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Forum: General Stuff Topic: Manziel started by: Leisher Posted by Leisher on Aug. 27 2013,18:30
< Texas A&M haven't announced their move yet. >What would you do? Knowing that the evidence makes it obvious he took money, but wondering if the NCAA can prove it, do you start him or sit him? You're playing the Temple Owls. If you can't beat them without him, you've got bigger issues. Based on what we know, if they play him, and then he's found innocent later, the fix was in, which this being the SEC, we know that's the case anyway... Posted by thibodeaux on Aug. 28 2013,04:40
How can you not let a guy named Johnny Football play football?
Posted by Malcolm on Aug. 28 2013,16:49
It's probably in his best interests to sit. However, if I coached that team ... absolutely start.
Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 28 2013,17:07
QUOTE Johnny Manziel was suspended for the first half of Texas A&M's opening game against Rice on Saturday for what the school called an ''inadvertent'' violation of NCAA rules by signing autographs. The penalty appears to have brought a quick end to an investigation that could have ruined the seventh-ranked Aggies' upcoming season. ... According to the statement, Texas A&M and the NCAA ''confirmed there is no evidence Manziel received money in exchange for autographs based on currently available information and statements by Manziel.'' Swept under the rug... nothing to see here. Posted by Leisher on Aug. 29 2013,06:44
I wish I could write about how stunned I was by this ruling, but sadly I fully expected it.If the NCAA was a government, its people would be rioting in the streets. People commenting on ESPN's article are 99% negative on this ruling. Between ESPN and the NCAA's obvious biased towards the SEC it's impossible for the rest of the country to get a fair shake. I'm really looking forward to watching four SEC teams in the playoffs every year... Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 29 2013,07:05
Either there's the possibility of something being there, and they need to investigate, or everything is fine. But there's NO WAY they know that by now.Although, I can't be too outraged, I'm not really a fan of the NCAA keeping these people from getting paid in some manner. Posted by thibodeaux on Aug. 29 2013,08:09
How much money did Johnny make for the NCAA, you reckon?
Posted by Leisher on Aug. 29 2013,08:31
QUOTE I'm not really a fan of the NCAA keeping these people from getting paid in some manner. I really wish someone had not paid for my education, room and board, food, transportation, had assistants help me with everything, etc. Point being, it's not about them getting paid, it's about them getting paid MORE. If they do end up getting paid, ala the NFL where teams can bid on players, it will be the disastrous for not only the college sports world, but also the professional sports world, including our Olympic teams. QUOTE How much money did Johnny make for the NCAA, you reckon? And that's the problem with ESPN right now. They either no longer report negative SEC stories or they downplay them. They also act as a recruiting arm for the SEC. All because they're airing SEC games. I guarantee you if they make that deal with the Big Ten or the PAC Ten and all you'd hear about is positive stories about those conferences. Posted by TheCatt on Aug. 29 2013,10:37
(Leisher @ Aug. 29 2013,11:31) QUOTE And that's the problem with ESPN right now. They either no longer report negative SEC stories or they downplay them. They also act as a recruiting arm for the SEC. All because they're airing SEC games. I guarantee you if they make that deal with the Big Ten or the PAC Ten and all you'd hear about is positive stories about those conferences. You are mistaken, here. QUOTE BIG12 First-tier rights: $480 million, ESPN , eight years through 2015-16 Second-tier rights: $1.17 billion, FOX, 13 years through 2024-25 Per-year average: $150 million Per-school, per-year average: $15 million PAC-12 First- and second-tier rights: $3 billion, ESPN/FOX , 12 years through 2023-24 Per-year average: $250 million Per-school, per-year average: $20.8 million SEC First-tier rights: $825 million, CBS, 15 years through 2023-24 Second-tier rights: $2.25 billion, ESPN, 15 years through 2023-24 Per-year average: $205 million Per-school, per-year average: $14.6 million BIG TEN First-tier rights: $1 billion, ESPN, 10 years through 2016-17 Second-tier rights: $2.8 billion, Big Ten Network, 25 years through 2031-32 Select basketball rights (minimum of 24 games, men’s tournament semifinal and championship games): $72 million, CBS, six years through 2016-17 Football Championship Game: $145 million, FOX, six years through 2016 Per-year average: $248.2 million Per-school, per-year average: $20.7 million ACC First-, second- and third-tier rights: $3.6 billion, ESPN, 15 years through 2026-27 Per-year average: $240 million Per-school, per-year average: $17.1 million BIG EAST First-tier rights: $200 million, ESPN , six years for basketball through 2012-13; seven years for football through 2012-13 Second-tier rights: Basketball, $54 million, CBS, six years through 2012-13 ESPN has the LEAST rights on SEC football. Posted by Leisher on Aug. 29 2013,12:16
ESPN and the SEC just signed some massive new deal that has critics from all corners saying that ESPN's coverage has changed. Also, looking at those numbers, 2.2 BILLION for second tier rights? That might explain why their stories have been so positive towards the SEC. You can't sell the second tier guys if the first tier guys get caught cheating or get knocked down a few pegs in public perception. The BTN can pay 2.8 billion and be biased. Hell, it's right in their name. I mean, you can't sit there and say ESPN doesn't allow bias because Mark May. (Yes, that sentence is correct.) Posted by GORDON on Aug. 29 2013,12:41
The only thing I know about the NCAA is how they tried to keep that poor kid from being successful in the movie The Blind Side. They seem like evil cartoon villains, to me. Posted by Paul on Aug. 29 2013,17:16
(GORDON @ Aug. 29 2013,15:41) QUOTE The only thing I know about the NCAA is how they tried to keep that poor kid from being successful in the movie The Blind Side. They seem like evil cartoon villains, to me. < http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/387407/stu-dent-ath-o-leets > Posted by Leisher on Aug. 31 2013,12:30
Little asshole comes in, throws his first td, holds up his hands and rubs his thumbs on his index and middle fingers. What a dick. I hope the NCAA cocksuckers who sweep his crime under the rug saw that. I want them to know how little respect he has for them. Posted by Cakedaddy on Aug. 31 2013,12:39
He's making them a lot of money. They don't care.
Posted by Leisher on Sep. 06 2013,08:36
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