Topic: sugar nazis
started by: Malcolm
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2009,07:47
< Sugar, yeah tax the hell out of it >. It's not like we've ever gone to war over people taxing our goods unjustly.QUOTE
"We can raise much-needed dollars while likely reducing obesity prevalence, which is a major driver of health care costs, the paper states. "Ultimately the government needs to raise more money to cover the deficit, and in terms of ways of raising that revenue, a tax on sugar sweetened beverages is really a no-brainer."
You can replace the bold part w\ various other consequences-drugs combos & suddenly your argument becomes wrong. How curious.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 17 2009,07:58
< Sugar Act. >What's funny is that today we heavily subsidize sugar production ($61 million is 2004). So now we're going to throw money at it on one end, and take money from it on the other.
I've been saying this for at least a decade: when the government gets into the health care bidness, it will start dictating to us how we live and eat.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2009,08:08
I was just coming here to post/comment on this.We spend BILLIONS of dollars annually to foster corn production, then want to tax it back when it's used to sweeten drinks?
It's like the only thing they know is how to make more laws and bullshit, instead of getting rid of any.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 17 2009,08:36
(TheCatt @ Sep. 17 2009,10:08)
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It's like the only thing they know is how to make more laws and bullshit, instead of getting rid of any.
I got a boss that's the same way. If something's wrong, it's always because there aren't enough rules in place.
That tends to be the nature of those in charge. Unless some unique circumstances occur. If we had to fight a Revolutionary War every fifty years or so, it'd go a long way towards straightening out people's minds. We duked it out w\ John Bull for a few years specifically because of shyte like this. The founding fathers remembered all too well what it was like to be treated no better than walking ATMs by their gov't.
Posted by thibodeaux on Sep. 17 2009,08:42
(GORDON @ Sep. 17 2009,10:58)
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What's funny is that today we heavily subsidize sugar production ($61 million is 2004). So now we're going to throw money at it on one end, and take money from it on the other.
Kind of like tobacco.
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I've been saying this for at least a decade: when the government gets into the health care bidness, it will start dictating to us how we live and eat.
Oh come now, that's just absurd. I mean, they gave that bailout money to the banks and car companies, and they didn't try to meddle in THOSE companies' decisions, did they?
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If we had to fight a Revolutionary War every fifty years or so, it'd go a long way towards straightening out people's minds.
< "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion." >
Posted by thibodeaux on Sep. 17 2009,08:43
HOWEVER. Don't eat sugar, kids. Sugar is what makes you fat.Seriously. I've lost 30 pounds since I cut back on sugar, while at the same time ramping UP my consumption of meat and fat.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2009,13:12
(thibodeaux @ Sep. 17 2009,11:43)
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HOWEVER. Don't eat sugar, kids. Sugar is what makes you fat.
Seriously. I've lost 30 pounds since I cut back on sugar, while at the same time ramping UP my consumption of meat and fat.
Seriously. I've lost 30 pounds since I cut back on sugar, while at the same time ramping UP my consumption of meat and fat.
R2-D2 must be getting lonely.
Posted by thibodeaux on Sep. 17 2009,13:22
I thought they got rid of that when you were still here.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 17 2009,14:44
Oh, maybe. I remember I stopped going to R2 in June, so maybe he left after that and I didn't care.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 30 2015,10:23
< Calling it >. They'll start taxing things like this just as they do with booze and tobacco. Give it a decade.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 30 2015,11:29
So let's see. On the one hand poor people are getting fatter because they can only afford cheap foods, most of which is heavily processed and high in sugar and fat. So let's tax the only food that poor people can afford so that they'll stop eating it.This seems problematic.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 06 2015,10:39
< CrossFit's anti-coke > tweet.
Posted by Alhazad on Jul. 06 2015,16:17
Makes me want a Coke.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 06 2015,18:23
You figure open diabetes is better than closed diabetes.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 06 2015,18:38
Now that Obamacare is a thing everybody gets to have an opinion about your diet. I love that.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 06 2015,18:52
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Now that Obamacare is a thing everybody gets to have an opinion about your diet. I love that.
Mandatory aerobics.
Posted by Alhazad on Jul. 06 2015,20:04
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Now that Obamacare is a thing everybody gets to have an opinion about your diet. I love that.
You say that like we weren't all opinionated, mouthy snowflakes during the previous administrations.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 06 2015,20:33
Who's this 'we,' kemosabe.
Posted by Alhazad on Jul. 06 2015,21:26
(GORDON @ Jul. 06 2015,20:33)
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Who's this 'we,' kemosabe.
I'd link some examples from here, but all the posts before 2009 are missing.
Posted by Vince on Jul. 07 2015,10:36
They were archived for tax purposes
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 07 2015,10:38
Well, I disagree, I don't think those of us who are still left were ever in favor of regulating other peoples diets, but I don't want to argue and be a dick.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,10:48
(GORDON @ Jul. 07 2015,12:38)
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Well, I disagree, I don't think those of us who are still left were ever in favor of regulating other peoples diets, but I don't want to argue and be a dick.
If I'm footing the bill for their diets or results thereof, then my opinion suddenly changes.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 07 2015,11:33
I think this sort of bullshit was predicted back before Obamacare became law. Not just by us, but by pundits while supporters were telling us that's horseshit. Basically, it seems like everything the opposition to Obamacare has said would happen is happening.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 07 2015,12:36
(Malcolm @ Jul. 07 2015,13:48)
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(GORDON @ Jul. 07 2015,12:38)
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Well, I disagree, I don't think those of us who are still left were ever in favor of regulating other peoples diets, but I don't want to argue and be a dick.
If I'm footing the bill for their diets or results thereof, then my opinion suddenly changes.
Yeah, that's what we always said. When we're paying for it, all of a sudden we're allowed to have an opinion about it, and that's fucked.
Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 07 2015,13:07
You've always been allowed to have an opinion about it. No one has to listen to it, though. Even now.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,13:09
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You've always been allowed to have an opinion about it.
No one has to listen to it, though. Even now.
No one has to listen to it, though. Even now.
Uh, fuck that noise. If I'm paying for medical care, even indirectly, for someone's otherwise preventable illness, they will fucking goddamn sure take reasonable steps to try and prevent it unless financial reality trumps it. If they don't want to play that game, then they don't get treatment. I can see fitness wristband hacking becoming a fun new career field.
"Please submit your FitBit export files by the end of the month or else we'll be forced to raise your premium by 50%."
Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 07 2015,14:16
And that's when I tell them to go fuck themselves. My employer pays for my health care and if they don't like what I'm doing then they can fire me. But they aren't going to change me.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,14:18
(TPRJones @ Jul. 07 2015,16:16)
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And that's when I tell them to go fuck themselves. My employer pays for my health care and if they don't like what I'm doing then they can fire me. But they aren't going to change me.
I can't fire someone on Obamacare.
Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 07 2015,14:28
Sure you can. Move out of the country.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,14:34
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Sure you can. Move out of the country.
In and of itself, that incurs a huge financial penalty.
Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 07 2015,17:11
This is true.
Posted by Alhazad on Jul. 07 2015,17:19
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(TPRJones @ Jul. 07 2015,16:16)
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And that's when I tell them to go fuck themselves. My employer pays for my health care and if they don't like what I'm doing then they can fire me. But they aren't going to change me.
I can't fire someone on Obamacare.
Well... you can, if they work for you and give you cause (or live in certain states). Then the burden of insuring falls upon them, I think.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,18:21
(Alhazad @ Jul. 07 2015,19:19)
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(Malcolm @ Jul. 07 2015,14:18)
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(TPRJones @ Jul. 07 2015,16:16)
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And that's when I tell them to go fuck themselves. My employer pays for my health care and if they don't like what I'm doing then they can fire me. But they aren't going to change me.
I can't fire someone on Obamacare.
Well... you can, if they work for you and give you cause (or live in certain states). Then the burden of insuring falls upon them, I think.
Awesome. Now we just need everyone working for me.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2015,10:28
< Diet Pepsi getting > a new sweetener.< Coca-Cola > is getting slammed.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2015,11:07
Listen, Coke is right about our lack of exercise, but fuck them in the goat ass for constantly trying to make their piece of shit product seem healthy or not bad for you. I've seen less evil from insurance companies.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 10 2015,12:08
Yeah, Coke, you're like the cigarette manufacturers and lung cancer at this point.
Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 10 2015,12:22
(Malcolm @ Aug. 10 2015,10:28)
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< Diet Pepsi getting > a new sweetener.
I wonder how long it will be until < this furor > bubbles up again.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 10 2015,13:18
(Alhazad @ Aug. 10 2015,15:22)
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(Malcolm @ Aug. 10 2015,10:28)
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< Diet Pepsi getting > a new sweetener.
I wonder how long it will be until < this furor > bubbles up again.
I wonder how long it will be until < this Fuhrer > bubbles up again.
Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 10 2015,13:50
(TheCatt @ Aug. 10 2015,13:18)
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I wonder how long it will be until < this Fuhrer > bubbles up again.
Oh, he's just as popular as he ever was. Check 4chan.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 17 2016,10:22
< UK > taxes sugary drinks ... well, sort of.QUOTE
Fruit juices and milk-based drinks will be exempt, as will diet sodas.
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 17 2016,10:26
(Malcolm @ Mar. 17 2016,13:22)
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< UK > taxes sugary drinks ... well, sort of.
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Fruit juices and milk-based drinks will be exempt, as will diet sodas.
OF COURSE DIET SODAS ARE EXEMPT YOU FUCKING ARTICLE-WRITING RETARD.
I really don't object to this stuff any more. It's inevitable that I'll be paying for everyone's healthcare here in America too, so we should tax it out the ass as well.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 17 2016,10:32
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It's inevitable that I'll be paying for everyone's healthcare here in America too, so we should tax it out the ass as well.
Hell, no. Then we'll eventually get to a point where we have to discuss a "BBQ tax" then I'll have to hear everyone on this board bitching about the true meaning of the term.