Forum: Internet Links
Topic: No More Tipping
started by: Leisher

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2015,14:52
< Joe's Crab Shack takes the first step. >

I don't know how I feel about this policy.

I'm a bit tipper, so I think it would fuck workers out of additional money, but maybe that average out with bad tippers?

Will they work as hard?

I'll bet that some people will continue to tip and eventually we'll just end up paying more and still have to tip.

Posted by GORDON on Nov. 11 2015,15:17
I think "won't work as hard" is the prime thing.
Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 11 2015,15:28
As long as they get paid enough in salary to make the difference it makes sense, and reportedly workers at these places are happier because their income is steadier.  And studies have shown that quality of service only effects tips by 1% anyway.  Any servers that have realized this would already fall into the postulated not working as hard category if that were a thing.

< Adam Ruins Everything > did a pretty decent video on it.



Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 11 2015,15:29

(GORDON @ Nov. 11 2015,17:17)
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I think "won't work as hard" is the prime thing.

This will likely lead quickly to "won't be employed as long".
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 11 2015,15:47
I Ubered today for the first time.  There is no tipping.  Super nice.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 11 2015,15:49
How long until "social pressure" brings back tipping, anyway?  Ever?  Pizza guys making $15/hour and still spitting on your pie if you are a known bad tipper?


Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2015,15:51
I saw a woman's FB post about this issue and she said, "Where's the motivation to refill drinks or check on a table?"

I was thinking, "Weird. I don't get tips at my job yet I do everything that needs to be done because I take pride in my work and want to stay employed."

What a concept!

Posted by GORDON on Nov. 11 2015,16:13

(Leisher @ Nov. 11 2015,18:51)
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I saw a woman's FB post about this issue and she said, "Where's the motivation to refill drinks or check on a table?"

I was thinking, "Weird. I don't get tips at my job yet I do everything that needs to be done because I take pride in my work and want to stay employed."

What a concept!

Are you suggesting a waiter has the same motivation as an IT manager to do a good job?
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2015,16:36
Yes.
Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 11 2015,16:38
I dunno.  I went to italy, where they don't tip and the service sucked. But,may even everyone sucks at work in Italy.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2015,16:43
Racist.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 11 2015,16:45

(TheCatt @ Nov. 11 2015,19:38)
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I dunno.  I went to italy, where they don't tip and the service sucked. But,may even everyone sucks at work in Italy.

This, except Sicily and France.  Spain and Israel weren't too bad.  But they don't use real money in any of those places so it is hard to know what you are spending.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2015,16:49

(TheCatt @ Nov. 11 2015,18:38)
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I dunno.  I went to italy, where they don't tip and the service sucked. But,may even everyone sucks at work in Italy.

Fuck that country.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 11 2015,17:03

(Malcolm @ Nov. 11 2015,19:49)
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(TheCatt @ Nov. 11 2015,18:38)
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I dunno.  I went to italy, where they don't tip and the service sucked. But,may even everyone sucks at work in Italy.

Fuck that country.

Fuck you.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2015,17:12
In many ways, it's the France of the Mediterranean.  No, I take it back, even France isn't so economically screwed that their debt is more than 100% of their GDP.  I believe they're #2 right after the geniuses in Greece.


Posted by Leisher on Nov. 12 2015,05:22
First of all, Spain was in the #2 slot.

Secondly, haters gonna hate hate hate hate.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 12 2015,06:23

(Leisher @ Nov. 12 2015,08:22)
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First of all, Spain was in the #2 slot.

Secondly, haters gonna hate hate hate hate.

They're all in the same group: PIGS
Portugal Italy Greece Spain

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2015,08:03

(Leisher @ Nov. 12 2015,07:22)
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First of all, Spain was in the #2 slot.

Secondly, haters gonna hate hate hate hate.

< Data > I found says debt as % of GDP in Spain:

97.6% in 2012.

Italy: 134.1% in 2014.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 12 2015,09:41
Who gives a shit about a checkbook?

They fuck and cook better whatever hell hole spawned you.

And if they need money, they'll just protect their neighbor for a small fee.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 12 2015,09:55
Leisher's awfully defensive about Italy for a Mexican.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 12 2015,11:35
I laughed.

Columbia House used to send me envelopes with "Hot Latin Hits" marked on them. Racist bastards.

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