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Topic: Hey Cake, you live in Detroit, so tell me...
started by: GORDON

Posted by GORDON on Mar. 31 2013,16:37
Is this that pizza that we've had at your place a couple times?

< http://www.freep.com/article....ionwide >

Posted by Malcolm on Mar. 31 2013,16:55
Detroit style pizza?  Like they force you to buy it at gunpoint?
Posted by GORDON on Mar. 31 2013,16:57
One comment I saw was, "Doesn't the sauce leak through the bullet holes?"
Posted by TheCatt on Mar. 31 2013,17:19
Detroit style pizza is pretty good, I LOVE carmelized (burnt?) cheese at the top. The crispy is delicious.   And Buddy's is where I got it.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Mar. 31 2013,20:48
No.  We had Pizza Papalis.  Buddy's is good too.  Actually, I'd say it's really good.  But, it's extremely, obscenely over priced.  Pizza Papalis is way better, and a bit less expensive.  Buddy's charges more because it's "Buddy's", not because it deserves it.  It would still be a more expensive pizza because it's good enough to be.  But not as expensive as it is.

There is now a Pizza Papalis in Toledo.  By the new stadium down town I believe.  When ordering, keep in mind that their pizzas feed twice as many people as a normal pizza.  If you and 3 other people normally split two medium pizzas, one medium Papalis pizza will be enough.  It's Chicago style and it's really really thick.  Also justifies the high price.  You are getting a lot more food in their mediums.  This is the best pizza I've ever had.  Second best would be a place in the Connecticut area.  I don't remember the place, or exactly what I ordered.  But it was amazing.  I would put Gino's pizza above Buddy's, just by a bit.

I never knew that was "detroit style".  We order that Pizza all the time.  It's what I would consider good, cheap pizza.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 01 2013,10:10
Pizza Papalis has been downtown for 2 years now.

It's decent, but you've got to get it fresh from the oven. Also, their sauce could be better.

Takes 45 minutes to bake one, so plan for the wait.

At night it turns more into a bar with live bands and whatnot, especially during baseball season. Thus, if you're doing the family thing hit it during the dinner hours to avoid the young adult/obnoxious drunk crowd. (Although, the obnoxious drunks head there after Hens games too.)

It's also not "Detroit style". It's Chicago style. They invented the deep dish pizza, or so I've been led to believe.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 01 2013,10:19
You are insane with the "could be better".  I had already pointed out that it was Chicago style.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 01 2013,10:31
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I had already pointed out that it was Chicago style.


I never listen to you.

Just kidding, I skimmed and missed that. I think I was too stunned reading that someone thought there was a "Detroit Style".

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You are insane with the "could be better".


You would be wrong about that.

Granted, each location might be different, but I don't think their sauce is perfect, nor do I think they put enough on.

It also might be the cooks involved. I've had nights where you cut into and it oozes out sauce and melted cheese, and other nights where it seems like they're rationing for war.

Oh, and it sucks cold. (Although, I think most pizza sucks cold.)

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 01 2013,10:37
Not a cold pizza fan.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 01 2013,11:00
If you think this pizza is Chicago style, you people have no idea what Chicago style pizza means.

It's DEFINITELY Detroit style.  It's like Sicilian pizza crust, but with sauce on top, and they often double-bake the crust, and usually oil or butter it.



Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2013,11:04

(TheCatt @ Apr. 01 2013,13:00)
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If you think this pizza is Chicago style, you people have no idea what Chicago style pizza means.

I'll support this.  < Pizza varieties in the U.S. >
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 01 2013,11:08

(Malcolm @ Apr. 01 2013,14:04)
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(TheCatt @ Apr. 01 2013,13:00)
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If you think this pizza is Chicago style, you people have no idea what Chicago style pizza means.

I'll support this.  < Pizza varieties in the U.S. >

Yes, that shows an actual Chicago-style pizza.
Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 01 2013,11:09

(GORDON @ Apr. 01 2013,13:37)
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Not a cold pizza fan.

Agreed.  I've never understood liking cold pizza.
Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 01 2013,11:22

(TheCatt @ Apr. 01 2013,13:09)
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(GORDON @ Apr. 01 2013,13:37)
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Not a cold pizza fan.

Agreed.  I've never understood liking cold pizza.

Cold pizza's like warm beer, shit has to be designed with that serving style in mind.  And it's usually a path best left untrodden.
Posted by Leisher on Apr. 01 2013,12:16
Based on that Wiki, Chicago style is still the best description of Pizza Papalis' pizza. In fact, their tag line is "Authentic Chicago Pizza". Again, according to the Wiki, they make the "stuffed" version of the Chicago style.

Oh, and the picture in that Wiki for Chicago style looks exactly like Pizza Papalis' pies.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 01 2013,13:21
Ah, yeah, the Pizza Papoli's is definitely Chicago style, the key being the stuffed, not just deep dish.  

Damn that stuff is good.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 01 2013,14:56

(TheCatt @ Apr. 01 2013,14:09)
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(GORDON @ Apr. 01 2013,13:37)
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Not a cold pizza fan.

Agreed.  I've never understood liking cold pizza.

Waiting for Cakedaddy to tell me I am wrong, that I actually do like cold pizza.
Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 01 2013,15:01
Was going to point that out too.  The Chicago Style on the wiki could very well be a Pizza Papalis pizza.

Maybe the Toledo store if fucking shit up then.  We've eaten at 4 different stores up here and the pizzas are always exactly the same.  To say there's not enough sauce would imply you like pizza soup.  There's sauce in between the layers of crust as well as sauce on top.  I normally order extra sauce on every other pizza I order, except for Ginos and Papalis.  So, again, if you want even more sauce. . . you are eating soup.

There are only two conclusions.
1. You are insane.
2. Toledo is fuckin' shit up.

And cold pizza is not edible.

Posted by Cakedaddy on Apr. 01 2013,15:03

(GORDON @ Apr. 01 2013,17:56)
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(TheCatt @ Apr. 01 2013,14:09)
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(GORDON @ Apr. 01 2013,13:37)
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Not a cold pizza fan.

Agreed.  I've never understood liking cold pizza.

Waiting for Cakedaddy to tell me I am wrong, that I actually do like cold pizza.

Being that I've never seen, or heard about you eating/liking cold pizza, I have no evidence to say that you like it.  So, until further evidence surfaces, I'll say that you don't like it.

But, if I was a betting man, I'd bet you DO like it, because you are wrong about everything else.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 01 2013,16:10

(Cakedaddy @ Apr. 01 2013,18:01)
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Maybe the Toledo store if fucking shit up then.  We've eaten at 4 different stores up here and the pizzas are always exactly the same.  To say there's not enough sauce would imply you like pizza soup.  There's sauce in between the layers of crust as well as sauce on top.  I normally order extra sauce on every other pizza I order, except for Ginos and Papalis.  So, again, if you want even more sauce. . . you are eating soup.

There are only two conclusions.
1. You are insane.
2. Toledo is fuckin' shit up.

And cold pizza is not edible.

Like I said, we've had a couple that were oozing sauce and cheese, but more often than not, it isn't.

So I'm more than willing to concede it's a quality control issue.

But yeah, they still need to improve that sauce.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 01 2013,16:36
I like heavy sauce on a pizza.

Unless it is a NY style thin.  Then I just want regular sauce.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 01 2013,17:31
Unlike Gordon, I like heavy sauce.  In fact, I like having extra sauce in which to dip my pizza.

And they never provide enough pizza sauce with cheese/bread sticks these days.

Posted by GORDON on Apr. 01 2013,17:42
I like heavy sauce on the regular crusts, and the thick crusts/pan.  I am not a huge fan of Marco's Pizza, but they are one of the few places that can find my house when they deliver, AND they have online ordering, AND they have an option for "Triple Sauce" when you customize a pie, AND... the most important AND... they actually follow through with the triple sauce.  It is glorious.

But for a thin, I just want regular sauce.  I don't know why.  It's almost like an entirely different thing.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 01 2013,17:43
Wow, triple sauce.  Now I'm jealous.
Posted by GORDON on Apr. 01 2013,17:46
Next time you order online, there is usually a "special instructions" field in there.  Usually I put in something like, "Play some upbeat music while you make the pie, so it is awash in good vibes before I eat it,' but you might try putting in there, "Hey, hit a brother with some triple sauce."  Maybe they will pay attention.


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