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Topic: Choice of Next Gen Console
started by: TheCatt

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 20 2006,17:45

Just curious if anyone was planning to buy any of these in the near future/owned one already.

Posted by WSGrundy on Nov. 20 2006,21:04

I will get all three but not in the near future. The only one I will possibly get in the near future is a 360 on Thanksgiving and that is if I am lucky enough to get one of the 1,000 going on sale at amazon for $100. If I don't get a chance there then I will wait.

Console just aren't worth the price at launch since the game line up is always so weak.

Posted by GORDON on Nov. 20 2006,23:35

The only gaming hardware I'd pay more then $200 for is going to go into a PC.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 21 2006,03:17

(WSGrundy @ Nov. 21 2006,00:04)

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Yeah... you and 500,000 other people (including me)

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 21 2006,06:25

As I've said here before, I don't understand standing in line and spending that much money on a new console that has NOTHING in terms of a game line up.

"Yeah, I got the new PS3. I spent $2000 on eBay, but it's mine."
"Great, let's play a game."
"Oh, there aren't any out yet..."

In 6 months, the price will drop and there will be a lot more games available. Why not wait.

That being said, I'll probably wind up with all three...maybe.

I already have a 360, which I bought for both the games and because I use it as a DVD player in my office.

The PS3 has done nothing to get me interested in buying one to date. I have yet to see a significant title that makes me want the system.

I might get the Wii in a year or so for the kid friendly games.

But the PC will always be my system of choice for gaming. It's just so superior in terms of content, controls, graphics, etc.

The consoles are just better for "quick gaming", multi with someone in the room, and there are a few console only games that are worth the time.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Nov. 21 2006,09:10

Bought the Wii, but won't be played until after x-mas. We traditionaly end up with multiple consoles, so, will probably end up with another or all.

And now that I know that the 360 will be $100. . . make that 500001 people trying for it!

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2006,10:24

If Nintendo would let their games get more violent & adult-oriented (as opposed to the G-rated shit they push now) & their weird-ass Wii controller motion-detection system thingy works as well as they claim, I'd almost consider getting one. There's just something I find entracing about pretending to hack something to death & seeing results & feedback on a screen.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 21 2006,10:25

& the PS3 commercials I've seen are bordering on the nihlistic absurdity of the Calvin Klein ads of much infamy. They piss me off.

Posted by Vince on Nov. 21 2006,16:56

Have a 360.

Wish the Wii all the luck in the world, but fear the motion sensing controller will lose it's novelty pretty quick. Had one of those for the PC made by Microsoft a few years back, and eventually I just got bored with it.

Sony pisses me off on too many fronts, so fuck them. Besides, I think the new PS3 has been designed to explode when the Blue Ray loses the HD format war.

Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 21 2006,19:31

If I were the sort to buy new consoles it would be a Wii. Yeah, motion controlers have never caught on for the PC, but then this one will be fully suported by a whole suite of games for it. I'm looking forward to seeing how this will effect the console industry.

But the last console I paid for was an Atari 2600 about four years ago, so it'll be quite some time before I pick up a Wii.

Posted by Vince on Nov. 21 2006,21:09

I had a couple of games that used the motion controller. It wasn't the game I got tired of. It was the motion controller.

I actually played one of them a while longer with a regular joystick. Not that big a deal if you wanted to turn off the motion sensor and use it as a regular controller, but it looks like a remote control for a vibrating, heated recliner.

I just don't think it's going to last.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 22 2006,02:51

I was thinking of trying the Wii. The "hard core" gaming I do is on the PC, and I'm happy with it. But I though the Wii might be good for some occasional brainless gaming.

Amazon is selling XBox 360 core systems for $100 at 2pm on Thursday, fyi.

Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 22 2006,10:52

2pm Eastern?

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 22 2006,14:22

(TPRJones @ Nov. 22 2006,13:52)

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2pm Eastern?

2pm Eastern.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Nov. 23 2006,00:21

Update:

Due to a birthday loop hole being exploited, the Wii has been opened and played. First impressions:

It doesn't seem as accurate, or sensative as I thought it would be. The Wii ships with some sports games. I can tell that they were meant to just show the capabilities of the controlers rather than be a great game. And that's fine. The games really aren't that bad. There's Tennis, Boxing, Golf, Bowling and Baseball. Bowling works really well and is actually pretty fun for being bowling. Golf has alot of glitches. It's hard to determine what is actually telling the game how hard you want to swing. So, it's hard to tap the ball, or half swing and stuff. And, alot of times, you'll go back for your back swing, and the game won't pick it up. So you bring your hands down to try again, and then your avatar starts a back swing that stops halfway and comes back down (while your on a half assed down swing). Stuff like that. It seems like it has a hard time figuring out where you really are. We might be holding the controlers wrong or something. But we are following the on screen directions. It could also just be the game. A real golf game might have more intelligence or something. Baseball is ok, but the included game is VERY limited. The ball seems to be thrown at random speeds regardless of how fast you 'throw' the controler. An underhand slow lob results in a 65mph fast ball as many times as a true wind up over hand 'throw'. And, a swing is a swing. No bunts, no getting under it for a fly ball, no chopping for a grounder, etc. There is also no fielding. The ball is hit, it's cought or stopped and it auto determines who's safe/out/etc. So, a real baseball game has some potential. The control seemed to pick up on your movements well. Threw when you wanted it to, swung at the right time, etc.
Bowling worked really well too. Haven't figured out the technique yet, but you can put a spin on the ball depending on how you hold the controler, or how you spin it, or something. The spin you put on it changes axes too. So again, it seems to read what you want it to do. Except when you get crazy with it. When you do a side arm 'whip', it reads it as a normal roll and goes realatively straight. The game is limited in that you can't aim like you may want to. But again, a real bowling game could be pretty fun. . . for bowling.
Boxing didn't work that well. You would throw multiple jabs, and it would only read a couple of them. And it's not like you were jabbing too quickly. It just wouldn't see them. It did pick up on head shots and body blows pretty well though. Didn't pick up on the upper cut though. If they can read all swings, a real boxing game could be alot of fun.
Tennis was ok. Again, a swing was a swing. The speed of your swing didn't translate into the game. I THINK it was picking up on lobs and stuff, but was too intermittent to know for sure. On the serve, it could tell if you were swinging correctly though. If you did a side arm swing, it would do that on screen. If you did the over head swipe serve swing, it would read it. Again, the game was really limited, but a real tennis game has potential as well.
So, over all, there is definately some potential for getting the player 'in the game'. But full games will have to be made/purchased. I wonder if they could do football.
As far as FPS. No idea. Don't have one. However, just pointing and clicking through the menus proved difficult. The pointer was VERY squirrely and hard to control. A real game might be able to correct that.

The only real game I've played (not demo) is Excite Truck. You stear by holding the controler in front of you in both hands and 'stearing' it. It was very sensative, but worked well. It took a few races to get use to it. The camera angle screws with you too. Hard to explain, but you have to correct for camera angle. Only raced like 5 times, so couldn't give a real review of the game, but I'll at least play it some more. Holding the controler level and paying attention to it is key though. It's easy to forget you have to stear it and just start twisting it in the air and wondering why you aren't going where you want it to.

In summary, I see REAL potential for fun games with these new controlers. I'm hoping that full versions of real games can correct the misc issues we are having OR, that we can learn how to hold them correctly so they work. If they (we) do, kick ass. Fun and new game play is on the way. If not, then it will be difficult to have fun cause of the frustration of not being able to get the game to do what you wanted it to.

Posted by WSGrundy on Dec. 08 2006,22:12

The Wii is going to < kill > somebody.

They need to tell people that there isn't any 1:1 recognition with the games and they don't need to imitate the commercials.

Or to just stop being a total spaz.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 11 2006,14:23

Got a Wii today.

They're apparently going for $600+ on eBay. I was planning to keep this one, but it's tempting.

Posted by WSGrundy on Dec. 12 2006,12:37

Nintendo is saying they will have 2 million made by the end of the year and 4-6 million by March. So if you did sell it you shouldn't have to wait that long.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 12 2006,13:03

Right now it's on my tv stand going "Testing connection..."

Like it has been for 3 minutes now.

Hmmm.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 12 2006,13:08

Reset seems to have fixed that.

It's updating for the 2nd time now.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 12 2006,13:37

NOOOOO!O!O!OO!O!!!!O!O!O!!!111!!O!O Don't let it update!! Updates are messed up last I heard.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 12 2006,14:47

It worked, just spent the past 1.5 hours playing:

Overall:
Graphics are very smooth, as would be expected for something still doing standard TV signal. Controls are very natural, size is very small. Wireless setup was very easy (easier than a laptop for sure).

Games:
Bowling: [2/5] Sorta fun.
Tennis: [3/5] A bit repetitive, would be more fun with others.
Boxing: [4/5]Pretty fun. Controls were fun, sorta like real punching.
Baseball: [1/5] Eh. Controls are too simple, not enough to do in the game.
Golf: [4.5/5] Very fun. I've always liked computer golf games, and while I can't quite get the feel for putting, the overall game works well.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 12 2006,23:08

Ya, we still can't figure putting out either. I thought the bowling was done pretty well for a free game. Tennis is fun with more people, but more dangerous too. 4 people is tight unless you have a big room. Boxing seems to miss some of our swings. Baseball is exactly what you said.

I'll wait for a real golf game before I throw out a 4.5 though. ;-)

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2006,05:34

Yeah, too much realism isn't what I want from a golf game. I really like miniature golf, and computer golf seems analagous to me.

Boxing seems to miss some of my (and the wife's) swings as well. Particularly the nunchuck (left hand) ones.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 13 2006,07:27

I think you two have sold me on getting a Wii.

Now I just need a reason to get a PS3 and I'll have the set. So far, I'm not seeing one.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2006,08:39

PS3........... um.........

Wait two years, then there will be plenty of games, and they'll be cheaper, and the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD thing may have been decided.

Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 13 2006,16:37

Why pick one when you can < get all three >, and the proceeds even go to charity.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 13 2006,17:52

Only 10%.

Btw, my arm officially hurts.

Posted by WSGrundy on Dec. 13 2006,18:41

You can get 3rd party component and S-video cables for the wii at bestbuy.com now.

There are also wireless sensor bars on the way so you don't need to follow the 10 ft from the TV rule anymore.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 13 2006,19:35

(TheCatt @ Dec. 13 2006,20:52)

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Only 10%.

Btw, my arm officially hurts.

And you're chaffed?

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2006,05:37

(GORDON @ Dec. 13 2006,22:35)

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(TheCatt @ Dec. 13 2006,20:52)

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Only 10%.

Btw, my arm officially hurts.

And you're chaffed?

The Wiisterbation game - harder than it looks.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Dec. 14 2006,11:33

You must have Raving Rabbids then. . .

There are mini games in it where that's pretty much what you have to do. Sometimes, you have to use two hands.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 20 2006,14:08

Our Wii code, if anyone wants to trade: 6827 8980 9994 6548

I have no idea what they do.

Posted by WSGrundy on Dec. 20 2006,14:29

(TheCatt @ Dec. 20 2006,14:08)

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Our Wii code, if anyone wants to trade: 6827 8980 9994 6548

I have no idea what they do.

Lets you connect to other people for multiplay a I believe it sends your Mii to other consoles if they want to have a Mii Parade.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 22 2006,12:06

I got a second one on Amazon's thing on Tuesday, so I was able to resell that one, and end up having the original one I bought for essentially list price - woot.