Topic: Bioshock
started by: GORDON
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 19 2007,18:27
Yes, it's been mentioned in one or two generic game threads, but here is its own thread.I read in PC Gamer that the highly anticipated Bioshock... is Windows Live capable.
Windows Live is Vista-only.
Does this mean Bioshock will be Vista only, ya think? Because nobody has mentioned that, and it will piss a lot of people off if it doesn't run on XP.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jul. 19 2007,18:56
No I have read it will be on XP.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 19 2007,20:06
Just reread the article... it definately said "Live for Windows will be supported."But I guess that means it will have it if running on Vista.
Was also just reading about Vista-only Shadowrun.... which doesn't even have DX10 effects. The only reason it requires Vista is for Live, which only requires Vista because Microsoft says so. Dumb.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jul. 19 2007,20:11
I read an article with the developers talking about how faster processor was more important then DX10. So Vista people might not have the best looking and smoothest running games.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 19 2007,21:01
Gordon ripped GFW:OM (the former CGW) when they changed their name and accepted the certain corporate sponsor, but damn the last article last month, written by EIC Jeff Green blasted MS. In that article, he blasted the THREE games available under the GFW banner and how each one sucks in it's own way. One is a stupid puzzle game, one is Shadowrun, the other is the many years old Halo 2.
He also went on the blast MS charging people for Live despite bringing nothing new to the table that PC users didn't already get for free.
And to top it off, he pointed out how their attitude towards PC gamers, particularly their "Don't buy it if you don't want it" (In other words "Fuck off"), is shit and needs to change.
It's an excellent opinion piece.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 19 2007,21:09
I actually do remember that. Making Halo 2 a Vista game was a slap in the face for all PC gamers... a 2 year old console port.Wasn't the third game fucking UNO???
And amazingly... Vista will still win. Any other company releasing this OS would be laughed into bankruptcy.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 20 2007,07:28
(Leisher @ Jul. 19 2007,23:01)
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...written by EIC Jeff Green blasted MS.
Wow. There's a name I've not heard in a long time.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 20 2007,07:29
(GORDON @ Jul. 19 2007,23:09)
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And amazingly... Vista will still win. Any other company releasing this OS would be laughed into bankruptcy.
Till a viable alternative comes around.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 20 2007,08:11
But it's Microsoft, and they have a lock on the manufacturers selling tens of thousands of Vista-loaded PC's every single day.Shitty OS, but we'll all be on it soon. I'm so happy about that.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 30 2007,10:53
Hey Leisher, how much of a system hog is it?
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2007,06:21
I haven't seen any slowdown in the game at all, but I'm running a pretty good rig. (I'm using SLI)As for the game, so far I'm loving it. This is mainly due to the fantastic atmosphere and story. This is the game Doom III should've been. The environment feels more "alive" and the other inhabitants have purpose and personality.
I do think it's a bit on the difficult side and I think it's intentional due to the abilities you're given. The abilities and the means in which you access them and your other weapons makes this FPS play different from any other. Not that it's a bad thing.
Playing on "normal" and it seems to be equal to any other FPS game's "hard". The targets seem to have perfect aim always hitting me when they fire despite being quite mad. Most of the villains are also lanky (thin and hard to hit), quick (ok, I do think Big Daddy moves a bit too fast when he's fighting), and more erratically. The splicers also seem to always regenerate in areas you've left, which does bug me. To make matters worse, the weapons are 1940s crap. So your machine gun tends to point skyward almost as soon as you pull the trigger. Also, ammo and money (to buy more ammo) are hard to find.
I don't know. Maybe it's just me, and I screwed myself up with all those older FPSs I played in the last few months, but I think Bioshock is tough.
Add onto that, the fact that everything is a choice. What weapons you use, buying items, the way you get Adam, what your load out is, etc. Everything is a choice.
The everything is a choice thing is both cool and a new annoying tactic of game design. For example: I have two slots for my special abilities, but I have three abilities (not named to prevent spoilers), so I have to choose only two, yet all three are really needed in the next area if I want the best chance of getting through alive.
So very tough, but still fun and creepy.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2007,07:55
Heh, I still remember loading up on fire arrows, water arrows, & holy water in "Thief." An unchanging loadout of the same weapons does get boring after a bit.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2007,11:39
Oh, you can change it. In fact, there are apparently so many abilities that Gamespot won't even talk about them all in their strategy guide. The problem is "when" you can change them.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 05 2007,05:29
Been playing this more lately as I have more time. This is a game that you MUST play in a darkened room without distractions. If you can let it immerse you into Rapture, then you're going to get the most enjoyment out of it.
The atmosphere of Rapture is pretty damn nice.
I'd also recommend giving this a nice run through rather than playing it one day, then coming back in a week, etc. Not saying to play it all at once, but let this be your game of choice for a few days to get the most out of the story and atmosphere.
Initially, I thought things were a bit on the tough side. I thought aiming was a bit hard and resources too limited. Now that I'm used to it, I don't feel the same way anymore.
In fact, I'm quite the bad ass walking through levels. Despite that, I encountered a new enemy last night who shook my world up a bit. I liked that a lot. Right when you think, "I'm invincible!", something comes along and puts you in your place.
My only gripe thus far is that I can't figure out how to play recorded messages that I might have not played earlier. It would be a really shitty design decision if they only allow you to play them as soon as you find them because you can find them in hostile areas and the message to play them only stays on screen for 1-2 seconds. On top of that, other non-recorded messages can override them.
Great game so far though. The Little Sister and Big Daddy are going to go down as some of the most memorable characters in gaming history.
"Break him into little pieces, Mr. Bubbles!"
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 08 2007,12:22
It's official: Bioshock is awesome. I am a bit disappointed with the developers due to the storyline because...well...they need a new writer.
NOT THAT THE STORY IS BAD!!! They just need a new writer. When one of you other old school gamers play through it, you'll know what I mean.
Again, I'll point out that the Big Daddies and Little Sisters are going to be legendary. There's just something about them that is so compelling.
"*Yawn* Time for nighty night Mr. B."
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 16 2007,08:18
Great game, setting, gameplay, graphics, characters, story, and ending. Actually one of the better endings I've seen. Not because it's long, but because it you were immersed in the game...either way...it should fit your mood at that moment.Buy it.
9 out of 10.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jan. 04 2008,11:49
Got the game for xmas. Playing it on XP. Cool game. I'm, what appears to me, to be a good way through 'level 2'.Just curious:
Did you Harvest, Rescue or both? Don't want to know the affect of any answer. So no 'why' explination. . . just curious what you picked.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2008,12:31
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Did you Harvest, Rescue or both? Don't want to know the affect of any answer. So no 'why' explination. . . just curious what you picked.
I rescued every single one.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 03 2008,19:46
(Leisher @ Oct. 05 2007,00:29)
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My only gripe thus far is that I can't figure out how to play recorded messages that I might have not played earlier. It would be a really shitty design decision if they only allow you to play them as soon as you find them because you can find them in hostile areas and the message to play them only stays on screen for 1-2 seconds. On top of that, other non-recorded messages can override them.
Press 'M' for the map, and down in the lower right corner are some buttons. Click on those to review tapes you've picked up as well as past radio transmissions from people.
Just started playing again from a while ago. Still a cool game. I'm learning new uses for different weapons I've been carrying around but not using.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 27 2008,12:12
So I just read that the DRM that comes on Bioshock DVD's, "SecureROM," requires online activation and only allows 2 system installs EVER.This means that I may probably never buy this game, or at least will wait until it drops under twenty bucks.
Does this mean if you buy it used you can't use it, if it has already been installed twice?
Total horseshit.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 27 2008,14:07
The way I read it, you couldn't have more than two 'concurent' installs. If you want it on a third PC, you have to uninstall it from one of the first two.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 27 2008,14:10
Actually, it looks like they came up with a "5 by 5" plan. Installed on up to 5 PCs, with upto 5 reinstalls per PC.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 27 2008,14:12
Oh, and if you unistall the game, it frees up one of the 5 pc slots. The problem comes from people who just reformat their hard drives without uninstalling things. Just make sure you uninstall it first, or don't have 5 major system failures.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 27 2008,14:28
Lastly, this is offered through Steam. I don't like Steam either, but, it's something.Basically started looking into all this stuff cause I'm on my second install of my BioShock game (reformatted recently). So, it looks like I've got options as far as continuing to play my game. Or their game. Or, whoever owns what I just paid for. . .
Over all, I understand. . . but I don't like it. Wonder what the perfect solution is.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 27 2008,15:04
(Cakedaddy @ Apr. 27 2008,17:07)
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The way I read it, you couldn't have more than two 'concurent' installs. If you want it on a third PC, you have to uninstall it from one of the first two.
Well, that sounds better than what I read... but it is still too bad we can't freely use the shit we pay for.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 28 2008,10:11
Crypto/security class was talking about how worthless EULAs are. Professor said that the biggest software folk subscribe to the bible of, "You're not buying the software, you're buying the right to use it."
Posted by Cakedaddy on Jun. 01 2008,21:05
(GORDON @ Apr. 27 2008,07:12)
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This means that I may probably never buy this game, or at least will wait until it drops under twenty bucks.
< $19.99 >
Ya, I know. . . tax. But screw you anyway.
It's worth it.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 02 2008,14:51
I can wait until:1. Build my new system. I like maxed graphics.
2. It drops to $20 on amazon.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 02 2008,17:27
< Here is part of what you are waiting for. >
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 02 2008,17:50
Ok, I went ahead and ordered it. It won't drop significantly lower than that for a while.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 09 2008,10:21
< $15 at Circuit City. No Free Shipping and Tax though. >
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 09 2008,10:41
I'd rather pay $20 and get it tax free than pay $15 but send another $3 to the government.
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 09 2008,11:19
Yall have 20% sales tax?
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 09 2008,13:56
I KNEW someone would nitpick my "throw some random number out there to make a point" because the math wasn't exact.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 09 2008,14:02
(GORDON @ Jun. 09 2008,13:56)
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I KNEW someone would nitpick my "throw some random number out there to make a point" because the math wasn't exact.
You need to put disclaimers on every post for this board!
Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 09 2008,14:31
(GORDON @ Jun. 09 2008,16:56)
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I KNEW someone would nitpick my "throw some random number out there to make a point" because the math wasn't exact.
Marines are pussies and dumb.
Posted by WSGrundy on Jun. 20 2008,16:19
All the DRM has been removed from the game. You are allowed as many installs as you want.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 25 2008,14:16
$14.99 this weekend (July 25, 26, and 27, 2008) on Steam.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 25 2008,14:24
A few hours into it now.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 31 2008,08:51
To the point where...The other guy took over the company...
My Plasmids are screwy and on autopilot...
Am I almost done?
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 31 2008,10:34
I'm not sure. Sorry.Have you helped with the art yet? (That's not a spoiler.)
It bears repeating that Big Daddies and Little Sisters are two of the greatest characters ever created.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 31 2008,10:37
Yep, did the art.And saw a room full of the little girls I rescued.
Then I went kindly went golfing.
Posted by Leisher on Oct. 31 2008,10:42
I think you're close.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 31 2008,10:51
You should warn of spoilers if you are talking about progress, what you are seeing, and how close to being done you are.I was surprised by when the end showed up. Might not want to ruin that for others.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Oct. 31 2008,10:54
Also, just finished the game rescuing the sisters. Replaying the game harvesting them. I'm very interested in seeing the different ending, if there is one. I don't want to know if there is a different ending!! I'm just saying. This might be the first game I'm replaying, ever.This is an awesome game.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 31 2008,11:20
I'll not be replaying.I've been itching to reload Supreme Commander on this new PC.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 03 2008,16:39
I finished it. I went the "rescue" route, and though I didn't like what I had to do in-game near the end, I was happy with the ending.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 23 2008,06:59
< $10 at circuit city >
Posted by Troy on Nov. 23 2008,07:22
Damn.I Just payed 20 bucks for this on steam a few days ago.
It's been ok so far. Maybe I should have bought crysis instead. It hasn't helped that that I started the game off in Hard mode, and am now having trouble killing Big Daddies in the second level without a security camera(apparenly these are good)
Posted by Paul on Nov. 21 2013,12:09
All three games for < $15 on Amazon >.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 21 2013,16:54
(Paul @ Nov. 21 2013,15:09)
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All three games for < $15 on Amazon >.
Bought, thanks!