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Forum: Internet Links Topic: Mars started by: Leisher Posted by Leisher on Dec. 02 2014,10:18
< NASA says saddle up because here we come! >
Posted by Vince on Dec. 02 2014,10:45
We'll see. I'll be shocked if any of us live to see that. It's been over 40 years since we've landed on anything out there.
Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 02 2014,11:40
This is a mistake. With our current technology and knowledge Mars is hard. NASA shouldn't do that until after we have a permanent presence either on the moon or in L4 or L5.You have to crawl before you can run. We crawled a little bit 40 years ago. And now we are ready to run a 4k? No. Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2014,11:47
Yeah. Lunar regolith is bad enough. Martian regolith gets kicked into massive dust storms that would fuck your equipment something fierce.
Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 02 2014,12:16
More importantly Mars is so very much further away. We need to get some experience in this century with landing and living on non-terrestrial bodies here in our own backyard before trying to do it a year's distance away.Something goes wrong on the moon and you might be able to pick up any survivors. Something goes wrong on Mars and they're probably going to starve to death or run out of water before you can get back to them. Posted by GORDON on Dec. 02 2014,12:43
(Malcolm @ Dec. 02 2014,14:47) QUOTE Yeah. Lunar regolith is bad enough. Martian regolith gets kicked into massive dust storms that would fuck your equipment something fierce. Yeah, but the air pressure is so low relative to Earth that a 100mph wind does not feel anything like a 100mph wind. And now that I have said it, I am not sure what it has to do with your statement. Posted by GORDON on Dec. 02 2014,12:45
(TPRJones @ Dec. 02 2014,15:16) QUOTE More importantly Mars is so very much further away. We need to get some experience in this century with landing and living on non-terrestrial bodies here in our own backyard before trying to do it a year's distance away. Something goes wrong on the moon and you might be able to pick up any survivors. Something goes wrong on Mars and they're probably going to starve to death or run out of water before you can get back to them. Read a thing recently that suggested take the tech that they want to live in on Mars and drop it in the middle of Antarctica, which has a MUCH more forgiving climate. If they can survive there for 6 months, we are ready to give Mars a shot. Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2014,12:55
Even Antarctica has an atmosphere that'll block some solar death rays.
Posted by Vince on Dec. 02 2014,12:59
Last I'd heard on trying it was admittedly a couple of decades ago. But the issue then was much as Malcolm said...radiation in space. Got to shield from it. At the time they said they needed something to shield as much as a foot of granite. Can we do that now? Without the Granite, I mean?
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2014,14:22
(Vince @ Dec. 02 2014,14:59) QUOTE Last I'd heard on trying it was admittedly a couple of decades ago. But the issue then was much as Malcolm said...radiation in space. Got to shield from it. At the time they said they needed something to shield as much as a foot of granite. Can we do that now? Without the Granite, I mean? Turns out that human waste does a spectacular job. I'm not joking. Posted by GORDON on Dec. 02 2014,14:33
(Malcolm @ Dec. 02 2014,17:22) QUOTE (Vince @ Dec. 02 2014,14:59) QUOTE Last I'd heard on trying it was admittedly a couple of decades ago. But the issue then was much as Malcolm said...radiation in space. Got to shield from it. At the time they said they needed something to shield as much as a foot of granite. Can we do that now? Without the Granite, I mean? Turns out that human waste does a spectacular job. I'm not joking. Yeah, I heard they would have a huddle room in the middle of the ship surrounded by their water and waste supply for the solar storms. Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 02 2014,15:13
(GORDON @ Dec. 02 2014,16:33) QUOTE (Malcolm @ Dec. 02 2014,17:22) QUOTE (Vince @ Dec. 02 2014,14:59) QUOTE Last I'd heard on trying it was admittedly a couple of decades ago. But the issue then was much as Malcolm said...radiation in space. Got to shield from it. At the time they said they needed something to shield as much as a foot of granite. Can we do that now? Without the Granite, I mean? Turns out that human waste does a spectacular job. I'm not joking. Yeah, I heard they would have a huddle room in the middle of the ship surrounded by their water and waste supply for the solar storms. You have to assume that what all the aliens have been probing things for, raw material for radiation shields. Posted by Vince on Dec. 02 2014,16:25
I always wondered why beings with the technology to travel from another star system couldn't come up with a damned MRI machine.
Posted by Leisher on Dec. 02 2014,17:48
Where's the fun in an MRI machine? Where's the romance?
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 19 2015,10:40
< NASA > being a dick. When's the last time you sent men to the moon, dipshits? If we wait for your asses, we might get to Mars by the time the rest of the planet transforms into the Star Children at the end of 2001.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 19 2015,13:18
Childhood's End?
Posted by Malcolm on May 05 2015,10:32
Wtf?NASA: < We can totally go to Mars >. NASA: Dude, can you help us shield the < 'nauts from radiation >? Posted by Vince on May 05 2015,10:46
Heh... Vox.
Posted by GORDON on May 05 2015,10:54
Probably a hundred sci-fi writers have addressed this in the last few decades.
Posted by Troy on May 05 2015,11:13
Do we have a thread for the EMDrive yet? The possibility of real warp drive tech is so cool.
Posted by TPRJones on May 05 2015,11:39
Easy. Make your outer hull into a thin water tank. Inside that is a similar but smaller "hull tank" for shit. Don't dump the shit overboard, stuff it into the inner tank to stop radiation when the water tank is too empty.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2015,10:42
< Woman spotted. >< Space crab. > Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2015,06:49
< Peeps see all kinds of stuff on Mars. >Some of those objects are interesting enough to warrant further examination, like the pyramid rock, but if there was life I'm sure it would have been more obviously discovered. I do not believe NASA would cover up a species of iguanas living on Mars. Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,07:36
(Leisher @ Aug. 31 2015,08:49) QUOTE I do not believe NASA would cover up a species of iguanas living on Mars. Their funding would skyrocket if they found anything that hinted of remotely complex alien life. Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 31 2015,09:40
If we didn't have pareidolia there'd be none of this sort of nonsense. We'd also do away with ghosts, witchcraft, UFOs, etc.But then there'd also be much less art, no such thing as cartoons, and no religions. So some people might consider it a net loss. Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2015,09:59
Losing all of that would be a net loss. All that stuff makes for awesome entertainment.
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 31 2015,10:02
I think there's a reasonable high chance that without the tendency towards pareidolia we'd also not have much in the way of curiosity or a desire for entertainment. I think that at the very root of all of these is our tendency to seek patterns in the world around us even when they aren't there.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 31 2015,10:09
QUOTE no such thing as cartoons You can pry my cartoons from my cold, dead hands. Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2015,10:05
Merge
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2015,10:06
< Mars >, wetter than your mom after an all-night CHIPs marathon.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 28 2015,11:07
Merged.
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