Topic: Iraq doing fine
started by: Malcolm
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 05 2014,10:39
< Stable as a mofo >.QUOTE
The exodus comes after the government admitted it had lost control of the city - west of Baghdad - to al-Qaeda-linked militants and allied tribesmen.
Fighting is also reported in Ramadi, also in Anbar province, parts of which are in the hands of militants.
Both the US and Iran have offered military support, though not troops.
Fighting is also reported in Ramadi, also in Anbar province, parts of which are in the hands of militants.
Both the US and Iran have offered military support, though not troops.
Yeah, we've got health care and unemployment benefits to worry about over here.
Posted by Paul on Mar. 22 2014,06:48
< Now they're building a boat. >
Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 22 2014,09:36
Maybe < these > dudes are shooting their version of < this > there.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 10 2014,10:19
< Troops defending Mosul cut and run >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 12 2014,10:13
< Sharia law being implemented >. Good thing we went in there and cleaned out all the corrupt assholes years ago.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 13 2014,10:09
< B. Rock >: We got nothin'.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 17 2014,13:39
< Obama being blamed. >
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 17 2014,14:04
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The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.
Weird, because Dubyuh signed that shit.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 18 2014,06:24
(Malcolm @ Jun. 17 2014,17:04)
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The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.
Weird, because Dubyuh signed that shit.
If memory serves, Dubyuh was getting blamed for everything, even global warming.
So I don't think you should be shocked that Obama is now taking the blame for everything occurring during his term.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2014,08:46
His contribution to US history will be remembered as that joke called the DHS. I have no sympathy.
Posted by Troy on Jun. 18 2014,09:19
(Leisher @ Jun. 18 2014,06:24)
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(Malcolm @ Jun. 17 2014,17:04)
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The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.
Weird, because Dubyuh signed that shit.
If memory serves, Dubyuh was getting blamed for everything, even global warming.
So I don't think you should be shocked that Obama is now taking the blame for everything occurring during his term.
We'll yeah, but that anyone could think of any other last name other Bush when we talk about Iraq is so, so wrong.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2014,10:13
< Iraq asks for air strikes >. B. Rock: < no air strikes >.< Insane, old man > weighs in.
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The committee, the two say, “is supported by citizens who are dedicated to the hard but necessary task of preserving freedom and restoring American strength and power in the wake of the Obama administration’s national security failures.”
Yet again, he's part of the administration that made the DHS, the poster boy for "national security failure."
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 18 2014,10:23
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We'll yeah, but that anyone could think of any other last name other Bush when we talk about Iraq is so, so wrong.
I can think of lots of other last names involved in Iraq. Let's stop pretending he's the only person who decided anything about that whole situation.
All four presidents since Desert Shield are involved and their entire cabinets. Let's not forget Congress and foreign powers either. Let's also not forget Saddam who could have stopped any military action from taking place very easily, and didn't have to murder his own people.
But yeah, Bush/Haliburton/global warming...
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 18 2014,11:01
Bush started the DHS but a Democratic congress had to approve it, and Obama has done nothing to curb it in 6 years even though he could do so with the stroke of a pen.I doubt Bush could foresee the bullshit the DHS would become, which was created very close to 9/11 when no one knew wtf was going to happen. Obama can't not know what bullshit the DHS is, and he is gleefully building on it.
Yeah, a mistake was made. Under that ignorant, incompetent, clusterfuck of a president we have now, the mistakes are not being fixed.
HEY.... I guess we couldn't have Reagan without Carter. Let's hope.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2014,11:12
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Obama can't not know what bullshit the DHS is, and he is gleefully building on it.
There are precisely 0 members of Congress on board with shutting down the DHS or TSA. I've got no idea why.
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I doubt Bush could foresee the bullshit the DHS would become, which was created very close to 9/11 when no one knew wtf was going to happen.
Well, then his ass should've shut it down before he left office. It'd go down in history as the greatest lame duck prez legislation ev4r. But no, he increased funding to it every year. "He couldn't foresee it" isn't a defense. I don't even believe Dubyuh thinks the DHS/TSA was a clusterfuck. He probably views it as one of his greatest accomplishments of this country since the Declaration of Independence was penned. I've never heard him (or anyone in DC) once even come anywhere close to criticizing it. Every time he had a speech regarding anything about it, it's as if that agency walks on water and saves this country multiple times every day, single-handedly. And if you cut their funding by $1, the terrorists win. The same way they apparently win if I bring toothpaste in my luggage, don't take off my shoes prior to boarding, and don't unpack then repack half my shit right at the security checkpoint in front of the TSA agents that would flunk out of a Best Buy security training seminar.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 18 2014,11:19
Yeah. I have always said DHS was Bush's primary mistake, you can find multiple instances of me saying that on this forum if you look hard enough.I'm just saying Obama owns it now, and he is even more responsible for it because he was supposed to be better than Bush.
DHS falls under the executive branch, iirc. Even if congress wont vote against it, Obama could easily dismantle it if he truly wanted to.
If he truly wanted to.
Posted by Leisher on Jun. 18 2014,11:19
Again, I'm not defending either's actions. I just enjoy that the right is doing to Obama what the left did to Bush.
Posted by TPRJones on Jun. 18 2014,11:29
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There are precisely 0 members of Congress on board with shutting down the DHS or TSA. I've got no idea why.
Because they're all power-hungry corrupt assholes, and the only mandates of the DHS and TSA is to solidify the power of the federal government at the expense of the people. That's like Congressional Viagra. Of course they don't want to shut it down.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2014,11:33
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There are precisely 0 members of Congress on board with shutting down the DHS or TSA. I've got no idea why.
Because they're all power-hungry corrupt assholes, and the only mandates of the DHS and TSA is to solidify the power of the federal government at the expense of the people. That's like Congressional Viagra. Of course they don't want to shut it down.
Which is why I don't believe the "couldn't foresee" it defense.
Posted by GORDON on Jun. 18 2014,11:38
You're suggesting that Bush had brilliant foresight?
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 18 2014,11:45
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You're suggesting that Bush had brilliant foresight?
I'm suggesting that one doesn't need a lot of imagination to realize that an organization which...
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...the only mandates of the DHS and TSA is to solidify the power of the federal government at the expense of the people.
... does shit like this has immortality as a foregone conclusion. I could've bought the TSA (much like the Social Security Act) as a temporary fix that went away after a decade or so, not a permanent cog that we were missing up to that point in time. < Once boxes of that kind are opened they are never closed > specifically because the dudes in charge of closing them are the ones that benefit most from keeping them open.
It's like asking Congress if Congress needs a raise. Of course Congress says yes.
Posted by Vince on Jun. 19 2014,08:35
My hope at this point is that a small government guy becomes President and uses the NSA databases to go back and pull all the "deleted" and otherwise lost documents of all the scandals over the last few years. Let some of these jokers go to prison and I think we'd see all sorts of legislation reining in federal authority.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 19 2014,09:25
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My hope at this point is that a small government guy becomes President...
Hope that party wins a significant segment of Congress and all the judicial appointees from previous administrations die or retire.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 20 2014,11:16
< Let's partition that shit >. Because if there's one thing the Sunni and Shi'ite communities can do, it's live next to each other in harmony.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 23 2014,10:14
Kerry: < We got your back >, < unless we don't >.
Posted by Malcolm on Jun. 24 2014,09:54
< Largest oil refinery > in Iraq taken.
Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 06 2014,18:32
< Kurds > want to cut ties. < Iran > has an opinion. Marvelous job we did over there.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 03 2014,12:39
< ISIL bitchslaps Kurds >.QUOTE
Terrorists of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) seized control of Iraq's biggest dam, an oilfield, and three more towns Sunday after inflicting their first major defeat on Kurdish forces since sweeping through the region in June.
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The ISIL transferred its wounded members to the Baiji hospital, where local citizens were forced to donate blood to the injured militants.
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The ISIL transferred its wounded members to the Baiji hospital, where local citizens were forced to donate blood to the injured militants.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 11 2014,10:48
< Former prez > refuses to leave office after losing elections.QUOTE
Washington, which helped install Maliki following its 2003 invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein, congratulated Haidar al-Abadi, a former Maliki lieutenant who was named by President Fouad Masoum to replace him.
But Maliki's Dawa Party declared his replacement illegal, and Maliki's son-in-law said he would overturn it in court. Washington delivered a stern warning to Maliki not to "stir the waters" by using force to cling to power.
But Maliki's Dawa Party declared his replacement illegal, and Maliki's son-in-law said he would overturn it in court. Washington delivered a stern warning to Maliki not to "stir the waters" by using force to cling to power.
Looks like we bet on the right horse in that race.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 11 2014,10:57
There is no "right horse" to be found in that part of the world.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 11 2014,11:10
(Leisher @ Aug. 11 2014,12:57)
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There is no "right horse" to be found in that part of the world.
< What a bargain > we paid to find out.
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The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans...
Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2014,11:16
< Iraq: > Troops, assholes. We want them over here. Now.< Kurds + air strikes > = not quite enough.
Posted by Malcolm on May 19 2015,11:13
< Iraq is getting > its ass kicked so badly, they're inviting the Iranians to help them.
Posted by Malcolm on May 21 2015,11:20
< US giving Iraq > anti-tank weapons. Wonder how many of them will end up in ISIL hands.
Posted by Malcolm on May 24 2015,11:14
< Iraqis fight like the French >.QUOTE
"What apparently happened was that the Iraqi forces just showed no will to fight," Carter said.