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Forum: Games Topic: So what are you going to do about Securom? started by: WSGrundy Posted by WSGrundy on Nov. 09 2008,11:02
Lot of talk about it and a lot of games have it. So far if it has securom I won't buy it but I am not sure how long I can keep this up. I keep passing on more and more games that have it. Right now there are 6 PC games that I want that have it and 4 I have on my shelf that have it that I wasn't aware about. I hate the "Well it hasn't affected me yet so it doesn't bother me." argument but what else is there? I have installed games that have it and from what I can tell have not been hurt by it. Right now I am thinking of moving from the no securom stance to securom but only if it doesn't have install limits and will allow me to sell the game to someone else. Just wondering what other opinions were because right now it seems like I have to ease up on my stance or give up PC gaming. Posted by GORDON on Nov. 09 2008,11:13
I have a bit of a backlog of games I bought but haven't played yet, and I have some old games which, thanks for their lack of DRM, I am going to be replaying (Hello, Homeworld), so I won't be desperate for new stuff for a while. Then, when I absolutely need to buy something new, hopefully securerom has either been sued out of existence, or it has been patched out of today's new games due to customer complaint, and I can but them off of the cheap rack. I'm thinking Crysis and FarCry 2, both of which have securerom. I'd have bought them by now, otherwise. Posted by Leisher on Nov. 10 2008,08:33
If Steam offers the games I want through their service minus SecureRom, then I'll get them through there. If not, then I will acquire said games another, DRM-free way. I think the lawsuits are going to force EA to make some changes. It's just going to take time. The lawsuits are going to make it painfully obvious that this isn't just about piracy, and that alone should win the cases. Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 10 2008,08:49
I dont buy/play a lot of PC games. Last one was probably Civilization IV. Even then, I bought it, and dl'ed the cracked version anyway.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 10 2008,09:12
I'll be in the market for FarCry 2, Dead Space, Fallout 3, C&C 3, Legendary, and Fable II (if it is available on PC, otherwise, I'll rent it.). All games I'd run out and purchase right now if I knew I could get them without DRM. With DRM... Forgot to add Mirror's Edge to that list. Posted by WSGrundy on Nov. 10 2008,15:22
My issue with steam is that I can sell my games when I am done with them without some hassle.What about having two HDs and only putting games on the one and nothing else. When I am done with the game I can format that drive and get rid of the securom. Or is this to simplistic and securom will put itself on my other HD? I know that doesn't change the fact that I still have securom on my PC but it wouldn't be there forever causing other issues after I uninstall the game. Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2008,15:41
(TheCatt @ Nov. 10 2008,10:49) QUOTE I dont buy/play a lot of PC games. Last one was probably Civilization IV. Even then, I bought it, and dl'ed the cracked version anyway. Same here. If the industry wants to go this route, then I'll join the pirates. Posted by Cakedaddy on Nov. 10 2008,15:42
It's going to install stuff to Windows. So, unless you remove the drive with Windows on it, you will still have securom. You're only option would be to reformat your drive after you are done playing the game.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2008,16:15
(Cakedaddy @ Nov. 10 2008,17:42) QUOTE It's going to install stuff to Windows. So, unless you remove the drive with Windows on it, you will still have securom. You're only option would be to reformat your drive after you are done playing the game. Whoa, you've got to reformat your hard disk to get rid of this shyte? What the fuck ever happened to uninstall? Does someone come by & solder new hardware to your machine? Posted by WSGrundy on Nov. 10 2008,17:14
(Malcolm @ Nov. 10 2008,14:15) QUOTE (Cakedaddy @ Nov. 10 2008,17:42) QUOTE It's going to install stuff to Windows. So, unless you remove the drive with Windows on it, you will still have securom. You're only option would be to reformat your drive after you are done playing the game. Whoa, you've got to reformat your hard disk to get rid of this shyte? What the fuck ever happened to uninstall? Does someone come by & solder new hardware to your machine? Yeah it doesn't get removed when you uninstall the game and from what I understand there isn't any sort of file that shows up in control panel to uninstall either. Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 10 2008,17:18
No, but the uninstall scripts are coded by the software developer (except those that use a preset script in Windows itself, which isn't very many). So they can choose what to uninstall using that proceedure.I can see two viable options. One is to have a dual-boot system with one instance of the OS just for games you don't fully trust. It shouldn't mess with the other boot. Then reformat that game version every so often as needed. The other would be to take a snapshot of your system with Norton Ghost or something like that, then roll-back after you are done with the game. Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 10 2008,17:23
Either of those solutions seems excessive for what may be a single piece of software.
Posted by WSGrundy on Nov. 10 2008,17:27
(TPRJones @ Nov. 10 2008,15:18) QUOTE I can see two viable options. One is to have a dual-boot system with one instance of the OS just for games you don't fully trust. It shouldn't mess with the other boot. Then reformat that game version every so often as needed. The other would be to take a snapshot of your system with Norton Ghost or something like that, then roll-back after you are done with the game. So whats the easier route to avoid securom affecting you system? What you suggested above or just getting a version online that is free of the shit to begin with? I will have to do some research cause I don't know where to begin anymore if getting it online. Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 10 2008,17:34
Pirating. Or gamecopyworld.com
Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 10 2008,18:40
(WSGrundy @ Nov. 10 2008,15:27) QUOTE ...just getting a version online that is free of the shit to begin with... This is by far the easiest solution. You just need a bittorrent program and a search at any number of torrent tracking sites. Couldn't be simpler. Welcome to the dark side. |