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Topic: Source MODs
started by: Leisher

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 06 2008,11:10

Valve released 5 Source MODs for Steam users, the only catch being that you must own a Source game to get them for free and play them.

The FNF folks are talking about Insurgency and Age of Chivalry (I think that's the name). I might download them and give them a shot depending on reviews over there.

I've already downloaded and am anxious to try Zombie Panic.

I also might be curious in Synergy which apparently allows HL2 and such to be played co-op...?

Posted by Troy on Oct. 06 2008,16:40

Ok, I'll admit I wasn't 100% sold on steam at the beginning, but after playing hl2 and dod in the first year, i got sold, combine with the greatness that is TF2 and now THIS... that's how game company should act man.

I guess to sum up this post... Fuck EA.

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 06 2008,16:51

I still hate that I can't play games WITH OFFLINE CONTENT and THAT I HAVE PAID IN FULL FOR when my internet service is down. That is a major flaw in the system and one reason I don't intend to spend a single penny more with them until they fix it. Or until I am on a 100% uptime unbreakable connection of some sort.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 06 2008,16:56

I've got extra copies of all those games.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 06 2008,16:59

(TPRJones @ Oct. 06 2008,14:51)

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I thought we covered that?

You can!

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 06 2008,17:07

Oh? It seemed to me that when I spent nearly two weeks with power but no internet connection and tried to play Half-Life 2 and Portal (etc) it kept insisting I had to log into Steam first. I tried everything. It refused.

Which sucked because the only games I had that didn't require some sort of online connection were those and minesweeper and solitaire. Now I have pirated Spore I could play instead, but it too would be just as useless if I had actually paid for it, apparently.

EDIT: If you can figure it out and test it (i.e. unplug and then play anyway) then I will retract my complaint. But do be sure to tell me how you did it.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 06 2008,18:41

I'm pretty sure Troy is right and you can play those games offline, but I'm not positive.

I believe we covered this topic previously and someone found a thread covering it in the Steam forums. I'll do a search for it tomorrow if nobody has beat me to it.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 06 2008,19:05

There was a thread where I said it on this very forum.

I'm far to lazy to find it.

But the skinny of it is that I downloaded one of the Call of Duties right before Time warner smashed a screwdriver in my cable box, and for the week that it was out, I just played in "steam offline mode" and had no trouble playing the singleplayer stuff!

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 06 2008,19:09

< How to play Steam games offline. >

Another thing I like about Steam is being able to enter codes for older games, like I've recently done with HL, HL: Blue Shift, and HL: Opposing Force. Now I no longer need the CDs.

I'd love it if they got more third party support for other games so that I could register more games. Imagine being able to store your entire collection on Steam. You'd register those CD keys and be able to store your CDs and theoretically never need them again, yet have the whole collection available to you anytime and anywhere.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 06 2008,19:25

In TPR's defense, he wouldn't have been able to google that info when he needed it.

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 06 2008,19:27

Well, according to the instructions I am reading in that thread, the first step to doing this is to log in online to Steam. That's fucking retarded. If I could go online I wouldn't need to play offline.

Unless I'm missing something, of course. But I'm pretty sure it's clearly saying first you must log in online to Steam, THEN you can select File -> Go Offline. No wonder I couldn't get it to work.

Worthless.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 06 2008,19:28

Heh, if that's true and the Steam servers get washed away in a tsunami, no one can play, ever.

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 06 2008,19:33

I guess anytime a hurricane enters the Gulf of Mexico I will be sure to log in to Steam and select Go Offline. Just in case. So it's not completely worthless. But you do have to plan ahead if you are going to have any unexpected lack of internet connection and want to play any Steam games.

Am I the only one that think that is not sufficient?

Posted by Troy on Oct. 06 2008,20:26

In my case, It just tried to log into steam for a few minutes, and then just finally asked if I wanted to start in Offline mode.

I said yes, and presto, single player goodness.

Oh and to edit, I tried Zombie Panic tonight.

It was hella fun, with some teamwork, you could dominate servers...

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 06 2008,20:43

(Troy @ Oct. 06 2008,18:26)

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In my case, It just tried to log into steam for a few minutes, and then just finally asked if I wanted to start in Offline mode.

Ah, I didn't get that. I tried several times, and it just kept trying and trying and never gave me any options like that. I wonder if they disabled something?

Posted by Troy on Oct. 06 2008,20:54

(TPRJones @ Oct. 06 2008,18:43)

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(Troy @ Oct. 06 2008,18:26)

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In my case, It just tried to log into steam for a few minutes, and then just finally asked if I wanted to start in Offline mode.

Ah, I didn't get that. I tried several times, and it just kept trying and trying and never gave me any options like that. I wonder if they disabled something?

When did you try that?

It was working for me a month and a half ago or so.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 06 2008,21:35

TPR is crazy. . . Just for grins, I unplugged my Network cord. I had no connection to the Internet. I started Steam. It applied the update that was downloaded last time I was on. It said that the Network wasn't available and asked if I wanted to go into offline mode. I said yes. It then loaded my Steam window and I selected HL2:Ep1 from the list. It loaded and worked fine. Other than waiting for Steam to timeout and see there was no Network connection, I didn't see any differences. So, unless there was an update to offline mode in the update that was just applied. . . TPR is crazy. . .

About a month ago, my son was playing CS in offline mode against a bunch of bots. So, it was working for him as long as a month ago as well.

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 07 2008,03:47

Huh. Then I retract my complaint and replace it with confusion. I'll try it again tonight myself and see what happens.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2008,05:22

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my son was playing CS in offline mode against a bunch of bots.

Did you guys see that someone is creating bots for TF2? I guess they already have the demo and maybe the heavy. They said the spy was going to be the hardest class to get working properly.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 07 2008,06:10

I thought I saw TF2 bots long ago.

I know they were all over Quake Wars.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 07 2008,06:11

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I know they were all over Quake Wars.

They had to make bots for Quake Wars since no people were actually playing it.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 07 2008,06:15

Pretty soon we're going to need bots to replace all the dtman peeps not playing except for me and TPR.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 07 2008,06:48

We all need to play the Zombie Panic game.

That was a lot of fun last night.

I'll do more of a writeup during lunch.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 07 2008,07:40

I tried the diprip game for about 30 minutes. It's really hard to drive and shoot at the same time. I don't think it will be something I'll play much at all.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 07 2008,09:22

Ok... Zombie Panic! game.

First, take the counterstrike model, maps, two teams, fight until noone is left style.

Now we make some changes.

The round begins, and you can choose to be one of a few "Zombies", 200 health, melee attack only, plus he has a feedometer that replenishes his health and makes him move faster. One is a carrier, that is a little differently colored, has a little more health, and can turn survivors into zombies even if he wings them. (10% chance, plus you make weird noises, and other survivors can shoot you)

Round starts, 75% survivors, 25% Zombies.

Survivors start with pistols and a random melee weapon, like a frying pan, or an Axe.

There are 3-4 different kinds of pistols, 2 different types of automatic weapons, mp5/ak47, and a few different types of shotguns. These are scattered, EVERYWHERE, in random places, all over maps.

I got an AK47 last night and was the king of my survivor group!

Anyway, the best way to play is that the survivors split into small groups and go collect weapons and find good rooms to blockade themselves in.

Zombies can just go find people and eat faces, best before the survivor groups start finding shotguns and AKs.

Whenever a Survivor goes down, he respawns as a Zombie, and the 25/75 percentage count gets swayed towards the Zombies.

Everytime the survivors kill a Zombie, a little counter which starts at 10/20/30 starts ticking down. When it reaches Zero, no more zombies spawn.

I played for a while, and had fun.

I snagged a very large shotgun at some point, and me and another dude held off the Zombie horde on the stair well until he ran out of ammo(There is never enough, but the game makes it so that survivors can drop ammo to each other, always more ammo than weapons) and a Zombie came up behind me and bit my head off!

I had fun, mostly it seemed to be very disogranized, and I didn't get many games where the Survirors won, until I got to a Clan server, and all the survivors with clan tags holed up in one room, and only went out to go get more ammo.

It was fun, I'll play it when I get home tonight!

The atmosphere is very creepy, and cool.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 07 2008,09:29

I just checked out their site, looks like there is usually only 1-2 starting zombies, and not 25%.

I just thought it seemed like more as I ran around trying to find a bigger gun.