Forum: Internet Links
Topic: Koran older than Muhammad
started by: Malcolm

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 01 2015,10:34
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While the pages are dated between the years 568 AD and 645 AD, though, Muhammad is generally believed to have lived between 570 AD and 632 AD. This means that that pages actually pre-date the man known as "The Prophet."
"It destabilizes, to put it mildly, the idea that we can know anything with certainty about how the Koran emerged," said Tom Holland, a historian, in an interview with Birmingham Mail. "That in turn has implications for the historicity of Muhammad and the Companions (his followers)."

Granted, you're only talking a few years here, but it means there's no way in hell it was written more than a handful of years after his death.  The first books of the New Testament waited at least 70 years after Jesus's death before they started poking up.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 01 2015,13:18
Everyone involved in this discovery will be murdered.
Posted by Alhazad on Sep. 01 2015,22:30

(Leisher @ Sep. 01 2015,13:18)
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Everyone involved in this discovery will be murdered.

Oxygen poisoning strikes again.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 02 2015,06:19
Or it will be completely ignored like how the Morons ignored it when science disproved their tablets or plate or whatever.

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Oxygen poisoning strikes again.


Also, was that a shot at or support for my comment? I honestly read it both ways.



Posted by GORDON on Sep. 02 2015,07:29
Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith, and this discovery suggests Muhammad plagiarized shit.  I think, I only skimmed.  I'm sure Catt will correct me if I am wrong.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2015,07:58
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Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith, and this discovery suggests Muhammad plagiarized shit.

I'll check on the Mormon prime directive but to the other point, if this qualifies as plagiarism then every major religion is stolen.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 02 2015,08:18

(GORDON @ Sep. 02 2015,10:29)
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Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith, and this discovery suggests Muhammad plagiarized shit.  I think, I only skimmed.  I'm sure Catt will correct me if I am wrong.

Do you even read, bro?
Posted by Alhazad on Sep. 02 2015,09:14

(Leisher @ Sep. 02 2015,06:19)
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was that a shot at or support for my comment? I honestly read it both ways.

It was purposefully vague. I didn't agree, though. A few ripples as the Muslim world prepares to ignore it forever seem much more likely.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 02 2015,11:50

(Alhazad @ Sep. 02 2015,12:14)
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(Leisher @ Sep. 02 2015,06:19)
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was that a shot at or support for my comment? I honestly read it both ways.

It was purposefully vague. I didn't agree, though. A few ripples as the Muslim world prepares to ignore it forever seem much more likely.

Was it the peaceful and tolerant way Muslims have responded to slights against their religion in the past that gave you pause?

I don't even need to do the "every other word is a link" thing to back up my point.

I mean, ISIS is currently destroying every bit of history they can get their hands on and murdering historians.

While my statement was meant as humor, it would not shock me if something bad happens to the men/women behind that report.

Posted by Alhazad on Sep. 02 2015,18:58

(Leisher @ Sep. 02 2015,11:50)
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I mean, ISIS is currently destroying every bit of history they can get their hands on and murdering historians.

Right. The crazies are already busy, and the normals don't and never will care.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 02 2015,19:00

(Alhazad @ Sep. 02 2015,21:58)
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(Leisher @ Sep. 02 2015,11:50)
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I mean, ISIS is currently destroying every bit of history they can get their hands on and murdering historians.

Right. The crazies are already busy, and the normals don't and never will care.

Our government is unwilling to do what has to be done to fix it, so why bother caring?  Waste of energy.
Posted by Paul on Sep. 02 2015,21:03

(GORDON @ Sep. 02 2015,10:29)
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Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith...

Yeah they kill for other reasons.
< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre >

Posted by GORDON on Sep. 03 2015,03:51

(Paul @ Sep. 03 2015,00:03)
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(GORDON @ Sep. 02 2015,10:29)
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Yeah but the Mormons didn't have standing orders to kill anyone who disrespects Smith...

Yeah they kill for other reasons.
< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre >

Yeah and 500 years ago muslims invented math or something.
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