Forum: Movies, Television, Books (Does anyone still read?)
Topic: Interstellar
started by: Leisher

Posted by Leisher on May 19 2014,09:15
Nolan's next film. Matthew McConaughey as a rocket scientists. Ok...


Posted by TheCatt on May 19 2014,09:19
Man I hope the movie is better than that trailer.
Posted by Malcolm on May 19 2014,09:45

(TheCatt @ May 19 2014,11:19)
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Man I hope the movie is better than that trailer.

They always put the most boring, worthless parts in the trailers, as we all know...
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2014,11:12
< Catt's good buddy > has an opinion on this movie.
Posted by Vince on Nov. 10 2014,11:33
Coworker said it was one of the best hard science Sci-fi movies he's ever seen.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2014,11:45

(Vince @ Nov. 10 2014,13:33)
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Coworker said it was one of the best hard science Sci-fi movies he's ever seen.


Posted by Vince on Nov. 15 2014,17:40
Saw it.  Very good.  All sciency and stuff.  Actually had a strong human story to it as well/
Posted by Vince on Nov. 15 2014,19:01
Oh, and the robots were very interesting.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 15 2014,19:37
Is it a bummer movie?
Posted by Vince on Nov. 16 2014,06:40
Overall, no.  I don't want to give anything away.  So I think the best way to describe it is to say it's much like his Batman movies were.  Very dark but ultimately satisfying.
Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 16 2014,10:44
Hmmm, the feedback I had heard was that the science was pretty good, but that it wasn't very good as a movie.  That it failed with the human elements of character and dialogue.  You would disagree?
Posted by Vince on Nov. 16 2014,15:46
That's an interesting question.  I would disagree, but I would add that the movie does probably require a certain amount of empathy from the viewer to get that out of it.  Getting to the human elements present a challenge for the movie for a couple of reasons.  First, it's a really big story.  There are a lot of moving parts plot wise.  Also, the difference in time between what's happening in space and what's happening on earth creates some gaps on the earth bound side of things that the viewer needs to fill in.

It's not the kind of movie where a character says (paraphrasing) "I feel sad because X & Y".  It's more of a story where you see the character reacting emotionally and have to put yourself in their place to really feel it and understand where it's coming from.  That might be why some thought the dialog was failing.  They inferred a lot instead of explaining it I guess.

I got the whole lump in the throat thing a couple of times.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 16 2014,16:25

(Malcolm @ Nov. 10 2014,11:45)
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Planning to watch Interstellar with the wife when I get back home.

In the meantime, I noticed a few of the movies with MM in them from the 2011-2012 period are on Netflix. I certainly overlooked them because of shit like "Failure to Launch"

Halfway through "Mud" right now. I like it so far. Next one is some kind of Texas murder movie - "Killer Joe"?



Posted by Vince on Nov. 16 2014,17:05

(Troy @ Nov. 16 2014,18:25)
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Halfway through "Mud" right now. I like it so far. Next one is some kind of Texas murder movie - "Killer Joe"?

I really liked Mud.  I think I described it as a modern day Tom Sawyer without the racist stuff.

*Apologies to Neil Peart

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2014,17:30
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Next one is some kind of Texas murder movie - "Killer Joe"?

< Reviewed >.

Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 17 2014,11:44
Thanks, Vince.  I have added this back to my watch sooner rather than later movie list.
Posted by Vince on Nov. 17 2014,14:06
Now I feel the pressure hoping you like it.

I did talk to the coworker I'd mentioned earlier and he thought it was in his top 5 movies of all time.  Don't know that I'd put it that high, but definitely glad I saw it and saw it at the theater.  A lot of his connection to the story came from his being a father as well.  I think there's a really strong human element.

Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 17 2014,14:42
Meh, it's not like my time is all that valuable.  I won't be putting off making the cure for cancer to watch it.  :p

But I trust your opinion more than that of the prior person I mentioned previously.

Posted by GORDON on Nov. 17 2014,14:43

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A lot of his connection to the story came from his being a father as well.  I think there's a really strong human element.

Actually, I found that aspect of the trailers the most off-putting.  The little kid crying "daddy please don't go" felt deliberately manipulative.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2014,15:10

(GORDON @ Nov. 17 2014,16:43)
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(Vince @ Nov. 17 2014,17:06)
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A lot of his connection to the story came from his being a father as well.  I think there's a really strong human element.

Actually, I found that aspect of the trailers the most off-putting.  The little kid crying "daddy please don't go" felt deliberately manipulative.

Seconded.
Posted by Vince on Nov. 17 2014,15:16

(GORDON @ Nov. 17 2014,16:43)
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(Vince @ Nov. 17 2014,17:06)
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A lot of his connection to the story came from his being a father as well.  I think there's a really strong human element.

Actually, I found that aspect of the trailers the most off-putting.  The little kid crying "daddy please don't go" felt deliberately manipulative.

Not when you see it in context.  Putting it in the trailer might have been but in the film It was a very normal reaction to what was happening.
Posted by thibodeaux on Nov. 17 2014,15:55
Fave line in the movie was when Fantine asked him why didn't he tell his daughter he was leaving to save the world. He says something like, when you're trying to comfort a 10-year-old, telling them the world is in danger isn't the best way to do it.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 03 2015,19:48
This is thinky-scifi more than it is action scifi.  Worth at least one watch... I'll watch it again to pick up some lines I missed the first time around.

Also I predicted the twist way early on.

ALSO.... there was some implication that the greenies were in charge, and it makes me think the author of this movie has read, and was disturbed by, < Fallen Angels, > as much as I was.



Posted by Leisher on May 14 2015,19:06

(TPRJones @ Nov. 16 2014,13:44)
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Hmmm, the feedback I had heard was that the science was pretty good, but that it wasn't very good as a movie.  That it failed with the human elements of character and dialogue.  You would disagree?

As a father to daughters, I agree with the feedback below.

I can't get too into it without major spoilers (How does this movie not have a spoiler thread?), but the father daughter stuff either completely nailed it or completely missed it. It depended on the scene.

That applies to most of the relationships in the film. And while the dialogue might have sucked here and there, they hit some nice themes.

I do have a question related to this, why did Wheadon take shit over Black Widow in Avengers 2, but Nolan didn't take shit for Hathaway's motivations in this movie? They legit shit on a woman's ability to separate logic from emotions (true or not...).

I really enjoyed the movie, although push come to shove, my opinion was far higher until the final 15 or so minutes. It's worth seeing because it's a great concept, acted well, and directed well.

I also think Gordon might be onto something with the Fallen Angels thing. Something bad happened, and people were clearly dumber. I thought the school scene was brilliant.

Oh yeah, the robots are really cool.



Posted by Vince on May 15 2015,03:33

(Leisher @ May 14 2015,21:06)
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I do have a question related to this, why did Wheadon take shit over Black Widow in Avengers 2, but Nolan didn't take shit for Hathaway's motivations in this movie? They legit shit on a woman's ability to separate logic from emotions (true or not...).

My response to this question would be because we're at the point now where most of the outrage and accusing is now organized and planned and no longer organic.  They approach it now with, "Is there strategic value in being outraged at this?  Will we get the sort of coverage we want?"

Wheadon somewhat played into what they were looking for.  Closing down his twit account was a bit against what they wanted (they would have wanted his conciliatory mea culpa there to start with), but his statements in interviews after fit their play book pretty well.

Nolan had already demonstrated what his reaction would have likely been with his second Batman movie.  The left complained about him endorsing the war on terror and he pretty much just shrugged and ignored them and by ignoring them gave them an itty bitty platform with no bullhorn.  Worse than losing their argument with him, he made them irrelevant.

Posted by TPRJones on May 15 2015,06:38

(Vince @ May 15 2015,05:33)
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(Leisher @ May 14 2015,21:06)
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I do have a question related to this, why did Wheadon take shit over Black Widow in Avengers 2, but Nolan didn't take shit for Hathaway's motivations in this movie? They legit shit on a woman's ability to separate logic from emotions (true or not...).

My response to this question would be because we're at the point now where most of the outrage and accusing is now organized and planned and no longer organic.  They approach it now with, "Is there strategic value in being outraged at this?  Will we get the sort of coverage we want?"

I disagree.  I think the reason is as simple as, "You expect rational behavior from people that have clearly demonstrated that they are wildly irrational?"
Posted by Vince on May 15 2015,08:27
People protest in places where they aren't going to change anyone's mind all the time (Planned Parenthood for instance).  The difference is, it isn't a marketing strategy for those people.  For the militant feminists, it's a marketing strategy.  Nolan wasn't going to get them the coverage they wanted because he generally tends to even engage the criticism.  If you can't get your story to last longer than today's 24 hr news cycle, your marketing strategy has failed.

Interstellar came in much lower on the public awareness scale as compared to Avengers 2 as well.  You want to hang on the coat tails where the coat tails are big and long.

Posted by TPRJones on May 15 2015,08:34
Sure, all of that is true.  But I think you are ascribing too much conscious rationality to them.  All the reasons you state why they should prefer to go after Whedon than Nolan are also reasons that - if they are just bumbling around doing whatever pops into their heads - they would be more likely to arbitrarily notice and go after Wheden instead of Nolan.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 16 2016,17:13
I feel like I just watched Damon playing the Anti-Watney.

Enjoyable flick.  Last 1/4 is mostly nonsense, but enjoyable nonsense.

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