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Topic: NFL 2009-2010 Season
started by: Leisher

Posted by Leisher on Jul. 28 2009,20:24

Might as well give this season its own thread.

We'll start with Favre. He actually found a way to fuck Minnesota over one more time through retirement. I think that should cement Malcolm's hatred. (And oh shit, why were the Steelers just mentioned during their talk about Favre? John Anderson just told what's her name "We know you're not at the Steelers camp, but keep your ear to the ground just in case." She smiled and said she would. They were implying something about Favre.)

Speaking of Big Ben, this whole thing smells like Kobe Bryant part 2. I don't think Kobe raped that girl, I don't think Ben did, nor do I think Tyson did. William Kennedy Smith did though.

Next is Plaxico and the news that now the DA is going after Pierce as well. I think the Pierce situation could be devastating to the Giants D, despite the fact that they're stacked there.

Let's finish with Vick. Vegas has the Steelers and Patriots as the favorites to land him? WTF?!? You can actually bet on it. Most outlets are reporting both franchises as the last ones who would even try for him due to the strong families and well run teams. The Steelers have Dennis Dixon to run some of their trick plays, they don't need Vick.

I think he ends up in Oakland, Miami, or Washington.

Posted by Malcolm on Jul. 29 2009,08:26

I was ecstatic when I heard Favre wasn't coming here. He did his trademark 180 in a span of about two or three days. Went from, "I'll play if my arm feels good, that's the only question," to, "I'm not sure if I can physically make it." Gung-ho to pussy.

I hope Plax is destroyed. He's got an ego on his shoulders the size of Napoleon's. He broke a stupid law, granted, but he's such a 'tard that I don't feel quite that bad.

Vick? Yeah, I could see the Fins or Raiders taking a chance on him. They ain't got much to lose anyhow.

Posted by unkbill on Jul. 29 2009,15:49

(Malcolm @ Jul. 29 2009,08:26)

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I was ecstatic when I heard Favre wasn't coming here. .

Amen brother. Gives me a better chance to see my team win before I die.

Posted by GORDON on Jul. 29 2009,15:50

Congrats on starting a new thread for a new season. Well done.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2009,07:11

I don't care who was playing, it was great having football back.

I'm already getting fantasy football invites up the wazoo.

Speaking of that, who sets up the dtman football pick pools? Would we have interest in doing a fantasy league?

On the stuff I first posted:

The woman accusing Big Ben of rape allegedly < bragged about the sex to a co-worker. > Even saying that she was hoping she was pregnant with a "little Roethlisberger". So now, she has zero witnesses, never filed a police report, and there's a witness coming forward claiming that she bragged about the sex. I honestly think this woman's lawyer should be investigated by his state's bar. They should review the facts and evidence that he was presented and if it's determined that this was nothing more than an attempt to extort money from a rich person, he should be striped of his license.

I don't think we'll see Plax this year. Hopefully, he'll get treated like any other citizen and we won't see him for 3 years. And I don't say that to be mean to Plax. I say it because no matter of one's status, we should all face the same punishments.

People < protested Vick at the Hall of Fame. > The teams I've heard as being most interested in him so far are Seattle and Green Bay. I find it very interesting that nobody has signed him yet. Considering the protest this weekend, you've got to wonder if any team wants that publicity. And honestly, I don't think it's fair. Vick is a scumbag, yes. However, according to our laws, he has paid his debt and should now be allowed to resume his life without having people out there trying to stop that from happening.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2009,07:50

(Leisher @ Aug. 10 2009,09:11)

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Would we have interest in doing a fantasy league?

I'm game.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 10 2009,09:15

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I find it very interesting that nobody has signed him yet.

I think teams are waiting to see how they are going to do first. No need to take the heat if things go better then expected for you. Plus why take the heat for a guy who has not played in several years and wasn't a good QB to begin with.

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And honestly, I don't think it's fair. Vick is a scumbag, yes. However, according to our laws, he has paid his debt and should now be allowed to resume his life without having people out there trying to stop that from happening.

He went to jail but I don't really think he has done anything to show that he is remorseful for what he did. He didn't stand up and say send me to jail for 2 years so I can show everyone that I am sorry for what I did. He only did what he had to do. I see it as he served his punishment but hasn't shown he deserve anything but being allowed to be out of jail. Some of the talking heads out there saying how he must be let back in or saying people shouldn't speak against him because he went to jail I don't agree with. If I don't want to root for a piece of shit on my team I shouldn't have to. If the team wants to sign him then I have to make a choice but I don't see anything wrong with people saying "I don't want my colored shirt to win badly enough to root for or employ this asshole."

I still think most of the Rams fans are crappy ass people for rooting for and not speaking out against Leonard Little.

Posted by Troy on Aug. 10 2009,09:58

If we have enough to do the fantasy league.. count me in.

Also, fuck the falcons, I hate being surrounded by people who think Matt Ryan is the next coming of ANYONE.

I mean, he looked good last year, but what is with this town and over hyping quarterbacks?

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2009,12:28

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but I don't really think he has done anything to show that he is remorseful for what he did.

Truthfully, he doesn't have to, that's something invented by PR people.

He did his time, end of story.

He could give speeches now talking about how he truly thinks all dogs should be tortured and killed, and LEGALLY it should have zero bearing on his employment. Now PR speaking, it'd get him, his team, and the NFL into all kinds of trouble.

And yeah, I don't want him on my team. No matter who he plays for, I'll be rooting for him to have a shitty career. Not because I don't think he shouldn't be employed, but because I've always thought of him as overrated and now I know he's a scumbag on top of that.

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Also, fuck the falcons, I hate being surrounded by people who think Matt Ryan is the next coming of ANYONE.

I mean, he looked good last year, but what is with this town and over hyping quarterbacks?

Atlanta, the NFL, and the MSM made Michael Vick into the single most overrated person in the history of sports. Was he exciting to watch? Sure, but only when he was running. Unfortunately, he played quarterback.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2009,12:45

I'm convinced Plax needs to go to jail for his stupidity alone. All you got to do is NOT carry a gun to the club. You're a fucking millionaire. If you want to show off, buy some fucking jewelry or a car. If you want protection, hire some bodyguards. & for fuck's sake, if you carry a concealed weapon illegally into a club, for fuck's sake, don't forget to set the safety & have it shoot your own leg.

If any team is psychotic/desperate enough to take Vick, he'll be on one of the shortest leashes in all of QB history. I can see his home crowd cheering when he gets sacked.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 10 2009,12:48

I know he doesn't have to but you were mentioning that it was unfair that others are still protesting him or trying to keep him out. I am just disagreeing. Thankfully the law isn't involved anymore because Goodell and fans can punish him more then the government ever could. I know it won't happen but I hope the negative press is so bad that no team takes him on or cuts him soon after signing because they don't think his skills are worth the trouble. For me and others he hasn't done anything yet to show that he deserves to be back in the league or that his is sorry.

To be honest though if you do what he did and didn't think there was something wrong then there really isn't anything he could do to satisfy me.

In the end I don't think it will really matter because we all know that this is going to end with him going back to jail because he financed a drug deal to make more money or he will be shot keeping it real.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 10 2009,12:51

(Malcolm @ Aug. 10 2009,12:45)

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Add don't go to the club to that list.

Seriously wouldn't it be very easy to just have his friends come to his mansion and invite a bunch of hot slutty chicks to hang out with. How would it be any different then a club?

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2009,13:01

Just so we're clear WSGrundy:

I've got no problem with this-

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others are still protesting him

I've got a big problem with this-

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trying to keep him out

I think Michael Vick is a worthless asshole and about as overrated as a person can get. If he got mauled by a pit bull tomorrow, I would laugh my ass off at the irony.

I also have no problem if people go out and protest their team saying that they don't want the team to sign this guy.

However, if an organization like PETA does everything it can to try and stop Michael Vick from ever playing any sort of pro football again...there's where I have a problem.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2009,13:55

Whoa, much as I hate PETA, they get to bitch about celebrities just like anyone else.

All Vick's got to do is find a team willing to pay & put up w\ him.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 10 2009,14:01

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Whoa, much as I hate PETA, they get to bitch about celebrities just like anyone else.

No, no, I don't give a fuck if they protest him. What I'm talking about is the active effort being made by some people who think he does not have a right to work in the NFL anymore. I'm not talking about people who will protest him where ever he goes, including PETA.

I'm talking about the folks who are taking protests that extra step in order to use politics to try and squeeze him out of a job.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 10 2009,14:57

(Leisher @ Aug. 10 2009,14:01)

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I'm talking about the folks who are taking protests that extra step in order to use politics to try and squeeze him out of a job.

I guess I just don't see how the two can be separated. Go out and make your displeasure known but make sure it is known that you don't want your anger to affect any decisions?

I am hoping that there are enough people out there making a big enough deal about this that it influences owners and he never gets a job in the nfl again. I don't think there is anything wrong with that or that it would happen but I would be happy to see it.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 10 2009,14:58

(Leisher @ Aug. 10 2009,16:01)

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I'm talking about the folks who are taking protests that extra step in order to use politics to try and squeeze him out of a job.

I consider them an offset to all the lawyers that used loopholes & politics to spin shit his direction.

If you pull something stupid like this, perpetual public hatred is a real possibility. If you aren't charismatic enough to avoid the PR nightmare you made for yourself, then that's another factor coming back to bite you in the ass. Lame-ass media/social backlash against crimes is a real consequence. It's not objective, it's not fair, it might not even solve anything. Advocates of such things aren't bright enough to bring up a factual, logical argument, so the best they can do is find other psychos that subjectively legitimize their position. If it works (& history has proven it has), then I'm finding it hard to call them cheaters for using tested tactics.

If their protests break the law (they start smashing shit up or trepass or anything), fine, arrest the fuckers & impose maximum penalties. Being a political asshat is still legal in this country, in theory. In practice, you get lambasted if it's unpopular.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 13 2009,19:03

< The Eagles get Vick >

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Vick arrived in Philadelphia Tuesday morning and remained there Wednesday evening. The Eagles will hold a news conference on Friday morning to announce his signing. The first year of the deal is for $1.6 million deal with an option for the second year at $5.2 million, FoxSports.com reports.

Posted by Troy on Aug. 13 2009,22:28

He'll probably play.. I mean.. McNabb is always 50/50 to try some lumbering charge with his knee right into a DB helmet.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 14 2009,12:20

This doesn't make any sense to me. You are going to bring in someone who many think can be a starting QB. Why in the hell they think that I don't know but they do plus the philly fan is about as fickle and disloyal as you can get. The moment mcnabb throws a incomplete pass the fans are going to want him replaced in game 7 and then you are going to bring in vick who can't pass on a team that has sucked at running for the last few seasons. So vick will come in and your offense will be terrible at the pass and run.

This makes some sense for vick because you could rape a school bus full of children and the philly fan will not care as long as you win since they are so desperate for a super bowl victory.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 14 2009,12:44

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He'll probably play.. I mean.. McNabb is always 50/50 to try some lumbering charge with his knee right into a DB helmet.

Yeah, he plays as insane as Steve McNair used to, but w\o his superhuman mutant healing abilities. That being said, McNabb used to be the premiere running QB, but he's been slowed by injuries recently. Vick is a fucking RB who occasionally throws a pass (w\ a ~40% completion ratio). I think the Eagles coaching staff is secretly hoping McNabb will convince Vick he needs to spend more time passing & less time scrambling.

I would absolutely love to see a game where a healthy Westbrook & Vick were running rampant on someone. It's going to be fun seeing how long Donovan goes w\o getting hurt. Once the RB is in & the Eagles O-line can't help him, he might have to use his wideouts.

Kevin Curtis? Alright, he's legit.
Reggie Brown? Eh, ok ... I guess he's a decent #2. DeSean Jackson? No thanks. Maybe in a couple years.

Philly's got an injury-prone QB, a RB whose legs may as well be made of glass, & one real WR.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 18 2009,19:53

< I think Malcolm's head just exploded. >

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 19 2009,06:37

(Leisher @ Aug. 18 2009,21:53)

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< I think Malcolm's head just exploded. >

Fuck the Vikings. Fuck Childress, fuck Zygi Wilf, & fuck Spielman. I hope they go winless this year & Favre gets knocked out for the season as Brady did last year. Absolutely fucking pathetic after all the shyte that's gone down.

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 19 2009,06:57

Their odds of winning the Super Bowl went from 1 in 25 to 1 in 12 overnight according to Vegas.

Malcolm, if they win the Super Bowl with Favre, do you still celebrate it or do you consider them to have sold their souls to the devil?

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 19 2009,07:07

(Leisher @ Aug. 19 2009,08:57)

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Fuck the Vikings. Till they bench that motherfucker, I don't consider them the home team. I'd rather've Rosenfels start than Favre. I'd rather've Warren Moon, right now, as opposed to Favre. I'd take Knute Rockne's corpse over Favre. The only redeeming feature Favre brings to the table is "at least it's not Vick."

Posted by unkbill on Aug. 19 2009,07:20

(Malcolm @ Aug. 19 2009,06:37)

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(Leisher @ Aug. 18 2009,21:53)

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< I think Malcolm's head just exploded. >

Was in the bar yesterday when it scrolled acrossed the bottom of the TV screen. I started cussing and throwing a fit. The barmaid was floored, she couldn't figure it out. I am the quite, polite one of the crowd. She fed me a free shot and asked what the problem was, could she fix it? Heh.
What was I to say. Go to minn. and shoot him.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 20 2009,10:52

I didn't think he would get < 2 years >.

I know the DA was talking tough but I figured they would let him plea bargain down to a few months in jail over several summers so he wouldn't miss playing time.

I didn't read all of the article but has anyone heard if it is defiantly 2 years or will he be getting out early because of good behavior?

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 20 2009,14:05

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"If he were just John Q Public he could have walked out of the club and he never would have been arrested."

Quote from Plax's shithead lawyer. I didn't see the "only applies to celebrities" clause in the "don't carry an unregistered, concealed firearm" law in New York.

& someone fucking explain to me how Plax gets two years in jail for having a gun while another fucker gets a year's suspension from football for running someone down.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 20 2009,19:44

Now I am seeing law analyst for the TV stations say 20 months for plaxico if he behaves. A guy on yahoo sports says just over a year but I don't have any idea what he is basing his article on.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 21 2009,01:07

Donte Stallworth, hitting & KILLING another human being : 30 days.

Plaxico Burress, shooting himself in the leg w\ an unregistered firearm : 24 months.

Fuck the U.S. legal system. You're as officially as broken as MLB's policy on steroid users.

Posted by unkbill on Aug. 21 2009,05:22

(Malcolm @ Aug. 21 2009,01:07)

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How about Vick. People get more worked up about hurting dogs than running down a Mexican.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 21 2009,08:04

(Malcolm @ Aug. 21 2009,04:07)

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Dont forget Donte was under the influence as well.

Yeah, that whole thing is retarded.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 21 2009,08:25

Well, apparently the person he ran over was jaywalking, so that's why the light sentence.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 21 2009,10:08

(TheCatt @ Aug. 21 2009,08:25)

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Well, apparently the person he ran over was jaywalking, so that's why the light sentence.

The family made a deal with Stalleworth. He is basically supporting them now since the man he killed was the earner at the house and paying for kids education and stuff like that. The family pressured the courts to give a lighter sentence because it wasn't going to help them for the provider to have died and Stalleworth not making any money to help them.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 21 2009,10:13

For the most part I am fine with the stalleworth, burress, and vick sentences although I wish vick would have gotten a bit more but if he can changes some others minds(big if) then I am fine with it.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 21 2009,10:53

Either the penalty for killing someone is bullshit or the penalty for carrying a gun is bullshit.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 21 2009,11:26

He wasn't just carrying a gun, he was firing a gun in a crowed area.

As for killing someone stalleworth should go to jail for a longer period of time then someone who almost killed someone I guess if all things are equal but not only would stalleworth have to sit in jail longer then he did but the family who just lost a husband,dad,grandfather and lone source of income also gets to lose their house and the kids get to miss out on higher education and maybe get to be homeless. I don't think the family should be punished anymore if they have agreed to the sentence just so plaxico can feel better about his sentence.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 21 2009,11:55

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he was firing a gun in a crowed area.

Come on. Yeah, it was a club. & yeah, he was drinking. & yeah, it should've been holstered & he should've had a permit for it.

Fine. Then the law doesn't apply to everyone equally. Why the fuck do we even bother writing them? I suppose as long as you can financially afford to run someone over, it's all good.

Posted by WSGrundy on Aug. 21 2009,13:09

No he just shouldn't have fired a gun into a crowd.

If anyone should be deciding the punishment of a murder it should be the victims family. They believe the best possible thing for them is to have him playing asap and supporting their family. If the drunk driver was you or me perhaps we would be sitting in jail for 20 years for manslaughter but the family wouldn't be any better off so I don't think the punishment should be the same for everyone when it is going to hurt more people. If the family had wanted stalleworth to get the death penalty then I wouldn't have had a real issue with that either but I don't think our wishes should be met before theirs.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 21 2009,14:09

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If anyone should be deciding the punishment of a murder it should be the victims family.

Given a legal system that decides guilt or innocence in a sane fashion, I might agree.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2009,00:09

Fantasy league? Pick 'ems? I'll set shyte up if enough folk are interested.

Posted by unkbill on Aug. 30 2009,09:33

I'm in

Posted by Leisher on Aug. 30 2009,10:14

I'll do fantasy and pick em.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2009,11:09

I'll get the pick 'ems going after my draft today. Unless we get more folk or leech onto an existing league, the fantasy football thing seems far-fetched.

Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 30 2009,12:53

I'm up for it, but yeah, 4 for FF is kinda small.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2009,13:27

Pick 'em #1 :
Name : Dtman - No Spread
ID : Group ID# 3595
pw : dtmangiggity

Pick 'em #2 :
Name : Dtman - Spread
ID : Group ID# 35961
pw : dtmangiggity

This is Yahoo's NFL pick 'em, by the by.

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2009,13:30

If we want a league, we'd need to grab at least six more people by week's end to draft next weekend.

Posted by Troy on Aug. 30 2009,14:40

1+ FF

Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 30 2009,15:51

I can probably drum up one more dude w\ relative certainty. So we're down to four, then.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 07 2009,22:37

Reminder : First game is Thursday. Set all your picks.

Sidenote : Had a 12-man league cut down to 10 after 2 pussies backed out. 10-man league, online snake draft, 3 people showed. I got first pick overall (second overall in my other snake draft). But seriously, this is a pay league & seven folk were no shows. What the fuck? There was better participation in one of my free leagues. In another league of mine, there was a fucker calling on the phone from the hospital while his wife was having twins. I shit you not. And that was a fucking auction draft.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2009,04:59

(Malcolm @ Aug. 30 2009,16:27)

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Pick 'em #1 :
Name : Dtman - No Spread
ID : Group ID# 35955
pw : dtmangiggity

Pick 'em #2 :
Name : Dtman - Spread
ID : Group ID# 35961
pw : dtmangiggity

This is Yahoo's NFL pick 'em, by the by.

Left off a 5 from that first group #

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2009,11:22

My picks are in.

Had our draft last night. All 12 guys, plus a few co-owners, were there.

I walked away with:
Aaron Rodgers
Eli Manning
Matt Forte
Ronnie Brown
Marshawn Lynch
Lawrence Maroney
Santonio Holmes
Donald Driver
Justin Gage
Kevin Curtis
Limus Sweed
Antonio Gates
Rob Bironas
San Diego Chargers Defense

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2009,12:00

(TheCatt @ Sep. 08 2009,06:59)

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(Malcolm @ Aug. 30 2009,16:27)

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Pick 'em #1 :
Name : Dtman - No Spread
ID : Group ID# 35955
pw : dtmangiggity

Pick 'em #2 :
Name : Dtman - Spread
ID : Group ID# 35961
pw : dtmangiggity

This is Yahoo's NFL pick 'em, by the by.

Left off a 5 from that first group #

Goddamnit.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2009,12:01

(Leisher @ Sep. 08 2009,13:22)

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Looks a bit shaky at wideout. I'm not riding on the Santanio Holmes bangwagon. Justin Gage might make it interesting, though.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2009,12:08

Yeah, the receivers went quick. Still, I'm not hating this group. I figure Gates might have a record year based on SD's schedule and Rivers' love for him. Gage is Tenn's #1. Driver gets me double points with Rodgers. Holmes is going to get TDs, I'm just not sure how many. Sweed I grabbed for backup and in case he fills in well for Nate Washington.

I figure there are bound to be a couple of receivers that people missed in the draft. I can drop Kevin Curtis and pick one up in a week or two to shore things up.

Still, I love my QBs and RBs.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2009,12:21

Leisher, Troy, Malcolm - still interested in FF? I have a friend whose league needs either 1 or 3 people.

If so, send me an email addy ASAP

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 08 2009,13:03

Sent my addy, but working in the draft will be tough.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2009,13:47

Yeah, we may have to auto-draft, which is fine with me.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2009,14:38

(Leisher @ Sep. 08 2009,14:08)

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Eli's my backup somewhere & Forte's was my 1st pick, so I hope he pays off.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 08 2009,14:40

E-mail address sent. Let me know if I'm in & what's happening w\ the draft thingie. This is going to make life interesting.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 08 2009,16:18

(Malcolm @ Sep. 08 2009,17:40)

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E-mail address sent. Let me know if I'm in & what's happening w\ the draft thingie. This is going to make life interesting.

You're in if Troy's in, cuz then we'll have 12 even.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 09 2009,05:41

I've noticed that we have 11 in that league and the draft can't fire up until we have 10 or 12.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 09 2009,05:55

(Leisher @ Sep. 09 2009,08:41)

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I've noticed that we have 11 in that league and the draft can't fire up until we have 10 or 12.

It's Troy's fault.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 09 2009,17:14

< http://games.espn.go.com/eliminator/en/group?groupID=7549 >
< http://games.espn.go.com/gridiron/en/group?groupID=8759 >
< http://games.espn.go.com/pigskin....=320908 >

pw=coach

i think

if u want to compete with more peeps

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2009,08:43

Picks & lineups, all.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2009,12:04

They really should wait until Sunday.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 10 2009,12:07

Shit, I'm on vacation and just surfaced for email..

I'm in... if I still can be... anyway.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 10 2009,13:25

(TheCatt @ Sep. 10 2009,14:04)

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They really should wait until Sunday.

Game tonight, though.

& if our Yahoo league doesn't draft by tonight's game, any chance we could pull together a live draft prior to Sunday?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2009,15:15

(Malcolm @ Sep. 10 2009,16:25)

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(TheCatt @ Sep. 10 2009,14:04)

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They really should wait until Sunday.

Game tonight, though.

& if our Yahoo league doesn't draft by tonight's game, any chance we could pull together a live draft prior to Sunday?

I know, I meant NFL should wait.

Posted by WSGrundy on Sep. 10 2009,15:20

NFL Players Mentor Troubled Detroit Lions

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 10 2009,18:23

That's awesome.

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# Your auto draft will be completed between now and 11:59 PM PT on Sunday, Sep 13.
# Leagues that complete drafts (live, auto, offline) after 11:59pm PT on Wednesday, September 9 will start scoring in week 2. However, the commissioner can adjust the league setting "Start League scoring in" to Week 1

Damn you, Troy!

Posted by Troy on Sep. 10 2009,20:02

Wait... did I miss it already? Or did you get the email i sent you?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 11 2009,04:57

Yeah, the guy running it filled in a 12th yesterday morning, but since we were after Wednesday, we couldn't have a draft yet.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2009,09:54

Looks like things are live, and players are scoring, so be sure to check your team out - Malcolm - you have no TE/Defense.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2009,10:55

(TheCatt @ Sep. 13 2009,11:54)

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Looks like things are live, and players are scoring, so be sure to check your team out - Malcolm - you have no TE/Defense.

What? The? Fuck?

1) It said we were starting Week 2, so I figured this week was moot anyway.

2) It pushed thru my waivers, despite the fact that I placed them yesterday & it said it'd take 2 days to process. & of course, it knocked a couple of my starters, so I'm D-less this week.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2009,11:02

Jake Delhomme sucks DONKEY. 2 interceptions and a fumble already?

M - Apparently you should have held onto the Eagles' D.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2009,11:26

I'm starting the chant right now ...

ROSENFELS! ROSENFELS!

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 13 2009,13:50

One of y'all in Carolina needs to make sure Jake gets benched. I got fucking 2 points out of Steve Smith.

The other Steve Smith (for NYG) already outscored him.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2009,15:54

I cant believe I let Matt Schaub start in place of Eli.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 13 2009,17:57

I didn't know the Packers picked up Capers until now. I've always been a fan of him as a DC, was sad the Skins never picked him up when they had a chance.

So I'm cheering for their D.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 14 2009,19:49

Jeebus. Buffalo played a solid 58 minutes of football, then wtf?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 14 2009,22:15

Was I still in that league? Who'd I start?

That return man for Buffalo is a massive idiot. He should have simply stood in the end zone and let a few seconds tick off, then knelt down.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 15 2009,05:39

Memories of that collapse against Dallas.

I dont know who you started, but you beat me.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 15 2009,07:15

Well, that's better than my other league. I played a guy who had Drew Brees.

I noticed that on Friday and told him I stood no chance because Brees was facing Detroit.

He threw 6 touchdowns!! Fucking Detroit.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 15 2009,09:27

I was playing Brees & the Eagles D in one league.

Posted by unkbill on Sep. 15 2009,16:00

At least Farve won his first game. 15 more to screw up yet.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2009,09:07

(unkbill @ Sep. 15 2009,18:00)

QUOTE

At least Farve won his first game. 15 more to screw up yet.

Oh yeah, a rockin' 115 yds or so. Didn't win because of him. He was just along for the ride.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 16 2009,11:16

For the record, I love that autodraft put him on your team. Or did you pick him up?

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 16 2009,13:44

(TheCatt @ Sep. 16 2009,13:16)

QUOTE

For the record, I love that autodraft put him on your team. Or did you pick him up?

I almost thought Leish had masterminded some conspiracy to force him on my team. But yeah, fucking autodraft.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2009,11:30

Remember when the Vikings had a fucking offense? Do they even show up the first half anymore?

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2009,12:07

Better late than < 3 FGs from 11 yards or less. >

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 20 2009,17:23

The Ravens D ain't what it used to be.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 20 2009,18:37

I keep picking the wrong QB.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 21 2009,05:10

(TheCatt @ Sep. 20 2009,20:37)

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I keep picking the wrong QB.

I pick my QBs relatively alright. My WRs are another story.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2009,05:19

For some reason I thought Washington would be able to show some O against St. Louis.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 21 2009,06:31

Terrible weekend for football.

The Buckeyes dropped two spots despite winning. (Voters did this because USC lost to an unranked team and wanted to punish them, but couldn't put them behind the Buckeyes, whom USC beat last week. Which is further proof that voters don't want games or they would have seen that OSU dominated USC and it was only poor coaching that allowed USC to win. USC had a single drive in the second half, and that drive was the winning score. Other than that, they coudln't get beyond their own 20.)

The Steelers gave Chicago a gift victory. (Ben threw a pick on the goal line and Jeff Reed missed a chip shot with about 2 minutes left.)

And my fantasy team (in my league that's for money) hasn't even been competitive for two weeks straight.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 21 2009,07:25

Went to the Panthers/Falcons game.

In GA, wearing panthers gear, expecting at least a little trash talk.

Mostly, everyone was nice, though a "from-the-streets" type lady told me to "Go back to England"

Which is like, the most confusing smack talk i've ever heard in my life. I think she thought she was a Native American, or something.

It was pretty fun, even though we lost.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2009,11:52

(Leisher @ Sep. 21 2009,09:31)

QUOTE

The Buckeyes dropped two spots despite winning. (Voters did this because USC lost to an unranked team and wanted to punish them, but couldn't put them behind the Buckeyes, whom USC beat last week. Which is further proof that voters don't want games or they would have seen that OSU dominated USC and it was only poor coaching that allowed USC to win. USC had a single drive in the second half, and that drive was the winning score. Other than that, they coudln't get beyond their own 20.)

Sat, Sep 5 Navy W 31-27

Eh, it's early. I wouldn't worry about rankings until November, they just don't matter.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 21 2009,12:28

Yeah, the Navy game was another one that Tressel almost fucked up.

We were up 17-7 with a few minutes left in the first half and he put our backups in like the game was over and out of reach!

Later, we were up by two scores in the middle of the 4th and on 4th and 2 from the Navy 15, he went for it instead instead of kicking the field goal, which would have put them up by 3 scores.

Tressel might be the classiest guy in all of Division 1 football, but that doesn't mean it's always a positive. He needs a killer instinct. He has never had it, which is why OSU has rarely covered the spread since he's arrived. He's way too conservative and won't run up the score on anyone.

The folks in Columbus have been calling for him to be fired for 2-3 years now. There is a strong push for him to hire an offensive coordinator, but thus far he has refused. I think if we see the offense struggle some more during the season or see games put into doubt due to conservative play calling plus a loss to Michigan, I think you'll see the school force him to hire someone.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 21 2009,13:07

Yeah, another year under Rodriguez might light a flame under Tressel if R does at Michigan what he did at WV.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 23 2009,20:19

Alright, we got a weekly survivor football pick thing at the office. One pick per week. Only get to use each team once, at most. All weeks are elimination. Last man standing wins.

Already used : Minnesota, New Orleans

Thinking ...
pick Steelers v. Bengals (likely)
pick Ravens v. Browns (likely)
pick Chicago v. Seattle (eh, maybe, seems like a safe bet & how often is Chicago even relatively safe?)

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 24 2009,05:38

Do not pick the Steelers over the Bengals. Sure, Ben is currently undefeated in Ohio since joining the NFL, but this game doesn't bode well.

Troy is out, his backup is gimpy, Woodley is still gimpy, the D is getting no pressure on opposing QBs right now, Holmes is hurt, and the Bengals are really playing well.

The Steelers have some easy games coming up including Detroit, KC, Cleveland twice, Oakland, etc. Save your pick for one of those games as it'll be a layup.

The Ravens over the Browns is a slam dunk, but here's the thing, you can only use a team once. The Ravens play the same teams I just listed for Pittsburgh...

Save that pick.

Chicago over the Seahawks is the way I'd go. Sure, they won't be as sure a thing as Baltimore over the Browns, but with Hasselbeck out, it's pretty close to a sure thing.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 24 2009,10:28

Don't forget to get your picks in.

My "With spread" picks last week were a dumpster fire, so I took some risks this week to hopefully catch up.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 24 2009,11:38

(Malcolm @ Sep. 23 2009,23:19)

QUOTE

I would take the Ravens.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 24 2009,12:38

< LA is going to get an NFL team soon. >

Prediction #1: The Jaguars leave Jacksonville and move to LA.

Prediction #2: They will join the AFC West.

Prediction #3: Kansas City will move to the AFC South.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2009,13:43

(TheCatt @ Sep. 24 2009,13:38)

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(Malcolm @ Sep. 23 2009,23:19)

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I would take the Ravens.

Definitely waiting on Hasselbeck's status. If Seneca Wallace is in, I'll try Matt Forte's retarded younger brother over the Seahawks.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 24 2009,13:56

You picked New Orleans as an easy win over Philly?

Really?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 24 2009,14:01

hehe, that got my attention too Troy.

But without McNabb I suppose it could be considered easy. Who knew Kolb would play so good.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2009,14:42

(Troy @ Sep. 24 2009,15:56)

QUOTE

You picked New Orleans as an easy win over Philly?

Really?

If you're paying attention to order, I picked the Saints in the first week & the Vikings second.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 24 2009,16:48

(Troy @ Aug. 14 2009,00:28)

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He'll probably play.. I mean.. McNabb is always 50/50 to try some lumbering charge with his knee right into a DB helmet.

Boom.

I heard Vick is suiting up this week.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 25 2009,07:30

QUOTE

Already used : Minnesota, New Orleans

Because you listed them like that, both Troy and I thought you used Minny, THEN NO.

QUOTE

I heard Vick is suiting up this week.

Yes, but they've said he will not play QB, and honestly, why would he? Kevin Kolb threw for 400 yards last week.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2009,09:49

(Leisher @ Sep. 25 2009,09:30)

QUOTE

Already used : Minnesota, New Orleans

Because you listed them like that, both Troy and I thought you used Minny, THEN NO.

QUOTE

I heard Vick is suiting up this week.

Yes, but they've said he will not play QB, and honestly, why would he? Kevin Kolb threw for 400 yards last week.

Kolb's still a backup & he isn't going to have the less than stellar secondary of New Orleans, the same team that let Detroit hit them for 20-something points.

& it's the NFL, any QB is one solid hit away from a season-ending injury.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2009,11:10

Hasselbeck situation is uncertain. Going for the Cowboys over the Panthers on Monday.

See you in the league this week, Leish.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 25 2009,12:26

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2009,11:10)

QUOTE

Hasselbeck situation is uncertain. Going for the Cowboys over the Panthers on Monday.

See you in the league this week, Leish.

The Panther fan in me is hoping you go down in flames.

The realist in me... is another story.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2009,14:45

(Troy @ Sep. 25 2009,14:26)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2009,11:10)

QUOTE

Hasselbeck situation is uncertain. Going for the Cowboys over the Panthers on Monday.

See you in the league this week, Leish.

The Panther fan in me is hoping you go down in flames.

The realist in me... is another story.

Someone down there needs to convince John Fox to fucking bench Delhomme. He's below atrocious.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2009,10:27

Picks.

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 26 2009,20:32

QUOTE

Someone down there needs to convince John Fox to fucking bench Delhomme.

Don't you mean Bill Cowher? Oh wait...that's next year.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 27 2009,11:47

(Leisher @ Sep. 26 2009,23:32)

QUOTE

Someone down there needs to convince John Fox to fucking bench Delhomme.

Don't you mean Bill Cowher? Oh wait...that's next year.

Please please please let Dan buy him instead of the Panthers.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2009,11:56

Someday the Vikings are going to play a real team & this sandbagging shit thru the first two quarters is going to cost them.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 27 2009,13:21

(Malcolm @ Sep. 27 2009,14:56)

QUOTE

Someday the Vikings are going to play a real team & this sandbagging shit thru the first two quarters is going to cost them.

Ugh.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2009,13:29

(TheCatt @ Sep. 27 2009,15:21)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Sep. 27 2009,14:56)

QUOTE

Someday the Vikings are going to play a real team & this sandbagging shit thru the first two quarters is going to cost them.

Ugh.

That was an ugly, ugly, ugly win, especially when you consider their star RB left the field on the starting play. First time a Vikes QB threw for over 300 yards since the heyday o' Culpepper.

Ah well, better an ugly win than losing to the Lions.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 27 2009,14:44

I don't know why I have season tickets any more. I really don't.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2009,16:11

And Pittsburgh goes down in flames to the Bengals. Wtf? Kind of glad I didn't pick them for survivor.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 27 2009,16:52

Entertaining game though.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 27 2009,16:53

(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2009,14:10)

QUOTE

Hasselbeck situation is uncertain. Going for the Cowboys over the Panthers on Monday.

See you in the league this week, Leish.

Told you to pick Baltimore.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 27 2009,17:29

The Ravens are good bets against anyone.

I need to write an app that takes in the NFL schedule & gives me the win % for this week per team vs. general shittiness of the remaining games.

EDIT : There's only one dude who got out this week & he picked the Steelers. No one touched the ARI vs. IND game, & it's just me & one other dude waiting on the results of Monday night. Eventually, Carolina is going to remember they have a real team. Probably shortly after they get a replacement QB. Minnesota would probably trade Rosenfels or T-Jack.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 28 2009,18:50

Hey Jake, thanks for remembering you have a good fucking offensive, if you don't fuck it up. (in the last 2 minutes of the second half)

Posted by Troy on Sep. 28 2009,18:57

Edit: First Half.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2009,19:12

If the Cowboys could stop taking stupid penalties & throw to someone other than Witten (can't believe I'm saying that), they might make progress. Fuck, I never thought I'd be missing Marion Barber's blocking.

Posted by Troy on Sep. 28 2009,19:56

Good to see us playing like shit again...

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 28 2009,20:21

Say goodnight, Gracie. So, how 'bout that A.J. Feeley?

Posted by Leisher on Sep. 29 2009,07:24

QUOTE

And Pittsburgh goes down in flames to the Bengals. Wtf? Kind of glad I didn't pick them for survivor.

2 weeks in a row where Pittsburgh has dominated a team, yet lost on the final drive.

They've punted 3 times in 2 games and lost both games. "WTF" indeed.

I'd like to say I've never seen anything like it, but I'm a Buckeyes fan too, so I've seen it a lot. (Example: USC this year)

Still, before the season I said if the Steelers go 2-2 in the first four games, they'll be fine. They need to beat the Chargers in Pittsburgh on Sunday night to get there.

Who win between you and me Malcolm? I haven't been on that site yet.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 29 2009,09:22

As a Redskins and Panthers fan... I guess my season is over already.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2009,10:20

(Leisher @ Sep. 29 2009,09:24)

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Who win between you and me Malcolm? I haven't been on that site yet.

I got you by ten points. Didn't help that you had a gimped Welker starting this week.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 29 2009,20:30

< $20 says Penny's gone, period >.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2009,07:11

I hate bye weeks. No reason to make the season so long.

That, and 3 of my players are on bye this week. And all 3 of my RBs are injured. Probable, Questionable, and Doubtful.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2009,09:50

(TheCatt @ Oct. 04 2009,09:11)

QUOTE

I hate bye weeks. No reason to make the season so long.

That, and 3 of my players are on bye this week. And all 3 of my RBs are injured. Probable, Questionable, and Doubtful.

Ours is the only league where my players have stayed rather healthy.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2009,10:19

Wow, the Redskins make Tampa look good.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2009,11:43

(TheCatt @ Oct. 04 2009,12:19)

QUOTE

Wow, the Redskins make Tampa look good.

Jason Campbell's doing a good job. Nothing like two picks, a fumble, & under 75 yards passing. Brings me back to the days of T-Jack.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2009,15:31

How long till St. Louis picks up a win? Shit, even Detroit doesn't've Kyle Boller.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 04 2009,15:52

(Malcolm @ Oct. 04 2009,18:31)

QUOTE

How long till St. Louis picks up a win? Shit, even Detroit doesn't've Kyle Boller.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHA

Eagles are on bye, so I picked up SF's defense cuz they were playing STL.

They're leading my team with 38 points.

And again, I picked the wrong QB to start. 15 for Schaub, 30 for Eli.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 04 2009,19:04

The Panthers didn't lose this weekend!

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 04 2009,19:21

(Malcolm @ Oct. 04 2009,18:31)

QUOTE

How long till St. Louis picks up a win? Shit, even Detroit doesn't've Kyle Boller.

At Detroit November 1st? Or maybe at home against Seattle on November 29th?

They have a good chance of going 0-16. So does Tampa Bay and Cleveland.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 04 2009,21:38

(Leisher @ Oct. 04 2009,21:21)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 04 2009,18:31)

QUOTE

How long till St. Louis picks up a win? Shit, even Detroit doesn't've Kyle Boller.

At Detroit November 1st? Or maybe at home against Seattle on November 29th?

They have a good chance of going 0-16. So does Tampa Bay and Cleveland.

Tampa will eventually pick up a win. Antonio Bryant, Caddy Williams, & whatever scrub they've got at QB will all light up the same weekend at their D, some day.

St. Louis doesn't even have an offense worth mentioning. Steven Jackson?

They already lost to Seattle. Calvin Johnson & Kevin Smith also look like they'd rip St. Louis a new asshole. Yeah, it's the Lions, but they still rang New Orleans for almost 30 points. St. Louis wishes it had that D.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 05 2009,10:25

What team will play worse? Panthers or Skins?

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 05 2009,10:51

I'd have to go with the Skins.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 05 2009,11:22

(Troy @ Oct. 05 2009,13:25)

QUOTE

What team will play worse? Panthers or Skins?

That's tough. The Redskins' offense is abysmal. Their D, were they not so hampered by their O (time of possession, field position,etc), would be pretty good. The Panthers' O is bad. Their D is mediocre.

Were I a betting man, I'd go with the Panthers to win, by 1 to 7 points.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2009,11:46

I'm going to say that Steve Smith, DeAngelo, & Jake overcome the Redskin defense before Campbell, Portis, & Moss find a way to get on the same page & score points.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 05 2009,12:04

And now that everyone has cast their vote, I'm going with Panthers.

Because it's just one of those seasons where we are going lose the games we are supposed to win, by a lot.

It shall not stop my fanboism, but it still makes me a sad panda.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 05 2009,12:11

(Troy @ Oct. 05 2009,14:04)

QUOTE

Can't you start some internet campaign to get a real QB or something? I'll make the offer again, I'll put Rosenfels on the bargaining table.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 05 2009,19:05

Jeeeeeez.

Farve looks amazing in the first half.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2009,12:04

Why the fuck couldn't they do that against Detroit, Frisco, or the fucking Browns?

That's the first game where they've actually put in a full sixty minutes of playing.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 06 2009,12:57

(Malcolm @ Oct. 06 2009,15:04)

QUOTE

Why the fuck couldn't they do that against Detroit, Frisco, or the fucking Browns?

That's the first game where they've actually put in a full sixty minutes of playing.

Admittedly, this was the first game they needed 60 full minutes.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2009,13:02

(TheCatt @ Oct. 06 2009,14:57)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 06 2009,15:04)

QUOTE

Why the fuck couldn't they do that against Detroit, Frisco, or the fucking Browns?

That's the first game where they've actually put in a full sixty minutes of playing.

Admittedly, this was the first game they needed 60 full minutes.

Pass D wasn't exactly sparkling. 384 yds, >= 5 of which were 20+. Rush D killed, though.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2009,13:20

< Rams up for sale ... maybe to Rush, yeah that Rush >.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 06 2009,20:51

On a completely unrelated note, go fucking Minnesota Twins.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 08 2009,20:41

Don't forget your picks.

Are you kidding me with these spreads this week? Is this the NFL or the NCAA?

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 09 2009,20:24

< I didn't think it was good either. >

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 10 2009,06:07

Well, I managed to freeze-frame it on the part where it passed the goal posts, and it was suddenly invisible.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2009,14:07

And a stunning victory for Carolina ... over the Redskins. Ouch.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 11 2009,15:24

(Malcolm @ Oct. 11 2009,17:07)

QUOTE

And a stunning victory for Carolina ... over the Redskins. Ouch.

I don't understand how the kicking team pushing a player into the punt returned (who had called for a fair catch) isn't a penalty.

Otherwise, wouldn't players just try to use that tactic all the time?

Posted by Troy on Oct. 11 2009,16:50

(TheCatt @ Oct. 11 2009,15:24)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 11 2009,17:07)

QUOTE

And a stunning victory for Carolina ... over the Redskins. Ouch.

It definitely should have been.

But you can't review it and change that, I guess.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 11 2009,21:51

&, damn, this slipped me by but Baltimore lost to Cincy. Fucking Ochocinco's going to get his ego back real soon.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 11 2009,22:29

(TheCatt @ Oct. 11 2009,15:24)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 11 2009,17:07)

QUOTE

And a stunning victory for Carolina ... over the Redskins. Ouch.

Ok, according to the ref and rulebook.

You can't just "push" a player in, because normally after hearing fair catch, the receiving team is supposed to stop blocking and "engaging" the kicking team. Then what happened would have been illegal.

If the blockers don't hear the returner signal the fair catch, and keep fighting/engaging the kicking team, all bets are off, and what he did is legal.

Sounds kind of BSey, but it's in the rulebook.

Posted by unkbill on Oct. 12 2009,04:54

Same thing happened last night in the Indi game.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 12 2009,07:57

Cleveland's QB completed 2 passes in the game. 2 passes!!! And they won!!!

How bad is Buffalo?!?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 12 2009,08:46

(Leisher @ Oct. 12 2009,09:57)

QUOTE

How bad is Buffalo?!?

Trent Edwards bad.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 13 2009,13:24

< CurrentNFL owners close ranks on potential new owner. >.

Posted by unkbill on Oct. 13 2009,13:57

I heard half the team was going to asked to be traded if he became owner.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 18 2009,15:09

It's a weekend of GREAT quarterback play.

Unless of course, you are a Panthers fan. Then its a weekend of run plays.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2009,15:31

Why the fuck is Brady still in? I hope he gets fucking knocked out for the season again. There's no earthly reason why he wasn't pulled after the first half.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 18 2009,15:37

(Malcolm @ Oct. 18 2009,15:31)

QUOTE

Why the fuck is Brady still in? I hope he gets fucking knocked out for the season again. There's no earthly reason why he wasn't pulled after the first half.

They switched my game after the First Half.

45-0.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 18 2009,16:14

(Troy @ Oct. 18 2009,17:37)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Oct. 18 2009,15:31)

QUOTE

Why the fuck is Brady still in? I hope he gets fucking knocked out for the season again. There's no earthly reason why he wasn't pulled after the first half.

They switched my game after the First Half.

45-0.

Yeah. Everyone on DirectTV got the game cut.

Also, remember when Philly had a running game? Or a WR to throw to?

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2009,08:02

< Zorn gives up playcalling duties >. Ouch.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 19 2009,08:37

I was at the game, I'm pretty sure he gave up on play-calling a long time ago.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2009,09:54

(TheCatt @ Oct. 19 2009,10:37)

QUOTE

I was at the game, I'm pretty sure he gave up on play-calling a long time ago.

Maybe he & Spurrier can start a support group.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 19 2009,12:13

This weekend did nothing to improve my understanding of who's legit and who isn't.

How did Philly lose to Oakland?

I guess the top teams in the NFC are The Saints and the Vikings. The Saints were exposed a bit by the Jets though as their defense did all the scoring there. The offense only scored 10. As for the Vikings, they've been really lucky twice now.

Who comes after them?

Arizona? San Francisco? They're in the NFC West, and Arizona has to prove last year wasn't a fluke.

The Giants, Eagles, or Cowboys? The Giants will be in the playoffs. The Eagles are a mystery and it will get worse with Vick chants. The Cowboys suck.

Atlanta? This team is good, but how good? They should be in the playoffs.

Chicago and Green Bay? Chicago got lucky against Pittsburgh who missed two field goals and had their Super Bowl MVP drop a wide open touchdown to allow them to drive for the winning score. Green Bay has no offensive line.

I guess the top teams in the AFC are Indy and Denver. Indy hasn't played anyone, and let's be honest, they should rename themselves the Indianapolis Mannings. I still don't buy Denver. That's still Kyle Orton throwing the ball.

Houston? Houston can apparently still win games, but I don't buy them as legit.

The AFC East? I think the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins are too erratic. The Patriots are too old and have too many holes now. People can go on and on about 59-0, but the true story is that the Titans have quit. NE didn't score 59 on a focused contender, they scored 59 on a team that doesn't care anymore. A team that has no pride. A team that hasn't won a game since stomping on the terrible towel.

San Diego? Speaking of erratic...If they won tonight by 20 or lost by 20, would anyone be surprised either way?

Pittsburgh, Baltimore, or Cincinnati? I don't buy Cincinnati. Unlucky loss to Denver, yes. However they got lucky against the Steelers, and just lost to Houston at home, while losing their leading pass rusher. Baltimore is a little long in the tooth on defense, and their secondary is 26th in the league. Pittsburgh's D has taken a step back this year, particularly in the 4th quarter.

So yeah, I have no idea right now who will be playing in February.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 19 2009,13:23

I guess parity really is back.

The NFC is pretty clearly led by the Saints, the Vikings, and the Giants... probably in that order, but any given day, they could all beat each other.

The Eagles beat: Panthers, Chiefs, and Tampa. All those teams suck ass, we now know. They're 8-8 at best.

Cowboys, Atlanta, and Arizona will round out the playoffs.

AFC: New England and Indy. Denver will be up there, but mostly cuz their division sucks.
Pittsburgh will win the north.

No idea who the wild card teams would be. I'm going to pencil in Cincy and.... (throws dart) Houston.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2009,16:45

AFC East : Pats & Jets might duking it out. NE isn't the same domination team from a couple years back. They're mortal. The Jets greatly depend on what Sanchez does. Which is why I'm not optimistic about them.

AFC North : I'm calling Steelers here. Their D is good enough & their offense is still the loaded w\ a decent QB & enough quality WRs. The only threat comes if Flacco, Ray Rice, & company start seriously kicking ass.

AFC South : Colts. Game over.

AFC West : The Broncos ... maybe. It's still Kyle Orton & it's still RB by half-assed committee, so nothing's locked up. The Chargers would need to pull their heads out of their asses ... getting a running game would be a nice start.

NFC East : Giants look to win this rather pussy division. Their receiving corp isn't as good as the stats they've put up. I'll retract that statement if Mario Manningham & the other Steve Smith finish in the top 20 WRs in the NFL by the end of the season.

NFC North : Vikings. Game over. They really, really need to start showing up for the entire game, though. Playing 2 or 3 quarters out of 4 ain't gonna work forever. All bets are off if AP gets injured.

NFC South : New Orleans. They're sickeningly overpowered offense has been making up for their lackluster D. Anyone that lets the Lions rack up 20+ points is in trouble. If they had Denver's D, they'd be fucking gangbusters. Atlanta might present a threat, but they need to improve both offense & D before I'll give them a shot. They've played two real teams (NE & Chicago) & they're 1-1.

NFC West : The Cardinals? I can't get behind the 49ers because Shaun Hill's the QB, & I'm not sold on the l33tness of Crabtree. Seattle's looking like they're starting to get serious, but they've got jack & shit on their RB committee.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 19 2009,20:56

Damn, the no spread pick 'em now has a 3-way tie for first.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 24 2009,09:44

(Leisher @ Sep. 21 2009,15:28)

QUOTE

*OSU talk*

At least the refs still love you. I turned on to see the last two plays of the 1st Quarter. 1 blown pass interference, 1 bad call on punt interference.

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 24 2009,09:47

(TheCatt @ Oct. 24 2009,12:44)

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(Leisher @ Sep. 21 2009,15:28)

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*OSU talk*

At least the refs still love you. I turned on to see the last two plays of the 1st Quarter. 1 blown pass interference, 1 bad call on punt interference.

3 bad calls.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 24 2009,16:09

(TheCatt @ Oct. 24 2009,12:44)

QUOTE

(Leisher @ Sep. 21 2009,15:28)

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*OSU talk*

At least the refs still love you. I turned on to see the last two plays of the 1st Quarter. 1 blown pass interference, 1 bad call on punt interference.

You must have missed last week when the Buckeyes were penalized 11+ times, while Purdue was penalized for the first time with 5 minutes left in the 4th.

No, they don't love us. In fact, I can prove that the head referee (Dick Honing) for the crew that always got the biggest games in the Big Ten (including OSU/Michigan every year), was not only a Michigan fan, not only lived IN Ann Arbor, but was also incredibly prejudiced against the state of Ohio.

So no, the refs are not in love with OSU.

The Steelers on the other hand...did you see that first down against Cleveland?

P.S. Why are you trying to pick out bad calls in a 38-7 blow out?

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 24 2009,16:18

It was just that I watched all of 5 minutes of that game, the last minute of the 1st quarter, and the first minute of the 2nd, and saw 2 bad, 1 questionable calls in about 5 plays. Clearly not a large sample, but was just weird.

Just thought you'd have a comment on it being an OSU fan.

I can't believe ND is almost ranked. They barely beat 4 mediocre teams, lose to a mediocre team, and people still love them, just for being ND.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 24 2009,23:22

Truth be told, I didn't watch a second of the game today. I listened to bits of it here and there, but I was busy helping my in-laws move.

As for Notre Dame, I have no idea why they're ranked other than what you said. They suck and are barely squeaking through a soft schedule.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2009,10:46

(Leisher @ Oct. 25 2009,01:22)

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As for Notre Dame, I have no idea why they're ranked other than what you said.

Tradition. If they were called "crappy Indiana State College X" no one would care.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2009,10:52

Damn. Looking at the Vikes' schedule, the Steelers are the last real team we play this year. Out of two real teams.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2009,13:14

Interesting game.

I say the Vikes got screwed on two penalties. Dugan didn't trip anyone. & DEFENSIVE delay of game? Wtf? My ass.

The red zone chokes at the end of the game were inexcusable. One was Favre's damned fault completely. The other, I'm willing to share the blame w\ Taylor. The thought occurs, though : why in the FUCK don't you have AP out there? He fumbles a shitload, but he's the #1 rusher, use him.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2009,13:16

By the by, I need McNabb to be really good this week. C'mon, Redskins...

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 25 2009,13:30

I had to follow the first 3 quarters and most of the 4th on my cell phone.

QUOTE

Damn. Looking at the Vikes' schedule, the Steelers are the last real team we play this year. Out of two real teams.

I think it comes down to NO and Minnesota for home field advantage in the NFC.

QUOTE

I say the Vikes got screwed on two penalties. Dugan didn't trip anyone. & DEFENSIVE delay of game? Wtf? My ass.

The trip was a bad call. I think the guy who threw it saw the play from an angle that made him believe the Steeler was tripped. I think the blocker actually got him with his arm.

The defensive delay of game call was less important. I've seen it called before, but I still don't know why it gets called. Still on 3rd and 5, it was 50/50 anyway and it resulted in no points.

QUOTE

The red zone chokes at the end of the game were inexcusable. One was Favre's damned fault completely. The other, I'm willing to share the blame w\ Taylor. The thought occurs, though : why in the FUCK don't you have AP out there? He fumbles a shitload, but he's the #1 rusher, use him.

I don't blame Favre for either (although, I didn't actually see it). You have AP. Why are you throwing on 2 out of 3 downs from the one yard line? Stupid play calling.

Chester Taylor is out of the University of Toledo.

Fucking Mendenhall tried his best to fumble the game away.

Still, if both teams play the rest of the season like the did today, neither will be in the Super Bowl.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2009,14:18

(Leisher @ Oct. 25 2009,15:30)

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Stupid play calling.

We've got a saying around here that Brad Childress runs a prevent offense. We've done well IN SPITE of his idiocy. An absolute fuckwit of a hack of a loon who should've been cashiered a season ago.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2009,14:20

(Leisher @ Oct. 25 2009,15:30)

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I don't blame Favre for either (although, I didn't actually see it).

First one, he just took way, way, way too fucking long to throw the ball. Got slapped out of his hand as he pumped for the third time or so. Second one was a two- or three-yard dink pass to Taylor, while Taylor was facing him w\ little to no traffic. The toss was a tad high, but nothing a semi-competent receiver couldn't handle.

& Jeff Reed tackles like a pussy.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2009,14:22

In other news :

(i) Remember when Chicago had a team? Kyle Orton's taint must still be lingering in the air.

(ii) What in the name of Katrina's titty is happening in Miami? 24 - 3. Fucking ouch. Survivor pool might shrink a lot this week.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 25 2009,21:32

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We've got a saying around here that Brad Childress runs a prevent offense.

That's funny.

In related news, my AT&T rep's boss looks just like him and he's an incompetent boob.

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& Jeff Reed tackles like a pussy.

Yes he does. Our punter is a different story.

QUOTE

(i) Remember when Chicago had a team? Kyle Orton's taint must still be lingering in the air.

I have a friend in my poker league whose a big Chicago fan, and he argued with me that the Steelers didn't hand Chicago the game in week 2, but Chicago is just that good. Monday night I'll be asking him if we can now stop pretending that Chicago is any good. They won't even make the playoffs.

QUOTE

(ii) What in the name of Katrina's titty is happening in Miami? 24 - 3. Fucking ouch. Survivor pool might shrink a lot this week.

I was stunned by that too. Of course, we both spoke too soon.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 25 2009,23:09

(Leisher @ Oct. 25 2009,23:32)

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(ii) What in the name of Katrina's titty is happening in Miami? 24 - 3. Fucking ouch. Survivor pool might shrink a lot this week.

I was stunned by that too. Of course, we both spoke too soon.

I think Ricky Williams starting celebrating at halftime in the locker room & passed around a few blunts. They demonstrated zero defensive consistency in the second half. Fucking hell. So much for the survivor pool shrinking.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 27 2009,21:29

< Vegas is getting destroyed. >

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2009,21:33

(Leisher @ Oct. 27 2009,23:29)

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< Vegas is getting destroyed. >

My heart positively bleeds. This is karma coming to your town for starting the trend of making counting cards a bootable offense. Fuck you, you fucking fuckwits.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 27 2009,21:47

Alrighty, survivor pool time again ...

There's ten folk left, one of which is me. This week has me w\ a couple thoughts, but first, the preconditions.

Used : New Orleans, Minnesota, Dallas, N.Y Giants, Philadelphia, Green Bay, San Diego

Games this week for teams I've not used (unused in bold)...

Houston* at Buffalo
Cleveland at Chicago
Seattle at Dallas
St. Louis at Detroit**
San Francisco at Indianapolis*
Miami at NY Jets
Denver at Baltimore
Oakland at San Diego
Jacksonville at Tennessee
Carolina at Arizona*
Atlanta at New Orleans

* = decent bets
** = just for the sheer fuck of it -- c'mon, they're playing the Rams, for Christ's sake

Houston, Chicago, Indy, Rams/Lions, Arizona, Jacksonville look to be the only semi-clear calls. Chicago looks beyond bad right now. If someone forced me to pick between the Rams & Lions, I'd have to go Lions (but seriously, when will they have a better chance of winning this season). The Rams look that shitty. Jacksonville's shaky. I still want to save Indy for later on. There's still ten of us in this thing.

Arizona looks to be a reasonably safe bet. Houston looks slightly less safe (but relatively good chances nonetheless). Indy's a slam dunk unless Alex Smith plays for four quarters like he did for two quarters this past week, only this time against a better D.

There's still something in me that wants to say the Lions are more together of a team than the Rams. & the winning strategy is picking generally shitty teams that have a favourable matchup. Maximizing the minimums.

Thoughts?

Posted by TheCatt on Oct. 28 2009,08:07

Pretty much agreed, Houston/Indy/SD/Arizona/NO look safe.

Detroit for the pick that isn't safe, but will win.

Posted by Troy on Oct. 28 2009,08:18

There is always the chance that Matt Moore starts over Jake. That's the only reason you have to worry about the Arizona game being worrisome.

With Jake, easy call.

Posted by Leisher on Oct. 28 2009,10:41

Houston could get shaky depending on the weather.

I don't see how Chicago doesn't take out last week's ass kicking on Cleveland.

San Diego barely beat Oakland the first time. Wait and see if that was a fluke or if Tom Cable has Norv Turner's number.

New Orleans should be a safe bet, but Atlanta isn't a lower tier team.

Indy is a lock.

I agree with Troy on the Arizona game, but I think they win.

And I agree with Catt on the Lions game. Dante is a serviceable enough QB that they might put the boots to the Rams.

Posted by Malcolm on Oct. 28 2009,13:37

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I don't see how Chicago doesn't take out last week's ass kicking on Cleveland.

Good teams bounce back. Shitty teams sink lower. I'm not sure whether the Bears are good or shitty right now, but I'm leaning towards shitty. Cutler has run that offense into the fucking ground. They aren't & shouldn't be a passing team.

QUOTE

And I agree with Catt on the Lions game. Dante is a serviceable enough QB that they might put the boots to the Rams.

The only hesitation that I've got about Rams/Lions is that Steven Jackson could simply snowplow thru the Detroit D & then Bulger might rise to the level of below average if they back off rushing the dismal St. Louis O-line. I've somewhat confident that Kevin Smith & Stafford/Culpepper can take them down, even minus Megatron.

QUOTE

I agree with Troy on the Arizona game, but I think they win.

This is looking like the bandwagon I'll jump on.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 01 2009,11:59

Buf beating Hou
Det beating STL
SF beating Ind
Phil crushing NYG

wtf?

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2009,13:19

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Buf beating Hou

Temporarily. Houston got right pretty quick after that.

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Det beating STL

Looks like Steven Jackson made the difference. He's a gamebreaking RB. Kevin Smith is still just "good enough." He happens to be 75% of Detroit's plays w\ Megatron gone.

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SF beating Ind

Shitloads closer than I thought. San Fran's D stepped up & Alex Smith didn't look that bad. Not Shaun Hill bad, at least.

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Phil crushing NYG

Philly traditionally kills the Giants. The confidence of NYG is more volatile than that of most teenage girls. Eli & Co. are always just one or two bad plays away from losing their rhythm/momentum/mojo/whatever.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2009,13:21

(Malcolm @ Oct. 28 2009,15:37)

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I don't see how Chicago doesn't take out last week's ass kicking on Cleveland.

It's still just the Browns. Next week's game w\ Arizona should be more interesting.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 01 2009,13:52

Well, I was wrong about Detroit - I really thought they'd pick up #2.

I was also wrong about picking up AZ's defense to start instead of the Eagles' D.

Argh.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2009,13:52

Goddamn Arizona. Stop sucking.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2009,14:30

FUCK. Should've gone Houston.

Posted by unkbill on Nov. 01 2009,15:15

(TheCatt @ Nov. 01 2009,13:52)

QUOTE

Well, I was wrong about Detroit - I really thought they'd pick up #2.

I was also wrong about picking up AZ's defense to start instead of the Eagles' D.

Argh.

Det took 10 out of 11 out of our football pool. Thank goodness for Den. Took the last one out.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 01 2009,16:54

We just fucked over a lot of fantasy teams and pick em leagues today.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 01 2009,17:10

Yeah, not only did I pick up AZ for def, I benched Steve Smith.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2009,18:25

(TheCatt @ Nov. 01 2009,19:10)

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Yeah, not only did I pick up AZ for def, I benched Steve Smith.

I picked up the ARI D somewhere, but I still played Smith in a league or two just because I was that screwed at WR.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 01 2009,21:08

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Thank goodness for Den. Took the last one out.

Wait.

Are you saying someone was confident enough to pick Denver over Baltimore in Baltimore in a survival league?

That's insane. How did they even make it to week 8?

Hey Malcolm, still hate Brett? If the Steelers get knocked out, I'll be on the Minnesota bandwagon for the rest of the playoffs/season. Not only to root for Brett to go out a winner, and watch heads roll in Green Bay, but also so I can hear your head explode if he wins Minnesota a super bowl.

I'm hearing rumors that Mangini will be fired this week... That team is a dumpster fire.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 01 2009,22:28

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Are you saying someone was confident enough to pick Denver over Baltimore in Baltimore in a survival league?

That's insane. How did they even make it to week 8?

That's beyond ballsy.

QUOTE

I'm hearing rumors that Mangini will be fired this week... That team is a dumpster fire.

Lots of teams like that this year.

QUOTE

Hey Malcolm, still hate Brett?

Oh, yes. Even a bit more now -- he's making Childress look good, which means he'll stay.

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...if he wins Minnesota a super bowl.

Big-ass if. So far, the Vikes have been playing at the level of X + 1, X being however competent their opponent is. The Steelers 1-up'd them at the end. Even today, that game was WAY closer than it should've been. & it's the fucking Packers. They're running Moats & motherfucking Ahman Green. That's maybe 75% of one quality RB in those two.

Point being there's a section of damn near every game that Minnesota just plain slacks off. & they get torched. If you can get that to happen in the last part of the game, you've got a good shot at beating them. Baltimore missed because their kicker crumbled in the clutch. Pittsburgh D came back after a red-zone fumble.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 02 2009,07:14

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Oh, yes. Even a bit more now -- he's making Childress look good, which means he'll stay.

On ESPN last night they said he was likely to get a contract extension during the bye week. Ouch.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2009,08:16

(Leisher @ Nov. 02 2009,09:14)

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Oh, yes. Even a bit more now -- he's making Childress look good, which means he'll stay.

On ESPN last night they said he was likely to get a contract extension during the bye week. Ouch.

What bullshit. If Mike Tice were still around, I bet he'd be getting it.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2009,08:41

Look at the bright side, you don't have Jim Zorn around.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 02 2009,08:51

Tonights MNF should be a good game.

I think we pull for the Saints to win, to send the Falcons further back. It's our turn to play the Saints next week.

Which sucks, because it means that we have to throw the ball to win, which usually means, we won't.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2009,09:26

(TheCatt @ Nov. 02 2009,10:41)

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Look at the bright side, you don't have Jim Zorn around.

If Jim Zorn had the Viking offense, he'd still be calling plays.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2009,09:42

(Malcolm @ Nov. 02 2009,12:26)

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(TheCatt @ Nov. 02 2009,10:41)

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Look at the bright side, you don't have Jim Zorn around.

If Jim Zorn had the Viking offense, he'd still be calling plays.

I guarantee you that with that offense, we'd be a 500 team at best.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 02 2009,12:44

Ok, I get the Washington fan shitting on his team, but Malcolm, your team is winning. Despite what you may think about the coach and QB, I advise you enjoy it while it lasts.

When's the last time the Vikings were a legit contender?

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 02 2009,12:50

Seriously, If I were in Malcolm's shoes... M's only conceivable gripe would be: a better coach would make this team a Super bowl lock, instead of just playoff contender, but still. The only things the Redskins will ever contend for is a wild card spot.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2009,13:15

QUOTE

Despite what you may think about the coach and QB, I advise you enjoy it while it lasts.

When's the last time the Vikings were a legit contender?

Childress sucks, period. Removing him is going to (on average) make shit better. Hell, Rosenfels can probably coach better. On principle, I'm pissed beyond words that a multi-time retiree is QB'ing my team. From a practical standpoint, provided we don't try to become a passing team & the turnovers are kept to a minimum -- hell, that's all we really need. That'll make other teams respect the run & we'll kill.

QUOTE

M's only conceivable gripe would be: a better coach would make this team a Super bowl lock, instead of just playoff contender, but still.

Ain't no such thing as a lock w\ a prima donna like Favre. There's always a 5% or so chance he'll force about ten straight attempts into quadruple coverage in the fourth quarter just because he hallucinates that he can. & the Vikings are fully capable of losing/beating themselves.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 02 2009,14:11

(Malcolm @ Nov. 02 2009,13:15)

QUOTE

There's always a 5% or so chance he'll force about ten straight attempts into quadruple coverage in the fourth quarter just because he hallucinates that he can.

I see your 5% and raise you at least 50%.

Life could be worse.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 02 2009,19:16

Football kicked my ass this week.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 08 2009,10:37

Stat of the day:
Dolphins Wildcat offense over past 2 games: 21 attempts, 37 yards.

Sounds about right.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 08 2009,12:34

I'm tired of hearing about that damned scheme & how it's "revolutionized" the game.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 08 2009,15:45

< Belichick sums up the Redskins >

QUOTE

Cole: Why are there so many bad teams around the league this year?

Belichick: Here’s the only thing I’ll say: I think to have a really good team in this league, you have to make a lot, a lot of good decisions. You have to have a lot of good people, players, coaches, whatever. You need a lot of those. Conversely, to not be competitive, you would have to have a lot of bad decisions. One bad decision is not going to do it, one bad player is not going to do it, one bad coach is not going to do it. You’re going to have to collectively, over a cumulative period of time, make a long series of bad decisions and accumulate a lot of players who are substandard for their position. There have to be a multitude of things that go wrong.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 08 2009,15:46

About this week ...

The Bears still aren't a real team. The Bengals might be.

Where the hell did Carolina's running game come from? It sure as fuck ain't coming from their opponents respecting their passing game.

Chris Johnson is officially the entire offensive scheme for the Titans.

Arizona must've cloned their football team. One copy sucks & the other can toss TDs at will. They alternate which team plays.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 08 2009,15:50

(TheCatt @ Nov. 08 2009,17:45)

QUOTE

< Belichick sums up the Redskins >

QUOTE

It's far easier to have your team implode than it is to have them consistently perform well.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 08 2009,16:20

Thoughts: ANY Passing when you are down by 3 and 5 minutes left in the game and already have 170 rushing yards is stupid.

Not bringing the blitz when the Saints are down by 14, also dumb.

Basically, that game was on John Fox.

Posted by unkbill on Nov. 11 2009,06:33

Thursday game this week everyone needs one pick in by then. As for bad teams. Did anyone watch the Detroit game. How many times can one shoot yourself in the foot. I thought they could actually win it. I told a lion fan it may have been less painful to stick a needle in my eye than to watch the second half of that game.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 11 2009,10:30

Why the hell is there a game this Thursday? Just because?

Posted by Troy on Nov. 11 2009,10:43

(Malcolm @ Nov. 11 2009,10:30)

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Why the hell is there a game this Thursday? Just because?

NFL network needs to pretend to be watched by someone.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2009,21:31

Five picks? Christ on a crutch, FIVE picks?

EDIT : I find it appropriate that a shitty, boring game was the one featured on NFL Network. Fuck you for artificially removing normally televised games, fuckers.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 12 2009,21:50

Remember the preseason when Cutler going to the Bears made them instant Super Bowl contenders?

Oops.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 12 2009,23:25

(Leisher @ Nov. 12 2009,23:50)

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Remember the preseason when Cutler going to the Bears made them instant Super Bowl contenders?

Oops.

Culter was the dude that had me picking Fotre #2 overall in one of my leagues.

I shall remember the name forever w\ the blackest of hatred.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 15 2009,09:32

QUOTE

Culter was the dude that had me picking Fotre #2 overall in one of my leagues.

Ditto. The 16 points he got me Thursday night is the most in a long time.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 15 2009,11:30

Lord, playing well, but losing our stars left and right.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2009,11:44

Fucking AP & his goddamned fumbles. We'd've at least ten more points now. & that shitty pitch. Fucking hell, I can pitch a fucking football. Can't believe we ain't up more than a score.

Suppose I could say the same about the Saints v. Rams.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 15 2009,13:06

Best weekend of football I've had in a long, long time.
UNC, Panthers, and Redskins - All underdogs - All win exciting games.

Love it.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2009,13:10

& the Steelers go down again. What happened to that much vaunted run game last year? & when do Big Ben & his receivers all click together? For a dude w\ 3 legit WRs & a good TE to throw to, he's been unimpressive.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 15 2009,18:17

Oh, and Notre Dame lost.

Complete win this weekend.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 15 2009,18:45

(TheCatt @ Nov. 15 2009,13:06)

QUOTE

Best weekend of football I've had in a long, long time.
UNC, Panthers, and Redskins - All underdogs - All win exciting games.

Love it.

High 5.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2009,20:49

Holy shit. Indy pulls one out of its ass. Or maybe New England let it slip away. Either way, there's still two undefeated teams.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 15 2009,20:50

Holy shit that Indy/Pats game.

Belichick out Belichicks himself.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 15 2009,22:07

(Troy @ Nov. 15 2009,22:50)

QUOTE

Belichick out Belichicks himself.

Can't think of a more deserving dude.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2009,05:27

WOW. I went to bed at halftime thinking "Well, looks like Indy's just too depleted on D."

Woke up this morning, and was like "wut wut wut?!" when I saw the score, then I read what happened.

50-yard line, I might have done the same. 28 yard line or whatever? no.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2009,05:27

< Fake FG and Fake Punt in the same play >

That was fun to watch.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 16 2009,06:19

(TheCatt @ Nov. 16 2009,07:27)

QUOTE

Turned them off when NE scored their last TD sometime at the beginning of the fourth. Flipping thru the channels in the last five or so minutes. Caught the end of it. Way more fight than I thought the Colts had in them.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 16 2009,11:21

QUOTE

& the Steelers go down again.

(Side note: They're 0-3 without Polamalu, undefeated with him.)

Easily one of the sloppiest and worst played games I've ever seen. Both teams were garbage.

Stat leaders from the game-

Passing:
Carson Palmer - 178 yards passing
Big Ben - 174 yards passing

Rushing:
Bernard Scott - 33 yards
Rashard Mendenhall - 36 yards

Granted, it was the #1 and #2 run defenses, but what a fucking ugly game.

QUOTE

What happened to that much vaunted run game last year?

You'll have to explain what you mean by that. The Steelers had a horrible run game last year.

QUOTE

& when do Big Ben & his receivers all click together? For a dude w\ 3 legit WRs & a good TE to throw to, he's been unimpressive.

Yeah, he's a fucking hack. He should take his two Super Bowl rings and get off the field as he has no business being there, despite being on pace to throw for 4500 yards this year...

Something was wrong yesterday and despite what you'll hear, it wasn't just Cincinnati's pass rush. Sure, they got to him, but even when he was all alone, his mechanics were all fucked up. He was overthrowing guys. His decision making was terrible too.

The first game with Troy Polamalu out, the Bengals completed a miracle comeback based on stupid defensive play calling, a dropped wide open TD, and a few freak bounces of the ball.

This game Troy Polamalu goes out again on the first drive, Ben plays his worst game as a starter, our DBs drop three INTs, their INT came off another player's head and shot into the air putting them immediately in field goal range, and Cincinnati is gifted a kick return TD despite some brutally obvious blocks in the back in the path of the ball carrier.

Translation: The better team didn't win either game this year.

Horrible weekend for my teams. Steelers O sucked and they lost. Buckeyes look like shit despite winning. (I've got a lot of negative stuff to say about them.)

Thankfully, Notre Dame and USC both got beat. At least that gave me something to smile about.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 16 2009,11:23

QUOTE

and Cincinnati is gifted a kick return TD despite some brutally obvious blocks in the back in the path of the ball carrier.

This, and offsides on a kickoff, seem to be the two most undercalled events in football.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 16 2009,11:25

QUOTE

This, and offsides on a kickoff, seem to be the two most undercalled events in football.

True. Meanwhile, pass interference is the most overcalled.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2009,05:31

(Leisher @ Nov. 16 2009,13:25)

QUOTE

This, and offsides on a kickoff, seem to be the two most undercalled events in football.

True. Meanwhile, pass interference is the most overcalled.

Roughing the passer.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 17 2009,05:54

(Malcolm @ Nov. 17 2009,08:31)

QUOTE

(Leisher @ Nov. 16 2009,13:25)

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This, and offsides on a kickoff, seem to be the two most undercalled events in football.

True. Meanwhile, pass interference is the most overcalled.

Roughing the passer.

That's only when Brady is playing.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 17 2009,06:10

I watched the Browns/Ravens game last night to feel better about my team.

It worked, it really did, that was some horrible football.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 17 2009,06:24

(Leisher @ Nov. 17 2009,07:54)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Nov. 17 2009,08:31)

QUOTE

(Leisher @ Nov. 16 2009,13:25)

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This, and offsides on a kickoff, seem to be the two most undercalled events in football.

True. Meanwhile, pass interference is the most overcalled.

Roughing the passer.

That's only when Brady is playing.

The day'll come when the QB just wears a couple flags. Soon as you grab one, he'll be considered "sacked." Looking at the QB for more than three seconds at a time will be a 5-yard penalty.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 17 2009,08:06

(Malcolm @ Nov. 17 2009,08:31)

QUOTE

(Leisher @ Nov. 16 2009,13:25)

QUOTE

This, and offsides on a kickoff, seem to be the two most undercalled events in football.

True. Meanwhile, pass interference is the most overcalled.

Roughing the passer.

I think I'd go with pass interference over roughing the passer. In fact, I rarely see roughing the passer get called, but I also don't watch many Pats games.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 20 2009,12:05

FUCK YOU, NFL. Fuck you & your Thursday games.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 20 2009,12:30

QUOTE

Fuck you & your Thursday games.

Agreed.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 20 2009,14:19

(Leisher @ Nov. 20 2009,15:30)

QUOTE

Fuck you & your Thursday games.

Agreed.

Amen.

And Leisher (to not create another sports thread, and since i know you care more about football), good game last night. Looks like yall almost pulled it out.

Posted by Troy on Nov. 20 2009,14:54

(TheCatt @ Nov. 20 2009,14:19)

QUOTE

(Leisher @ Nov. 20 2009,15:30)

QUOTE

Fuck you & your Thursday games.

Agreed.

Amen.

And Leisher (to not create another sports thread, and since i know you care more about football), good game last night. Looks like yall almost pulled it out.

Pff... pulled it out cause we stopped playing D in the last 2 minutes to make the interesting.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 20 2009,15:51

I only watched the first half. I was like "we need to lead by at least 10, or we'll choke and blow it."

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 20 2009,22:36

The Bucks are a young team, but I figured they wouldn't hang with UNC. Still, I give Matta all the credit in the world for not ducking anyone. Since he's arrived OSU's schedule is filled with tier 1 teams instead of the crap his predecessors scheduled.

They had a good showing against Cal to make up for their 4 point loss to UNC.

But what the hell happened against Syracuse? I only saw the final score. Was it really that bad?

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 21 2009,04:11

It was neck and neck until the 2nd half, then we had a really bad stretch, and it stayed that way.

We sorely lack some perimeter shooting.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 22 2009,13:16

Leisher and I are gonna go cry over some beers.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 22 2009,13:24

No shit.

The Steelers are in complete disarray. Without Polamalu, the defense is average, and now with Ben possibly out, we're all done. Even with him in, things just look off.

Something has to be done about that line.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 22 2009,15:54

We apparently need at least a new kicker.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2009,15:58

When Rock Cartwright is your offense star, your offense in trouble.

When a 2nd- to 3rd-string RB on a mediocre team lights you up for a kickoff return score & a 4th quarter game-tying TD, your defense is in trouble.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 22 2009,17:07

I hope you are relishing every win your team gets.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 22 2009,19:15

(TheCatt @ Nov. 22 2009,19:07)

QUOTE

I hope you are relishing every win your team gets.

That pussy schedule is going to get us when we hit the postseason & realize we're just 1-1 w\ real games.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 22 2009,21:07

I'm hoping for a repeat of 2004-5, but I know 2005-6 is more likely right now.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 25 2009,18:41

Remember picks. Lions are ~~playing~~ ~~losing~~ getting their asses kicked tomorrow.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 29 2009,13:56

Damn. The 'Skins just can't catch a break.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2009,18:39

Goddamned Saints. Jeebus.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 30 2009,18:55

The Saints are putting on a clinic.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2009,19:02

(TheCatt @ Nov. 30 2009,20:55)

QUOTE

The Saints are putting on a clinic.

They keep this momentum going after half-time, I'll call this legit.

Posted by TheCatt on Nov. 30 2009,19:57

Yeah, I've had my doubts. But, wow. They're offensive is certainly for real. And the D is good enough.

Posted by Leisher on Nov. 30 2009,20:10

This is impressive, but it could also be them exposing the Patriots. Let's be honest, the Patriots are old and don't have anyone on defense anymore.

I think people still rate them highly because of the last decade, Brady, Bellichek, and their weak conference.

Remember, the Jets held the Saints offense to a single touchdown this year.

Meanwhile, the Saints have to win it all this year because their players are getting exposure, meaning free agency will hurt them. I know Bush will be gone, not that he's much of anything.

Posted by Malcolm on Nov. 30 2009,20:12

The Pats still have a kick-ass offense. Brady, Moss, Welker, any other number of WRs & TEs, Maroney...

Their D sucks donkey ass, though.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 01 2009,07:18

The weekend two weeks before super bowl.

Saints vs Vikings

Bengals vs Colts

Glad I just bought a new TV!

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 01 2009,07:52

Don't be so sure about the Bengals. They're pretenders. They have a ultra easy schedule and have needed everything to go their way to beat the Steelers.

This is the exact same team that has only had one winning season in the last decade. All they did was add a few more criminals.

I'm looking forward to seeing their draw in the playoffs because I don't know if they'll get out of the first round.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 01 2009,09:18

(Leisher @ Dec. 01 2009,09:52)

QUOTE

Carson Palmer & the passing game have been in a deep blue funk for a few weeks. Take away the Bengals throwing the football & they become one-trick ponies that last about a half.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,11:35

Damn. Washington looked like a real team there for just a brief second.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2009,13:00

(Malcolm @ Dec. 06 2009,14:35)

QUOTE

Damn. Washington looked like a real team there for just a brief second.

If you look at what they've done since the new Offensive play caller-whatever guy was brought in, it's certainly been a world different than the first half of the season:
Sun 11/15 Denver Broncos Denver (6-2) W 27 - 17
Sun 11/22 Dallas Cowboys at Dallas (6-3) L 6 - 7
Sun 11/29 Philadelphia Eagles at Philadelphia (6-4) L 24 - 27

Then today, leading NO by 7.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2009,13:06

And, as good as the Skins have looked, relatively speaking... oh, the poor Steelers.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,13:15

Holy fuck.

Oakland takes down the Steelers? The Pittsburgh offense showed up, but the D is out on a fucking holiday. You got lit up by a Raider rookie for a 75-yd. score. Ouch.

Is Miami about to beat the Pats? Damn.

& the Saints are losing to Washington w\ 90 seconds or so left. C'mon Washington.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 06 2009,13:18

TD saints.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,13:18

Son-of-a-bitch. Another late game the Saints pull out of their ass? Wtf?

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2009,13:23

(Malcolm @ Dec. 06 2009,16:18)

QUOTE

Son-of-a-bitch. Another late game the Saints pull out of their ass? Wtf?

I think you mean, the Redskins choking again in the 4th quarter.

SERIOUSLY? 23 YARDS?!?

QUOTE

4th-4, NO4 1:52 S. Suisham missed a 23-yard field goal

Posted by Troy on Dec. 06 2009,13:26

Epic Interception.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,13:26

Is Jason Campbell this bad or is someone paying him off?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,13:30

& the kick is no good. Maybe the laces were in. To OT we go.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 06 2009,13:41

Well done skins, way to fuck this one up out of NOWHERE.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,13:47

(Troy @ Dec. 06 2009,15:41)

QUOTE

Well done skins, way to fuck this one up out of NOWHERE.

It's like Madden NFL when the computer somehow becomes 1000% better at offense when it's down in the fourth quarter.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 06 2009,13:53

I know the skins are gonna whine about the refs, but DAMN, i only watched 15m of that, and you played like ass.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,17:00

Hey catt, barring some insane events, I think you & I both made it to the postseason in the league.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 06 2009,17:55

(Malcolm @ Dec. 06 2009,20:00)

QUOTE

Hey catt, barring some insane events, I think you & I both made it to the postseason in the league.

Still one more week to go, but if we win out, we're in.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,18:55

Fucking Vikings secondary couldn't stop Jim Sorgi.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,20:05

Childress, you fucktard, WHY ARE YOU PUNTING? Christ on a fucking crutch. 3 possession game, 10:00 to go. Fucking grow a pair.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 06 2009,20:46

Forty-five passing attempts. Twenty rushes. You fuckwit.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 06 2009,20:56

That injury made me want to die.

The bottom half of your leg should not flop around like the bones in it magically disappeared.

How do you even fix that, I mean, the man's leg looked like it had almost detached.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 07 2009,07:56

The Steelers are a fucking dumpster fire right now.

The offense seems to want to play from behind every game, while the defense looks lost without Troy.

At this point, I'm hoping for either a 2005 run (win out) or around pick #10. We could use some more secondary help.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2009,07:57

(Troy @ Dec. 06 2009,23:56)

QUOTE

I dont know what you are talking about.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2009,08:07

(TheCatt @ Dec. 07 2009,09:57)

QUOTE

(Troy @ Dec. 06 2009,23:56)

QUOTE

I dont know what you are talking about.

< The injury to E.J. Henderson. > There's speculation that type of leg injury tends to be career-ending.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 07 2009,08:23

< A .gif form >

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 07 2009,09:10

What's with MNF and lower leg fractures?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2009,18:55

Penalties & turnovers out the ass for a bit there. Shitloads of pass interference.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 07 2009,20:07

The Packers are dropping quicker than a chick after a Quagmire rufie-colada.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2009,16:12

So, Leish, can the Steelers handle the almighty Cleveland?

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 08 2009,17:47

They've beaten Cleveland 12 out of the last 12 times, and Cleveland is easily the worst team in the league.

Sadly, that's still not enough to make me totally confident.

If you're gambling, this is a statement game. The Steelers either blow out the Browns or start their draft preparations. after Sunday.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 08 2009,19:08

(Leisher @ Dec. 08 2009,19:47)

QUOTE

Cleveland is easily the worst team in the league.

St. Louis. Kyle Boller. 'Nuff said.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 10 2009,23:52

(Leisher @ Dec. 08 2009,19:47)

QUOTE

Cha-cing. Ouch. Dayum. What in the fuck?

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 11 2009,06:53

Like I said, start preparing for the draft.

Although, they could still get in if they sweep the next 3 games, and let's be honest, that's not out of the question.

This team just looks terrible though on both sides of the ball. There's no chemistry this year. Everything looks "off".

Still, if there's a positive, I can find three:
1. This type of year will make them hungry again.
2. They should get a good draft pick.
3. They've lost 5 games by 22 points total, and all 7 games were lost at the end of the game. There's no reason to think they won't rebound next year.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 11 2009,07:04

I like how everyone but Leisher took Cle with the spread. although, no one took them without it.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 11 2009,12:06

In my defense, it was 7:55 and I wasn't thinking. When I left the house at 8:00 to head to the bar I realized how stupid the spread was considering the weather.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 11 2009,12:39

Was it snowing? God I love football in the snow.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 11 2009,14:34

No, but it was -10 with wind chill.

Ball would have been like a rock, a football shaped, rubbery rock.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 13 2009,10:56

The Bengals have about ten penalties & it's only a third of the way thru the second quarter. & the Vikes can still only manage a fucking FG.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 13 2009,20:01

I've told everyone the Bengals are pretenders. Next year they will find their way back to 3rd place in the division unless Pittsburgh and Baltimore don't rebound after bad ears.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2009,06:22

Damn. Catt, I'm hoping for Tim Hightower to have a shitty game so we've got a 50% DTMan postseason.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 14 2009,11:00

Ahh, so pts is the tie-breaker I would lose if he won?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2009,14:07

(TheCatt @ Dec. 14 2009,13:00)

QUOTE

Ahh, so pts is the tie-breaker I would lose if he won?

Right now, my record is the same as the fisheads. I'm #4, he's #5. The one time we played, he beat me. I have him on total points scored, though, so I think that is indeed the tiebreaker.

Jetzeppelin, DeeRailed, & the Dethklok Dethteam are in. Out of all the folk that might be 9 - 5, I've got the most points after DeeRailed. That means it's down to you & fisheads. If Tim Hightower notches twelve points or more, he beats MTNHORS. That'd bring his record even w\ yours, which is tiebreaking territory.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2009,18:38

< Bellichick blasts Carolina >.

A couple Panther corners were saying that Randy wasn't playing as hard as he could.

QUOTE

Belichick, who rarely rips opponents, said, “My response would be that’s a lot of conversation coming from a team that just lost another game.”

Yeah, he just tapes his opponents' signals.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2009,19:05

Two picks & two fumbles. What the fuck? This is the team that beat the Vikes last week?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 14 2009,20:36

You're in, catt. Barry Sanders's shoelaces scored more points than Hightower.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 15 2009,04:56

(Malcolm @ Dec. 14 2009,23:36)

QUOTE

You're in, catt. Barry Sanders's shoelaces scored more points than Hightower.

I don't know what you did to him, but keep your voodoo away!

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 15 2009,08:50

I still say that they imperfectly cloned the Cardinals. One week the good team plays, the off week they rest & the shitty team plays.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 17 2009,09:10

Wtf? < Chris Henry's suspension now infinity games >.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 17 2009,09:39

Why do football players and their SO's keep having issues in Charlotte?

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2009,16:07

Great. Aaron Rodgers is kicking my ass in two leagues.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 20 2009,20:17

Hey, let's randomly decide to play really well.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2009,20:21

(Troy @ Dec. 20 2009,22:17)

QUOTE

Hey, let's randomly decide to play really well.

Yeah, wtf is up w\ that?

Posted by Troy on Dec. 20 2009,20:38

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2009,20:21)

QUOTE

(Troy @ Dec. 20 2009,22:17)

QUOTE

Hey, let's randomly decide to play really well.

Yeah, wtf is up w\ that?

Moore

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 20 2009,21:25

(Troy @ Dec. 20 2009,22:38)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Dec. 20 2009,20:21)

QUOTE

(Troy @ Dec. 20 2009,22:17)

QUOTE

Hey, let's randomly decide to play really well.

Yeah, wtf is up w\ that?

Moore

I think the more appropriate response is "not Delhomme."

Posted by unkbill on Dec. 21 2009,06:07

Fuck my Vikings. Abandon all hope.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2009,06:47

(unkbill @ Dec. 21 2009,08:07)

QUOTE

Fuck my Vikings. Abandon all hope.

They've clinched a playoff spot & they know there's no way they're getting home field advantage. So, I suppose not much was lost in a practical sense. But, d-a-y-u-m, that was some fugly playing.

Posted by Leisher on Dec. 21 2009,07:23

When NO lost on Saturday, Minnesota had to win out and they would have clinched home field. How do you choke to the Panthers?

I feel bad for Cincy not winning in honor of Chris Henry, but they have again lost to a playoff bound team. If the Steelers had won 2 of the 7 games they've lost in the 4th quarter this year, they'd now be tied for the division. That really says something about the two teams considering the horrible year Pittsburgh is having compared to the incredible year Cincy is having.

And how about that last second miracle win Sunday. I can't believe they pulled it out. Mike Wallace also put the last nail in Limus Swead's coffin out of Pittsburgh. I think Ike Taylor will be joining him.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 21 2009,08:01

(Leisher @ Dec. 21 2009,09:23)

QUOTE

When NO lost on Saturday, Minnesota had to win out and they would have clinched home field. How do you choke to the Panthers?

Gets better. Apparently, you can see Favre & Childress arguing on the sidelines at a time when the Vikes were up 7-6.

Childress's version is that they were arguing over how improve the offense that game. Favre's version is that Childress wanted to switch QBs.

& how do you lose to Carolina? Fucking 41 rushing yards. That's how.

Posted by Troy on Dec. 21 2009,08:18

Defense has never been our problem this season.

Turnovers, always turnovers. When you take those out of the equation, you have a decent team underneath.

Posted by TheCatt on Dec. 22 2009,05:09

(Malcolm @ Dec. 14 2009,09:22)

QUOTE

Damn. Catt, I'm hoping for Tim Hightower to have a shitty game so we've got a 50% DTMan postseason.

Well, now we've got a 100% DTMan consolation game.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 22 2009,05:12

(TheCatt @ Dec. 22 2009,07:09)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Dec. 14 2009,09:22)

QUOTE

Damn. Catt, I'm hoping for Tim Hightower to have a shitty game so we've got a 50% DTMan postseason.

Well, now we've got a 100% DTMan consolation game.

I got eliminated from all my postseason brackets this past weekend. Fucking hell.

Everyone on the Steelers EXCEPT fucking Santonio had a good game. I still stand by my belief that autodrafts are retarded.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2009,19:31

I'm sensing a "1 & out" kind of postseason for the Vikings.

Posted by Malcolm on Dec. 28 2009,20:59

Good time to fumble, AP. Real fucking good.

Posted by unkbill on Jan. 01 2010,19:22

What up with all the 10 am games on Sunday?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 01 2010,20:18

Ain't no 10am games this week.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 02 2010,05:19

(unkbill @ Jan. 01 2010,22:22)

QUOTE

What up with all the 10 am games on Sunday?

That's Pacific time.

Posted by unkbill on Jan. 02 2010,06:09

Yahoo must have reset. They are at 1 again.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 04 2010,06:56

Interesting notes:
1) Both NFC playoff games this weekend are the same match-ups, same locations, as those 4 teams were in this past week.
2) Denver started 6-0, finished 8-8, and out of the playoffs, under a rookie coach.
3) Zorn fired (Thank goodness). He also had a great start as a rookie coach (5-1, iirc), and finished 8-8 and out of the playoffs.

Posted by unkbill on Jan. 04 2010,08:05

That NFC thing is wild. But poor Cincinnati, The announcers were just dieing for the game, along with most people watching, for it to end. I doubt if the rematch will be more eventful.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 04 2010,09:05

Let's see how karma treats New England, Indy, and Cincinnati all of whom laid down this week, or in Indy's case, last week.

I already say New England is screwed without Welker.

For Cincy, Palmer was 1 for 11 with a INT against the team they face this weekend.

Indy is one Peyton injury away from being as good as St. Louis.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 04 2010,13:34

Fiancee and I were trying to figure out a team to go for in the playoffs, as we've never had a backup team.

Cowboys, Saints, Colts, Iggies, Green Bay, Vikings are out, as the hate is too engrained.

Chargers or Jets, I guess?

Maybe just wheover is playing a team on the first list?

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 04 2010,15:46

QUOTE

Let's see how karma treats New England, Indy, and Cincinnati all of whom laid down this week, or in Indy's case, last week.

Fuck the undefeated season. I'd rather have uninjured starters.

QUOTE

For Cincy, Palmer was 1 for 11 with a INT against the team they face this weekend.

I think they're going to get lit like a Christmas tree during the first round.

QUOTE

Indy is one Peyton injury away from being as good as St. Louis.

Reggie Wayne's helmet is still more talented than most of the Rams' WRs.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2010,12:16

< Redskins get a new coach >. Holy balls. This could be interesting.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 06 2010,12:35

Yeah, I dunno. Zorn was a disaster, but I don't know that this makes us a stellar team yet. I really think our best bet is the end of salary caps, and going all NY Yankees on the league.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 06 2010,14:20

Shanahan's a crazy fucking dude. Good to see him back coaching. He's usually entertaining even if his team isn't.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 16 2010,14:46

(TheCatt @ Nov. 16 2009,14:23)

QUOTE

and Cincinnati is gifted a kick return TD despite some brutally obvious blocks in the back in the path of the ball carrier.

This, and offsides on a kickoff, seem to be the two most undercalled events in football.

OMG - it just got called.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 17 2010,11:55

I'm not so much cheering for Minnesota, as for Suisham to suck.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 17 2010,12:21

(TheCatt @ Jan. 17 2010,13:55)

QUOTE

I'm not so much cheering for Minnesota, as for Suisham to suck.

Yeah. I glanced at the game stats & thought to myself, "Holy shit. That's where Sir Shanks-a-lot ended up."

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 17 2010,12:41

Sidney Rice is lighting that up that field like it's Ricky Williams's blunt.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 17 2010,19:14

The Colts/Jets vs. the Saints/Vikes.

Anyone psychotic enough to pick New York for an upset?

Posted by Troy on Jan. 17 2010,19:40

(Malcolm @ Jan. 17 2010,19:14)

QUOTE

The Colts/Jets vs. the Saints/Vikes.

Anyone psychotic enough to pick New York for an upset?

I will.

I picked em for tonight too.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 18 2010,05:39

No. In all honesty, the only question is who will play Indy in the Super Bowl.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 18 2010,06:42

Indy laid down for the Jets with two games to go in the season, which essentially put the Jets into the playoffs.

Let's see if karma catches up with the Colts.

Keep in mind that the Jets held the NO offense to 10 points in NO earlier in the year. So they can stop good offenses. their biggest question marks involve their own offense, particularly at QB.

P.S. Do you think Mark Sanchez has emailed or called Pete Carroll to tell him to suck his dick? If you remember, Pete Carroll publically blasted Mark Sanchez for leaving after his junior year saying he wasn't ready, etc. Now Sanchez is one game away from the Super Bowl and Pete Carroll had to flee USC because of the NCAA investigation that's about to drop the hammer on the football program.

Posted by Troy on Jan. 18 2010,11:38

(Leisher @ Jan. 18 2010,06:42)

QUOTE

He did make that wisecrack at the press conference after the Bengal's game.

That was funny.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 18 2010,12:08

(Troy @ Jan. 17 2010,22:40)

QUOTE

(Malcolm @ Jan. 17 2010,19:14)

QUOTE

The Colts/Jets vs. the Saints/Vikes.

Anyone psychotic enough to pick New York for an upset?

I will.

I picked em for tonight too.

Spread/$ on the game?

Posted by unkbill on Jan. 19 2010,05:48

Good Lord my Vikings kicked Dallas' ass. If they can only play that well on the road in another dome. My Vikes might not win but am hoping for a good game out of them and are not embarrassing . Of course that means Farve might not retire......

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 19 2010,11:44

(unkbill @ Jan. 19 2010,07:48)

QUOTE

I ain't saying it's impossible for the Vikings secondary to stop New Orleans. That cuts both ways, too. Minnesota could tear up the Saints D. I'm curious about the running games, though. Reggie Bush has been kicking much ass as of late.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2010,16:02

Vikes & Saints. Looks to be a game of who's offense is going to fuck up more. If this shyte doesn't produce a huge scoring affair, I don't know what will.

EDIT : Three seconds later, TD, Pierre Thomas.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2010,18:43

This is a great game.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2010,18:47

I'll give the Wall Street Journal credit. They predicted 29-28 (which is based on the average of lots of simulations)... and 28-28 with less than 2 minutes to go is pretty close.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2010,18:49

This game is still on, but would there be a better ending for Favre than beating Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl?

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2010,18:53

If he ran instead of throwing, this game would be over.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2010,19:10

This'll be interesting. How does this rule work? He obviously lost the ball and recovered behind the first down line.

Must not matter.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2010,19:12

HORRIBLE call!

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2010,19:15

I can't believe the Vikes turned it over on their last drive in the 4th. Fucking really, you HAD to throw it, really?!?!?!

EDIT : Childress, you're a fucking retard that deserves to be burned to death tied to a crossbar.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 24 2010,19:21

I predict Favre is back next year.

New Orleans, no matter if they win or lose the Super Bowl, will not get back to the NFC Championship next year.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2010,19:43

(Leisher @ Jan. 24 2010,21:21)

QUOTE

I predict Favre is back next year.

2 year contract, I heard, so yeah.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 24 2010,19:47

(Leisher @ Jan. 24 2010,21:53)

QUOTE

If he ran instead of throwing, this game would be over.

I don't think he was as open as the commentators made it sound, but I certainly think he could have made the 30-32 yd line.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 24 2010,20:00

It's still a dome. I'd feel more comfortable giving a lengthy kick to Longwell as opposed to another throw.

Posted by unkbill on Jan. 25 2010,04:34

(Malcolm @ Jan. 24 2010,19:43)

QUOTE

(Leisher @ Jan. 24 2010,21:21)

QUOTE

I predict Favre is back next year.

2 year contract, I heard, so yeah.

What a fucking idiot. If he would have just run a few yards and kicked a field goal I wouldn't have had to live through all those calls that went NO way.
They said that play was the first thing a QB learns not to do. Farve sure is a NO fans. If that fuckwit comes back next year consider me a Browns fan. Have you seen the Browns record? That is how pissed I am.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 25 2010,05:45

You guys can get shitty with Bret all you want, but the fact is that you wouldn't have made it to the NFC title game without him.

He threw 7 INTs all year until the 2 during that game. That's not bad.

Sure, he made a shitty throw at the end, but did he fumble the ball away three times? Did he allow the other team to score 31 points.

It's a team game.

And before you go defending your hatred for him or saying I don't know what I'm talking about, let me remind you that I'm a Pittsburgh Steeler fan and I was alive in 1994-5. See, that was the season the Steelers faced the Cowboys in the Super Bowl. Neil O'Donnell was the Steelers' QB and had an NFL record streak of passes without throwing a INT.

During the game, the Cowboys were outplayed and outcoached by the Steelers. Emmit Smith was held to 52 yards, and Aikman had a horrible day. The Steelers defense was just that good. Cowher called for an onside kick to start the game and recovered it.

It was a great day for most of the Steeler team.

However, they lost the game thanks to 2 INTs thrown by O'Donnell, both returned for TDs. Both so ridiculously bad that to this day I feel like he might have been paid off to throw the game.

So don't get too down on Bret. Sure, he made the mistake most people will remember, but at least the rest of his team made mistakes too unlike O'Donnell's. And Bret will be back next year, which means people will talk about Minnesota being a Super Bowl contender versus an also ran.

UPDATE: Yahoo's front page has a big article about the Vikings getting robbed. He points out the two big things I stated here in this thread: the pass interference call on 3rd and 5 during the Saints game winning drive and the Pierre Thomas 4th and 1 that should NOT have resulted in a first down.

The pass interference was a joke. The ball was uncatchable and the defender didn't touch the receiver.

And not only was it questionable if Thomas even reached the first down line, but he definitely fumbled, and definitely ended up behind that line. It should NOT have been a first down.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2010,11:04

I wanted them to win, to get to the Super Bowl & win so Favre would finally fucking retire.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 25 2010,11:23

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Brett Favre tells ESPN's Ed Werder it's "highly unlikely" he'll play football again after the Vikings' 31-28 overtime loss to the Saints in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday night.

Yeah, what-the-fuck-ever.

Posted by unkbill on Jan. 26 2010,05:39

(Leisher @ Jan. 25 2010,05:45)

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You guys can get shitty with Bret all you want, but the fact is that you wouldn't have made it to the NFC title game without him.

I don't believe that in the least. They could have picked up any old decent QB and done as well. Because they have the talent to make it happen. I was happy with the team itself. Even with the fumbles they were still in the game. Until some idiot makes a high school mistake. With an interception. Totally ignoring an easy 10 yard run and slide, kick a field goal to win the game. He simple grew up there and is a NO fan.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 26 2010,06:01

In that case, we should have given you, uh, whatever our QB's name is for this past season.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2010,13:09

< Warner might retire Friday >.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2010,13:53

With that retirement, the NFC West returns to being the NFL's undisputed worst conference. The winner being a guaranteed bye week for whatever wild card team gets lucky enough to play them.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 27 2010,14:23

Maybe Leinart will get better.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 27 2010,17:01

I wonder if Washington can pretend to be the state of Washington and get a new division.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 27 2010,20:07

Saw the first mock draft today. It showed Washington taking Clausen...

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 28 2010,05:03

(Leisher @ Jan. 27 2010,23:07)

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Saw the first mock draft today. It showed Washington taking Clausen...

That's not the end of the world, I don't think. I really haven't seen him play, but have heard decent things.

Posted by unkbill on Jan. 28 2010,07:06

Speculation kills me sometimes. Farve retiring and Minn. is going to talk to Phila. about bargaining for McNabb. Isn't this all just a little ways off.
I think Minn. has a good thing going. A little better blocking to make Peterson a running threat.(If he can't tow the line ax him) A half way decent QB to throw the to receivers.

Posted by Leisher on Jan. 29 2010,19:01

< It's official. >

I wonder if Leinart celebrated or got nervous knowing that now he's the man in Arizona.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 30 2010,15:36

I still remember watching the Rams go from worst to first in '99. Fucking amazing. They scored seemingly at will every game.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 30 2010,16:18

NFL to New Orleans : < We own you, motherfuckers >.

Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 31 2010,15:25

< Zorn ends up as Baltimore's QB coach >.

Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 31 2010,17:19

(Malcolm @ Jan. 31 2010,18:25)

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< Zorn ends up as Baltimore's QB coach >.

Sounds about right.

Posted by Malcolm on Feb. 07 2010,18:53

Goddamn Saints.

Posted by TheCatt on Feb. 07 2010,19:21

Wow, good game. Although, my daughter didn't even make it through the first half, fell asleep an hour before bedtime.

Posted by GORDON on Feb. 08 2010,04:26

On Saturday I was asked, "What time does the game start tomorrow?"

I had no idea what this person was talking about... I asked, "What game?"

Posted by unkbill on Feb. 08 2010,05:25

(Malcolm @ Feb. 07 2010,18:53)

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Goddamn Saints.

Yep, If they could have held for 33 more seconds I would have won 125$. I didn't mind the Colts scoring just wish they would have waited til the second half.

Posted by Troy on Feb. 08 2010,07:26

We ended up playing poker at halftime, and didn't even realise the game was almost over until 3 minutes left.

By then, it was all saints.

Posted by Troy on Apr. 04 2010,19:15

McNabb.... what?

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 04 2010,21:29

I can see Catt smiling from here.

I also wonder where this sits with Malcolm and Unk considering McNabb wanted to go to the Vikings.

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 05 2010,04:40

Whoa.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 05 2010,08:14

(Leisher @ Apr. 04 2010,23:29)

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I also wonder where this sits with Malcolm and Unk considering McNabb wanted to go to the Vikings.

Would've been amusing to see Donovan play. But, whatever. Five years ago, I would've been pissed. Maybe he's just wisely avoiding in the inevitable Favre situation come August.

Posted by unkbill on Apr. 05 2010,08:58

(Leisher @ Apr. 04 2010,21:29)

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I can see Catt smiling from here.

I also wonder where this sits with Malcolm and Unk considering McNabb wanted to go to the Vikings.

My fantasy is that Farve comes back. But Pittsburgh may need him bad so they pay up the butt for him. Anybody but Farve for the Vikes.

Posted by Troy on Apr. 05 2010,09:18

We might grab cambell.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 05 2010,09:21

(Troy @ Apr. 05 2010,11:18)

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We might grab cambell.

The soup?

Posted by Troy on Apr. 05 2010,09:26

(Malcolm @ Apr. 05 2010,09:21)

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(Troy @ Apr. 05 2010,11:18)

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We might grab cambell.

The soup?

Oops.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 05 2010,10:09

(Troy @ Apr. 05 2010,11:26)

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(Malcolm @ Apr. 05 2010,09:21)

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(Troy @ Apr. 05 2010,11:18)

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We might grab cambell.

The soup?

Oops.

Either way, you can have him. Although, it's probably a step up from Jake Dilhole.

Posted by Leisher on Apr. 05 2010,11:02

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My fantasy is that Farve comes back. But Pittsburgh may need him bad so they pay up the butt for him. Anybody but Farve for the Vikes.

Favre WILL come back. He just doesn't want to go through training camp.

As for Pittsburgh, not only do they not go out and spend huge money on free agents, but I think Ben will be playing in Pittsburgh this year. Beyond that is a different story. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Steelers move him OR make him become Mr. Community.

If he did get charged, which I think is unlikely at this point, it'd be interesting to see what they do. Do they go grab a free agent (outside of Favre, who's available?), do they grab a rookie in the draft, and/or do they let Dennis Dixon run the show? Remember Dixon had a great game against Baltimore last year.

Posted by Troy on Apr. 07 2010,06:54

Our front office has probably been up doing strategy sessions constantly since the McNabb move.

Evidently Carolina is Campbell's first choice, which makes sense, as we don't need a QB to carry our team on it's back, with our run game, o-line, and defense all being stout. We just need a solid decision maker, and game manager.

But the front office has already put it out there that Matt Moore was our starter, and our future.

Catt, what you do think? Does Campbell have enough upside to risk screwing up Moore's future?

Posted by TheCatt on Apr. 07 2010,06:58

I would just go with Moore. But if you can get Campbell cheap, it never hurts to have 2 decent QBs in this league. Campbell's good, but hell if he's ever going to be great.

Posted by Troy on Apr. 07 2010,07:01

"It's back"

Apparently my post accounted for the fact that we could get a non-humanoid quarterback.

Also, added a random apostrophe, fuck, early.

Posted by Malcolm on Apr. 07 2010,07:53

(TheCatt @ Apr. 07 2010,08:58)

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I would just go with Moore. But if you can get Campbell cheap, it never hurts to have 2 decent QBs in this league. Campbell's good, but hell if he's ever going to be great.

If you look up the entry for "backup" in the encyclopedia of the NFL, there should be pictures of Jason Campbell & Jim Sorgi. One of them just doesn't know he's a backup yet.

Posted by TheCatt on Sep. 12 2010,10:43

(TheCatt @ Jan. 16 2010,17:46)

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(TheCatt @ Nov. 16 2009,14:23)

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and Cincinnati is gifted a kick return TD despite some brutally obvious blocks in the back in the path of the ball carrier.

This, and offsides on a kickoff, seem to be the two most undercalled events in football.

OMG - it just got called.

Huh. Just saw it called again.

Posted by Malcolm on Sep. 12 2010,11:13

That sound you heard in New England? That was the collective asshole of the Bengals being ripped open.