Forum: Movies, Television, Books (Does anyone still read?)
Topic: Justice League
started by: Leisher

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 06 2012,09:15
DC Comics and Warner Brothers (their parent corp) took notice of The Avengers, and starting with Superman will begin building its own way towards a Justice League movie.

This should be interesting to watch.

The core characters are:
Superman - New movie on the way
Batman - Apparently, once Dark Knight Rises is out of theaters, they're recast Batman and start over.
Wonder Woman - movie limbo
Green Lantern - considered a flop, but sequel in the works.
Flash - rumors
Aquaman - PLEASE!

They could also add:

Green Arrow - Hawkeye except he wears green and is a massive liberal.

Martian Manhunter - Mars' Superman

Cyborg - Think black Iron Man, except not smart, cool, or rich.

Posted by thibodeaux on Jul. 06 2012,09:32

(Leisher @ Jul. 06 2012,12:15)
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Cyborg - Think black Iron Man, except not smart, cool, or rich.

Racist!
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 06 2012,10:18

(thibodeaux @ Jul. 06 2012,12:32)
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(Leisher @ Jul. 06 2012,12:15)
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Cyborg - Think black Iron Man, except not smart, cool, or rich.

Racist!

I didn't create him! DC Comics is to blame!

True story though, he's a boring ass character that they're trying to put on the main stage with the Justice League because the rest are all a bunch of crackers...except Martian Manhunter, who is green.

So Cyborg was a college football player whose dad was a genius scientist. Things go wrong in an experiment, and somehow his kid becomes Cyborg. He's filled with teen angst, isn't smart like his dad (although his computer side is "smart"), he isn't rich, and he's lame (Marvel has almost exactly the same character, and he's lame too).

DC also recently changed "The Atom", who is a Justice League regular, into an Asian guy.

Off the top of my head, the black guys in DC are:
-Cyborg
-one of the guys that made up the new Firestorm (old one was white
-Black Manta (an originally named Aquaman villain)
-Some electric powered guy whose book just got cancelled
-There's a new Batman protege named Batwing or something

And I think that's it. DC has a RIDICULOUS amount of characters, and they all have 10 different versions of each, and that's all the brothers I can name.

Meanwhile over at Marvel:
-Luke Cage
-Ultimate Spider-Man
-War Machine
-Marvel's Cyborg
-Nick Fury
-Storm
-Black Panther
-the black Captain America youth in the Young Avengers
-Goliath
-the new Goliath
-Misty whatever her last name is...
-about a hundred X-Men and X-Men villains
-That scientist guy on the Thunderbolts
-etc.

They also have a metric fuck ton of Asian characters.

Mervel is kicking DC's ass in diversity.

Posted by thibodeaux on Jul. 06 2012,10:31
Nick Fury is not black. I don't care what anybody says.

And wait...SPIDER MAN? Did you say Spider Man is black? WTF?

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 06 2012,10:53
A lot of this is just from keeping up with the industry. I haven't actually read any of what I'm about to describe, except for a few of the Ultimate X-Men trades. So I apologize if I get some details wrong, but I'm 99% sure this will be pretty accurate.

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Nick Fury is not black. I don't care what anybody says.


Marvel has two universes now.

The 616 is the original Marvel universe, and the one that "counts".

The Ultimate universe is new, and while it features the same characters, the rules there are different. For example, if you die there, you're dead. End of story. Folks who are dead there include: Wolverine, Peter Parker, Professor X, Magneto, Cyclops, etc.

In the Ultimate universe the creators were asked to remake Marvel with new concepts, but the same basic characters and origins. So things are the same, but not. The main villain in the Ultimate universe is Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic from the Fantastic Four).

The Ultimate universe is brutal and very adult. I highly recommend the Ultimates TPB. In the 616, Ant-Man once slapped the Wasp (they were married), and it was a huge deal. That's spousal abuse, and blah, blah, blah. In the Ultimate universe, they re-did that scene only he beat her, sprayed her with bug spray, and then called in his ant hordes to rip her apart while she was still the size of a wasp.

Their Nick Fury is a black guy who was purposely drawn to look like Sam Jackson before the movies even started being made. It was the artist's choice.

Recently, Marvel ran a series in the 616 universe where it was revealed that Nick Fury, the white one, was dying, and he had a lvoe child nobody knew of that was black. During the storyline, the kid, who was simply an Army Ranger, lost the same eye as Nick, and became head of SHIELD, the world's peacekeeping force. Did I mention his name was Marcus Johnson, and for no reason he changed it to Nick Fury? Apparently nepotism is the primary criteria in good security. Did I also mention that his best friend was also a ranger and he becomes Agent Coulston?

The series was a complete flop, but Marvel felt it was necessary to not confuse the new readers coming in due to the movies.

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And wait...SPIDER MAN? Did you say Spider Man is black? WTF?


Again, in the Ultimate universe, Peter Parker dies fighting the Green Goblin. This was after 100+ issues of what many call the best Spider-Man books ever. All are written by Brian Michael Bendis, one of the best writers going, and he's got some racially mixed kids.

When Peter Parker dies, he inspires Miles Morales, a half black, half Hispanic kid to become the new Spider-Man.

But don't worry you big racist, plain old whitebread Peter Parker is still Spider-Man where it counts in the 616.  :D

Posted by thibodeaux on Jul. 06 2012,12:22

(Leisher @ Jul. 06 2012,13:53)
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When Peter Parker dies, he inspires Miles Morales, a half black, half Hispanic kid to become the new Spider-Man.

So, all it takes is "inspiration" to become Spider Man?

These people are insane.

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 06 2012,12:29
I don't know the details, I just know that's the new "Ultimate universe" Spider-Man. The 616 version is still Peter as stated.

I believe I heard Miles got his powers in a similar accident. Not sure on that though...just looked it up, and yes, he was also bitten by a radioactive spider.

In oddly related news, Spidey is about to get a sidekick named Alpha who has a similar accident, but not a spider bite. Also, issue #700 is coming up, and they're claiming something big. The writer says he'll be in hiding for a few months. Maybe they'll pull a "Knightfall" and sideline Spider-Man for a while so Alpha can be the star of the book.

(Knightfall was when Bane broke Batman's back, and Bruce Wayne was not the star of the Batman books while he healed.)

Posted by GORDON on Jul. 07 2012,20:05

(Leisher @ Jul. 06 2012,15:29)
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In oddly related news, Spidey is about to get a sidekick named Alpha who has a similar accident, but not a spider bite.

Perhaps a katydid.  Katydid Man.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 17 2012,13:23
< Ben Affleck to direct? >
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 17 2012,13:36
Robot Chicken does the Justice League.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 27 2012,12:18
< Joseph Gordon Levitt as Batman. >

Because a grown ass man wasn't available?

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 27 2012,13:15
What in the fuck.  Why don't they just cast Clooney again?
Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 28 2012,06:18

(Leisher @ Nov. 27 2012,14:18)
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< Joseph Gordon Levitt as Batman. >

I like JGL, but he seems more like a Robin to me.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 28 2012,06:23

(TPRJones @ Nov. 28 2012,09:18)
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(Leisher @ Nov. 27 2012,14:18)
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< Joseph Gordon Levitt as Batman. >

I like JGL, but he seems more like a Robin to me.

Agreed.  He was perfectly cast for Robin.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 28 2012,07:07
< Levitt's rep claims report is false. >

Although, as the article points out, truths are routinely claimed to be false in Hollywood. Plus, there was a lot of talk after TDKR that he'd take over the cowl.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2012,09:49
< Another rumor: The villain will be Darkseid. >

Duh.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,10:11
Wonder if they'll CG him to death.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2012,10:13
Kinda have to...

With Marvel bringing Thanos to the table, DC/WB had better beat them to theaters or they're going to look like copycats.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,10:16
They already do.  And anyway, Darkseid > Thanos.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2012,10:24
Darkseid is better in the books, yes.

However, who do you trust to pull off the villain better on film, Marvel/Disney or DC/WB?

I'm putting my money on Marvel/Disney.

Hell, they could swerve us, make Thanos the villain in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie, and make Ultron the villain in the next Avengers movie.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,11:17
Marvel has a history of dropping the ball for truly great villains.

- Marvel already fucked up during the Craptastic Four/Silver Surfer thing when doing Galactus
- I've not seen the Avengers yet, because fuck Joss Whedon up the ass with a thousand herpes infected dildos, so I'll skip over my otherwise scathing opinion of it.  I sure as shit didn't hear people telling me about Loki's kick-ass performance, though.
- Venom in Spiderman 3 ... just fucking wow
- the Ironman villains have been boring as shit

DC/WB
- any flick from the most recent Dark Knight trilogy or even any of the recent DC animated cartoons in have more compelling antagonists than any Marvel flick I can think of since the original X-Men

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 03 2012,12:17
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- Marvel already fucked up during the Craptastic Four/Silver Surfer thing when doing Galactus


That wasn't Marvel, that was Fox.

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- I've not seen the Avengers yet, because fuck Joss Whedon up the ass with a thousand herpes infected dildos, so I'll skip over my otherwise scathing opinion of it.  I sure as shit didn't hear people telling me about Loki's kick-ass performance, though.


Actually Loki makes that film because Tom Hiddleston is fucking awesome.

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- Venom in Spiderman 3 ... just fucking wow


That wasn't Marvel, that was Sony.

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- the Ironman villains have been boring as shit


The fact that we're about to have Iron Man 3, and the Mandarin is finally showing up is both puzzling and amazing.

Iron Man isn't known for having an awesome rogue's gallary, and until the movies, he fluctuated back and forth from A list to B list in the books. So Marvel did something right there despite Jebidiah Stane and Whiplash. However, why are we just seeing Iron Man's primary villain?

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any flick from the most recent Dark Knight trilogy


You've giving DC/WB too much credit. The reason those movies "worked" was because DC had very little power in the process. Nolan had all the power, and it's why many have said the movies aren't Batman movies, but movies that happen to have Batman in them.

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even any of the recent DC animated cartoons


Actually, both DC and Marvel have been doing a great job in the animation area lately.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,12:48
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You've giving DC/WB too much credit. The reason those movies "worked" was because DC had very little power in the process. Nolan had all the power, and it's why many have said the movies aren't Batman movies, but movies that happen to have Batman in them.

Sometimes backing off is the smartest thing you can do, particularly when you have more cash than creative brain cells.  I applaud Lucas for selling Star Wars.  Granted, he sold it to a corporation full of greedy tools that will mangle the franchise any way they can to make a profit off it, but he walked away.  I don't trust Marvel to exercise similar restraint.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 03 2012,13:04

(Leisher @ Dec. 03 2012,15:17)
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- the Ironman villains have been boring as shit


The fact that we're about to have Iron Man 3, and the Mandarin is finally showing up is both puzzling and amazing.

Iron Man isn't known for having an awesome rogue's gallary, and until the movies, he fluctuated back and forth from A list to B list in the books. So Marvel did something right there despite Jebidiah Stane and Whiplash. However, why are we just seeing Iron Man's primary villain?

I think it makes sense.  In the movies Iron Man was born because of direct action by Stane to take over the company.  Whiplash is Tony's past, and his father's, returning to fuck with him after Tony's very public, "look how awesome it is to be me/I'm Iron Man."  Finally, after Avengers, Stark has saved the mother fucking world... it is time for his enemies to be taken up a notch, too.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,13:10
Whiplash (from the movie) was a lazy combo of Whiplash (from the comics) and the Crimson Dynamo (kind of a commie Iron Man).  Going with either one of them separately (preferably the Crimson Dynamo) would've been better than making me believe someone who looks like Mickey Rourke still possesses a brain capable of coherent thought.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 03 2012,13:13
I don't know about the comics, so I only know that what the movies have shown is logical.

I was spoilered a bit, though, about the "10 Rings" or whatever they are called, and there was hints about them in the first movie, and in the IM3 trailer Mandarin is wearing 10 rings, so.,..... like I said, it makes sense for his enemies to take it up a notch at this point.

Posted by thibodeaux on Dec. 03 2012,15:57
The problem with villains in the superhero movies is they keep killing them off! In comic books, when does a villain ever die? Do they ever? Seems like the heroes die more than the villains.

Yet every single superhero movie EXCEPT X-Men has the villain lying in a pool of his own blood before the credits roll. At least the X-Men movie people had the brains to realize that if you're gonna have a franchise, you NEED the cool villains. And OK, I guess Loki isn't killed either. Whatever.

That's reason enough not to lead with your signature villain, IMHO.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 03 2012,16:28

(thibodeaux @ Dec. 03 2012,18:57)
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The problem with villains in the superhero movies is they keep killing them off! In comic books, when does a villain ever die? Do they ever? Seems like the heroes die more than the villains.

Yet every single superhero movie EXCEPT X-Men has the villain lying in a pool of his own blood before the credits roll. At least the X-Men movie people had the brains to realize that if you're gonna have a franchise, you NEED the cool villains. And OK, I guess Loki isn't killed either. Whatever.

That's reason enough not to lead with your signature villain, IMHO.

That's what reboots are for.
Posted by thibodeaux on Dec. 03 2012,17:53
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your nether region
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 03 2012,18:00
You just cited X-Men, that led with its primary villain (anti-protagonist?) rather well.  Were I Nolan, I'd have started out with the Joker and stretched that shit to three movies.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 03 2012,18:58

(thibodeaux @ Dec. 03 2012,20:53)
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May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your nether region

Attention all personnel... Corporal Klinger, report to the CO's office at once.
Posted by thibodeaux on Dec. 04 2012,05:48

(Malcolm @ Dec. 03 2012,21:00)
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You just cited X-Men, that led with its primary villain (anti-protagonist?) rather well.  Were I Nolan, I'd have started out with the Joker and stretched that shit to three movies.

Exactly: THEY DIDN"T FUCKING KILL MAGNETO IN THE FIRST FUCKING FLICK.


Of course, in the case of Batman, the Joker killed his own fool self. In Real Life.



Posted by thibodeaux on Dec. 04 2012,05:49

(GORDON @ Dec. 03 2012,21:58)
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(thibodeaux @ Dec. 03 2012,20:53)
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May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your nether region

Attention all personnel... Corporal Klinger, report to the CO's office at once.

And you know where that crazy Arab was from, right?

Right???

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 04 2012,06:25
Well duh-hoy.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 25 2013,10:19
< Team will be 5 members. >

Superman
Wonder Woman
Batman
Green Lantern
Flash

They need to pretend Green Lantern never happened, and literally say that in the opening credits, and cast Ryan Reynolds as The Flash. Then cast Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern.

They also need to keep Christopher Nolan as far away from the movie as possible.

Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 25 2013,10:39
I think Ryan Reynolds would be better as Aquaman.

And then continue to not put Aquaman in the movie.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2013,10:51
There should be some mention of, "Hey, remember that douchebag Green Lantern that got his ass beat by Darkseid?"

"Yeah, the Corps really needs to get a better screening process.  Good thing we got a totally different Lantern that in no way is related to that other, douchey one.



Posted by Leisher on Jan. 25 2013,10:54
Zings!

Reynolds does work as Flash though. The Flash is cocky and makes jokes. He's the class clown.

Hal Jordan's Green Lantern is not the class clown. He's very serious. He's also older and was picked due to his lack of fear. He's constantly butting heads with Batman.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2013,10:55
Yeah, but when push comes to shove, the Flash isn't an asshole.  I don't think Ryan Reynolds can be anything besides an asshole.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 25 2013,11:17
Agreed.  Ryan is good at playing a particular sort of amusing role that has strong asshole tendencies.  And that's all he ever does in every role he's in.  Sometimes that's a good thing.  Not always.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 01 2013,19:17
< Bale says he won't be Batman. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 02 2013,07:15
Good.  No Welsh lisp.  No magically healing broken back and knee cartilage, no on-set tirades at the help.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2014,06:20
Rumor has it that DC is heavily pressing Dwayne Johnson to play Green Lantern (the John Stewart version), Shazam, or Black Adam (he's white). There's an outside show they're working on something completely off the radar too.

I'd rather see him at Marvel playing Luke Cage.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2014,08:01
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Rumor has it that DC is heavily pressing Dwayne Johnson to play Green Lantern (the John Stewart version)

Eh ... maybe.  But Michael Jai White is better.  John Stewart's not an over the top cat.

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Shazam

No.

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Black Adam

I'd be somewhat intrigued to see this.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2014,08:42
Exactly, Rock is too charismatic for John Stewart, although after the aborted Ryan Reynolds GL, perhaps they want to combine Stewart with Jordan's personality.

I think he'd pull of an interesting Shazam, Rock is very likable, and pulling off childlike wonder in the body of an adult with Superman powers is in his range.

Rock's too likable for Black Adam.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2014,08:56
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Rock's too likable for Black Adam.

I think he could turn on the douchebag faucet.

I never liked Shazam/Captain Marvel.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2014,09:01
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I never liked Shazam/Captain Marvel.


I wasn't either until Kingdom Come.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 14 2014,13:44
< Justice League filming with BvS? >
Posted by Leisher on Feb. 10 2014,11:02
< Rock hinting that it's John Stewart. >

Fuck.

As soon as Marvel knew they were making Luke Cage, they should have grabbed Rock.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 10 2014,11:07
I don't think Dwayne can restrain his performance enough for John.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 08 2014,11:47
< WB has no plan for DC properties. >

So basically, they're winging it.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 08 2014,16:37

(Leisher @ Apr. 08 2014,14:47)
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< WB has no plan for DC properties. >

So basically, they're winging it.

Marvel has their shit mapped out til 2028.

< http://screenrant.com/marvel-...._161357 >

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 28 2014,05:57
< Man of Steel 2 isn't Justice League. >

That'll come later and be directed by Zach Snyder.

The most interesting tidbit in that article is that they're working on a 100 Bullets film.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 28 2014,06:09
By the time they get around to getting their universe's shit together all the current actors in all these roles are going to be too old to continue.

They are so stupid.



Posted by Leisher on Apr. 28 2014,06:11
I really don't understand what they're doing.

The iron is hot, strike!

There should be films in development for Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, Justice League, etc., but they seem to be sitting on their hands.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 28 2014,06:24
Hey look, there's a billion dollars on the table.  Let's just leave it there.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 28 2014,12:30
< 9 films in development. >

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DC will apparently go about their business differently than Marvel, however. DC Entertainment president Diane Nelson, appointed to her position three years ago and who reports directly to Tsujihara (the first time the head of DC has reported directly to the Warner Bros. CEO in company history) told the Journal, “It isn't about a single approach to everything. It's the right character matched with the right talent in the right medium."


Now granted, at least three of the films have nothing to do with what a casual fan would call "DC". 100 Bullets, Fables, and Sandman aren't stories that would exist alongside Superman and friends.

However, that attitude represents an ignorance and arrogance that gave us the Green Lantern film, and not one that will give us a DC version of what Marvel is doing.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 28 2014,12:57
If the person coordinating the whole thing isn't a superfan, like Whedon, it'll probably not work.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 28 2014,13:02
Not sure it matters. Based on what she's saying, they're not going for the coordinating thing.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 28 2014,13:06

(GORDON @ Apr. 28 2014,09:24)
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Hey look, there's a billion dollars on the table.  Let's just leave it there.

We'll just return to this, then.

Is the entire board of executives from 1990's Fox TV now running things at DC/WB?  "We don't know if we are going to create a DC universe ala the Marvel universe, all we know for sure is that we'd definitely cancel Firefly again."

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 28 2014,13:26
Look, she didn't get where she got following Marvel's lead.  She had to be bold, she had to show initiative and direction.

And in 3 years someone else will replace her.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 05 2014,07:59
< Darkseid won't be the villain in Justice League. >
Posted by Vince on Aug. 05 2014,08:28
I'm oddly without any enthusiasm for this at this point.  And I really liked Man of Steel.  But to be fair, I had great reservations about The Avengers as well.  But at least I cared about it.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 06 2014,06:11
< Batman's going to be in his 50s. >
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 13 2014,12:40
Brainiac is the rumored villain.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2014,15:12

(Leisher @ Oct. 13 2014,14:40)
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Brainiac is the rumored villain.

Is each villain going to need his own flick before we see Legion of Doom?



Posted by GORDON on Oct. 13 2014,16:47
Their stated intention is to make these movies dour, serious, and completely unfun.  Is anyone going to even care about a Legion of Doom story?
Posted by DictionaryDave on Oct. 15 2014,12:41
< http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014....-movies >

10 DC movies coming out.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2014,12:43
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And a new Green Lantern movie will also arrive in 2020, nine years after the first Green Lantern movie made $220 million worldwide, slightly more than the opening weekend gross of Avengers.

Come on.  Shitting on the same character twice in one decade is uncalled for.

Posted by Vince on Oct. 15 2014,14:28
I'm more excited to see the next TV episode of Flash and Arrow than these movies.

I've been pleasantly surprised with Arrow.  And the Pilot for Flash was pretty decent.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 20 2014,05:51
< Robin cast. (Spoilers...duh) >
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2014,07:13
They could cast Poochie the Dog as Robin and it wouldn't bad as shitty as Affleck being Bats.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 24 2014,06:27
< Bale is having second thoughts. >

I'm not sure they would have kept him even if he had kept his hat in the ring, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a person would regret backing away from a cash cow.

Bale probably watched Downey resign for more Iron Man and then realized that perhaps he made a mistake.



Posted by GORDON on Nov. 24 2014,07:16
I would have been excited if it was Nolan's Batman in the movie.  When it comes to Aflek all I can picture is Clooney's batman.  SO I am expecting major suckage, my expectations can't be lower.  That's probably good.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 24 2014,13:48
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I would have been excited if it was Nolan's Batman in the movie.


Define "Nolan's Batman". Do you mean Bale or the character?

Posted by GORDON on Nov. 24 2014,13:53
Bale, with the same (why so?) serious tone.  I just have a feeling we're going to get a Aflek performance and a Schwarzenegger "ICE TO MEET YOU" tone and "Holey rusted metal, Batman."
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,14:18
Hey, no jokes, remember?
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 24 2014,14:20
I just don't even know.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 24 2014,15:05
I would argue that Nolan's films just happened to also include Batman and Bale didn't really do much. Plus, that voice was terrible.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 24 2014,15:11
We've discussed the voice before.  I don't know why you can't accept a reasonable explanation for it.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,17:33

(GORDON @ Nov. 24 2014,17:11)
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We've discussed the voice before.  I don't know why you can't accept a reasonable explanation for it.

Bruce Wayne does not have a Welsh lisp.  In any Batman universe.  Anywhere.  Ever.  He sounds like he has a fucking cleft palate.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 24 2014,17:38
My "reasonable explanation" was that everybody knows Bruce Wayne, and everybody would recognize his voice.  He has to disguise it.  Everyone knows he is disguising it.  He knows everybody knows he is disguising it.  He doesn't care.  I guess other easy alternatives would be a falsetto or perhaps a Jerry Lewis/wacky voice.  Perhaps a Texan drawl, that would throw everyone off the scent.

I think getting stuck on the voice is silly.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2014,17:42
It sounds like Sylvester the cat broke into the Batcave and jacked his shit.
Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 24 2014,17:43
Batnipples.

Those were a thing.

Given that, I have no problems with the voice.



Posted by Leisher on Nov. 25 2014,07:15
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My "reasonable explanation" was that everybody knows Bruce Wayne, and everybody would recognize his voice.  He has to disguise it.  Everyone knows he is disguising it.  He knows everybody knows he is disguising it.  He doesn't care.  I guess other easy alternatives would be a falsetto or perhaps a Jerry Lewis/wacky voice.  Perhaps a Texan drawl, that would throw everyone off the scent.


All those toys and he couldn't come up with a voice modulator?


Posted by Leisher on May 25 2015,21:39
< New documentary coming about original Justice League movie. >

It was going to be directed by the guy who directed the new Mad Max movie.

Posted by GORDON on May 26 2015,04:36

(Leisher @ May 26 2015,00:39)
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< New documentary coming about original Justice League movie. >

It was going to be directed by the guy who directed the new Mad Max movie.

Good thing they dodged that bullet.
Posted by thibodeaux on May 26 2015,06:38

(GORDON @ Nov. 24 2014,10:16)
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I would have been excited if it was Nolan's Batman in the movie.  When it comes to Aflek all I can picture is Clooney's batman.  SO I am expecting major suckage, my expectations can't be lower.  That's probably good.

When I heard Affleck was going to play Batman, I was totally like, "Didn't he already do that?" And then I remembered, no it was George Clooney.

They're both that forgettable.

Posted by Leisher on Jun. 02 2015,07:08
< What George Miller's Justice League might have looked like. >
Posted by Leisher on Mar. 08 2016,11:57
< Cave Johnson to play Commissioner Gordon. >

I love JK and he'll do great, but I'd prefer he remain J. Jonah.

Plus, more Cave Johnson!

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