "professional" means.
QUOTE
"Both guys, they're professional," A.J. Green said, via Cincinnati.com. "They play with their heart on their sleeves. That's the way they play. I would love to have them on my team. I wouldn't want to play against them. I hope we get Pac back. We definitely need him. We've got Vontaze for the next couple years.


First blood in the game, bitches.  3-0.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2016,11:58
We got more sacks than Bilbo's relatives.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2016,12:44

(Malcolm @ Jan. 10 2016,14:58)
QUOTE
We got more sacks than Bilbo's relatives.

And fewer points than the Seahawks.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2016,12:57
If the Vikings win, I hope they take that as a sign that they should STAY outside for their home stadium.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 10 2016,12:58
QUOTE
Because you're a dick?


So I was right.

< Bengals players are blaming Marvin Lewis. >

Don't blow this Vikings. I want to watch Pete Carroll be sent home.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 10 2016,13:41
Fuck

It's OK Seattle - we'll finish that ass in Charlotte

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2016,13:51
Well, that's 1 of 4 things I need to happen for the Skins to host another game :)
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2016,14:35
Safety - Check
Field Goal - Check
Touchdown - Check
PAT - Not yet.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2016,14:45
Stop being retards, Redskins.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2016,16:23
Oh, well.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2016,16:42
Need a defensive TD in there somewhere.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2016,18:40

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 11 2016,06:09
In a move that shocked nobody, < Rex hires Rob. >

< Randall Cobb has no class. > It's one thing to mock an asshole at the top of their game. It's another to kick a player who has struggled to gain credibility and his job.



Posted by Stranger on Jan. 11 2016,06:55
Not gonna lie, but the way the Vikings lost yesterday was just a little bit satisfying to me...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!! FUCK EM!

Posted by Troy on Jan. 11 2016,07:39
I know it's a brutal miss... but is the the MN fanbase totally throwing Blair under the bus for it?

I'm torn on it, he was the only Viking to score points, but it was a damn chip shot.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 11 2016,07:47
Win as a team, lose as a team.

To his credit, AP publicly took the blame for the loss. Walsh has done the same thing, and is apparently universally liked in that locker room.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2016,07:54
QUOTE
Randall Cobb has no class. It's one thing to mock an asshole at the top of their game. It's another to kick a player who has struggled to gain credibility and his job.

Bah.  So it's only ok to ridicule the best?

QUOTE
I'm torn on it, he was the only Viking to score points, but it was a damn chip shot.

He made 3, including 2 40+ yarders.  On the flip side...

Bridgewater ... 17/24 for under 150 yards
AP ... 45 yards on 23 carries
Leading WR was Diggs ... 4 catches for under 25 yards

Blair's about the last dude that needs to catch shit for this.  If AP got stuffed at the goal line on 4 straight carries to end the game or dropped a screen pass while wide open on the opponent's 5, would he be getting this?



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2016,08:08
< This > is having no class.
QUOTE
"Nah, Antonio Brown was not hurt," Jones said. "I know he was faking it. Go back and look at the play. If you go back in slow motion, you tell me Vontaze hit him in the head, or if his shoulder pads barely touched him."

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 11 2016,08:42
Adam Jones is a moron and a piece of shit.

QUOTE
"I think he needs a GRAMMY award for that one."


If Brown was acting he should get an Oscar. Not only did he immediately cause himself to lose consciousness, which is evident in the replay, but he also is able to perfectly fake a concussion and might have to sit the next game. This might be the greatest acting performance in history.

The hit Shazier committed should have received a flag, but wasn't malicious. He wasn't trying to injure anyone.

The hit on Brown was a deliberate attempt to hurt him.

Posted by Stranger on Jan. 11 2016,09:17
I guess Pacman doesn't like the refs or "Jerry" Porter!  LOL

Warning: bad language







Posted by Leisher on Jan. 11 2016,09:30
I saw that last night. He's an absolute idiot. And you'd really have to be if you're that talented and even the Cowboys didn't want you anymore.

The NFL had an official on during Sportscenter who said Porter had every right to be on the field to check on the injured player, which he did.

He was then shoved in the back by Bengals #95 into a group of Bengals and the referee came over, which is when Jones earned his flag.

And did anyone notice all the Bengals coaches on the field at that time?

I also don't understand Jones' rant about Brown faking his injury. Even if he was, it's still an illegal hit. Is Jones so stupid that he thinks flags are only thrown if someone gets hurt?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2016,10:20
< RG3's > note.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 11 2016,13:24
Look on the bright side, Malcolm, more reasons to drink


Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2016,14:21
Eh, when I was born, < this > was my home team.  I'm a free agent fan.  This time around was a wild card game, at least.  It's not like the NFC championship game a few years back when New Orleans killed Favre and his career on that very same field.  The dome's roof had ripped over due to mythical levels of snow.


Posted by Troy on Jan. 11 2016,14:39
what the fuck is a free agent fan
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 11 2016,14:52

(Troy @ Jan. 11 2016,17:39)
QUOTE
what the fuck is a free agent fan

A big, fat pussy.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2016,14:59
Bill Bidwill fucked me over in '87-88 and killed whatever faith or loyalty might have taken root.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2016,15:01

(TheCatt @ Jan. 11 2016,16:52)
QUOTE

(Troy @ Jan. 11 2016,17:39)
QUOTE
what the fuck is a free agent fan

A big, fat pussy.

It means:

1. I can revel in the wins AND
2. NOT feel crushed by the losses.

Works out great.  Hell, I was at the gym when the fourth quarter was going on.  Place was damn near deserted.  Awesome.  I didn't feel low when the kick I didn't witness hooked to the left.  I laughed my ass off.  I'm probably also one of the 1% of the city that doesn't want Blair Walsh burned in effigy.  I had more apprehension watching the stats and final game of my fantasy championship.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2016,07:49
< 3 game > suspension.
QUOTE
The NFL announced Monday that Burfict has been suspended without pay for the first three games of the 2016 regular season for repeated violations of safety-related playing rules.


< Super Bowl > I will be shown on 15-Jan.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2016,08:16
< Marvin Lewis lives on a different planet > in a different solar system.
QUOTE
Both players couldn't be more heartbroken, literally to tears, both of them, about what went on

Yeah, I saw one of them on instagram ranting in a manner that crackheads would consider uppity and overanimated.

QUOTE
Lewis doesn't believe Burfict went too far with his hit.

Every game, all season

"It didn't go over the edge," Lewis said of Burfict's hit. "Unfortunately, he can't have that kind of blow with a guy that's receiving a pass. It didn't go over the edge."
...
I don't think it's over the line, I think it's part of what football is now


QUOTE
Lewis was criticized by some of his own players after the game for allowing the contest to get out of hand, but he argued that "once they go across that line, there's not much I can do from there, unless I go out on the field, which I'm not allowed to."

Fucking wow.  How does he keep his job after this?

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 12 2016,09:47
QUOTE
Fucking wow.  How does he keep his job after this?


Because they look at Cleveland and realize what could go wrong. Remember when Cleveland fired Schottenheimer for playoff failures? Someone else did too...San Diego? Didn't work out for either.

Because they look at Pittsburgh and Baltimore and see stability and success.

Lewis is a good coach, and I don't blame him entirely because he's not the one signing these assholes, but someone in that organization needs to be a leader. If he refuses to do it, fire him.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2016,10:27
< More LA move talk >.
QUOTE
And that plan, according to Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times, is this: The Rams and Chargers would share the Inglewood stadium, which would be the centerpiece of a 298-acre entertainment complex that one unnamed owner has dubbed “NFL Disney World.”

There’s just one minor problem: Chargers owner Dean Spanos wants nothing to do with that compromise.
...
As for the Raiders? They’re probably stuck in Oakland in the short term, as there’s little support among NFL owners for them to move back to Los Angeles. Farmer says they still could explore a move to another city like St. Louis or San Diego or share the San Francisco 49ers’ recently built stadium in Santa Clara, about 40 minutes south of Oakland.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2016,12:45
< Johnny Tradebait > blows off Bernie Kosar.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2016,14:37

(Malcolm @ Jan. 12 2016,12:27)
QUOTE
< More LA move talk >.

< The early winner is... >
QUOTE
The NFL's six-owner committee on Los Angeles opportunities recommended the project headed by the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders to build a $1.7 billion stadium in Carson, California, sources told ESPN, confirming multiple reports.

This doesn't mean shit until the owners vote on it, but it gives the tentative nod to the Raiders + Chargers joint stadium.  I note the one opposing vote came from the KC Chiefs, who stand to benefit most from sponging up ex-Rams fan money.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 12 2016,15:27
IMHO, that's the worst option. LA did not support the Raiders when they were there. Clearly fans of the Rams want them back. And nobody really cares about the Chargers.

Plus, if you go with the Chargers/Rams you already have your conferences aligned perfectly. Having two AFC teams in the same city? One's going to need to move to the NFC, which means someone from the NFC will need to move to the AFC.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 12 2016,15:40
< Update >

Apparently, the Rams to LA alone is out. Raiders/Chargers to Carson received 12 votes, but Rams/TBD in Inglewood received 20 votes.

According to the video there, Spanos (owner of the Chargers) has the political clout to block a move. They're saying the owners will spend the week trying to convince him to dump Mark Davis, who he's tight with, and get on board with the Rams.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 12 2016,18:55
< LA Rams are officially back. >

The Chargers are still weighing their options. Looks like the Raiders are out.

< Dr. Adam Jones is keeping it classy. >

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2016,20:29
Hah.  St. Louis sucks so bad, even the Rams want to leave.  I don't think the Raiders or Chargers will move there.


Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2016,10:23
< Wtf > happened to Chandler Jones?  Looks like he OD'd on pills and shambled his way into a pig pen.  He went to the hospital where he may or may not have been on life support.  He wasn't charged with anything and went back to practice the next day.  Also, since it's the Patriots, somebody has to be lying and covering shit up.
QUOTE
The Foxboro police Chief lied to the Boston Herald and has been in charge of stadium security at Gillette Stadium for 31 years.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2016,11:34
< Lawrence Phillips > finally gets out of jail.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2016,12:25
< Johnny > Fucko is most likely done in Cleveland.

< First-graders > show more class than most of the Twin Cities.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 13 2016,12:34
QUOTE
Wtf happened to Chandler Jones?


Another day another example of the Patriots getting away with something.

QUOTE
Lawrence Phillips finally gets out of jail.


Tom Osbourne's legacy.

QUOTE
Johnny Fucko is most likely done in Cleveland.


The real question is who will be the head coach and starting QB for Cleveland in two years?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2016,12:38
QUOTE
The real question is who will be the head coach and starting QB for Cleveland in two years?

Heh, they haven't been hired or drafted yet.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 13 2016,13:38
< Browns 2016 Season Tickets promotional video. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2016,14:16

(Leisher @ Jan. 13 2016,15:38)
QUOTE
< Browns 2016 Season Tickets promotional video. >

It's still funny with the volume off.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2016,07:56
< NYG > are officially the McAdoo Daddies.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2016,10:35
< Coughlin > not going to Philly.

< 49ers > down to Chip Kelly and Mike Shanahan.

< Lawrence Phillips's > family denies suicide.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2016,11:01

(Malcolm @ Jan. 14 2016,12:35)
QUOTE
< 49ers > down to Chip Kelly and Mike Shanahan.

< Kelly it is >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2016,11:17
< Chandler Jones >.
QUOTE
The report adds: "Mr. Jones was unable to provide us with a plausible or legitimate explanation as to why he had gone to the rear door of our police station."

Foscaldo wrote it was evident that Jones was "desperately seeking our assistance." Jones was not armed, did not have any narcotics on him and managed to be polite and cooperative, the report stated.

"He had certainly not committed any crimes - nor had he violated any laws or town bylaws," Foscaldo wrote.
...
Another report released today states that police were dispatched to Jones’ nearby home. While in an ambulance, Jones remembered he left his keys at his place, the report said. The door’s home was open and the responding officer “noticed the smell of burnt marijuana.

If bud did this to Jones, I need to talk to him and find his source.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 14 2016,12:33

(Malcolm @ Jan. 14 2016,14:01)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 14 2016,12:35)
QUOTE
< 49ers > down to Chip Kelly and Mike Shanahan.

< Kelly it is >.

That desperate, Chip?
Posted by Stranger on Jan. 14 2016,12:48
Personally, I'm very pleased and quite surprised that the Browns were able to get Hue Jackson.  He's a well respected coach with experience that has a good track record with QB's.  Plus he's coached in the division with Cincy and Baltimore so he knows what is expected and what it takes to win there.

I'm not making any claims of greatness but he should be the best coach the Browns have had since their return (that doesn't really say much).  But I'm glad they didn't just jump for some flashy name like Chip Kelly or even a young inexperienced Adam Gase.  Hue is exactly what Cleveland needs in a coach.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2016,12:59
Have fun with a Chief Strategy Officer who's been bounced around MLB like a cheap whore.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2016,13:13

(TheCatt @ Jan. 14 2016,14:33)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 14 2016,14:01)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 14 2016,12:35)
QUOTE
< 49ers > down to Chip Kelly and Mike Shanahan.

< Kelly it is >.

That desperate, Chip?

< He's looking for a new project >.
QUOTE
"I think for Colin Kaepernick's career, it's one of the best things that could have happened for him," Mayock added. "... It's very quarterback-friendly as far as the pass game is concerned. There are a lot of fairly simple reads and I think Kaepernick can pick it up very quickly and I think you'll probably see a very efficient and very effective Colin Kaepernick next year."

Anyone want to take that bet?

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 14 2016,14:25
Prediction: 5-11 49ers next year.  7-9 after that.  6-10, Kelly fired.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2016,15:14
If the Rams stick around in the West, they'd have to beat out Seattle or Arizona to have a serious bid for a wild card.  That's assuming they can overcome the Rams, which they can't.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 14 2016,21:05
QUOTE
Personally, I'm very pleased and quite surprised that the Browns were able to get Hue Jackson.  He's a well respected coach with experience that has a good track record with QB's.  Plus he's coached in the division with Cincy and Baltimore so he knows what is expected and what it takes to win there.

I'm not making any claims of greatness but he should be the best coach the Browns have had since their return (that doesn't really say much).  But I'm glad they didn't just jump for some flashy name like Chip Kelly or even a young inexperienced Adam Gase.  Hue is exactly what Cleveland needs in a coach.


I actually agree, although I enjoyed Cowherd talking about how Goff should become the NFL's first draft dodger.

Hue is a good coach, but he's got a long up hill climb and I'm still not sold on ownership or the front office. The whole team needs to basically be rebuilt and the attitudes of everyone changed.

And yeah, I think Chip will help Cap get some steam again, but who's going to fix their defense?

And I think if Lewis loses in round 1 again next year, he'll be fired in favor of Coughlin.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 15 2016,07:33
< He's milking > that hit for all it was worth.

< Caldwell stays put >.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 15 2016,08:08
Just more proof that Adam Jones is a moron. If anyone sees his apology let me know.

The Steelers will having trouble winning without Brown. Even if he had a bad game, he'll still draw a lot of attention. Throw in Ben's bad arm (if he even starts...he hasn't been practicing) and I think the experts are right that Denver routs them.

If I'm Pittsburgh, I stack the box Sunday. Manning is starting and has a weak arm, has battled injuries, just got back after missing most of the season, and has been turnover prone. It's amazing to say this, but he's the weak link for them on offense. You can force him into bad throws and possibly turnovers if you shut down their running game. Then maybe you get Ben and Brown healthy for KC/NE.

Still, I would have rather missed the playoffs and gotten a higher draft pick than watch an injured team fizzle out in the playoffs.

In your other news, Detroit had to keep him. Who else are they going to hire? Plus, give him another year and see what he does, which will help you justify his firing more if he fails again.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 15 2016,09:41
< Stop me > if you've thought this before but Cris Carter is retarded.
QUOTE
In an appearance on “Mike and Mike in the Morning” Friday, Carter said he does not buy the reports of Jones smoking synthetic marijuana. He believes the alleged freakout was caused by PCP.

Those two aren't the same thing.  They're not even in the same ballpark.  They aren't even in the same league or sport.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 15 2016,09:57
< Raiders to Oakland? > Their colors do match the Spurs...

< Bucs hire Koetter. >

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 15 2016,10:37
You mean San Antonio?
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 15 2016,10:43
Yeah, dumb mistake.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 15 2016,14:20

(Leisher @ Jan. 15 2016,11:08)
QUOTE
Just more proof that Adam Jones is a moron. If anyone sees his apology let me know.

< Apology >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 15 2016,14:25
QUOTE
He deserved a Grammy Award for that.

An Academy award?

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 15 2016,18:43
Terrible apology. You accuse the man of faking an injury and talk about how he didn't even get hit and that's your apology? You make it more about how you're a "man of your word" and not about how you've been shooting your mouth off incorrectly like a tool?
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 16 2016,09:45
St. Louis fans have responded to the move by < publicly burning their merchandise > and < sending bags of shit to Kroenke >.  The banners are also < gone > from the Edward Jones dome.


Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 17 2016,09:45
< Aaron Rodgers bitches about random chance >.

< Clay Matthews > need a tampon.
QUOTE
After a double Hail Mary drive by Aaron Rodgers to tie the game, the Packers lost a bizarre coin flip, then watched Larry Fitzgerald dominate his way to 80 yards in three plays for the winning touchdown.

Count Clay Matthews among the many who think Rodgers should have gotten a chance to match Fitzgerald.

"Let's go college rules. Just put us on the 25 or whatever it is and let us go at it,"

If your defense hadn't let up a 75-yard score followed by a TD to the same receiver, maybe your offense would've gotten a chance.  Try not sucking so hard next time, Clay.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 17 2016,10:08
Stewart: more yards in one run than AP had all game.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 17 2016,10:55
Last sack on Wilson was brutal.  No one's been blindsided that bad since G's MiL moved in.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 17 2016,16:52
Oh well. I wasn't looking forward to getting blown out by New England anyway. Go Denver!

This game was lost when a former Buckeye made a former Wolverine fumble. Figures.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 18 2016,11:32
< Philly gets a new coach >.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 18 2016,11:43
The Eagles and Titans made terrible hires.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 19 2016,07:21
< Titans looking to trade > #1 pick.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 19 2016,09:51
As the article suggests, it's more posturing than anything else.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 19 2016,13:13
< Ex-Steeler > would avoid football given another shot.
QUOTE
"If I could go back, I wouldn't," he said to the Post-Gazette. "I would play baseball. I got drafted by the Cubs in the 14th round, but I didn't play baseball because of my parents. They made me go to school. Don't get me wrong, I love the game of football. But right now, I could still be playing baseball."

Randle El says he has mental limitations to go with his physical issues.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2016,07:28
< Tipsy McStagger > applies for reinstatement.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2016,09:49
< Jawing > prior to Denver-NE game.
QUOTE
When asked if Brady is a crybaby, Smith replied: "That would be an accurate statement. I've never seen any quarterback look to the referee right after he gets sacked more than Brady," the defensive lineman said, per the Colorado Springs Gazette. "Every time he gets sacked he looks at the ref like, 'You see him sack me? Was that supposed to happen? He did it a little hard. Please throw a 15-yard penalty on him. Get him fined.'"
...
things were relatively quiet out of New England until Gronkowski provided his take on social media: Heard their whole team is good at giving low blows

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2016,14:25
Peyton Manning in an interview:
QUOTE
...Tom Brady, he plays the position the way it ought to be played.

Hmm, maybe he is a HGH juicer.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 20 2016,17:23
< Thanks for > Creedbombing, Carolina.
QUOTE
"Hold me now! I'm six feet from the edge and I'm thinking," Jacobs sang Wednesday during his walk onto the practice field, according to The Charlotte Observer. That's a lyric from Creed's 2001 suicide-prevention banger "One Last Breath".

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 21 2016,07:52
< Bills hire chick coach >.  Special teams.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 22 2016,13:11
< Kaep > will be a "nightmare" under Chip.  I guess that could be taken a couple ways.
QUOTE
"I think [Kaepernick] is a good enough passer, but obviously what'll be a nightmare is his ability to run," on defensive coordinator said. "That offense is straight 'Freddy Krueger' when you have a quarterback that can pull the ball and run at any given time."

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,13:30
My prediction: (Currently 14-9, Denver)

Denver's O can't keep it up.  Their pass rush gets tired, and NE wins.  Fuckers.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2016,13:50
Go Broncos!

And Go Panthers! (For Catt and Troy)

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,14:28

(Leisher @ Jan. 24 2016,16:50)
QUOTE
Go Broncos!

And Go Panthers! (For Catt and Troy)

Agreed.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,15:03
It's amazing just how bad Manning is.
Posted by Troy on Jan. 24 2016,15:03

(Leisher @ Jan. 24 2016,16:50)
QUOTE
Go Broncos!

And Go Panthers! (For Catt and Troy)

Woo!!!! Go Panthers!!!
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,15:34
WWWOOOOOOOOO!!!
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2016,15:39
Hooray!

I've got to admit, I'd like to see Peyton leave a winner, so I'll pull for him. However, if the Panthers win out, I'm ok with that too.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,15:48

(Leisher @ Jan. 24 2016,18:39)
QUOTE
Hooray!

I've got to admit, I'd like to see Peyton leave a winner, so I'll pull for him. However, if the Panthers win out, I'm ok with that too.

He had his chance in 2014.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,16:23

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,17:03
OK, what are the little blue thingys in the field?  There's ona t the 32.5 yard line, another at the 45 yard line.  

Along the second (farther) hash marks.  

They had orange ones in the Denver game... I've never noticed those things before.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,17:10
Maybe it's just metallic looking debris.  It moved a yard.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2016,17:11
Probably confetti from the home team coming out on the field.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,17:25

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,17:26

(Malcolm @ Jan. 24 2016,20:11)
QUOTE
Probably confetti from the home team coming out on the field.

Probably, but seemed larger than confetti, also the way it caught the lights it looked like it was a light of some sort, made no sense to me.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2016,17:47

(TheCatt @ Jan. 24 2016,19:25)
QUOTE

Brady's balls got deflated.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2016,18:02

(TheCatt @ Jan. 24 2016,19:26)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 24 2016,20:11)
QUOTE
Probably confetti from the home team coming out on the field.

Probably, but seemed larger than confetti, also the way it caught the lights it looked like it was a light of some sort, made no sense to me.

Saw it close up on Cam's 2nd run.  It's totally confetti.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,18:44
Yep, saw it, too.  

AWESOME FUCKING GAME

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2016,19:14

(Leisher @ Jan. 24 2016,18:39)
QUOTE
Hooray!

I've got to admit, I'd like to see Peyton leave a winner, so I'll pull for him. However, if the Panthers win out, I'm ok with that too.

I would have like to see Arians and Palmer win (I mean, if the Panthers weren't playing).  But I'm two years done with Peyton, he should have left the game already.  He's a shell.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 25 2016,06:21
I'd like to point out that the turning point in the Denver-Pittsburgh game was when a Buckeye (Roby) forced a fumble by a Wolverine (Toussant).

The turning point in the Denver-New England game was when a Buckeye (Roby) picked off a Wolverine (Brady).

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 25 2016,07:36

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 25 2016,10:01
< #tabletgate >

Ha! Either Karma came calling or the Broncos used one of the Patriots' own moves against them.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2016,10:24
< Vince Young > arrested.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 26 2016,07:41
< Best year for each of the NFL teams >

Browns - 1950.

lol

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2016,08:53
< P90X dude > wants a crack at Lacy.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 26 2016,17:24
< Your Pro Bowl Quarterbacks! >

QUOTE
The quarterback position has been especially hard hit. The Seattle Seahawks' Russell Wilson is the only player voted in who remains on the roster. Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton is playing in Super Bowl 50, but the New England Patriots' Tom Brady, the Green Bay Packers' Aaron Rodgers, the Pittsburgh Steelers' Ben Roethlisberger and the Arizona Cardinals' Carson Palmer have all backed out.

Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton, the first alternate, couldn't play because of a thumb injury that caused him to miss the playoffs. The San Diego Chargers' Philip Rivers declined an alternate invitation and the New Orleans Saints' Drew Brees is presumed to have done the same.

That left this collection of quarterbacks for the game: Wilson, the Oakland Raiders' Derek Carr, the New York Giants' Eli Manning, the Buffalo Bills' Tyrod Taylor, the Minnesota Vikings' Teddy Bridgewater and Winston.

Ummm.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 26 2016,22:16
I <3 Derek Carr.

Raiders are my fav non Panthers team.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2016,09:45
< Broncos wearing white. >
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 27 2016,09:54

(Leisher @ Jan. 27 2016,12:45)
QUOTE
< Broncos wearing white. >

Racists.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2016,09:59
< Because fuck NE >.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2016,21:53
< Steelers fan pranks Broncos fan. >
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 28 2016,11:05
< The Golden Team > picked by the Hall of Fame for the 50th Super Bowl.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 29 2016,09:24
< Both end zones painted for Broncos. >

Good googley moogley!

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 29 2016,09:46
< Haslam > just can't quit Boyziel.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 29 2016,11:45
< OJ is > a 300-pound diabetic.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 29 2016,12:56
< Vegas, baby >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 31 2016,09:33
< Here's Johnny >.
QUOTE
Before Johnny Manziel was found "safe and in no danger," police in Texas used a helicopter to help locate the Browns quarterback, who can't seem to stay out of trouble.

Manziel is being investigated by police in Fort Worth and Dallas following a disturbance early Saturday during which he may have assaulted his ex-girlfriend.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 31 2016,17:17
Dear NFL,

You know what the Pro Bowl doesn't need?  Instant replay.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 31 2016,22:35

(TheCatt @ Jan. 31 2016,20:17)
QUOTE
You know what the NFL doesn't need?  The Pro Bowl.

or this
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 01 2016,05:59
< Calvin Johnson is retiring. >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2016,08:01

(Leisher @ Feb. 01 2016,07:59)
QUOTE
< Calvin Johnson is retiring. >

Surprise, surprise.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2016,09:16
< Lacy to drop 30 >.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2016,10:26
< Joseph Randle > arrested again.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 01 2016,10:27

(Malcolm @ Feb. 01 2016,12:16)
QUOTE
< Lacy to drop 30 >.

That run was painful to watch.  I could have finished it better.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2016,11:48
< Aaron Hernandez > still crazy.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2016,15:15
< Wtf, NFL >?
QUOTE
A man (or a woman, or a team of men and women) walked into a room and said, “I’ve got this great idea. We get a bunch of kids to talk about their parents conceiving them, and they sing to the tune of this very hip and popular song by Seal, who is a very relevant star at this point in time. It will cost us a ton of money and require an incredible amount of time and the end result will be something that is totally normal!”

And someone else — or even worse, a team of people — said “Yes. This is an excellent idea.”

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2016,07:39

(Leisher @ Feb. 01 2016,07:59)
QUOTE
< Calvin Johnson is retiring. >

< Nate Burleson > makes baffling statement.
QUOTE
"Nothing's official," Burleson told the Detroit News of the retirement talk. "I'm waiting, and maybe that's the fan in me. Maybe it's like being a fan of Tupac. I don't think he's dead yet. Until you prove that to me, I still think he's living in Cuba."

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 02 2016,09:32
< Joseph Randle is going insane. >
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 02 2016,10:04
< Uhh.. Buh Bye Johnny!! >

QUOTE
"We've been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field. Johnny's continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization," Brown said. "His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time."

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 02 2016,10:06
Congratulations!
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 02 2016,10:10

(Leisher @ Feb. 02 2016,13:06)
QUOTE
Congratulations!

as always, the offseason is the best time of the year to be a Browns fan.  I'm loving my team right now! WOO HOO
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2016,10:13
Fuck that cocksucker.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2016,15:08
< More on Boyziel's future >, or lack thereof.
QUOTE
"I had to get him out of Atlanta. ... I could not sober him up," former Falcons coach Jerry Glanville explained. "I sent him to a city where at 9:00 at night the only thing that's open is Chili Joe's. ... And that's what made Brett Favre make a comeback -- (it) was going to a town that closed down."


Even Texas wants nothing to do with him.
QUOTE
Manziel's image is so damaged in league circles, however, that he might have to show contrition and spend another offseason at a rehabilitation clinic to attract an offer.

"I'm not sure either of those (Texas) teams is actually interested in Manziel, mainly because of his off-the-field behavior," NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport said Tuesday. "If he cleans it up, I think they could be. But at this point, I would not expect interest from either of those teams for Manziel in his current state."

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 03 2016,06:19
< Broncos practice squad player gets sent home after prostitution sting. >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 03 2016,08:28
< Peyton to the Rams? >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2016,08:38

(Leisher @ Feb. 03 2016,10:28)
QUOTE
< Peyton to the Rams? >

So they go from no franchise QB to ... no franchise QB?
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2016,08:57
< Cleaning up > the homeless.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2016,10:28
< Brandon Marshall >: Manziel needs to go away from the NFL for a bit.

< Rodney Harrison, hypocrite >.
QUOTE
"I would go right at his knees. I would try to hurt him. That might be difference between winning and losing a Super Bowl," Harrison said, per the show's Andrew Perloff.


< Kaep to Jets >?  I don't know if they want to toss Fitzpatrick to the wolves and take a shot on Colin.

< Stabler > had CTE.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 04 2016,07:53

(Malcolm @ Feb. 03 2016,12:28)
QUOTE
< Kaep to Jets >?  I don't know if they want to toss Fitzpatrick to the wolves and take a shot on Colin.

< Maybe not >.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 04 2016,10:30
< Does your NFL team > need a new executive?  Then your interviews have gender quotas.


Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 04 2016,11:56
< Michael Irvin > thinks he can talk sense to Boyziel.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 05 2016,07:41
< Boyziel > gets off the hook because his woman is insane.
QUOTE
Crowley told police Manziel was acting as if he were on drugs. The report states Crowley "became increasingly uncooperative" as they continued their investigation that night and "did not want officers to photograph her or any of her injuries." She declined to file a report, and officers were unable to locate Manziel.

Several sections of the police report were redacted.

Fort Worth Police Sgt. Steve Enright told NFL Media on Thursday that "no offense occurred in Fort Worth's jurisdiction." The Dallas Police Dept. released a statement announcing they have closed their investigation...

But he needs a new agent.
QUOTE
Manziel's agent, Erik Burkhardt, released a statement Friday stating that he has parted ways with the QB.

I hear Drew Rosenhaus is always looking for clients.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 05 2016,10:50
< No Cowboys for Johnny >.  < Even his dad is worried >.

In other news, < professional liar and impotent figurehead Roger Gooddell > says he'd "encourage" his hypothetical, non-existent son play football.  I wonder what < Joe Montana > would say.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 05 2016,13:15
< Two strikes proposal >.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 05 2016,13:55

(Malcolm @ Feb. 05 2016,16:15)
QUOTE
< Two strikes proposal >.

On the surface, I don't think it's a horrible rule.

In reality though, you get a PF just for touching the wrong QB or blowing air on a WR trying to catch a pass...

Posted by Troy on Feb. 05 2016,14:01
Been insane with moving into and out of temporary housing and into our apartment. Getting settled at work. Getting utilities hooked up (the internet is fucked until Monday).

But I hear there might be a game this weekend? I'll try to watch it if I can.

e: "Super Bowl City" in downtown SF has sucked balls. I walked around it on Monday, and it was mostly people in Raiders/49ers gear walking around gawking at PR people selling things.

Then later in the week i've had to go to nearby sales meetings. Which means I have to go through Super Bowl City security lines to get there. Which is bullshit.

GO PANTHERS



Posted by Troy on Feb. 05 2016,14:15
Must be hitting peak crowd time down there.

I can hear a preacher on a megaphone telling everyone(including me 16 floors up) why we're going to hell. I think it involves butts.



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 05 2016,15:08
If there is an afterlife, hell is where all the cool people will be going.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 05 2016,19:40

(Malcolm @ Feb. 05 2016,10:41)
QUOTE
< Boyziel > gets off the hook because his woman is insane.
QUOTE
Crowley told police Manziel was acting as if he were on drugs. The report states Crowley "became increasingly uncooperative" as they continued their investigation that night and "did not want officers to photograph her or any of her injuries." She declined to file a report, and officers were unable to locate Manziel.

Several sections of the police report were redacted.

Fort Worth Police Sgt. Steve Enright told NFL Media on Thursday that "no offense occurred in Fort Worth's jurisdiction." The Dallas Police Dept. released a statement announcing they have closed their investigation...

But he needs a new agent.
QUOTE
Manziel's agent, Erik Burkhardt, released a statement Friday stating that he has parted ways with the QB.

I hear Drew Rosenhaus is always looking for clients.

< Changed her mind, again >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 07 2016,16:11
This is the worst first half I've seen from Carolina since they played Atlanta.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 07 2016,18:30
Hey NFL, Here's BILLIONS OF DOLLARs, buy some fucking refs.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 07 2016,19:15

(TheCatt @ Feb. 07 2016,20:30)
QUOTE
Hey NFL, Here's BILLIONS OF DOLLARs, buy some fucking refs.

Carolina's first challenge getting overturned was a huge WTF.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 08 2016,07:35
I'm happy Peyton will go out a winner, and he'd better retire because he has NOTHING left.

However, the officiating was pretty bad. And not Seattle fans whining about no holding call on a 75 yard TD run while their guys were getting away with it all game, but in a "I don't know what a catch is anymore" type of way. And Talib was crazy offsides on that missed FG.

Still, you can't take it away from that Denver defense. They were legit.

< Did the Beast just retire? >

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 08 2016,08:25

(Leisher @ Feb. 08 2016,09:35)
QUOTE
I'm happy Peyton will go out a winner, and he'd better retire because he has NOTHING left.

QUOTE
I'm going to drink a lot of Budweiser tonight, Tracy, I promise you that.

Tool.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 08 2016,09:07
< Reactions > to halftime show.
Posted by Stranger on Feb. 08 2016,09:40
Not gonna lie, this was the best performance of the Super Bowl.  Not since Whitney Houston have I heard the National Anthem sung so well.  When I saw it was Lady Gaga I immediately thought it was going to be a trainwreck, but props to her she sang it well.







Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 08 2016,09:43

(Malcolm @ Feb. 08 2016,12:07)
QUOTE
< Reactions > to halftime show.

Racists/.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 08 2016,10:04

(Malcolm @ Feb. 08 2016,11:25)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Feb. 08 2016,09:35)
QUOTE
I'm happy Peyton will go out a winner, and he'd better retire because he has NOTHING left.

QUOTE
I'm going to drink a lot of Budweiser tonight, Tracy, I promise you that.

Tool.

Are you calling me a tool?

He couldn't retire on camera because it would have taken away from his teammates and he didn't want that.

Say what you want about Peyton, but the guy is a good teammate.

Did anyone else see his brother's face after the late Denver TD sealed the game? How more people aren't making a thing of this, I don't know. His whole family was cheering and smiling and Eli stood there staring at the camera like someone killed his dog.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 08 2016,10:05

(Stranger @ Feb. 08 2016,11:40)
QUOTE
Not gonna lie, this was the best performance of the Super Bowl.  Not since Whitney Houston have I heard the National Anthem sung so well.  When I saw it was Lady Gaga I immediately thought it was going to be a trainwreck, but props to her she sang it well.








I'm of two minds on the performance.

QUOTE
“Beyonce’s Super Bowl Halftime Show was a tribute to Black History,” tweets Eeryn F. Lubicich.

You have idiocy like this.

QUOTE
"I think it was outrageous," Giuliani said on Fox News Monday. "The halftime show I thought was ridiculous anyway. I don't know what the heck it was. A bunch of people bouncing around and all strange things. It was terrible."

Then there are professional assholes like that which force me to side with the former group.



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 08 2016,10:14

(Leisher @ Feb. 08 2016,13:04)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Feb. 08 2016,11:25)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Feb. 08 2016,09:35)
QUOTE
I'm happy Peyton will go out a winner, and he'd better retire because he has NOTHING left.

QUOTE
I'm going to drink a lot of Budweiser tonight, Tracy, I promise you that.

Tool.

Are you calling me a tool?

Pretty sure Malcolm was referencing Peyton's Bud comment.

QUOTE
Did anyone else see his brother's face after the late Denver TD sealed the game? How more people aren't making a thing of this, I don't know. His whole family was cheering and smiling and Eli stood there staring at the camera like someone killed his dog.

Yeah I did, that was HILARIOUS

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 08 2016,10:19
QUOTE
Are you calling me a tool?

If you went on TV to plug Clydesdale piss after winning the Super Bowl, then yes.

QUOTE
Yeah I did, that was HILARIOUS

I could see him thinking, "Motherfucker, the ONLY fucking statistic I had over him."



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 08 2016,10:28
< Shady and the fuzz >.

< Watch Brady > try to summon up some false humility.
QUOTE
New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, who was booed during pregame ceremonies honoring past Super Bowl MVPs, said in a radio interview before the game that he doesn't consider himself one of the game's all-time greatest players at his position.

Asked by host Jim Gray of Westwood One Radio about his place among the game's best, Brady said, "That is a helluva question and I wouldn't put myself in there.

Lying piece of shit.

Posted by Troy on Feb. 08 2016,13:12

(Leisher @ Feb. 08 2016,13:04)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Feb. 08 2016,11:25)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Feb. 08 2016,09:35)
QUOTE
I'm happy Peyton will go out a winner, and he'd better retire because he has NOTHING left.

QUOTE
I'm going to drink a lot of Budweiser tonight, Tracy, I promise you that.

Tool.

Are you calling me a tool?

He couldn't retire on camera because it would have taken away from his teammates and he didn't want that.

Say what you want about Peyton, but the guy is a good teammate.

Did anyone else see his brother's face after the late Denver TD sealed the game? How more people aren't making a thing of this, I don't know. His whole family was cheering and smiling and Eli stood there staring at the camera like someone killed his dog.

Na - Peyton for making a million bucks or whatever by dropping the Budweiser mention.

And yeah - I couldn't tell if Eli was being stoic in a "it's not over until it's 00:00" way, or what the fuck that was about. There are montages all over the internet of his stranger faces, though.



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 08 2016,13:45
< Broncos fan spent too much on tickets and didn't tell his wife. >

< Other people noticed! With video! >


Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 08 2016,14:22
QUOTE
it's not over until it's 00:00 way

No, mathematically it was over.  Carolina could have returned a failed 1- or 2-point attempt for a couple of their own and they're still not pulling out a miracle the way Cam and Denver's D were playing.

Even if you're of the "not until 00:00" club, come the fuck on.  It's 95% likely to be the final nail in your opponent's coffin.  Fuck sportsmanship, fuck composure, fuck professionalism, you fucking scored.  Crack a smile or look remotely excited.  Anything besides the "I couldn't beat the condom clock" Costanza look.



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 08 2016,14:41
Before seeing that video, though, I literally had no idea Cooper Manning existed.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 08 2016,14:51
< This guy isn't wrong about Peyton Manning >  Well, first 3 paragraphs anyway
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 08 2016,15:26
< Details on Maziel's assault of hus girlfriend. >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 08 2016,15:37
QUOTE
This guy isn't wrong about Peyton Manning  Well, first 3 paragraphs anyway

Hah.  I'm not the only one who thought that was toolish.

QUOTE
Details on Maziel's assault of hus girlfriend.

Paging Ryan Leaf...

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 08 2016,15:38
< Miami High School hires Female football coach >

Extra points to anyone who can tell me the relevance of this, without google:
QUOTE
Luther Campbell will take over as the team's assistant head coach.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 08 2016,15:44

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 08 2016,15:45
I wonder if this is going to turn into a reality tv show.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 08 2016,20:25
For the record, Budweiser didn't pay for Manning's comment.

Which makes it worse right? He's a millionaire and he drinks Bud?

Posted by Troy on Feb. 08 2016,21:18
Shoulda said PBR and he could have shilled to the millennial hipster crowd all summer.


Posted by Leisher on Feb. 09 2016,05:48
Bud tweeted that they want to send him 50 cases of beer.

If I ever get a microphone stuck in my face I'm going to say "Jack Daniels" as much as I can.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 09 2016,08:45
< Did Lynch retire when he did to show he's still pissed about the Seahawks throwing instead of running? >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 09 2016,09:39
QUOTE
For the record, Budweiser didn't pay for Manning's comment.

Which makes it worse right? He's a millionaire and he drinks Bud?

Abso-fucking-lutely.

QUOTE
Bud tweeted that they want to send him 50 cases of beer.

If I ever get a microphone stuck in my face I'm going to say "Jack Daniels" as much as I can.

I'm going to plug Remy's Louis XIII.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 09 2016,10:21
< Hah >.  I called this.
QUOTE
“Johnny Manziel, going into what would have been a start late in the season, showed up drunk at practice on a Wednesday. The Browns lied and said he was in the concussion protocol. Let me repeat that: The Browns lied, to try to protect, and I would argue enable, this irresponsible and very troubled young man,” Mike Silver said on the air on NFL Network.

As PFT pointed out at the time, there’s always been something very fishy about Manziel’s Week 17 concussion diagnosis.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 09 2016,12:24
< Texas A&M > still reeling from having Johnny Fuckup.

< Bans > on Scouting Combine invites.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 09 2016,14:05
One source is reporting Boyziel wasn't drunk, he was hungover.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 10 2016,13:17
< NFL player arrested > for drug charges.  Guess what team?
QUOTE
Bryant was in possession of Adderall at the time of his arrest, Ohio Highway Patrol spokesman Craig Cvetan told NFL Media. Police also found marijuana in the car, along with a concealed handgun lacking a permit and a second firearm.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 11 2016,09:56
< Ochocinco >'s golden sprain home remedy.

< Magic > wants Peyton in LA.

< On the rugby guy >.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 11 2016,10:11
QUOTE
Ochocinco's golden sprain home remedy.


What the fuck?

Did R Kelly teach him that?

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 11 2016,10:28
< Burfict > meets with the bot.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 12 2016,10:41
< Forte's on the block >.
Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 13 2016,09:56
< Peyton Manning is a giant douche >


Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 13 2016,10:26

(TheCatt @ Feb. 13 2016,11:56)
QUOTE
< Peyton Manning is a giant douche >

Ah, the days before everyone walked around with a video recording device.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 15 2016,12:06
< TMZ > ponied up $100K to see Ray Rice's boxing moves.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 15 2016,13:32

(TheCatt @ Feb. 13 2016,12:56)
QUOTE
< Peyton Manning is a giant douche >

Seems like he walked into Tennessee with a big head and probably tried to fuck her. Having been rejected, and probably not used to it, he then started slandering her ultimately leading to him shoving his balls in her face.

After that it was all lies to protect his brand.

He never should have mentioned the incident in his book. If he doesn't do that, people aren't talking about it today and he could go about his life without this coming back to haunt him.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 15 2016,13:36

(Leisher @ Feb. 15 2016,16:32)
QUOTE

Seems like he walked into Tennessee with a big head...

Imagine if he did it now.




Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 16 2016,12:43
< DeAngelo Williams > responds to tweet from Patriots fanboi.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 16 2016,15:38
< "... it tolls for thee." >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 16 2016,20:26

(TheCatt @ Feb. 13 2016,12:56)
QUOTE
< Peyton Manning is a giant douche >

Just FYI, there's a REALLY strong possibility that whole article is horseshit.

Apparently, this Shaun King is an asshole who had a grudge against the MSM for how he felt they were treating Cam, so he went after Peyton. That whole article is based upon her lawyers' side of an attempt to not be summarily dismissed.

I guess her story actually changed over the years and initially she said she only saw his ass. That was her official statement. At no point in 7 years after the incident did she ever say he put his cock and balls on her head.

Listen to the Best of the Herd podcast and they break a lot of this down on Monday's episode.

Not saying Manning is perfect, but this seems to be a smear campaign.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 17 2016,10:29
< Commish > of non-profit org got paid $34M.

< And since > Cousins walked away from the negotiating table...

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 17 2016,13:45
I'd be scared of signing Cousins too
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 18 2016,05:52
The franchise tag for Cousins is win-win.

He makes big money next year and if he proves he's legit, will make a ton more. Meanwhile, the Skins can save themselves from a long term, big money contract unless he proves he deserves it.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 18 2016,06:55
Yeah, so far I think that's the way to go.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 18 2016,10:20
< Jared Allen > rides off sans sunset.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 19 2016,11:58
< Heath Miller retires. >

Crazy underrated.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 21 2016,19:31

(Malcolm @ Nov. 03 2015,12:27)
QUOTE
Cowboys cut Joseph Randle.

< Pinched for fifth time >.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 22 2016,12:00
< Keeping up the arrest > < theme >.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 23 2016,08:37
< Boyziel > channels Sheen ... the insane one.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 23 2016,11:30
< Evan Mathis on Chip Kelly >.

< Burfict > still a lying prick.
QUOTE
Added Burfict: "I tried to pull up at the last second, but it was obviously too late -- it's a bang-bang play."

Yep, bang-bang right after you went out of your way 10 yards to line up and clip him.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 25 2016,10:34
< Quoth the T-Bitch >.
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 25 2016,11:14
Normally, I'd agree that he won't even make the roster, but there's the Cleveland wild card in play.

That means there's a chance he'll become a good back just because the football gods enjoy torturing Cleveland.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 26 2016,08:37
< GB don't give a fuck about > Eddy Lacy, the barreling beluga of a RB.

< Rams content > to lose to Arizona and Seattle for the next few years.
QUOTE
"It's not one variable to win in this league. There's a lot of them," Snead said Thursday at the NFL Scouting Combine. "QB's important, but there's a lot of other things that are important, too."

Said the owner whose team hasn't had a real QB in 8 years.  How's that working out?

< Johnny Misdemeanor Boyziel >.
QUOTE
The investigation of the domestic violence assault involving Jonathan Manziel, which occurred on January 30, 2016, has been completed.  Today, a Class A misdemeanor Assault/Domestic Violence case has been referred to the Dallas County District Attorney’s office for presentation to the grand jury.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 26 2016,08:59
QUOTE
GB don't give a fuck about Eddy Lacy, the barreling beluga of a RB.


Weight wasn't an issue for The Bus, but then again, he was actually productive.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 26 2016,09:26

(Leisher @ Feb. 26 2016,10:59)
QUOTE
QUOTE
GB don't give a fuck about Eddy Lacy, the barreling beluga of a RB.


Weight wasn't an issue for The Bus, but then again, he was actually productive.

I bet half the kickers in the NFL run better than Lacy.  Shit, most longsnappers probably do.  I bet I could find a coach somewhere that'll beat him in a foot race.



Posted by Leisher on Feb. 27 2016,12:41
< NFL Network makes a joke at the Browns expense. >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 29 2016,08:31
< Another day, another Johnny Manziel scandal. >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 29 2016,08:31
< Cheater prospers >.

< Eagles double down > on two-time gimp.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 29 2016,08:54

(Leisher @ Feb. 29 2016,11:31)
QUOTE
< Another day, another Johnny Manziel scandal. >

Is that really a scandal?

I mean, what do you think Gronk was doing on that boat?

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 29 2016,08:55

(Malcolm @ Feb. 29 2016,11:31)
QUOTE
< Eagles double down > on two-time gimp.

As a Redskins fan, let me say "Yeehaw!"
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 29 2016,08:56

(TheCatt @ Feb. 29 2016,11:54)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Feb. 29 2016,11:31)
QUOTE
< Another day, another Johnny Manziel scandal. >

Is that really a scandal?

I mean, what do you think Gronk was doing on that boat?

Yes because he's been in rehab and part of dealing with substance abuse is not using said substances.

Gronk is not an alcoholic with the off field issues Johnny's had.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 29 2016,09:25
QUOTE
Gronk is not an alcoholic with the off field issues Johnny's had.

If Gronk is a chem addict, at least he's a functional one.  He's also a Pro Bowler and dude that sets standards for his entire position.  When his lifestyle negatively affects his game, we'll talk.

Posted by Troy on Feb. 29 2016,10:18

(TheCatt @ Feb. 29 2016,11:54)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Feb. 29 2016,11:31)
QUOTE
< Another day, another Johnny Manziel scandal. >

Is that really a scandal?

I mean, what do you think Gronk was doing on that boat?

Smashing poon-tang and then spiking it on the cheap cruise ship rug


e: and yeah, either Gronk has had extremely good, blanket-like management his entire career or somewhere deep down in that meat-head brain of his is a responsible adult that makes good decisions - it's fucking weird to think about.



Posted by Troy on Feb. 29 2016,10:43
< Though his management should have thought about the gambling/NFL thing.... >
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 29 2016,10:44
< Bart Starr > got the fuck hazed out of him in college.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 29 2016,10:45

(Troy @ Feb. 29 2016,12:43)
QUOTE
< Though his management should have thought about the gambling/NFL thing.... >

QUOTE
Considering the league knew about Gronkowski's cruise months before it happened and let it proceed as scheduled, Commissioner Roger Goodell may have a hard time explaining why the New England tight end is deserving of retrospective punishment.

They did, and they informed the commish.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 01 2016,10:38
< Counsins gets Tagged >


Posted by Leisher on Mar. 01 2016,10:54
So did Von Miller.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 01 2016,13:51
Vague rumour: < Old Man Teabagger > is in for another year.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 02 2016,10:46
< Alex Mack is leaving Cleveland. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2016,20:30
< Foster cut >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 04 2016,09:05
< Romo > needs some titanium reinforcement in his skeleton to prevent further injuries.

< Von Miller > and Downtown Tony Brown start offseason training a bit early.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 04 2016,11:29
< Combine questions from the Falcons >.
QUOTE
Do you like men?



Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 06 2016,07:36
< Goodnight, Peyton >
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 07 2016,08:50
< Redskins finally cut RGIII. >

< Tre Mason is an idiot. >

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 07 2016,10:17
< Here's your monthly > "Joseph Randle has been arrested" story.


Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 07 2016,16:36
< DeMarco to the Titans >?


Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 08 2016,09:19
< Megatron > makes it official.

< Gronk and his salary >.

< Deangelo Williams > on Peyton.

< Denver > bailing on Brock?



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 08 2016,15:45
< When non-douchebags > get released.
QUOTE
"I would like him back. I love the kid, I love his heart," he said. "He didn't bitch one time about not getting the ball. He just went and worked every day and tried to get guys better. He loves it here, he loves Teddy. If it can get worked out, I'd like to have him back. But I want to do what's best for Mike Wallace, too.


When < Douchebag Maximus > gets cut.
QUOTE
His salary of $1.169 million is fully guaranteed for 2016, along with $1.004 million of his 2017 salary. But the contract, a copy of which PFT has obtained, contemplates the voiding of the guarantees for a variety of reasons.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 08 2016,19:07

(Malcolm @ Mar. 08 2016,17:45)
QUOTE
When < Douchebag Maximus > gets cut.
QUOTE
His salary of $1.169 million is fully guaranteed for 2016, along with $1.004 million of his 2017 salary. But the contract, a copy of which PFT has obtained, contemplates the voiding of the guarantees for a variety of reasons.

< Already hard at work > training for the future.
QUOTE
Johnny Manziel has basically been partying nonstop since the offseason began, and that includes a night in Las Vegas last Friday with Scott Disick.

Disick, who has three children with ex-girlfriend Kourtney Kardashian and has made regular appearances on reality TV shows, spent a night with Manziel at 1 OAK nightclub.

I'm guessing he's not even going to bother checking his voicemail for a few days.

EDIT: Not nearly as much fun mocking him since he'll no longer be a Brown.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2016,09:37
< Hasselbeck retires >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2016,10:21
< Meet the dude > who'll take Bradford's job when his leg finally falls off below the knee.

< Travis Benjamin > to the Chargers.  Benny and Barney were the only two guys on that offense worth a flying shit last season.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 10 2016,07:02
Stranger, look away...

< Alex Mack to Atlanta. >

< Mitchell Schwartz to the Chiefs. >

< Tashaun Gipson to the Jags. >

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2016,07:08
< Osweiler and Lamar Miller > play for Houston now.

< Forte and the Jets >.

< DeMarco > talks about his vacation last year.
QUOTE
"I feel like I took a year off last year, so I am fresh,'' Murray quipped to the Titans' official website Wednesday.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 10 2016,07:45
< Matt Flynn thinks the Texans are insane. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2016,09:34
< Is your marriage > so shitty that you need a divorce to be employable?
Posted by Stranger on Mar. 10 2016,12:07

(Leisher @ Mar. 10 2016,10:02)
QUOTE
Stranger, look away...

< Alex Mack to Atlanta. >

< Mitchell Schwartz to the Chiefs. >

< Tashaun Gipson to the Jags. >

Ehh.. not really worried about losing two guys from an O-line that ranked 31st in the league rushing and pass blocking.  Mack is so overrated, you can go back a few pages in this thread and read that I was saying that Mack looked like he was on rollerskates all year, constantly being pushed into the backfield.  Besides, everyone knew Mack was gone after this year, that's why they drafted Cam Erving last year. Unfortunately he looked way overmatched when he did get in, so prolly just another first round bust.

And Mitchell Shwartz?? puuuleeez, I always thought he was serviceable at best, not a glaring weakness, but the radio program I listen to every morning had people calling in week after week calling for his head.  Ok pass blocker but couldn't push the line for shit.

Benjamin, yeah looked good for the first 6 games of the year but production fell off considerably after that. So in four years with the team he had a good six game stretch and got paid handsomely.  He's just way to small and gets decleated about once a game.   I don't expect much more out of him in San Diego.

Gipson was the only one I though they should have kept, but he plays free safety and that's kinda the least important position on defense.  Besides he only had one good year in 2014, this year he played pretty poor.  For being a ball hawking pick artist he advertises himself as he only had one this last year, and proceeded to fumble it away right afterwards...

Good riddance to all of em!! actually I wouldn't give a shit if they just let every sorry ass bum go today.  To me nobody is untouchable.  Not a single one of them have helped to win any game.

The bigger disappointment to me is the fact that they didn't get rid of Johhny or Dwayne Bowe at 4:01 yesterday.  These two are the epitome of the losing culture and they were kept around?!!!!!????

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2016,12:10
Ah, Dwayne Bowe.  The offense's answer to Albert Haynesworth.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 10 2016,20:07
< Remember > when Elway got rid of Tebow because he was all leg and no arm?
QUOTE
But I expect the Denver Broncos to go out and get Colin Kaepernick as their top option.

He was too short and too white.  But like Costanza said...

< Heeeeeeyyyyyyyy Stranger >.
QUOTE
And while the club clearly has a need at the position, Jeremiah advocated a veteran, Kaepernick or otherwise, as the smart move for the Browns.

And their interest in Kaepernick could be telling.




Posted by Leisher on Mar. 10 2016,21:52
QUOTE
The bigger disappointment to me is the fact that they didn't get rid of Johhny or Dwayne Bowe at 4:01 yesterday.  These two are the epitome of the losing culture and they were kept around?!!!!!????


My boss is a big Browns fan and he told me they're hoping for the NFL to suspend Manziel. That way they can activate some portion of his contract that will get them back some additional money.

As for Cleveland not drafting Wentz or Goff...I don't blame them really. How many QBs have they wasted first round picks on lately? Maybe they want to grab a vet and then grab Cardale Jones in a later round? I'd be impressed if they went that route.

BUt someone needs to explain to me why people want Cap. I don't get it.

If I'm Fitzpatrick, I call Elway and tell him I want the job. They just won a Super Bowl with a corpse. Fitzpatrick would be a step up.



Posted by Stranger on Mar. 11 2016,06:01
Actually as crazy as it may sound, I wouldn't mind Kaepernik.  He had a bad year last year, but the 49ers were a disaster, everybody bailed on that team.  He wasn't bad with Harbaugh as his coach and maybe just maybe Hue Jackson can get something outta him.  Hell, he made Jason Campbell have a career year and got the best outta Dalton while he was there.

This does free them up to draft a future Qb later in the draft, cause as Leisher said I'm also not in favor of Goff or Wentz as a number 2 overall pick.  

So if it doesn't cost too much I'd say go for it, what the hell do we got to lose? more games??

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2016,07:16
QUOTE
If I'm Fitzpatrick, I call Elway and tell him I want the job. They just won a Super Bowl with a corpse. Fitzpatrick would be a step up.

Seconded.

QUOTE
I wouldn't mind Kaepernik.

Kaep can't throw for shit.  He can't read the options, he takes off too readily, his throws aren't especially accurate.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 11 2016,07:40
Cowherd reported that Brock wouldn't return any calls to the Broncos or his former teammates over the past few weeks. Apparently this was an ego move driven by his benching.

So, you know, complete success will obviously follow...

Posted by Stranger on Mar. 11 2016,08:41
< Finally! Johnny cut!! >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2016,08:58

(Stranger @ Mar. 11 2016,10:41)
QUOTE
< Finally! Johnny cut!! >


Posted by Troy on Mar. 11 2016,10:14

(Stranger @ Mar. 11 2016,09:01)
QUOTE
Actually as crazy as it may sound, I wouldn't mind Kaepernik.

To the thirsty man in the desert, even pee looks refreshing...

But seriously, Kaep was better than many alternatives up until Harbaugh left. Harbaugh was his biggest fan and he definitely lost some mojo with that departure. In the right situation he could be back to being good.

Posted by Stranger on Mar. 11 2016,10:20
QUOTE
To the thirsty man in the desert, even pee looks refreshing...


Yes! I'm so ready to drink some pee after all the poop sandwiches I've been eating for the last two years.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 11 2016,11:13
< Broncos get dirty >.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 14 2016,09:45
< CJ Anderson > to Miami unless Denver matches their offer.

< Martavis Bryant >'s new name is Justin Blackmon, Jr.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 15 2016,11:45
< No shit >.
QUOTE
League officials have long denied proof of a connection between playing in the NFL and the condition called chronic traumatic encephalopathy.

Miller told the congressional panel that brain research on former NFL players "certainly" shows a link between football and CTE. Responding to questions, Miller referenced the work of Boston University neuropathologist Dr. Ann McKee, who has found CTE in the brains of 90 former pro football players.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 15 2016,12:11
< how bad are the Browns? >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 15 2016,12:35

(TheCatt @ Mar. 15 2016,14:11)
QUOTE
< how bad are the Browns? >

QUOTE
Receivers: The star of the group is 30-year-old tight end Gary Barnidge, who spent six seasons as a backup. Career No. 2 receiver Brian Hartline is the No. 1 receiver...

1) I don't care if I don't have any other WRs on my team.  Brian Hartline is still my WR2.

2) I think the first sentence speaks for itself.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 16 2016,10:22

(Malcolm @ Mar. 14 2016,11:45)
QUOTE
< CJ Anderson > to Miami unless Denver matches their offer.

< Matched > so the Dolphins are looking up CJ no K.

< Mike Wallace > slams Minnesota after signing with Baltimore.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 16 2016,12:18
< Bowe cut >.  About fucking time.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 16 2016,17:59
< Because > the Pats needed help at TE.
Posted by Stranger on Mar. 17 2016,07:39
So now I'm starting to see how this new Browns regime and all the analytics are going to work.  If your over 30 and are getting paid any amount of decent money, you're gone!  Karlos Dansby just proves this, he was one of the ONLY guys on that defense that made any plays last year but he's in his mid 30's and getting paid pretty damn good, umm.. buh bye!

As far as free agents they will ONLY pick up young guys coming off their rookie contracts and will NOT be overpaid in any way, shape or form.  Good luck finding any of them, it will land you big names like Rahim Moore and Demario Davis... SMH...

So look out Donte Whitner, and Tremon Williams, Josh McCown and yes Joe Thomas, you are all firmly in the crosshairs of the analytics machine.  I fully anticipate Joe Thomas to be traded before the draft because he's a hall of famer still worth a damn but he's 31.  See ya later Joe, hope you at least acknowledge you played for the Browns at your Hall of Fame speech.  The 30% win percentage while you played here makes me think you'd rather forget never missing a snap for 9 years straight...



Posted by Leisher on Mar. 17 2016,11:33
< Apple takes cheap shot at Browns. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 18 2016,09:21
< Is he for real >?
QUOTE
"It's a blessing. It feels like being drafted all over again," Moore said in a release, via Ohio.com. "I can definitely sense the aura on how this program is trying to change things around. Before I set foot in the premises, I've known the great history of the Cleveland Browns ... I mean they suck right now but...

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 18 2016,10:57
I'd rather have guys thrilled to be on my team than guys who want out.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 19 2016,15:38
< I think Roger qualifies >.

< NYJ > are ready to suck again.

< Hue Jackson > forgets what "proud" means.

< Brilliant >.
QUOTE
Police said the dirt bike Walker was riding had no lights and he was not wearing a helmet. He was also wearing dark clothing at the time of the crash, police said.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2016,14:06
< Browns host burned out twentysomething >.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 20 2016,14:22

(Malcolm @ Mar. 20 2016,17:06)
QUOTE
< Browns host burned out twentysomething >.

That would be poetic.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2016,17:10

(Malcolm @ Feb. 05 2016,09:41)
QUOTE
But he needs a new agent.
QUOTE
Manziel's agent, Erik Burkhardt, released a statement Friday stating that he has parted ways with the QB.

I hear Drew Rosenhaus is always looking for clients.

< Damn, I'm good >.

QUOTE
Johnny Manziel has taken the first step toward getting back to the NFL, hiring super agent Drew Rosenhaus, according to reports on Saturday.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 21 2016,10:19
< Bob Kraft > still wants his draft picks.

< Dick Sherman > talks shit about "suits" and "faces."

Posted by Stranger on Mar. 21 2016,10:34

(TheCatt @ Mar. 20 2016,17:22)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 20 2016,17:06)
QUOTE
< Browns host burned out twentysomething >.

That would be poetic.

Hell, I'd take RG3 at this point.

It wouldn't cost any draft picks to trade for him like Kaep would've and he's be cheap, most likely only a two year deal.

You can still draft one of the rookies and let them learn and if RG3 fails like most of us think then so what, put the rookie in.

Risk vs reward I think is worth it.  Really got nothing to lose except more games. nothing new there



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 21 2016,13:03
< Bryant > is checking into rehab for substance and depression issues.  If you've still got the second thing, you're obviously taking the wrong kinds of first thing.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 22 2016,08:25
< Tone Loc > talks about the new ejection rules.

< Bills are > playing hardball with Tyrod.

< Al Morris > to the Cowboys.  Seems about right.  A mediocre running back on a mediocre team with a mediocre QB, mediocre receiving, and shitty defense.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 22 2016,11:07
< Some new rules >.

< Yahoo kill daily fantasy in NY >.



Posted by Stranger on Mar. 23 2016,08:37
I'm calling it, RG3 will be a Brown by the end of the week..  We'll see how this ends up
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 23 2016,13:01
< Aaron Rodgers > wants to believe.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2016,08:14
< NFL made a deal with the Rams to draft Sam. >
Posted by Stranger on Mar. 24 2016,09:37

(Stranger @ Mar. 23 2016,11:37)
QUOTE
I'm calling it, RG3 will be a Brown by the end of the week..  We'll see how this ends up

< It's official! >

At least he's an upgrade over Josh McCown.  I still think they will and should draft a QB at number 2.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2016,09:40
I honestly think RGIII is a good signing. I was hoping you guys would get Cap because I think he sucks.

< Fisher denies the news of the NFL and Rams making a deal about Sam. >

Posted by Stranger on Mar. 24 2016,09:47
QUOTE
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15058201/cleveland-browns-sign-robert-griffin-iii


I'll tell you what, its never a dull moment to be a Browns. The circus just never leaves Cleveland

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 24 2016,10:15

(Leisher @ Mar. 24 2016,11:40)
QUOTE
I honestly think RGIII is a good signing. I was hoping you guys would get Cap because I think he sucks.

< Fisher denies the news of the NFL and Rams making a deal about Sam. >

LeBron?
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 24 2016,10:37

(Stranger @ Mar. 24 2016,12:37)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Mar. 23 2016,11:37)
QUOTE
I'm calling it, RG3 will be a Brown by the end of the week..  We'll see how this ends up

< It's official! >

At least he's an upgrade over Josh McCown.  I still think they will and should draft a QB at number 2.

Awesome!  Browns and Skins even play this year at FedEx, I believe.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 24 2016,10:40
QUOTE
At least he's an upgrade over Josh McCown.

I'll debate that.  He's an upgrade in that he's under 30.

Posted by Stranger on Mar. 24 2016,11:00

(TheCatt @ Mar. 24 2016,13:37)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Mar. 24 2016,12:37)
QUOTE

(Stranger @ Mar. 23 2016,11:37)
QUOTE
I'm calling it, RG3 will be a Brown by the end of the week..  We'll see how this ends up

< It's official! >

At least he's an upgrade over Josh McCown.  I still think they will and should draft a QB at number 2.

Awesome!  Browns and Skins even play this year at FedEx, I believe.

That is a fact.  Please don't hurt him...
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2016,11:34

(Malcolm @ Mar. 24 2016,13:15)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Mar. 24 2016,11:40)
QUOTE
I honestly think RGIII is a good signing. I was hoping you guys would get Cap because I think he sucks.

< Fisher denies the news of the NFL and Rams making a deal about Sam. >

LeBron?

Shit. I must have mixed up the links or something.

I'm too busy/lazy to fix it...

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 24 2016,11:36

(Stranger @ Mar. 24 2016,14:00)
QUOTE
That is a fact.  Please don't hurt him...

If we had a pass rush...

I want to go to this game.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 24 2016,13:21
< RGIII hurt signing contract! >

:D

Posted by Stranger on Mar. 25 2016,06:27
Spergeon Wynn, Luke and Josh McCown, Colt McCoy, Brandon Weeden, Johnny, and RG3... What do all these QB's have in common?

They all played in the state of Texas and absolutely BLOW!!!

The Browns have not had ANY luck with QB's from Texas, according to this RG3 will surly not work out...

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 25 2016,07:05
First off...
QUOTE
according to this surly RG3 will not work out...

Fixed.  Secondly, I haven't seen RG3 learn to play with his arm yet, and his legs sure as shit aren't in rookie form.  Your offensive line would need to be four of these guys to give him a chance...

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 27 2016,18:15
< Say hello to > fumbledorf.
QUOTE
Gruden is well aware that it's a risk to put all of Washington's apples in the Jones basket.

"We need him to protect the ball a little bit more," Gruden said. "He's a big, strong, powerful back that I think can handle the workload; time will tell on that. We're taking a bit of a gamble here, but based on our professional opinion, we believe he can handle it and be very, very effective at it, toting the rock."


< Ah, Cleveland >.
QUOTE
DePodesta heard NFL team officials making fun of him at the airport following this year's scouting combine in Indianapolis. Brown takes constant, eye-roll worthy barbs about his lack of scouting experience and his preference for Harvard-educated leadership -- neither of which are entirely accurate despite the fact that the team's three highest-ranking executives (Brown, DePodesta and Andrew Berry, the team's vice president of player personnel) have degrees from the school.


< The almost > pitiful saga of T-Bitch.
QUOTE
Richardson said part of his struggles stemmed from migrating from the rigid schedule set under Nick Saban at Alabama to the laxer rules in the NFL.

"It's very easy to get lazy in the NFL -- not having everything scheduled and not having everything like at Alabama where it was so structured," Richardson said. "We had study hall or we had to get a workout in in between classes and had five classes a day. It was just so structured. In the NFL, everything's on your own."

Recap: T-Bitch must be treated like adolescent at all times and told exactly what to do and when.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 27 2016,21:50
< Let the competition begin >.
QUOTE
Gabbert displayed the type of short-throw accuracy and mobility desired for Kelly's ground-first offensive attack. There is zero question that Gabbert outplayed Kaepernick in 2015.

If Kaepernick is not traded this offseason, the two will battle for the starting gig.

It'll be like that time Strawberry Shortcake faced off against Rainbow Brite.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 28 2016,06:45
The Richardson thing is interesting. So many of these athletes are "handled" until they're out of school that all the freedom once they leave has to be quite a system shock. It's amazing more teams don't account for that and do something about it.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 28 2016,09:00
< Los Angeles is being a dick. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 28 2016,10:09

(Leisher @ Mar. 28 2016,11:00)
QUOTE
< Los Angeles is being a dick. >

Whatever.

Number of Super Bowls the Rams won in LA: 0
Number of Super Bowls the Rams won in STL: > 0

Suck it, LA.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 28 2016,10:37
< Arian and the Fins >?
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 29 2016,09:38
< Kaep > going nowhere.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 29 2016,14:08
< Browns gonna suck >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 29 2016,14:13

(TheCatt @ Mar. 29 2016,16:08)
QUOTE
< Browns gonna suck >

No shit.  I heard fish swim and birds fly, too.
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 30 2016,06:25
< Von Miller farts a lot. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 31 2016,15:18
< Damn >.
QUOTE
Broken hand, check.

Herniated disk, check.
...
According to a source, Watt had partially torn left and right abdominals and a partially torn right adductor longus. He also had a fully torn left adductor longus and a fully torn left adductor pectineus, which are two of the three muscles that connect the pelvic bone to the left thigh bone.
...
J.J. Watt won his third NFL Defensive Player of the Year Award in 2015 and vaulted to a level of play only Lawrence Taylor can discuss with authority.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 31 2016,16:24
That cannot be good for your long term health.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2016,10:21
< Lev Bell says he's been cut >.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 02 2016,17:46
< Browns cut Whitner. >

< Broncos trying to work a deal for Kap. >

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 03 2016,11:04

(Leisher @ Apr. 02 2016,19:46)
QUOTE
< Broncos trying to work a deal for Kap. >

I've got no fucking idea what Denver's thinking.  Kaepernick and Dirty Sanchez going for #1?  No one wins at the end of that contest, least of all Denver.



Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 03 2016,11:48

(Malcolm @ Apr. 03 2016,14:04)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Apr. 02 2016,19:46)
QUOTE
< Broncos trying to work a deal for Kap. >

I've got no fucking idea what Denver's thinking.  Kaepernick and Dirty Sanchez going for #1?  No one wins at the end of that contest, least of all Denver.

They're thinking their D is good enough that they just need someone to stand back there and not turn it over all the time.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 03 2016,16:26

(TheCatt @ Apr. 03 2016,13:48)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Apr. 03 2016,14:04)
QUOTE

(Leisher @ Apr. 02 2016,19:46)
QUOTE
< Broncos trying to work a deal for Kap. >

I've got no fucking idea what Denver's thinking.  Kaepernick and Dirty Sanchez going for #1?  No one wins at the end of that contest, least of all Denver.

They're thinking their D is good enough that they just need someone to stand back there and not turn it over all the time.

I get that and stand by my previous question.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 03 2016,17:43
< Vick says > he's got one more season left.  He hasn't elaborated whether it's football or dog-fighting.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 05 2016,07:07
< Kaep staying in SF...for the money. >

This guy is a fucking headcase.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 05 2016,07:15

(Leisher @ Apr. 05 2016,09:07)
QUOTE
< Kaep staying in SF...for the money. >

This guy is a fucking headcase.

Going to enjoy watching Blaine Gabbert take his job.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 05 2016,08:19

(Leisher @ Apr. 05 2016,10:07)
QUOTE
< Kaep staying in SF...for the money. >

This guy is a fucking headcase.

QUOTE
In fact, as we’ve been saying all along, it has always been his best option. Kaepernick’s skill set fits Kelly’s read-option offense to perfection. The two of them should be able to work together to form a dynamic duo that has the potential to wreak havoc on the NFL for years to come.

He left out the sarcasm tag

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 05 2016,10:58
< Steve Smith > destroys Hardy.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 06 2016,10:43
< Patriots fans > giving Philly riffraff a run for title of "biggest asshole fans in all of sports."
QUOTE
A group of New England Patriots fans has sued the NFL in an effort to recover the first-round draft pick that was taken from the team as punishment for the Deflategate scandal.

The seven fans include a season ticket holder from Connecticut who said the scandal has left his 7-year-old daughter disillusioned and a Florida man who said the NFL's sanctions have caused him stress and lost sleep.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 06 2016,11:26
If they win, I'm suing the NFL as a Steelers fan whose team lost in the AFC championship to the Spygate Patriots. Why did the NFL not punish the Patriots more? Why was all the evidence destroyed? Why wasn't it made public if "everyone does it"?
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 06 2016,14:25
< RG3 tells his first lie >.
QUOTE
"I know the history, a little bit, of Cleveland," Griffin said. "And guys sometimes don't want to come here. I wanted to come here. I wanted to be here, and I wanted them to know that."

The only people who want to come to Cleveland are doing it for their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremonies.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 08 2016,11:21
< Who's buying > Manziel flavoured bullshit?
QUOTE
TMZ caught up with Manziel early Friday morning while the former Browns quarterback was leaving a nightclub in Hollywood, and Manziel insisted he has been “staying on track” and not drinking.

“The L.A. party scene is alright,” he said. “I’m not really partying, though. I’m just out with some buddies. No drinking. Hanging with the boys, man.”

Out with my buddies: Jim, Jack, and Jose.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 09 2016,10:55
< Von Miller openly > wants to sabotage the Broncos.
QUOTE
Miller said that if it were up to him the Broncos would have signed Manziel as soon as he became available...

I got $50 that says Johnny misses the first day of practice to visit the dispensaries.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 11 2016,10:25
< Boyziel > says he's rooming with Von, only he isn't.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 11 2016,12:21
I just don't see it. Even without his clear immaturity and substance abuse issues, there were questions about his skills translating to the pro game.

The only reason we still talk about this guy is because the sports media is fascinated with high profile flame outs.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 11 2016,18:54
< Gordon's never coming back >
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 11 2016,19:38

(TheCatt @ Apr. 11 2016,20:54)
QUOTE
< Gordon's never coming back >

Grapevine says Boyziel is hanging with him instead of Von.
QUOTE
Manziel, who went to rehab last year, told TMZ he had been out in West Hollywood five to six nights in a row, and said he doesn't think NFL teams have a problem with his partying.

"I don't think there's anything wrong with partying, bro," Manziel said. "There's a difference between partying and being out of control."

Yeah but you got no idea what it is.

Posted by Stranger on Apr. 12 2016,06:17

(TheCatt @ Apr. 11 2016,21:54)
QUOTE
< Gordon's never coming back >

I'm so done with this clown too.  Malcolm is correct, he IS living with Johnny in LA, not Von.  Him and Johnny were both on Instagram and Twitter yesterday literally laughing at and making fun of this story.  The Browns need to distance themselves from the old problems they had and Josh is just one of them.  Especially if he's hanging with Johnny!! that is throwing shit right into the faces of the organization and the fans.  Time to move on, I hope to God they do the right thing and just release his ass now.  I don't care how much potential the kid has, he's fools gold and will eventually sting your ass again.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 12 2016,07:20
Last time he failed for having alcohol on private plane on a flight from Vegas.  Shit, that could happen accidentally.  This time he got nailed for bud.  You GOT to know that test is coming up and you're on the line for six figures if you stay clean.


Posted by Stranger on Apr. 14 2016,06:12
WOW! HUGE trade for the #1 pick by the LA RAMS!

QUOTE
The Tennessee Titans and Los Angeles Rams agreed to terms on a trade that would see Tennessee trade the number one overall pick, along with their fourth round (113 overall) and sixth round (177 overall) picks this year to the Rams, in exchange for the Rams first round pick (15), two second round (43 and 45) selections and third round (76) pick in 2016; along with the Rams first round pick and third round picks in the 2017 NFL Draft. The Titans now own nine selections in the 2016 Draft, including six of the top 76 picks in the draft.


Hearing its for Carson Wentz. Good lord...



Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 14 2016,06:24
Didn't the Rams just learn a few years ago not to do this (RG3)?
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 14 2016,07:24

(TheCatt @ Apr. 14 2016,08:24)
QUOTE
Didn't the Rams just learn a few years ago not to do this (RG3)?

New city, new "face" of the team.  You know that Kroenke wasn't writing a big-ass check for anyone in St. Louis.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 14 2016,07:55

(Stranger @ Apr. 14 2016,09:12)
QUOTE
WOW! HUGE trade for the #1 pick by the LA RAMS!

QUOTE
The Tennessee Titans and Los Angeles Rams agreed to terms on a trade that would see Tennessee trade the number one overall pick, along with their fourth round (113 overall) and sixth round (177 overall) picks this year to the Rams, in exchange for the Rams first round pick (15), two second round (43 and 45) selections and third round (76) pick in 2016; along with the Rams first round pick and third round picks in the 2017 NFL Draft. The Titans now own nine selections in the 2016 Draft, including six of the top 76 picks in the draft.


Hearing its for Carson Wentz. Good lord...

For Wentz? That doesn't make any sense. Did you hear that from Cleveland radio because ESPN articles and Cowherd have been saying Cleveland wanted Goff, so why move to #1 and pay more when they could just move to #3? If that's from a Cleveland source, I have to think there's some wishful thinking there...maybe?

Here's why I think it's for Goff:
-Wentz's stock has been dropping lately and he was already the #2 QB according to "experts". Lots of questions about him. (He played indoors, he missed a few starts and his team won anyway, he had bad starts and his team won anyway, his team is the Alabama of that division of football so their success isn't about him, etc.)
-Goff is the only QB that everyone agrees is a "start now" guy.
-Goff plays for Cal, the Rams are now in LA. He's home town and they needed to make a splash. Does a guy from North Dakota fill a stadium in LA?
-Everyone knows the Titans weren't taking a QB.
-The "experts" claimed Cleveland's pick was Goff and they pick #2.
-Cleveland made it clear yesterday they would trade the #2 pick, a move them seemed to be strategy after the rumor the day before being that Tennessee was trading the #1 pick. It makes sense. If you think someone is moving ahead of you to take who you want, claim you'll trade. It's a bluff to make it seem like maybe you're not that interested in that player and it drives up the price for that #1 pick because now the #2 is available for competing teams. So you essentially stick it to whoever is about to fuck you out of who you wanted to draft.

Why would the Rams move to #1 for Wentz when they could get him at #3 or later IF Cleveland's guy was Goff like everyone thinks.

Either way, it's a hell of a price to pay. Feels like Draft Day in real life.

Posted by Stranger on Apr. 14 2016,08:23
Yes, I did hear it on Cleveland radio, but they were getting their info from Rams reports so take it for what it is..

But I must say, the national perspective has the Browns linked with Wentz.  Look at all the mock drafts, Kiper, Mcshay and many others I've seen all have the Browns taking Wentz.  So by your reasoning if the Rams think the same way the national media is then why wouldn't they get in front of the Browns and take Wentz?

Now locally, the Cleveland beat writers and radio personalities all say that Hugh Jackson and the Browns like Goff better.  So why does the national perspective differ so much?  

Whatever the Rams decide to do its a good position for the Browns.  The market has been set and if a team wants to get the other QB they will have to pay handsomely.  Its kinda like your neighbors house just sold for $100,000 more than its worth and yours is the only other one up for sale, the price just got driven up.



Posted by Troy on Apr. 14 2016,09:35
Trraaddeee Raaapeeee
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 14 2016,12:49

(Malcolm @ Mar. 20 2016,19:10)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Feb. 05 2016,09:41)
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But he needs a new agent.
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Manziel's agent, Erik Burkhardt, released a statement Friday stating that he has parted ways with the QB.

I hear Drew Rosenhaus is always looking for clients.

< Damn, I'm good >.

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Johnny Manziel has taken the first step toward getting back to the NFL, hiring super agent Drew Rosenhaus, according to reports on Saturday.

< And done >.
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"What I've said to Johnny is that if he gets help and he gets treatment, if he does that within the five days, then I'll continue to represent him," Rosenhaus said. "If he does not do that then, unfortunately, he's going to have to find another agent.... Right now, I believe for him to have a chance, to have a successful life -- forget football for a moment, just to have a successful life -- I think it's imperative that he get help."

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 14 2016,14:03
< ESPN says Rams leaning towards Goff. >
Posted by Troy on Apr. 14 2016,14:27
First game o 2016: Panthers/Broncos at Mile High.

Tempted, but we already said our big football trip was going to be Panthers/Seahawks in Seattle...

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 14 2016,17:56
< Harvin retires >.  I'm still a bit pissed about that 2009 NFC championship game.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 14 2016,18:05
I think the Redskins play literally everyone else's team here, at home, this year.

Steelers, Browns, Panthers, and Vikings.

If anyone wants some overpriced Redskins tickets, lemme know :)



Posted by Leisher on Apr. 15 2016,06:29
Steelers at Redskins for the first Monday Night game. I smell a wager...

< Von Miller is a funny guy. >

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 15 2016,06:42

(Leisher @ Apr. 15 2016,09:29)
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Steelers at Redskins for the first Monday Night game. I smell a wager...

< Von Miller is a funny guy. >

Fuck that.  I'm already up $210 by selling my 2 tickets.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 15 2016,06:45
We'll do a gentlemen's wager.

Pittsburgh Steelers 2016 Schedule

Week 1: @ Washington: Monday, September 12, 7:10 p.m.
Week 2: vs. Bengals: Sunday, September 18, 1:00 p.m.
Week 3: @ Eagles: Sunday September 25, 4:25 p.m.
Week 4: vs. Kansas City: Sunday, October 2, 8:30 p.m.
Week 5: vs. New York Jets: Sunday, October 9, 1:00 p.m.
Week 6: @Miami: Sunday, October 16, 1:00 p.m.
Week 7: vs. New England Patriots: Sunday, October 23, 4:25 p.m.
Week 8: BYE WEEK
Week 9: @ Ravens: Sunday, November 6, 1:00 p.m.
Week 10: vs. Cowboys: Sunday, November 13, 4:25 p.m.
Week 11: BYE WEEK: Sunday, November 20, 1:00 p.m.
Week 12: @ Colts: Thursday, November 24, 8:30 p.m.
Week 13: vs. Giants: Sunday, December 4, 4:25 p.m.
Week 14: @ Bills: Sunday, December 11, 1:00 p.m.
Week 15: @ Bengals: Sunday, December 18, 8:30 p.m.
Week 16: vs. Ravens, Sunday, December 25th: 4:30 p.m.
Week 17: BYE WEEK, Sunday, January 1, 1:00 p.m.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 15 2016,07:35
< It gets better >.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 15 2016,08:54
< Jerry Jones > needs to go on a comedy tour where he just talks in front of an audience of NFL fans about his plans for the Cowboys.
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