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Forum: Internet Links Topic: New York being insane again started by: Malcolm Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 31 2013,10:35
< Want a cigarette? > Got to be 21. This doesn't seem like that bad an idea until the following is brought up:QUOTE But some smokers say it's unfair and patronizing to tell people considered mature enough to vote and serve in the military that they're not old enough to decide whether to smoke. And cigarette manufacturers, who argue that the city's high cigarette taxes have fueled black-market sales, have suggested young adult smokers may just turn to illicit sellers. Fucking idiots. Posted by TPRJones on Nov. 01 2013,07:04
They're right, though. Although they'd never admit that the same is true of alcohol and drugs. Posted by Leisher on Nov. 01 2013,07:25
I think the logic is there to move the voting age to 21 as well. If you're not mature enough yet to decide whether or not you want to bring alcohol and/or tobacco products into your life, then you're certainly not mature enough to decide who should run this country. Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2013,07:28
Fuck that. I can serve, kill, and die for my country at 18. That age better start getting jacked up, too.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 01 2013,18:16
(Leisher @ Nov. 01 2013,10:25) QUOTE I think the logic is there to move the voting age to 21 as well. That'll never happen: stupid, inexperienced people ages 18-21 primarily vote democrat. Posted by Cakedaddy on Nov. 01 2013,20:58
If you join the military, then you can smoke and drink. If not, wait till you are 21.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 02 2013,09:18
(Cakedaddy @ Nov. 01 2013,23:58) QUOTE If you join the military, then you can smoke and drink. If not, wait till you are 21. Smoke, drink, and vote. If not, go fuck yourself. Love it. Reminds me of Starship Troopers. Posted by GORDON on Nov. 02 2013,09:42
BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T NEED TO BE BABY KILLERS IN ORDER TO HAVE FREEDOMS.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2013,10:42
(Cakedaddy @ Nov. 01 2013,22:58) QUOTE If you join the military, then you can smoke and drink. If not, wait till you are 21. Vaguely intrigued, but no. Military service isn't going to be the only way to earn privs. Posted by GORDON on Nov. 02 2013,10:54
Should be. If you can't be bothered to do service to the whole, then you shouldn't expect to receive all of the benefits provided by the whole. Not sayin that non-veterans should be enslaved or anything, but Heinlein had it right.
Posted by Leisher on Nov. 02 2013,13:01
As I've said before, create a domestic branch that does nothing but things like fighting fires, cleaning up neighborhoods, etc.
Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2013,17:08
(Leisher @ Nov. 02 2013,15:01) QUOTE As I've said before, create a domestic branch that does nothing but things like fighting fires, cleaning up neighborhoods, etc. Can think of all kinds of things that might be added to that list. But I'm not for this idea if the only ticket to get on the boat is getting yelled at loudly for months at a stretch and having it called "basic training." My ears work fine. Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2013,18:41
Sounds like time Bill Gates aint being Bill Gates, Steve Jobs aint being Steve Jobs, etc.
Posted by GORDON on Nov. 02 2013,20:05
(Malcolm @ Nov. 02 2013,20:08) QUOTE (Leisher @ Nov. 02 2013,15:01) QUOTE As I've said before, create a domestic branch that does nothing but things like fighting fires, cleaning up neighborhoods, etc. Can think of all kinds of things that might be added to that list. But I'm not for this idea if the only ticket to get on the boat is getting yelled at loudly for months at a stretch and having it called "basic training." My ears work fine. The purpose of doing that in the Marines is to make basic training more stressful than actual combat, so you aren't shocked by the stress of actual combat. A civilian equivalent would not need that aspect... but.... consequences for desertion/other rulebreaking need to be just as harsh as in the military. Either do the job or you're fucked, volunteer. Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 01 2015,10:38
< Happy Meals > to be regulated.
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