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Forum: Internet Links Topic: The Liberator started by: thibodeaux Posted by thibodeaux on May 03 2013,08:53
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Posted by Malcolm on May 03 2013,08:56
Disposable handguns. Sweet.
Posted by TheCatt on May 03 2013,09:05
Cool. But the one I was waiting for is either: prettier, or simply less ugly.
Posted by thibodeaux on May 03 2013,09:22
< The original Liberator >QUOTE It has been calculated that the average assembly time per pistol was 6.6 seconds. This gives the Liberator the somewhat dubious distinction that it is likely the only gun manufactured in less time than it took to load. Posted by Malcolm on May 04 2013,12:11
< Frightened old men attempt to legislate technology out of existence ... again >.QUOTE New York Congressman Steve Israel (D-Huntington) issued a statement calling for an extension of the Undetectable Firearms Act, as well as clauses dealing specifically with 3D-printed gun parts. ... One of the chief criticisms of 3D-printed handguns is that when Wilson releases the 3D-printable CAD files for the Liberator, there will be a lot of people who will print the gun without following the rules. Furthermore, the Register reports that there’s nothing in the design of the Liberator that makes the metal component necessary. This is a 100% effective way to deal with this new innovation because no criminals are smart enough to figure this out on their own. I think they're all still using slings or bows and arrows, which are from the same era Steve Israel is living in. QUOTE The revamped Undetectable Firearms Act that Rep. Israel wrote makes it illegal to manufacture, own, transport, buy, or sell any firearm, receiver, or magazine that is homemade and not detectable by metal detector and/or does not present an accurate image when put through an x-ray machine. Yep. That'll stop 'em. Posted by GORDON on May 04 2013,14:36
Just one more law they can charge you with when you commit a single "crime." Reminds me of the newish law that says it is illegal to have false data in your DNS registry, IF you use that domain name to commit a crime. They will charge you with whatever crime you committed, and the fake DNS info.So it's all dumb. Posted by TheCatt on May 04 2013,14:45
Every time I read this thread, I just think of < This. >
Posted by GORDON on May 05 2013,18:42
New York Democrat has made a move to block the release of the plans.< http://www.nydailynews.com/news....1335599 > Posted by TPRJones on May 06 2013,07:08
The whole point is you can't stop it with legislation. Clearly these old guiys aren't getting that point.
Posted by Malcolm on May 06 2013,07:08
(GORDON @ May 05 2013,20:42) QUOTE New York Democrat has made a move to block the release of the plans. < http://www.nydailynews.com/news....1335599 > Whatever. Some crooked nerd will figure out how to duplicate the process and technology. Then Pirate Bay, then the world. Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2013,10:20
< More uproar from stuffy, old white dudes >.QUOTE Californian senator Leland Yee said he wanted a law passed to stop the manufacture of 3D-printed guns. "I plan to introduce legislation that will ensure public safety and stop the manufacturing of guns that are invisible to metal detectors and that can be easily made without a background check," he said in a statement. According to Defense Distributed, most of the 100,000 downloads have been in the US, followed by Spain, Brazil, Germany and the UK. Hmm, only 100K? Man, that's barely a dent. Still, I'd expect governments to take legal actions, mainly because like the UK and US, they're run by scared, old men who still cower in terror and amazement whenever an incandescent lightbulb provides illumination. QUOTE The blueprint has also been uploaded to file-sharing site the Pirate Bay, where it has become the most popular file in the site's 3D-printing category. Booyah. Posted by TPRJones on May 09 2013,12:04
I'm tempted to download it myself and find interesting new ways to spread it around, and I don't even have a 3-d printer.Maybe embed it as hidden metadata in a jpg that goes viral? Posted by GORDON on May 09 2013,12:05
Copy it to a thumb drive, give it to a kid to take to school, and call the police and tell them a child has the specs to make a plastic gun in his bookbag, and see if they lock down the school.
Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2013,12:17
(GORDON @ May 09 2013,14:05) QUOTE Copy it to a thumb drive, give it to a kid to take to school, and call the police and tell them a child has the specs to make a plastic gun in his bookbag, and see if they lock down the school. Just wait until some kid does that at a school with a 3-D printer. Granted, he'll need some ammo. Posted by GORDON on May 09 2013,12:20
(Malcolm @ May 09 2013,15:17) QUOTE (GORDON @ May 09 2013,14:05) QUOTE Copy it to a thumb drive, give it to a kid to take to school, and call the police and tell them a child has the specs to make a plastic gun in his bookbag, and see if they lock down the school. Just wait until some kid does that at a school with a 3-D printer. Granted, he'll need some ammo. Or a picture of a 3D printer. Posted by TheCatt on May 09 2013,17:43
< Government orders them to remove the drawings. >Guess they've never heard of file sharing... Posted by Malcolm on May 09 2013,18:08
QUOTE The blueprints have already been downloaded 100,000 times and are being held by fellow digital renegade Kim Dotcom in his offshore New Zealand servers. For further insurance, the files have also been uploaded to the popular file-sharing network, the Pirate Bay (we can feel our anarchist readers getting goosebumps right now). I'm supposed to believe the U.S. gov't, that routinely has its machines hacked to shit by China and fuck knows who else, has the techie wherewithal to enforce this? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Go ahead, make all the laws you want. It's out. I'm waiting for the first automatic weapon to be printed. Wonder how long until the first D.C. politician gets shot by one of these. Furthermore, what happens if I set up a few ships just outside international waters and open up a floating gun shop? Posted by GORDON on May 09 2013,18:38
(TheCatt @ May 09 2013,20:43) QUOTE < Government orders them to remove the drawings. > Guess they've never heard of file sharing... Is that legal without making them classified? Posted by Troy on May 09 2013,18:47
I would think this is getting bigger backlash internationally. America has no lack of guns already.
Posted by GORDON on May 09 2013,18:48
It's the ammo no one can seem to get.
Posted by TPRJones on May 10 2013,03:55
(GORDON @ May 09 2013,20:38) QUOTE Is that legal without making them classified? This is the federal government we are talking about, laws don't apply to them. Posted by Malcolm on May 10 2013,06:54
(TPRJones @ May 10 2013,05:55) QUOTE (GORDON @ May 09 2013,20:38) QUOTE Is that legal without making them classified? This is the federal government we are talking about, laws don't apply to them. Which is why I'm inclined to say fuck them until they act like adults on this issue. Posted by TPRJones on May 10 2013,07:05
I snagged the plans this morning myself. Now to figure out somewhere interesting to put them, hidden in plain sight. Hmmmm...
Posted by Malcolm on May 10 2013,07:08
(Troy @ May 09 2013,20:47) QUOTE I would think this is getting bigger backlash internationally. America has no lack of guns already. I think they're pissed they didn't get there first. And they don't seem to mind our "no lack of guns" thing when they all < buy their weapons from us >. And Russia, I guess. But most of the shit they're selling is old Soviet surplus. |