Forum: Internet Links
Topic: cops being dicks
started by: Malcolm

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 05 2014,10:29
< Legal > for motorists to flash lights.
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An officer saw the flash and pulled over Elli, who could have faced a fine of up to $1,000 if convicted. Elli, was accused of "[f]lashing lights on certain vehicles . . . warning of RADAR ahead,"

Serving and protecting.  The fact it took a federal judge to confirm this is appalling.

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 05 2014,13:08
Thing is, I remember this exact situation 10 or 15 years ago, and a judge then also said it was free speech.
Posted by Paul on Feb. 07 2014,11:46

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,11:16
< Cop pummels woman >.
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The CHP has said the officer was trying to keep the woman from walking into traffic. CHP logs state that she ignored commands and became "physically combative."

But Pinnock said in an interview last month that she did nothing to provoke the officer. Pinnock said she was walking to a place to sleep that night when the officer came up behind her. She said that as she then screamed, he "pulled me back and threw me on the ground."


< Cops shoots dude > during seatbelt stop.
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Later on the recording, Jones said he was just reaching into his vehicle for his identification after the trooper pulled up without his siren on. What appears to be his wallet can be seen flying through the air as Groubert fires four shots within seconds after confronting Jones.

Groubert's lawyer, Barney Giese, said the shooting was justified because the trooper feared for his life and the safety of others. But prosecutors and Groubert's boss disagreed.

The 31-year-old officer was charged with felony assault and fired less than three weeks after the Sept. 4 traffic stop.


< Cops shoves pregnant woman > to the ground.

Good to know the standards for law enforcement aren't slipping.



Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 25 2014,14:15
You know how you don't get beat up by the police?  Don't break the law.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,14:40

(Cakedaddy @ Sep. 25 2014,16:15)
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You know how you don't get beat up by the police?  Don't break the law.

The law is pretty fucking subjective apparently.  Guess a seatbelt stop deserves a bullet.  Or a suplex on concrete.  Do I get to shoot cops when they run red lights?
Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 25 2014,15:42
Yep.  She was just standing there.  Doing nothing.  Off to the side bystander.  In fact, probably just walking home from church.  Cop just went into Hulk rage mode and randomly grabbed her and 'suplexed' her.  Totally random.  Totally out of the blue.  She's minding her own business and BOOM, cop tackle for no reason what so ever.  And it was a total purposeful take down.  It's not like she was struggling and he was trying to corral her back under control and she tripped and lost her balance or anything.  He grabber her in a bear hug, picked her up and slammed her to the ground Hulk Hogan style.  Completely controlled take down and everything played out exactly as planned.  He took one look at that random person that was in the area and decided "I'm taking her down suplex style".
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,16:40
I'm waiting for you to explain the dude that got shot in the hip.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 25 2014,18:42

(Cakedaddy @ Sep. 25 2014,18:42)
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Yep.  She was just standing there.  Doing nothing.  Off to the side bystander.  In fact, probably just walking home from church.  Cop just went into Hulk rage mode and randomly grabbed her and 'suplexed' her.  Totally random.  Totally out of the blue.  She's minding her own business and BOOM, cop tackle for no reason what so ever.  And it was a total purposeful take down.  It's not like she was struggling and he was trying to corral her back under control and she tripped and lost her balance or anything.  He grabber her in a bear hug, picked her up and slammed her to the ground Hulk Hogan style.  Completely controlled take down and everything played out exactly as planned.  He took one look at that random person that was in the area and decided "I'm taking her down suplex style".

even Leisher agrees there are bad cops out there.... this makes me think I would rather shoot you and call it self defense than ever see you wearing a badge.
Posted by Vince on Sep. 26 2014,03:39

(Cakedaddy @ Sep. 25 2014,17:42)
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Yep.  She was just standing there.  Doing nothing.  Off to the side bystander.  In fact, probably just walking home from church.  Cop just went into Hulk rage mode and randomly grabbed her and 'suplexed' her.  Totally random.  Totally out of the blue.  She's minding her own business and BOOM, cop tackle for no reason what so ever.  And it was a total purposeful take down.  It's not like she was struggling and he was trying to corral her back under control and she tripped and lost her balance or anything.  He grabber her in a bear hug, picked her up and slammed her to the ground Hulk Hogan style.  Completely controlled take down and everything played out exactly as planned.  He took one look at that random person that was in the area and decided "I'm taking her down suplex style".

I saw the pics of the cops wailing on the woman that was trying to walk into traffic.  I'm not saying that she did nothing wrong.  I don't know what all happened on that one, but it's hard to justify what was on film.  Especially when your reasoning is, "I was trying to stop her from getting hurt."

Just really bad optics on that one.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 26 2014,11:08

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2014,19:40)
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I'm waiting for you to explain the dude that got shot in the hip.

No you're not.  You don't wait for an explanation for anything.  You just jump on the "Fuck the Police" bandwagon because some of them took your weed.

Gordon, of course there are bad cops.  And there are good cops that make bad decisions, both at the detriment of those they are helping, and of themselves.  But to constantly categorize all police as gangster thugs out to fuck shit up just makes people look stupid.

To celebrate the pain and/or suffering of someone, that on another day would be putting their lives on the line for someone, is fucked up.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,11:33
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You just jump on the "Fuck the Police" bandwagon because some of them took your weed.

Let's ignore the other first-hand experiences I've had with them over the years, too.  We'll also ignore the fact they lied on my arrest report.  Must be nice to have a job where you can lie and not have anything bad happen because of it.  Or where you can selectively apply the law with little to no oversight.

Let's also ignore the times I've been in the car with my buddies who've been pulled over for DWB.  Swerving in the lane, my ass.  I'll also ignore the times that I was around when violent crimes have been happening and watched the cops show up 30 minutes after the fact.  Probably because they had to divert officers away from their fucking speed traps and hunts for non-violent drug offenders.

But yeah, this is all about the $10 worth drugs they got from me.  Just like downloading TV shows and movies off the internet is all about money.



Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 26 2014,12:01
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To celebrate the pain and/or suffering of someone, that on another day would be putting their lives on the line for someone, is fucked up.

That would be true if the particular cops in question would be likely to do that.  But I don't think the shitty cops are, really.  If they actually cared that much, they wouldn't be shitty cops in the first place.

These aren't real cops we are talking about, they're petty thuggish bureaucrats with guns.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,12:12
I have zero respect or sympathy for any of the cops I've dealt with in the recent past.  They knowingly went into a job where the description requires them or their compatriots to be dicks to the general population for worthless, retarded "criminal" offenses.  They don't protect anyone.  They don't serve anyone.  Their job is to criminalize as much of the population as they can, so the douchebags who write the laws can look tough on crime, get reelected, and fill the county coffers.  I might cut them slack if they'd been pressed or conscripted into service.

The nicest consideration I've ever gotten from an officer of the law would be the two times they let me off with a warning for speeding instead of writing a ticket.  Probably because they had some non-violent drug offenders to harass.

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To celebrate the pain and/or suffering of someone ... is fucked up.

How about the pain and suffering of the dude that GOT SHOT?  He was reaching for his fucking wallet, which is something you do a traffic stop.



Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 26 2014,12:40

(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2014,14:33)
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We'll also ignore the fact they lied on my arrest report.  Must be nice to have a job where you can lie and not have anything bad happen because of it.  

Can you prove they lied?  Cuz I'm pretty sure there are repercussions for that.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,12:49

(TheCatt @ Sep. 26 2014,14:40)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2014,14:33)
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We'll also ignore the fact they lied on my arrest report.  Must be nice to have a job where you can lie and not have anything bad happen because of it.  

Can you prove they lied?  Cuz I'm pretty sure there are repercussions for that.

From what the lawyer says, the number they write down on the arrest report doesn't require any kind of measuring device to be used.  They have to send it off to a lab to be cataloged because using a fucking scale and reading a number are skills beyond the mental capabilities of the cops in that town.  I'm waiting on those numbers.  Also, as long as the amount is under a magic number, Iowa treats it all as equal.  A trace amount warrants precisely the same penalty as half a fucking ounce.  It doesn't matter what fucking number they put down.  Anarchy didn't even have a digit on his, it just said "less than 1g."  That's another way of saying, "A quantity so fucking tiny, we're not even going to bother bullshitting a number because the actual scales might not go that low."  They put down at least triple what I had.  Mohawk's multiplier was bigger, probably x5-7.



Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 26 2014,15:45

(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2014,15:12)
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I have zero respect or sympathy for any of the cops I've dealt with in the recent past.  They knowingly went into a job where the description requires them or their compatriots to be dicks to the general population for worthless, retarded "criminal" offenses.  They don't protect anyone.  They don't serve anyone.  Their job is to criminalize as much of the population as they can, so the douchebags who write the laws can look tough on crime, get reelected, and fill the county coffers.  I might cut them slack if they'd been pressed or conscripted into service.

The nicest consideration I've ever gotten from an officer of the law would be the two times they let me off with a warning for speeding instead of writing a ticket.  Probably because they had some non-violent drug offenders to harass.

I dunno.  I can only say that I've never broken the law and got caught (except for speeding) and I've never had a bad run in with the police.  Should I be mad at them for writing me a ticket?  It sucks, but it's my fault.  You have nothing but bad experiences with cops.  And, you seem to think you should be able to break laws, and the cops should ignore it.  Like, having weed that you deem below an amount to care about.  You had weed.  It's illegal.  Now deal with it.  Know how to not be mad at the cop for lying about your weed and busting you with it?  Don't have it.  Don't want to have to go to jail for weed?  Change the laws.

I dunno.  I was going to say "None of that even deserves a response" because it was so stupid.  Such an ignorant summary of a cop.  Can't argue when things go that crazy.

The cop that shot the guy.  Lets go over that I guess.  It's all pretty obvious to me though.  The guy was out of his car.  Who get's out of their car during a stop?  He's out of his car and reaching in for something.  Again, who does that?  This is a 'walking in a dark alley in Detroit at night waving cash' scenario.  No, the cop shouldn't have shot him.  And, he's being dealt with.  The cop was wrong.  Just like the article said.  But what the fuck was the victim thinking?  Fucking duh.  Again, know how you don't get shot by the police?  Don't get out of your car during a stop and then reach for shit.  Sit in your car with your hands on the wheel and wait for instructions.  These guys get shot at every day.  We've seen the youtube videos.  Of course they are on edge.  Of course they have to be cautious.  Cut them some fucking slack.  But you won't.  Because weed is illegal.  Fuck the police.

Posted by GORDON on Sep. 26 2014,15:59

(Cakedaddy @ Sep. 26 2014,14:08)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2014,19:40)
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I'm waiting for you to explain the dude that got shot in the hip.

No you're not.  You don't wait for an explanation for anything.  You just jump on the "Fuck the Police" bandwagon because some of them took your weed.

Gordon, of course there are bad cops.  And there are good cops that make bad decisions, both at the detriment of those they are helping, and of themselves.  But to constantly categorize all police as gangster thugs out to fuck shit up just makes people look stupid.

To celebrate the pain and/or suffering of someone, that on another day would be putting their lives on the line for someone, is fucked up.

I don't know how to cut and paste on my phone, but to address your comment to me: I think only a small percentage of cops actively act like thugs, but I think a majority are willing to close ranks around the bad ones on order to not be the "rat.". This makes them all dirty, as far as I am concerned. Agree or disagree?
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,16:07
< No precedent for that sort of thing >.  Certainly doesn't continue in < modern times >.


Posted by GORDON on Sep. 26 2014,16:11
As I said.

I think cops should be held to a higher standard.  When they fuck up, criticism should be harsh.



Posted by GORDON on Sep. 26 2014,19:06
< She's just mad because the cops took away her spoon. >

Right?

Don't want to spend a month in jail then don't have a spaghetti spoon in your car.  It's just that easy.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,20:28
I defer to Ron White's take on being arrested in Florida for possession in the other thread.

As for me, I defer to this:
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Fourthly. That in article 2nd, section 9, between clauses 3 and 4, be inserted these clauses, to wit, The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience by in any manner, or on any pretext infringed.
The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable.
The people shall not be restrained from peaceably assembling and consulting for their common good, nor from applying to the legislature by petitions, or remonstrances for redress of their grievances.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person.
No soldier shall in time of peace be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner; nor at any time, but in a manner warranted by law.
No person shall be subject, except in cases of impeachment, to more than one punishment, or one trial for the same office; nor shall be compelled to be a witness against himself; nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor be obliged to relinquish his property, where it may be necessary for public use, without a just compensation.
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
The rights of the people to be secured in their persons, their houses, their papers, and their other property from all unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated by warrants issued without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, or not particularly describing the places to be searched, or the persons or things to be seized.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, to be informed of the cause and nature of the accusation, to be confronted with his accusers, and the witnesses against him; to have a compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
The exceptions here or elsewhere in the constitution, made in favor of particular rights, shall not be so construed as to diminish the just importance of other rights retained by the people; or as to enlarge the powers delegated by the constitution; but either as actual limitations of such powers, or as inserted merely for greater caution.

$1000 and up to a month in jail on top of $1500 in bail.  Eat a dick, Iowa, along with every other state in < grey or cornflower blue >.  Eat a bag of dicks, jackassholes.  Eh, maybe cornflower can eat half a bag.  We weren't smoking in the car (and in fact did not ever in that fucking godforsaken state), no one was operating a motor vehicle in an impaired state (maybe hungover), no one was muling a couple kilos across states lines, no one was attempting to sell or distribute.  Fucking $20 worth.  Maybe, MAYBE 1g among us.  Please fucking tell me what public safety issue was at stake.  We wanted to get two things in that town: (i) pizza and (ii) the fuck out.  That penalty for possession of a plant is goddamned absurd and excessive.  I can't imagine how pathetic, scared, pandering, vote-chasing, and douchey in general a legislature has to be to pass that law.  I can't fathom how thick, dense, impenetrable, blind, slow, and in the back pocket of a politician that a judge must be to uphold such a law.  I am unable to process how a prosecutor could be so overzealous, spineless, cowardly, frothing at the mouth to convict someone, and in general dickless
...

... to indict someone over such a bullshit law.  But what shocks me most is the frontliners, the blues, that have numbed the common sense part of their brain which should have them asking, "What the fuck is this doing to serve public safety?"  Fuck the law's worth just because it is or has been a law.  I can give you example after example of batshit insane laws throughout the ages.  I want to know precisely what in the fuck this process is doing besides injecting cash into that shitty town and county's bank accounts and boosting the quotas for some unbelievably misguided pricks who tossed a dude in jail for driving with a fucking goddamn suspended license and someone else for supplying booze to a minor.  What in the fuck?  This isn't doing anything for the safety of that town's residents.  They are meaningless arrests designed to drum up income through fines and make some lazy, incompetent, greedy fucking assholes look like they're doing something to justify the budgets they're getting.

I used to think defense lawyers were evil.  They're the fucking holy soldiers of light compared to the people in the positions I've mentioned above, who decidedly do not have my best interests in mind, nor the best interests of the people they allegedly protect or represent.  They're out for their best interests and those of their bosses, all the way up the chain to the useless, scared, old fuckwits who write the laws.  At least the defense lawyers are for sale to everyone instead of a select group of people who have the ability to bribe anyone from a Congressman all the way down to a flatfoot.  Affluenza, baby.  Fucking disease.



Posted by Vince on Sep. 27 2014,02:56

(GORDON @ Sep. 26 2014,21:06)
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< She's just mad because the cops took away her spoon. >

Right?

Don't want to spend a month in jail then don't have a spaghetti spoon in your car.  It's just that easy.

The article said the police were acting in good faith... I really would need to know what made them think she was cooking meth besides the spoon before I could even give them the benefit of the doubt on that statement.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 27 2014,10:54
Ok.  You guys have convinced me.  Cops are evil dicks.  I hate them all now too.  Fuck the police.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 27 2014,11:15
You are ignoring my specific question directed at you.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 27 2014,12:14
No.  I don't think that makes them all dirty.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 27 2014,12:15
Wait a minute.  Yes I do!!  FUCK THE POLICE!!
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 27 2014,13:03

(Cakedaddy @ Sep. 27 2014,15:14)
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No.  I don't think that makes them all dirty.

Well I disagree. I think any cop that ignores crimes of other cops is a criminal, and I think the majority do it.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 27 2014,15:22
I could probably name a couple of other large 'brotherhood' like organizations that cover for their own as well.

I just know that I hope all cops die now.  They deserve it.

Posted by GORDON on Sep. 28 2014,08:48
You could probably name them, but it doesn't mean you would be correct.

Be sure to smile and say yes sir to the next cop who pulls you over for speeding.  If he doesn't like your attitude something bad, yet perfectly legal, might happen.



Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 28 2014,17:57
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I could probably name a couple of other large 'brotherhood' like organizations that cover for their own as well.

Are the members of those organizations you have in mind also allowed to shoot you dead by mistake as part of their job and then be protected from any repercussions?



Posted by Vince on Sep. 28 2014,18:31
I don't think I have as much of a hard on against the police as most here, but the readiness of most of them to circle the wagons bothers me.  I think they should be the FIRST to demand that the bad ones get drummed out.  I think that they should hold the honor they are bestowed with with the utmost respect for that responsibility.  I don't think enough of them do.

That being said, I think you generally run into fewer problems with sheriff's departments since the sheriff is directly elected and there are a lot less bureaucratic politics to deal with.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Sep. 28 2014,18:44

(TPRJones @ Sep. 28 2014,20:57)
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I could probably name a couple of other large 'brotherhood' like organizations that cover for their own as well.

Are the members of those organizations you have in mind also allowed to shoot you dead by mistake as part of their job and then be protected from any repercussions?

Yes.  In fact, their job IS to kill people.  But, they don't always kill the right people.
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 29 2014,08:46
Oh, no, I would consider SWAT teams to be part of the police.  I know they're sort of separate, but it's all the same authority base.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 01 2014,11:10
< Cop tazes > 62-year old woman.  In the back.
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In an arrest affidavit obtained by WCTV, Mahan wrote that he was attempting to arrest Young because she allegedly "obstructed officers while in the course of completing their legal duties."
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In the video, which was posted Tuesday on the website YouTube, 62-year-old Viola Young can be seen approaching officers who had arrested three people and put them in squad cars.

An officer told Young to stay back, and in the video she appeared to be walking away when officer Terry Mahan approached and grabbed her left arm. Young can be seen pulling her arm away, turning around and walking several steps before the officer fired his stun gun, striking her in the back.

But hey, let's remember this is a dude who has his life on the line on a daily basis.  He should be allowed to stun whomever he chooses to at his discretion.  Near-retirees are leading cause of death for cops on the beat.

What were the cops doing there?
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The Tallahassee Police Department says the officers were in the area to check out recent complaints of drug deals, according to WCTV.

Of course.  Double fuck them.



Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 01 2014,11:18
Clearly she was fleeing the scene of the incident and had to be stopped.

Those 62 year old women can run fast.  Only thing they could have done or she'd have gotten away.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 01 2014,11:23
She must have had a bad attitude or something.  Whatever it was, it was illegal and she had it coming.

Right?

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 02 2014,10:55
< Cops shoot suspect because he was "reaching into his waistband."  The cops also shot and killed an innocent bystander near the suspect they shot.  So, they charge the guy they shot with murdering the innocent bystander with the bullet that came out of the cop's gun. >

Because... of course they did.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,10:57
I find it interesting that no one says whether or not he had a gun.  I'm betting since the article doesn't say he did, he didn't.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 02 2014,11:06
Another thing, the cop hit him with 5 out of 9 shots.  One of the strays killed the bystander.  One assumes the cop was only a few feet away from the suspect if they already tried and failed with the tazer.

I think I could do better than 5/9 on a man sized target from 3 feet away while blindfolded.

Also, what's the deal with it seemingly like policy for police is now to try and empty the mag?



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 02 2014,11:10
< Cops hand out malware >.  For the children.
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ComputerCop allows parents to have those recorded online chats emailed to them. The emails, however, are sent through third-party servers without encryption, the EFF found. EFF researcher Dave Maass called the lack of encryption "troubling" because it make it possible for a bad actor to snoop on conversations if the child's computer is connected to a public Wi-Fi network.

They're really, really there to serve and protect you.  No, seriously.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2014,10:44
< Cops kills 7-year old during raid >.  Cleared of manslaughter charges.
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Involuntary manslaughter carries a stipulation of willful negligence but "the entire trial has been about the carelessness of the defendant based on his skills... Nowhere did I hear anything about a willful negligence," Gray Hathaway said.

Wow.  I guess incompetence really is a valid defense.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2014,10:46
< Workers at state's Attorney General's > office putting in long, hard hours.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2014,12:13
< Attorney under investigation > for rape.  Why is this interesting?  The attorney in question is handling a police brutality case where the cops killed someone trying to take them into custody.
I'm sure it's pure coincidence.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2014,11:12
< Cops > pepper spray a dude for suspected burglary.  Except it was his home.
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The cops accused Deshawn of not belonging, pointing to the pictures on the mantle with the Tyler’s biological children, where Deshawn – not one for photos – wasn’t featured, the news station notes.

Sprayed after the cops figured the black dude in the house was trying to fuck with them, claiming he's a foster child.  Obviously bullshit.

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"My 5-year-old last night, she looked at me and said, 'Mama I don't understand why they hated our brother, and they had to come in and hurt him,'" Stacy Tyler said.

Oops.

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Police officers released a statement claiming that DeShawn was threatening and belligerent and refused to comply with orders.

If someone accused me of stealing things from my own house, I might do the same.  Why'd the cops show in the first place?

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...after he was reported as a burglar by a mistaken neighbor...

Definitely cause to bust into someone's home and assault them with a caustic chemical.  Don't want to get sprayed?  Shouldn't be fucking caught in your family's house.  It's that simple.



Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 08 2014,11:45
If he didn't insist on being black in a white neighborhood that wouldn't have happened.
Posted by Vince on Oct. 08 2014,13:13
Considering the general lack of giving a shit by the detective when I was broken into 5 years ago or so, I ain't going to fuss about them questioning someone for something like that.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2014,13:16

(Vince @ Oct. 08 2014,15:13)
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Considering the general lack of giving a shit by the detective when I was broken into 5 years ago or so, I ain't going to fuss about them questioning someone for something like that.

Last house I was living in got broken into.  Only thing that kept theft from happening was the dog.  Cop came by and refused to file a report because he didn't think anyone broke in.
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 08 2014,13:22
When they bother showing up at all.

< http://www.komonews.com/news....71.html >

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 09 2014,07:08
Burglaries of a private residence aren't investigated at all in Houston.  When I was robbed the cop that showed up four hours after I called spent 30 seconds looking at my apartment then filled out a form for me to give my insurance company as their official "police report".  I showed him where there were clear fingerprints on some glass and he chuckled and explained that investigating burglaries is not something the police do anymore.  They just create the report for the insurance company, that's it.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 09 2014,07:18
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I showed him where there were clear fingerprints on some glass and he chuckled and explained that investigating burglaries is not something the police do anymore.

Christ forbid you run a stop sign or speed, though.  They'll nail your ass for those.

Posted by Vince on Oct. 09 2014,08:22
Memphis police used to be like that.  I don't know what happened, but they will at least take prints now if you can point out where you think someone might have touched.  The detectives still don't seem to care, but the uniformed officer they send will take prints.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 09 2014,08:27

(Vince @ Oct. 09 2014,10:22)
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Memphis police used to be like that.  I don't know what happened, but they will at least take prints now if you can point out where you think someone might have touched.  The detectives still don't seem to care, but the uniformed officer they send will take prints.

... and throw them away when they get back to the station.
Posted by Vince on Oct. 09 2014,08:50
Perhaps, but as someone that deals with the perceptions of customers... appearing to care goes a long ways.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 09 2014,09:12

(Vince @ Oct. 09 2014,10:50)
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Perhaps, but as someone that deals with the perceptions of customers... appearing to care goes a long ways.

Not nearly as much as doing your job and trying to get the items back.  Buddy of mine had his bike stolen.  Went to the cops to report it.  They sent him to the bike theft unit (yeah, we have one of those).  They promptly took down his info and descriptions and told him they weren't going to spend any time looking.  If they happen to find his bike as part of some other raid or seizure, they'll get it back to him.  But fuck putting out real effort or energy to find stolen property.  There are speeders, non-violent drug offenders, and people selling untaxed cigarettes working to take down the very fabric of our society.  Appearing to care without backing it up is a condescending way to treat someone.  It's more of a "fuck you" than being honest up front and saying, "You are literally not important enough for us to care.  As long as you're a victim.  When you're a perp, though, then fuck you and your wallet extra hard."



Posted by GORDON on Oct. 09 2014,09:53

(Malcolm @ Oct. 09 2014,12:12)
QUOTE

(Vince @ Oct. 09 2014,10:50)
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Perhaps, but as someone that deals with the perceptions of customers... appearing to care goes a long ways.

Not nearly as much as doing your job and trying to get the items back.  Buddy of mine had his bike stolen.  Went to the cops to report it.  They sent him to the bike theft unit (yeah, we have one of those).  They promptly took down his info and descriptions and told him they weren't going to spend any time looking.  If they happen to find his bike as part of some other raid or seizure, they'll get it back to him.  But fuck putting out real effort or energy to find stolen property.  There are speeders, non-violent drug offenders, and people selling untaxed cigarettes working to take down the very fabric of our society.  Appearing to care without backing it up is a condescending way to treat someone.  It's more of a "fuck you" than being honest up front and saying, "You are literally not important enough for us to care.  As long as you're a victim.  When you're a perp, though, then fuck you and your wallet extra hard."

The present, as predicted in 1980.


Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 09 2014,10:09
I got a call on my cell from one of the thieves a week later.  I didn't even bother to tell the police and give them the number, because they wouldn't have done anything anyway.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 09 2014,11:09

(TPRJones @ Oct. 09 2014,12:09)
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I got a call on my cell from one of the thieves a week later.  I didn't even bother to tell the police and give them the number, because they wouldn't have done anything anyway.

They were probably out risking their lives and wouldn't have had time anyway.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2014,11:25
< Woman released > after over a decade and a half of wrongful time served.

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The witness who claimed she heard Mellen confess was June Patti, who had a long history of giving false tips to law enforcement, according to documents in the case. She died in 2006.

Good enough evidence for the cops, I guess.  Their diligence deserves commendation.  Ah well, there was no testimony that contradicts her.

QUOTE
Three gang members subsequently were linked to the crime, and one was convicted of the killing. Another took a polygraph test and said he was present at Daly's killing, and Mellen was not there.

The entire California justice system: slightly worse at connecting dots than your average preschooler.  Wow.  So this woman fabricated evidence that led to someone's unjust arrest and conviction?  Surprised she wasn't on the force.

I'm sure everyone involved in this cavalcade of idiocy will be properly disciplined.  Probably with pay.  Wish I could fuck up someone's life for 17 years and not suffer the consequences.



Posted by Vince on Oct. 11 2014,12:57
I would contend that this one is less about cops being dicks and more about prosecutors being dicks.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2014,18:38

(Vince @ Oct. 11 2014,14:57)
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I would contend that this one is less about cops being dicks and more about prosecutors being dicks.

"So, Officer Asswipe, you thought testimony from a habitual liar would be good enough to arrest someone?"

This is a case of everyone up and down the line being a fucking idiot, from the first officers that interviewed the psycho to the fucking dumb-asses that arrest, indicted, and prosecuted her.  Then the fucking moron judge that rubber stamped the proceedings.  They are all at fault and should all be held liable.



Posted by GORDON on Oct. 12 2014,07:02
If he didn't want to be interrogated about having weed then he shouldn't have had a frisbee.

< http://kfor.com/2014....es-weed >

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2014,09:56
Couple hours of driving from where I got pinched.  Cornfuckers.  But hey, I guess you can't expect the cops to know the law, just enforce it arbitrarily and illegally.
QUOTE
“What the officer did after that was try to extend that stop into a general search of the defendant’s car, or the individual’s car. That’s not permissible anymore,” Rigg says, adding that if the driver had allowed the officer to search the car, and the officer found something illegal, chances are that evidence would be thrown out of court. “The Iowa Supreme Court has held that under the Iowa constitution you can’t convert an equipment violation stop into a general search. and any consent that would have been given would have been invalid in any event.”

"Safety checkpoints" are totally valid, though.  Any cop apologists want to explain to me how this is any different from the mafia setting up checkpoints along the roads and shaking you down?

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“You play frisbee golf?” the officer asks. “I do actually. I play out at Heritage (Park)” the motorist replies. So the officer says, “OK. I need you to answer me a question. Why is it that everybody that plays Frisbee golf smokes weed?” “No, it’s not everybody,” the motorist insists. “It’s everybody, man. You can’t tell me you never smoked weed,” the officer says.

Hey, officer, have you ever accepted an illegal bribe?  Because all cops do that.  You can't tell me you're not on the take.

In conclusion, it's fucked up you're talking shit about someone who risks their life ... harassing frisbee golfers.



Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 12 2014,10:25

(Malcolm @ Oct. 12 2014,12:56)
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"Safety checkpoints" are totally valid, though.  Any cop apologists want to explain to me how this is any different from the mafia setting up checkpoints along the roads and shaking you down?

I read about the safety checkpoints, as far as I can tell your friends are the dumbasses, since they admitted/consented.  Otherwise, nothing would have happened.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2014,14:00
After someone's been arrested a couple dozen times, they tend not to give a fuck.  The other two of us that hadn't racked up double digit arrests would've appreciated a heads up.
Posted by Vince on Oct. 12 2014,16:31

(Malcolm @ Oct. 12 2014,16:00)
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After someone's been arrested a couple dozen times, they tend not to give a fuck.  The other two of us that hadn't racked up double digit arrests would've appreciated a heads up.

LOL!
Posted by GORDON on Oct. 13 2014,22:34
SWAT team attacks wrong house, shoots family dog in the face.

< http://www.captainsjournal.com/2014....old-dog >

Claimed they would take care of it but now aren't returning calls.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2014,07:14
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Jimmy Armstrong, a neighbor who witnessed the shooting, wrote in a signed affidavit that he saw Clohe enter the backyard. He said she was not attacking or threatening any of the officers.

They probably mistook him for a brown guy.  But again, these are dudes risking their lives to enforce the law.  Guess it temporarily doesn't apply to them while they're on duty.



Posted by GORDON on Oct. 14 2014,07:33
Cops shoot dogs so often I am starting to wonder if some people get a sexual thrill from it.
Posted by Vince on Oct. 14 2014,11:13
This deal with cops hitting the wrong house is getting WAY out of hand.  If they don't start fixing it so that people can sue the shit out of them for this sort of sloppy work, they'll never fix it.

let's be honest, how freaking good of a detective are you if you can't even figure out who lives in the house you're about to kick the door in of?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2014,11:21
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how freaking good of a detective are you if you can't even figure out who lives in the house you're about to kick the door in of?

Hey, it's not their job to second guess their orders.  It's their job to do it, without question, and cuff/zap/spray/body slam/shoot anyone and anything who gets in their way.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2014,11:00
< New Orleans detective: > simple rape is not a crime.
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The report, released Wednesday, examined the detectives' work between January 2011 and December 2013. It found the detectives filed follow-up reports for only 179 out of 1,290 sex crime cases. In particular, the report found that some cases of potentially abused children and rape victims were not investigated at all.

Just remember, they're there to protect and serve you.

Punishment for over 1K fucked up sex crime cases?
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Harrison said the five detectives could face criminal charges and be fired, pending an internal investigation.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 18 2014,10:40
< Cleveland > pays $3M.  Why?
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“We felt it important to address the conduct of all the shooters, not just officer Brelo,” Gilbert said, referring to Michael Brelo, who faces two counts of voluntary manslaughter for having jumped on the hood of Russell’s car and firing the last 15 rounds into the windshield. He fired a total of 49 rounds. Five supervisors face misdemeanor dereliction of duty charges.

Gilbert said the lack of supervision during the chase and shooting was evidence of a systemic problem within the police department that “led to the massive violations of the constitutional rights of Russell and Williams.”

Good to know these dudes are taught to handle their firearms properly.

Also, < cop covers up murder > for other cop.
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Family and friends of Ashley Fallis claim she was killed two years ago and that the crime was covered up by an Evans officer. The official cause of Fallis’ 2012 death was a suicide from a self-inflicted gunshot wound at her home.

Way to uphold the law while breaking it.



Posted by GORDON on Nov. 19 2014,09:07

(GORDON @ Oct. 14 2014,10:33)
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Cops shoot dogs so often I am starting to wonder if some people get a sexual thrill from it.

A single department in Buffalo has killed 92 dogs in 3 years, one cop alone accounting for 25 of them.

< http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=48807 >

TFA states he personally killed more dogs than the entire NYPD in 2011-2012.

He's getting off on it.

Posted by Vince on Nov. 19 2014,09:42
Too many no-knock warrants
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 19 2014,09:45
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Upon breaking down the door to Arroyo’s home, officers encountered Cindy, who was barely 50 pounds, and shot and killed her. They were at the wrong apartment.

Because cops are allowed to break the law while enforcing it.  Nor do they actually have to know it.

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Many of these dogs are shot during the execution of no-knock search warrants, many of which are served in an attempt to stop people from putting something in their own body which makes them happy.

Hah.

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He then noted that the department has carried out 357 search warrant raids this year, most of which are in the relentless pursuit of the state’s immoral war on drugs.

One a day.  Are you shitting me?

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Earlier this month we reported the story of a SWAT team responding a dispute between two neighbors and then shooting a small dog as it ran away from them.

SWAT got called for a domestic dispute and shot the dog?

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Last month we broke the story of the sickening video uploaded to facebook of a Cleburne Texas Police officer calling a small dog towards him and then shooting it.

No doubt risking his life in the pursuit of vital duty.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 08 2014,09:29

(GORDON @ Sep. 26 2014,18:59)
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I think only a small percentage of cops actively act like thugs, but I think a majority are willing to close ranks around the bad ones on order to not be the "rat.". This makes them all dirty, as far as I am concerned.

Former cop writes about how deeply racist and corrupt his former coworkers were.

< http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteve....0003409 >

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The problem is that cops aren’t held accountable for their actions, and they know it. These officers violate rights with impunity. They know there’s a different criminal justice system for civilians and police.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,10:52
I watch < this > every week.  They had cell phone footage of some NYC cops that that killed a suspect while arresting him.  Took about three of them to hold the dude down while another put him in a choke hold.  He was doing little in the way of resisting (other than being physically larger than any single pig), certainly not to the point where a NY pig should've administered a submission technique his own department supposedly trains him not to do.

His crime?  Selling illegal ciggies.  Totally warrants a violent takedown.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,11:08
< LeBron chimes in >.
Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 08 2014,11:28
Clearly being both tall and fat and black while committing any minor offense automatically escalates it to a capitol offense.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,11:32
"Today, police around the nation announced the 'Just Fucking Jail or Kill Everyone' initiative.  Everyone will be shot or incarcerated so cops can get better control over day-to-day situations.  Except the cops, of course.  They're exempt.  And any other profession whose job it is to pry into otherwise meaningless details of citizens' lives for purposes of extortion and political control, you're exempt, too.  Good news to the TSA agents out there."


Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 08 2014,15:14

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2014,16:16
Remember the Chappelle's Show sketch that had the white-collar criminal and the ghetto crack dealer get reverse legal treatment?

They totally shot the dude's dog.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,10:32
< Cop shoots kid > carrying a toy gun.
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Tamir was shot outside a city recreation center on Nov. 22 after officers responded to a 911 call about someone with a gun at a playground. Surveillance video released by police shows the boy being shot within 2 seconds of a patrol car stopping near him.

2 seconds?

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 12 2014,10:36
I thought that one was posted here already?  Two awesome things about that story:  the person who called 911 said the gun was probably fake, and the cop had a history of being mentally unbalanced to the point he had already been fired from another town.  Now a kid is dead.

I'm tellin ya... the chances of you dying from being being within 100 feet of cops just keeps going up.  Their training has everyone becoming the enemy.  It's like walking along and encountering a pit bull and maybe it's rabid, and maybe it isn't.  Roll the dice.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,10:39
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It's like walking along and encountering a pit bull and maybe it's rabid, and maybe it isn't.  Roll the dice.

I'll take the dog any day of the week.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,10:42
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I thought that one was posted here already?

I think that was a different incident in a different state with a different cop shooting a different kid.

Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 12 2014,11:07
Honestly at this point it's getting hard to keep all these isolated incidents straight.
Posted by Vince on Dec. 12 2014,11:32

(Malcolm @ Dec. 12 2014,12:32)
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< Cop shoots kid > carrying a toy gun.
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Tamir was shot outside a city recreation center on Nov. 22 after officers responded to a 911 call about someone with a gun at a playground. Surveillance video released by police shows the boy being shot within 2 seconds of a patrol car stopping near him.

2 seconds?

I saw that video.  I blame the guy's partner.  He pulled right up on the kid where his partner (a rookie) really had zero time to exit the passenger side facing the kid and about 10 feet away from him and evaluate what was happening.  He really didn't have much more than those two seconds to determine the threat level to himself.  Go find the video and watch it.  I really don't blame the cop that shot.  The kid might have been trying to raise the gun in order to drop it.  Or he might have been stupid.  But this cop (thanks to his partner) was 10 feet away from the kid that may or may not be raising a gun at him which may or may not be real with zero cover for himself.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,11:49
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...the person who called 911 said the gun was probably fake, and the cop had a history of being mentally unbalanced to the point he had already been fired from another town.


1) The responding dumb-ass cops decided not to take the fake gun suggestion seriously, nor did they follow correct procedure, or even common sense.

2) Some department somewhere hired both these fucking morons, allegedly trained them, and gave them a stamp of approval.  This is nothing less than manslaughter through gross incompetence.  No one involved in this process should be allowed to wear so much as a security guard's uniform.

Posted by Vince on Dec. 12 2014,13:06

(Malcolm @ Dec. 12 2014,13:49)
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1) The responding dumb-ass cops decided not to take the fake gun suggestion seriously, nor did they follow correct procedure, or even common sense.

All we know on that point is that the person that called it in said the gun might be a toy.  To my knowledge it has not been confirmed that this info was passed along to the responding officers.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 12 2014,14:41
Well shit, you'd hope that confirming the presence of a real weapon is something they taught trainees at the academy.  Maybe they were both sick that day and didn't get better until the chapter on driving up to suspects at point blank and killing them got covered.  That's so far beyond stupid and lazy I can't even contemplate it.
Posted by Vince on Dec. 13 2014,08:20
Yeah, let's see you confirm a weapon that looks real is actually real when it's pointed at you and you have about two seconds to react.  At 10 feet away with 2 seconds to react your confirmation would be a bullet in you.


Posted by Vince on Dec. 13 2014,09:21
< Cops being dicks >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2014,09:25

(Vince @ Dec. 13 2014,10:20)
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Yeah, let's see you confirm a weapon that looks real is actually real when it's pointed at you and you have about two seconds to react.  At 10 feet away with 2 seconds to react your confirmation would be a bullet in you.

I wouldn't screech my wheels to within two feet.  Again, these are supposedly dudes with the best training we got.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2014,09:40

(Vince @ Dec. 13 2014,11:21)
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< Cops being dicks >

1) If your eyesight's that bad, you shouldn't be driving.
2) I'll be impressed when I see this level of understanding extended to everyone instead of little old ladies.  It's tremendously easy to find pity in that case.  I think the dude selling ciggies could have used some.  Or the people cops shoot during one of the thousands of times per year they misread a search warrant address.  Or the adopted kid they arrested for breaking and entering into his family's own house.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 13 2014,09:54
It's got nothing to do with wanting cops dead, it is not wanting anyone dead just because they had a toy gun, or were selling a single cigarette, or is a dog in its yard.  The problem is that unless you are a little old lady you are seen as the enemy, because somebody heard about gangs with an AK-47 once in Los Angeles.  I exaggerate, of course, but I think the fact that "no knock" warrants exists, and are carried out, and are getting people killed, makes me the winner.  One innocent person killed for no reason is too many.  One person killed because somebody smelled a joint burning somewhere is too many.  One young kid killed for playing in a park with a toy gun is not ok, ever, for any reason.

I know an ex-cop, and I have had conversations with her, and she embodies the attitude that everyone else thinks is the problem.  She thinks civilians should not be allowed to have guns, ever.  She has to be in control of everything around her, or else.  She thinks subduing and arresting someone for having a bad attitude is just fine.  And she always assumes everyone is trying to kill her and "getting home alive" really is her primary mission, no matter what.

This is the 21st century, there are less lethal ways of subduing someone without emptying the mag or choking them out.  Instead, local departments are gearing up with military hardware.

The point isn't that cops should be killed, the point is that nobody should be killed.  You want to be a cop, you have to accept that your risk is higher, but that doesn't mean you get to be Hitler when on patrol.  You are still serving the public, not being in charge of them.  Sometimes that means dealing with someone who hates you, with a smile.  Sometimes that means NOT killing someone who calls you a pig to your face, and tells you he fucked your mother last night.  Sometimes that means that a dog will bark at you and you don't get to kill it.  No one is forced to become a cop.  Cops should absolutely, positively be held to a higher standard, and punishment for violating that standard should be swift, severe, and very public.  This builds public support for the police force.  Instead, we have the exact opposite going on.  If you don't acknowledge this country has a problem with the relationship between law enforcement and the public, then we agree to disagree.

Posted by Vince on Dec. 13 2014,14:52
I'm okay with calling out when cops screw up.  The cop driving and not allowing his partner enough time to evaluate the situation messed up.  I don't fault the cop that pulled the trigger.

If you think one person dying because a cop screws up is one too many, then get rid of police forces and you can have the anarchy that ensues.  That fantasy world of "one is too many" will never exist.  Go ahead and line up with the anti-gun "one dead child is too many" while you're at it.

I'll continue to call out bad cops and bad calls when I see them.  And I'll be a realist and point out when a cop really didn't have much of a choice, either.  Most cops aren't bad and don't do bad things.  Unfortunately they also don't stand up when bad cops are called out.  That's a major problem.

No-knock warrants are crap.  Dogs getting shot willy-nilly is crap.  No argument there.  Cops that shoot an asshole that's trying to take his gun and kill him is not a problem.  Cops that actually do something worthwhile helping out an old lady going to see her sick son should be acknowledged for a really cool good dead, not whined about because I'm butt hurt for getting pinched on a possession charge.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2014,15:31
< Blue wall of silence >.

QUOTE
Follmer added that the dispatcher followed protocol when sending the officers on what police call a "gun run."

Hey man, it's not our fault, we followed the protocol.

QUOTE
Officer Frank Garmback pulled into the park after seeing Tamir at a distance and slammed on the brakes when Tamir did not run, as they had expected, Follmer said. That caused the car to slide on the slick grass and stop within a few feet of the boy, Follmer said.
Garmback and Loehmann had discussed tactics while approaching the park, Follmer said. Garmback was Loehmann's field training officer that day.

WHAT?  The training officer was the dude behind the wheel.  How interesting.  And they had actually talked about this shit, and this was the best they could come up with.  From what that report says, they're lucky they didn't run him over.  Incompetence at every level.  I improvise better tactics playing GTA.

They're saying, "We technically followed the rules," instead of, "Hmm, should our rules allow for this sort of thing?"



Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 13 2014,17:09

(Vince @ Dec. 13 2014,16:52)
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That fantasy world of "one is too many" will never exist.

Sure, but it should be the goal of the system.  We need to be giving badges to the sort of people that will be ashamed enough to resign and find a new line of work after a mistake like that rather then try to protect their own asses at all costs.  Too many cops these days are just officially sanctioned psychopaths in uniform.  And as the public hatred of cops increases there's a feedback loop here that will just make the problem worse.

I agree that most cops aren't bad.  But clearly the vast majority will work to protect the bad ones when they should be ashamed to work with them and help get rid of them.  And that's almost as bad.

Posted by Vince on Dec. 13 2014,19:39

(TPRJones @ Dec. 13 2014,19:09)
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I agree that most cops aren't bad.  But clearly the vast majority will work to protect the bad ones when they should be ashamed to work with them and help get rid of them.  And that's almost as bad.

I agree with this absolutely.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 13 2014,19:53

(Vince @ Dec. 13 2014,22:39)
QUOTE

(TPRJones @ Dec. 13 2014,19:09)
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I agree that most cops aren't bad.  But clearly the vast majority will work to protect the bad ones when they should be ashamed to work with them and help get rid of them.  And that's almost as bad.

I agree with this absolutely.

I think if this changed, if they stopped circling the wagons to protect the bad ones, it would help a lot.  As I said, a higher standard: if you want to carry a gun and police the public, then you have to be squeaky clean, and if you aren't, then you get the gallows in public square.  Cops should be pushing hard for that since the bad ones make them all look bad.

Mistakes are one thing, but how does one come back from killing a 12 year old as part of a fuckup?

Posted by Vince on Dec. 14 2014,02:27

(GORDON @ Dec. 13 2014,21:53)
QUOTE

(Vince @ Dec. 13 2014,22:39)
QUOTE

(TPRJones @ Dec. 13 2014,19:09)
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I agree that most cops aren't bad.  But clearly the vast majority will work to protect the bad ones when they should be ashamed to work with them and help get rid of them.  And that's almost as bad.

I agree with this absolutely.

I think if this changed, if they stopped circling the wagons to protect the bad ones, it would help a lot.  As I said, a higher standard: if you want to carry a gun and police the public, then you have to be squeaky clean, and if you aren't, then you get the gallows in public square.  Cops should be pushing hard for that since the bad ones make them all look bad.

Mistakes are one thing, but how does one come back from killing a 12 year old as part of a fuckup?

As I said, if you look at the video the officer that pulled the trigger on the 12 yr old, he didn't really appear to screw up.  I don't think his reaction was unreasonable given the circumstance his partner placed him in.  I'm all for consequences for the senior officer that was driving.  Unless this is how they're trained to respond in this situation (for some stupid reason), then he needs to be held responsible for this screw up.  If this IS how they're trained, then they need to really look at that.

I think another thing we have to acknowledge in all this is that no matter how bad some cops are, there are circumstances that happens sometimes that cause someone to die and even though the cop may have been factually wrong, he reacted reasonably.

But I agree about circling the wagons would help.  Except with Al Sharpton.  He still has face-time to get on TV and money to make.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 14 2014,07:48
I like to think that even if a kid shot at me with a real gun I could subdue him without emptying the mag center mass.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 14 2014,08:00
This one has it all except a dead dog:  

1.  no-knock warrant in the middle of the night
2.  no drugs found
3.  Home owner executed while on the ground with a bullet to the back of the head in front of his wife.
4.  Paid vacation for executioner.

< http://www.13wmaz.com/story....0269451 >

QUOTE
She says, "Between 10:30 and 11, I turned the light off upstairs. I heard a car coming up the driveway really fast, and I looked up the upstairs window. I saw a black vehicle with no lights. I saw 6 to 8 men, coming around the side of my house, and I panicked. I came running downstairs, yelling for David to wake up. He was in the bedroom asleep, had been for about an hour and a half. When I got downstairs to the bottom of the stairs, he opened the door and he had a gun in his hand, and he said, 'Who is it?,' and I said I didn't know. He stepped back into the bedroom like he was going to grab his pants, but before he could do that, the door was busted down. He came around me, in the hall, into the den, and I was gonna come behind him, but before I could step into the den the shots were fired, and it was over."

She says, "Initially, I thought that I was going to die, I thought I was going to be shot, I thought a gang had broke in, and up until I heard the radios the dispatch radios, I had no idea."

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,09:07
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As I said, if you look at the video the officer that pulled the trigger on the 12 yr old, he didn't really appear to screw up.  I don't think his reaction was unreasonable given the circumstance his partner placed him in.  I'm all for consequences for the senior officer that was driving.  Unless this is how they're trained to respond in this situation (for some stupid reason), then he needs to be held responsible for this screw up.  If this IS how they're trained, then they need to really look at that.

That sat and discussed how to handle things before going up to the kid.  If this is what their training says to do, their training was written by a fucking idiot.  It also says little for those who are guided by it and willingly sign up to enforce the rules in such a manner.

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I thought a gang had broke in

Sounds like that's exactly what happened.

QUOTE
1.  no-knock warrant in the middle of the night
2.  no drugs found
3.  Home owner executed while on the ground with a bullet to the back of the head in front of his wife.
4.  Paid vacation for executioner.

Stop questioning the holy crusade on drugs.  It must be won, regardless of time, money, or civilian casualties.  How else will the penal industry fill their many prisons with inmates?  How will the law enforcement industry fill their bloated budgets with cash?  How will the politicians surf to incumbency victory after incumbency victory on waves of phantom progress?  Because fuck change.  You don't want fewer prisons and cops, do you?



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,11:09
< This just in >, it's legal to kill big-boned minorities in NYC if they're selling loose ciggies.
Posted by Vince on Dec. 14 2014,15:38

(GORDON @ Dec. 14 2014,09:48)
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I like to think that even if a kid shot at me with a real gun I could subdue him without emptying the mag center mass.

This is so far removed from any instruction on firearms I don't even know what to say.  If you're a cop, or a citizen with a conceal carry (or even protecting yourself at home), and I'd wager even what you were taught in the Marines, if you engage hostiles (and if the cop is shooting he better have good cause to think he's engaging hostiles) then you shoot until the subject is no longer a threat.  If that means emptying your gun, then you empty your gun.

People don't often get shot and just fall down dead immediately.

If someone, even a kid is shooting at you and you think your options are anything other than returning fire to subdue him, then hopefully you never find yourself in that situation, because I'd miss my dumb dead friend ;-)

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 14 2014,15:46
Nah, I just know how good I am. Not sure I could live with the knowledge I'd killed an innocent kid. I'd take my chances.
Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 14 2014,15:51
You know I'm on your side on this issue overall, GORDON, but I have to say that if a kid is actively shooting at you with a real gun then he's not exactly innocent.

But I can understand waiting for him to at least shoot first.  Besides the odds are he'll miss at anything but point blank range anyway.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 14 2014,16:55

(TPRJones @ Dec. 14 2014,18:51)
QUOTE
You know I'm on your side on this issue overall, GORDON, but I have to say that if a kid is actively shooting at you with a real gun then he's not exactly innocent.

But I can understand waiting for him to at least shoot first.  Besides the odds are he'll miss at anything but point blank range anyway.

Exactly right.  The kid didn't shoot first.

When I was a yute of 15 I spent a week at the Ohio Highway Patrol Academy as a "junior cadet."  They have a simulator there where you have a fake gun, and you are in front of a projection where you are in a situation where you decide if you have to draw and/or fire.  Everybody else was having a good time shooting everything and everyone.  When it was my turn, I confronted a guy in his back yard.  He starts lumbering at me with a tire iron, all pissed off.  He is close to me, I draw.... he raises the tire iron over his head to swing it at me, I start to squeeze the trigger.... and he falls backwards dead of a heart attack.  I didn't fire, and I was correct.  I was the only one to not get to shoot the fake gun.

If the cop was drawn down on the kid with his finger on the trigger from a very small distance away, there was no goddam reason he couldn't have waited until the kid at least made a move, if he was going to.  Instead he goes OK Corral, and it isn't ok, and I don't give a shit what "proper procedures" are.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2014,17:05
How about binoculars?
Posted by Vince on Dec. 14 2014,18:34

(GORDON @ Dec. 14 2014,18:55)
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If the cop was drawn down on the kid with his finger on the trigger from a very small distance away, there was no goddam reason he couldn't have waited until the kid at least made a move, if he was going to.  Instead he goes OK Corral, and it isn't ok, and I don't give a shit what "proper procedures" are.

The kid did make a move.  He was bring the gun up.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 14 2014,18:59
I guess he was his huckleberry.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 15 2014,07:56
Cop, without actual knowledge of the law he was enforcing, tazes a 76 year old man over a car inspection sticker.

< http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014....04.html >

On the bright side, the department has admitted this may have been fucked up, acknowledge that public perception is important, and they are making appropriate noises of contrition.  It may be because it is Texas.

Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 15 2014,09:05
Clearly that old man was guilty of not kissing the cops ass enough.  That's a capital offense these days.  He's lucky he wasn't shot in the head.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,09:09
QUOTE
A man emerges from the dealer's office and yells at the cop.

"I told the officer, 'What in the hell are you doing?' This gentleman is 76 years old," sales manager Larry Urich told the newspaper. "The cop told me to stand back, but I didn't shut up. I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper."

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 15 2014,09:50

(Malcolm @ Dec. 15 2014,12:09)
QUOTE
QUOTE
A man emerges from the dealer's office and yells at the cop.

"I told the officer, 'What in the hell are you doing?' This gentleman is 76 years old," sales manager Larry Urich told the newspaper. "The cop told me to stand back, but I didn't shut up. I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper."

Yeah, Texas.  I like the concept.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 15 2014,09:59
This happened a little while ago, but we have a thread for it so here it is.

< http://www.rawstory.com/rs....walmart >
Cops kill guy at Walmart for carrying a BB gun that he picked up off the shelf of bb guns that were for sale there.

Doesn't help that he was black.

The article is about how the cops abused the guy's girlfriend afterwards, trying to cover the fact they fucked up and killed a guy for no reason.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,10:04
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After the case was handed to a special prosecutor, a grand jury decided in September that Williams and another officer involved should not face criminal charges. Williams was in 2010 responsible for the only other fatal police shooting in Beavercreek’s recent history.

Funny how I don't hear an uproar from his fellow officers about how he more or less murdered someone.  I assume they approve.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,10:49
< Supreme Court rules > that cops don't need to know the laws they enforce.
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The case arose from a traffic stop in North Carolina based on a broken brake light. But state law there required only a single working “stop lamp,” which the car in question had.
...
The case concerned a 2009 traffic stop near Dobson, N.C., conducted by Sgt. Matt Darisse. The car’s owner, Nicholas B. Heien, who had been asleep in the back seat while a friend drove, consented to a search. Sergeant Darisse found a sandwich bag containing cocaine.

Mr. Heien was charged with attempted drug trafficking, and he challenged the stop as a violation of the Fourth Amendment. A midlevel state appeals court agreed, basing its decision on an interpretation of the state traffic law as requiring only a single working brake light.

And again, the unassailable, infallible Crusade on Drugs.  Go fuck yourself, North Carolina, and go fuck yourself, Supreme Court.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,11:33
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/14/texas-cop-stun-gun-76-year-old_n_6324804.html


< Old man was > zapped twice.  Because once wasn't enough.
QUOTE
Once down on the ground and already tazed in the chest Pete says the officer tazed him a second time because he didn't get up fast enough.

"He ordered me to get up so he could put the handcuffs on me and I couldn't get up so he put his taser and he did it again," vasquez said.



Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 15 2014,11:39
Deja vu.

Although the bit about why he was tazed a second time I didn't notice before.  Pretty dumb cop there.  Does he think the second tazering undoes the first one so the old man can then get up?



Posted by Vince on Dec. 15 2014,12:50
< Cops being dicks >
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2014,12:53

(Vince @ Dec. 15 2014,14:50)
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< Cops being dicks >

Again, helping out grandma is easy.  I want to see that same level of understanding given to all offenders, like dudes that walk into Walmart to buy a BB gun and end up shot.  Or old men who are given the courtesy of being tazed only once.



Posted by GORDON on Dec. 15 2014,17:38

(GORDON @ Dec. 14 2014,18:46)
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Nah, I just know how good I am. Not sure I could live with the knowledge I'd killed an innocent kid. I'd take my chances.

I realized earlier today that my self-perception of being bulletproof is a holdover from my Marine days.  I still stand by it, though.  The day I can't talk down or non-lethally take down a 12-year-old with a gun is the day... well, that'll be the day.

It helps that I am not scared to death to be in the presence of a person holding a gun.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 17 2014,09:42
< http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir....-threat >

QUOTE
"How about this: Listen to police officers' commands. Listen to what we tell you, and just stop," he said. "I think that eliminates a lot of problems."

"I think the nation needs to realize that when we tell you to do something, do it," he added.


Yeah.  I know.

Still doesn't sit right with me.  They shouldn't get to kill me because they are having a bad day and I have a problem with authority.  I'd never kill one of them for no reason, but I might feel inclined to call them a fucking asshole, too.  Too bad that gets me locked up, minimum.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2014,10:29

(GORDON @ Dec. 17 2014,11:42)
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QUOTE
"How about this: Listen to police officers' commands. Listen to what we tell you, and just stop," he said. "I think that eliminates a lot of problems."

"I think the nation needs to realize that when we tell you to do something, do it," he added.

Seig heil, mein fuhrer.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 19 2014,10:20
< Cop decks restrained dude pinned against car >.
QUOTE
A video recording of New York City police officers handcuffing two young Black males shows a plainclothes cop throwing at least two body punches into one of the suspects who was already pinned against a car.

Unfortunately for that guy, he wasn't a little old lady.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 20 2014,15:03
Guy falls asleep in his tub.  Someone calls the cops, concerned about him.  Cops tell judge the guy has hostages so they can get permission to use the SWAT team.  SWAT team does what it does.... tases, grenades, and beats the shit out of the naked guy asleep in the tub.  Cops charge him with all kinds of "resisting arrest" charges.  Guy goes bankrupt and loses his family while fighting the charges.  Jury finds him not guilty of all charges.

< http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story....ncident >

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2014,16:10
He shouldn't drink and fall asleep in his own house.  It's that simple.


Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 22 2014,19:31
I hope he sues them for a few million dollars.

I'm starting to think that the only thing that will fix this problem is plentiful absurd punitive awards that steal millions from the tax paying public.  Get those voters pissed about how the cops are throwing away all their money with their incompetence, and maybe then they'll finally scare the local politicians into kicking some fucktarded chief of police and DA asses.

It's all about the money.  If every bad cop mistake cost the city a couple of million dollars, the bad cops would be kicked out so fast their heads would pop right off.



Posted by GORDON on Dec. 22 2014,20:06
I remember being taught that having to draw your weapon means you failed as a peace officer.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 22 2014,21:43
QUOTE
Get those voters pissed about how the cops are throwing away all their money with their incompetence, and maybe then they'll finally scare the local politicians into kicking some fucktarded chief of police and DA asses.

You obviously want the criminals to win, criminal.  The gov't will let every public school crumble into gravel, they will shut off every lottery, they will close down every library, museum, state park, ad nauseum, before they even admit there might be a hint of an inkling of a whif of a problem with them, their methods, or their laws.

Posted by Vince on Dec. 23 2014,03:58

(TPRJones @ Dec. 22 2014,21:31)
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I'm starting to think that the only thing that will fix this problem is plentiful absurd punitive awards that steal millions from the tax paying public.  Get those voters pissed about how the cops are throwing away all their money with their incompetence, and maybe then they'll finally scare the local politicians into kicking some fucktarded chief of police and DA asses.

Sadly, looking at an $18 trillion dollar debt today, I'm unsure how much good that would do (though I'm all for suing the crap out of them).

I think everyone involved losing their jobs is the only thing that'll put a dent in the issue.

Posted by Vince on Dec. 23 2014,04:31

(GORDON @ Dec. 22 2014,22:06)
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I remember being taught that having to draw your weapon means you failed as a peace officer.

Sorry, but that's devoid of reality.    If cops are responding to a paranoid schizophrenic active shooter call and they draw their weapons, that means they failed?

Remember that guy in Europe that was shooting the kids at the day camp and they had to wait on the guns so they could go in and stop him?  Did they fail by using guns?  Or did they fail by nor having guns in a situation where they might have saved a few innocent lives of children?

I can see where what you're saying may be the unreachable goal, but setting it as a hard rule just isn't realistic.



Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 23 2014,07:41
I always thought of it like the legend of the samurai and his sword.  You don't draw until you are absolutely going to use it to kill someone right that moment.
Posted by Vince on Dec. 23 2014,08:04
I'm close to that TPR.  I'd say you don't draw until you're absolutely prepared to kill someone right at that moment.  If someone has a gun in their hand, but it's not pointed at me and the guy is obviously agitated or disturbed... then I can see drawing your weapon and telling him to drop his weapon.  If you're in the above situation and there are innocent bystanders and you wait until he brings the weapon up before you draw yours, that delay might be responsible for an innocent death (the officer's or a bystander).  Also, you might be able to talk them down if they realize they have no chance of outdrawing you.  Or if they have dozens of weapons drawn on them.

Of course, there's the flip side of that where those NY cops a couple of years ago went into an active shooter situation and shot the shooter plus three or four bystanders.  Not sure what ever happened with those guys, but that was horrible.  Not just horrible police work, but horrible basic shooter safety.

Posted by GORDON on Dec. 23 2014,17:13
This one is strange.  Apparently a cop threatened to shoot a guy in front of his 2 young kids unless he fetched some ID.

< http://reason.com/blog....ay-at-p >

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 23 2014,17:19
The only strange bit is that a threat came before the shot.  Guess he should just stfu and do what he's told.  Seig heil, mein fuhrer.


Posted by Vince on Dec. 23 2014,17:58
That seems like a whole town of crazy there.
Posted by GORDON on Dec. 26 2014,14:54
< "Today I stopped caring." >

Cop tells why he's had enough of trying to be a good guy.

Sorta funny because some of the things he uses as reasons his job is so important are things that almost everybody hates about cops... for example, speeding tickets, never actually solving any crimes, and the war on drugs.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2014,15:31
QUOTE
I stopped caring today because a once noble profession has become made itself despised, hated, distrusted, and mostly unwanted.

Fixed.

QUOTE
Nevertheless, we are just another tool used by government to generate “revenue.”

Even if only 10% of your "laws" are called revenue generators, that bullshit is what nets you a large portion of your annual budget.  You are funded by dirty money.  < Every cop's wet dream >, spearheaded by < Satan himself >.  How much cash do you get every year because of your moving and parking tickets?  Your laughable attempts to enforce one of the most broken drug policies on the planet?  Too bad they don't pay as much as tracking down someone's jacked car stereo.  Your industry has decided investigating robberies isn't as important as keeping those speed and stop sign traps going.  Or just randomly stopping people on the road for "safety checks."  I'll stop labeling cops revenue agents when they stop enforcing laws designed to generate revenue.

QUOTE
I stopped caring today because parents tell their little kids to be good or “the police will take you away” embedding a fear from year one.

Never too early to teach them not to trust strangers.  Particularly strangers with itchy trigger fingers, guns, tazers, and pepper spray.  If my kids weren't white or just had a deep tan, I'd use big-ass capital letters.

QUOTE
We represent a “Police State” where “jackbooted badge-wearing thugs” randomly attack innocent people without cause or concern for constitutional rights.

Like lying about drunk guys in bathtubs having hostages, then flash-banging them into submission?  Like all the times you can't take two seconds to double-check an addy on a no-knock warrant?  Like putting people blacker and larger than yourself into choke holds even though you've been specifically told not to?

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If a crime isn’t solved within the allocated 60 minutes it takes CSI on television, we are inept, incompetent, or covering something up.

At least on CSI, they make an attempt to solve a crime instead of telling me directly or otherwise that my stolen things aren't important enough.  At least I see agents giving a fuck on that show.

QUOTE
I stopped caring today because the culture of today’s instantly connected youth is only there to take and never give back.

I hope you say that to the face of every new dude that walks into the academy.  I'm sure they'll love working with you.  Nothing better than knowing a cop already holds something against you because you fit the profile of "today's instantly connected youth."  Sorry you're bitter about being old and that high school must've sucked for you, getting stuffed in all those lockers.

QUOTE
To argue that getting stoned should be a right, yet getting a job or an education is a hassle.

One costs a few bucks and a blunt wrapper.  Education means almost certain debt.

From the top of the comments:
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...and they wonder why the public trust has plummeted. Placing blame on everyone but themselves will not restore the trust painted over by the thin blue line.

Do not dare question your authority figures, citizen.

QUOTE
But tomorrow, I will put my uniform back on and I will care again.

Bull the fuck shit, unless you're a sociopath (which wouldn't surprise me).  You'll go out there with a shitty attitude, and everyone you interact with will notice.  Someone will fall into one of the categories you just laid out.  You'll have tried and convicted them in your head already.  You shouldn't be a cop or even a fucking security guard.  You are exactly the opposite type of person required.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 27 2014,10:09
< Cops turn cop funeral into a political statement >.
QUOTE
Hundreds of officers outside the church where a funeral was held for a policeman killed along with his partner in an ambush shooting turned their backs on the mayor as he spoke during Saturday's service.

Stay classy, NYC cops.

Posted by GORDON on Jan. 01 2015,19:44
Chipotle being dicks to cops.

< http://americanoverlook.com/this-ch....32 >

1.  Story could be fake... IIRC, Chipotle supports open carry, so that makes them a forever-target from the left.

2.  If true, kind of dangerous to take on the only legal armed gang in the country.  Would be a shame if something bad happened to the store.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 01 2015,19:59
< Details here. >

I would not trust that americanoverlook.com site.

Posted by GORDON on Jan. 06 2015,12:51
Dude with Down's Syndrome killed over a $12 movie ticket.  Was calling out for his Mom when he died.

< http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_24885504/legacy-ethan-saylor >

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2015,13:08
QUOTE
As deputies went in, Saylor's aide pleaded for everyone to wait it out and allow her to deal with the situation. His mother was on the way. The aide warned that Saylor would "freak out" if touched.  Deputies dismissed her advice and told her to stay out of the theater. They went in, ordered Saylor to leave, then grabbed him when he refused and began swearing at them.

Never doubting their years of special needs psychiatry experience wouldn't be sufficient.

QUOTE
Deputies cuffed him, and Saylor struggled and cried, saying, "Mommy, mommy. It hurts." As officers wrestled with 294-pound Saylor, he fell to the ground with a deputy on his back. He soon stopped breathing and died. An autopsy later revealed his larynx was crushed.

Choking them to death: the only way cops know how to arrest someone over 250 pounds.

QUOTE
The chief medical examiner's office in Baltimore ruled Saylor's death a homicide, meaning death at the hands of another. But a grand jury refused to indict the deputies.

And it's totally legal.  No punishment, either.  Wish I could kill people and get away with it.



Posted by Vince on Jan. 06 2015,14:19

(GORDON @ Jan. 06 2015,14:51)
QUOTE
Dude with Down's Syndrome killed over a $12 movie ticket.  Was calling out for his Mom when he died.

< http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_24885504/legacy-ethan-saylor >

Tragic.  And seems like everyone involved in that one showed very poor judgment.  The guy's aide, the theater and the police.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2015,14:34
QUOTE
As deputies went in, Saylor's aide pleaded for everyone to wait it out and allow her to deal with the situation. His mother was on the way. The aide warned that Saylor would "freak out" if touched.

Deputies dismissed her advice and told her to stay out of the theater.

Yeah, damn her for trying to warn the cops what would happen.  And did.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2015,10:50
< Iowa cops > finally stop harassing dying man and his family.  But only because he died.  No doubt the world's a better place without him threatening the public's safety by growing a plant.  Fuck that state with a nuclear explosion.


Posted by Vince on Jan. 15 2015,03:24
< At least he confirmed that the gun was real. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 21 2015,10:41
< Off duty cop > shoots and kills surfer.  In self-defense.
QUOTE
Arruda says the officer who shot the unarmed surfer says he did so in self-defence.

But other witnesses say officer Luis Brentano shot dos Santos after they got into an argument.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 21 2015,10:45
< Cops shoot and kill dude with his hands up > on video.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 21 2015,10:49
< Florida cops > use mug shots for target practice.  Guess what all the suspects had in common...
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 21 2015,11:18

(Malcolm @ Jan. 21 2015,13:49)
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< Florida cops > use mug shots for target practice.  Guess what all the suspects had in common...

The suspects were done by race, by page, as I understand it.  so there was a white page, and an hispanic page, etc.
Posted by Vince on Jan. 21 2015,16:06
Yeah, the only thing in that article declared to be in common with the targets is that they were all mug shots.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 21 2015,16:46

(Vince @ Jan. 21 2015,18:06)
QUOTE
Yeah, the only thing in that article declared to be in common with the targets is that they were all mug shots.

I wonder how the cops would respond if they walked into a shooting range and found their pictures on targets.  Or perhaps a bar that has them on a dartboard.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 10 2015,12:55
< Man killed > by cops because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.  In his apartment building with cops.
QUOTE
As the officers were entering the eighth-floor landing, Gurley emerged on the seventh-floor landing. He heard a noise and turned to look up at the two officers a floor above him, a law enforcement source said.

Then Liang fired, hitting Gurley 11 feet below him, according to police.Gurley was shot in the chest.
...
Liang was placed on desk duty after the shooting. The shooting sparked protests around the city.

Shoot a dude to death, get a cushy desk job.  Anything except actually being held responsible for manslaughter or wrongful death.  Is there any mention of this guy so much as making a threatening noise or motion towards the cops, while they had the advantages of elevated ground and guns?  Did he do anything except open a door in the dark?

Posted by TPRJones on Feb. 11 2015,06:42
QUOTE
Brian Williams suspended without pay for 6 months by NBC

I just read that in the other thread, and what came to mind was that we punish someone who tells a few tall tales much harsher than someone who murders an innocent person, as long as the murderer is carrying a badge.  When a cop is suspended they still get paid don't they?

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 11 2015,07:34

(TPRJones @ Feb. 11 2015,08:42)
QUOTE
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Brian Williams suspended without pay for 6 months by NBC

I just read that in the other thread, and what came to mind was that we punish someone who tells a few tall tales much harsher than someone who murders an innocent person, as long as the murderer is carrying a badge.  When a cop is suspended they still get paid don't they?

They can do either.  Since this fucker was assigned to a desk job, I bet he's still drawing a paycheck.  Wish I could kill someone and chalk it up to a mistake with no legal consequences.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 11 2015,12:31

(Malcolm @ Feb. 10 2015,14:55)
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< Man killed > by cops because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.  In his apartment building with cops.
QUOTE
As the officers were entering the eighth-floor landing, Gurley emerged on the seventh-floor landing. He heard a noise and turned to look up at the two officers a floor above him, a law enforcement source said.

Then Liang fired, hitting Gurley 11 feet below him, according to police.Gurley was shot in the chest.
...
Liang was placed on desk duty after the shooting. The shooting sparked protests around the city.

Shoot a dude to death, get a cushy desk job.  Anything except actually being held responsible for manslaughter or wrongful death.  Is there any mention of this guy so much as making a threatening noise or motion towards the cops, while they had the advantages of elevated ground and guns?  Did he do anything except open a door in the dark?

< Pleads not guilty >.
QUOTE
He and his partner were patrolling the Louis Pink Houses, where reports of violent crime had spiked. The hallways were "pitch black," and Liang had his gun drawn as they descended onto an eighth-floor landing, police said after the shooting. Meanwhile, Gurley opened the door into the seventh-floor landing after giving up his wait for an elevator. Liang was about 10 feet from Gurley when, without a word and apparently by accident, he fired a shot, police said. Gurley made it down two flights of stairs before collapsing.

"Yeah, man, I don't know how that gun went off.  Trigger must've pulled itself."

Ah well, at least cops who break the law are treated like everyone else.
QUOTE
The last time an officer was indicted in New York was 2012, when Richard Haste was charged with manslaughter in the shooting death of Ramarley Graham, but the case was tossed on a technicality and another grand jury declined to indict the officer. When police face criminal charges, the case is usually decided by a judge and not a jury, the defendant's choice. In 2007, three of five officers involved in the 50-shot death of Sean Bell were indicted on manslaughter charges but were acquitted by a judge. They were later fired.



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 13 2015,11:14
< Cop shoots and kills > dude armed with a deadly rock.  Thank Christ cops have non-lethal weaponry to deal with such individuals.

< Cop beats the shit > out of unarmed middle-aged guy who can barely speak English, while he was restrained.

QUOTE
"This is happening all over America. Police culture must change and good cops must police and root out bad cops before other innocent citizens or non citizens are injured or killed by unprofessional thugs wearing police uniforms,"

That would mean cops as a profession would have to accept that their current policies are wrong, which is something they've proven time and time again they're too fucking stubborn to admit.



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 22 2015,12:14
< How much > have shitty cops cost NYC?
QUOTE
Stringer has said the city spent $732 million in settlements and judgments in the fiscal year ending last June, an increase of $208 million from the prior year.

Good to know the system's working.





Against itself.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 24 2015,13:22
I may have to change this thread to "US legal and justice system run by dicks."

< Chi-town > cops have their < own local Gitmo Bay. >
QUOTE
At least one person has died after being found unresponsive in one of Homan Square’s “interview rooms.” His death remains shrouded in mystery:

   The Cook County medical examiner’s office could not locate any record for the Guardian indicating a cause of Hubbard’s death. It remains unclear why Hubbard was ever in police custody.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 01 2015,11:27

(Malcolm @ Dec. 12 2014,12:32)
QUOTE
< Cop shoots kid > carrying a toy gun.
QUOTE
Tamir was shot outside a city recreation center on Nov. 22 after officers responded to a 911 call about someone with a gun at a playground. Surveillance video released by police shows the boy being shot within 2 seconds of a patrol car stopping near him.

2 seconds?

< Cleveland > cops claim they did everything < by the book >.

QUOTE
Pleading innocence, immunity and ignorance, the city of Cleveland responded to a wrongful death lawsuit filed by Tamir Rice's family by saying the 12-year-old's death was his own fault.

In November, Cleveland Officer Timothy Loehmann fired the fatal shots at Tamir within two seconds of arriving outside a recreation center where the sixth-grader was playing with a pellet gun.
...
In the video, neither Loehmann nor Garmback appears to provide medical assistance to the boy, and Police Chief Calvin Williams has said that Tamir did not receive first aid until an FBI agent arrived on the scene four minutes later.


QUOTE
Meanwhile, he [Bill Mahr] said, union leaders representing both the NYPD and Cleveland police insist on pushing the narrative that police can do no wrong and every arrest is “by the book.”

“Put six slugs into an unarmed man by the seat of your car? ‘By the book,’” he explained. “Strangle a handcuffed guy to death? ‘By the book.’ Kill a 12-year-old who had a toy gun? ‘By the book.’ Maybe they need to get a new book.

I now have a way to describe how fucked up cops act towards people: it's so fucked up, I have to agree partially with Bill Mahr.



Posted by GORDON on Mar. 01 2015,12:01
If I was the father of that kid I would be pretty much guaranteed to go on a quest for vengeance.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 01 2015,14:38
It's below pathetic that two grown men, supposedly trained professionals, get away with acting like this.  Was the kid being stupid?  Yeah.  But he's fucking twelve.  The cops were being equally stupid and they have no such excuse.  They got the call, scoped the situation, made a plan, and then executed it and the kid.  Sounds a bit like < depraved indifference > to me.
QUOTE
In most states, depraved heart killings constitute second-degree murder.
...
The common law punishes unintentional homicide as murder if the defendant commits an act of gross recklessness.

Premeditation to commit a violent act and exceptional incompetence sounds about right.

"Hey, why don't we screech up to him Fast and Furious style and shoot him without giving him a chance to surrender?"

"I got nothing better.  Let's do it."



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 02 2015,10:41
< Multiple officers > not enough to subdue homeless guy without shooting him.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2015,11:07
< Cleveland > catching some shit for its asshole response.


Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 03 2015,12:42
< Ferguson accused of discrimination >

QUOTE
According to the findings, African-Americans make up 67 percent of the population of Ferguson, but were subject to 85 percent of traffic stops, 90 percent of citations and 93 percent of arrests.

In essence they accuse the Ferguson police department of a pattern and practice of discrimination.

I assume because the DoJ also investigated the actual occurrences of crimes, and found out that African-Americans were only committing 67% of all crimes as well.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 13 2015,10:53
< Transit police > kill a dude.  No reason given.

< Cops doctoring > wikipedia entries for people they've murdered.

Posted by GORDON on Mar. 19 2015,19:49
Two cops knock on the wrong door.  While one cop was leaning down to pet the service animal inside, the other cop shot it in the head.

< http://pjmedia.com/tatler....ice-dog >

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 19 2015,20:29
I'm sure he'll be punished with a paid vacation.

QUOTE
It’s not clear why they targeted his house.

Because literacy is h4rd.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2015,10:49
< Federal cop > is a fucking junkie.  Caught 3 years after the fact.

QUOTE
f convicted of the charges, Lowry faces at least 87 months in prison.

Sounds like a lot, right?  8+ years.

QUOTE
He was charged with 64 criminal counts...

Uh ... so that's 1/8 of a year per count?

Posted by GORDON on Mar. 22 2015,17:57

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 23 2015,10:19
< Mother spends two plus decades > on death row for killing her 4-year old.  Fortunately, the evidence was really solid.
QUOTE
An appeals court overturned Milke's conviction in 2013, ruling that prosecutors failed to disclose a detective's history of misconduct. Her conviction was based entirely on a confession Milke gave to the now-discredited detective, Armando Saldate.

Multiple court rulings in other cases said the now-retired officer either lied under oath or violated suspects' rights during interrogations.

In a scathing 2013 opinion, a federal appeals court leveled harsh criticism over the case.

"No civilized system of justice should have to depend on such flimsy evidence," the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said.

Sorry about those two decades of life we pretty much stole from you.  But hey, at least they're going after the cop responsible.

QUOTE
Saldate has said he would not testify at any retrial, citing fears of potential federal charges based on the 9th Circuit's accusations of misconduct. Both county and federal authorities have said they don't intend to seek charges against the detective based on any accusations leveled by the federal appeals court.

Well, guess not.  Must be nice to be a cop.  You get to be so incompetent, you don't have to know or follow the law.  You can break multiple laws during enforcement of another.  And now you can cost several people years behind bars without any consequences because no one holds you responsible for any of your actions.  Fuck the feds, fuck Arizona, and fuck their prosecutors.  That fucking pig and all state officials involved should spend 20 years behind bars to see what it feels like.  I bet that fucking lying fucker is drawing a pension, too.

< DoJ to Philly cops >: you suck, seriously.
QUOTE
The report concluded, "our assessment uncovered policy, training, and operational deficiencies in addition to an undercurrent of significant strife between the community and department."



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 26 2015,10:20
< Three cops beat the shit > out of and taze a middle-aged black guy during a traffic stop.  Then they plant drugs on him.
QUOTE
The officer shown pummeling Dent in the head on the video, has been identified as William Melendez. He was holding him in a chokehold as a second officer attempted to handcuff Dent behind his back. Another officer arrived and kicked Dent, and another Tasered him in the thigh and stomach as he was being handcuffed.
...
Dent's attorney, Gregory Rohl, said Wednesday that a close review of portions of the tape not yet made public show police planting the drugs.

Video included in link.  3 more paid vacations as punishment coming right up.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 27 2015,10:33
< Multiple pigs > from Frisco and LA under investigation.
QUOTE
San Francisco sheriff's deputy Scott Neu is accused of leading a ring of corrupt jail guards who coerced prisoners into gladiatorial combat with threats of rape and violence.

Neu serves at County Jail No. 4 at 850 Bryant St despite having settled claims that he raped a woman prisoner and two transgendered prisoners while working at the jail. He sports a tattoo reading "850 Mob," believed to describe the name used by the corrupt deputies to describe themselves. At least four other deputies are implicated in the program of sexualized torture.

Living out prison rape fantasies is totally cool for cops.

< Here's the LA one >.
QUOTE
18 current and former deputies have been arrested by the FBI or were expected to surrender to investigators as part of a 2-year probe into claims of inmate abuse and misconduct in county jails.

Yep, just a few bad cops making them all look bad.  I'm sure it's nothing systemic.  By the by, the LA cops only came under scrutiny because they harassed someone who was white.  All the minorities they treated that way didn't warrant looking into.
QUOTE
"In one of the cases, deputies allegedly improperly arrested and searched an Austrian consulate official and her husband during a visit to an inmate who was an Austrian national." Call me a cynic, but I'm gonna bet that's one of the incidents that really pushed this over the line, after years of complaints by Black and Latino inmates and their families.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 01 2015,04:55
If you were driving around in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night, and some random cars started trying to force you off the road, would you pull over for them?  Because that seems to be the root cause of this 25 year old getting burned alive in his car by cops.

"Proper procedures were followed.  And oops, we accidentally recorded over the video footage."

FBI: Don't worry, we found it for you.

< http://tinyurl.com/q4o643j >

Posted by TPRJones on Apr. 01 2015,07:03
That's at least involuntary manslaughter.  At a minimum.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2015,07:13
QUOTE
Horrific footage from the dashcam of the agents' car is being used as evidence in the lawsuit and has now emerged online, showing the moment the vehicle blew out and how the officers, despite being armed with fire extinguishers, fled the scene.

That's a little more than manslaughter.  The bit there makes it second-degree murder.  I'm sure they'll be going on extra long paid vacations.  Also awesome to see the mythical "good cops" rise up in anger at this.

Cue the sound of crickets chirping.



Posted by GORDON on Apr. 01 2015,08:58
Someone else asked why border patrol was operating inside the border.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2015,09:10

(GORDON @ Apr. 01 2015,10:58)
QUOTE
Someone else asked why border patrol was operating inside the border.

No doubt risking their lives in pursuit of vital duty.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 01 2015,09:13
Well, that's a good question but we already know the answer: because the government has given themselves that 100 mile buffer zone within every border that people call the "Constitution Free Zone."  Not entirely accurate, but that's where the "We were just following procedure" excuse will come from.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2015,09:17

(GORDON @ Apr. 01 2015,11:13)
QUOTE
Well, that's a good question but we already know the answer: because the government has given themselves that 100 mile buffer zone within every border that people call the "Constitution Free Zone."  Not entirely accurate, but that's where the "We were just following procedure" excuse will come from.

I have yet to hear any cop even entertain the hint of a thought that maybe their methods are extra special retarded and might need revamping.  "By the book."
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2015,10:06
< Pig > spouts anti-immigrant rant in the general direction of an Uber driver.  Again, caught on vid.
QUOTE
The video was posted to YouTube by Sanjay Seth, one of the passengers in the Uber car. According to Seth's YouTube post, his Uber driver honked his car horn at the officer later seen screaming in the video because the officer was trying to park on a Sixth Precinct street in the middle of the afternoon without using any blinkers or hazard lights, and the Uber driver's path to a green light was blocked.

No doubt, the cop was in pursuit of vital duty, probably on his way to shooting brown people or dogs.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2015,11:14
< Update: it's an > anti-terrorist FBI pig.  I guess "elite" = "complete asshole."
QUOTE
"I don't know what fucking planet you think you're on right now," the cop yells before slamming the car door and walking away briefly. He then returns with a traffic ticket and berates the driver again, demanding to know how long he's been in the country.

Doesn't it make you feel safer knowing fucktards like this are protecting you?



Posted by TPRJones on Apr. 01 2015,11:22
Serious question: is the problem that (almost) only assholes become cops, or does being a cop turn one into an asshole?

It only matters in terms of how the problem would need to be solved.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2015,11:28
If there was a job that entailed catching murderers, thieves, and rapists without enforcing all the other bullshit on the books, I might actually sign up ...

QUOTE
Serious question: is the problem that (almost) only assholes become cops, or does being a cop turn one into an asshole?

... so I'm thinking it's the first one (which also explains why you don't see many current cops speaking out against absurd abuses of power like this).  Well, coupled with nowhere near enough oversight given the amount of power a cop has over your average citizen.  Who watches the cops?  Other cops.  I'm sure there's never been coercion of a conflict of interests there.  Who makes the rules the cops play by?  Oh yeah, the dudes that control the cop purse strings.  That encourages open dialog with upper management, I'm certain.  The job is set up such that only the people who make matters worse are let through the door.  Microsoft sets up its interview process, I swear to jeebus, specifically to filter OUT the people that might let them gain ground on Google and the other competitors killing them in various product fields.  Politicians elected today are virtually the last fucking people on the planet that should be allowed into gov't.

If your job's turning you into someone you don't like, most people quit the job.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 02 2015,10:24
< Florida > DoC workers plot to kill black dude.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 02 2015,10:29
Cops are usually pretty quick to claim DoC people aren't cops.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 02 2015,10:37

(GORDON @ Apr. 02 2015,12:29)
QUOTE
Cops are usually pretty quick to claim DoC people aren't cops.

All cogs in the same bullshit, broken system.  One gets to be corrupt inside the walls, one outside.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 04 2015,11:52
In a red letter day for the U.S. Justice system:

< Dude with shitty lawyer goes free > ... after three decades.  He was on death row, by the way.
QUOTE
The Supreme Court last year ruled that Hinton had "constitutionally deficient" representation at his initial trial. Hinton's defense lawyer wrongly thought he had only $1,000 to hire a ballistics expert to try to rebut the prosecution evidence, according the court opinion. Hinton's lawyer hired the only person willing to take the job at that price, even though he had concerns about the expert's credentials.

Justice is blind, it certainly doesn't favour those with cash.

< Elderly Oklahoma cop > mistakes gun for tazer.  
QUOTE
Reserve Deputy Robert Bates, a 73-year-old former police officer, was trying to help officers take Harris into custody when he fired his gun, the statement said.

Better this dude than the guy he was going to "shine his flashlight on" during his next bullshit traffic stop.

< Pigots >, my new term for bigoted pigs, put over 1K cases into question.
QUOTE
District Attorney George Gascon said his office plans to review any cases over the past decade that were linked to the implicated officers, according to the AP. He said the review could include more than 1,000 cases in which an officer wrote a report, submitted evidence or testified in court.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 05 2015,14:39
American police killed over 100 people in March.

< http://thinkprogress.org/justice....s-march >

Police in the U.K. have killed fewer than 100 people in the last century.

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....Kingdom >


I hate it when I agree with lefties about something.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 05 2015,14:54
QUOTE
Police in the U.K. have killed fewer than 100 people in the last century.

That's mainly because they haven't been walking around with guns for a bit.

QUOTE
American police killed over 100 people in March.
...
A 43-year-old, mentally ill, Skid Row resident was shot and killed by two officers who were responding to a reported theft. In a cell phone video, four cops tried to subdue Africa, who refused to comply with [their] demands. The officers pinned the suspect to the ground and ordered him to drop his gun, even though he was unarmed. Within seconds, two officers fired their guns.

WHAT THE FUCK?  Were they reenacting the scene from Robocop when dude got killed in the board room?  Going to be a lot of paid vacations, slaps on the wrists, and transfers over that one.



Posted by GORDON on Apr. 05 2015,17:29

(Malcolm @ Apr. 05 2015,17:54)
QUOTE
QUOTE
Police in the U.K. have killed fewer than 100 people in the last century.

That's mainly because they haven't been walking around with guns for a bit.

Yeah, which is the point.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 06 2015,13:05
< Paid vacations on the way >.
QUOTE
A manslaughter trial opened on Monday for a Cleveland police officer accused of shooting dead two unarmed suspects as he stood on the hood of their car and fired through the windshield after a high-speed chase.

Michael Brelo, 31, fired 49 times at Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams in the November 2012 incident, prosecutors said. Police officers fired a total of 137 shots in the incident.

By the book, no doubt.  137 shots to "subdue" two UNARMED suspects.  Sounds legit.

QUOTE
Prosecutors said no weapon was found and the sounds officers thought were shots coming from the car were probably the three-decade old vehicle's engine backfiring.

Cleveland's finest.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 08 2015,10:26
< Pig > up on murder charges for going Dirty Harry on an unarmed man at a traffic stop.  About fucking time.
QUOTE
The county coroner's office did not immediately return ABC News' calls about how many times Scott was hit, but Stewart told ABC News that of the eight fired shots, four hit Scott in the back and one hit him in the ear. The attorney said two of the shots were fatal.

Half your rounds were into his back.  But it gets better.

QUOTE
The case is being investigated by the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division. Slager has been placed on administrative leave indefinitely though that was not a mandatory reaction; his placement on administrative leave was decided by his police department and not by state law.

That's right, South Carolina is otherwise fine with having suspected murderers working for their force.

QUOTE
"This is a very tragic event for all of the families," Slager's attorney David Aylor said Sunday in a statement released to ABC News affiliate WCIV in Charleston.

"Officer Slager believes he followed all the proper procedures and policies of the North Charleston Police Department," Aylor's statement said.

Whew.  At least he shot him in the back four times by the book.  Based on those last two things, I find it astounding not one statement from the cops is "Hmm, maybe our rules just plain suck balls."  You'll also notice no response from any national, state, or local cop group or any cop at all.  The bare minimum of PR control is from the mayor.  I wonder how many other "criminals" this particular asshole in blue has fucked over in the course of his no doubt illustrious career.



Posted by Vince on Apr. 08 2015,10:38

(GORDON @ Apr. 05 2015,16:39)
QUOTE
American police killed over 100 people in March.

< http://thinkprogress.org/justice....s-march >

Eh... if you actually go to the list and read through some of the stories, you get a bit of a mixed bag.  One guy was shot and killed while in the act of an armed robbery where he'd killed a convenience store clerk.  So I have no bad feelings at all towards the police on that one.

One was a cop that was accidentally killed during a firearm exercise by another cop.

One was a guy that killed himself by running into a concrete barrier while running from the police.

That was just checking the first 5 or 6.

So I don't think that number would hold up to scrutiny if you went through the entire list.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 08 2015,14:31

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 09 2015,10:25
< Asshole > murderer cop's defense:
QUOTE
Slager, who joined the department in 2009, had no prior record of discipline for improper use of force, according to his department file. Before his arrest, he said through an attorney that he feared for his life when he shot Scott.
...
In the footage, Scott can be seen running from Slager as the patrolman aims his weapon and begins firing. It was the 11th time this year an officer has been involved in a shooting in South Carolina.

Your life's in danger because someone's running FROM you?  That's a fucking new one.  Good thing you haven't been at the starting lines for any races recently.  Again, not a single statement I've read suggesting there's an inherent problem with how cops are trained and supervised has come from a cop.  I guess the rest of them think everything's dandy.



Posted by Vince on Apr. 10 2015,09:05
< Deputies beat fleeing man on horseback >

The Yahoo link said "Deputies caught on video beating fleeing horseman".  I thought, if it's one of THE horsemen then I'd probably be okay with that.  Kicking the snot out of Famine or something like that.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 10 2015,10:32
< Pig steals > $3K during raid.  Probably never happened anywhere before.  Certainly never covered up by other cops.
QUOTE
Ali Abdullah, the store's manager, noticed the money was gone from a box, but assumed it was taken by one of his employees. When he checked the cameras he couldn't believe what he saw, he told News 12 Brooklyn.
...
His supervisor Sgt. Fritz Glemaud, who was heading the raid, was placed on modified duty, Davis said.

Wow.  Modified.  That's harsh.  Anyone else who stole three grand from a convenience store would be bailing out by now or sitting in a cell.  Also nice to hear the outrage from all the good, just coworkers this corrupt asshole has.

EDIT: Apparently, the guy on modified duty was the asshole's supervisor.  The asshole himself?
QUOTE
Cyrus, who is under investigation by the internal affairs bureau, could not be reached for comment.

Which means he's probably still out there with a badge right now.

EDITx2: Nope.
QUOTE
New York police detective Ian Cyrus has been suspended pending internal investigation

One assumes with pay.



Posted by Vince on Apr. 10 2015,10:51

(Malcolm @ Apr. 10 2015,12:32)
QUOTE
Wow.  Modified.  That's harsh.  Anyone else who stole three grand from a convenience store would be bailing out by now or sitting in a cell.  Also nice to hear the outrage from all the good, just coworkers this corrupt asshole has.

I blame unions in New York for the whole "modified duty" thing.  I remember a story about a teacher that'd had inappropriate contact with minors that they couldn't fire so he was sitting in an office reading the newspaper not teaching all day and staying on the payroll.
Posted by TPRJones on Apr. 10 2015,12:05
QUOTE
I remember a story about a teacher that'd had inappropriate contact with minors that they couldn't fire...

Well, the next question there is why were no charges filed?  Statutory rape is a crime after all.

Posted by Vince on Apr. 10 2015,12:56

(TPRJones @ Apr. 10 2015,14:05)
QUOTE
QUOTE
I remember a story about a teacher that'd had inappropriate contact with minors that they couldn't fire...

Well, the next question there is why were no charges filed?  Statutory rape is a crime after all.

I don't remember the specifics, to be honest.  This was some years ago.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 10 2015,16:19

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 10 2015,16:36

(TheCatt @ Apr. 10 2015,18:19)
QUOTE

QUOTE
Well if society wasn't made up of mostly criminals, there wouldn't be any problem.

Every cop's response.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 12 2015,11:13
QUOTE
Elderly Oklahoma cop mistakes gun for tazer.


< Remember >, cops care.

QUOTE
Moments later, the video reveals, Harris realizes he’s been shot.

“He shot me! He shot me, man. Oh, my god. I’m losing my breath,” a panicked Harris yells as an officer places his knee on the bleeding man’s head.

“F— your breath,” a callous officer can be heard saying. “Shut the f— up!”

Instead of tending to the gunshot wound, a second deputy yells at Harris.

“You shouldn’t have f—–g ran!” the man screams.

To serve with compassion, my ass.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 12 2015,11:15
< Stupidest fucking > cops in the world fund some 12-year old hackers.
QUOTE
A Maine county sheriff says the county and four area police departments recently paid a ransom after a virus locked the computer system they use to keep records and share files.

I'm sure the file was downloaded by the book.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 14 2015,13:35
< Cop causes season-ending injury >.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 19 2015,10:29
< FBI admits > one of their units screwed over everyone for about twenty years.
QUOTE
The Justice Department and FBI have formally acknowledged that nearly every examiner in the FBI Laboratory's microscopic hair comparison unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000, The Washington Post reported.
...
The cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death; of those, 14 have been executed or died in prison, the Post reported in a story posted on its website.

I'll bet everything I own that not one of the fuckers is charged and convicted of any sort of wrongful death crime.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 19 2015,10:32
< Dude > arrested by cops, taken to station, then mysteriously ends up dead half an hour later.
QUOTE
Gray’s family has said he sustained spinal injuries.

The incident is under investigation, and the officers are on routine administrative leave.

Weird how his spine was fucked considering all the cops said he was running.  Must mean it was working fine before they got a hold of him.  Ah, "routine" administrative leave.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 20 2015,10:21
< Old dude > brought up on charges.
QUOTE
The sheriff said his department was still trying to find all the training records for the reserve deputy, Robert Bates, a 73-year-old former insurance executive who volunteered with the department.

Someone explain to me why the cops need to employ retirees and arm them with deadly weapons.

< Pigs > that probably beat a suspect to death are being investigated.
QUOTE
Gray died at the hospital Sunday morning following reports that “his spine was 80 percent severed at his neck,” his family attorney Billy Murphy said in a statement to The Sun.
...
The report contradicts the statement from Murphy, the family attorney, who said Sunday that Gray “screamed in pain” during the arrest and was in police custody for at least an hour before medics were called.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 21 2015,10:35
< Pig > pleads not guilty to body slamming an old man into concrete.
QUOTE
Patel was left partly paralyzed. He was transferred from Madison Hospital to Huntsville Hospital where he underwent spinal surgery.

Why won't any one of these fuckers would grow some balls, admit their fuck up, and plead guilty?  Oh yeah, because they followed procedure.  Pretty sure if a cop got left partially paralyzed from a suspect, that dude might not make it out of his holding cell alive.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 22 2015,10:11

(Malcolm @ Apr. 20 2015,12:21)
QUOTE
< Pigs > that probably beat a suspect to death are being investigated.
QUOTE
Gray died at the hospital Sunday morning following reports that “his spine was 80 percent severed at his neck,” his family attorney Billy Murphy said in a statement to The Sun.
...
The report contradicts the statement from Murphy, the family attorney, who said Sunday that Gray “screamed in pain” during the arrest and was in police custody for at least an hour before medics were called.

DoJ involved.  Pigs' official story hasn't changed.
QUOTE
A police report reveals that Gray was stopped April 12 because he "fled unprovoked upon noticing police presence" and that officers placed him under arrest after a knife was found clipped to the inside of his front pants pocket. "The defendant was arrested without force or incident the report stated. "During transport to Western District via wagon transport the defendant suffered a medical emergency and was immediately transported to Shock Trauma via medic."

A medical emergency that nearly severed his spine.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 24 2015,10:17
< No strong arming here >.
QUOTE
An official has said sheriff's investigators went to the homes of 70 county and court staffers on nights and weekends in 2009 to try to intimidate them.
...
A federal grand jury investigated Arpaio's office for nearly three years on criminal abuse-of-power allegations, specifically examining the work of the sheriff's anti-public corruption squad that investigated the officials. The grand jury inquiry ended in 2012 without charges being filed.
...
An attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union played recordings of TV interviews, including a 2012 segment on Fox News in which the sheriff called out the Obama administration over its immigration policies and said he would keep arresting immigrants in the country illegally.

Arpaio apologized again for disregarding the 2011 order to stop the patrols and has acknowledged ignoring it for 18 months.

Awesome.  So this asshole can decide to arrest people in direct violation of orders and receive no punishment.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 25 2015,09:40
< Cops > decide the mentally ill aren't worth taking care of.
QUOTE
Harris County Sheriff Adrian Garcia fired six jailers and suspended 29 other jailers, and his second-in-commander, Chief Deputy Fred Brown, will be resigning at the end of the month

So, let's get that ratio right.  That's 6 + 29 + 1 = 36 asshole correction officers and cops on one hand.  Then there's one cop that cleaned house who responded with this damning quote:
QUOTE
Garcia said that while is it is never “pleasurable” to discipline employees, they failed to take the necessary action and it led to conditions that “no inmate should be subejcted to.”

Wow, harsh words.  Granted, you're the dude that let this happen for at least a year and a half, but at least you did something eventually.  Yet again, a ratio of 36 fucking assholes to one perhaps semi-decent cop.  I'm sure these were violent offenders, though.

QUOTE
Goodwin, who is 24, had been booked on a marijuana charge while on probation.

Yeah, a mentally ill dude whowas smoking bud.  Better lock his ass up instead of putting him in a hospital, he's dangerous.

< Baltimore > not exactly thrilled with unexplained spinal injuries while in police custody.
QUOTE
The planned demonstrations come a day after police said Gray did not receive medical attention early enough after being taken into custody and that Gray was not buckled into a seat when he was transported in a police van after he was arrested April 12.

Hey, Baltimore department of Asshole Police, you've had two weeks to explain how a guy that could run before he met these fuckos suddenly died due to massive spinal trauma.  Maybe if you'd shed some light on that, people would stop asking so many questions.

QUOTE
Davis said when the officers caught up with Gray and arrested him, he should have received medical attention then. Davis did not explain why.

Gray asked for medical help several times, beginning before he was placed in the van. After a 30-minute ride that included three stops, paramedics were called. Authorities have not explained how or when Gray's spine was injured.

Seriously, you pricks in blue, you've had a long enough time to provide some answers.  You know who takes this long to explain shit like this?  Motherfuckers trying to cover things up.  How long does it take to go over thirty minutes of time from the perspective of a few lying douchebags?



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 27 2015,10:30
< Dead guy > put into ground.  Still no word from any pig or spokespig about how he ended up so dead.

< Also >, pig resigns after it's rather clear he kept around a reserve deputy that couldn't do his job.
QUOTE
Albin, a 20-year veteran of the sheriff’s office, was named in a 2009 internal investigation released last weekend that showed deputies had expressed concerns about Bates’ performance. Some claimed Albin gave Bates preferential treatment and intimidated those who raised concerns.

I'm sure the dude he shot and killed and his family will understand your cronyism.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 28 2015,10:32
< Because cops are dicks > internationally.
QUOTE
A Portuguese court ruled on Tuesday that a former investigator of the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine McCann pay 500,000 euros damages to her parents for alleging in a book that the girl had died in an accident and the McCanns had covered it up.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 30 2015,10:21
< Lying, asshole > FBI pig committed perjury for famous mobster.
QUOTE
Fitzpatrick has said he quit the FBI in disgust over corruption, but the indictment charges that he left after being demoted for falsifying reports related to his investigation of an unrelated shooting.

Wonder how many people are wrongly behind bars or on death row because of this fucko.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 30 2015,10:22
< Incompetent pigs > go to wrong house to investigate burglary.  Then they shoot a dog because, well, that's just what cops do when there aren't any non-whites around.  The chief is also lying about it to cover up.
QUOTE
Fox said Ferreira knocked when he arrived at the house.

But if that were true, said Goran Vukobratovic, Ivan's father, Ferriera would have immediately been aware of Otto's presence.

"If he knocked or rang the bell, the dog would bark like crazy," he said. "That's the threshold."

Otto barks when anyone knocks on the door; when the mailman opens the mailbox, the family said in an interview, just hours after their family dog was pronounced dead.

Goran believes Ferreira never knocked, and that Otto ran out when he heard the gate open.



Posted by Malcolm on May 01 2015,10:11
While some cops are too stupid to know the difference between a stun gun and a real gun, some avoid the whole problem by < leaving their gear in the toilet >, and occasionally < leaving behind explosives >.


Posted by Malcolm on May 02 2015,10:26
< Manslaughter defense >: "There were totally other cops shooting, too.  You can't tell if my specific bullets killed anyone."
Posted by Malcolm on May 05 2015,10:20
< Starbucks > give a free cup of coffee to a clumsy-ass cop.  Cop says thanks by suing them for fifty large after he spills it on himself.
QUOTE
In the lawsuit, Matthew Kohr, a lieutenant with the Raleigh Police Department, said the lid popped off the cup of coffee he ordered at the Starbucks on Peace Street in January 2012 and the cup collapsed.

Collapsed?


Posted by TPRJones on May 05 2015,11:32
He probably squeezed as an automatic response to the lid suddenly popping off (like, to try to maintain his grip).  Heck, he probably caused the lid to pop off by squeezing it in the first place.
Posted by Malcolm on May 05 2015,12:02

(TPRJones @ May 05 2015,13:32)
QUOTE
He probably squeezed as an automatic response to the lid suddenly popping off (like, to try to maintain his grip).  Heck, he probably caused the lid to pop off by squeezing it in the first place.

I've had a lot of shitty wax paper cups.  Never has one suffered what I'd described as a "collapse."
Posted by GORDON on May 05 2015,12:07
I don't doubt a cup collapsed in his fist.  I do doubt it caused $50k in damages.
Posted by Malcolm on May 05 2015,12:22

(GORDON @ May 05 2015,14:07)
QUOTE
I don't doubt a cup collapsed in his fist.  I do doubt it caused $50k in damages.

Cup of coffee's lucky it wasn't a dog or it would've had four bullets put into it.
Posted by TPRJones on May 05 2015,12:41

(Malcolm @ May 05 2015,14:02)
QUOTE
I've had a lot of shitty wax paper cups.  Never has one suffered what I'd described as a "collapse."

Try holding it in your jerking hand.  That one is stronger.

...

But don't burn yourself.



Posted by Vince on May 06 2015,03:47
< Idaho Officer Dies After Being Shot By Man Who Stole His Patrol Car >
Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2015,12:13
< Fucking lying, asshole pigs > torture people for 19 years.
QUOTE
Even this package is unlikely to put the issue firmly in Chicago's rearview mirror. More and more alleged victims of Burge and his officers continue to come forward with allegations of abuse, and lawyers believe that the number of victims could top out at around 120 men, most of whom are black. More lawsuits may follow.

Yep, no systemic problems here.  Oh, by the way...
QUOTE
He still receives a pension from his time working for the police.

The pig in charge of this still draws cash from taxpayer funds because if there's one thing cops do besides cover up crimes for other cops, it's making sure they still get paid afterwards.

< Cop bites > a guy's balls in a drunken fight.

Cops suck so much at policing, some people have decided to < fill the void >.



Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2015,12:14

(Vince @ May 06 2015,05:47)
QUOTE
< Idaho Officer Dies After Being Shot By Man Who Stole His Patrol Car >

QUOTE
Jonathan Renfro appeared in court Tuesday and was ordered held on $2 million bail.

So, when a cop gets shot it's a $2M bail.  When six cops torture a guy to death, they all walk out on bail.  Seems legit.



Posted by Malcolm on May 07 2015,10:09

(Malcolm @ May 05 2015,12:20)
QUOTE
< Starbucks > give a free cup of coffee to a clumsy-ass cop.  Cop says thanks by suing them for fifty large after he spills it on himself.
QUOTE
In the lawsuit, Matthew Kohr, a lieutenant with the Raleigh Police Department, said the lid popped off the cup of coffee he ordered at the Starbucks on Peace Street in January 2012 and the cup collapsed.

Collapsed?


Dick cop < waited > to go to the ER.
QUOTE
It wasn't until more than two hours after the incident that Kohr went to an urgent care center, Starbucks attorney Tricia Derr emphasized.
...
He is suing the coffee chain for a minimum of $50,000 and as much as $750,000.

Posted by Malcolm on May 08 2015,10:07
< Pig > kicks a guy on the ground in the face.  Video included.  And, holy shit, more fucking lying, asshole pigs lying and being assholes when asked about why they did this.
QUOTE
As Dickerson dropped to his hands and knees, Webster kicked him in the face, knocking him unconscious and breaking his jaw, police said. His yellow hat went flying.

Dickerson was initially charged with assault, theft and resisting arrest, but those were later dropped. Officers did not find a gun at the scene.

His jaw was totally resisting arrest.

QUOTE
Webster was placed on paid administrative leave in November 2013 pending an internal investigation, which found he violated department policy. He returned with full duty in June 2014.

Good thing this vid came out, otherwise that's his punishment.  Break someone's jaw?  Get a paid vacation.  Fuck that entire city's department.  Absolutely no cops are on record saying this is behaviour is unacceptable.

QUOTE
Dover Police Lt. Jason Pires told the Delaware News Journal that the alleged assault is an "isolated incident" in the department, which has 12 black officers and 78 white officers.

Isolated my ass, you deceitful sack of shit.



Posted by Vince on May 10 2015,06:48
< Over the weekend in MS >
Posted by Malcolm on May 10 2015,10:58

(Vince @ May 10 2015,08:48)
QUOTE
< Over the weekend in MS >

Maybe if that state didn't piss away untold time, resources, and personnel on enforcing the fucking stupidest, most wasteful drug policy in the country, someone might still be alive.  But they're content to cram their jails full of non-violent offenders while these guys...
QUOTE
Both Marvin and Curtis Banks reside close to the scene of the shootings in Hattiesburg, where each also has a history of criminal offenses including felony convictions and guns charges.

... got to walk out.

EDIT: < From 2007 >.
QUOTE
There were 10,401 arrests for marijuana offenses in Mississippi in 2007, representing an arrest rate of 356 per 100,000, which ranks Mississippi at number 14 in the nation. There were an estimated 183,000 past year marijuana users in Mississippi during 2007. Reconciling this estimate with the number of arrests for marijuana offenses provides an arrest rate of 5,684 per 100,000 users, which ranks Mississippi at number 4 in the nation.
...
Marijuana arrests also accounted for 42% of all drug arrests in Mississippi during 2007.

Report says it takes about $1 BILLION dollars per year to enforce this bullshit.  Also says ~20% of the crimes in Mississippi get solved.  Gee, I wonder why?

QUOTE
In 2007, marijuana arrests were 42% of all drug arrests in Mississippi. Other drugs such as cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, and synthetic narcotics such as Oxycontin present far more serious threats to both individuals and the public.


God forbid they hammer down on those ex-felons convicted of gun crimes down there, it might take away some resources from arresting people for smoking a joint.



Posted by Malcolm on May 11 2015,10:37

(Malcolm @ May 05 2015,12:20)
QUOTE
< Starbucks > give a free cup of coffee to a clumsy-ass cop.  Cop says thanks by suing them for fifty large after he spills it on himself.
QUOTE
In the lawsuit, Matthew Kohr, a lieutenant with the Raleigh Police Department, said the lid popped off the cup of coffee he ordered at the Starbucks on Peace Street in January 2012 and the cup collapsed.

Collapsed?

< Jury finds cop > can't sue Starbucks.
Posted by Malcolm on May 12 2015,10:30

(Vince @ May 10 2015,08:48)
QUOTE
< Over the weekend in MS >

< This study > may be relevant.
QUOTE
While it is unclear how many lives could have been saved by greater compliance with the safety measures, officials said the gaps underscore a long-standing frustration across law enforcement.

Last year, a coalition of police chiefs and union leaders, citing alarming non-compliance rates, called for mandatory policies for vests and seat restraints.

Posted by Malcolm on May 14 2015,10:25
< State pig > involved in jail brutality indicted on obstructing federal probe into jail brutality.
Posted by Malcolm on May 15 2015,07:42
< San Francisco treat >.
QUOTE
"In the process of looking at the text messages, increasingly I became uneasy that this may not be localized to the 14 officers that were being reported, but that we may have some systemic issues," [San Francisco District Attorney George] Gascon said.

No shit.  Someone finally admits it.  Hell, he's from a state the normally destroys the rights of citizens, too.



Posted by Malcolm on May 15 2015,14:52
< ICE agent > shoots a guy in the back.  
QUOTE
Police have said Kellom lunged at ICE agent Mitchell Quinn with a hammer before he was shot in his father's west side home. His father, Kevin Kellom, has disputed the police account.


Everyone would love to resolve this but...
QUOTE
An autopsy determined he had been shot multiple times, but Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy ordered the autopsy report not be made public.
...
Mitchell said the release of the autopsy report "would create outrage" ... "because of how many times" Kellom was shot "and where he was shot."


Sure everything's on the up and up.



Posted by Vince on May 20 2015,18:22
< Omaha Police Officer Shot While Serving Warrant Dies; Suspect Also Killed >
Posted by Malcolm on May 20 2015,19:24
A) Dear god, that's one of the most obnoxious websites I've seen advert-wise in a long time.  Is anything on that fucker NOT using Flash?  Do they render each individual text character using Adobe?

B) No one argues cops get shot at and killed in the line of duty.  The problem is they seem to see LOTS of people as viable targets, not just murderers, rapists, and thieves.  People who run from them are fair game.  Non-violent criminals deserve mandatory minimum sentences.  Quotas have to be met and budgets must be filled.  Am I sorry someone lost a brother/husband/son/father?  Yeah.  Am I sorry there's one less cop out there to contribute to a culture of covering up for other corrupt cops enforcing completely bullshit laws and contributing to the other bureaucratic bullshit I just mentioned?  Hell, fuck, no.  Not until that piece of shit system gets tossed out and a proper one brought in.



Posted by GORDON on May 20 2015,19:37
Read somewhere that among all professions, policeman is nowhere near the most dangerous, as for personal injury or death.
Posted by Malcolm on May 20 2015,20:52

(GORDON @ May 20 2015,21:37)
QUOTE
Read somewhere that among all professions, policeman is nowhere near the most dangerous, as for personal injury or death.

Nowhere near as dangerous as being a dog around a cop.
Posted by Malcolm on May 21 2015,10:24
< Dude's conviction overturned >, after a mere 3 decades behind bars.
QUOTE
C.M. Martin, the detective who arrested McAlister, said that as he became aware of Derr, he began to have doubts about McAlister's guilt.
...
Despite no DNA evidence, however, McAlister was convicted of the crime after the victim picked his photograph out of a police lineup. Derr was not included in the lineup even though he lived close by, looked similar to McAlister and was suspected by authorities of being a sexual predator.

That's some top notch police and prosecution work there.  I'm sure they had a lot of pressing drug possession and traffic violation cases to get through.



Posted by Malcolm on May 21 2015,11:23
< Minneapolis cop > beats the shit out of some guys in two separate incidents, then lies about it, and gets them in trouble.


Posted by Malcolm on May 21 2015,11:27
< Attica!  Attica! >
QUOTE
The documents released Thursday, two years after state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman sought the disclosure, say several witnesses to brutal crimes against prisoners weren’t contacted or interviewed by criminal investigators. They show apparent violent crimes by authorities, described by neutral eyewitnesses, after police and guards fatally shot 29 inmates and 10 hostages and 1,300 inmates surrendered after their riot and five-day standoff at the maximum-security prison in western New York.

Good to know the law enforcement community is as honest and forthcoming now as it was then.  One wonders if law enforcement is even capable of enforcing some laws without breaking others.



Posted by Vince on May 25 2015,02:48
< New Orleans Cop Shot Dead in Cruiser >
Posted by TPRJones on May 26 2015,11:41
Are you calling an officer that died in the line of duty with no evidence of any improper action on his part a dick?

I don't understand.  Why?

Posted by Malcolm on May 27 2015,10:16
< Cops pose with the deer they caught >.  No wait, that's just a black guy they dressed up in antlers.
QUOTE
Although the picture was taken more than a decade ago, it led the police board to fire McDermott in a vote last year.

I'm sure Officer Douchebag McDermott has never let his personal opinions affect his job in the decade since that photo was taken.  But how about the other guy, he's on the up and up, I bet.
QUOTE
The city of Chicago handed the picture over to federal authorities in 2013 — two years after Finnigan was sentenced to 12 years in prison for leading a group of other cops in robberies and home invasions.

Chicago's finest.

< Cleveland > cops need rules written in big letters and small words, preferably with brightly coloured illustrations.
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Cleveland police won't be able to hit people over the head with guns, except when lethal force is justified.

The federal government discovered a Cleveland officer, in plain clothes, struck a man they call "Eric" on the head with a gun, and the firearm went off.

Brilliant.

QUOTE
A Department of Justice review in December of policing in Cleveland found the use of unreasonable force was part of a pattern of behavior among police that was in some cases endorsed by supervisors.

Yep, no systemic problems or civil rights violations here.



Posted by Malcolm on May 28 2015,10:20
< Pig beats the shit > out of a guy at a traffic stop, threatens his life, costs the city over $1M, and gets fired.  What does he say?
QUOTE
He [Melendez] denies wrongdoing.

Completely 100% infallible even in the face of video evidence.

Posted by Malcolm on May 29 2015,10:16
< Ignorant > asshole pig slams a woman to the ground who's 8 months pregnant.  They had ZERO legal justification.  But hey, they're just cops who enforce they laws, how can they be expected to know them?
QUOTE
Cooks had refused to fully identify herself during her initial contact with the officer for an alleged road-rage incident, so he moved in to arrest her.

“Do not touch me. I am pregnant. Do not touch me,” she told the officer as he grabbed her arms.

The office then wrestled Cooks to the ground as she screamed, “Please, I am pregnant! Please stop this!” Cooks was face-down on the ground.
...
The ACLU says Cooks’ arrest was unlawful because California law does not require a person to provide an ID and a person can refuse.
...
“I actually do have the right to ask you for your name,” the officer said.

No, you don't, dickbag.



Posted by TheCatt on May 29 2015,10:56
He has the right to ASK, she has the right to REFUSE.
Posted by Malcolm on May 29 2015,11:03

(TheCatt @ May 29 2015,12:56)
QUOTE
He has the right to ASK, she has the right to REFUSE.

No, cops seem to think you should drop your pants, get down on all fours in front of them, and even make sure your asshole is lubed up before they decide to fuck you.
Posted by Malcolm on May 31 2015,09:48
< Cops kill 2.6 people a day >.
QUOTE
Eighty percent of victims were carrying potentially lethal weapons, the Post reports. Forty-nine of the 385 victims were unarmed; 13 were carrying toys that were mistaken for real guns. Eight of the victims were children younger than 18.

Twenty percent of unarmed victims were killed while fleeing police. An officer has been charged with a crime in just three of the 385 shootings.

A tightly rolled up magazine is potentially lethal.  An empty glass bottle is potentially lethal.

Now, this is from info compiled by the Washington Post.  That's necessary because pig departments nationwide generally don't release these numbers to the public.
QUOTE
“These shootings are grossly under­reported,” Jim Bueermann, president of the Washington-based Police Foundation, a nonprofit police reform organization, and himself a former police chief, said. “We are never going to reduce the number of police shootings if we don’t begin to accurately track this information.”

Good luck getting traction with that, Jim.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 03 2015,10:15
< Pig > buys diamond ring on dead dude's credit card.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 08 2015,10:10
< Pig goes up on murder charge >.  In spite of clear video evidence, there's not one member of the law enforcement mafia that'll suggest anything was done wrong.

QUOTE
If convicted, Slager faces 30 years to life in prison with no possibility of parole, Wilson said.

While South Carolina does have the death penalty, Wilson has previously said the former officer was unlikely to face that because there were no “aggravating circumstances” present. The South Carolina state code states that the death penalty can only be imposed in certain cases, like when the person who is killed is a child or law enforcement officer.

That's fair.  Kill a cop, execution's on the table.  Cop kills you?  No, you're not important enough.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 08 2015,12:02
< Pigs in NY > "justice" system hold a kid for 3 years without any conviction, beat and torture the fuck out of him.  Shockingly, he hung himself.
QUOTE
Browder spent more than 400 days in solitary confinement.

He was released from Rikers in May 2013 when charges were dropped.

In April, shocking Rikers security footage from September 2012 surfaced showing a correction officer slamming Browder to a cellblock floor and pummeling him. Other footage from 2010, showed Browder being beaten by 10 teen inmates in a wild brawl.

No systemic problems here.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 08 2015,12:04
< Texas cop > talked back to by 14-year old girl in bathing suit chucks her to the ground.  Pulls gun on other teens in the area.
QUOTE
“If they would have sat down and listened, no one would have been thrown to the ground,” said another user. “The police need to control the situation, fast.”

That's right, boys and girls.  Just do everything the cops tell you to, and life will be easier for everyone.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 09 2015,10:19
< Even > meter maids are dicks.  Because the cash from the meters isn't enough, they need the parking tickets.  The argument?  The people giving their quarters away were creating a hostile environment for workers who have to perform the vital duty of sucking as much revenue from the local populous as humanly possible.
QUOTE
In 2013, the city of Keene sought to impose a buffer zone preventing the activists from interacting with or recording the officers on the grounds that they were creating a hostile work environment and thereby interfering with its contract with the employees.

Choke on a roll of pennies, you greedy dickbags.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 09 2015,10:30
< Undercover pig spectates > during a gang assault.  As in "present and watched a guy get the shit kicked out of him."  Manages to avoid first-degree assault charges by some magical bullshit reasoning.
QUOTE
On Sept. 29, 2013, Messrs. Braszczok, now 34 years old, and Sims, now 36, were among a group of bikers who chased down a Range Rover in the Washington Heights section of Manhattan. The SUV driver, Alexian Lien, was pulled out of the vehicle and pummeled while his wife and 2-year-old daughter cowered in the car.
...
On the witness stand, Mr. Braszczok, who was undercover investigating the Occupy Wall Street movement, said he had chased after Mr. Lien because he saw the driver fleeing the scene of an accident. Mr. Braszczok said he later left the scene of the beating because he feared for his safety.

Protecting and serving = watching a gang of bikers brutalize someone in front of their family and not doing one goddamn thing about it.  Then there's this:

QUOTE
Justice Maxwell Wiley found both defendants guilty of lesser charges of second-degree assault, coercion, and riot. Mr. Sims was additionally found guilty of attempted gang assault and attempted first-degree assault.

Model cops.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 10 2015,10:15
< It's open season > < on the mentally ill >.


Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 10 2015,10:40
< NYC top cop > complains it's hard to hire black officers ... because so many have criminal backgrounds.  Gee, I wonder how that happened...
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 11 2015,07:19
You know, I have my own opinions about these things, but I still don't think people should be losing their jobs for expressing theirs.

< http://www.nola.com/crime....po.html >

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 11 2015,07:27
Yeah, it's not even an election year.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 11 2015,09:36
Hmmmm.  If it were a private company he'd have no case, but since he was working for the government there's a reasonable chance their letting him go for that is a violation of his First Amendment rights.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 11 2015,09:40
They didn't let him go.  They "reassigned" him.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 11 2015,10:12
< This just in >: all violent crime and theft in Texas officially solved.  Because cops have nothing better to do but shut down lemonade stands that belong to preteens.

< Also open season on the homeless >.  Two officers versus one (probably crazy) homeless dude who wasn't making any advances towards them.  Hobo ends up dead with five slugs in him.  Video plus literally dozens of witnesses.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 17 2015,10:13
< Off-duty cops > shoots his ex-wife in the head in front of his daughter.
QUOTE
“He had a temper but I wouldn’t say to the extreme, but he had a temper. I’ve seen it before,” said Tamara Seidle’s Godson Jameen Murphy.
...
Seidle has served on the force for 22 years.

I wonder how many people he arrested found out he had one.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 20 2015,17:50
< Man tries to wave down cop > with towel.  Cop thinks he has a gun.  Shoots him and handcuffs him while he's bleeding.
QUOTE
After the man was shot unconscious, graphic video captured by bystanders shows the officers rolling the man onto this front, his skull flap partially off, and handcuffing him.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 21 2015,10:54

(Malcolm @ Jun. 20 2015,19:50)
QUOTE
< Man tries to wave down cop > with towel.  Cop thinks he has a gun.  Shoots him and handcuffs him while he's bleeding.
QUOTE
After the man was shot unconscious, graphic video captured by bystanders shows the officers rolling the man onto this front, his skull flap partially off, and handcuffing him.

< Confirmed >.  Pig shot a dude armed with a deadly towel.  No gun recovered.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 22 2015,06:04
That's absolutely ridiculous.  At this point any parent teaching their children that cops are there to help them is putting their lives in danger.  At best one should try to avoid cops entirely under all circumstances.  Certainly never try to attract one's attention if help is needed.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 22 2015,07:25
Number of other pigs speaking out against this behaviour or these actions ... approximately the same as the number of books authored by Mr. Ed.  Fucking zero.  Blue wall of silence and assholes.


Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 22 2015,12:24
< Detroit pigs > take offense to people recording them.
QUOTE
In June of last year, Mekkel Richards and Adam Malinowski saw police arresting a man. According to the lawsuit, the man was yelling for help and bleeding. Richards stood about 25 feet away and began recording a video. Malinowski stood about 10 feet closer and recorded on his cell phone as well.

Richards and Malinowski claim that an officer approached them and told them, "Put your phone away, you can't be videotaping." Richards retreated a few steps but continued to record. The officer allegedly shoved Richards onto his back and punched him in the face.

Malinowski also moved back but also continued to record until another officer reportedly charged him, put him in a headlock, and slammed him to the ground. Malinowski and Richards claim that they were handcuffed and arrested. Meanwhile officers destroyed Malinowski's cell phone and deleted video from Richards' cell phone.

No illegal tampering with evidence to see here.  Move along.



Posted by Vince on Jun. 22 2015,19:19
< Photo Captures Action Officer Took to Distract Little Girl From Fatal Accident That Killed Her Dad >
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,03:44
Again I fail to see how this cop is being a dick.

I don't think you understand the point of this thread.

Unless you are trying to say that the occasional good cop makes up for all the actions of the bad ones, but that would be silly and illogical.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,04:00
No, the tenor of this thread seems to be that all cops are dicks and we'd would be better off without them and I'm trying to inject some balance.  Society as a whole here in the US seems to be going after cops with a gusto and there are groups that are not the grass roots uprisings that we're being led to believe.  Many of them are being paid and you have to ask yourself why?  To what purpose?

Look at Baltimore and I think you have your answer.  Police being called to a disturbance and suddenly there are 20 to 30 people threatening them so they just move on.  Murder rate jumped through the roof because bad guys don't feel like the cops are coming.  Or at least not in time to catch them.  And the community isn't going to talk with them.

Society is beginning to fray at the edges and we're starting to push the cops away from those areas which is only going to allow things to break down entirely.  Sadly there are too many standing around cheering this tearing down of all cops and these are the same fools that are wondering where they are in Baltimore.  If we don't keep some perspective, we're going to end up in a bad place with no one to call.

Bitching is easy.  Solutions are hard.  I understand the point of this thread, but I will continue to inject some balance to it the same way I would in a thread about how bad black people are.

Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,07:54
Damn it.  I made a long insightful post that the browser ate.  I don't feel like recreating it.

tl,dr version: Only 1 in 1,000 cops being bad is still way too many and we're far far away from that being the case.  Go ahead and keep posting your occasional note about a cop doing his job properly, it just help highlight how bad the situation is when they're so much more rare than the bad cops.

QUOTE
Bitching is easy.  Solutions are hard.

Put me in charge and I'll have it fixed in no time.

What?  You can't put me in charge?  Then I don't see how you or I will be a part of the solution.  In the meantime, though, I still intend to complain when cops slay innocent unarmed civilians because they are more concerned about controlling a situation than protecting and serving.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,08:01

(Vince @ Jun. 22 2015,21:19)
QUOTE
< Photo Captures Action Officer Took to Distract Little Girl From Fatal Accident That Killed Her Dad >

If cops showed as much concern for everyone, not just little old ladies or small girls, I'd give them more slack.  The ones I've met and interacted with have been 99.9% fucking assholes who belong behind bars with the rest of the criminals.  They have the mentality of mafia thugs, a willingness to commit crimes to cover up for each other usually not seen outside of street gangs, and attitudes towards civilians that were outdated and idiotic back when Hammurabi wrote his laws in stone.

QUOTE
Look at Baltimore and I think you have your answer.  Police being called to a disturbance and suddenly there are 20 to 30 people threatening them so they just move on.  Murder rate jumped through the roof because bad guys don't feel like the cops are coming.  Or at least not in time to catch them.  And the community isn't going to talk with them.

Baltimore's in trouble because their cops decided to be fucking dickweeds and cash in the public trust in exchange for kickbacks and beating the shit out of suspects.  Had they NOT been acting like assholes for decades, people in Baltimore wouldn't equate calling the cops with calling in more people likely to shoot or rob them.



Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,08:05
I agree that 1 in 1,000 being bad is a low ball.  But cops doing their job properly is no different than you doing your job properly.  You're not likely to get much press for doing what you're supposed to do.  Even cops that do something very brave and heroic aren't going to get a nationwide story the way the screw up does.  No one tunes into the news for the happy and uplifting stories.

By way of example, I'll be leaving this company at the end of July.  Lots of people hating to see me go and have been told by two supervisors that I'll be leaving a huge hole in skills and knowledge with the group.  After 10 years of doing a good job, I just recently got an "Atta boy" from a store I was working with.  And that one wasn't for anything specific, but just that store manager wanting my supervisor to know I ALWAYS do a good job for him.  So the ratio of good stories to bad stories isn't representative to ratio of good cops to bad cops.

For instance, judging by the number of stories in the last week about people that display the rebel battle flag, you'd think that we're near 100% of them shooting black people in Bible study meetings.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,08:05

(Malcolm @ Jun. 23 2015,10:01)
QUOTE

(Vince @ Jun. 22 2015,21:19)
QUOTE
< Photo Captures Action Officer Took to Distract Little Girl From Fatal Accident That Killed Her Dad >

If cops showed as much concern for everyone, not just little old ladies or small girls, I'd give them more slack.  The ones I've met and interacted with have been 99.9% fucking assholes who belong behind bars with the rest of the criminals.  They have the mentality of mafia thugs, a willingness to commit crimes to cover up for each other usually not seen outside of street gangs, and attitudes towards civilians that were outdated and idiotic back when Hammurabi wrote his laws in stone.

But you discount the possibility that they treat you that way because you're an asshole ;-)
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,08:09

(Vince @ Jun. 23 2015,10:05)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jun. 23 2015,10:01)
QUOTE

(Vince @ Jun. 22 2015,21:19)
QUOTE
< Photo Captures Action Officer Took to Distract Little Girl From Fatal Accident That Killed Her Dad >

If cops showed as much concern for everyone, not just little old ladies or small girls, I'd give them more slack.  The ones I've met and interacted with have been 99.9% fucking assholes who belong behind bars with the rest of the criminals.  They have the mentality of mafia thugs, a willingness to commit crimes to cover up for each other usually not seen outside of street gangs, and attitudes towards civilians that were outdated and idiotic back when Hammurabi wrote his laws in stone.

But you discount the possibility that they treat you that way because you're an asshole ;-)

The difference is I didn't take an oath to protect and serve public assholes.  If they can't handle that oath, maybe they should pick another career instead of half-assing the one they got.  Do I get to taze cops when they get uppity during traffic stops so I can "gain control of the situation?"  Can I torture suspects (not necessarily people who've committed crimes, but anyone I think might) while my precinct and union full of fellow asshole, lying pigs all stand behind the pathetic illusion of police infallibility and protect my fascist self?  Fucking hell, I've seen more Crips and Bloods break rank and dissent over fucked up drive-bys than I've seen from the pigs and pigots regarding any single one of their kills.

For the record, I think society needs proper law and order.  Which is why I think the US Justice system can burn in hell.  If the 75-90% of the law which is there to steal money and time from non-criminals could get dropped, or if, against all odds, pigs would grow testicles and refuse to enforce such bullshit or the state pigs would refuse to prosecute such bullshit, I might change my mind.  They've clearly drawn their lines and they want to use and abuse the general public as much as they can get away with.  They're also under the self-delusion that they're serving the public instead of their own sense of morality.  Fuck 'em all.



Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,08:23
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But cops doing their job properly is no different than you doing your job properly.

I can not begin to disagree strongly enough with this statement.

Cops are given power over the rest of the citizenry.  That power is supposed to be limit and bounded but these days it is not.  They literally have the power to kill random citizens at will and most of the time will have help covering it up.  

When I do by job badly no one dies.  Cops should be held to a much higher standard than any other profession, with no exceptions.  If they can't handle it they should not be cops.

I know that wasn't the point you were trying to make with that statement, but I had to stop and address it anyway.

As to the point of your post, of course the media stories are all fucked because the media itself is almost as fucked as the cops are.  Journalism is another profession that has fallen into the shitter.  But at least they aren't killing people, so I give them a little more slack.

When we get to the point where there is no more than about one story a year about a bad cop somewhere, and other cops bring that bad cop to swift justice instead of protecting them like the Catholic church protects kid-fucking priests, then I will agree that things are better.  Until then I find the situation unacceptable.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,08:33

(TPRJones @ Jun. 23 2015,10:23)
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But cops doing their job properly is no different than you doing your job properly.

I can not begin to disagree strongly enough with this statement.

I meant this only in that getting recognized for doing a good job is the same for a police officer as it is for anyone else.  It's the screw ups that get the attention, not the "Job well done".  In no other way am I comparing their huge responsibility to the piddly ass stuff we do for a living.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,08:34
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...other cops bring that bad cop to swift justice instead of protecting them like the Catholic church protects kid-fucking priests...

Fuck pretty much everything else.  If I saw this, I'd cut them a million times more slack.  But what's the same fucking stupid-ass line every time?

"We did it by the book.  We respected his rights."

That's getting dangerously close to the same level of disconnect from reality that Chuckie Manson has when he says he didn't kill anyone.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,08:37
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It's the screw ups that get the attention...

It's the level of the fuck ups.  Fucking up when you're using lethal force deserves attention.  Breaking down the wrong door for a search warrant and shooting the occupants therein is manslaughter at the least.  Fucking period.  Screeching your tires up to a 12-year old kid Starsky and Hutch style then blowing him away deserves attention.  Binding someone at the hands and feet and torturing them in a moving vehicle deserves attention, especially when you break his spine and kill him as a result and are fully aware of the dangers of such medieval behaviour.  Shooting cuffed suspects in the back while they're running away deserves attention.

Just like no alleged "good" cops speaking up against these incidents deserves attention.  Good cops are like fucking Bigfoots.



Posted by GORDON on Jun. 23 2015,08:37
I think 1 in 1000 is a little low for the number of actively bad cops, but I can still use it to illustrate my opinion:

If 1 in 1000 cops are actively evil, but 900 cops are willing to close ranks and protect that cop either with false testimony or even just silence, that means 901 cops out of 1000 are bad.

Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,09:21
I mentioned 1 out of 1000 as a goal to be striven for.  I think the number of actively bad cops is closer to 1 out of 5.  Vince will probably disagree.

But I agree, if the other 4 out of 5 act to protect the bad 1 out of 5 then they are really no better in the end.  Accessory after the fact and all that.

Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,09:33
Here, Vince, let me ask you this:  I believe I've heard you mention in other threads that it is the responsibility of all good Muslims to denounce those extremists among their ranks that practice terrorism and kill innocents.  Why will you not demand the same from cops?


Posted by TheCatt on Jun. 23 2015,09:42

(TPRJones @ Jun. 23 2015,12:21)
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I mentioned 1 out of 1000 as a goal to be striven for.  I think the number of actively bad cops is closer to 1 out of 5.

I can't buy that number.  I just can't.  At least, not outside of TV shows.

How do you come up with those #s?  What's the threshold for a bad cop?  Cop making a small mistake?  Cop beating a guy?  Cop stealing/planting/altering evidence?  Does the cop who does his job right 1,000 times, then messes up once qualify as a bad copy?

I've had... more interactions with the cops than I'd like.  But they've all been professional, civil, etc.  The worst I ever had was a cop SCREAMING at me, but that was because I had done something horribly stupid that could have had bad consequences.  In all honestly, he could have taken me to jail right then and there, I'm guessing.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,09:46
I don't disagree that the cops closing ranks to protect the bad ones is a huge problem.

Here's my concern in all this.  There will continue to be bad cops.  There will continue to be incidents like Ferguson and Baltimore.  We need to make sure that we are working to build working relationships between the public and the police forces.  All the protests calling for the (figurative) heads of police are not creating an atmosphere where cooperation between the police forces and the public is likely or even possible.  When everyone else is against you, you're going to side whoever isn't.  Even if that's a bunch of bad cops.  In other words, as long as we have an attitude of "they're all rotten", then we're only reinforcing that bunker mentality and wall among them.

There are already calls for the local police forces to fall under control of the Justice Department.  If we continue to alienate our police forces, that exactly what we're going to end up with.  I don't have an answer.  I absolutely agree that things have to change within the police community.  Things also have to change with how we're responding to the police community, otherwise we're going to see exactly how had things can get when the local police have the same leeway as the feds do when dealing with a suspected terrorist.

We have to absorb the police force back into the community somehow.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,09:50

(TPRJones @ Jun. 23 2015,11:33)
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Here, Vince, let me ask you this:  I believe I've heard you mention in other threads that it is the responsibility of all good Muslims to denounce those extremists among their ranks that practice terrorism and kill innocents.  Why will you not demand the same from cops?

I do.  I also know that calling all Muslims terrorists regardless and not trying to make the good ones part of the community will only alienate the ones that would otherwise denounce the bad ones.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,09:53

(TheCatt @ Jun. 23 2015,11:42)
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How do you come up with those #s?  What's the threshold for a bad cop?  Cop making a small mistake?  Cop beating a guy?  Cop stealing/planting/altering evidence?  Does the cop who does his job right 1,000 times, then messes up once qualify as a bad copy?

Those numbers were rectally extracted, of course.  I think the ratio is much less severe in small and medium towns, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if really big cities like Chicago has as many as 1 in 3.  My gut places the average at 1 in 5, but my gut could be wrong, sure.

I think a bad cop is more about the intentions than the actions.  If a cop makes a single mistake and his reaction is to cover it up, bury the evidence, frame someone else, etc, then now he's a bad cop.  I also include cops that fabricate evidence, cops that intentionally hide exculpatory evidence, cops that use questionable tactics to trick perps into confessing, and a whole laundry list of bad actions like that.  I think I'd also include any cops that think that the law doesn't apply to them and cops that give a pass to other cops on things like speeding tickets if they would have ticketed any other driver for the same offense.  Of course there are levels of badness and the last one is perhaps the least bad of bad cops; call it a gateway action that can lead to other bad actions.

I think those are pretty minimum standards, personally.  Cops don't have to be super-human they just have to be more honest and scrupulous than any other professional.

Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,09:59
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All the protests calling for the (figurative) heads of police are not creating an atmosphere where cooperation between the police forces and the public is likely or even possible.

I don't disagree with this.  I also don't think that cooperation between the police forces and the public is likely or even possible as long as cops are murdering innocent civilians.

I agree with you in many ways on this, Vince.  And I sure don't want to see the feds taking over; that will just turn all cops into Homeland Security which is not an improvement.  But I don't think that not talking about the problems are going to make them better.  And I don't think there's anything individual citizens can do to solve these problems; the rottenness is amongst the cops and until that is rooted out nothing can fix this situation.  The only way we'll ever see cooperation between the police forces and the public again is after the cops start to clean up their own messes.

I don't think that's going to start to happen until more years have passed and things have gotten much worse.  In the meantime I will still continue to bitch about it.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,10:25
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Cop making a small mistake?

I understand people write down the wrong addies from time to time.  Evidence can genuinely get lost or mislabeled, and sometimes suspects will injure themselves because they're dicks or insane or both.  But their tendency to overlook the small mistakes that leads to huge consequence is inexcusable.  Stitch in time and all that rot.  Even when they acknowledge they fucked up, it's always incompetence instead of what the situation really is sometimes -- cops being dicks.

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Cop beating a guy?

Absolutely crosses a line, unless said guy is threatening the cop or someone around him.  Even if he's a full time cop child rapist-murder-cannibal and bigot.

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Cop stealing/planting/altering evidence?

Also crosses a line unequivocally.  It's subverting the very processes and public safety you've sworn to uphold.

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Does the cop who does his job right 1,000 times, then messes up once qualify as a bad copy?

Case by case.  If a saint cop suddenly goes postal and starts shooting people for speeding, that's one thing.  Is it some dude who knocks a bottle of bleach onto a blood spatter when he first stumbles on a crime scene and taints evidence?  Different.

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I also include cops that fabricate evidence, cops that intentionally hide exculpatory evidence, cops that use questionable tactics to trick perps into confessing, and a whole laundry list of bad actions like that.

I think that represents a huge swath of the police community.  If I ever get picked up for anything beyond a traffic offense ever again, the only sentence I'll repeat is, "Fuck you, I want a lawyer."  It's because I can't trust the pigs to look out for the public interest or my rights.  They're looking out for the state.  They want to criminalize and fleece the populous as much as humanly possible.  Unless the perp is another cop, in which case he's part of the gang/mafia, so he's cool.

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The worst I ever had was a cop SCREAMING at me, but that was because I had done something horribly stupid that could have had bad consequences.

A buddy of mine got yelled at after a cop pulled up to him.  My friend's on foot, cutting through a parking lot the connects a couple streets that leads from his house to the local Walgreens.  He was repeatedly accused of being a "bad guy" and the cop demanded to know what his business was, walking through a parking lot during the summer evening by himself.  Obviously suspicious behaviour indicative of being up to no good.  Cop's attitude was described as someone who'd just done a couple lines of coke.  Twitchy, hostile, and jittery.  Also looked young, way young, younger than my friend who's around my age.

I've been pulled over walking home from pub because one of them thought my umbrella and I fucking quote, "looked like a nunchuck."

Then there's my other friend who actually got the shit beat out of him by a couple cops one night on a sidestreet/alley where loitering wasn't prohibited.  He dared question their absolute, god-like, all-knowing authority of the fucking lying, asshole pigs.



Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,10:38

(TPRJones @ Jun. 23 2015,11:59)
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 But I don't think that not talking about the problems are going to make them better.

We need to stop thinking about the problems and start thinking about the solutions.  We have to start treating them as a department that reports to us, because when things are at their best, that's what they are.  You can't simply go into a department that reports to you and demand they simply "stop sucking" and walk away and expect things to improve.  We have to do it as a community.  We have to fix ours and leave other cities and municipalities to take care of theirs.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 23 2015,10:42
Body cameras that can't be voluntarily turned off/disabled would be a good start, with footage that is instantly available for viewing on the internet.

If you can't attract honest talent, you might as well make sure their dishonesty is instantly caught and punished.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,10:51
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Body cameras that can't be voluntarily turned off/disabled would be a good start, with footage that is instantly available for viewing on the internet.

Five years from now:
"Studies are coming in reporting that the spontaneous failure rate for police body cameras is an astonishing 75%.  When asked to comment about the matter, a spokesman for the police department said the devices fell down some stairs and should have fucking listened to the officer when he said to switch off."



Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,10:53
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We have to start treating them as a department that reports to us, because when things are at their best, that's what they are.

Good luck with that.  I'd recommend you don't try that in any large city right now.  You might not survive.

Your approach has merit for small townships, but I don't think it has any chance of being viable for any city over 250,000 people.

Posted by GORDON on Jun. 23 2015,10:53
Body cameras with no off switches and multiple tiny lenses on every uniform, plus fucking drones hovering 10 feet overhead with a fisheye lens on the scene plus incentives for civilians capturing illegal shit on their cell phones.

There's pretty much only one way to restore public trust in cops.  100% accountability.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,10:54
I am 100% on board with the body cameras.  I think we need foot patrols in the cities again also.  Cops working public events and their bosses strongly encouraging that they start interacting with the public other than when they're arresting them.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,10:55

(GORDON @ Jun. 23 2015,12:53)
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There's pretty much only one way to restore public trust in cops.  100% accountability.

That'll be the day.  The highest court in the land said cops don't even have to be familiar with the laws they're enforcing.  If they pull you over for a bullshit traffic violation, it doesn't matter if it's real or not, they can do it whenever they fucking want as long as they've got a creative enough lie.  How about taking away the near blanket immunity cops have for wrongful arrest charges?  How about officers that plant evidence getting handed down the sentence they were trying to saddle the suspect with?  Fuck with the ballistic results of a murder one investigation where the death penalty's on the table?  Cool, but then it's also an option for your sentence for tampering and obstructing justice.  Turn about being fair play and all.



Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,11:03

(Vince @ Jun. 23 2015,12:54)
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I am 100% on board with the body cameras.  I think we need foot patrols in the cities again also.  Cops working public events and their bosses strongly encouraging that they start interacting with the public other than when they're arresting them.

Agreed.  Although ease into it slowly.  You just go right now and drop cops into every public event without working up to it slowly over many years and it'll just get people killed.

But this will not happen anytime soon.  For the last several decades accountability and public service go together like orange juice and toothpaste.  And I don't expect that to change until many thousand more people are dead in assorted incidents and we have a mass public uprising.  Heck it may take full revolution to achieve this.



Posted by GORDON on Jun. 23 2015,11:15
Another problem I see is the use of lethal force.  All cops carry pepper spray and tasers, why are they always going for the gun to subdue that barking dog?

The last... no, every... situation in the last few years where the public rose up against the police has been because the cops shot and killed someone perceived as being not deserving of a summary execution.  None of that would have happened if non-lethals had been used.  No one would have ever heard of those situations, and cops wouldn't now have PR problems.  This is the 21st century, and that stuff exists now.  It seems like kind of a no-brainer, to me, aside from stuff like in the movies where there are massive shootouts between cops and bad guys.... ie, stuff that almost never happens compared to typical times a cop has to interact forcefully with a civilian.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,11:18
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All cops carry pepper spray and tasers, why are they always going for the gun to subdue that barking dog?

They have to control the situation and be sure, damnit.  Besides, having the victim testify against you at a police brutality trial is so tedious.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,12:32

(TPRJones @ Jun. 23 2015,13:03)
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But this will not happen anytime soon.  For the last several decades accountability and public service go together like orange juice and toothpaste.  And I don't expect that to change until many thousand more people are dead in assorted incidents and we have a mass public uprising.  Heck it may take full revolution to achieve this.

I think we better work to make it happen soon, because I think things in general are going to continue to deteriorate and we're going to need a local police force we can trust or an iron fist is going to drop on us from the federal level.  I don't think time to ease into a solution is something we have.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,12:34
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... because I think things in general are going to continue to deteriorate...

Besides the trust between the enforcers and enforcees, what's deteriorating?  Crime's at an all-time low across the board.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,12:35

(GORDON @ Jun. 23 2015,13:15)
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The last... no, every... situation in the last few years where the public rose up against the police has been because the cops shot and killed someone perceived as being not deserving of a summary execution.  None of that would have happened if non-lethals had been used.  No one would have ever heard of those situations, and cops wouldn't now have PR problems.  

Except the one that arguably triggered this at the level we're at today.  Ferguson.  That guy deserved summary execution.  He was a thug and was trying to kill the cop with his own gun.  The disinformation and paid protestors really ramped up for that.  I worry about the "why" of that.  There was a lot of money spent to gin that up.  That had to have been done for a purpose.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 23 2015,13:42
If the cop hadn't been carrying a gun, the bad guy couldn't have been going for a gun.  A thug would have been tased and arrested.  No one would have heard of it.

Give SWAT guns.  Patrol cops should have non lethals.

Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,14:06
I think we have way too many swat teams as it is.  You can't stick patrol cops out there with non lethals.  That's just not smart at all.  You pull a car over and the driver suddenly jumps out and open fires on the patrol officer and they find him dead and clutching a Taser in one hand and a pepper spray bottle in the other while he waited for the perp to get within range.  You'd pretty much end up with every patrol officer being a swat officer.  And I couldn't blame them.  You're going to get about 5 individuals nation wide willing to respond to the calls a patrol officer responds to if they are allowed only a Taser and pepper spray.

Let's remember that Rodney King had been hit with both Tasers (plural) and pepper spray when he was charging the 5 or 6 cops that had pulled him over.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,14:18
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You can't stick patrol cops out there with non lethals.

The UK thinks a bit differently.  And before you say, "It's different over there," yeah, it is.  They've got the IRA to contend with.

Posted by GORDON on Jun. 23 2015,14:18
Body armor.  Again, this is the 21st century, this stuff exists.

This guy never drew his weapon and never even raised his voice.  It's a big joke, but I don't think I am out of line to say police should be held to a higher standard.  



I've been told this video is unrealistic, that I can't expect cops to have patience and control when dealing with irate citizens.  I disagree vehemently.  This guy should be used as a model.  If you can't keep your cool, take off the uniform.  You give people bad days for a living.  Deal with it.


       
       
       
       


< Cops aren't even close to being the most dangerous profession, either. >

Not on my own workstation, don't know how to shrink this and can't remember the code.



Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,14:39

(GORDON @ Jun. 23 2015,16:18)
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Body armor.  Again, this is the 21st century, this stuff exists.

This guy never drew his weapon and never even raised his voice.  It's a big joke, but I don't think I am out of line to say police should be held to a higher standard.  

You know how many dead soldiers we have that were wearing body armor?

I agree this trooper is the picture of what they should be.  I don't think it's unrealistic to think this should be the standard.  And I think you'd also agree that this driver deserves to have the shit knocked out of him just for being an ass.  But let's imagine a moment that this trooper is only allowed non lethal options and this driver has a weapon in his vehicle.  Considering his anger issues, would you trust this driver NOT to shoot your favorite state trooper in the face if he knew the trooper was unarmed?

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,14:42
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would you trust this driver NOT to shoot your favorite state trooper in the face if he knew the trooper was unarmed?

Pretty sure the UK has irate drivers, too.  I keep hearing about all the traffic cops over there getting shot, stabbed, or beaten by the hundreds every week.  Also, by those standards, most cops shouldn't be carrying.  If anyone has anger, control, or inferiority issues, it's them.  Apply the same rule to the police and I might hear an argument for it.  If you get caught beating suspects, your lose your pistol-packing rights for a few weeks due to your obvious anger issues, and you can't ride a fucking desk to escape it.



Posted by GORDON on Jun. 23 2015,14:53

(Vince @ Jun. 23 2015,17:39)
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(GORDON @ Jun. 23 2015,16:18)
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Body armor.  Again, this is the 21st century, this stuff exists.

This guy never drew his weapon and never even raised his voice.  It's a big joke, but I don't think I am out of line to say police should be held to a higher standard.  

You know how many dead soldiers we have that were wearing body armor?

Yeah, and soldiers are packing a lot heavier, too.  Doesn't help them when an IED goes off, which, if I recall correctly, is what takes out most soldiers in the current war zones.  When cops in America start getting taken out regularly with IEDs, the body armor will stop being effective.  Until then, it would be, especially with that helmet/facemask combo above added on.  Civilians killed by police plummet overnight.  Civilians stop being so pissed at police.  Animosity toward police decreases.  I'm not seeing a down side.

Also I am just going to link that huge pic, above.

Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 23 2015,15:06

(Vince @ Jun. 23 2015,16:06)
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You'd pretty much end up with every patrol officer being a swat officer.

That pretty much describes what is happening now, doesn't it?  At least they act like they are swat.
Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,18:26

(GORDON @ Jun. 23 2015,16:53)
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Yeah, and soldiers are packing a lot heavier, too.  Doesn't help them when an IED goes off, which, if I recall correctly, is what takes out most soldiers in the current war zones.  When cops in America start getting taken out regularly with IEDs, the body armor will stop being effective.  Until then, it would be, especially with that helmet/facemask combo above added on.  Civilians killed by police plummet overnight.  Civilians stop being so pissed at police.  Animosity toward police decreases.  I'm not seeing a down side.

Also I am just going to link that huge pic, above.

Armor fails all the time.  Seriously.  The down side is more dead cops.  Attacks on cops will increase because they aren't packing.  Animosity of police decreases?  They will command all the authority of a mall cop.  And we know how even teenagers respect the authority of a mall cop.  Anarchy will rule.  This is a massive fail.
Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,18:28
< Fail >

But don't worry officer, you still have your pepper spray to protect you.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2015,18:58
Wtf happened to kevlar?  Maybe the state cop departments would have more money to spend on proper bullet resistant materials if they'd stop wasting resources tossing non-violent offenders in jail.  Also, where the fuck were these tests before the goddamn things were in widespread use?

EDIT: Ah, here's why:
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The Justice Department, which began studying Zylon vests in 2003, found in earlier tests that the material deteriorated quickly, particularly when exposed to light, heat and moisture.

They did them and used them anyway.  Good to know the DoJ and state equivalents have their priorities in place:

1) Corruption/kickbacks
2) War on Terror
3) War on Drugs
4) Keep those motherfuckin' taxes and fines coming in
5) everything else

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"We're obviously concerned by these results, but thank God we're finding this out now rather than later, because this is a critical issue for officer safety, and the adverse effects could be horrible otherwise," Pasco said in an interview.

That's more concern than all the "good" cops in the country put together have shown for the people the asshole ones have unjustly murdered and tortured.



Posted by Vince on Jun. 23 2015,19:25
I'm really not trying to be an ass about the body armor, I just know all they ways they have and do fail.  A bullet to the carotid or femoral and your dead in less than 5 minutes, and you can't effectively armor those if you're going to be driving.  Bullets often go under the arm pit into the lung or heart.  bullets are moving and people are moving and the bullet often is not striking the vest wearer straight on in the chest.  Gun fights are messy and a lot of bullets fly and don't hit their intended target.  Despite what you see on TV, car doors don't stop most bullets.  Body armor gives you a better chance of surviving a shootout.  It's far from being a sure thing.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 24 2015,12:05
< Former Baltimore cop > talks about all the illegal shit (occasionally literally) he witnessed Baltimore cops doing during his 11-year career.
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Michael Wood gave a no-holds barred look at his career in a previous radio interview, but his tweets gained traction for their brazen admissions that officers lied to get overtime, illegally searched "thousands of people" and committed gross acts during raids, like urinating and defecating on suspects' beds.
...
Targeting 16-24 year old black males essentially because we arrest them more, perpetrating the circle of arresting them more.
...
“Even if the police feel as though they did nothing wrong. How many residents were arrested in the white neighborhoods with spring-assisted pocket knives?" Wood said to SNN. "I have a suspicion that the number is right around zero."

I'm sure Baltimore's the only city that's ever happened in.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 26 2015,12:15
< Cops toss random black immigrant > in jail because some dude said he stole his iPad.  Immigrant was also deaf and not given an interpreter.  Turns out now the iPad dude lied as well.  I'm sure he had an ironclad story, though, that would've completely stonewalled any forensic investigation.  Much easier just to toss the guy who can't speak English in a cell for a month and a half.
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A man whose claim about a stolen iPad left a deaf man jailed for six weeks has now recanted his accusation.



Posted by Vince on Jun. 26 2015,15:13
< Officer Stops to Fix Child`s Bike After Responding to Fatal Shooting >
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 26 2015,15:18

(Vince @ Jun. 26 2015,17:13)
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< Officer Stops to Fix Child`s Bike After Responding to Fatal Shooting >

Thank god he wasn't carrying a plastic gun, or worse than that, a towel. He might've been the next fatal shooting.



Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 28 2015,08:35
< Both parts > of the system fail.

What does it take to apprehend one unarmed domestic violence suspect nowadays in Baltimore?  Three cops and nineteen bullets.

What does it take to get thrown in jail for domestic violence in Baltimore?  I guess seventeen times isn't enough.  Probably because the jail's already crowded enough with non-violent poor people that couldn't buy a decent lawyer.

Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 30 2015,10:12
< Feds say > Ferguson cops fucked up.
QUOTE
A U.S. Department of Justice report summary obtained by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch says police responded to unrest in Ferguson in a way that antagonized crowds, violated free-speech right and made it difficult to hold officers accountable.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 06 2015,10:27
< Cops turn > a gang member loose after FORTY-FIVE arrests, his kid gets killed in some crossfire.  Six others also killed over the weekend.
QUOTE
Even with a 30% increase in the number of police on the streets over the holiday weekend, seven people were killed between Friday morning and Sunday afternoon, the superintendent said.  



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 07 2015,10:19
< Cop kills other cop > through incompetence.
QUOTE
New Orleans police say an officer now facing criminal charges failed to thoroughly search a suspect who later allegedly shot another officer to death in a police car.

Chief Michael Harrison said Tuesday that suspended officer Wardell Johnson also avoided collecting and processing evidence when suspect Travis Boys was arrested over an assault. Harris says that among that evidence was a spent shell casing from a .40-caliber handgun.

$20 says Travis and Wardell have a mutual acquaintance or two.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 09 2015,12:03
< Judge is a fucking bitch >.
QUOTE
The children — ranging in age from 9 to 15 — were deemed in contempt of court last month by Gorcyca for disobeying her orders to “have a healthy relationship with your father.”

Go fuck yourself.

By the way, the dad hits his ex.
QUOTE
“I do apologize if I didn’t understand the rules,” said one boy, 15, “but I do not apologize for not talking to (the father) because I have a reason for that and that’s because he’s violent and I saw him hit my mom and I’m not going to talk to him.”

Absolute fucking bitch.

QUOTE
The father has not been charged with a crime.

Gorcyca called the boy a “defiant, contemptuous young man” and asked him if there was anything he’d like to say about being sent to Children’s Village.

How do you still have a job, you raging cunt of a bench pig?

QUOTE
Gorcyca forbid the mother or anyone from her side of the family from visiting the boy.

Remind again why I should have any respect for the law or justice system of this country besides the fact that its agents can shoot or imprison me any time they want with little to no reason.



Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 09 2015,12:21
Absolutely 100% a case of a judge that is all up in her own ass and drunk with power.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 10 2015,10:21
< FBI dicks > waste millions on a shitty system that doesn't work and gets people killed.
QUOTE
A loophole in the check system allowed the man, Dylann Roof, to buy the .45-caliber handgun despite his having previously admitted to drug possession, the bureau said.

First off, that's a fucking stupid reason.  Secondly, oh well, at least it's just this one time.

QUOTE
The F.B.I. operates the background check system, called the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and loopholes have been discovered in it before. One allowed thousands of prohibited buyers to legally purchase firearms over the past decade — and some of those weapons were ultimately used in crimes, according to court records and government documents.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 10 2015,12:06
< Cops sued > for $4.8M after they run down suspect in the street and execute him.
Posted by Vince on Jul. 10 2015,14:17
< Cop's Surprising Reaction to Mom, Daughter Shoplifting at Wal-Mart >
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 10 2015,14:46

(Vince @ Jul. 10 2015,17:17)
QUOTE
< Cop's Surprising Reaction to Mom, Daughter Shoplifting at Wal-Mart >

Nice.

I kinda wonder what's going on with that family though.  They should be getting some decent assistance from SS, etc.

Every Christmas our kid's elementary does gifts for some of the underprivileged kids in our school.  Basics like underwear, clothes, etc.  It makes me sad that those kids need those things.  This past year, we sponsored a couple of kids like normal, but there were still some on our grade's list, so I asked my wife to make sure all the kids got their lists filled.  I'm kinda torn.  I wish I could do more.  I also wonder why others at our school don't.  It might be the richest public elementary school in the district (turns out it's 10th lowest for free/reduced lunch out of 106).

Good for that cop.

Posted by Vince on Jul. 11 2015,06:13
If I were to guess, barring any sort of substance abuse problem with parents, I'd guess they were waiting for the paperwork to make its way through the bureaucratic rat maze.  I've heard people talking about that taking months with various agencies.  A buddy from work had his son loss a leg if Afghanistan and it was about 6 months before they got him started on his disability  He had help from his family.  Imagine having a number of kids and awaiting that.
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 11 2015,08:17

(Vince @ Jul. 11 2015,09:13)
QUOTE
 Imagine having a number of kids and awaiting that.

I should really be more grateful for the life I have.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 11 2015,16:46

(Vince @ Jul. 10 2015,16:17)
QUOTE
< Cop's Surprising Reaction to Mom, Daughter Shoplifting at Wal-Mart >

This proves this particular cop isn't soulless.  That shouldn't be cause for celebration, but give the pathetic standards to which the cops in the country have sunk, I guess he gets a gold star.  I'll be duly impressed when the majority of cops apply this empathy to all suspects instead of the easy cases.  I'll be even more impressed when their unofficial motto isn't "To protect and serve the citizens when it's convenient, unless you're a cop who breaks the law, then we got your back."
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 11 2015,19:12
< Cops > pepper-spray man to death.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 12 2015,09:40
< Cops in Scotland > take three days to respond to a vehicle crash.  Fortunately no one died.  No, wait.
QUOTE
A 25-year-old Scottish woman who lay injured in her crashed car for three days because police failed to respond to an accident report has died.

Someone did die.  If the bureaucracy that runs the law over there is anything like the city council place I worked, I'm not surprised in the least.

Posted by GORDON on Jul. 12 2015,13:33
NYC implimenting a system to track lawsuits/per cop.

< http://thehill.com/blogs....ue-cops >

QUOTE
The New York Police Department is trying to purge misbehavior from its ranks by creating a database that will allow officials to easily track lawsuits, misconduct charges and internal investigations targeted at officers.

...

It will allow supervisors to identify and discipline problem officers more quickly.


My only question is: how do the supervisors not already know which of their people are getting sued?  Isn't it considered to be a huge thing?

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 13 2015,12:05
< $5M not enough >.
QUOTE
Negotiations are expected to continue until Friday, when a statute of limitations requires the family file a wrongful death lawsuit. The family has said it intends to sue the city for $75 million.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 14 2015,10:11

(Malcolm @ Jul. 13 2015,14:05)
QUOTE
< $5M not enough >.
QUOTE
Negotiations are expected to continue until Friday, when a statute of limitations requires the family file a wrongful death lawsuit. The family has said it intends to sue the city for $75 million.

< $5.9M > is.  The pigot that choked him out should be charged with involuntary manslaughter at a minimum.



Posted by GORDON on Jul. 15 2015,08:17
Cop engages in biological warfare.

< http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local....ry.html >

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 15 2015,12:29
< Shooting experts > wonder why two unarmed guys looking for their friend's stolen bike ended up shot.
QUOTE
In the Gardena case, Obayashi said, the officers exposed themselves by standing in front of their vehicles and hence heightened their concern about their safety and need for deadly force.

“I would have to say the majority of officers would not have shot in this case, he said. “This is a scenario you see in simulators all the time.” He said, “this particular video in my opinion demonstrates the worst impression of an unreasonable shooting.”


But hey, as long as we accept cops as supreme dictators of the world whenever they're around, this can all be avoided.
QUOTE
Maria “Maki” Haberfeld, chair of the Department of Law, Police Science and Criminal Justice Administration at John Jay College in New York said the videos show how people can get hurt if they do not comply with police officers commands.

“It looks horrible, but you have to understand how it evolved,” she said. “You have to comply with police officers' directives.”

Fuck the fuck off, Maki.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 16 2015,10:08
< Woman pulled over > for traffic violation ends up dying in a cell due to "self-inflicted asphyxiation."  Family claims she wasn't suicidal.  Pigs claim they know better.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 17 2015,11:16
< Asshole pigs > illegally enter a woman's home, drag her out of the shower, arrest her before she gets any clothes, and then proceed to tell her how much of a bitch she is.
QUOTE
Officer Doug Rose put Rossi's hands behind her back to handcuff her and appeared to notice for the first time that she was naked.

"You have absolutely no clothes on?" Rose asked.

"No! I was in the [expletive] shower! What is wrong with you?" she screamed.

According to Rossi, Rose lectured her about her behavior for over 20 minutes.
...
In the investigation, Rose told Sgt. Chris Cooper he arrested Rossi for disorderly conduct and domestic violence because she was "extremely uncooperative."

Thank god she didn't have a towel, because cops have been known to shoot people for waving those, too.

QUOTE
Man tries to wave down cop with towel.  Cop thinks he has a gun.  < Shoots > him and handcuffs him while he's bleeding.



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 20 2015,10:17
< Jury selection > for a cop that killed someone by the book.
QUOTE
Three Charlotte-Mecklenburg police officers responded and when Ferrell approached them, officer Randall Kerrick fired 12 shots at the man, 10 of which hit, killing him.

Attorneys for Kerrick, who is white, contend that Ferrell had ignored orders to stop approaching the officers and to lie on the ground. The other two officers involved in the case, who are black and were more experienced than Kerrick, did not draw their weapons

Wrecking your car and going for help, now a shootable offense along with waving a towel at a cop.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 22 2015,17:06
< Cops royally fuck up vid release >.  I hope the fucking stupid, useless nuisance law that led to this traffic stop is worth the heat they're taking now.
QUOTE
In the video, Encinia initially asks Bland to put out her cigarette. "Would you mind putting out your cigarette, please?" Encinia said.

"I'm in my car, why do I have to put out my cigarette?" Bland answered.

"Well, you can step on out now," Encinia responds.

Bland refuses, saying she did not have to step out of the car.

Encinia opened the driver's door and attempted to physically remove Bland from the vehicle.

"I'm going to yank you out of here," Encinia said as the two struggled in the car. "I'm going to drag you out of here."

"Don't touch me, I'm not under arrest," Bland said.

"I will light you up!" Encinia said, while pointing the stun gun at Bland.

Much of the subsequent confrontation occurs outside the view of the dash-cam, but the audio captures what sounds like a struggle. Bland is heard saying that the officer "just slammed my head to the ground."

The servant of the public, ladies and gentlemen.  If I had a quarter for every time I've seen a cop car not use a turn signal, I could make rent every month on that alone.

Posted by GORDON on Jul. 22 2015,17:26
So the question is, was the video deliberately edited?  I didn't watch enough of it to know if it was deliberately hiding stuff.
Posted by TheCatt on Jul. 22 2015,17:40
They claim it was just a youtube upload issue, I mean it was damning enough already.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 22 2015,18:05

(GORDON @ Jul. 22 2015,19:26)
QUOTE
So the question is, was the video deliberately edited?  I didn't watch enough of it to know if it was deliberately hiding stuff.

They're not evil; they're just incompetent.  I'm halfway tempted to put a camera outside the cop station a few blocks away and see how many of them don't signal when they leave the lot.  Too bad I can't pull them over, order them around, drag them out of their car, taze them, arrest them, jail them, and have them end up dead mysteriously in my custody with no documented history of depression or suicide attempts.



Posted by GORDON on Jul. 22 2015,18:06
My 9yo once successfully uploaded a youtube vid.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 22 2015,18:08

(GORDON @ Jul. 22 2015,20:06)
QUOTE
My 9yo once successfully uploaded a youtube vid.

I think he might be working on a higher mental and technical plane than the cops.

A 9-year old plane.  I can't wait to see how many ways the body cams "fail."

"Yeah, judge, most fucked up thing ever.  Must've been a solar flare or something.  I read about that shit in the paper yesterday.  Totally blacked out the camera for a couple minutes.  Weird how it happened at the same time the suspect pulled my own gun on me and accidentally shot himself in the back of the head three times."



Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 22 2015,18:25
By law cops have to follow the same rules of the road as we do unless responding to an emergency.  Under Texas law that means they can only disobey the rules of the road if they turn on their siren and/or lights.  But nearly every time I see a cop on the road they are speeding or weaving in and out of traffic in a manner that they would pull someone over for and no siren or lights.

But of course "fuck the law because it doesn't apply to us" is their attitude pretty much all the time.

Posted by GORDON on Jul. 22 2015,19:09
Where did the quote "If you're not cops, you're little people" come from?  I've seen it a lot lately.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2015,07:27

(GORDON @ Jul. 22 2015,21:09)
QUOTE
Where did the quote "If you're not cops, you're little people" come from?  I've seen it a lot lately.

Blade Runner, Ridley Scott version.
QUOTE
Deckard: [getting up to leave] I was quit when I come in here, Bryant, I'm twice as quit now.

Bryant: Stop right where you are! You know the score, pal. You're not cop, you're little people!



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2015,12:45
< Cops violated jail policy >.
QUOTE
The state report notes that there should be a "visual, face-to-face observation of all inmates by jailers no less than once every 60 minutes." Not nearly two hours, as was the case in Bland.

In fact, the inspection report found that "documentation ... revealed that Waller County is not completing (such checks) as required by Minimum Jail Standards."

That's not the only apparent violation.

The same report states county officials didn't provide proof that jail staff had two hours of annual training with "the local mental health authorities ... in accordance with their approved Mental Disabilities/Suicide Prevention Plan."

"The training is to include the recognition, supervision, documentation and handling of inmates who are mentally disabled and/or potentially suicidal," it says.


< Cop fucked up traffic stop >.
QUOTE
Rebecca Robertson, the legal and policy director for A.C.L.U. in Texas, said, “The initial stop should not have resulted in an arrest.” Trooper Encinia could have just handed Ms. Bland a ticket through the window and let her drive away, she said.
...
Ms. Bland has a right to smoke in her car, but Trooper Encinia could argue that the cigarette was interfering with legitimate police business. Since he had already processed the papers, however, “I don’t see a good reason,” said Robert Weisberg, a criminal procedure expert and law professor at Stanford University.
...
In this case, Mr. Weisberg said, there is no evidence that Trooper Encinia feared for his safety. He would have to argue that Ms. Bland’s refusal to put the cigarette out gave him the impression that she was violent. If Trooper Encinia had feared for his safety, he would not have walked away from the car for five minutes, Mr. Weisberg said.
...
If there is clearly a lawful order to get the driver out of the car and if the officer has no other choice, he can pull the driver out. But he must have exhausted all of the alternatives first, and Trooper Encinia seems to escalate things very quickly, Mr. Weisberg said. “The motive for yanking her out seems to be her rude behavior,” he said.
...
“What’s disturbing here was that she was arrested for assaulting an officer,” Ms. Robertson said. “He had to arrest her because she was resisting arrest, but her resistance is a response to the officer escalating the situation.”

Trooper Encinia acted like a fucking asshole then criminalized, arrested, and jailed someone who otherwise put no one in danger.



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 23 2015,12:54
< Cop who tazed > a dude to death will face no charges.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 24 2015,10:13
< Houston police chief > says officer fucked up.  Don't worry, though, he strays off into dumb-ass territory right after his brief lapse of sanity.
QUOTE
Both officials stressed that, for safety reasons, it is best to comply with police, even if they are in the wrong.
"A fool is a fool is a fool. If you get stopped by a fool with a badge, how in the heck are you going to reason with that person?" Finner said. "Don't fight the battle out there on the streets. You're going to lose. Forget about your pride. There are ways on the back end to deal with that."

Yeah, provided you're not tazed to death or allowed to rattle around in a van so your neck breaks.  There are totally ways around that if you're also willing to let the wrongful arrest slide, which then leads to a series of actions most people would call "hostage taking" or "kidnapping," which then leads to false imprisonment, etc.  Pretty much as long as you're willing to have your rights completely shit on and violated for up to 72 hours AND you have the cash to pay for a decent lawyer, there are ways to deal with that.

In other news, < another guy in a jail cell in Texas is found dead >.

Former LAPD cop is < suspected bank robber >.  Keep in mind they only caught him after he retired.
QUOTE
Adair was an LAPD detective from 1967 until his retirement in 1998

I'm sure robbing banks was the only illegal thing he ever did.



Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 24 2015,12:59
QUOTE
"Police officers must understand people have constitutional rights. We should be the first defenders of constitutional rights," McClelland said.

Exactly.  That's a key part of the oath cops take, so you'd think they would be at least vaguely aware of it.  Frankly I doubt that McClelland is familiar with the document, though, given the rest of his quotes.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 24 2015,13:06
QUOTE
Both officials stressed that, for safety reasons, it is best to comply with police British aristocracy, even if they are in the wrong.

If people like this had been in charge 250 years ago, "New England" would refer to the entire North American continent.



Posted by GORDON on Jul. 24 2015,18:16

(TPRJones @ Jul. 24 2015,15:59)
QUOTE
QUOTE
"Police officers must understand people have constitutional rights. We should be the first defenders of constitutional rights," McClelland said.

Exactly.  That's a key part of the oath cops take, so you'd think they would be at least vaguely aware of it.  Frankly I doubt that McClelland is familiar with the document, though, given the rest of his quotes.

I'd have less of a problem doing "what you're told, when you're told to do it" if I thought there was any chance an officer overstepping his authority would actually be punished.  As it is you either eat the shit sandwich and thank them for it, or you get executed "for resisting."
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 28 2015,09:19
< Pig throws peanuts > at homeless dude and asks him to perform tricks.
QUOTE
At one point, Halpin kicks one of the peanuts at Miller as he writhes on the ground for the snack. The sheriff’s deputies don’t intervene in any way, and one of them appears to hand Halpin more peanuts to throw towards Miller early in the nearly three-minute video from July 18.

What do you know?  Asshole pigs helping other asshole pigs treat citizens like shit.

Posted by GORDON on Jul. 28 2015,10:18
Here's an after-action report on the toddler that got it's face burned off in a no-knock raid in GA.  The summary is that cops will cover and lie for each other in Georgia from the local up to the state level.  It took federal investigators to get to the bottom of it.

< https://www.washingtonpost.com/news....toddler >

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 28 2015,10:28
QUOTE
There either was no informant or Autry lied about what the informant said. There was no guard. There was no drug buy in the doorway. The GBI also denied at the time that it had approved the raid. The agency began investigating the case in June of last year but doesn’t appear to have issued a report.

In their defense, they were probably too busy busting down doors for bogus search warrants, beating suspects, covering up crimes for other cops, and shooting dogs after illegally being on someone's property.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2015,10:21
< Another traffic stop >, another dead black guy.


Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2015,15:11
< Vid backs shootee >. Lying asshole pig lied.
QUOTE
"Go ahead and take your seat belt off," Tensing says.

"I didn't even do nothing," Dubose says.

DuBose leans toward the passenger seat.

Without a word, Tensing fires a single shot.

DuBose slumps into the passenger seat.

The car rolls a short distance, stopping at the corner.

Tensing runs after the car.

He looks inside where DuBose is dead.

Then Tensing says, "I think I'm OK. I'm OK. He was dragging me. I thought I was going to get run over."

The video does not indicate Tensing was dragged.

Fucking for real?  The penalty for driving while black got steep recently.

QUOTE
Tensing then reaches into the car with one hand and, with the other, fires a single shot into DuBose’s head.

DuBose's vehicle appears to start moving only after the shot is fired.

If that's not murder, that's definitely manslaughter.

QUOTE
"He purposely killed him," Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said of Tensing. "He should never have been a police officer."

No shit.  Sam DuBose wishes you would've figured that out before this lowlife shitfuck executed him on July 19th.



Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2015,21:12
Because cops just can't stop being power tripping, needle-dicked ass munchers.  < Traffic stop in Boston >.  Pig threatens to shoot motorist after he speeds after said motorist in an unmarked vehicle with no pig lights, at night.  The fucking asshole pig in question here was off duty but decided to poke around in someone else's shit when his paranoid Napeleon complex of a brain kicked into what passes for action, because that's what cops do, when he saw a U-turn.
QUOTE
In his statement, McGlynn said that as the mayor of Medford for 28 years, he believes “the vast majority of Medford police officers carry out their duties professionally and with courtesy to the public.’’

Previously, LeBert has been admonished by superiors after he was videotaped in 2012 episode blocking the camera of a man recording as Medford police officers interacted with his brother.

Another model cop.



Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 30 2015,06:54
I think it's time I installed a dash cam.  With the number of these things being captured on video growing, just imagine how much of this sort of thing happens but since there's no video everyone takes the lying cops word for what went down.
Posted by GORDON on Jul. 30 2015,07:00
Dash cam points forward, no?  Or do you get one of those high-tech ones you can aim at the window if you get pulled over?
Posted by TPRJones on Jul. 30 2015,08:38
Do you think one of those 360 degree Google mapping camera rigs would be too conspicuous?
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 30 2015,08:42

(TPRJones @ Jul. 30 2015,10:38)
QUOTE
Do you think one of those 360 degree Google mapping camera rigs would be too conspicuous?

They might straight up shoot you for that.

"He was dragging me, I swear.  No, I didn't touch the camera rig, fell over on its own."

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 30 2015,10:12
< Pleads > not guilty.
QUOTE
Police officers are rarely charged for shooting and killing people while on duty. So far this year, 558 people have been fatally shot by police, according to a Washington Post database. Dubose’s death is the only one to result in charges against the officer involved.

God forbid cops be held responsible for not knowing the law.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 31 2015,11:11
< Corrupt, lying asshole pig > trying to get his job back with the support of other corrupt, lying, asshole pigs.
QUOTE
A University of Cincinnati police officer charged with murder for shooting a motorist during a traffic stop is trying to get his job back through his union.
...
An official with the FOP Ohio Labor Council of the state Fraternal Order of Police said Friday that the union has filed a grievance against UC. The union says the university violated Tensing's employment contract by not giving him a predisciplinary conference and a copy of the formal charges.

Nice one, pigs.  Looks like we know where Mr. DuBose's life ranks on your scale of importance.  Somewhere below "making sure a murderer is back on the force."

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 31 2015,15:41
< NYPD > body cam recommendations.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 02 2015,11:54
< Kid spends 40 days > in jail because his family can't afford bail.  The asshole pigs that arrest him have their case tossed out because they couldn't ID him.  Wouldn't been nice to know that before he spent a month plus locked up.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 02 2015,18:43
< Meet > a trigger-happy pig's best friend.
QUOTE
Dr. Lewinski and his company have provided training for dozens of departments, including in Cincinnati, Las Vegas, Milwaukee and Seattle. His messages often conflict, in both substance and tone, with the training now recommended by the Justice Department and police organizations.

The Police Executive Research Forum, a group that counts most major city police chiefs as members, has called for greater restraint from officers and slower, better decision making. Chuck Wexler, its director, said he is troubled by Dr. Lewinski’s teachings. He added that even as chiefs changed their use-of-force policies, many did not know what their officers were taught in academies and private sessions.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 03 2015,10:08
< Cop that fired > twelve warning shots directly at a suspect going to trial.
QUOTE
In the Charlotte case, investigators said 24-year-old Ferrell was killed after getting out of his wrecked vehicle in a co-worker's neighborhood.

Ferrell couldn't find his cellphone after exiting the wrecked car, prosecutors say. Instead, the former Florida A&M football player kicked out a window of the car and looked for help. He pounded on a woman's door, but she thought he was trying to break into her home and called 911, prosecutors have said.

Three officers responded to the call. Kerrick was the only one to fire. Ten bullets struck Ferrell and he died at the scene, authorities said.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 03 2015,14:58
< Assholes > roll out a death squad to apprehend...
QUOTE
The prosecutor said the shooting occurred after 19 officers armed with a total of more than 700 rounds of ammunition surrounded Boyd for camping illegally in the foothills of the Sandia Mountains.

Boyd, 38, suffered from paranoid schizophrenia, had two pocket knives and was gathering his belongings when Perez and Sandy fired three rounds each, McGinn said.

... a homeless guy with mental health issues.

QUOTE
Video of the encounter showed him appearing to surrender before Perez and Sandy opened fire. Authorities have said he threatened officers with the two knives.

Fucking video is obviously lying.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 07 2015,15:03
< By the book >.  Ah, it's the rules, so it must be ok.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 12 2015,10:23
< Cops find ways > to kill dogs without shooting them.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 12 2015,12:29
< Prison guards > beat the fuck out of inmates in an attempt to learn how two others escaped.

< Cop violates > protocol, leading to the death of a suspect.
QUOTE
In a news conference late Tuesday, Arlington Police Chief Will Johnson said Miller, 49, a trainee with no previous police experience, had violated department protocol by pursuing Taylor alone into the dealership showroom without backup and without a plan for a peaceful arrest.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 18 2015,10:10
< Dude sucks at being a cop > and making meth.

< Ex-pig > shoots and kills unarmed man who witnesses say had his hands up and was unarmed.
QUOTE
Torres fatally shot Geer, 46, in August 2013 after a report of a domestic dispute. Witnesses, including other officers, said Geer was unarmed and had his hands up when he was shot. Torres told investigators he thought Geer might have a weapon hidden in his waist.

That his third arm was going for?  Wonder how many people Officer Torres shot during his tenure when they were "going for a hidden weapon."



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 19 2015,10:24
< Judge drops ex-pig > like ex-pig dropped an unarmed man.  Except the judge didn't use lethal force.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 20 2015,19:24
< Pig shoots > an already shot suspect in the balls as he's lying on the ground.
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 25 2015,08:57
"< An officer took a beating that could've been avoided by merely killing a black guy. >"

He made a poor use-of-force decision.  The fact that it was about not using force when he should have is just different, not better.  Or as < Popehat > put it:

QUOTE
"I have trouble making decisions because of fear of how I will be treated in the media" does not convey "I'm capable of good judgment about the use of force, so you should trust me more."

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 25 2015,10:28
QUOTE
"A lot of officers are being too cautious because of what's going on in the media," said the officer, who asked to remain anonymous for the safety of his family. "I hesitated because I didn't want to be in the media like I am right now."

...

So you didn't want to be in the media like you are now, but you chose a course of action that was going to put you in the media ... like you are now.  You shouldn't be a cop, period.

In other news, good to know there are still some asshole pigs out there trying to use this to shoo people away from their corruption.
QUOTE
Police Chief A.C. Roper sees the episode — as well as the reaction, including celebratory and vitriolic comments posted online alongside images of the wounded officer — as symptomatic of a larger problem, in which some don't respect law enforcement.

Wow.  How about the even larger root problem of law enforcement seeing anyone who's not sucking their dick on command as a criminal and potential threat?

QUOTE
The nobility and integrity of policing has been challenged

If the officers weren't busy acting ignoble and dochey and actually KNEW THE LAW, this wouldn't be such a huge sticking point.

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Heath Boackle, a sergeant with the Birmingham Police Department and president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police, said Thursday that cops are "walking on eggshells because of how they're scrutinized in the media."

Good.  Now they fucking know what it's like when normal people talk to cops and get railroaded.



Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 25 2015,11:01

(Malcolm @ Aug. 25 2015,12:28)
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Good.  Now they fucking know what it's like when normal people talk to cops and get railroaded.

Not really.  It's just a tiny taste.  After all the worst that will happen to the cop is probably getting fired after months of "paid leave" during the investigation.  Compare that to a lifetime of being ass-raped in prison for daring to assert your civil rights to a corrupt cop.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 27 2015,10:05
< Because > cops don't abuse their power enough, they need drones to really roll shit out.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2015,10:16
< North Carolina >: Totally legal for cops to shoot black people.
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Police say Ferrell wrecked his car on the morning of Sept. 14, 2013, and went to a nearby house and banged on the door, apparently seeking help. The resident called police, and three officers, including Kerrick, responded.

Investigators say one deployed his Taser without apparent effect on Ferrell before Kerrick fired 12 shots, 10 of which hit him.

Kerrick testified that he repeatedly fired because Ferrell kept charging at him and that he didn't think his weapon was even working.

Prosecutors said nonlethal force should have been used to subdue Ferrell, who played football at Florida A&M University. The two officers with Kerrick didn't fire their guns.

Make sure you don't wreck your car in the middle of the night in North Carolina.  Pigs might end up killing you.

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Kerrick testified that he repeatedly fired because Ferrell kept charging at him and that he didn't think his weapon was even working.

What in the mother of fuck?  You kept trying to operate the piece of equipment you thought wasn't working?



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2015,10:25
< Pigs shut down Jerry Seinfeld's kid's > lemonade stand, because they have dicks so tiny they're innies.
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Village code does not permit lemonade stands on village property because it prohibits all forms of peddling.

Go fuck yourself and your retard laws.
QUOTE
Jerry and Jessica Seinfeld set up a lemonade stand with their son and his friends in order to raise money for Jessica's Baby Buggy charity.

Yep, peddling.

Posted by GORDON on Aug. 28 2015,12:00

(Malcolm @ Aug. 28 2015,13:25)
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< Pigs shut down Jerry Seinfeld's kid's > lemonade stand, because they have dicks so tiny they're innies.
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Village code does not permit lemonade stands on village property because it prohibits all forms of peddling.

Go fuck yourself and your retard laws.
QUOTE
Jerry and Jessica Seinfeld set up a lemonade stand with their son and his friends in order to raise money for Jessica's Baby Buggy charity.

Yep, peddling.

Cops hate jews, too.
Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 01 2015,06:07

Posted by GORDON on Sep. 01 2015,06:17
I see what you did there.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 01 2015,10:08
< Another group of lazy, asshole, lying pigs > that are fucking blind, because not only can't they double check addresses, they shot...
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Officers shot the homeowner in the leg and killed the dog, and the early investigation shows that police likely shot one of their own

Name anything these fucking pricks got right about this.  All of them, even the guy that got shot should be bounced from their jobs with no pension.  But since cops can literally < get away with murder > under bullshit circumstances, I guess this is fair game.

Fuck the pigs.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 01 2015,10:18
< Hope the fucker gets the maximum penalty >.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 01 2015,10:22
< Pig brass > worried about physical threats to their fellow pigs, but it's totally cool for them to threaten you.
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The Sheriff's Department is now criticizing the release of the video, posting a message on its Facebook profile about how the "sensational behavior" by KSAT has prompted "physical threats toward our deputies."

God forbid people get to watch their public servants at work putting caps in the asses of suspects who look like they're surrendering.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 01 2015,12:45
< Asshole pigs > recorded beating the shit out of a suspect.  I'm sure it's the first time any of them have done such a thing.
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A KNBC-TV helicopter news crew followed the April chase as Frances Jared Pusok fled deputies on a stolen horse. It then televised deputies repeatedly punching and kicking Pusok as he lay on the ground.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2015,10:21
< Cops that tortured a suspect to death > are going to trial.
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Baltimore City Circuit Court Judge Barry Williams also rejected a motion from the defense calling for prosecutor Marilyn Mosby and her office to recuse themselves from the Freddie Gray case.

Suck a dick, pigs.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2015,10:26
< Two innocent dudes > put in jail by lying, asshole pigs get out ... after 30 fucking years.
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"The police took advantage of two mentally disabled people and exerted incredible pressure until they would sign anything put in front of them," Megaro said.

Oh yeah, they coerced a confession from two people with IQs below 100.
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McCollum, 51, and Brown, 47, were convicted of killing Sabrina Buie, 11, in September 1983. McCollum was sentenced to die and had been the longest-serving inmate on the state's death row. Brown was sentenced to life in prison.

No consequences of any kind will befall the cops for taking six decades of life away from two people.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2015,15:04
< Getting harder > to find people willing to do a job that requires you to be a dick half the time.  Wow, I wonder why.
Posted by GORDON on Sep. 02 2015,16:36
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Police departments face a recruiting shortage amid a growing anti-cop mood that some fear has taken the pride out of peacekeeping and put targets on the backs of the men and women in blue.  


All I have to say is that this "anti-cop climate" wasn't formed in a vacuum.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 02 2015,16:55

(GORDON @ Sep. 02 2015,18:36)
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Police departments face a recruiting shortage amid a growing anti-cop mood that some fear has taken the pride out of peacekeeping and put targets on the backs of the men and women in blue.  


All I have to say is that this "anti-cop climate" wasn't formed in a vacuum.

Spoken like a criminal.
Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 02 2015,18:09
Of course it's not their own fault in any way.  It's rap music and vidya games that's to blame.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 04 2015,10:57
< In what may be a historic first >, a lying, asshole pig lies about being shot at.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 05 2015,09:49
< Even rent-a-pigs > are assholes.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2015,10:15
< Chief pig was so awesome >, he got fired.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 09 2015,15:08
< Pigs tackle wrong dude. >
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2015,10:10

(Malcolm @ Sep. 09 2015,17:08)
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< Pigs tackle wrong dude. >

< Chief pig > wants to apologize for his men being caught violating the civil rights of someone with moderate notoriety.
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NYPD officials later said it was a case of mistaken identity and a witness in a fraud ring had pointed out Blake as a suspect police were looking for.

Sounds like a great reason to send four guys to tackle an otherwise innocent bystander.  Good thing Mr. Blake didn't protest his wrongful arrest, or he might've ended up injured or dead.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 11 2015,10:20
< Judge weighing bail > options for fucking lying, asshole pig that shot an unarmed black guy in the back while he was running away.  If the situation were reversed, the black guy would be in jail without bail about three weeks ago.  Fucking bullshit.


Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 12 2015,09:45
< How much do lying, asshole pigs > cost the taxpayers?
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According to a Wall Street Journal analysis, the 10 cities with the largest police departments paid nearly a quarter of a billion dollars in settlements and court judgments in 2014, up almost 50 percent since 2010. Those same cities paid out over $1 billion over that five-year period in cases that involved alleged shootings, beatings and wrongful imprisonment. That money, like the rest of the police department's budget, comes from taxpayers.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 14 2015,14:36
< No hard feelings about those last 34 years, right >?
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Fogle, who is now 64, was found guilty and sentenced to life largely on the testimony of jailhouse snitches who claimed he had confessed — five years after the crime.

He was surrounded by friends and family in court as the case was dismissed Monday with prejudice, meaning the DA can't bring charges in the future.
...
It also noted that Pennsylvania has no mechanism for compensating inmates who were wrongly convicted.

Must be nice to take away three and a half decades of life and not have to be held accountable for your shitty, fucked up decisions, Pennsylvania pigs.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2015,10:16
< Oklahome > set to execute a potentially innocent dude.
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The case for Glossip’s innocence hinges solely on whether or not Sneed lied. His motive would be obvious: Prosecutors spared Sneed the death penalty in exchange for his testimony against Glossip. In a recent interview with Cary Aspinwall at The Frontier, Sneed refused to recant his earlier testimony that Glossip paid him to commit murder. According to Aspinwall, Sneed’s family members suggest his daughter was manipulated into sending the letter, which didn’t reach the parole board in time to be considered.
...
As concerns about Glossip’s possible innocence grew over the summer, a broad array of public figures urged Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin to stay Glossip’s execution for 60 days to allow new evidence to be heard, including Sister Helen Prejean, former Senator Tom Coburn, and former University of Oklahoma head coach Barry Switzer.

Naturally, the governor listened to her constituents.
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Fallin announced Tuesday she saw “no reason to cast doubt on the guilty verdict reached by the jury or to delay Glossip’s sentence of death” he doesn't have enough money to hire the right lawyers and ruled out a temporary reprieve.

Fixed.



Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 16 2015,13:17

(Malcolm @ Sep. 16 2015,12:16)
QUOTE
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Fallin announced Tuesday she saw “no reason to cast doubt on the guilty verdict reached by the jury or to delay Glossip’s sentence of death” he doesn't have enough money to hire the right lawyers and ruled out a temporary reprieve. thinks it's cute and all when people talk about this "justice" stuff but you don't win elections in Oklahoma by looking soft on crime.

Fixed.

refixed.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2015,15:16
< What does a cop call a restrained suspect >?  An easy target.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 18 2015,10:29
< Jaywalking >?  Eat some fucking pavement.
QUOTE
"The kid got stopped for jaywalking when he barely stepped out of the bus he was two feet away from the sidewalk when the cop stopped him for 'jaywalking'," he wrote. "He didn't have to hit the kid with the baton & no need to call about 20 cops."

Stockton Police Department Joe Silva said: "If everyone would just learn to comply with the lawful orders from police officers and not try to hold or grab any of our weapons force would never have to be used."

Go fuck yourself, Joe.  Maybe you should review the definition of "lawful" and figure out it doesn't mean "whatever you feel like at the moment, depending on if your suspect is brown or not."

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,10:24
< SS fucks over cancer patients >.
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“Closures of Pennsylvania Avenue and Lafayette Park on Saturday, September 19, 2015, were performed in accordance with the 'Fuck You, Citizens' policy security protocols for protectee movements in the vicinity of the White House,” said Sgt. Anna Rose, a Park Police spokeswoman, in an e-mailed statement. “The United States Park Police empathizes with is sick of hearing all the whiners comprising the organizers and participants of CureFest and appreciates their understanding doesn't give a fuck. We hope going forward to better communicate with CureFest and other groups effected by security protocols we can fuck with your activities in the future because we're assholes who work for assholes.”



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2015,11:37
< Highly trained officer > astonishingly shows some of the shittiest judgement possible.
QUOTE
Hours before the crash, Abad had posted a photo on his Instagram page of three shot glasses filled with what he identified as "Jack Daniels Fire on the house."
...
Abad, 27, had two drunken-driving arrests in the last four years, including one for an accident in which he plowed through the wall of a convenience store, records show.

Quite the model cop there.  I'm pretty sure you couldn't get a chauffeur's license with that record.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2015,10:16
< Talk back to a cop? >  Fuck you, eat some ground.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2015,10:22
< Asshole pigs > receive a call about a suicidal dude and decide to help him make a decision.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2015,10:14
< Off-duty cop >, in his patrol car for some reason, pulls a < Vince Neil >.
QUOTE
A telephone message seeking comment from Fraternal Order of Police union President Rick Snyder wasn't immediately returned.

I'm sure it'd be some bullshit about how the officer was totally respecting the rights of the guy he killed.  For fuck's sake, you don't jump on top of this shit?  How low does your PR fruit have to hang?



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2015,18:39
Episode of Vice is on HBO now.  Federal inmates telling stories of getting nailed for conspiracy to sell drugs, even though the only testimony against them was from other federal inmates.  They also said he was out selling drugs on a day he already happened to be in jail.  This plea bargain thing is awesome.  Lets prosecutors threaten you with ridiculous, unjust sentences for non-violent offenses with bullshit evidence.  On the flip side, are you going to roll the dice with a public defender even with those odds?  Some dude tried and got life in jail, mandatory sentence, never shot or stabbed anyone.  For possession of crack with intent to sell.  Fuck every member of the justice system who thought that was fair and went, "Eh, guess it's the law."

Also some great parts about how the system will continue to kick you in the ribs after you get out by killing your chances for a legit living, which might contribute to the fucking fifty percent reincarceration rate.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2015,07:27
More plea bargain greatness.  Did you help two felons escape, fuck them while you were supposed to be watching them, and conspire with them to kill your spouse?  < Four years >.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2015,10:29
< Lying, asshole pigs > in Baltimore knew Freddie Gray needed medical attention, and they did absolutely zero about it.
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Porter also told investigators he wondered whether Gray truly needed medical assistance, even though he requested it, or was faking injury because he wanted to go to a hospital instead of jail, the newspaper reported.

I guess you found out, you fucking prick.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2015,10:34
< Fed calls out local pigs > for not publishing data regarding how many innocent citizens they've murdered while "respecting their rights."
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This is not the first time Comey has criticized the lack of data available regarding how often police officers shoot and kill people. While the federal government does track some fatal police shootings, federal officials have acknowledged that this data is incomplete. Not all agencies in the United States participate in the voluntary reporting system, which had left a considerable gap in the ongoing public discussion.
...
“It’s ridiculous that I can’t tell you how many people were shot by the police in this country,” Comey said during the February appearance at Georgetown University.

No, it'll get even more ridiculous when you look at the numbers.

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Police say that despite statistics suggesting being an officer has gotten safer, the sustained protests over the last year have left them feeling under siege and unappreciated, according to interviews with current and former law enforcement officers as well as relatives of police.

Awesome.  Let's talk about all the feelings or the families that've had members unjustly killed or imprisoned by the pigs.

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The number of slain officers in 2013 was the lowest the FBI has seen in any year since 1980, and the preliminary figures showed that the number of officers killed last year (51) was well below the average number of officers killed each year (64) between 1980 and 2014.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2015,10:17
< Fucking lying, asshole pig > in court for shooting a teenager to death while said teen was sitting in his car ordering fast food.
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An eyewitness said that after the shooting and after Tiller pulled Hammond's body from the car, the police officer walked to the back of his patrol vehicle and opened the trunk. Tiller returned to Hammond's body, rolled it over and placed "something" on it. The officer then rolled the body back to its original position.

Hammond was left uncovered and unprotected on the restaurant's asphalt parking lot for 90 minutes during the investigation that followed the shooting.

No gun was found in Hammond's car.
...
The Hammonds previously filed a plea with the state Supreme Court asking that it take the case out of the hands of 10th Circuit Solicitor Chrissy Adams and turn it over to state Attorney General Alan Wilson for him to give to another prosecutor or handle within his office.

The pleading argued that Adams has a conflict of interest because of statements she allegedly made regarding a Family Court case and because of her close working relationship with the Seneca Police Department. The family sought a high court ruling that would take all prosecutors in the state off cases in which they would decide whether to lodge criminal charges against law enforcement officers within their jurisdiction.

Wilson later rebuffed the request...

Pigs:

1) shot an unarmed kid
2) tried to plant evidence on him
3) left the body open to contamination for 90 minutes

Seems legit.  And what came of this event that cost someone their life?

QUOTE
Hammond's date had a small amount of marijuana and was charged.

Fucking bravo, law enforcement assholes.  Rot in hell, you jackbooted fascist pricks.



Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2015,12:11
< 20 year > veteran pig is a pedo.
Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 30 2015,10:19
< Asshole pig > refuses to comply with court order.  He somehow still has his job.
QUOTE
Arpaio and four of his current and former aides are accused of civil contempt of court after they failed to train deputies on how to make constitutional traffic stops and deliver data to the court.

Sheriff Joe "I'm a complete fucking douche" Arpaio seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the US legal system because he has the nasty tendency to hold people in custody after minor traffic stops without charging them.
QUOTE
U.S. District Court Judge G. Murray Snow issued a preliminary injunction in the case in December 2011 before the trial, ordering the agency to stop detaining immigrants suspected of being in Maricopa County illegally.
...
"Arrest or release, those are your two options," Casey testified. "There's no more saying we found this person and if we can't charge them statewide we hold them for the feds."  Casey was subpoenaed to testify in the hearing, despite attempts by his ethics counsel to have the subpoena quashed for violating attorney-client privilege.  Despite "no indication of not understanding" the order, Casey learned in 2012 that deputies were still violating the order.

Posted by TPRJones on Sep. 30 2015,11:23
Typical of the current attitude in law enforcement.  Laws are for the citizens, not for them.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 03 2015,10:41
< Cops runs over dude >, actually gets charged.  You will note the complete lack of apology on the part of any uniformed person involved in this.
QUOTE
A lawyer for Moore’s family has demanded the officer be fired and prosecuted after surveillance video showed the patrol car traveling at what appeared to be a high rate of speed without using lights or sirens.
...
Assistant Police Chief Shawn Jones says it does not appear Blaise was responding to an emergency call.

Only took seven months to get this sorted out.  The killer has been pulling desk pay since then.  Wonder how fast a normal person would be in jail if they ran over a cop.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2015,10:30
< Lying, asshole pigs > beats the shit out of an innocent dude until he confesses and ignores exculpatory testimony from three eyewitnesses (including trying to charge a witness the crime).  Twenty-five years later, a judge calls bullshit.
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But Mr. Hincapie now maintains he gave a false confession after a detective beat him.
...
His story was buttressed by the testimony of Luis Montero, who testified he recalled Mr. Hincapie being with him at the turnstiles just before the commotion erupted on the platform below. The police arrested Mr. Montero on suspicion of taking part in the mugging as well, but later dropped charges against him.
...
Another man convicted in the attack, Anthony Anderson, took the stand and testified he did not remember Mr. Hincapie being on the platform when another teenager, Yul Gary Morales, stabbed Mr. Watkins in the chest.
...
Ms. Santana, a 45-year-old hospital worker, also corroborated Mr. Hincapie’s claim.


But whoa, wait a second, the prosecutor has found the gaping hole in his alibi...
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Eugene R. Hurley III, a senior Manhattan prosecutor, also pointed out in his closing argument that Mr. Hincapie’s story made no sense, because the escalator he claimed to have run down was going up at the time.

Because it's physically impossible to go down an up elevator.  The kinetic forces would tear you to shreds, I guess.

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He also stressed that three other men convicted with Mr. Hincapie — Pascal Carpenter, Emiliano Fernandez and Ricardo Nova — all told the police he had participated in the robbery.

Let's picture this.  "Hey, you criminals that just tried to rob someone ... was that guy over there with you?"

"Do we get a better plea bargain if we say he was?"

"Probably."

"Yeah, that fucker was with us."

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 08 2015,12:56
< Lying, asshole pigs > from the narco division potentially screw over cases amidst their rampant thievery.
Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 10 2015,19:28
I'm watching < VICE Special Report > and it's frustrating.  It keeps focusing on race, and that is absolutely the wrong approach.  Sure, some cops are racists, but most aren't.  And those that aren't can say to themselves, "I'm not racist, so I'm not part of the problem" but most of them are part of the problem.  Because the real problem isn't racism.  The real problem is that the war on drugs has turned the justice system into a parasite that feeds on poor communities.  They get their funding from putting more and more non-violent drug offenders from poor communities behind bars for longer and longer sentences.  And the private companies that run our prisons lobby hard to keep the money rolling in by making the laws that drive this mass incarceration as strict as possible.  

Whenever the focus is put on race it just clouds the issue and makes it harder to talk about and harder to get to the point where it can be fixed.  The "black lives matter" campaign is part of the problem, not part of the solution.

You know what would really fix the problem?  If the system were turned on the middle class and upper middle class suburbs and their children were treated exactly like the poor communities are for committing the exact same crimes.  There'd be so much hell to pay for that it just might break the whole busted system.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2015,10:29
QUOTE
Because the real problem isn't racism.  The real problem is that the war on drugs has turned the justice system into a parasite that feeds on poor communities.

A brief history of drug laws in the US:

Many of the earliest (WWII and before) anti-drug laws were entirely due to racism.  Bud was illegal because it was associated with (in order) Mexicans and blacks.  Opium was illegal because those evil Chinamen smoked it in spite of the fact whites were more than happy to take morphine and laudanum like candy.  Coca?  Fucking South Americans, particularly Peru and Columbia.  Then again, whitey made cocaine.  The Nixon-declared "War on Drugs" was because the dudes he sent to 'Nam were getting hooked on the freely available weed and opium over there.  The newsreel footage of our boys taking huge rips of intoxicant from their rifle barrels made us look bad, and being stoned while on patrol probably dulls your edge a little.  After WWII, the racial overtones started dropping.

During the '50s, hallucinogens (which included weed) were associated with communism.  There was a time when it wasn't just reefer madness, but red reefer madness.  Then came the '60s and '70s when the Idiocy on Drugs took a domestic turn because some Washington suits noticed lots of hippies doing them.  Now is when you see some of the truly absurd sentences being handed down for simple counts of possession.  It snowballed in the '80s when Reagan came to power and implemented some of the stupidest fucking laws ever written under the sun.  That turned it economic.  The present powers that be are only beginning to recognize exactly how stupid their stance has been.

The funniest part is this:
QUOTE
Alcohol! Tastes great, I love it, you love it, we all love it. Kills motherfuckers every single day. Some of you all won't even make it home tonight 'cause of alcohol. You'll be like, "Oh, that Chris Rock sure is funny, oh! Shit!" But it's all right 'cause it's all white. Cigarettes! Cigarette's the most dangerous product known to man. Kills motherfuckers every single day. Cigarette's so dangerous it kills motherfuckers that don't smoke. That's how dangerous cigarettes are. That's right, first hand smoke, second hand smoke. People talking out of their necks into a fucking machine like, "Hey, what's up, man, I love cigarettes, this shit is cool." But it's all right 'cause it's all white. Shit, could you imagine if the Philip Morris family was a bunch of jheri-curled niggas from Mississippi? Do you know how illegal a pack of cigarettes would be? You would get sixty years just for a pack of Newports. But it's all right, 'cause it's all white.

- Chris Rock

Racial flippancy aside, think.

In general, hallucinogens and depressants have been controlled heavily in this country since the early 20th century, due to their perceived association with race, politics, or geoeconomic status.  The one notable exception is booze.  
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You know what would really fix the problem?  If the system were turned on the middle class and upper middle class suburbs and their children were treated exactly like the poor communities are for committing the exact same crimes.

A minority succeeding in making it illegal for about a decade.  The entire country lost its shit and we repealed that fucking bad idea.  Depressant abuse is making a comeback in a big way due to prescription painkillers, anti-anxiety meds and such.

Stimulants, on the other hand, found a special place within America.  Benzedrine in the '40s and '50s had approximately 1% of the stigma weed did.  Cocaine was so big, you can't think of the '70s without it.  Hell, even Reagan backed off cocaine to go after crack.  If you don't believe me, look at the prison sentences for possessing X amount of coke in 1987 versus turning the same quantity into crack.  Can you even imagine what the blowback would be if caffeine or nicotine was illegal in the same way coke, LSD, and bud was?

Maybe the War on Chemical Usage isn't racist now, but it certainly started out that way.  The douchebags in control simply manipulate shit so that the "most dangerous" drugs are the ones being done by the people we like least at the moment.  What are the big topics of modern day?

1) bogus prescription painkillers and depressants ... mainly coming from the Pacific ... I'm looking at you, China, though there are plenty of shitty Mexican meds you can buy, too

2) heroin because fuck the Golden Crescent (Middle East) and fuck the Golden Triangle (China, Malaysia, etc.)

Why?  Because the assholes in power aren't a fan of China or the Middle East or Mexico.  Since it's impossible for our < overzealous, self-righteous, jackbooted cadre of needle-dicked fucktards and morality guardians > to:

1) police other countries
2) admit their policies are purely based on politics and prejudice

... they tend to take their frustrations out on the players they do see.  Junkies who steal to fix, pushers on the corner, some low-level punk you're trying to flip so he turns his boss in and you can start the same fucking game all over again, having moved a single link on a self-replenishing, never-ending chain of criminals.  Hell, you might even be lucky and nab a "huge" shipment of drugs.  Photo ops, great press, all that worthlessness.  Take every such incident you ever heard about and multiply the quantity seized by 10 or 100.  It will not dent the supply nor temper the demand.  I do not understand how the US simultaneously holds a War on Drugs and claims to comprehend capitalism and economics.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2015,11:15
< In other news >, it's legal for cops to speed up to a kid and waste him.
QUOTE
The Crawford and Sims reports, released Saturday, said they had analyzed the shooting under the U.S. Constitution – not Ohio state law or department policy.

Under this rubric, according to their reports, Rice's fatal shooting by officer Timothy Loehmann was "reasonable."

Additional questions, such as whether or not Loehmann issued any verbal warnings to Rice before firing and whether or not Loehmann recognized Rice's young age, were not relevant under this constitutional scrutiny, Crawford claimed.

You'll remember this dude as part of a duo that responded to...
QUOTE
following a 911 call that a "guy" who was possibly a juvenile was displaying a "probably" fake weapon

This fuckwit and his partner pull a Starsky and Hutch by zooming up to the suspect and...
QUOTE
video of the shooting shows that Loehmann fired on Rice within moments of arriving on the scene.


< Lying, asshole > dickless pig has to prove he's a man by choking a teenager.
QUOTE
Round Rock police said in a statement that a school administrator was unable to stop the two students from fighting and was forced to have police intervene. The officers were trying to calm Hughes and walk him to another part of the building, but the teen tried to circumvent the officers and continue the fight with the other student, according to the statement.

The hold I see in the photo ain't part of any detainment technique I know, which involve limbs, wrists, and joints.  What I see in that vid is a power-tripping douche.

Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 11 2015,12:55
QUOTE
Maybe the War on Chemical Usage isn't racist now, but it certainly started out that way.

No argument there, absolutely.  The historical background of the situation - from the drug laws to the historical situations that contribute to the racial makeup of the poor communities being persecuted - is all about racism.  But the focus of the current pushback has been all about "racist cops" and that's neither generally accurate nor is it helpful.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 12 2015,06:03
As I've always said, I think they are too quick on the trigger, and the militarization isn't helping that mentality.  As we always say, this is the 21st century and we can do a lot better than emptying a clip of a lead slugs because someone expressed displeasure at being arrested.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2015,12:33
< Pig zaps black guy >, turns out to be a city councilman.
QUOTE
Miller told NBC News Monday that he doesn't feel he did anything wrong, and he was just trying to help out his friends who were being questioned by the officers.
...
"If we made mistakes, I'll tell you we made mistakes," [Prairie View Mayor Frank] Johnson said Monday. He added that neither of the officers were on leave.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2015,10:48
< Bench pig > removed from office for being a lying asshole.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 14 2015,12:41
< Border Patrol pigs > being assholes.
QUOTE
Last year, in southeastern Arizona, a military veteran said his children shuddered with fear in the back seat as agents repeatedly asked him if the children were really his. A woman at a checkpoint between Phoenix and Tucson said an agent threatened to use a stun gun on her brother in 2012 after he asked why their vehicle was being searched. And at a California checkpoint in 2013, a man said an agent approached him, hand on his holstered weapon, and demanded: “How would you like to have a gun pointed at your face?”


Ah well, at least they were forthcoming with the info.
QUOTE
The accounts were culled from nearly 6,000 pages of complaints, arrest statistics and other records released in recent months to the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona by Customs and Border Protection’s overseer, the Department of Homeland Security, after the A.C.L.U. sued the department for access


Ah well, I'm sure some consequences rippled through the department.
QUOTE
Among the 142 complaints obtained by the A.C.L.U., only one seems to have resulted in disciplinary action: An agent received a one-day suspension for unjustifiably stopping a vehicle, apparently driven by the son of a retired Border Patrol agent.


Ah well, at least they aren't killing anyone.
QUOTE
As evidence, they note that since Jan. 1, 2010, 33 people have died in encounters with border and customs agents but that so far, Agent Swartz has been the only one to face federal criminal charges.


Ah well, at least the families know what happened.
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Many of the families of those who were killed have also complained that the agency has fought hard to keep the names of agents implicated in the killings under seal; José Antonio’s family had to sue to learn Agent Swartz’s identity.


Ah well, at least they aren't doctoring reports.
QUOTE
But the agency does not seem to keep track of when dogs alert [them to illegal drugs], how often they alert and how often their alerts are wrong. It records an alert only when it results in an arrest.


Sounds like your average pig operation to me, just scaled up in terms of jackbooted fascism.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 15 2015,11:10
< Break a dude's jaw? >. Eh, no jail for you.  Bet if they assaulted a pig or bench pig or one of thier douchebag masters, they'd not be getting out for quite some time.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2015,10:31
< Chicago's mayor > kind of blames cops for some of the rather high rates of murder around those parts.  Thing is, he's right in a certain light.
QUOTE
Maybe Chicago residents would be safer if the cash-strapped city had not spent over half a billion dollars on settlements for police brutality, corruption and misconduct.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2015,12:41
< Chicago pigs > deliberately try to keep suspects from their lawyers immediately after arrest.
QUOTE
According to an analysis of data disclosed to the Guardian in late September, police allowed lawyers access to Homan Square for only 0.94% of the 7,185 arrests logged over nearly 11 years. That percentage aligns with Chicago police’s broader practice of providing minimal access to attorneys during the crucial early interrogation stage, when an arrestee’s constitutional rights against self-incrimination are most vulnerable.
...
No contemporaneous public record of someone’s presence at Homan Square is known to exist.

Nor are any booking records generated at Homan Square, as confirmed by a sworn deposition of a police researcher in late September, further preventing relatives or attorneys from finding someone taken there.

Why does this joint exist?  Glad you asked.
QUOTE
Despite the lack of booking and minimal attorney access at Homan Square, it is not a facility for detaining and interrogating the most violent of Chicago’s criminals. Drug possession charges were eventually levied in 5,386 of the disclosed Homan Square arrests, or 74.9%; heroin accounted for 35.4% of those, with marijuana next at 22.3%.
...
The 68 documented attorney visits are actually slightly higher, statistically speaking, than the extremely minimal legal access Chicago police provide suspects in custody during the initial stages of their arrest. The 2014 citywide total at declared police stations, according to First Defense Legal Aid, was 0.3%.
...
But those documents do not tell the entire story of Homan Square. Chicago police have not disclosed any figures at all on people who were detained at Homan Square but never ultimately charged. Nor has it released any information about detentions or arrests before September 2004, claiming that information is burdensome to produce because it is not digital. (Chicago purchased the warehouse in 1995.)

How the fuck is that legal?

QUOTE
“Try finding a phone number for Homan to see if anyone’s there. You can’t, ever,” said Gaeger. “If you’re laboring under the assumption that your client’s at Homan, there really isn’t much you can do as a lawyer. You’re shut out. It’s guarded like a military installation.”

Sounds legit.

QUOTE
According to court and police documents from Jose’s case, an anonymous informant told officers a man nicknamed “Chuie” sold him marijuana from the address where Jose lived. (Not only did the search warrant not name Jose, it described a taller man.) Police showed up at his house in force in February 2013, guns drawn.

This is the kind of things the pigs need to crack down on as they average multiple homicides per day.  This is exactly why the public perception of them and the job they do is somewhere near an all-time low.  God forbid the authority figures admit they're wrong in violating rights to protect rights.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2015,11:09
< Pig > shoots a guy after his car breaks down on the highway in the middle of the night.  He was allegedly armed, but no weapon has been found so far.  By the by, this was a pig with no uniform or marked squad car pulling up in the dark behind one motorist on his own.  No mention of a prior record.


Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 20 2015,12:13
< Pigs getting sued > after slamming someone to the ground, requiring some stitches.
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Johnson "did not appear to be intoxicated in the least" and simply walked off after being turned away, the Trinity Irish Pub said in a statement released days after Johnson's arrest. It called reports that bar staff were "belligerent" toward Johnson or that he was belligerent to management "patently untrue."
...
Video of the incident shows Johnson down on the sidewalk, his face bloodied. He can be heard yelling that he is a U.Va. student. "How did this happen, you (bleeping) racists!" Johnson screams. The video went viral on social media. Johnson was handcuffed and spent several hours in jail.

Kathleen Shaw, spokeswoman for ABC, said the department does not comment on pending litigation. The agents returned to active duty in August after an ABC review determined "the agents did not violate agency policy," the department said in a statement at the time.

He was arrested for public intoxication while being dead sober, cuffed, jailed, and sent to the hospital.  If your agents didn't violate policy, your policy, you, and your asshole thugs are fucking retarded.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 21 2015,10:18
< Bench pig > up on ethics charges.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2015,08:26
I'm not trying to say that Oklahoma's figurative head is so far up it's dumb ass that the entire legal system there needs to be shut down but...

< Woman kills four >.  Max sentence: 10 years each.

The penalty for drugs?
QUOTE
New penalties for possession or making of hashish, a grinder, or brownies may include life imprisonment were enacted in 2011.

Fuck off and die, Oklahoma.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2015,10:31
< NYC cops > pissed that even Quentin Tarantino is calling them out.
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 26 2015,10:37
< FBI douche > says the police restraint is the problem.
QUOTE
FBI Director James Comey has thrown his weight behind the idea that restraint by cops in the wake of criticism is at least partly to blame for a surge in violent crime in some cities.
...
Comey said Sunday he was "not trying to pick on the people scrutinizing law enforcement." But he noted "something is happening that is hard to explain," and he said he was only giving voice to the views he hears from police chiefs who only share their concerns in private.
...
"In today's YouTube world, are officers reluctant to get out of their cars and do the work that controls violent crime? Are officers answering 911 calls but avoiding the informal contact that keeps bad guys from standing around, especially with guns?" he asked in his Friday remarks. "I don't know whether this explains it entirely, but I do have a strong sense that some part of the explanation is a chill wind blowing through American law enforcement over the last year. And that wind is surely changing behavior."

You're blaming tech, specifically video and easy publishing of said vids, on cops being hesitant to protect the public?  Congratulations, Jim, you're officially part of the fucking problem.  Resign your shit and leave office.  You motherfuckers should be chomping at the bit to post every vid of every arrest so you can show how allegedly follow procedure most of the time and get "results."



Posted by TPRJones on Oct. 26 2015,14:24
QUOTE
"And that wind is surely changing behavior."

If by that he means "and that wind is reducing the number of incidents of cops being abusive and twisting the law to meet their own ends instead of enforcing it as it was intended" then good!  That's the whole fucking point.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 27 2015,10:04
In SC it is legal for a cop to shoot a teenager in the back and kill him if he might have marijuana.

< http://www.foxnews.com/us....ug-bust >

QUOTE
Tiller has said through his lawyer that he thought Hammond was threatening to run him over and fired twice to protect himself. Hammond's family said a private autopsy showed that the teen was shot in the side and the back, proving the threat had passed.

City lawyers have said the shooting was justified and that Tiller shot Hammond in self-defense when he drove his car at the officer. The family also says Hammond was shot through the driver's side window from behind, indicating there was no danger to the officer.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 27 2015,10:06

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2015,10:12

(GORDON @ Oct. 27 2015,12:04)
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In SC it is legal for a cop to shoot a teenager in the back and kill him if he might have marijuana.

< http://www.foxnews.com/us....ug-bust >

QUOTE
Tiller has said through his lawyer that he thought Hammond was threatening to run him over and fired twice to protect himself. Hammond's family said a private autopsy showed that the teen was shot in the side and the back, proving the threat had passed.

City lawyers have said the shooting was justified and that Tiller shot Hammond in self-defense when he drove his car at the officer. The family also says Hammond was shot through the driver's side window from behind, indicating there was no danger to the officer.

Everyone involved in that "drug operation" and the subsequent whitewashing should be jailed with no parole.  Must be nice to shoot kids  and dogs and get away with it, even when you're being a lying, asshole pig.

No apology from any single voice in the pig community for shooting an innocent bystander.  Shit, even gangs occasionally relent when they fuck up this bad.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2015,10:26
< These are too good > not to post next to each other.
QUOTE
President Barack Obama says police officers are too often scapegoated for broader failures in society and the criminal justice system.

Scapegoated, my ass.  They voluntarily work for and support it.

< Sucks > having a parent in prison.  Course, US law enforcement in the past 50-60 years hasn't exactly helped.
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...Daniel Howell, a case manager for New Hope Oklahoma. It offers after-school programs, weekend retreats and summer camps for about 500 Oklahoma children annually who have parents behind bars.

That's Oklahoma, where some of the most insane drugs laws in this country reside.  If they wanted to do something about the way the public perceives law enforcement or if they gave a flying fuck about the societal effects of locking up goddamn near everyone for goddamn near everything, they've had every fucking chance in the world for half a century.  They've chosen to be inflexible pricks about it and I've got no sympathy for any member of that industry ... because that's what it is now, a fucking industry.  It's not a public service and hasn't been for some time.

QUOTE
Child Trends, a research organization, released a report Tuesday estimating that 5 million U.S. children have had at least one parent imprisoned — about one in every 14 children under 18. For black children, the rate was one in nine, the report said.
...
Oklahoma has one of the nation’s highest incarceration rates; a task force calculated that on any given day, 26,000 Oklahoma children have a parent in prison.

This is horseshit.  The criminal "justice" system, fed and state, brought this shit down on themselves.  This isn't some shit you write off with "Eh, society's different."  Sure, they are.  They aren't putting up with your disregard for their basic rights anymore, and they're pissed about the last five decades plus.



Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2015,20:23
< Dickless, lying, asshole pig > demonstrates his power and authority to physically assault a high schooler that wouldn't stop talking.  Luckily, it's the first time this has happened.
QUOTE
Lott said he would not release Fields' personnel file, saying only that some complaints have been filed in the past against him, none of which came from the school district.
...
Trial is set for January in the case of an expelled student who claims Fields targeted blacks and falsely accused him of being a gang member in 2013. In another case, a federal jury sided with Fields after a black couple accused him of excessive force and battery during a noise complaint arrest in 2005. A third lawsuit, dismissed in 2009, involved a woman who accused him of battery and violating her rights during a 2006 arrest.

Was the kid being a completely disruptive, disobedient bitch?  Yeah.  Did she deserve to have her desk turned over with her sitting in it and placed under arrest?
QUOTE
Lott, who rushed home from an out of town conference when the news broke, said that a teacher and vice principal in the classroom at the time felt the officer acted appropriately.

Stay the fuck away from that school.

Posted by GORDON on Oct. 29 2015,05:00

(Malcolm @ Oct. 28 2015,23:23)
QUOTE
Was the kid being a completely disruptive, disobedient bitch?  Yeah.  Did she deserve to have her desk turned over with her sitting in it and placed under arrest?

Actually............

For some kids, I think a good ass whuppin at the right time in a kid's life can do a lot of good.  Take the "obey my authority" aspect out, the bitch still needed a lesson in manners.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 03 2015,10:12
< Lying, asshole pig > on trial for 36 counts ranging from sexual assault to false arrest.  Only took 3 years to catch the fucker.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2015,10:20
< Lying, asshole pig > kills himself.  Mainly because he was going to be indicted for embezzlement.  By the by, he led the major crimes task force in his hood.  I'm sure there weren't any wrongful convictions during his tenure.  He also staged his suicide to make it look like he was murdered.  Lying, asshole pig right until the end.  But, hey, let's bury that shit and celebrate him.
QUOTE
Filenko said the ordeal marked the first time in his career as a law enforcement officer that he felt ashamed by another police officer. But he pushed back against the notion that the department botched the case.

The first time?  Fucking really?


QUOTE
Gov. Bruce Rauner and hundreds of police officers from across the nation were among thousands who paid their respects to Gliniewicz at a viewing and funeral service.

After his death, he was awarded his department's Medal of Honor and was remembered as a man dedicated to his family and job.

Yeah, instead of the corrupt, self-serving, deceitful, oath-violating sorry shithead of a public servant that he was.  The man "dedicated to his family" apparently had a soft spot for porno.
QUOTE
Filenko said an investigation revealed Gliniewicz had stolen thousands of dollars from the police department's youth Explorers program over several years, which he spent on mortgage payments, a gym membership and adult websites.


< Federal bench pig arrested > for trying to bribe another pig.
QUOTE
Prosecutors say Jones approached the unnamed FBI officer a month ago and the two met Tuesday in Goldsboro to exchange $100 for a disk supposedly containing the data.

It's illegal for authorities to demand text or call information from a phone company unless a judge approves search warrants in an active case.

Good thing we have all these committees that supposedly have to approve shit like this.



Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 04 2015,11:41
Christ, that's the guy they give the medal of honor to?  Just how awful is everyone else that he's the good one?

I'd like to read about prior winners of that medal giving it back after they disgraced it like this.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2015,11:47

(TPRJones @ Nov. 04 2015,13:41)
QUOTE
Christ, that's the guy they give the medal of honor to?  Just how awful is everyone else that he's the good one?

I'd like to read about prior winners of that medal giving it back after they disgraced it like this.

I had to reread that article about five times, just to make sure I wasn't going insane.

Shit, when Michael Jackson died, I know everyone sort of overlooked his pedo tendencies for a few weeks after.  But Mike didn't make a solemn promise to serve his community and I don't recall him getting medals after his death commending him for his illegal activities.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 04 2015,12:01
< Lying, asshole pig > executes a suspect on his knees.  They have only recently taken away the award they gave him for doing it.  Not kidding.


Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 04 2015,12:35
In fairness to Michael Jackson he was only ever accused by one child, and that child later admitted he made the whole thing up because his parents told him to so they could get money.

MJ was one weird dude, but the thing with kids was all about how he himself was still just a child, not about getting into their pants.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 05 2015,20:47

(TPRJones @ Nov. 04 2015,13:41)
QUOTE
Christ, that's the guy they give the medal of honor to?  Just how awful is everyone else that he's the good one?

I'd like to read about prior winners of that medal giving it back after they disgraced it like this.

In his defense, they gave him the medal a full two days before they announced he was one of the largest criminals in the community.  I'm sure they knew he was a saint before then and had zero evidence of his being the poster boy and stereotype of police corruption and hypocrisy.

Citizens wondering < how the fuck > that went on for so long.  I'll give you a hint: it rhymes with "Ru Paul of Violence."



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2015,10:28
< This role model > of policing also:
QUOTE
Gliniewicz also had problems off the job, including one incident in which a sheriff's deputy found him passed out in his truck and took him home, only to have Gliniewicz report his truck stolen the next day, according to documents in the file.
...
The file was released to the Associated Press Thursday, hours after officials said Gliniewicz had sought out a hit man to kill a village administrator he feared would expose him as a thief, and may have planned to plant cocaine on the administrator to discredit her as a criminal.
...
He gave motorists the wrong court dates on their traffic citations, lied when he called out sick and sexually harassed his coworkers, the file claimed.
...
Another 2003 complaint detailed how Gliniewicz allegedly promised to help a female officer keep her job in exchange for sexual favors, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.
...
Sharpe reported the sexual harassment in 2001, and the police chief told her he would recommend a 30-day suspension and sex addiction rehab for Gliniewicz.

He was never disciplined once and was actually promoted during this time.  Yeah, he totally deserves a medal.  Funny how I hear almost nothing but crickets from his fellow lying, asshole pigs, except for one dude remarking how "ashamed" he was.  I think this behaviour warrants a bit more than that statement.  Every single case this piece of shit touched should be reviewed and the defendants should be allowed to piss on his grave.  But hey, I bet this prick is the exception to the rule and none of his fucking, lying asshole pigs buddies covered up for him.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 06 2015,10:31
< Lawmaker > calls out incompetent asshole pig that shot a kid during the worst drug operation in history and got away with it ... because laws don't apply to pigs if there's so much as a trace of any drug in the area.
QUOTE
"Zach Hammond did nothing but try and get away," Rutherford said. "And in doing so, he lost his life. That's a great injustice. It's an injustice anywhere in the civilized world."

The lawmaker said that Tiller should have been charged.

"The fact that he was not is certainly a disgrace to South Carolina," Rutherford said. "It's a disgrace to this family and they deserve better than that."



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 09 2015,10:22
< 6-year old dead >.  Two cops held on $1M bond.

< Pigs beat, shock > students.

< Because jails > aren't fucked up enough.
QUOTE
But the 638-bed Correctional Center of Northwest Ohio in Stryker, Williams County — which handles inmates from Lucas, Henry, Fulton, Williams, and Defiance counties and the city of Toledo — has the highest so-called “pay-to-stay” fees in the state. It has a booking fee of $100 and then per diem fees of $66, according to the study.

The report states that the regional jail does not take into consideration the inmate’s ability to pay a tab that could amount to just under $12,000 for a stay of six months.


Speaking of how < fucked up > the US justice system is.
QUOTE
Among Oliver’s focuses in the episodes is Bilal Chatman, who spent a decade in prison for a non-violent drug offense.



Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 09 2015,12:41
If you interested in more about Bilal Chatman, < this rather melodramatic video > is interesting.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2015,10:10
< Citizens > want their donation cash back since it went to a lying, asshole pig.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2015,12:48
< Pigs shock > a mentally disturbed guy to death as he was running to the ER.
QUOTE
The videos, first obtained by MSNBC, show the South Boston officers shocking Linwood R. Lambert Jr. multiple times after he kicked out police cruiser's back window and ran to the doors of an emergency room while he was handcuffed.

Instead of taking him inside the ER, which was just steps away, officers took Lambert to jail, saying he was arrested for disorderly conduct and property damage.

Upon his arrival at the jail, he was unresponsive. An ambulance brought him back to the same ER and he was pronounced dead at the hospital, about an hour after he was initially taken into custody
....
Logs from the stun guns showed they were discharged 20 times, although it's unclear how many hit Lambert, Messa said.


In other news: pig gets fired for murder.  You'll notice there's no mention of him going to jail or being charged.
QUOTE
Details of exactly what happened have not been released by police. Raja's van didn't have a dashboard camera and the department's officers do not wear body cameras, Stepp previously said.
...
Corey Jones, 31, was shot to death in October by Raja, who stopped his unmarked van to check on what he thought was an abandoned vehicle and was "suddenly confronted by an armed subject," police chief Stephen Stepp has said.

It's 3am and your car broke down on the highway.  Some dude in an unmarked car and no uniform stops behind you and walks up without ID'ing himself.  As long as that asshole's a cop with no cameras around, looks like you're a viable target.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2015,09:37
< Cops being dicks > in Bulgaria.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 13 2015,13:05
< Secret Service pig is a pedo. >
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2015,10:53
< Pigs kill Idaho rancher >.
QUOTE
About 45 minutes after the crash, Mr. Yantis lay dying on the highway, shot by two deputies from the Adams County sheriff’s office, who had responded to the collision. Mr. Yantis’s wife, Donna, 63, who had been ordered to the ground with other bystanders and family members, was having a heart attack.
...
Part of the frustration in Council is that Sheriff Zollman has not said definitively whether any cameras on the deputies or their vehicles were turned on that night. Deputies, he said in an interview, have discretion in camera use because of the limits of battery time and memory; for traffic incidents, they do not always hit record.

Convenient, since the only guy who can refute the pig alibi was shot to death by pigs.

QUOTE
Much about what happened that night, on a dark stretch of highway just outside Payette National Forest two hours north of Boise, remains uncertain. State and county officials said Mr. Yantis’s bolt-action rifle discharged, but they have not described the circumstances. Family members say flatly that Mr. Yantis was murdered.
...
Several people over two days of interviews in Council said Mr. Yantis, who ran for sheriff himself seven or eight years ago but lost, was also a man who was not about to hold his tongue when he felt wronged.



Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 24 2015,10:16
< Lying, asshole pig > charged with murder.
QUOTE
The police union has opposed the release of the video, saying it will taint a potential jury.

Yeah, the truth has a way of influencing jury members.  But at least this dude is getting to court.  Some pigs get off easy.
QUOTE
Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said on Tuesday that he was recommending that another officer involved in a fatal shooting, in 2012, be dismissed from his job.

The officer, Dante Servin, was charged with involuntary manslaughter in the off-duty shooting death of Rekia Boyd, a 22-year-old black woman. The case against Servin was thrown out on a technicality.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 26 2015,09:01
Seems like this lying, asshole pig had < 20 > complaints lodged against him in five years.  No disciplininary actions, of course, because pigs are there to serve and protect other pigs.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2015,10:20
< Mayor fires > the pig superintendent.
QUOTE
McCarthy has spent more than three decades in law enforcement. Before coming to Chicago, he served as the police director in Newark and was an officer and deputy commissioner of the New York Police Department.

The same month his appointment in Chicago was announced, the Justice Department launched an investigation into the Newark police force. That review looked at reports of how officers used force and how complaints of excessive force that occurred before and after McCarthy took over the Chicago police force. The Justice Department said last year it had found “patterns of misconduct” in Newark, releasing a report that did not mention McCarthy, and reached an agreement with the city to have its force overseen by an independent monitor.

Probably par for the course as departments go around this country.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2015,10:06
< The answer is 99.9999999999999999999% likely to be > "yes."
QUOTE
The U.S. Justice Department has opened an investigation into whether the Chicago police engaged in "a pattern or practice of violations of the Constitution or federal law," Attorney General Loretta Lynch said Monday

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2015,10:24
< Chicago commander pig > shoves a gun down a guy's throat and puts a zapper to his balls.
QUOTE
On Jan. 30, 2013, prosecutors said Evans and other officers chased Williams, then 22, after they spotted him holding a handgun near a bus stop at 71st and Eberhart.

Evans followed Williams into a vacant home where he allegedly put his gun “deep down” in Williams’ throat and put a Taser to his groin

Ah, well.  Dude holding a gun out in the open, got to do something.
QUOTE
During a hearing in the Evans case last week, prosecutors revealed that Williams could not identify Evans in a photo array, reports said.

The reckless conduct charge against Williams was eventually dropped.

The gun he was allegedly carrying before he was arrested was never found.

How utterly convenient.  The evidence that didn't exist fails to make a court appearance and the arresting pig can't even ID the perp he brought in.  If your arrest is that much bullshit, the fascist pig that hauls you in should be made to serve your time.  What a fucking asshole.

In other news, the < "let's rape some parolees" pig > will hopefully get life in prison where he'll get to know the other half of that equation intimately.
QUOTE
Daniel Holtzclaw, 28, of Oklahoma City is charged with 36 counts of sexual assault, including six first-degree rape counts for attacks on 13 women.
...
The defense said in its closing arguments the victims provided testimony that was unreliable and dishonest.

Defense attorney Scott Adams painted a picture of an honorable police officer whose daily activities were suddenly made to appear evil and suspicious.

The best defense the lying, asshole, rapist pig with 3 years on the force can come up with?  These are 13 people that randomly decided to conspire against me using mass telepathy.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 09 2015,10:30
Naturally, on the heels of a high-ranking Chicago pig getting brought up on charges of excessive force ... < former NY > chief pig arrested for beating the shit out of someone at a pig pen.

Also, since pigs refuse to self-report how many civilians they shoot or kill, the feds are < doing it for them >.
QUOTE
The FBI plans to start keeping count in 2016 of the number of civilians either seriously hurt or killed by police, as independent tallies put this year’s number of fatal officer-involved shootings at close to 1,000.



Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 10 2015,07:27
So according to the CDC, the odds of being killed by a cop are exactly twice as much as the odds of dying from "accidental discharge of a firearm".
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 11 2015,10:16

(Malcolm @ Dec. 08 2015,12:24)
QUOTE
In other news, the < "let's rape some parolees" pig > will hopefully get life in prison where he'll get to know the other half of that equation intimately.
QUOTE
Daniel Holtzclaw, 28, of Oklahoma City is charged with 36 counts of sexual assault, including six first-degree rape counts for attacks on 13 women.
...
The defense said in its closing arguments the victims provided testimony that was unreliable and dishonest.

Defense attorney Scott Adams painted a picture of an honorable police officer whose daily activities were suddenly made to appear evil and suspicious.

The best defense the lying, asshole, rapist pig with 3 years on the force can come up with?  These are 13 people that randomly decided to conspire against me using mass telepathy.

Convicted on 18 counts, 4 of which are first-degree rape.
QUOTE
He could spend the rest of his life in prison, based on the jury’s recommendation he serve 263 years.


His defense?
QUOTE
“I didn't do it!” Holtzclaw shouted as he left the courtroom in handcuffs, according to the The Oklahoman.


Ah well, at least it's just this one guy and certainly not a systemic problem.
QUOTE
Holtzclaw's case was among those examined in an Associated Press investigation of sexual misconduct by law enforcement, a subject that police chiefs have grappled with for years. The yearlong probe revealed about 1,000 officers had lost their licenses for sex crimes or other sexual misconduct in a six-year period.


< Watch the pigs > in the Baltimore case roll over on each other.
QUOTE
“The transporting officer is responsible for that prisoner,”
...
“An officer expects, when they tell a supervisor something, the supervisor’s going to act on it,” Reynolds said.


Then there's the, "Ah fuck it, we'll follow the rules when we want to" argument.
QUOTE
Reynolds characterized the department’s general orders are “guidelines,” not strict requirements. “There are parts of general orders you have to violate to do your job,” he said He cited a much-ignored rule that officers be quiet and civil at all times as an example.


< Cop > kills a kid with an air rifle and earbuds.
QUOTE
Police also initially said McBean was not wearing headphones at the time of the shooting, but that they found a pair of earbuds in his pocket after he was taken to the hospital.

However, a photo of McBean moments after the shooting shows what appear to be earbud headphones in his ears as he lay on the ground after being shot.

“He couldn’t have fired that gun from the position he was in. There was no possible way of firing it and at the same time hitting something,” Michael Russell McCarthy, one of the people who called 911, told NBC News. McCarthy told also told NBC that McBean had been carrying the air rifle on his shoulders, had not pointed the weapon at anyone, and turned to face police when they opened fire.



Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,10:16
< Chicago commander pig > let off in spite of DNA evidence to the contrary.
QUOTE
Prosecutors noted that Mr. Williams’s DNA was later found on the commander’s gun, which they said backed up claims that the gun had been placed inside his mouth. Three police officers who were at the scene backed up the commander’s version of events, and said Mr. Williams was not abused.

I'm sure that DNA got there on its own after evolving wings and flying.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,10:21
< Dude mysteriously gets > a heart attack and broken neck while in the custody of some rent-a-pigs, who've been charged with homicide.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2015,15:21
Wow.  Pigs just can't stop using < excessive force > these days.
QUOTE
"Kirkland chose to use brute force when it was no longer necessary," Kennelly wrote in a strongly worded opinion. "Sgt. Walker conceded during his deposition that the officers could have stood Mr. Coleman up and told him to walk ... It is undisputed that Sgt. Walker could have ordered Kirkland not to drag, or to stop dragging, Mr. Coleman and that he chose not to do so."

Coleman, 38, died at a hospital after a fatal reaction to an antipsychotic drug. An autopsy, though, showed that he had suffered severe trauma, including more than 50 cuts and bruises on his body from the top of his head to his lower legs.
...
Coleman was taken to Roseland Community Hospital, where police reports state he again became combative. Coleman was stunned 13 times with a Taser and struck with a baton.

13 times?  That's either pigs being pricks or the least effective stopping weapon in since the history of aluminium foil.  I bet the hospital didn't have any sedatives, either, because they don't carry that sort of thing.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2015,18:36

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2015,10:19
< Tarantino tells Rahm Emmanuel to suck it >.
QUOTE
“Chicago just got caught with their pants down in a way that can’t be denied…  and the chief of police, is he a bad apple? I think he is. Is [Chicago Mayor] Rahm Emanuel a bad apple? I think he is. They’re all bad apples. ... It’s about institutional cover-ups that are about protecting the force as opposed to the citizens.”

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 22 2015,13:02
< Pig costs San Jose $11M >.
QUOTE
Police were called at 3:23 p.m. because Lam had been threatening to hurt himself, holding a knife to his abdomen with one hand and a cellphone in the other. His neighbor was trying to talk him out of hurting himself when police arrived, according to the complaint.

As soon as West arrived, she started running toward Lam screaming commands like "drop the knife" and "get on the ground" but Lam was still talking to his neighbor and not facing the officer.

When she reached within 10-15 feet of Lam, she shot him twice in the back, hitting his aorta, lungs and kidney.

This seems like precisely the sort of situation in which I'd use a "nonlethal" zap gun.



Posted by TPRJones on Dec. 22 2015,14:16
You know, there's the jokes about how they react like this because you aren't allowed to kill yourself because that's what the cops are for, but it's just sad how much it's not a joke anymore.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 26 2015,10:32
< Cop > shoots a dude to death during a domestic disturbance.  Then for good measure also blasts suspect's middle-aged mother in the neck.
Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2015,12:43
< No charges > against pigs that shot a 12-year old.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 03 2016,18:27
< Science >?  Fuck you, we're prosecuting you anyway, say suited asshole pigs.
QUOTE
CNN reports that the syndrome, also known as gut-fermentation syndrome, can occur when abnormal amounts of gastrointestinal yeast convert common food carbohydrates into ethanol.
...
The Erie County District Attorney's office tells the newspaper that they want to have the charges against the driver reinstated and will appeal the judge's ruling.

The Erie County District Attorney's office can go fuck itself and retake biology and chemistry.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2016,10:32
< Bench pig > rules evidence is inadmissible.
QUOTE
The three-judge panel of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said late last year that a handwritten note from Jensen's wife, Julie, which said "if anything happens to me, he would be my first suspect," was improperly accepted into evidence. The decision stated that the letter, written two weeks before Julie Jensen's 1998 death in Pleasant Prairie, violated Mark Jensen's constitutional right to face his accusers.

Awesome legal system we have here.  The accuser is dead in this case.

Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 06 2016,11:55
That's a legit ruling.  Such a note is meaningless without specific verifiable details regarding known events leading up to their death.

The fault here is with a shitty prosecution using such a note in the first place.  Get some real evidence.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2016,10:19
< Another suspect > dies in pig custody.  Homicide charges pending.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2016,12:35
< Murdering pig > "punished" by being reduced to desk duty and still drawing a paycheck.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 13 2016,10:12
< Pig pepper sprays > and beats a suspect, then files false reports.  Caught on vid.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 14 2016,11:13
< Chicago pigs > hold back a vid's release for years until a judge orders them to publicize it.
QUOTE
The original independent police investigator wanted to rule that the shooting was unjustified, saying the teen fled from Fry and his partner, Officer Lou Toth, without posing a threat or turning toward them. That investigator, Lorenzo Davis, said he was fired when he refused to change his findings to a justified shooting.

Beyond the Chatman case, Davis has said he was ordered to change the outcomes of three or four other cases. He has filed a wrongful termination suit against the city.

A new investigator was assigned and ruled the shooting justified. The officers were not charged and remain on their beats.

Seems legit ... if you're Nixon and it's the Watergate scandal.

QUOTE
"Mr. Chatman is running away from the police. He's unarmed. No knife, no gun," Coffman has said. "Nothing but an iPhone box was recovered at the scene."


The history of one pig involved in the shooting...
QUOTE
Fry has had 30 complaints lodged against him over the years, including 10 allegations of excessive use of force. The police department found every complaint against Fry to be unwarranted.

I wonder how many investigators had to get fired so he could dodge all 30.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 18 2016,10:21
< U of Cincy thrilled > to pay millions because certain people decided to execute an unarmed guy.
QUOTE
The University of Cincinnati has agreed to pay $4.85 million to the family of an unarmed black man who was shot to death in July by one of its police officers, as well as provide a free undergraduate education to his 12 children and establish a memorial in his name, university officials announced Monday.

Ah well, at least it's an isolated incident.
QUOTE
The City of Baltimore agreed in September to pay $6.4 million to the family of Freddie Gray, an unarmed black man who suffered a fatal spinal cord injury in police custody.

The estate of Eric Garner, who died in New York after an officer used a chokehold, a banned maneuver, to restrain him, settled with the city for $5.9 million. And in Cleveland, a jury awarded $5.5 million to the estate of Kenneth Smith, a hip-hop artist who was fatally shot by an off-duty officer.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 22 2016,12:21
< Chicago puts > two more murderers safely behind a desk.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 25 2016,09:29
QUOTE
In fact, in 2014 federal agents used civil asset forfeiture to confiscate more money and property from Americans than burglars took.

At what point should we just do away with law enforcement altogether?  When they steal more than the thieves they are supposed to be stopping?  Or do we wait until they are killing more innocents than the murders they are supposed to be stopping?



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2016,09:43
QUOTE
Or do we wait until they are killing more innocents than the murders they are supposed to be stopping?

If they'd just kowtow and suck the dick of every pig that shouted an order in their direction, they wouldn't be getting killed now, would they?

QUOTE
The Lone Star state, that free-market paradise where government is anathema to basic civic values, actually shakes down average people of millions of dollars in assets with relative impunity and ease.

The Institute for Justice found that the ten Texas agencies that used civil asset forfeiture the most “take in about 37 percent of their budgets in forfeiture funds.” Their report also found that rural (read: poor) agencies were some of the most brazen looters, even as the state claimed the large number of seizures was due to urban agencies apprehending large-scale drug traffickers.

How about we do away with the bullshit reasons they use to get this power?

QUOTE
Those fighting a forfeiture action may be required to appear as many as a dozen times in court, over the course of months or even years, before a case reaches its conclusion. An analysis of more than 8,000 asset forfeiture cases filed in 2010 showed that the 17 percent of cases (or roughly 1,400) in which respondents appeared at least once took more than eight times as long, an average of 260 days, as first-listing judgments. Further, respondents who did fight their cases were required to come to court an average of five times before their cases were completed. More than 100 respondents were required to come to court 10 times or more — risking a default judgment against them if they failed to appear just once. By September 2012, roughly 9 percent of the cases were still listed as “active” — an average 695 days after they were filed.

I'm sure the rights of the robbed were respected in every case.  By the by, forking out the cash to hire a lawyer for that many court appearances isn't cheap.  They charge in the range of hundreds of dollars per hour and it's typically a few hours of prep time per court date.  You could always get a public defender if the fuckhole county you're in deems you poor enough and if you want to lose.

Number of "good" cops speaking out against this thievery?  Zero.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2016,10:08
< Ex-pig > simply can't stop "accidentally" choking women to death.  I'm sure his job performance was top notch.
Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 25 2016,10:58
QUOTE
You could always get a public defender if the fuckhole county you're in deems you poor enough and if you want to lose.

Are you sure?  I think these count as civil trials, don't they?  I don't think you can hire a PD for a civil trial.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2016,11:04

(TPRJones @ Jan. 25 2016,12:58)
QUOTE
QUOTE
You could always get a public defender if the fuckhole county you're in deems you poor enough and if you want to lose.

Are you sure?  I think these count as civil trials, don't they?  I don't think you can hire a PD for a civil trial.

QUOTE
Federal statutory law provides for a right to counsel in certain types of federal court proceedings, such as civil forfeiture of a primary residence or proceedings involving those in active military service.

If they steal your house, yes, you do.  Swiping your petty cash on the road, no.
QUOTE
Federal statutory law provides for a right to counsel in certain types of federal court proceedings, such as civil forfeiture of a primary residence or proceedings involving those in active military service.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2016,10:12
< What's it take to get > emergency services in Chicago?  Four fucking 911 calls.
QUOTE
During the calls, the first of which was made at 4:18 a.m. the day after Christmas and the last of which was placed three minutes later, he repeatedly said that he needed help and wanted an officer sent to his address.

The 911 dispatcher sounded frustrated by Quintonio's refusal to answer her questions, and at one point, she terminated one of the calls.

When asked what was wrong, LeGrier responded: "Someone is ruining my life."

The fourth call, placed at 4:24 a.m., was made by Quintonio's father Antonio LeGrier, who asked for police assistance to the same address.

The police, pissed off about having to do work, show up and kill two people, one of whom was an innocent bystander.
QUOTE
Police fatally shot Bettie Jones, a neighbor of the LeGriers who answered the door to the building, and Quintonio. Police later called Jones' shooting an accident. LeGrier was shot six times and Jones was shot once, according to autopsies by the Cook County medical examiner's office.

At least they killed a dangerous criminal.
QUOTE
Quintonio's mother, Janet Cooksey, has since said publicly that her son, who was studying engineering, had mental health issues.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 26 2016,15:25
< Cleveland > fires six cops.
QUOTE
Loomis, a veteran of 23 years, vowed to get the fired officers' jobs back. There is "no rhyme or reason" to the dismissals, and he said he and other officers are scratching their heads because the firings seem random, as if names were picked out of a hat.

"This is nothing but politics. I have every confidence in the world we're going to get their jobs back. I'm not going to stand for it," Loomis said.

Right.
QUOTE
Six Cleveland police officers have been fired in connection with a November 2012 car chase that ended with officers firing 137 bullets at a car, killing Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams, said Detective Steve Loomis, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association.

Hmm, maybe their lives were in mortal danger.
QUOTE
The chase started the night of November 29, 2012, when a couple in a car sped away from an undercover officer.

Their engine backfired, sputtering and producing a loud bang in the tailpipe. Prosecutors said officers mistook the noise for gunshots, and a high-speed chase ensued.

Investigators said as many as 62 police cars joined at speeds of up to 100 mph through the streets of Cleveland.

After the chase, Russell rammed a police car in a middle school parking lot, police said.

That's when the bullets started flying.

An investigation revealed 13 police officers fired more than 100 times in eight seconds.
...
Russell and Williams were both homeless with a history of mental illness and drug use, according to Ohio's Bureau of Criminal Investigations. Witnesses said they were most likely looking to buy drugs that night. A police officer ran a license plate check of the 1979 Chevy Malibu that Russell was driving. He had gotten it from a relative, and the check came back clean.

Still, the officer tried to pull him over for a turn signal violation. Russell then sped away.

Sounds legit.  So, all you drivers out there ... if your car backfires, it's legal for pigs to unload 100 plus rounds on your vehicle.

Also, since it's a day that ends in "y," < here's > a story about red-light camera corruption in Chicago.  Because those things don't have enough inherent bullshit going on, we must add more.



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 28 2016,10:14
< Lying, asshole pigs > caught lying while being assholes.
QUOTE
About 80% of the 1,800 maintenance logs they reviewed found that cops routinely tampered with their dashcam systems and waited months for repairs.

Only two cars at the scene of the McDonald shooting had operating dashcams that could capture video and four other police vehicles had systems that couldn’t record audio, DNAinfo reported.

I'm sure no other metropolitan pig departments suffer from this no doubt isolated incident.

Posted by GORDON on Jan. 29 2016,09:13
Guy protests a DUI checkpoint.

Cops don't like it, confiscate his camera and gun, both of which were there legally.

After 40 minutes, cops return camera and gun, then are caught on tape brainstorming about inventing charges to "cover their asses" for breaking the law.

< http://www.courant.com/news....ry.html >



Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 29 2016,09:26
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Matthews said that although there is "always room for education and improvement" he asked that the public reserve judgment of the video until all the facts are known.

"What makes our job more difficult is when people try and provoke law enforcement into doing something that isn't necessary," Matthews said.

See, if we'd all just be quiet and let the pigs do whatever they want to whoever whenever, there wouldn't be any trouble.  
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Picard said he does not protest the checkpoints to antagonize law enforcement officials but because he disagrees with their effectiveness and to exercise his constitutional rights.

The only assholes provoking anyone were your fucking thug pigs.

QUOTE
Picard said he was issued a $178 ticket, but that when he went to court earlier this month a prosecutor offered to nullify the charges if he paid a $25 fine. He said he refused and wants the charges dropped outright or he plans to try the case in court.

Sweet, now he plays the "waste your time endlessly in court" game.

QUOTE
Picard said he has protested about six DUI checkpoints in the past year or so. He was charged with reckless use of the highway for a similar run-in at a state police DUI checkpoint on Jennings Road in Hartford.

Because no cops anywhere actually know the laws they selectively enforce.



Posted by TPRJones on Jan. 29 2016,09:34
QUOTE
"What makes our job more difficult is when people try and provoke law enforcement into doing something that isn't necessary," Matthews said.

You don't get to decide if what a citizen wants to do is necessary, you fascist prick, just is it illegal.  There were quite a few legal violations in this video, but it was all the shitty cops doing the law-breaking.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 29 2016,09:40
The more I think about, the more every single one of the cops should be immediately fired from the force.  If they can't be trusted to handle a couple protesters on the side of the road without trying to frame them for a crime, then they've got no biz getting near other, more serious investigations or situations.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 29 2016,09:49

(Malcolm @ Jan. 29 2016,12:40)
QUOTE
The more I think about, the more every single one of the cops should be immediately fired from the force.  If they can't be trusted to handle a couple protesters on the side of the road without trying to frame them for a crime, then they've got no biz getting near other, more serious investigations or situations.

And their bosses who told them to run the DUI checkpoint.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2016,10:12
< Pig pulled > over by citizen for speeding.  Unfortunately, she couldn't write him a ticket with a bullshit $150 fine.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 01 2016,15:09
< Dude dragged > into court, twice, because he took away his 12-year old stepdaughter's cell phone.  Also tossed in jail for good measure.
QUOTE
One concern Jackson had was that his ex-partner, Steppe, has a fiance who is an officer on the police force.

“In the entire investigation,” Gensler told the news station, “that never came into play.”

Right.

QUOTE
Months went by. Then, Jackson was mailed a citation for petty theft, a Class C misdemeanor. Court documents show that the city attorney’s office offered him a plea deal in exchange for the phone, according to WFAA. But Jackson got a lawyer and opted for a trial in municipal court, according to the news station.

Court documents state that the case was first filed with the city court, but that “due to the lack of cooperation by the defendant during court,” the prosecutor in the case asked that police file it as a harsher Class B misdemeanour in a county court.

Late one night last April, Jackson was woken up by police, placed in handcuffs and taken to jail.

Seems reasonable.

< Cops rough up kid >, loser on duty mysteriously misses check-ins, kid found dead.
QUOTE
State officials had previously confirmed that an employee at the detention center failed to make all required visual bed checks. In a statement, the Kentucky Justice Cabinet said the employee has been placed on special investigative leave with pay.



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 02 2016,10:19
< Detroit pig > sentenced to jail for beating the shit out of someone at a traffic stop, then shocking him.
QUOTE
Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Robert Donaldson called Zieleniewski a "wannabe cop" who doesn't like black people.

"At least give me the satisfaction of knowing you were out there beating up n*****s right now," said a text sent to Zieleniewski in 2015 that was read aloud during a hearing. "LOL," Zieleniewski responded months after the Dent arrest, apparently referring to someone else. "Just got done with one."

After Dent was pulled from the car, Melendez placed Dent in a chokehold and began punching him in the face and head.

Dent was then shot with a Taser multiple times and taken to jail. Dent testified that he requested medical care multiple times before being hospitalized hours later.

According to Rohl, Dent suffered a fractured left orbital, blood on the brain, four broken ribs and spent three days in the hospital.

Charges against the dude the lying, asshole pig stopped have all been dropped.

< Three desk pigs > miss some paperwork.  Oh well.  Only means a convicted murderer was cut loose.



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 03 2016,10:15
< Record > number of convictions overturned last year.
QUOTE
Since taking office in 2014, Brooklyn’s district attorney, Kenneth P. Thompson, has overseen a broad review of potentially wrongful convictions, an endeavor that has been watched closely across the country by prosecutors, defense lawyers and inmates.

“If that same effort were put in across the country, we’d find many more of these cases,” Mr. Gross said.

Official misconduct played a role in 65 of the exonerations in 2015, the registry said, and false confessions were seen in 27. The most common reason inmates were ultimately cleared, in 75 of the cases, was that no crime had even occurred.

That's right, the vast majority of mistakes are from no crime happening or one of the many tools of the justice system fucking you over.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 04 2016,12:59
< Bench pig > reduces sentence for a lying, asshole pig who burned the body of someone murdered by a second lying, asshole pig.
QUOTE
Psychologist Rafael Salcedo said he believed McRae was suffering from the early onset of post-traumatic stress disorder by the time he burned the car containing Glover's body, and that it diminished McRae's ability to realize the action was wrong.

Fucking really?

< Lying, asshole pig > pleads guilty to shaking down small biz owners.  Based on his picture, I'm thinking he took his payment directly in pizza.

QUOTE
“I have no tolerance for corruption at any level in this department,” said NYPD Police Commissioner William Bratton.

Fucking liar.



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 10 2016,10:37
< While > this dude probably didn't mean to kill anyone, his actions after the fact don't reflect well.
QUOTE
Liang acknowledged that he didn't immediately report the shot. Fearing for his job, he bickered with his partner about which one would phone their sergeant.
...
Prosecutors say that Liang did not try to help Gurley, even as his girlfriend, Melissa Butler, tried to resuscitate him. Liang said he thought it would be better to wait for professional aid.

There sure as shit weren't any professionals in that stairwell then.



Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 10 2016,16:33
< Seem legit >.
QUOTE
The plot was called “Operation Pandora’s Box.”

It was launched after sheriff’s officials learned in the summer of 2011 that the FBI had enlisted Anthony Brown, an inmate in the Men’s Central Jail, to collect information on abusive and corrupt deputies.

In an unusual move, sheriff’s officials responded by moving the convicted bank robber to a different jail under a fake name and preventing FBI agents from talking to him.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 12 2016,10:27
< Stay classy, pig >.
QUOTE
Fairborn Police are investigating whether Officer Lee Cyr violated the department's social media policy with his crass Facebook comment about MarShawn McCarrel, who killed himself on Ohio’s Statehouse steps Monday.

“Love a happy ending,” Cyr wrote Wednesday in response to an article about the 23-year-old’s suicide.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 16 2016,15:31
< NYC pigs > can't seem to follow department regs.
QUOTE
A review of hundreds of street stops by the New York Police Department last year found that in over one-quarter, officers failed to document the suspicion that prompted them to stop someone for questioning. In most instances, sergeants signed off on the stop-and-frisk paperwork even when the forms filled out by officers omitted required information.

When street stops led to an arrest, officers rarely documented the stop, in violation of Police Department policy. When people were stopped and questioned, but not arrested, the officers involved rarely gave them a “tear-off” receipt — a new practice intended to bring more accountability to the encounters and help repair strained police-community relations from years of excessive stops among blacks and Hispanics.



Posted by GORDON on Feb. 16 2016,15:47

(Malcolm @ Feb. 16 2016,18:31)
QUOTE
< NYC pigs > can't seem to follow department regs.
QUOTE
A review of hundreds of street stops by the New York Police Department last year found that in over one-quarter, officers failed to document the suspicion that prompted them to stop someone for questioning. In most instances, sergeants signed off on the stop-and-frisk paperwork even when the forms filled out by officers omitted required information.

When street stops led to an arrest, officers rarely documented the stop, in violation of Police Department policy. When people were stopped and questioned, but not arrested, the officers involved rarely gave them a “tear-off” receipt — a new practice intended to bring more accountability to the encounters and help repair strained police-community relations from years of excessive stops among blacks and Hispanics.

They aren't allowed to say "because he's black" so they don't fill in anything at all.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 17 2016,10:17
< Beyonce to blame for shootings >.  No, really.
QUOTE
When pressed to clarify what he meant by his reference to the Super Bowl, Arnold replied: "Well you have Beyoncé's video and how that's kind of bled over into other things it seems like about law enforcement."

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 17 2016,12:52
< Rapist pigs up on charges >.
QUOTE
The attacks, on women aged 19, 24, 25 and 34, happened between December 2008 and through March 2011, the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office said.

I'm sure no fellow lying, asshole pigs covered up for them during that time.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 19 2016,10:17
< Pigs strong arm > suspect that later turned out to be innocent.
QUOTE
But on the day after the shooting Hudak contends he was a prime suspect merely because his estranged wife had a relationship with Douglass. Hudak was arrested without explanation by troopers in SWAT gear who surrounded his mother's home, the lawsuit said.

"Pennsylvania State Police had absolutely no legal basis for the warrantless arrest," according to the lawsuit filed in Thursday in U.S. District Court in Scranton.
...
Hudak was eventually allowed to call his sister who arranged for a Carbondale attorney, but he allegedly wasn't allowed to see Hudak for hours. Hudak had also asked for an attorney, but the troopers continued questioning him, the lawsuit said, both in clear violation of Hudak's constitutional right to an attorney.

The Carbondale attorney, Bernard Brown, said Friday that by the time he was allowed to see Hudak, the questioning was almost over.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 23 2016,12:21
< Remember > the guy who was selling loose ciggies and such a danger to the society that lying, asshole pigs proceeded to choke him to death in plain view of the public?  The hospital has paid out $1M on top of the city.  I hope the prick cops that killed him are worth $6M collectively.
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 25 2016,10:16
< Why cops don't know the laws > they enforce.
QUOTE
Undisclosed sources said that a cheat sheet for tests was found at the academy in Hershey, Penn Live reports.

Futhermore, the report adds that some of the test materials have not changed between classes, leaving an opening for potential cheaters.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 25 2016,10:25
< Bench pig: > you can't record cops unless...
QUOTE
In a confounding ruling that breaks with a consensus among federal courts, U.S. District Court Judge Mark Kearney of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania has ruled that recording police officers is not protected by the First Amendment unless the recorders are making an effort to “challenge or criticize” the police.

Asswipe.  You remember Pennsylvania, right, the place where cops are cheating on their academy tests?



Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 28 2016,14:21
< Cops kill unarmed black man. >

Oh wait, no.  Armed black man kills cop.

QUOTE
Prince William County Police Department Officer Ashley Guindon, who was on her first day on patrol, was killed when she and two other officers responded to a domestic-related incident shortly after 5:30 p.m. Saturday, at a home in Woodbridge, about 20 miles south of Washington, D.C., according to police.

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 28 2016,14:22

(TheCatt @ Feb. 28 2016,17:21)
QUOTE
< Cops kill unarmed black man. >

Oh wait, no.  Armed black man kills cop.

QUOTE
Prince William County Police Department Officer Ashley Guindon, who was on her first day on patrol, was killed when she and two other officers responded to a domestic-related incident shortly after 5:30 p.m. Saturday, at a home in Woodbridge, about 20 miles south of Washington, D.C., according to police.

What is this, opposite day?
Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 28 2016,19:23
QUOTE
What is this, opposite day?

Not until a dog shoots a cop.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 01 2016,08:12
< Got to keep those prisons full >.
QUOTE
The three teens knew the owner of the house they planned to burglarize that night in 2008 was in the hospital. They had not anticipated that his friend was asleep inside. Awakened by the breaking glass and fearful for his life, the man grabbed a gun from a dresser drawer. When one of the teens opened the bedroom door, the man fired.

The youngest of the three intruders, a slight 14-year-old in a red hoodie named Travis Castle, was killed.

Doyle, then 15, was charged with murder in his friend’s death.

Doyle did not pull the trigger and was not even armed. But under a controversial Illinois law known as the felony murder rule, suspects can face murder charges if someone dies during the commission of certain felonies — even if the suspect in the underlying crime does not have a murder weapon or was not immediately present when the death occurred.

In Chicago and elsewhere, the law also has been used to charge crime suspects with murder when a fellow suspect is shot and killed by police.

Let me repeat this law: if a suspect in a crime is shot and killed by a cop, all other living suspects get charged for that murder.



Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 01 2016,08:36

(Malcolm @ Mar. 01 2016,11:12)
QUOTE
Let me repeat this law: if a suspect in a crime is shot and killed by a cop, all other living suspects get charged for that murder.

As someone who thinks death is a fine punishment for any felony, I have no problem with that.
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 01 2016,09:01

(TheCatt @ Mar. 01 2016,11:36)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 01 2016,11:12)
QUOTE
Let me repeat this law: if a suspect in a crime is shot and killed by a cop, all other living suspects get charged for that murder.

As someone who thinks death is a fine punishment for any felony, I have no problem with that.

Me too, except when determined by a judge and jury, not a < Street Judge. >

When a real judge passes a death sentence given to him by a jury, I think the person should be made to immediately stand on that plastic on the floor, and the bailiff draws his weapon and steps forward.

But not when a scared, poorly trained, reckless cop rolls up emptying the clip into everything that doesn't comply, knowing full well he'll almost certainly never face any kind of punishment for it.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 01 2016,09:02

(TheCatt @ Mar. 01 2016,10:36)
QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Mar. 01 2016,11:12)
QUOTE
Let me repeat this law: if a suspect in a crime is shot and killed by a cop, all other living suspects get charged for that murder.

As someone who thinks death is a fine punishment for any felony, I have no problem with that.

Christ.  Is knowledge of a felony now enough to warrant a murder charge?  Even if you weren't fucking there?
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 02 2016,10:24
< Lying, asshole Baltimore pigs > caught beating students on vid at a school.  I guess because they're too lazy or corrupt to go out into the streets where Baltimore is suffering record crime spikes, and they need they to go through the motions of police brutality so they don't forget how.


Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 03 2016,12:39
< Lying, asshole pig > charged with murder.
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Means said Gunn's next-door neighbor, Colvin Hinson, ran to his front door to find Smith standing over Gunn with his firearm drawn after hearing a commotion. A post-mortem examination requested by Means showed that Gunn was shot five times, with the last two in a downward trajectory, meaning he was already on the ground, Means said.

"The shots that were fired to Mr. Gunn were not consistent with him attempting to attack in any way," Means said, "nor was it consistent with him attempting to use any kind of weapon against [the officer]."

Because when I defend myself against someone, I always lower myself into a prone position in front of them.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 05 2016,09:39
< Another day >, another pig up on murder charges.  But hey, I'm sure the < left-wing nutjobs > in Maricopa County are overreacting to this one.


Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 07 2016,16:15
< That rapist dude > that got put in jail for the rest of his life just recently -- turns out the first one's free.
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The city police knew of a complaint filed on Nov. 5, 2013 by Demetria Campbell against officer Daniel Holtzclaw months before other accusations began to emerge, said attorney Benjamin Crump, who represents seven of Holtzclaw's victims in a civil lawsuit amended on Friday to include Campbell's case. The original lawsuit was filed on Feb. 25.

An investigation of Holtzclaw was not opened at that point, according to the lawsuit.

Seven months after Campbell complained, Jannie Ligons came forward on June 18, 2014, after being sexually assaulted by Holtzclaw. Police then opened an investigation of Holtzclaw.

“Demetria Campbell was the first victim of this serial rapist with a badge,” Crump said at a news conference on Monday. “Oklahoma City knew exactly who he was and did nothing when she came forward. If they had done something about Demetria Campbell’s complaint, all these other rapes could have been avoided.”

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 08 2016,11:44
< Dick looking > for new job.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 09 2016,10:14
< Pigs and child abuse >.
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Acting Baltimore School Police Chief Akil Hamm announced at a news conference Wednesday that because 44-year-old Anthony Spence, who had been on leave with pay, has been charged with a felony, his status has changed.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 14 2016,10:10
< More cops sexually abusing women > while "on the job."
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 14 2016,15:19
< Fine, upstanding > officer of the law pleads guilty to unloading on an unarmed dude at a traffic stop.
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The four bullets were fired within three seconds.

As Jones writhed in pain on the ground, he repeatedly asked the officer, "Why did you shoot me?"

Over Jones' pained moans, Groubert responded: "Well, you dove head first back into your car."

Yeah...

In other news, < Texas pigs > are now engaging in chemical warfare on the highway.
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The video appears to show a Fort Worth police officer engaged in a traffic stop with the driver of a red pickup truck when a large number of motorcycles begin to pass their location. As the riders pass, video recorded on a camera worn by one of the riders shows the officer exit his patrol car and spray a yellow mist into the air in the direction of the roadway.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 20 2016,17:06
< 20-year veteran pig > kills a couple people while committing robbery.  I'm sure he never did anything wrong in two decades of service.
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 25 2016,15:25
< Lying, asshole pig > blasts a cap in a dog, with vid.
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The dramatic surveillance footage shows the dog wagging its tail as it approaches the officer who backs away with his handgun drawn. He then fires a single bullet at pointblank range, hitting the dog in the head.

In his defense, the dog does look black.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 28 2016,10:30
< Lying, asshole pigs > arrest black guy sneaking up to a house on St. Patty's Day.
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Cellphone video captured the plainclothes NYPD officers approaching 27-year-old Glen Grays. The postal worker was in the middle of his shift on St. Patrick's Day.
...
"My ID right there on the side of the truck," Grays is heard saying in the video.

"Let's go get your ID," an officer says.

"I'm not going nowhere. I'm delivering my postal route," Grays responds.
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Seconds later, the situation escalates and an officer demands for him to "stop resisting."

"I'm not resisting!" Grays says.

Grays is led away in handcuffs, with his mail truck left unattended.

"The only thing I think saved me is that it was on videotape," Grays said. He said he tried to comply with the officers' orders.

"Never been arrested, never received a summons. I was extremely terrified. I wouldn't say afraid - I passed the stage of afraid," Grays said. "I was afraid that if I complied that something was going to happen to me."

Grays was frisked and put in an unmarked patrol car. That's when the video ends.

On the ride to the precinct, Grays said he was told to "shut up a numerous amount of times."

"They rear ended the car and I wind up from the back seat, banged my left shoulder onto the driver seat and banged my face into their armrest," Grays said.

Fuck you, pigs.  Let's remember this is a black dude, so he's lucky he wasn't shot on the scene or put in the hospital due to "injuries sustained during transportation."  But don't take it from me.
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"If it can happen to the mailman, it can happen to anyone in the community," said Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams.

Adams, who is also a former NYPD captain, released the video to the public.

"Those officers were extremely aggressive and I believe that they wanted him to resist. He was smart enough not to resist," he said. "I believe because of that, he's sitting here today telling his story."



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 29 2016,12:12
< Bloated gov't > up in arms they can legally rob the populous quite as much anymore.
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Governor Nixon signed it after a scathing Department of Justice report described the municipal court in Ferguson as an abusive fundraising tool and called for changes in how municipal courts function.

Judge Jon Beetem`s ruling strikes down a key section of Senate Bill 5 that limits St. Louis area municipalities to less revenue from traffic tickets and court fines than elsewhere in the state.
Senate Bill 5 reduced revenues statewide that a municipality could make from traffic fines and court fees from 30 percent to 20 percent of a city`s budget.

But in St. Louis County that percentage was capped lower at 12.5 percent.

My heart bleeds.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 29 2016,15:43
< Dallas cop system > totally doesn't need an overhaul, say Dallas cops.
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Chief David Brown told a city council committee on Monday that hundreds of Dallas officers would be reassigned to target high-crime neighborhoods and bulk up staffing on a 4 p.m. to midnight shift — a time when police commanders say a majority of violent crime occurs. Others would be placed on task forces concentrating on areas like serving domestic violence warrants, Brown said, and more officers, including top commanders, would be assigned to foot patrols
....
Union leaders have described the department as one in total chaos, and are upset that detectives are made to work patrol again, slowing their work on cases. Others say the cuts to important divisions like the sex and drug units are too deep, and will hurt solving crime.

Yeah, we can't let violent crimes interfere with all those drug investigations.  Murderers aren't as likely to have as much shit for you to seize.



Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 31 2016,07:59
< Pig shoots drunk dude >, gets charged with second degree murder.
Posted by TPRJones on Mar. 31 2016,08:10
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Shaver was not armed. His hand motion appeared to be him “attempting to pull his shorts up as they were falling off,” the report says.

Clearly the officers were just protecting themselves from his threatening cock.

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 31 2016,10:23
< Are you > a pig up on first degree murder charges?  Then the Chicago PD has a job for you.
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The city's police union has hired the cop facing first-degree murder charges in the fatal shooting of Laquan McDonald to work as a janitor.
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"The Police Union says to Chicago...we don't give a damn what he did, what you think, he is one of ours, and we are going to take care of him," Rev. Michael Pfleger, a Catholic priest and prominent activist on the city's South Side wrote on his Facebook page.

But hey, you know those anti-authoritarian Catholics can't be trusted.

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The union has shown support for Van Dyke since he was charged on the same day that the city was forced by court-order to release chilling dashcam video that showed Van Dyke, who is white, fire 16 shots at the black teen. Van Dyke was charged 400 days after the incident.

Sounds like they really gave a shit about this case.

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Van Dyke opened fire within seconds of arriving on the scene, saying that he feared for his life. At least five police officers at the scene backed up Van Dyke in official police statements following the shooting, according to investigative documents released by the city. Van Dyke told investigators that McDonald was moving toward him when he started firing. The dashcam video, however, appears to show McDonald who was moving away from Van Dyke when he opened fire.

One murdering, asshole pig and at least another five lying, asshole pigs.  Great department they run over there.

In other news, < bench pig > orders defendant shocked (as in "live electricity passing through his body") in open court.
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Nalley acknowledged in the agreement that in July 2014 he ordered a deputy sheriff to activate a “stun-cuff” a defendant was wearing around his ankle, leading the defendant to fall to the ground and scream. Nalley acknowledged as part of the plea deal “that the use of the stun cuff was objectively unreasonable under the circumstances.”

Nalley ordered the shock during jury selection after the defendant, who was representing himself in a criminal trial, objected to Nalley’s authority to conduct the proceedings. After the man repeatedly ignored Nalley’s questions and his commands to stop speaking, Nalley told the deputy sheriff to activate the “stun-cuff.”

“Do it. Use it,” Nalley said, according to the plea deal’s statement of facts.

Exactly the sort of level-headed guy we need deciding who goes to jail.  Of course, he gets zero time behind bars because he's connected and rich.
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But according to a plea agreement he entered into in February, both prosecutors and Nalley’s lawyer will recommend a sentence of one year of probation.

Fuck you.  Must be nice to violate someone's rights without real consequences.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2016,10:12
< Just so no one thinks > I only take shots at state cops, < feds > forget some high explosives on a school bus ... and then forget about it for a couple days.

Also, are you < a minority >?  Then San Fran pigs are probably < talking shit about you > and in all likelihood hate you.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2016,11:16

(Malcolm @ Mar. 28 2016,12:30)
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< Lying, asshole pigs > arrest black guy sneaking up to a house on St. Patty's Day.

< Supervisor stripped > of badge and gun.
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Machado and three cops were zipping along in an unmarked car on March 17 when they nearly struck Grays postal truck, officials said.

Grays shouted at the driver, who threw the car in reverse and screamed back at the mail carrier.

That's four pigs who decided harassing and falsely arresting a black guy was justified because they almost hit his vehicle.  Correction: four of the city's finest pigs.
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Machado and his team — Police Officers Lazo Lluka, Miguel Rodriguez and David Savella — were immediately pulled from the elite conditions unit they were assigned to, Bratton said.


Fortunately all the other pigs are rushing to the defense of the four criminals involved in the incident.
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On Wednesday Patrick Lynch, head of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, cautioned against a “rush to judgment.”

“Everyone, including the police commissioner, should withhold public comment until all the facts are in,” Lynch said.

I suppose the video doesn't count as a "fact."  Just in case you thought Patrick Lynch was being reasonable...
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He also put part of the blame on Grays.

“No one ever has the right to resist arrest,” Lynch continued. “Compliance is not optional.”

Go fuck yourself with your own nightstick and thanks for being part of the problem, you oinking bastard.  That's right, folks.  When a cop arrest you for any reason, even if it's complete and total bullshit, you don't have the ability, let alone the right, to question their divine, infallible judgement.  I hope someone eggs that fuckwit's house.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2016,12:25
< Shouldn't > have skipped that meeting.
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The video shows officers on Jan. 9, 2015, descending upon a car that contained Grant, another undercover officer and two suspects from whom they were going to buy $60 worth of drugs.

Grant's supervisor, now-retired Lt. Greg Brachle, approaches and opens the rear passenger door where Grant is sitting. He yells "gun, gun, gun" and begins shooting.
...
Brachle — who retired before a police oversight board recommended that he be fired for violating numerous policies — had missed a pre-operation briefing the morning of the planned bust.

Quality work, there, Wiggum.

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The video was made public late Thursday, a day after the city announced a $6.5 million settlement with Jacob Grant, who has had more than a dozen surgeries and faces more medical problems as result of the shooting. The city agreed to pay the detective's medical expenses for life.

I'm sure the undercover op resulted in a huge score for law enforcement that offsets this.
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The video shows officers on Jan. 9, 2015, descending upon a car that contained Grant, another undercover officer and two suspects from whom they were going to buy $60 worth of drugs.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 04 2016,12:25
< Pigs > cost Chicago $5M.  Hope it was worth it.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 06 2016,17:46
< Cop does a WWE > move on a 12-year old girl.  I'm sure he had a great reason and totally respected her rights.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 08 2016,14:52
< Hope you didn't > want those 33 years.  Our bad.
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The police in Newport News, Va., initially had no good suspects in 1982, after a home invader beat a man to death and repeatedly raped his wife while their children slept in a nearby bedroom. The wife described the assailant as a clean-shaven white man in a sailor suit, but could offer few other details.

Months later, when a girlfriend accused Mr. Harward of biting her during a fight, investigators zeroed in on Mr. Harward, even though he had a mustache at the time. The surviving victim never did identify Mr. Harward as her attacker, but a naval guard, after secretly undergoing hypnosis, described Mr. Harward as a sailor he saw entering a Navy shipyard in the early morning hours on the night of the crime, his clothes spattered with paint or blood.

Seems legit.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 08 2016,15:04
< NYPD pigs > protecting corrupt bidnizmen.
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It is unclear which of the Brooklyn businessmen with ties to de Blasio is involved in both the federal probe into the NYPD and in Peralta's Ponzi scheme.

The NYPD investigation is centered on allegations that officers accepted international trips, cash and other gifts from the two businessmen in exchange for favors, such as police escorts to the airport.

NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton stripped two high-ranking officers of their guns and badges and transferred two others on Thursday as a result of the probe.


The NYSP superintendent pig had this response: < I'm out, bitches >.
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The superintendent of the New York State Police has said he is planning to retire.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 12 2016,10:18

(Malcolm @ Apr. 06 2016,19:46)
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< Cop does a WWE > move on a 12-year old girl.  I'm sure he had a great reason and totally respected her rights.

Pig fired.  Betting he ends up with another badge before the year's out, probably picking on other tweens.  But don't worry, there are plenty of people defending his right to beat up on middle school girls.
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“Officer Kehm was filmed subduing an irate and violent female student by taking her to the ground,” the group [Blue Live Matter] wrote on Facebook. “After a brief investigation Officer Kehm was given the opportunity to resign or be fired. He refused to resign so the San Antonio Independent School District terminated him.”

Officer Kehm and that facebook group can go fuck themselves.  But maybe I'm being hasty and this is an isolated thing.
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“How many students of color must be brutalized by police officers in their schools before we recognize the pattern?” she said in the statement. “We saw this with 17-year-old Brittany Overstreet in Tampa, Fla., who was body-slammed and knocked unconscious by a school resource officer; in Baltimore, Md., where a middle school student required 10 stitches after she was assaulted by a school resource officer; in Columbia, S.C., where a student was thrown across a classroom, handcuffed and arrested for using her phone during class; and now, in San Antonio.



Posted by TPRJones on Apr. 12 2016,16:10
Hey, that phone could have been loaded!  She might have shot somebody.  Gotta be careful.


Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 14 2016,10:48
< UC Davis > pays $175K to rewrite history, Brave New World style.
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The newspaper reported Wednesday that the documents — including proposals and purchase orders — reveal that the school paid to have negative Internet search results scrubbed to help the reputations of the university and its chancellor, Linda P.B. Katehi.

Oh yeah, this bodes well.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 15 2016,10:17
< Cops blatantly lie and ignore procedure > because a celebrity asks them to.  Must be nice to be rich, white, and renown.
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