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Forum: Internet Links Topic: Ohio's Senate Bill 5 started by: Leisher Posted by Leisher on Feb. 21 2011,07:15
< Article. >It's just like the < Wisconsin bill >. Posted by unkbill on Feb. 22 2011,17:51
There is hereby created the Ohio community service council consisting of twenty-one voting members including the superintendent of public instruction or the superintendent's designeeYup break the unions, save the state money. Then how much money does everyone think this new commity will save the state. Yes the bill states they get there own building and get to hires secretarys and shit. Posted by Leisher on Mar. 03 2011,07:52
< It looks like Ohio will pass it before Wisconsin. >Differences in the bills: QUOTE The Ohio bill would ban strikes by public workers and establish penalties for those who do participate in walkouts. State workers in Wisconsin are already prohibited from striking. Unionized workers in Ohio could negotiate wages, hours and certain work conditions — but not health care, sick time or pension benefits. The measure would do away with automatic pay raises, and base future wage increases on merit. Wisconsin's measure would forbid most government workers from collectively bargaining except over wage increases that aren't beyond the rate of inflation. Police and firefighters would be exempt. At least with the Ohio one, the unions need to shut the fuck up, and perhaps that's why it's not getting as much press? Harder to make Republicans look like monsters trying to kill the "working man" when they're still letting them negotiate wages, hours, and work conditions... And how much do you love the "raises based on merit" part? The world of professional sports needs this is the worst possible way. Just so you understand that my position isn't just an "anti-union" one: QUOTE Standing in the rotunda afterward, Columbus firefighter Terry Marsh said he understood the Legislature's need to look for ways to save on costs and examine collective bargaining. "But to ram something through within a few weeks is irresponsible, and to blame the budget woes of the state on the workers is a downright travesty," he said. While I do think unions have more power than they need, and that's coming from someone who has a ton of union members as friends and in his family, I also don't think they should have been targeted first. Welfare, I'm looking at you. |