Forum: Internet Links
Topic: chronological versus biological age
started by: Malcolm

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,10:35
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Posted by GORDON on Jul. 07 2015,10:39
I got my first gray hair at 22.  Got lots more now.  I just hope to get my kid out of college before I croak.
Posted by Vince on Jul. 07 2015,10:47
Ha!  Like 80% of the population will be able to afford college by the time your kid hits 18.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,10:49

(Vince @ Jul. 07 2015,12:47)
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Ha!  Like 80% of the population will be able to afford college by the time your kid hits 18.

We were talking about that shit at work last week.  My argument was that it'll get harder to get a decent job without a degree, in spite of the degrees becoming more worthless and expensive at the same time.



Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 07 2015,11:16
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My argument was that it'll get harder to get a decent job without a degree, in spite of the degrees becoming more worthless and expensive at the same time.

I would stipulate that this will only be true at large companies and corporations that run primarily off of bureaucratic inertia.  At smaller and better companies they won't give two craps about the degree, they'll want to see a portfolio showcasing your expertise.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,11:22

(TPRJones @ Jul. 07 2015,13:16)
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My argument was that it'll get harder to get a decent job without a degree, in spite of the degrees becoming more worthless and expensive at the same time.

I would stipulate that this will only be true at large companies and corporations that run primarily off of bureaucratic inertia.  At smaller and better companies they won't give two craps about the degree, they'll want to see a portfolio showcasing your expertise.

Those small companies will put a useless degree on the same level as a meaningful portfolio.  The big companies will create surplus workers who'll flood the jobs at the smaller joints.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 07 2015,11:31

(Malcolm @ Jul. 07 2015,14:22)
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(TPRJones @ Jul. 07 2015,13:16)
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My argument was that it'll get harder to get a decent job without a degree, in spite of the degrees becoming more worthless and expensive at the same time.

I would stipulate that this will only be true at large companies and corporations that run primarily off of bureaucratic inertia.  At smaller and better companies they won't give two craps about the degree, they'll want to see a portfolio showcasing your expertise.

Those small companies will put a useless degree on the same level as a meaningful portfolio.  The big companies will create surplus workers who'll flood the jobs at the smaller joints.

Not always true.

In IT departments, if HR isn't doing the hiring certificates are more important than degrees.

But yeah, it's yet another issue in our country that degrees are so important despite the fact that we know the entire college system is about as legit as banking and insurance at this point. Yes, it serves a function, but most people are just getting fucked.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,11:33
Big companies are "successful."  The majority of sheep managers will follow suit and try to hire the same type of worker as the big places, just in smaller volumes.
Posted by Leisher on Jul. 07 2015,11:55
My little company is pretty successful and actively try to avoid corporate bullshit. We hire based on merit. A degree is nice, but it's not the end all be all.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 07 2015,12:34

(Malcolm @ Jul. 07 2015,13:49)
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(Vince @ Jul. 07 2015,12:47)
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Ha!  Like 80% of the population will be able to afford college by the time your kid hits 18.

We were talking about that shit at work last week.  My argument was that it'll get harder to get a decent job without a degree, in spite of the degrees becoming more worthless and expensive at the same time.

That problem all lies in the fact that it's the people with degrees making the hiring decisions, and they want to support their fantasy that degrees = competence.
Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 07 2015,12:55
A small company doesn't have the luxury to be as stupid and wasteful with their payroll dollars as a big company.  If they do they don't stay in business very long.
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 07 2015,12:56
I did a kickstarter thing for a company that was going to measure my telomeres.

So far they've delayed twice.  So... who knows.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,13:00

(TPRJones @ Jul. 07 2015,14:55)
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A small company doesn't have the luxury to be as stupid and wasteful with their payroll dollars as a big company.  If they do they don't stay in business very long.

The small places I've worked for all have some bottleneck of stupidity eventually somewhere.  It's less stupidity overall compared to a large corporation, but all it takes is one idiot in the wrong position and a huge number of people get fucked.
Posted by Alhazad on Jul. 07 2015,13:33
I've been thinking a little lately about how neither your chronological nor biological age are actually your age.

For example, "I" don't exist prior to daycare, since my first memory is of some bitch trying to make me drink milk despite an allergy.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,14:06
Then there's the other shit that factors in.  Physical age, mental age, etc.  Chronological seems most useless and arbitrary of all.  If it weren't for ease of measurement, we'd probably disregard it except for birthdays.


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