Forum: Internet Links
Topic: Unemployment's effects on you
started by: Leisher

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 26 2015,05:57
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I hope they didn't spend a ton of money trying to figure out that not having purpose makes you a worse person.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 26 2015,06:28
Center for Studies of the Obvious...
Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 26 2015,06:28
Nowhere in that article was "purpose" or "sense of purpose" mentioned.

Also,

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[...] 210 were unemployed for one to four years.

The researchers can't say for sure [...]

Though he didn't test the theory, [...]

While the researchers can't say exactly why this happens, [...]

[...] need more data to verify whether that's true [...]


some people should be unemployed, because they do garbage work.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 26 2015,07:06
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Nowhere in that article was "purpose" or "sense of purpose" mentioned.


Yeah, that was my point. Or were you pointing out something?

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some people should be unemployed, because they do garbage work.


Leave the government out of this.

Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 26 2015,07:55

(Leisher @ Aug. 26 2015,09:06)
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Nowhere in that article was "purpose" or "sense of purpose" mentioned.


Yeah, that was my point. Or were you pointing out something?

Okay, now I'm confused.  Leisher, was your point something about employment giving life purpose?  Because if so I would tend to disagree.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 26 2015,11:32

(TPRJones @ Aug. 26 2015,10:55)
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(Leisher @ Aug. 26 2015,09:06)
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Nowhere in that article was "purpose" or "sense of purpose" mentioned.


Yeah, that was my point. Or were you pointing out something?

Okay, now I'm confused.  Leisher, was your point something about employment giving life purpose?  Because if so I would tend to disagree.

Mine was broader. While employment can give one's life purpose, it certainly is not the only factor.

My sense of purpose point was that without one, it's very likely that someone will be miserable or simply unhappy.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2015,12:01
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My sense of purpose point was that without one, it's very likely that someone will be miserable or simply unhappy.

That's all well and good until their sense of purpose makes other people miserable and unhappy.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 26 2015,12:05
Not their problem.
Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 26 2015,14:24

(Leisher @ Aug. 26 2015,11:32)
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My sense of purpose point was that without one, it's very likely that someone will be miserable or simply unhappy.

You're not wrong, but its presence is < probably > < determined > < genetically >.

Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 26 2015,14:26
Can making snarky comments on the internet count as a purpose?
Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 26 2015,14:33

(TPRJones @ Aug. 26 2015,14:26)
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Can making snarky comments on the internet count as a purpose?

Is Malcolm happy?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2015,15:06

(Alhazad @ Aug. 26 2015,16:33)
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(TPRJones @ Aug. 26 2015,14:26)
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Can making snarky comments on the internet count as a purpose?

Is Malcolm happy?

I don't even know what that word means anymore.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 26 2015,15:46

(Alhazad @ Aug. 26 2015,17:33)
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(TPRJones @ Aug. 26 2015,14:26)
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Can making snarky comments on the internet count as a purpose?

Is Malcolm happy?

I always think of snarky as being more pleasant than grumpy.  Like usually more sarcastic.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 26 2015,15:50

(Alhazad @ Aug. 26 2015,17:24)
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(Leisher @ Aug. 26 2015,11:32)
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My sense of purpose point was that without one, it's very likely that someone will be miserable or simply unhappy.

You're not wrong, but its presence is < probably > < determined > < genetically >.

Can you imagine what would happen if someone were to find evidence of genetic behavioral traits in particular races?  Asians/studious, jews/thrifty, blacks/prone to violence?  Genetics would be racist and probably deemed bad and wrong, or, "b'd'ong," as I like to say.
Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 26 2015,16:15

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Can you imagine what would happen if someone were to find evidence of genetic behavioral traits in particular races?  Asians/studious, jews/thrifty, blacks/prone to violence?  Genetics would be racist and probably deemed bad and wrong, or, "b'd'ong," as I like to say.

You mean like Danes being < happier > than everyone else?
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 26 2015,16:16
Racist.
Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 26 2015,16:53
'Danish' isn't a race.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 26 2015,16:54
Racism denier.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2015,17:07

(Alhazad @ Aug. 26 2015,16:24)
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(Leisher @ Aug. 26 2015,11:32)
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My sense of purpose point was that without one, it's very likely that someone will be miserable or simply unhappy.

You're not wrong, but its presence is < probably > < determined > < genetically >.

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However, both stable environmental contributions and emerging genetic influences were indicated.

Genetics + environment.

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Effects of shared environment were weak and nonsignificant. Unique environmental effects for all measures were mostly trait specific.

My sister-in-law's entire family is batshit insane.  They also seem predisposed to seeking out and marrying other batshit insane people.  Except her, she's rather normal.  It's not trait specific, either.  She is across the board more normal and functional than all her immediate relatives.  She even had the same environment for the most part.  The brain simply isn't a deterministic mechanism that can be modeled by genes and external stimuli.  Some fucking weird dynamic factor's missing.

I believe the obvious question is also missing: who the fuck says being happy is that state all humans need to achieve?  If you want eternal happiness, go get a lobotomy.



Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 26 2015,19:03

(Malcolm @ Aug. 26 2015,17:07)
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My sister-in-law's entire family is batshit insane.  They also seem predisposed to seeking out and marrying other batshit insane people.  Except her, she's rather normal.  It's not trait specific, either.  She is across the board more normal and functional than all her immediate relatives.  She even had the same environment for the most part.

Clinically define "batshit insane" and "relatively normal" and sequence their genomes, or else she just goes in the pile with the rest of the data points.

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For both males and females, long-term stability of [subjective well-being] was mainly attributable to stable additive genetic factors, whereas susceptibility to change was mostly related to individual environmental factors. However, both stable environmental contributions and emerging genetic influences were indicated.

The full quote.

Posted by GORDON on Aug. 26 2015,19:59
Genetics are only about 90% of the entire picture.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 26 2015,20:04

(Alhazad @ Aug. 26 2015,21:03)
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(Malcolm @ Aug. 26 2015,17:07)
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My sister-in-law's entire family is batshit insane.  They also seem predisposed to seeking out and marrying other batshit insane people.  Except her, she's rather normal.  It's not trait specific, either.  She is across the board more normal and functional than all her immediate relatives.  She even had the same environment for the most part.

Clinically define "batshit insane" and "relatively normal" and sequence their genomes, or else she just goes in the pile with the rest of the data points.

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For both males and females, long-term stability of [subjective well-being] was mainly attributable to stable additive genetic factors, whereas susceptibility to change was mostly related to individual environmental factors. However, both stable environmental contributions and emerging genetic influences were indicated.

The full quote.

Batshit insane = people you'd normally see on Springer or Maury.  I swear to god I was checking for hidden cameras the first time I met them.

Normal = not batshit insane

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susceptibility to change was mostly related to individual environmental factors

Change isn't all bad.  Change is that which allows someone with a shitty start to get a decent ending.

Posted by Alhazad on Aug. 26 2015,20:09
They don't have to have 100% control to be fucking depressing.

Also, I got that reference.


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