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GORDON 
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Posted on: Feb. 05 2014,13:08 |
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Thing is, I remember this exact situation 10 or 15 years ago, and a judge then also said it was free speech.
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Posted on: Feb. 07 2014,11:46 |
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Sep. 25 2014,11:16 |
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Cop pummels woman.
QUOTE The CHP has said the officer was trying to keep the woman from walking into traffic. CHP logs state that she ignored commands and became "physically combative."
But Pinnock said in an interview last month that she did nothing to provoke the officer. Pinnock said she was walking to a place to sleep that night when the officer came up behind her. She said that as she then screamed, he "pulled me back and threw me on the ground."
Cops shoots dude during seatbelt stop.
QUOTE Later on the recording, Jones said he was just reaching into his vehicle for his identification after the trooper pulled up without his siren on. What appears to be his wallet can be seen flying through the air as Groubert fires four shots within seconds after confronting Jones.
Groubert's lawyer, Barney Giese, said the shooting was justified because the trooper feared for his life and the safety of others. But prosecutors and Groubert's boss disagreed.
The 31-year-old officer was charged with felony assault and fired less than three weeks after the Sept. 4 traffic stop.
Cops shoves pregnant woman to the ground.
Good to know the standards for law enforcement aren't slipping.
Edited by Malcolm on Sep. 25 2014,11:20
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"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
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"Better dead than smeg."
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Posted on: Sep. 25 2014,14:15 |
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You know how you don't get beat up by the police? Don't break the law.
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Cakedaddy
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Posted on: Sep. 25 2014,15:42 |
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Yep. She was just standing there. Doing nothing. Off to the side bystander. In fact, probably just walking home from church. Cop just went into Hulk rage mode and randomly grabbed her and 'suplexed' her. Totally random. Totally out of the blue. She's minding her own business and BOOM, cop tackle for no reason what so ever. And it was a total purposeful take down. It's not like she was struggling and he was trying to corral her back under control and she tripped and lost her balance or anything. He grabber her in a bear hug, picked her up and slammed her to the ground Hulk Hogan style. Completely controlled take down and everything played out exactly as planned. He took one look at that random person that was in the area and decided "I'm taking her down suplex style".
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Sep. 25 2014,16:40 |
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I'm waiting for you to explain the dude that got shot in the hip.
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"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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I have zero respect or sympathy for any of the cops I've dealt with in the recent past. Â They knowingly went into a job where the description requires them or their compatriots to be dicks to the general population for worthless, retarded "criminal" offenses. Â They don't protect anyone. Â They don't serve anyone. Â Their job is to criminalize as much of the population as they can, so the douchebags who write the laws can look tough on crime, get reelected, and fill the county coffers. Â I might cut them slack if they'd been pressed or conscripted into service.
The nicest consideration I've ever gotten from an officer of the law would be the two times they let me off with a warning for speeding instead of writing a ticket. Â Probably because they had some non-violent drug offenders to harass.
QUOTE To celebrate the pain and/or suffering of someone ... is fucked up.
How about the pain and suffering of the dude that GOT SHOT? He was reaching for his fucking wallet, which is something you do a traffic stop.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Sep. 26 2014,12:49 |
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(TheCatt @ Sep. 26 2014,14:40)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2014,14:33)
QUOTE We'll also ignore the fact they lied on my arrest report. Â Must be nice to have a job where you can lie and not have anything bad happen because of it. Â Can you prove they lied? Â Cuz I'm pretty sure there are repercussions for that.
From what the lawyer says, the number they write down on the arrest report doesn't require any kind of measuring device to be used. Â They have to send it off to a lab to be cataloged because using a fucking scale and reading a number are skills beyond the mental capabilities of the cops in that town. I'm waiting on those numbers. Â Also, as long as the amount is under a magic number, Iowa treats it all as equal. Â A trace amount warrants precisely the same penalty as half a fucking ounce. Â It doesn't matter what fucking number they put down. Â Anarchy didn't even have a digit on his, it just said "less than 1g." Â That's another way of saying, "A quantity so fucking tiny, we're not even going to bother bullshitting a number because the actual scales might not go that low." Â They put down at least triple what I had. Â Mohawk's multiplier was bigger, probably x5-7.
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Diogenes of Sinope:
"It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours."
"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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Cakedaddy
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Posted on: Sep. 26 2014,15:45 |
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 26 2014,15:12)
QUOTE I have zero respect or sympathy for any of the cops I've dealt with in the recent past. Â They knowingly went into a job where the description requires them or their compatriots to be dicks to the general population for worthless, retarded "criminal" offenses. Â They don't protect anyone. Â They don't serve anyone. Â Their job is to criminalize as much of the population as they can, so the douchebags who write the laws can look tough on crime, get reelected, and fill the county coffers. Â I might cut them slack if they'd been pressed or conscripted into service.
The nicest consideration I've ever gotten from an officer of the law would be the two times they let me off with a warning for speeding instead of writing a ticket. Â Probably because they had some non-violent drug offenders to harass.
I dunno. I can only say that I've never broken the law and got caught (except for speeding) and I've never had a bad run in with the police. Should I be mad at them for writing me a ticket? It sucks, but it's my fault. You have nothing but bad experiences with cops. And, you seem to think you should be able to break laws, and the cops should ignore it. Like, having weed that you deem below an amount to care about. You had weed. It's illegal. Now deal with it. Know how to not be mad at the cop for lying about your weed and busting you with it? Don't have it. Don't want to have to go to jail for weed? Change the laws.
I dunno. I was going to say "None of that even deserves a response" because it was so stupid. Such an ignorant summary of a cop. Can't argue when things go that crazy.
The cop that shot the guy. Lets go over that I guess. It's all pretty obvious to me though. The guy was out of his car. Who get's out of their car during a stop? He's out of his car and reaching in for something. Again, who does that? This is a 'walking in a dark alley in Detroit at night waving cash' scenario. No, the cop shouldn't have shot him. And, he's being dealt with. The cop was wrong. Just like the article said. But what the fuck was the victim thinking? Fucking duh. Again, know how you don't get shot by the police? Don't get out of your car during a stop and then reach for shit. Sit in your car with your hands on the wheel and wait for instructions. These guys get shot at every day. We've seen the youtube videos. Of course they are on edge. Of course they have to be cautious. Cut them some fucking slack. But you won't. Because weed is illegal. Fuck the police.
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GORDON
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Posted on: Sep. 26 2014,15:59 |
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(Cakedaddy @ Sep. 26 2014,14:08)
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(Malcolm @ Sep. 25 2014,19:40)
QUOTE I'm waiting for you to explain the dude that got shot in the hip. No you're not. Â You don't wait for an explanation for anything. Â You just jump on the "Fuck the Police" bandwagon because some of them took your weed. Gordon, of course there are bad cops. Â And there are good cops that make bad decisions, both at the detriment of those they are helping, and of themselves. Â But to constantly categorize all police as gangster thugs out to fuck shit up just makes people look stupid. To celebrate the pain and/or suffering of someone, that on another day would be putting their lives on the line for someone, is fucked up.
I don't know how to cut and paste on my phone, but to address your comment to me: I think only a small percentage of cops actively act like thugs, but I think a majority are willing to close ranks around the bad ones on order to not be the "rat.". This makes them all dirty, as far as I am concerned. Agree or disagree?
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Malcolm
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Posted on: Sep. 26 2014,16:07 |
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No precedent for that sort of thing. Certainly doesn't continue in modern times.
Edited by Malcolm on Sep. 26 2014,16:08
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Diogenes of Sinope:
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"Other dogs bite only their enemies, whereas I bite also my friends in order to save them."
Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC, SSC:
"Better dead than smeg."
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GORDON
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Posted on: Sep. 26 2014,16:11 |
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As I said.
I think cops should be held to a higher standard. When they fuck up, criticism should be harsh.
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