Forum: Internet Links
Topic: Trashing the R's
started by: GORDON

Posted by GORDON on Aug. 15 2011,08:20
I am already seeing negative MSM articles about Republican contenders, so I made this thread for us to list them.

The 2012 campaign has started with the media.  Time to get Obama reelected.

This was the headline on msnbc front page.
< 'She came into the room like she was Madonna': Bachmann irks some >


Washington Post: < Perry welcomed Chinese firm despite security concern >

Aaaaaaaaaaand we're off.

Just post the really obvious 1-sided, anti-R stuff in this thread, from the major media (Not Bob's rant website).  I predict it will be a big thread.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 15 2011,08:33
< Perry's job boom - the whole story >

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Texas has created a lot of jobs over the 10 years that Rick Perry's been governor -- there's no doubt about it.

Perry, who formally launched his presidential candidacy on Saturday, is making his state's economic prowess a centerpiece of his campaign. Already he's been bragging about his state being the "epicenter of job growth."

Texas has gained more than 1 million net new jobs in the decade Perry has led the state. And it's been going strong since the recession ended.

But that doesn't mean that all is well with employment in the Lone Star State. Texas leads the nation in minimum-wage jobs, and many positions don't offer health benefits. Also, steep budget cuts are expected to result in the loss of more than 100,000 jobs.

Perhaps most importantly, Texas can't create jobs fast enough to keep up with its rapidly growing population. Since 2007, the state's number of working-age residents expanded by 6.6%, nearly twice the national average.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 15 2011,12:38
< Is Rick Perry as religious as he thinks he is? >

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Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who just announced he's running for president, has taken a different tack. A week before announcing his candidacy, he led a prayer meeting for evangelical Christians in Houston.

In any case, Gov. Perry's decision to make his Christian faith a central part of his political identity opens him up to questions not usually asked of presidential candidates.

The press has traditionally been unwilling to question politicians about their religion. But in Perry's case, Christianity is front and center on his platform. I hope David Gregory will ask him some of the following questions when he next appears on Meet the Press, and that other members of the media won't shy away from them either.

First, are Rick Perry's political positions in line with Christ's teachings?

I see a fundamental inconsistency between Perry's concerted opposition to government social programs and his promotion of himself as a Christian politician. When asked about the impact of Texas's low-tax, low-service policies on the poor, he suggested that people who wanted more government services could find them in New York or California.

Christ teaches us to feed the hungry and care for the sick, not to abandon them. Perhaps Gov. Perry hasn't read that part of the Bible where Christ admonishes us to care for "the least among us."  

Posted by thibodeaux on Aug. 15 2011,12:43
I know that I haven't read the part of the Bible where Christ says, "and be sure to have the government borrow money or tax it from rich people to pay for your Christian charity."
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 15 2011,17:33
Maybe Jesus didn't say it, but < it's there somewhere >.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 15 2011,17:37

(Malcolm @ Aug. 15 2011,20:33)
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Maybe Jesus didn't say it, but < it's there somewhere >.

No, that's saying to make sure to give it up to the church, too.

The one person I know who tithes religiously (ahem) says you are supposed to tithe 10% of your income, pre-tax.

You're supposed to render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasar's, but only after you render unto your local church organization.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 15 2011,22:17

(GORDON @ Aug. 15 2011,19:37)
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No, that's saying to make sure to give it up to the church, too.

The one person I know who tithes religiously (ahem) says you are supposed to tithe 10% of your income, pre-tax.

You're supposed to render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasar's, but only after you render unto your local church organization.

A) Forced charity isn't charity.  It's extortion via social pressure.

B) Why does it get funneled through the religious bureaucracy?  Christ gave things directly to the beggars, why the hell shouldn't his followers follow his example and cut out the damn middleman?  

C) You really don't know someone in your local community that could use the $50 floating in your pocket?  Go prove your charity without a black shirt and white collar acting as proxy.  Jesus never gave goods to the Pharisees and said, "Go disperse this among the needy."  Jesus did it himself.

Posted by thibodeaux on Aug. 16 2011,04:32
Since moving to the Big City, it has been my observation that, just like "mainstream" media, "mainstream" churches are now bastions of Leftism.

In fact, it looks more and more that Leftism is a form of Christianity---it's basically Puritanism. The people (rich Northeastern establishment types) and institutions (the Ivy League schools were all seminaries to begin with) are the same.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 16 2011,05:58
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Since moving to the Big City, it has been my observation that, just like "mainstream" media, "mainstream" churches are now bastions of Leftism.


The church is an organization that wants a pound of flesh from their consumers too. Isn't it typically 10%? So they're going to support taxation.

They're also going to push the social programs because the whole compassion thing is part of their book, and most of any church's programs are the same as federally run programs.

On a side note, if church's were smart they'd realize that the government is direct competition with them here. The church's should be making plays to take those programs and the funding away from the government and make themselves more relevant again.

Finally, who is more likely to fill a church on Sunday, blue collar union guys or people who live in gated communities? Churches are simply pandering to their audiences.

Posted by GORDON on Aug. 16 2011,06:32

(Leisher @ Aug. 16 2011,08:58)
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Finally, who is more likely to fill a church on Sunday, blue collar union guys or people who live in gated communities? Churches are simply pandering to their audiences.

As are a lot of the politicians who publicly go to them... we haven't seen a lot of athiest politicians, have we.  They know most religious people wont vote for an athiest.  So they pretend and use the church to network.



Posted by GORDON on Aug. 16 2011,13:51
MSNBC: Did Perry Go Too Far?

< http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news....too-far >

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A day after appearing to outshine Michele Bachmann on her home turf in Waterloo, albeit with some tough rhetoric aimed at President Obama, Rick Perry might have gone a bit too far in criticizing Obama and even the Federal Reserve while campaigning in Iowa yesterday. For Texans, this is typical Perry. But for Americans who do not know him, it's eyebrow-raising rhetoric. In fact, he sounded more like Trump or Gingrich. "I think the greatest threat to our country right now is this president trying to spend his way out of this debt," Perry said last night in Cedar Rapids, per NBC’s Carrie Dann.


How dare he.



Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 16 2011,16:00

(Leisher @ Aug. 16 2011,07:58)
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Churches are simply pandering to their audiences.

So is Hustler, but Larry Flynt doesn't pretend he's doing god's will or trying to save your soul.  Some cons trick people out of something worldly (say $100) for the false promise of something else worldly (maybe $1000).  That's one thing.  But duping people out of worldly things for some vague promises of shit on some possible plane of existence after this reality (happiness in an eternal afterlife v. eternal hellish damnation) puts you in a special category of "evil bastard."
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 16 2011,17:38
< Perry's four economic vulnerabilities. >
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 16 2011,18:11
New York Times: < Perry's job boom in Texas was just luck. >
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 16 2011,18:20

(Leisher @ Aug. 16 2011,19:38)
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< Perry's four economic vulnerabilities. >

The last one on that list is kind of a dumb-ass thing to say.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 20 2011,20:45
< Perry sticks to his guns on controversial comments >

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Perry, who earlier this week accused climate change scientists of manipulating information for financial gain, doubled down on his skepticism that manmade phenomena are affecting the world's climate.


Ah, so he gambles.

I stopped reading the article when they called other things he said 'treasonous.'

Posted by GORDON on Aug. 20 2011,20:46
< Bachmann blames gaffes on busy speaking schedule >

She obviously can't handle stress.  It causes her to make mistakes.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 21 2011,18:19

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 21 2011,18:35
I don't care if it was a man or woman, Republican or Democrat or whatever, black or white, etc.

If someone on the campaign trail wanted to act like Linda Lovelace on camera, I'm publishing it.

Posted by GORDON on Aug. 21 2011,19:37
How can you not know that a corndog is ALWAYS  bad idea.  While politicking.
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 23 2011,16:42
Don't forget her not-gay husband (who's totally not gay):


Posted by Leisher on Aug. 23 2011,17:06

(TPRJones @ Aug. 23 2011,19:42)
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Don't forget her not-gay husband (who's totally not gay):


Oh come on... whoever approved this campaign stop needs to be fired.
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 24 2011,12:19
Yesterday on MSN.com they ran a big story about how Obama's poll numbers against the Republican candidates are weak. The biggest news in the article was that Obama would lose an election to Romney if it was held today.

So of course today's story < bashes Romney. >

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 25 2011,22:00
< This article is so ridiculously spun it's pure insanity. >
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 29 2011,12:01
< Bachmann says Irene is message from God to DC. >

That's the headline, both of the article, and the headline being run on MSN.

Of course, when you actually read the article (and to their credit they put this in the first paragraph) you find this:
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Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann's campaign said Monday she was only joking when she described Hurricane Irene and last week's earthquake in the eastern United States as a warning from God.


Three things...
1. The headlines are perfect "gray area" material for anyone who wants to make her look like an idiot. Even if she did actually say it in jest, taking it out of context is a way to hurt her.
2. She's an idiot. First she's guzzling foot long corn dogs like she's 12 beers into a kegger at a frat house, and now she's making jokes about a hurricane that did actually kill some folks.
3. On a different note, the Republican candidates' constant use of God annoys the piss out of me. For once I'd like to see a Republican candidate say "My religion and religious beliefs are my own business. Judge me for my actions as a leader, and by my record. Don't just assume that I'm ideal for this job because I worship the same God in the same way as you." Then the candidate never mentions God again until his/her swearing in ceremony. Sure, they might be seen leaving their church after services, but they don't address it.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 29 2011,14:40
Well, it seemed that the "jest" thing was what her campaign said later.  I'd have to see footage to see how "jesty" she was.

But, I'm sick as hell of Republicans using God, too.  Or, any politicians.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 29 2011,14:56
Abcnews has updated the headline to "Bachmann Jokes Irene Was God's Warning "
Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 29 2011,16:13

(Leisher @ Aug. 29 2011,14:01)
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3. On a different note, the Republican candidates' constant use of God annoys the piss out of me. For once I'd like to see a Republican candidate say "My religion and religious beliefs are my own business. Judge me for my actions as a leader, and by my record. Don't just assume that I'm ideal for this job because I worship the same God in the same way as you." Then the candidate never mentions God again until his/her swearing in ceremony. Sure, they might be seen leaving their church after services, but they don't address it.

If they did that, they wouldn't be a Republican.  Used to be that would be fine and dandy, but these days the Republicans have become synonymous with Christian Right.  The two are inseparable, at least for now.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 29 2011,16:25
And Obama attended a angry-black-people church for a bunch of years, and nobody ever noticed.  It's only bad when Republicans do it.


Posted by GORDON on Aug. 31 2011,09:49
Democrat Representative:  Straight up - the Tea Party wants to lynch black folks.

< http://www.foxnews.com/politic....on-tree >

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2011,12:46
Do you think we're seeing all the racist talk from the black Dems because more blacks are skewing Republican or Indy?

I realize the numbers are still low, but they are growing.

Posted by TPRJones on Aug. 31 2011,13:56
I think we are seeing all that racist talk from the black Dems because that is what the black Dems do, and have done for decades.
Posted by GORDON on Aug. 31 2011,20:40
Tea Party are racists.  FYI.

< http://hotair.com/archive....-carson >

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And earlier Wednesday, Jason Tomsci, a Carson aide, said the congressman’s sentiments were valid. “Members of the tea party are holding up a lot of things that the president wants to do and want to gut critical services and programs that they know are important to African Americans as well as Latinos and other minorities,” Tomsci said.

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