Topic: Congresswoman Shot
started by: thibodeaux
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 08 2011,13:48
< Palin To Blame >.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 08 2011,13:53
It is upsetting that a child was killed.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 08 2011,15:03
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 08 2011,15:48)
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< Palin To Blame >.
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Tea Party Queen, Sarah Palin, in a shocking display of violent extremism, targeted Democratic Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords for defeat by putting the Congresswoman in a rifle crosshairs graphic on her SarahPAC website.
Positively "shocking." How could anyone permit such things?
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 09 2011,06:00
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 08 2011,16:48)
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< Palin To Blame >.
The leftie sites have been pushing this HARD overnight. Palin's facebook was hammered with people calling her a murderer. Her site admin must be tired this morning.
Posted by unkbill on Jan. 09 2011,06:06
Is she a murderer, I don't think so. Do I find it offensive that any politician would frame someones face in a scope. Yes. Just an example why I think she is a stupid bitch.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 09 2011,06:35
Coach: "Ok team, I want you to go out there and murder 'em! Rip em up! Show em no mercy!"Two days later, opposing team member dies in a hit and run.
The Left: "The coach used angry rhetoric and it is his fault."
Nah, sounds stupid in that circumstance, too.
This situation illustrates to me that lefties are as dishonest as I've always thought they were, and that Palin Derangement Syndrome is a very real thing. There seriously needs to be a study.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 09 2011,07:48
< "Two Sicknesses on Display in Arizona." >QUOTE
The first and most serious is the sickness living in Loughner's head. Evidence in the form of farewell videos, internet postings, and the recollections of people who knew him reveal a profoundly disturbed person who had veered far into a paranoid world. Loughner's complaints about government mind control and other rants were not "anti-government" in any political sense, but anti-government or anarchist in the Ted Kazynski-deranged sense. We do not know Loughner's motives, but those motives whatever they were were the byproduct of Loughner's clearly delusional view of the world.
There also was a second sickness on display, and it was the swiftness and the vigor with which the left-wing blogosphere and some more mainstream Democrats immediately sought to blame Sarah Palin and right-wing "vitriol" in general for the shooting.
Within minutes of the shooting being made known, two of the highest profile left-wing bloggers, Markos Moulitsas of DailyKos and Matthew Yglesias of Think Progress, pulled out a 10-month-old electoral map used at a Sarah Palin website showing almost two dozen congressional districts being targeted, including Giffords' district. The map was similar to one used by the Democratic Leadership Committee to target Republicans in the prior election cycle, and as Howard Kurtz points out, simply typical of campaign rhetoric using military-themed language.
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There also was a second sickness on display, and it was the swiftness and the vigor with which the left-wing blogosphere and some more mainstream Democrats immediately sought to blame Sarah Palin and right-wing "vitriol" in general for the shooting.
Within minutes of the shooting being made known, two of the highest profile left-wing bloggers, Markos Moulitsas of DailyKos and Matthew Yglesias of Think Progress, pulled out a 10-month-old electoral map used at a Sarah Palin website showing almost two dozen congressional districts being targeted, including Giffords' district. The map was similar to one used by the Democratic Leadership Committee to target Republicans in the prior election cycle, and as Howard Kurtz points out, simply typical of campaign rhetoric using military-themed language.
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There needs to be a study. This shit is sick.
Posted by unkbill on Jan. 09 2011,09:54
(GORDON @ Jan. 09 2011,06:35)
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Coach: "Ok team, I want you to go out there and murder 'em! Rip em up! Show em no mercy!"
Two days later, opposing team member dies in a hit and run.
The Left: "The coach used angry rhetoric and it is his fault."
Nah, sounds stupid in that circumstance, too.
This situation illustrates to me that lefties are as dishonest as I've always thought they were, and that Palin Derangement Syndrome is a very real thing. There seriously needs to be a study.
Two days later, opposing team member dies in a hit and run.
The Left: "The coach used angry rhetoric and it is his fault."
Nah, sounds stupid in that circumstance, too.
This situation illustrates to me that lefties are as dishonest as I've always thought they were, and that Palin Derangement Syndrome is a very real thing. There seriously needs to be a study.
Little different analogy than a gun. Or as a marine you were allowed to run around and point your weapon at whatever you felt like. Even a human.
Never point a gun at someone unless you plan on using it. Simple hunting 101. Even if it is a target on a map people know what that infers and I think it is a fucked up thing to do.
I would say that no matter who did it. D or R or some fucked up individual on the street.
When it was done to Osama I applauded it because I think it should have been done.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 09 2011,10:33
If you can demonstrate where Sarah Palin literally pointed a gun at her head, or even suggested that anyone needed to be killed that is more than a little target on a political map that was to, you know, target weak districts in an election, I will concede the point.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 09 2011,10:46
Holy crap, look at this dangerous rhetoric. The President is very clearly advocating murder.< http://blogs.wsj.com/washwir....g-a-gun >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2011,12:31
Palin looks to have had about as much to do with this as J.D. Salinger had to do with John Lennon getting shot.
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 09 2011,14:24
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Rep. Robert Brady, D-Pennsylvania, said he will introduce legislation making it a federal crime for a person to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or inciting violence against a Member of Congress or federal official.
Brady's decision to offer the legislation comes less than 24 hours after a gunman attempted to assassinate Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, in a shooting that claimed the lives of a federal judge, and a nine year-old girl, among others.
Brady's decision to offer the legislation comes less than 24 hours after a gunman attempted to assassinate Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, in a shooting that claimed the lives of a federal judge, and a nine year-old girl, among others.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 09 2011,14:35
Here we go.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 09 2011,17:19
The minute I heard about this shooting the first thought I ad was: "This is going to cost the taxpayers a lot of money AND more freedoms."
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 09 2011,19:51
Been following the story today.I think this event is a litmus test. The people who don't know the facts less than 24 hours after it happened, and are spewing this "It's Palin's/Tea Baggers's/right-wing-rhetoric's" fault.... are the extremists. Nobody ever claims or admits to being an extremist, but these people are. Admitting that shit is the first step to fixing it.
There are a lot of fucking leftie extremists on the net.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 09 2011,22:17
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Rep. Robert Brady, D-Pennsylvania, said he will introduce legislation making it a federal crime for a person to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or inciting violence against a Member of Congress or federal official.
I think he may just want a press release saying that rather than the annoyance of actually doing it. This pretty much outright kills their claim to being the "free speech" party if it gets close to reality.
Posted by unkbill on Jan. 10 2011,05:04
Coach: "Ok team, I want you to go out there and murder 'em! Rip em up! Show em no mercy!"Two days later, opposing team member dies in a hit and run.
The Left: "The coach used angry rhetoric and it is his fault."
Nah, sounds stupid in that circumstance, too.
What you are talking about is a game. A gun scope is not a game. People don't point scopes at things because flowers pop up out of the ground and bunny rabbits chase butterflys.
If you can demonstrate where Sarah Palin literally pointed a gun at her head, or even suggested that anyone needed to be killed
She didn't but what she did she did maliciously. Funny how they yanked down that site with the targets today. Blamed a contractor for not doing it sooner. Couldn't be the public opionion is going bad against this kind of rhetoric.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,05:22
In this case, "public opinion" is a bunch of fascist, politically correct bullshit."Angry political rhetoric" doesn't get my panties in a bunch in spite of how the left is using it as a tool today.
But fuck it... what's a little less free expression? You know this means we can't burn political leaders in effigy any more, right?
Posted by TheCatt on Jan. 10 2011,06:39
(GORDON @ Jan. 09 2011,22:51)
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Been following the story today.
I think this event is a litmus test. The people who don't know the facts less than 24 hours after it happened, and are spewing this "It's Palin's/Tea Baggers's/right-wing-rhetoric's" fault.... are the extremists. Nobody ever claims or admits to being an extremist, but these people are. Admitting that shit is the first step to fixing it.
There are a lot of fucking leftie extremists on the net.
I think this event is a litmus test. The people who don't know the facts less than 24 hours after it happened, and are spewing this "It's Palin's/Tea Baggers's/right-wing-rhetoric's" fault.... are the extremists. Nobody ever claims or admits to being an extremist, but these people are. Admitting that shit is the first step to fixing it.
There are a lot of fucking leftie extremists on the net.
This crap is all over my facebook.
Apparently all my leftie friends have all the time in the world to facebook, cuz I rarely see conservative political opinion on it.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 10 2011,06:57
(TheCatt @ Jan. 10 2011,09:39)
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This crap is all over my facebook.
The only thing I've seen is from one friend whose brother is an advisor to Giffords, and he was basically just saying his brother wasn't there and so he's ok.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 10 2011,06:58
(Malcolm @ Jan. 10 2011,01:17)
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Rep. Robert Brady, D-Pennsylvania, said he will introduce legislation making it a federal crime for a person to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or inciting violence against a Member of Congress or federal official.
I think he may just want a press release saying that rather than the annoyance of actually doing it. This pretty much outright kills their claim to being the "free speech" party if it gets close to reality.
< Common sense from, God help us, Slate >.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,07:19
(TheCatt @ Jan. 10 2011,09:39)
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(GORDON @ Jan. 09 2011,22:51)
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Been following the story today.
I think this event is a litmus test. The people who don't know the facts less than 24 hours after it happened, and are spewing this "It's Palin's/Tea Baggers's/right-wing-rhetoric's" fault.... are the extremists. Nobody ever claims or admits to being an extremist, but these people are. Admitting that shit is the first step to fixing it.
There are a lot of fucking leftie extremists on the net.
I think this event is a litmus test. The people who don't know the facts less than 24 hours after it happened, and are spewing this "It's Palin's/Tea Baggers's/right-wing-rhetoric's" fault.... are the extremists. Nobody ever claims or admits to being an extremist, but these people are. Admitting that shit is the first step to fixing it.
There are a lot of fucking leftie extremists on the net.
This crap is all over my facebook.
Apparently all my leftie friends have all the time in the world to facebook, cuz I rarely see conservative political opinion on it.
I was tempted to put what I wrote above on Facebook.
But honestly.... there are too many people in my friend list who would be horribly offended and it would cause a huge shitstorm.
If there's one thing I have learned in the last 10 years, it is to never underestimate a democrat's ability to get offended.
So I'll just keep my mouth shut.
edit - I am going to post the Slate link though, since I saw Catt do it. Maybe since it is from a leftie rag it will make the lefties in my friend list think instead of just get offended.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,07:22
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 10 2011,09:58)
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(Malcolm @ Jan. 10 2011,01:17)
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Rep. Robert Brady, D-Pennsylvania, said he will introduce legislation making it a federal crime for a person to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or inciting violence against a Member of Congress or federal official.
I think he may just want a press release saying that rather than the annoyance of actually doing it. This pretty much outright kills their claim to being the "free speech" party if it gets close to reality.
< Common sense from, God help us, Slate >.
Wow. It is Slate.
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In Defense of Inflamed Rhetoric
The awesome stupidity of the calls to tamp down political speech in the wake of the Giffords shooting.
The awesome stupidity of the calls to tamp down political speech in the wake of the Giffords shooting.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 10 2011,08:21
Yahoo is running a picture of the 9 year old on its front page today. I hate that shit. No disrespect to that little girl at all, but it always makes me think the media outlet doing that is using her for their own gain. Put her picture in the story, not on your front page. Plus, it's depressing to see a kid who died at the hands of some nutjob. I'll avoid Yahoo for the rest of the day just because of that picture. On a different note, did you see when she was born? 9/11/2001
Poor kid.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,09:29
(GORDON @ Jan. 10 2011,10:19)
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edit - I am going to post the Slate link though, since I saw Catt do it. Maybe since it is from a leftie rag it will make the lefties in my friend list think instead of just get offended.
Not working. This link got posted on facebook right after mine:
< http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news....h-other >
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,09:32
Hey, maybe there is something to all this "angry rhetoric" coming from the right.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,10:07
Had to delete my link. Was offending too many people.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 10 2011,10:09
(GORDON @ Jan. 10 2011,13:07)
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Had to delete my link. Was offending too many people.
SRSLY?
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,10:24
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 10 2011,13:09)
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(GORDON @ Jan. 10 2011,13:07)
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Had to delete my link. Was offending too many people.
SRSLY?
I really can't discuss politics on facebook, since half of my family is on it. The second "I am disappointed in you" message I got, I decided it isn't worth it.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 10 2011,10:43
Way to hang tough, Marine.(Just kidding; I don't post anything political on facebook because of friends and coworkers being libs)
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2011,11:19
Fuck Facebook.
Posted by unkbill on Jan. 10 2011,11:51
(GORDON @ Jan. 10 2011,05:22)
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In this case, "public opinion" is a bunch of fascist, politically correct bullshit.
"Angry political rhetoric" doesn't get my panties in a bunch in spite of how the left is using it as a tool today.
But fuck it... what's a little less free expression? You know this means we can't burn political leaders in effigy any more, right?
"Angry political rhetoric" doesn't get my panties in a bunch in spite of how the left is using it as a tool today.
But fuck it... what's a little less free expression? You know this means we can't burn political leaders in effigy any more, right?
Guess I am a facist. When I see something I think is this wrong I am going to say something.
To me there is a difference between burning effigys and the line I think she crossed. It was just wrong. Just like the bullet in Bushs head.
You are entitled to your thoughts. Im just not buying it because I think it is a load of whoee.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,12:12
There is a difference between you having an opinion, and the government saying your opinion is illegal, and you'd better shut up about it.Are you really on the side trying to restrict free speech? People in my facebook friend list are.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,12:22
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 10 2011,13:43)
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Way to hang tough, Marine.
(Just kidding; I don't post anything political on facebook because of friends and coworkers being libs)
(Just kidding; I don't post anything political on facebook because of friends and coworkers being libs)
Yeah.
No need to make Easter any more awkward than necessary.
Help, help, I'm being oppressed.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 10 2011,12:48
I don't understand how people think Palin crossed a line. And I can't stand Palin, but she doesn't deserve this attack. I must have missed the part where she was telling people to go shoot the Dems they couldn't defeat in the election.And let's not forget every single Democrat, Republican, MSM member, and everyone else who used phrases like "targeting this seat" during the last elections. Are they all to blame too?
People need to calm down before responding to incidents like this one. One nut job shouldn't cause laws to be made for millions.
The truth here is that people are trying to use this tragedy to further their own political agenda. They are the scum of the Earth.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,12:50
Clinton had a War Room during his election.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2011,13:44
(GORDON @ Jan. 10 2011,14:50)
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Clinton had a War Room during his election.
"Gentlemen, gentlemen, you can't fight here! This is the war room!"
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 10 2011,14:29
< "Climate of Hate" chronicled >.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 10 2011,14:35
< Comedy Gold >QUOTE
Clyburn called for the Transportation Security Administration, which administers airport security checkpoints, to interact “a little better” with the Capitol Hill Police.
“We’ve had some incidents where TSA authorities think that congresspeople should be treated like everybody else,” he said. “Well, the fact of the matter is, we are held to a higher standard in so many other areas, and I think we need to take a hard look at exactly how the TSA interact with members of Congress.”
“We’ve had some incidents where TSA authorities think that congresspeople should be treated like everybody else,” he said. “Well, the fact of the matter is, we are held to a higher standard in so many other areas, and I think we need to take a hard look at exactly how the TSA interact with members of Congress.”
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 10 2011,15:09
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 10 2011,17:29)
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< "Climate of Hate" chronicled >.
Maybe I'll put this on facebook.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 10 2011,15:47
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 10 2011,16:35)
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< Comedy Gold >
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Clyburn called for the Transportation Security Administration, which administers airport security checkpoints, to interact “a little better” with the Capitol Hill Police.
“We’ve had some incidents where TSA authorities think that congresspeople should be treated like everybody else,” he said. “Well, the fact of the matter is, we are held to a higher standard in so many other areas, and I think we need to take a hard look at exactly how the TSA interact with members of Congress.”
“We’ve had some incidents where TSA authorities think that congresspeople should be treated like everybody else,” he said. “Well, the fact of the matter is, we are held to a higher standard in so many other areas, and I think we need to take a hard look at exactly how the TSA interact with members of Congress.”
What. The. Fuck.
Posted by unkbill on Jan. 11 2011,04:51
(GORDON @ Jan. 10 2011,12:12)
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There is a difference between you having an opinion, and the government saying your opinion is illegal, and you'd better shut up about it.
Are you really on the side trying to restrict free speech? People in my facebook friend list are.
Are you really on the side trying to restrict free speech? People in my facebook friend list are.
I am of the opionion that the free speach argument get hidden behind way to much. Just way to easy to try to end an argument or discussion.
People have there rights trampled by the government all the time. Im not allowed to pray in school or at the beginning of a football game if I had a mind to. It might blister peoples ears to hear a prayer.
Well I guess this wouldn't even be up for debate if someone had enough brains not to put cross hairs on a map for districts she wants eliminated. Did it inspire a nut. Don't know. But I thought it was massively wrong when she first did it.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 11 2011,05:06
(unkbill @ Jan. 11 2011,07:51)
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Im not allowed to pray in school or at the beginning of a football game if I had a mind to. It might blister peoples ears to hear a prayer.
Not to go on a tangent, but I'm pretty sure they can't stop YOU from praying. I believe the rule is that the school can't officially lead a prayer.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 11 2011,05:33
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Well I guess this wouldn't even be up for debate if someone had enough brains not to put cross hairs on a map for districts she wants eliminated.
Again, I'm not a big Palin fan, but why is she being singled out for this tactic? It's essentially marketing for voters, and various candidates from each party have been doing this sort of thing forever.
Palin had ZERO to do with the shootings in Arizona. To even imply that she had any sort of influence is ridiculous.
Or maybe the dog did tell David Berkowitz what to do...
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 11 2011,06:07
You can't censor the entire world trying to keep from giving wack jobs bad ideas any more than you can censor content for adults just to keep children from accidentally seeing it. The movement to do so smacks of a police state. It is upsetting to me that so many people don't have a problem with that.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 11 2011,06:55
I forgot: whose fault was it when the guy shot all those soldiers at Ft. Hood?
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 11 2011,10:12
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I forgot: whose fault was it when the guy shot all those soldiers at Ft. Hood?
That's a good point. How about the many, many cases of office and school shootings that have occurred throughout history and in all countries on this planet? Are they all Palin's fault? Are any the fault of the actual shooter?
< Majority of Americans say "Whatever happened to crazy?" > (If you don't get the reference, the article says most people believe political rhetoric had nothing to do with the shooting.)
Interestingly, Republicans overwhelmingly believed politics had nothing to do with the shooting. independents were next at around 60%. However, only 49% of Democrats believed political rhetoric had nothing to do with the shooting.
Considering all the shooter's "friends" claim he was a left wing nutjob, I find the fact that less than half of Dems thinking political rhetoric wasn't a factor, AND a huge movement by Dems to blame Palin, to be very telling.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2011,10:49
So, if someone shoots a Congressman with a bow and arrow now, we can't use arrows to point at or indicate things anymore? When someone punches a Congressman, we can't use fingers anymore? When we develop the first laser rifle, I bet we won't be able to use laser pointers anymore, either.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 11 2011,11:44
(Leisher @ Jan. 11 2011,13:12)
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Interestingly, Republicans overwhelmingly believed politics had nothing to do with the shooting. independents were next at around 60%. However, only 49% of Democrats believed political rhetoric had nothing to do with the shooting.
From what I have been reading for the last 2 days, Republicans say this had nothing to do with politics and are pissed at having a finger pointed at them, and Democrats are saying that the huge wave of Republicans saying it isn't their fault means they know they are guilty and are trying to hide it.
I've had to stop reading other peoples' opinions.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 11 2011,11:53
Current facebook status:Steve Gordon
wishes he could use the government to silence all speech which he personally disagrees with. But not really; Steve Gordon is not a psycho.
+++++++++++
If anyone chooses to flame me over that.... well then that's their problem.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 11 2011,13:30
NY republican wants to outlaw guns within 1000 feet of judges and congressmen.< http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news....-judges >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2011,13:50
(GORDON @ Jan. 11 2011,15:30)
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NY republican wants to outlaw guns within 1000 feet of judges and congressmen.
< http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news....-judges >
< http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news....-judges >
NY republican also wants to cash on in collective social stupidity and get reelected.
I remember seeing some graph showing the number of bills shot down or never heard of again absolutely skyrocketing during the end of Congressional sessions. If you can spout all the idiotic rhetoric and platitudes you want and not have to follow through on it, and your constituents don't care ...
EDIT : Wait a sec. What about their bodyguards?
Posted by unkbill on Jan. 11 2011,15:11
What I started to bitch about had nothing to do with politics. It is a way of thinking. I believe it wrong for Palin to put a cross hairs even on a map. I am standing up for what I think is correct. Ms, Palin didn't put a gun to anyones head. But she is irrisponsible. Now it has become polital. Someone when it came out should have drawn the line saying enoug is enough that is to far. It needs to end on both sides.
Who was the famous person who sworn to move from this country if so and so was elected. If people ever elected Paline I could make good on that promise. Sorry but she is piece of shit that fucked up McCains chances of being president, Or was it a calulated move?
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 11 2011,16:05
< Haters gonna hate >
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2011,16:23
< From here >.In particular, this part...
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Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,0001,
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,0001,
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Better not draw any marks involving cars, tobacco, or alcohol, they kill people, too. I saw this one bar marked on Google Maps with a beer and some dude though that he was meant to go there and drink himself to death.
Posted by unkbill on Jan. 11 2011,18:38
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 11 2011,16:05)
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< Haters gonna hate >
I hope no one here has anything against what is said in the link. Everyone has there rights of freedom of speech.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 11 2011,19:51
Got that right.
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 11 2011,20:28
(thibodeaux @ Jan. 11 2011,18:05)
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< Haters gonna hate >
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I hope Sarah Palin dies
In terms of guessing if the action in question is actually a prelude to an actual murder, I fail to see any difference between putting that text on a website and placing crosshairs on someone on a website.
I can't think of a more direct way to imply death other than the black and white words at the top of this post.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 12 2011,04:50
But no, it is the right wing that invented angry, hate-filled rhetoric.That's the point.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 12 2011,06:20
I have no problem with t people expressing themselves. I do, however, have a major problem with their hypocrisy. Not sure how people can blame Palin and say that "the right's hate filled rhetoric" fuels violence like this and then turn around and spew hate filled rhetoric that encourages violence. Meanwhile, they're claiming to be intellectually superior and that they believe in non-violence.
You either have to be bat shit insane or a really stupid individual to think it makes sense to condemn all violence and violent speech while openly asking for someone to die violently.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 12 2011,06:54
(Leisher @ Jan. 12 2011,09:20)
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I have no problem with t people expressing themselves. I do, however, have a major problem with their hypocrisy.
Not sure how people can blame Palin and say that "the right's hate filled rhetoric" fuels violence like this and then turn around and spew hate filled rhetoric that encourages violence. Meanwhile, they're claiming to be intellectually superior and that they believe in non-violence.
You either have to be bat shit insane or a really stupid individual to think it makes sense to condemn all violence and violent speech while openly asking for someone to die violently.
Not sure how people can blame Palin and say that "the right's hate filled rhetoric" fuels violence like this and then turn around and spew hate filled rhetoric that encourages violence. Meanwhile, they're claiming to be intellectually superior and that they believe in non-violence.
You either have to be bat shit insane or a really stupid individual to think it makes sense to condemn all violence and violent speech while openly asking for someone to die violently.
Exactly.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 12 2011,07:06
The fact that you guys are fighting so hard against the accusations just means you know you are guilty of it.
Posted by DoctorChaos on Jan. 12 2011,08:37
(Leisher @ Jan. 12 2011,09:20)
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You either have to be bat shit insane or a really stupid individual to think it makes sense to condemn all violence and violent speech while openly asking for someone to die violently.
You missed one. Stupid bat shit insane.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 12 2011,16:02
< http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote....es.html >QUOTE
BOTTOM LINE: Sarah Palin, once again, has found a way to become part of the story.
MEDIA: Sarah Palin directly and knowingly caused the murders of six innocent human beings.
PALIN: No, I didn't.
MEDIA: Stop making it all about you!!! This is about the people who were shot!!!
Posted by Malcolm on Jan. 12 2011,17:15
I'm damn near getting to the point of thinking anyone that willingly runs for public office must be fucked in the head and thus shouldn't get my vote.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 13 2011,10:29
Now, I'm not 100% sure on this, but the image that Palin had that makes people blame her was a MAP, right? A *map* with little circles-and-crosses superimposed on it?REALLY? Somebody thinks THAT means "go shoot somebody?"
That's really reaching.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 13 2011,10:39
That is the exact "evidence" that was being trotted out before the bodies were even cold. Literally.But this is all about the right being hateful, they tell me.
Posted by Leisher on Jan. 13 2011,10:49
Even though the shooter was "a left wing liberal" according to those who know him...
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 13 2011,12:15
NYT changes text of Obama speech in order to make it look like he blames the right.< http://ace.mu.nu/archives/310683.php >
Well, "those guys" said NYT. I am still trying to find an actual NYT link that shows the change.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 20 2011,15:03
< JFK also killed by climate of hate >
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 20 2011,15:10
Oh, I thought he was killed by a leftie marxist.
Posted by thibodeaux on Jan. 20 2011,15:11
That's the exactly the point that the (left wing) blog post was trying to make. Read it, it's good. And refreshing to see some sanity on the left.
Posted by GORDON on Jan. 20 2011,15:12
Heh, yep, just read it... was thinking of editing my post to reflect "And so does the author."