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Topic: What colors do you see?
started by: TheCatt

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 26 2015,19:20

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 26 2015,19:21

Post what colors that dress is.

After you post, check < this link, > and tell me what you see in the original picture.

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 26 2015,19:31

I see black and blue here.

At the link I see the same blue on the right and a deeper less-faded blue on the left.

Why?

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 26 2015,19:39

I originally saw white and gold.

then I saw the 2nd photo, now I can only see black and blue.

But then I saw < this > and it was white and gold again.

But then I looked at the cropped one above, and it's black and blue again.

< Then I found this >

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 26 2015,19:47

That picture wins at internet, today. Has to be the most shared thing since the Fappening.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 26 2015,19:47

I see light blue and a brownish-gold.

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 26 2015,19:48

(Leisher @ Feb. 26 2015,22:47)

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I see light blue and a brownish-gold.

That's what my photoshop color sampler says, too.

Looks white/gold to me.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 26 2015,19:50

(TheCatt @ Feb. 26 2015,21:39)

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Same as catt, except my brain seem to randomize between the two after couple cycles. Shit, if I stare at it for more than a few seconds, it seems to wash between the two. Freaky, yet awesome.

Posted by Troy on Feb. 26 2015,20:01

Blue and black in each picture i see, multiple views. No idea on this one. Does what you view it on matter?

Posted by Troy on Feb. 26 2015,20:03

Poked the wife awake. She saw white and gold immediately. Woah.

Also she wasn't happy about the disturbance.

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 26 2015,20:13

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Looks white/gold to me.

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Same as catt, except my brain seem to randomize between the two after couple cycles.

Wut? Wut. I've looked at every picture multiple times and the only conclusion I can reach is that many people are colorblind or something. I cannot see it as anything but blue and black. I can't conceive of how it could be legitimately perceived in any of these pictures as anything but blue and black. I read the article and thought there must be a lot of people pulling some sort of mass trolling, then read the rest of this thread and now I don't know what is wrong with all you people.

So confused.

Posted by Troy on Feb. 26 2015,20:17

Woke her back up and started an actual straight up fight for this one. Black and blue for life, bitches. Also what tpr said.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 26 2015,20:19

(TPRJones @ Feb. 26 2015,23:13)

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Looks white/gold to me.

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Same as catt, except my brain seem to randomize between the two after couple cycles.

The color on people's monitors is fucked.

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 26 2015,20:21

I thought of that and started playing with my settings. I can make the blue and the black lighter or darker, and I can screw with the color enough to make the blue purple or greenish, but I can't get anything close to white and gold out of it. That can't be it.

I can't even begin to guess which part is supposed to be sometimes gold and which is supposed to be sometimes white. Does the blue turn to gold and the black turn to white? Or is it the other way around?

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 26 2015,20:32

Okay, I took the file and inverted the colors and the result is absolutely white and gold. See:

So that's maybe somehow related to this phenomenon. So you can see both at once here's the original again:

Posted by Troy on Feb. 26 2015,20:36

This was an "inferior" human test. So sad that so many failed and were found wanting. Buzfeed has the original dress from a wedding in scotland. Very blue and black.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 26 2015,20:40

Yeah, it was just freaky because the first time I saw it, I saw gold and white, and didn't think anything of it. Then I saw the full photo... black and blue. And looking at it, my eyes can just switch between them, almost at will. It's freaky.

TPR - The parts that are gold in your inverted picture, are what show up as white. The black parts become the gold. Click the buzzfeed article I linked in the original, and you'll see how someone color corrected it to the white/gold.

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 26 2015,20:41

(Troy @ Feb. 26 2015,23:36)

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This was an "inferior" human test. So sad that so many failed and were found wanting. Buzfeed has the original dress from a wedding in scotland. Very blue and black.

I can show you a picture of an American flag that is actually nothing but shades of gray.

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 26 2015,20:41

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I saw gold and white

I think you should ask for a refund for your eyes, they are broken.

Oh, and I had already forgotten about the doctored pic in the buzzfeed article. Here's another thing I don't get. That picture right below it labeled "but then again, you can correct the photo in other ways and come to an entirely different conclusion" looks exactly like the original to me. Just a little darker.

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 26 2015,20:43

(TPRJones @ Feb. 26 2015,23:41)

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I saw gold and white

I think you should ask for a refund for your eyes, they are broken.

I straight up color sampled in paintshop. There was no black in it. There were some light shades of blue in one of the pics. Someone color adjusted the pictures.

Posted by Troy on Feb. 26 2015,20:43

Posting from the couch, went down with the ship

E: helluva vague sniper post

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 26 2015,20:44

Honeymoon's over.

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 26 2015,20:46

(GORDON @ Feb. 26 2015,22:43)

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I straight up color sampled in paintshop. There was no black in it. There were some light shades of blue in one of the pics. Someone color adjusted the pictures.

When I opened the original pic up in mspaint to try to invert it I also did color sampling. There was black that was not a very dark black and blue. There was no white or gold anywhere in that dress according to mspaint.

If what you say is true, this just makes it more confusing.

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 26 2015,20:48

I only sampled the pic that looked brighter to me, so there are at least 2 floating around. Even that one said the "white" was a light blue, but the gold was, at darkest, a light brown.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,06:14

< xkcd >

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,06:18

< Celebrities >

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 27 2015,06:26

< Here comes the science. >

That's a good article with pictures of it in different scales, and they show the Photoshop stuff Gordo did.

I still see light blue/brownish gold on the original picture.

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 27 2015,06:29

< xkcd >

Still can only see blue and black here.

< Celebrities >
Ah! When I opened this link there was a momentary flash where my brain said white and gold. But then it instantly said, no, that's wrong, it's just because of the blue colored images on either side that you saw that, it is clearly blue and black. EDIT: The image attached to the article has been changed, so the above does not apply to the image now shown there.

At least now I can understand where it comes from, though ... sort of. I still can't imagine how you would see it that way unless it was surrounded by tons of dark blue.

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 27 2015,06:34

(Leisher @ Feb. 27 2015,08:26)

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< Here comes the science. >

The thing is, in the pictures at the top where it says "white-balanced as if the dress is white-gold" I still only can see what looks like a badly desaturated and brightened picture of a dress that is clearly blue and black.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,06:56

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 27 2015,07:15

(Leisher @ Feb. 27 2015,09:26)

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< Here comes the science. >

That's a good article with pictures of it in different scales, and they show the Photoshop stuff Gordo did.

I still see light blue/brownish gold on the original picture.

This article has 3 pics of the dress, and each one looks different colors to me, so obvious photo manip has been done, somewhere. I was color sampling the white/gold one, but I can also see the black/blue in the other pic and I am sure color sampling would have seen black/blue in that one.

Still weird that 2 people together would look at the same pic and see different colors though.

Posted by Leisher on Feb. 27 2015,07:26

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This article has 3 pics of the dress, and each one looks different colors to me, so obvious photo manip has been done, somewhere.

You didn't read the article. They did manipulate the photos to show what others were seeing and why.

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 27 2015,07:28

I was seeing 2 different versions yesterday, though, just not the blatant blue and black.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,08:38

(Troy @ Feb. 26 2015,23:43)

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Posting from the couch, went down with the ship

E: helluva vague sniper post

I'm speechless.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,09:01

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,10:44

< Company that sells it will make a white and gold version >

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,11:35

Posted by Vince on Feb. 27 2015,14:57

(TPRJones @ Feb. 27 2015,08:34)

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(Leisher @ Feb. 27 2015,08:26)

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< Here comes the science. >

This was my experience as well. But then again I mess with light saturated pictures from my trail cams all the time when the sun's pointing into them the wrong way and have kind of learned to recognize that and filter it out.

Do you do a lot of photography? Or some measure of photography other than stuff you've pulled off the Internet?

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 27 2015,16:35

Wife: "I just saw a picture with really poor white balance and lighting"

She's a photographer.

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 27 2015,19:09

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Do you do a lot of photography?

Nope. But I did watch a lot of scrambled porn when I was young. Maybe that helped.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 28 2015,09:11

< Just for catt >.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 28 2015,12:01

For the record, of course, the dress is probably not blue, nor black, nor gold, nor white. Those are just the colors we perceive being reflected back at us.

Which I'm slightly surprised ngt didn't bring up.

Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 01 2015,19:47

Now that's a bit pedantic of you. Without accepting that as a basic part of their meaning, then the words for colors have no meaning left.

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 02 2015,05:27

(TPRJones @ Mar. 01 2015,22:47)

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Now that's a bit pedantic of you. Without accepting that as a basic part of their meaning, then the words for colors have no meaning left.

But if we truly want to know what color a thing is, how can we? 10% of people are color-blind, other species can see frequencies that we cannot see. At any rate, I agree with you, I just brought it up cuz it seemed relevant.

We watched a Brain Games about color perception this weekend, my daughters:

Youngest: Mommy, they said a stop sign wasn't red. But they're wrong.

Oldest: Ugh! We just see what colors are reflected, we don't really know what color it is!

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 02 2015,08:12

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...other species can see frequencies that we cannot see.

< One of my favourites >.

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It is the only organism known to simultaneously detect the four linear and two circular polarization components required for Stokes parameters, which yield a full description of polarization. It is thus believed to have optimal polarization vision.

Posted by GORDON on Mar. 02 2015,09:35

I like how lots of flowers have ultraviolet landing strips on their petals that only bees can see.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 02 2015,10:58

Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 02 2015,21:26

The dress is still black and blue.

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2015,07:32

Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 04 2015,16:29

Posted by Leisher on Mar. 05 2015,10:17

Posted by Vince on Mar. 06 2015,10:13

< Smart PSA type campaign. >