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Topic: 2008 MN Senate race stolen by 1100 illegal votes
started by: GORDON

Posted by GORDON on Aug. 07 2012,14:19
< http://washingtonexaminer.com/york-wh....2504163 >

1100 felons voted in the election.  They skew democrat.  Franken won by 312 votes.

Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 07 2012,14:30
Easiest solution to voter fraud is to require any election to end with a 66/33 majority or better to count.  That should be more than enough to cover the fraud margin.  And if no one can get 66% of the vote, then no one fills the office until next time there are elections.

What's the point of having someone in office that less than 2/3rds of the people approve of, anyway?



Posted by GORDON on Aug. 07 2012,14:40
Did Obamacare pass the senate by 1 vote?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 08 2012,08:29

(TPRJones @ Aug. 07 2012,16:30)
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Easiest solution to voter fraud is to require any election to end with a 66/33 majority or better to count.  That should be more than enough to cover the fraud margin.  And if no one can get 66% of the vote, then no one fills the office until next time there are elections.

What's the point of having someone in office that less than 2/3rds of the people approve of, anyway?

66% of all theoretically available voters or people who show up?  Because all those people not showing up pretty much aren't approving, either.
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 08 2012,09:03
Of those showing up, I guess.  We can't expect perfection, after all.
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 08 2012,11:31
You could have offices that remain vacant forever.  Not that I'm saying it's a tremendous downside.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 08 2012,11:37

(Malcolm @ Aug. 08 2012,14:31)
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You could have offices that remain vacant forever.  Not that I'm saying it's a tremendous downside.

That's an interesting idea.  A majority vote of "None of the Above" would actually leave a seat vacant.  I bet the majority of congressional seats would be left empty, at least for 1 term.
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 08 2012,11:45
I see no problem with that at all.  Congress is supposed to steer the ship of state.  It's not the engine.  We'd just keep going on the same course if Congress were mostly vacant for awhile.  And given how they perform most of the time that would be much preferable to them being in there messing things up worse.

If it became a problem, then maybe we'd have better candidates as good people stepped up to do what was needed.  Part of the reason there are no good candidates these days is that the job of Congress is not one that is all that vital and necessary.  It's just a job for the power hungry and greedy.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 08 2012,12:50
< Nevada allows none of the above. >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 08 2012,13:32

(GORDON @ Aug. 08 2012,13:37)
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(Malcolm @ Aug. 08 2012,14:31)
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You could have offices that remain vacant forever.  Not that I'm saying it's a tremendous downside.

That's an interesting idea.  A majority vote of "None of the Above" would actually leave a seat vacant.  I bet the majority of congressional seats would be left empty, at least for 1 term.

I've been saying for years that folk should be allowed to cast anti-votes.  Instead of electing the person most everyone votes for, elect the one the least amount of people despise.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 08 2012,15:03
I think it would be great if there were too few congressmen in office to keep passing laws every day.... then there would be nothing for the President to do... legally.  The President seems to do whatever he wants for the most part, though, and the Supreme Court doesn't seem too interested in stopping him any more.

Our government and country is well and truly fucked.

Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 08 2012,15:14
You assume we would still have a President, given those voting options.  I'm not so sure.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 08 2012,15:21
Yeah, well, can you imagine our current crop of highly honorable elected officials actually voting themselves out of power, just because it was good for the country?
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 08 2012,16:49
No.  It would take another Constitutional Convention.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 08 2012,16:50
And that means revolution, which I have been saying for a while.
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