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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 31 2008,10:57  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Ouch.

Reset their gamer score to zero, removed all their achievements, and publicly label their accounts as cheaters.

It should be noted that this isn't aimed at in game cheating, but people who have hacked or cheated their accounts to get higher gamer scores or achievements they did actually earn.

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Wow.

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In a separate post, Microsoft said its judgments on whether a player had amassed their score by cheating are final. "The original gamerscore correction will remain permanent without any way to appeal," the company warned.

I sure hope they are right.

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Yeah, that finality thing is the only mar in this action.  If you're hacking your XBox Live stats, you are beyond pity & should be ruthlessly ostracized.  I'm all for that.  But Macroshaft acting like they're the one and only shining beacon of righteousness in this process, yeah, what a fucking shock.

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Yeah, I saw that too and was a bit cautious, but this wasn't the only article I read on the subject. (Why must one read many articles from various sources to get the full story? That's quality journalism!)

Anyway, in the other article, which I would've posted, but lost the link, thus I used the yahoo one...they did say that Microsoft was only going after folks who hacked their profiles, NOT people who "cheated". Although, they do ban people whom they catch cheating.

So I believe that they probably have a smoking gun as I would assume hacking an account stored on their servers is probably pretty easy to catch.
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Yeah, but if they're going to use public ridicule as a weapon, then I should be able to ask for public verification of my cheating.  Otherwise, I'm at their mercy.

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Point, but again, if it's something that can't be refuted due to a "smoking gun", then cool.

If not, then Microsoft is making the wrong move.
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I hate people who cheat in online games.

I hate companies with this "zero tolerance" policy, with no possibility of fixing a wrong.

So I'm torn.

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Again, these folks were hacking their X-Box Live gamer accounts, not cheating in games.

There is already a ban policy in place for in game cheaters.

That's why I tend to think Microsoft has a smoking gun for each peep.
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That's why I tend to think Microsoft has a smoking gun for each peep.

If they could just explain & show me what it was, I'd be 100% on board for this.

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I dont think they care what you think.

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I dont think they care what you think.

Then they'll earn slightly more of my ire than they already got.

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(Malcolm @ Apr. 01 2008,22:46)
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I dont think they care what you think.

Then they'll earn slightly more of my ire than they already got.

Again....

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